Dirty Rush: Ewwww Gross…

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Dirty Rush: Ewwww Gross…"

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Date: February 1, 2026
Episode Focus:
This episode of "Dirty Rush" dives into the unglamorous, often gross realities of sorority life—specifically, the sicknesses and outbreaks that sweep through shared living spaces. Hosts and guests candidly share horror stories about rashes, norovirus, pink eye, athlete’s foot, and more, highlighting the unique challenges of communal college living. The conversation is light, funny, and occasionally unfiltered, aiming to both entertain and commiserate with anyone who’s survived group housing.

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Main Topics & Themes

1. Sickness and Outbreaks in Sorority Houses

• The episode opens with a roundtable of confessions and anecdotes about the kinds of illnesses that spread rapidly in sorority and frat houses.
• Topics range from mysterious, lingering rashes to mass outbreaks of norovirus and pink eye during rush week.
• Discussion includes the emotional impact of being sick away from home and managing health in a communal setting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Black Mold Rash Horror Story

• Guest: Molly

  • Recounts a six-month-long rash that baffled doctors.
  • Symptoms only flared after sleeping at her boyfriend’s frat house, leading to itchy, red, widespread skin irritation ([03:35]).
  • Multiple misdiagnoses until a doctor at home identified black mold as the cause ([05:39]).
  • Quote:

    "It was literally a rash from black mold...nobody else got any sickness or...it was just, like, the way my body reacted." (Molly, [05:44])

  • To cope, Molly had to wear socks on her hands at night and use prescription creams ([06:30]).
  • Upon leaving the environment and detoxing, her symptoms resolved ([07:41]).

• Discussion on Black Mold

  • Daisy and Host discuss how dangerous mold can be, especially in old frat/sorority houses ([07:06]).
  • Daisy shares her own knowledge of mold from Lyme disease treatments ([07:06]).

Norovirus and the Domino Effect

• Guest: Bryn

  • Describes a norovirus outbreak during sorority rush where "all of the sophomores kind of just started dropping like flies" ([14:23]).
  • Impacted about a third of the house, with at least 20 out of 65-70 girls getting sick ([15:52]).
  • Symptoms include severe nausea and fatigue; Bryn's lasted only 12 hours, but recovery took about a week ([16:42]-[16:57]).
  • Quotes:

    "It's like the worst 12 hours of your life." (Bryn, [15:03])
    "It was kind of just where, like, I knew that the girl that was standing next to me originally had gotten sick. So then in my head I was like, oh my God, now I feel sick." (Bryn, [15:29])

• Recruitment Disruption

  • The sickness caused a domino effect, disrupting recruitment as whole practice groups had to sit out ([17:16]).

Pink Eye Epidemic

• Guest: Bryn

  • Reports on a pink eye wave in another sorority, with "probably half the house got pink eye at one point" ([18:46]).
  • Girls tried to hide symptoms with eye drops and still went out; Bryn admits to doing the same ([19:33]).
  • Quote:

    "I had it, and I was like, no, it's fine. Like, I'm just gonna go out. No one will know. And I can, like, back on photos of myself, and it's so obvious and it's so gross." (Bryn, [19:33])

• Practical Advice for Listeners

  • Hosts: "Don't go out with pink eye...Give yourself 24 hours to get better." (Daisy & Bryn, [20:13]-[20:23])

Shower Shoes & “Foot Fungi”

• Producer: Amy

  • Confesses she never wore traditional shower shoes in the sorority house, leading to a persistent plantar wart that lasted into adulthood ([21:47]-[23:41]).
  • Describes grossness and paranoia about spreading warts ([22:52]).
  • Also discusses ongoing athlete’s foot from shared showers—“a breeding ground for, like, a fungus among us” ([24:04]-[24:39]).
  • Quote:

    "For years, I was way too embarrassed to talk about either of these things. Now I'm like, whatever. Athlete's foot. This is the least of my problems." (Amy, [24:40])

• Advice

  • “Ladies, listening. Wear shower shoes.” (Daisy, [24:57])

