Dirty Rush: Frat Pack

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod – "Dirty Rush: Frat Pack"

Date: November 23, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode Theme:
An honest, funny, and insight-packed discussion on the realities and myths of Greek (sorority and fraternity) life, contrasting pop culture depictions with real-life experiences. The panel reviews famous movies and shows about Greek life and fact-checks various stereotypes, rituals, and traditions.

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Main Themes and Purpose

The episode focuses on dissecting the myths and realities of Greek life, especially how sororities and fraternities are portrayed in pop culture through movies like House Bunny, Revenge of the Nerds, and TV shows like Greek. Joining Teddi and Tamra are Gia, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler, who share their own Greek life experiences, clarify common misconceptions, and react to the absurdities depicted on screen.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pop Culture vs. Reality: Nudity and Sorority Stereotypes

• The conversation opens with a look at the infamous naked and risqué sorority scenes in movies like House Bunny and references to other films such as Mean Girls, emphasizing how these scenes are exaggerated for male viewership.
  • [03:33] Jennifer: "Anna Faris does a nude scene in this and she completely surprised her cast. So those were like, their genuine, raw reactions. But I feel like in the movies they portray that sorority girls are naked and just like playing naked all the time."
  • [04:11] Daisy: "I doubt very seriously you were ever your sorority sisters in one of your bedrooms, topless, having a pillow fight. No, that's probably right. I'm thinking that's probably more of a movie thing."
  • [04:37] Jennifer: "I feel like that might have been to kind of get the male viewers for maybe some movie or TV shows."

2. Fraternity and Sorority Rivalries

• Frat and sorority rivalries are common in movies, but the hosts discuss how competitions are often more about events than serious feuds.
  • [06:21] Gia: "Ours was like Alpha Fee. A guy own PI Fi were, like, always, like, trying to get the pre parties with the frats. Like, we were always, like, trying to have, like, the better events, kind of. It was almost like a competition."
  • [06:49] Daisy: "But the good news is, in Revenge of the Nerds, the nerds win. I always like when the nerds win."

3. Accuracy of Greek Organization Names in TV/Film

• Movie/TV names for Greek houses are intentionally wacky, with combinations of Greek letters that do not match actual chapters.
  • [07:19] Daisy: "Names they use for frats and this and the sorority, like, Delta in Animal House. ... Alpha Mew. Like, nobody wants to be in that."
  • [07:34] Jennifer: "Funny how they take all the random Greek letters and compile names, not trying to be like, the actual established sororities."

4. Fact-Checking TV's 'Greek'

• Producer Heather jumps in to discuss the TV show Greek, prompting more "does this actually happen?" questions.
  • Rush Attire:
    • [10:59] Jennifer: "When they're going to rush, all the guys are wearing collared shirts and neckties. Like when they're going just to meet the houses."
    • [11:04] Gia: "I think they only had to dress up in suits maybe when they were like initiate... but I don't think for actual recruitment."
  • Southern Sorority Attire:
    • [15:35] Daisy: "That's the South. That's how it was."
    • [15:42] Gia: "We definitely had to look nice and like wear dresses and stuff."
  • Rush Training and Skits:
    • [16:40] Jennifer: "They open up the episode with the Zeta Beta Zetas doing a skit. ... Would you guys do skits?"
    • [16:51] Daisy: "Yes."
    • [17:01] Gia: "Oh, yeah. We went through a whole training."
  • Bar & Fake IDs:
    • [17:04] Jennifer: "President goes, 'Anyone with an id, real or fake?'"
    • [17:19] Gia: "Oh, that definitely did not fly in my sorority. Hell no."

5. Sorority and Fraternity House Rules & Security

• Addressing TV tropes about house security and boys entering sorority houses.
  • [19:14] Daisy: (On having a security guard) "No."
  • [19:19] Gia: "Inaccurate."