Other Sorority Ailments

• Hand, foot, and mouth outbreaks; someone even fled their sorority to avoid it ([25:56]).
• Meningitis discussed as one of the scariest illnesses to hit a college house ([25:41], [34:55]).
• Mental health: Anxiety and hypochondria flourished in a group dynamic—half-joking, half-serious advice on the emotional toll ([27:24]-[29:38]).
  • Quote:

    “Mental illnesses...can start around that age.” (Daisy, [27:54])
    “If I was a gambling woman, would say 60% had some kind of anxiety, for sure.” (Amy, [29:11])

Relationship Drama and Healing

• The group reflects on how breakups and emotional drama feel all-consuming in college, but gain perspective with age ([30:02]-[31:20]).
  • Quote:

    “I look back now and I'm like, why did I care about that fool?” (Amy, [30:22])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mold:
  "If you ever hear of black mold, like, literally run." (Molly, [08:26])

• On Communal Living:
  "It's like, for some reason, sophomore year, I just had to be at everything." (Bryn, [20:06])

• Advice:
  "Wear shower shoes." (Amy & Daisy, [24:57], [25:00])

• On Anxiety:
  "The fear would just paralyze." (Daisy, [28:48])
  "Living in the sorority...probably exasperates it...because it's conducive to, like, when you’re anxious, you kind of have support." (Amy, [29:15]-[29:33])

• On Perspective:
  "If I married that guy, it would be..." (Amy, [31:05])

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Important Timestamps

• [03:35] – Molly describes her months-long black mold rash
• [05:39] – Molly learns the cause is black mold
• [07:06] – Discussion on mold and related illnesses
• [14:23] – Bryn details the norovirus outbreak during rush
• [15:52] – Scale of norovirus impact in the house
• [16:42] – Duration and aftereffects of norovirus
• [18:46] – Pink eye outbreak and spreading through houses
• [21:47] – Amy’s shower shoe and plantar wart saga
• [24:04] – Amy’s athlete's foot confessional
• [25:56] – Hand, foot and mouth disease spooks a sorority member
• [27:24] – Mental health and hypochondria in sorority life
• [30:02] – Reflections on the pain of college breakups

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Takeaways & "Eww" Factor Lessons

• Shared living means shared germs—wear shower shoes, keep it clean, and don’t brush off mysterious symptoms.
• Don’t ignore persistent health issues; sometimes, the problem is environmental.
• College health drama isn’t just about colds and hangovers—fungus, anxiety, and heartbreak all thrive in close quarters.
• "What feels like the end of the world at 20 will be a footnote by 30."
• The communal support system in a sorority can be comforting but may unintentionally fuel both anxiety and the spread of illness.

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Episode Tone and Energy

The episode is conversational, candid, open, and humorous about gross and embarrassing experiences, with a strong supportive vibe and a theme of shared survival. The hosts and guests blend laughter with real advice, making this a must-listen for anyone about to enter (or survive) group college living.

Transcript

[Daisy]

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[Gia]

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[Gia]

Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life, with your hosts, me, Gia

[Daisy]

Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush.

[Daisy]

We are talking about the sicknesses, the dirty diseases that start to spread through the house. The worst.

[Bryn]

Yes.

[Daisy]

All right, next we are going to talk to Molly. Hi, Molly.

[Amy]

Hi.

[Daisy]

Hi. I am almost afraid of what you're bringing to us today.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

We're hearing so many, like, crazy, horrible stories.

[Bryn]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

God, what happened to you? Poor Molly.

[Molly]

Yes. So let me tell you. Okay, so my sophomore year, I was sleeping over at my boyfriend at the time's frat house, and I one time woke up, and I was like, oh, my gosh, this is so weird. I have, like, these little spots, and I was, like, itching them, but I didn't really think anything of it. And then I would go back to my sorority house and it'd be fine. And then I remember my friends, like, pointing at me and being like, what is all over, like, your body? Like, you don't look okay. And I was like, I feel fine.

[Bryn]

Whatever.

[Molly]

And then I would end up, you know, sleeping there again. And then these. This rash would just, like, took over my whole body. It was like my face, my whole entire head to toe, and it was extremely itchy, like, unbearably.

[Daisy]

Boyfriend must have been, like, really into you.

[Amy]

Yeah, exactly. He's like, yeah.

[Daisy]

Wow.

[Molly]

What is happening? And so I ended up going to the doctor, and they were like, it's just like, a rash from what you're using, like, your soaps and stuff.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Molly]

Okay. So they were like, switch to, like, a regular one with no scent. I was like, okay. So I did that, and there was no improvement. It was like. Actually, I'll show you guys a photo just for content. Yeah, it was pretty insane. Like, oh, Molly, isn't that crazy?

[Daisy]

Oh, it's crazy.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

How long did you have that before they realized what it was?

[Molly]

Six months. So I literally had that for six months. And it was, like, going to, like, it was spring break, so it was like, swimsuits and.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Molly]

Terrible.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

And all the doctors.

[Molly]

Horrible. Yeah. And all the doctors could do was, like, prescribe me creams and stuff. And nothing worked. And I was like, this is so weird, because when I Was like, when I would be at the sorority house, it was never, like, anything crazy. And then I would go to his. And then I'd wake up, and it's like, just inflamed head to toe.

[Daisy]

Oh. So would it, like, clear up completely and then come back?

[Molly]

No, it wouldn't clear up completely, but it would, like, it would not be, like, as red when I wasn't there. And then. So, yeah, I went for six months with that, and I would literally, like, have to have my roommates, like, cream me up. Like, it was so much stuff. And then it was summer, so I came home, and then I went to the doctor, and they were like. Immediately they were like, oh, this is, like, caused by black mold. And I was like, oh, great. So it was literally a rash from black mold. But for some reason, no one else got any, like, sickness or no one else. Like, it was just, like, the way my body reacted. But I had that first six months, and it was awful. I would have to wear, like, socks on my hands to go to sleep

[Daisy]

because I would literally like, oh, my God, that's horrible.

[Molly]

I know. I know. I should have gone home.

[Daisy]

What is black mold? What is it?

[Molly]

It's like, when I think it's like, those old houses. Like, frat houses.

[Bryn]

Yeah, whatever.

[Molly]

I don't know. Maybe they just, like. I don't think they cleaned anything or who knows? But it was disgusting and.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah, awful. It's, like, really, really bad for you, too. It can, like, it, like, usually frozen, like, walls and stuff, or, like.

[Molly]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

Daisy, you've heard of it. Do you know anyone that ever had it?

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah, well, I. I just know a lot about it because so I have Lyme disease. And so, like, mold can really affect people with Lyme disease. So I just learned about a lot of it. And then it's actually interesting because in college, there was a place I lived in, and it definitely had so much black mold and sticker when I lived there. So I think that was why. And then I did, like, a treatment in Germany for my Lyme disease, and that was like, you had to do a whole entire detox because they were like, if there's any black mold, like, that you've been exposed to. But it's crazy. Totally.

[Molly]

And that's like, I came home, and it honestly, like, got so much better when I was home, but I had to, like, go to so many different doctors and, like, get it.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Molly]

Situated. I'm better now, thank God. But I do not wish that on my worst enemy.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

It was terrible.

[Daisy]

Well, how do you get rid of it? Is it. Is there a medicine for it? Or you just have to, like, stay away from the mold?

[Molly]

Pretty much. Just, like, stay away from it and just, like, eat super clean. And there was just, like. Yeah. Different things that I was putting all over my body, and it was like a full, like, detox. Taking medicines.

[Gia]

Yeah.

[Molly]

But, yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

And have you been good since.

[Molly]

Yeah, I've been completely fine now, thanks.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Okay, good.

[Molly]

Yeah.

[Bryn]

Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

That is crazy. I can't believe. For six months.

[Amy]

Six months.

[Molly]

So stay. Like, if you ever hear of black mold, like, literally run.

[Daisy]

So run. Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Our way. It happens. I feel like, a lot in the dorm rooms, too. I remember at San Diego State, like, one of the dorms, like, had to completely shut down when I was there because they found black mold in it.

[Daisy]

Wow.

[Bryn]

Yeah.