6. Legacies, Privileges, and Myths

• Discussion on whether being a "legacy" (having family in a chapter) guarantees acceptance and if special privileges (like private rooms or vacation access) exist.
  • [19:44] Gia: "If you're really following the rules, if you're a legacy and you have your mother or your sister... you do have legacy to then be in that sorority. ... But most of the time, if a family member is in that sorority, you should have legacy."
  • [20:20] Daisy: "Now at UT does not really matter. ... There's so much competition now. And so I don't think legacy carries you like it used to."
  • [21:33] Daisy: "My daughter did get her own room in the sorority house because she has type 1 diabetes. ... But I never heard of that otherwise."

7. Photos and Rush Documentation

• Fact-checking the practice of fraternities taking photos during rush to remember people.
  • [26:30] Daisy: "No, I don't remember that. ... There was a professional photographer at all of the parties... That was the only way to document this stuff."

8. Paddles, Hazing, and Pledges

• The history and myth of wooden paddles, real hazing stories, and the truth behind pledge nicknames.
  • [27:08] Jennifer: (On paddles) "First of all, what are those wooden paddles for?"
  • [27:51] Daisy: "The principal used to have a wooden paddle on the wall, and if you got in trouble, you'd have to go to the principal's office... paddles were for smacking your ass if you were bad... Now they're just used to decorate and put cute stickers on and give to your little."
• The panel confirms that "pledge" is a common nickname used in Greek life.
  • [29:41] Gia: "You're called the pledges, especially in the fraternities. The freshman guys are called padres."
• Hazing traditions:
  • [30:31] Gia: "I would say public embarrassment. ... the frat guys will do whatever they want to."
  • [30:54] Gia: "...they would do the naked Mile around campus."
  • [31:03] Daisy: "Yeah. Yes. They did that back in my day."

9. Closing Reflections

• The group reminisces on Greek-focused TV shows and movies, recommending Greek and Animal House for binge-watching.
  • [32:06] Jennifer: "All the episodes are available on Hulu. The show was originally on ABC Family, which is now Freeform... It is so cute and fun. ... I highly recommend to anybody."
  • [32:10] Daisy: "Love that. Okay, I'm gonna say to my family, guys, sorry I can't hang out over. I'll be watching Rusty in Greek. They'll be like, you need to get a life."
  • [32:57] Gia: "If I recognize any, any music, I'll. I'll text you and let you know."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On movie stereotypes:
  “I doubt very seriously you were ever your sorority sisters in one of your bedrooms, topless, having a pillow fight. ... That's probably more of a movie thing.”
  — Daisy Kent, [04:11]

• On traditions:
  “There was a professional photographer at all of the parties... That was the only way to document this stuff.”
  — Daisy Kent, [26:30]

• On legacies:
  "If you're a legacy ... you do have legacy. ... But most of the time, if a family member is in that sorority, you should have legacy. Do I think you should ever go into recruitment with that mentality? Probably not, but that is a thing."
  — Gia, [19:44]

• On hazing then vs. now:
  "They would do the naked Mile around campus."
  — Gia, [30:54]
  "Yeah. Yes. They did that back in my day."
  — Daisy Kent, [31:03]
  “Thank God it’s a different day.”
  — Daisy Kent, [31:33]

• On sorority priorities:
  “We'll give you whatever you want.” “I want my own room.” “Done.”
  — Sorority dialogue relayed by Jennifer, [21:06]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Opening banter & introduction: [03:05–03:33]
• Sorority/Frat Stereotypes in Pop Culture: [03:33–06:49]
• Greek Life Rivalries (reality vs. media): [06:50–07:34]
• TV's Greek: Mythbusting: [08:13–20:43]
• Rush traditions and attire: [15:18–16:29]
• Realities of fake IDs & underage drinking: [17:04–18:31]
• Private rooms & legacy privileges: [19:44–21:48]
• Hazing, paddles, pledge treatment: [27:08–31:13]
• Closing thoughts and recommendations: [32:06–33:14]

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Tone and Style

The episode is spirited, honest, frequently humorous, and blends personal anecdotes with pop culture analysis. No question is too embarrassing, and the panel is candid about how things have changed over the decades as well as what remains unchanged.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a fun and sometimes nostalgic look at Greek life, separating cinematic fiction from fraternity and sorority fact. With stories from multiple generations, Two Ts In A Pod provides an engaging fact-check on the Greek system—spilling what’s dated, what’s still practiced, and what’s just plain myth. If you’ve ever wondered just how true those wild Greek life stories really are, this episode delivers the inside scoop.