[Molly]

Like, super not safe. But, yeah, I'm alive now. Alive and well.

[Bryn]

Yes.

[Daisy]

You know, we're talking to a lot of girls today, and, like, they got sick. And they weren't just sick for, like, three days. They were sick for a while. And you're in college and trying to manage that is tough. You know, I mean, it's one thing when you have, you know, your parents or whomever, like, looking out for you and. And. But to be just with other girls, it's a lot. A lot of, like. And I'm sure. I don't know if you felt this way. Did you feel at all, like, not ostracized? Because I'm sure these people were your friends.

[Molly]

Totally. I mean, like, everyone's taking photos. It was our spring break, and, like, everyone's in swimsuits. I almost didn't want to go because I'm like, I'm so insecure. Or, like, guys would be like, I remember these guys coming up to me and being like, what's all over your body? Or, like, they would be like, one guy was like, you have bruises and, like, this rash all over your body. And I'm like, oh, no. Like, thank you.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

I know that.

[Daisy]

Right.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Point it out.

[Molly]

Yeah, exactly. So it was terrible. But. And also, like, you know, in college, like, drinking every weekend is definitely inflaming it even more.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Oh, for sure.

[Daisy]

Right?

[Molly]

Not helping.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

So there was probably just like, getting it worse and worse environment you were in.

[Molly]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

Listen, you survived it. That doesn't makes you stronger. So.

[Molly]

Exactly.

[Daisy]

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[Gia]

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[Bryn]

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[Gia]

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[Daisy]

Hi, Bryn.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

We learned a little earlier we talked to another girl about norovirus. Did I say right?

[Bryn]

Norovirus. Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Okay.

[Bryn]

And I.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

You have a story about that too?

[Bryn]

Yes, I do have a story about that.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

So how. When did this happen?

[Bryn]

Um, so this was my junior year of college, and basically the way my sorority was set up. At least we all lived in the house sophomore year.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Okay.

[Bryn]

Um, and so during rush, all of the sophomores kind of just started dropping like flies, just getting really, like, grossly sick. I. I don't know if anyone's ever had norovirus, but it kind of just hits you and it's great.

[Daisy]

Daisy and I are learning a lot about a lot of.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah, we are today.

[Daisy]

Norovirus sounds like one of the worst ones. It sounds.

[Bryn]

Oh, my gosh. It's like the worst 12 hours of your life. I don't know what it's from. I've heard a bunch of different things, like bad food. But it's also just super contagious.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bryn]

And so obviously we're all. It's also like, during rush, so we're, like, welcoming all these pnm, like, potential new members into the sorority. And it's such, like, a small, confined space. It was just. It was.

[Amy]

Oh, my God.

[Bryn]

Psychologically, I just started feeling sick. I don't know if I was. But it was just one of those things where I was like, oh, like, now I'm so nauseous. The girl that I was standing next to, like, she drops and gets It. It was just terrible.

[Daisy]

Well, all while you're standing there, you were feeling it like. Like at the same moment. Wow.

[Bryn]

No, so I would say, like, it was kind of just where, like, I knew that the girl that was standing next to me originally had gotten sick. So then in my head I was like, oh, my God, now I feel sick. But I would say probably 20 people actually had it that were living in the house. And I think the house holds, like, 65 or 70 girls. So that's a third of the people that were living in there. But then also, like, they're sick, but that's where they live. And we're all still just having to be there for the next three or four days, however long last.

[Daisy]

It doesn't last. Well, our other caller said that she had it for like, what, like 72 hours or something? You had said like 11. Maybe it just differ.

[Bryn]

So I got it separately my senior year and I. I had it for like 12 hours, but I didn't feel. I didn't feel normal from it for

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

like a week after.

[Daisy]

Wow.

[Bryn]

I wasn't necessarily sick. I was just super kind of weak and fatigued.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

How did recruitment go that year then?

[Bryn]

Probably not so good. I mean. Yeah, I don't. I don't really remember, but I can imagine it was not. Not the best year because there are

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

a lot of girls out for it then.

[Bryn]

Yeah. And so that's kind of one of the things too, is like, I mean, it's really not that big of a deal, but we were just like, you practice in certain groups, and so, yeah, one girl's out, then that whole group kind of has to be out. So it's like a domino effect of just so many. I don't know. There's a lot of bad stuff.

[Daisy]

A bummer.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah. You know who, like, the first person was to get it?

[Bryn]

I do know who the first person was, and she was kind of pretty close friend, so.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Bryn]

That's why I also kind of was like, oh, I've been around her a lot.

[Molly]

Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Well, at least you said yours lasted like 12 hours, right?

[Bryn]

Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

We talked to a girl today, and hers was like three days.

[Daisy]

Yeah. Can you imagine? She said you couldn't even eat. There was no. Maybe that's why you were also tired for a long time. She said she couldn't get anything down.

[Bryn]

Yeah. And I remember I had it the week before I was graduating, and so there were so many activities and events

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

going on,

[Bryn]

and so people were kind of coming in and out of my house and I was just sleeping on my couch, and, like, drunk girls were coming in and trying to feed me crackers and Pedialy. And I was like, please.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah, I can't.

[Daisy]

Right?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

Awful. Yeah. Is there something else that you got pink eye? Pink.

[Bryn]

There was. So I was in one sorority, and I was very close friends with a lot of girls in another sorority. Yeah. And this was my sophomore year, so I spent a lot of. I probably honestly spent more time at this other sorority than my own at times. And I would say probably half the house got pink eye at one point. It was just one of those things where you couldn't escape it. And then, like, girls were just putting eye drops and trying to, like, hide it and they were going out and.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah, it was.

[Bryn]

It was not. It was not a good situation.

[Daisy]

Yuck. Yuck.

[Bryn]

I know.

[Daisy]

Like, seriously, Daisy and I have, like, the heebie jeebies over here, and it's. It's not from you.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

It's just, like, I have.

[Bryn]

I have the heebie jeebies for myself. Like, I look back and it wasn't even that long ago, and just, like, thinking about the things that I did and was okay with, like, I. I had it, and I was. I was like, no, it's fine. Like, I'm just gonna go out. No one will know. And I can, like, back on photos of myself, and it's so obvious and it's so gross. And I just wish I, like. Because now I don't. I could stay in if I don't feel or whatever, but for some reason, sophomore year, I just had to be at everything.

[Daisy]

Right.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah. It's just like the college life that everyone.

[Bryn]

Exactly.

[Daisy]

Oh, my God. So advice for our listeners would be don't go out with pink eye. Yeah.

[Bryn]

Give yourself 24 hours to get better.

[Daisy]

Right.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah. Even though you really want to go out.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Molly]

Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Well, thank you so much for coming on, Bryn.

[Daisy]

All right, guys. So now our producer is joining us with her Horror story. Hello, Ms. Amy.

[Amy]

Hi, you guys. Well, mine is not so bad, Right? I was thinking back. I don't remember norovirus. Like, I don't remember even ever vomiting when I was at Kappa.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah, we have heard some crazy stories today.

[Amy]

I don't. I don't remember catching a cold. Like, I don't remember any of that. Like, even between us girls. Like, I don't even remember, like, having diarrhea or something like that, because you

[Daisy]

don't have the least for diarrhea. You have no idea what we've been through.

[Amy]

Yeah, I bet. But I will tell you guys about two things that are the gift that keep on giving, because they are still giving today. So you know how everyone wore shower shoes? Do you guys. Shower shoes?

[Daisy]

Sure.

[Amy]

So I wasn't, like, a huge fan of shower shoes because looking back on it now, I could have just done, like, flip flops, but everyone was wearing those blue Adidas with the white stripes kind of as their shower shoes.

[Molly]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I was like, this is just getting soggy. And they kind of have, like. It's not fabric, but they're sort of like a little material where they weren't all.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah, it's almost, like, foamy, right?