Transcript

[Daisy Kent]

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[Gia]

Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life with your hosts, me, Gia.

[Daisy Kent]

Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.

[Gia]

Hey, guys, it is Gia, Jen and Daisy and we are back discussing the reality of sorority life and what is shown on TV and movies. So let's dive back in because there's lots more to talk about in House.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Bunny to kind of circle back to appearance. Anna Faris does a nude scene in this and she completely surprised her cast. So those were like, their genuine, raw reactions. But I feel like in the movies they portray that sorority girls are naked and just like playing naked all the time.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah.

[Gia]

And it's kind of true, but yeah, I mean, and I know this has not. This movie isn't exactly sorority. It was them in high school. But mean girls, like the. The Halloween costumes and the slutty costumes and.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah.

[Gia]

Just literally wearing no clothes.

[Daisy Kent]

Like. Yeah, you guys have to see the scene in Animal Hat. Well, you don't have to. It's probably not a great. But the girls are literally like. They're all like, topless. And for whatever reason, I don't. I doubt very seriously you were ever your sorority sisters in one of your bedrooms, topless, having a pillow fight. No, that's probably right. I'm thinking that's probably more of a movie thing.

[Gia]

That was probably not at the top of my bingo card, honestly.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Yeah, no, I feel like that might have been to kind of get the male viewers for maybe some movie or TV shows.

[Daisy Kent]

Right, right. I like they did it also. I mean, did you guys ever see Revenge of the Nerds? No, I can't with this. I can't. One of these things. Emma, you have seen it.

[Jennifer Kessler]

I haven't, but talk about it.

[Daisy Kent]

Oh, God. One of these things is not like the other, and it is me. So. Revenge of the Nerds is such a funny movie, you guys, and it's just about a frat House with the nerdiest of the nerdy. But you, like, root for them because they're such sweet guys and they're, like, terrorized by the other frats on campus. Like, I don't know if that happened with you guys, if, like, certain houses would be, you know, sort of, like, gang up on the nerdier house. I don't know, but this was like, that.

[Gia]

Is it kind of like House Bunny?

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, from what I know about house bunny. Yeah, I think so.

[Gia]

The nerds, you root for.

[Daisy Kent]

You totally root for the nerd. It's called Revenge of the Nerds. And then they get their revenge on the asshol frat bro. You know, houses is a frat bro. I always use that expression. Is that like somebody who's already graduated? No. But still, like, lives to be in a frat, or is that. Is that expression you guys use?

[Gia]

I don't think it's like, someone that's, like, graduated. I feel like it's very standard. Like, you're just like, a frat bro.

[Daisy Kent]

You're still like a frat bro. Yeah. Like a finance bro or something. But anyway.

[Gia]

Yeah, but it was like, finance bro is better.

[Daisy Kent]

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if you guys had that, though, where there were, like, frats or even sorties that were real rivals. Like, did you guys have in your sororities, like, a specific house that you just.

[Gia]

Yeah, I would say, like, ours was like. Well, it wasn't like, rivals, but it was like Alpha Fee. A guy own PI Fi were, like, always, like, trying to get the pre parties with the frats. Like, we were always, like. Like, trying to have, like, the better events, kind of. It was almost like a. Yeah.

[Daisy Kent]

Like, competition. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. But the good news is, in Revenge of the Nerds, the nerds win. I always like when the nerds win.

[Gia]

Yes.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Also in Revenge of the Nerds, didn't they release a pig?

[Daisy Kent]

Yep. Somewhere. I don't remember. Wait, Emma, when I'm trying to remember that scene.

[Gia]

They were trying to impress the Lambda people to get, like, accepted as a fraternity, and they did a party with the Omega Moos.

[Jennifer Kessler]

The alphabeta sent in a bunch of.

[Gia]

Pigs and said, thought you could use some more pigs for your party. Because the sorority were, like, bigger girls. They weren't like, you know, the hot, cute girls.