[Amy]

Yes. And it would just be soggy and soppy. And I just was like, my feet. I'm very, like, particular about, like. I really like the process of, like, scrubbing my feet. Right. Well, let me tell you what happened. So all my years at Kappa, I'd never wore shower shoes. And right around the time I was graduating, I noticed this tiny, tiny white dot on the bottom of my foot. And it was pretty small, like, maybe the size of, like, an eraser head. So I'm like, is that a wart? Like, what is that? Right? Yeah, but, I mean, you're, like, young, so I just kind of was like, whatever, and would just sort of ignore it. Time went on. And this thing, I think I even went to get it, like, frozen off, and it came back to the size of seven erasers, maybe ten. It looked like.

[Daisy]

On your foot.

[Amy]

On the bottom of my foot. It looks like. It just looked like cauliflower. No, I could walk fine. I could do everything fine. But it was so gross. And then I was sort of paranoid because, you know, like, you can spread warts to yourself. So, like, say you, like, I don't know, touch that gross thing on your foot, and then you touch it could get on your hand. So I just was like, oh, my God. And all of a sudden, this is 10 years later. So now I'm, like, in my 30s, and this thing is still there. And I was now, like, I gotta figure out how to get rid of this.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

It's still there.

[Amy]

No, now I'm 50 now, Daisy. No, but thank you for thinking I was 30. My God. No. Finally, after trying all these different things, I finally got lucky and found some sort of droppy thing, and it finally went away, so.

[Daisy]

Oh, my God.

[Amy]

My first step.

[Daisy]

Well, listen, it's gross, but we were talking about genital herpes. I mean, and that does not. Not. That's a gift that keeps on giving, too.

[Amy]

It really does. But that seems like something that didn't spread within the sorority.

[Daisy]

Well, the mouth herpes did, though, right? Right.

[Bryn]

Daisy

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

did. Wow.

[Amy]

Okay. So then the other one I think that I got from Kappa, or from, like, having to share a shower with my brother when I was a kid. Athlete's foot. Mine are all surrounding feet. I think the showers at Kappa were, like, a breeding ground for, like, a fungus among us type of thing.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Oh, definitely.

[Amy]

Now, if I go near any kind of athlete's foot anything, immediately I have it.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

You'll get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Daisy]

Is it a. Is it a mole? It's like a mold, right?

[Amy]

Yeah, it's just like, a fungus. It's a fungus.

[Daisy]

Yeah. Kind of had it, for sure.

[Amy]

Yeah. It's disgusting. So these are my two gross things. And I'm telling you, for years, I was way too embarrassed to talk about either of these things. Now I'm like, whatever. Athlete's foot. This is the least of my problems. But, yeah,

[Daisy]

Ladies, listening. Wear shower shoes.

[Amy]

Literally. Or, you know, those things. Like, you know, I don't know what they're called, but they're almost like water socks. They are like, you flip them around your feet. They're like socks practically, but they sort of have soles. You don't ever wear those, like, if you're going in the ocean. Water shoes.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

I think they're called water shoes. I mean. Yeah, I know.

[Daisy]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Amy]

I feel like you can wear those now.

[Daisy]

They're just like, my pets.

[Amy]

But you would have to be such a good balancer because it's like, you still gotta, like, scrub your feet.

[Daisy]

Oh.

[Amy]

So you have to, like, stand on one leg, scrub your foot, put it down. I don't know. Wait, what else do people have? This is like. Was it.

[Daisy]

Oh, God.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Well, yeah, I had meningitis.

[Amy]

What about hand, foot and mouth? That one's going around bad.

[Daisy]

Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

We talked about the neurovirus.

[Daisy]

Sounded the worst. That was like.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Amy]

No, someone I know fled their sorority this week. I won't name who, but I got a call, and they're like, I'm fleeing because there was hand, foot and mouth.

[Daisy]

Smart, it sounds like. That's probably smart.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I don't think I ever threw up all of Colin.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Oh, I grew up.

[Daisy]

Wow, that's. That's something to be said for that.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

That's a miracle.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Even from, like. Even.

[Amy]

Not from getting sick.

[Daisy]

Right.

[Amy]

Even from what? I never had any alcohol in my life, so I never had that.

[Daisy]

Oh, wait, I'm sorry. One more time. I just missed that whole thing. What did you just say?