[Daisy Kent]

Right, Right.

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[Daisy Kent]

So funny in these movies, like, the names they use for the frats and this and the sorority, like, Delta in Animal House. Like, just there, I guess. I don't know. They're so. And like, Alpha Mew. Like, nobody wants to be in that. Yeah.

[Jennifer Kessler]

It is kind of funny how they take all the random Greek letters and compile names, not trying to be like, the actual established sororities and fraternities.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Kessler]

My sister at home is currently in Mama, Papa, sister.

[Daisy Kent]

What does that mean?

[Jennifer Kessler]

Mom, dad, sister.

[Daisy Kent]

That's her sister now because she's call it that. That's so cute.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Mama, papa, Sister. My dad calls it that.

[Daisy Kent]

That's adorable. Like, what was recent Delta and you.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Said, like, new, like, the way she said it.

[Daisy Kent]

Yes. It was so, like, obnoxious.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Yeah.

[Daisy Kent]

Okay. In terms of, like, funny names for movies. And I know that our producer Heather has one that she wants to tell us about. Hi, Heather.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Hi, guys. So, first and foremost, I'm not from the Greek life. So I actually have so many questions about this on terms of if this is real. Is this just for the TV show? So I was obsessed with the TV show Greek Gia. Have you ever heard of it or seen it? I know Jen hasn't, but have you?

[Daisy Kent]

No.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay.

[Daisy Kent]

No, this is critical.

[Jennifer Kessler]

So it came out when I was in college and like I said, never been in the Greek life, but I was obsessed with this show and I thought it was so cute. So it takes place at this college called Cypress Rhodes. And it's all from the story point of freshman nerdy Rusty, who is now joining college, and his older sister Casey is already established at this school. She is part of the Zeta Beta Zetas, and she's on her way to being the president of her sorority. Like, that is like her end all, be all, goal. And so when Rusty joins the college, he's like, I'm going to pledge a fraternity. And she literally tells him in the first one, in the first episode, she says, no, frat guys are hot and have upper bodies.

[Daisy Kent]

That's not nice. Poor Rusty.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Horrible, right? So basically, the main. The three main Greek houses that are featured on this show is the Zeta Beta Zetas. They are the top sorority. And then there is the Omega Kai's, which is the top frat. And so Casey's boyfriend is the president of the Omega Kai's, of course.

[Daisy Kent]

Right.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Then on the opposite end is like their version of Animal House, which is the capitals. And that house, the president is named Cappy. That's his nickname. And they're the Wild Bunch, but that's Casey's ex boyfriend. So her current boyfriend's the president of the top frat and her ex boyfriend is the president of the party frat. So love triangle ensues. Right? And so in the first episode, Rusty is like, you know, he meets the Omega Kai's and what I thought was really funny. Okay, you tell me this. When they're going to rush, all the guys are wearing collared shirts and neckties. Like when they're going just to meet the houses.

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[Gia]

I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

[Daisy Kent]

I mean for me it was so long ago, but I don't remember that.

[Gia]

Like if they had to. I think they only had to dress up in suits. Maybe when they were like initiate.

[Daisy Kent]

No.

[Gia]

Yeah, maybe when they were initiated or when they got into the frat. But I don't think for actual like frat, like like for recruitment for the fraternities that they had to like dress like fancy.

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[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay, so there's that. And then they're also showing the Zeta Beta Zetas as they're doing their Rush thing. And all the girls that come to Rush are, are wearing pearls cardigans like, like they're going to tea with their grandma.

[Daisy Kent]

You guys, that's the South. That's how it was.

[Gia]

Yeah, I feel like in the south, like.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay, so in the south, that's how they do it.

[Gia]

Yeah, I mean, I think so. I mean for us, we didn't look like, we didn't look bad. Like we definitely had to put ourselves together, like wear dresses and stuff like that. We weren't wearing pearls in jersey, but I mean we definitely had to look nice and like wear dresses and stuff.