[Amy]

I've never had a sip of alcohol. I've never had a cigarette. I've never smoked coffee. I mean, smoked coffee. I've never had coffee. I've never smoked a cigarette. I've never done drugs. Nothing.

[Daisy]

Amy.

[Amy]

I know.

[Daisy]

Maybe because I always think of you in Kappa and, like, sorority girl.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Really think that you would be, like, hazed, but no, nothing.

[Daisy]

Wow.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Not even, like, a glass of wine?

[Amy]

Nothing. No, no. I smelled. Just for me. It's.

[Bryn]

I.

[Amy]

It feels like I'm drinking nail polish remover. I, like, smelled it. I'm like, oh, my God. How do people drink that? And one time. One time, I was getting, like, a cranberry juice, and the bartender accidentally put vodka in it. It burned my throat out. I don't know how you guys drink that.

[Daisy]

Wow.

[Amy]

Literally, I felt like I swallowed fire.

[Daisy]

I don't know. Wow.

[Amy]

What else about you guys?

[Daisy]

Also good.

[Amy]

Did you guys have diarrhea?

[Daisy]

No. I was a hypochondriac. Like, I was so nervous all the time. Like, I would get. If I had a headache in my mind still to. If I have a headache, it's a tumor. If, you know, it's like, I have. And if people around me are getting sick, like, I don't even like to hear about sometimes the symptoms of things, but I was so, like, almost paralyzed with, like, hypochondria. And sometimes those things, like, you know, mental illnesses, they can start around that age.

[Amy]

Like, in your 20s, I learned I had anxiety. I definitely had a doctor, like, tell me I had to breathe into a brown paper bag. Yeah.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

That was when I first did that. And my friend, my Kappa roommate, was like, remember the bag? Like, I would just get this, like, lunch sack and just, like, breathe and.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Like, like the 90s version of meditation.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Do you get tons of anxiety when you see on People magazine those, like, clickbait, like, this lady died from eating crab?

[Daisy]

Yes, I do. I get really. I. And. But it used to be it was different because, you know, in my 20s, like, you, nobody was really prescribing anything. I mean, I had it. It was. It was very difficult and then got a little older. And I was introduced to Prozac, and, you know, now and then I could. Because I used to really, like. It would paralyze me. The fear would just paralyze.

[Amy]

Yeah, I get that.

[Daisy]

Yeah. So I think. I think it's. Maybe we'll do an episode about that. But, like, when? Because a lot of stuff, mental Stuff

[Amy]

hits saying that because I'm thinking about the sorority. Right. And say there was, like, I don't know, a hundred girls that live there. I would, if I was a gambling woman, would say 60, had some kind of anxiety, for sure.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

And I feel like college just, like, amplifies that too.

[Daisy]

Yes.

[Amy]

And I don't know if living in the sorority eases it in some ways, but probably exasperates it. Sorry for my good SAT word. Exasperated also.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because it's conducive to, like, when you're anxious, you kind of have support.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I think all that is just sort of, like, breeds some anxiety.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

For sure.

[Daisy]

Even, you know, to be surrounded by people. But it feels very alienating. And I would think, like, you know, I had it. I did have it at that age. And I'm trying to remember in living in the sorority house and feeling like a crazy person.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

So. Yeah.

[Daisy]

You know, maybe being able to share it as much as, you know, I'd like to, but I used to remember

[Amy]

crying over boys then. And literally, for me to cry over a boy now, wow. It would have to be extreme. Like, I feel like 20s. Like, a boy is sort of mean to you or dumps you, and you just cry for weeks.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Oh, for sure. It's just, like, so much more amplified. I feel, like, totally.

[Amy]

I look back now and I'm like, why did I care about that fool?

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

So you're talking with Emma because Emma had my daughter on the. On. On one of the last episodes.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

Boyfriend. They just broke up. They were together for a year. I mean, I. I. I can't seem to, like, get her to snap out of it. It's just horrible.

[Amy]

And this is the thing. You tell her. This is gonna not bother you. You will not remember this until you.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I look back and I'm like, what was that dude's name? I cried over that guy for a month.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And I'm like. Or I see him now at a Cal game, and I'm like, what, loser? I'm just like, oh, brutal. You know, like, right.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

I do say that to her.

[Amy]

Like, that's a whole. That's definitely a thing we need to do an episode on. Because when you're in it, you're like, it's so dramatic. And now looking back, I'm like, oh, my God, if I married that guy, it would be.

[Daisy]

I. Yeah. Well, the whole year she went out with him, I was like, you cannot marry him. But it hasn't. It's. And she knew she wasn't Going to end up with him. But it's still. She's crushed.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Oh, I want to help her. And the problem is nothing you say helps.

[Daisy]

I know. Believe me.

[Amy]

Everything. Look at Daisy. She had her guy, they broke up, and now they're getting married.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Daisy]

When you guys broke up and then got back together.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah, we dated in college for, like, a little bit. And then we

[Amy]

went on this little show called the Bachelor.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

She just needs to go on the vest.

[Daisy]

Yeah. You know something? She would. She'd probably love it.

[Bryn]

How do you go?

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

I had so much fun. I had, like, the time of my life. It was such a good experience for me.

[Daisy]

I think Rachel would love it.

[Amy]

I have a question for Daisy.

[Bryn]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Give me a comparison. Sorority. How similar is it to living in the mansion with all the girls?

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Honestly, I will say it was, like, the most thing, like, closest probably to a sorority that I've been like.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

And just because even, like, the whole time you're talking to girls, like, it felt like recruitment because you're, like, asking them questions, trying to get to know them, trying to catch people's vibes and then.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

And it's even crazy because, like, I remember in college, if there was, like, a guy and then, like, a few girls would be into him and they would want him, like, even more exactly what it was. It was just, like, them putting a guy in the situation, and then if someone wanted him, then, like, the other girl wanted him too. It was like, who was your dude?

[Amy]

Your guy again? I don't know why it slipped my mind. No. Who's your guy on my.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

On the season I was on?

[Amy]

Yeah. Oh, it was Joey, actually.

[Bryn]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I'm gonna say Joey's pretty. He's a catch. So I get why all the girls were freaking out, but, yeah, Bachelors, where I'm like, why are they fighting over this guy?

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah.

[Amy]

They're all crying over this. Absolute.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

Yeah. I'm excited to watch this next, like, season to see how it works out with.

[Amy]

Totally. I think it's going to be kind of iconic. But anyway, back to the diarrhea.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

You know what? I don't ever recall getting food poisoning. So tip of the hat to our chef. I don't ever remember that.

[Daisy]

Yeah, yeah. One of the girls that we're talking to said that when she got neurovirus that she thought it was food poisoning because their chef was known for undercooking chicken. Ew, Michael, how many times does a chef have to undercook the chicken before you say it? Bye. Bye.

[Amy]

No, I Just got the planner's work gift. No, I look back at the things I could eat, too. Like, I could just go to Blondie's Pizza, get the greasiest. I mean, I'm telling you, if you put a napkin on top of it, it would sop up so much. And I could just eat that and go on with my day. Like, I'd had just.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

A fruit smoothie. Like, I was just cruising. I don't know. I missed that the most.

[Daisy]

Yeah.

[Amy]

But anyway, I love diarrhea talk.

[Daisy]

Me, too. So fun.

[Amy]

Good stuff. May we all wash our hands? May we all just wash our hands.

[Daisy]

There's a lesson for you girls. All right, guys, that was fun. Ish. It was fun. I guess. I mean, lots of memories. Daisy, I think you probably. Meningitis. If I had to pick one, that would not be the one I would pick. I would not want any of these, but I feel like that would be the scariest.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

I also think, like, Herbie's having to live with that.

[Daisy]

Yes. Also, that would also suck. Any of them would suck. It's degrees of suckiness.

[Bryn]

But. Yeah.

[Daisy]

Yeah, but listen, listeners, we're glad that we could share all this with you, educate you all. Yes. Use. Use protection and wear shower shoes.

[Bryn]

Yes.

[Daisy]

Thanks for listening, guys.

[Host (Jill Interestein)]

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