[Daisy Kent]

You guys, you should see my composite picture. I have to show it to you. So literally every girl had a strand of pearls, and basically it's white lace that just kind of. And every single girl. And then, because it was me, so I had all that going on. My face was this big, and my hair was even bigger. Right. It was like I was very heavy with very big, frizzy, curly hair. But I was in the south, so I had the string of pearls and the white lace. It was so proper.

[Jennifer Kessler]

So check for the accuracy on that. That seems like it is accurate. Okay. So one of the other things is they open up the episode with the Zeta Beta Zetas doing a skit.

[Daisy Kent]

Yes.

[Jennifer Kessler]

For the other sisters, like, showing them how to not act with a rushy. Like, when you're getting to know them, like, they do a whole skit. So would you guys do skits?

[Daisy Kent]

Yes.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Yeah.

[Gia]

I mean, it's, like, training, for sure.

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[Gia]

It wasn't like, for the other sororities.

[Jennifer Kessler]

But it was just for the sisters in the house.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah.

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[Gia]

Oh, yeah. We went through a whole training.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay. And then literally the skit is over, and the president goes. Hey, girls. She goes, meet you at the bar in an hour. Anyone with an id Real or fake?

[Gia]

Oh, that definitely did not fly in my sorority. Hell no.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Your president saying, real or fake.

[Gia]

Oh, my God.

[Daisy Kent]

If.

[Gia]

If we went to. There was this bar at Rutgers called Queens, and it was known, like, you could only go to that bar when you were 21. But also, a lot of the sorority girls from my sorority gamma from G5, they would work there. So. And when it came to, like, the underage sorority sisters trying to get into the bars, they were, like, monitoring like clockwork, like. And all the sororities would kind of team up and look out for the other sororities if one of their members tried to come in underage. That was a big no. No. Like, wow.

[Daisy Kent]

That is the opposite.

[Gia]

Go to Queens if you were under 21.

[Daisy Kent]

So back in the day, the older sorority sisters were giving their licenses to the younger Sorori to use. It was like, who has dark hair? Who is. You know, it was like. And no, there was none of that. And, I mean, it just didn't exist. Underage drinking. Like, is there an age for drinking? We just. It wasn't really a consideration back in the day.

[Jennifer Kessler]

That's a half accurate then, in Jennifer, in Jen's terms.

[Daisy Kent]

Yes. Okay.

[Jennifer Kessler]

So then at one point in the episode, Rusty, he's, like, really confused on how to navigate this Greek life thing, so he shows up to the ZBZ house to, like, Try to get his sister's attention and her advice. And he just walks into the house and, like, walks upstairs. And all of a sudden these girls are like, boy in the house. And they start screaming. And then all the girls, like, on that floor run out. But he looks downstairs, and a security guard circles the stairs and starts running up after him. Did you guys ever have a security guard working at your house?

[Daisy Kent]

No.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay. Didn't think so. So inaccurate for that one.

[Gia]

Inaccurate.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay. So then when they're. When going back to the guys are on getting to know all the houses, One of the guys in the process says he's a legacy at this house, so he feels like he doesn't have a whole lot of pressure to, like, impress this house when he gets there. Is that really the case for a legacy member?

[Gia]

I mean, yeah, if you're really following the rules, if you're a legacy and you have your mother or your sister, cousin, it gets a little tricky. But, like, especially your mother or your sister were in that sorority, you do have legacy to then be in that sorority. Sometimes, you know, during the process, things do get mixed up, and maybe you don't make the cut. And that's always a big what to do if that happens. But most of the time, if a family member is in that sorority, you should have legacy. Do I think you should ever go into recruitment with that mentality? Probably not, but that is a thing.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah, it was a thing for us. But now I have heard since I've kind of reconnected with sorority sisters. But now at UT does not really matter. Can't. Doesn't. Maybe it helps a little. But there are so many girls trying to get into, like, the same sorority. There's so much competition now. And so I don't think legacy carries you like it used to.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay. At one point in the process, the top sorority is really trying to get this girl who is a senator's daughter. They really want her because of the prestige and money that it will bring to the house. I don't know if that sounds accurate, but when they're offering her a bid, basically the. The sorority sister says, we'll give you whatever you want. And she says, I want my own room. And then she goes, done. And she goes, and I want access to family vacation homes. So another question. Would a freshman ever get her own room in the sorority house? And do you ever have access to other members vacation homes, family vacation homes?

[Daisy Kent]

Definitely never heard of that. Although my daughter did get her own room in the sorority house because she has type 1 diabetes. So we kind of pull wherever we can. We try to pull the diabetes card. It's all it's because diabetes sucks, but we try to use it when we can.

[Gia]

I mean, why not finesse the system?

[Daisy Kent]

Yes, exactly. So she did get we first tried to use it to get her out of having to live in the house, but that did not go over. So they did give her her own room, which was great, but I never heard of that otherwise. Before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more, well, fun. But here's a confession Dirty Rush listeners, you can find that fun feeling again on ebay. It's not mindless scrolling, it's a fashion pursuit. I love using filters for condition and price saving searches and spotting verified listings. It makes shopping feel smart and exciting again. And when you soar that rare Adidas Collab or that Dior saddlebag you've been manifesting, it's a rush. Ebay has millions of pre loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by ebay's authenticity guarantee. EBay Things people love Support for the.

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[Jennifer Kessler]

One of the frat houses, the, the Capitals, the one that are the disorganized Animal House guys, the morning after, they're trying to remember all the guys that they met the night before. So they're literally going, hey, do you remember Chris? Hey, do you remember somebody named Brian? And then they go, did anybody take pictures as they entered? So is that something they do? Do they take pictures of each of you as you enter into the house to remember a face with a name?

[Daisy Kent]

No, I don't remember that. We used to have professional. Because we didn't have cell phones. Yeah. So I want you to imagine that G. So we had. There was a professional, professional photographer at all of the parties and who. They would take your picture with either your friends or your date or whatever. And then you'd have like underneath it, it would be like, I don't know, zbt, Ae, Phi, whatever, kind of part cowboy, part whatever it was. And you had to wait until that. And then the, and then the photographer would come with all the pictures and you'd have to buy the pictures that you wanted.

[Gia]

Yeah.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah. I mean, that was. That was the only way to document this stuff.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Two of the guys end up getting into a fight in this episode, and one hits the other one with a wooden paddle. First of all, what are those wooden paddles for? I literally don't know. And have you ever heard of somebody getting in a fight with those things and using it as a weapon?

[Gia]

The wooden paddles, if I'm understanding you correctly, it's like, kind of what your sorority sisters. I mean, I don't think the frat guys do this, so I don't know why they would have a wooden paddle. But, like, in my sorority, you would, like, decorate your paddle for, like, your little. Or your, like, for your little.

[Daisy Kent]

Typically, no, I can tell you what they're for, but they. With their origin.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Tell me. I have no idea.

[Daisy Kent]

Well, it's not. I don't know if this is the absolute origin, but I grew up in a place called Sugarland, Texas, and the principal used to have a wooden paddle on the wall, and if you got in trouble, you'd have to go to the principal's office and bend over and you got what was called a pop. This is true. Can you imagine that today? Can you imagine a girl having to bend over and put her ass out while the principal smacked her? Imagine that today. But I mean, so paddles were for our peeps. They were for smacking your ass if you were bad. And I am guessing that that's. I mean, that's what they kind of represent. Thank God. Now they're just used to decorate and put cute stickers on and give to your little. But, yeah, I think they were a thing.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay, and so half accurate again on that one. We don't. We still question mark on that. Okay, so towards the end of the episode, Rusty basically declines his bid to the Omega Kai's after he catches the president basically cheating on his own sister. And the president tells him, like, hey, man, this stays between brothers. Which is kind of like, ick, right? He's like, that's my sister, and you're cheating, but you want me to keep it between us because we might be brothers? And then he gets a bid, and he's like, ew, gross. Like, no, thank you. So he declined.

[Daisy Kent]

Rusty.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Good for Rusty. And he instead chooses to be a pledge with the capitaos, the Animal House guys, because they're more fun and he's a nerd and he wants to, like, have his college experience. First of all, they call him pledge after that. So do you do that in college? You call they Literally stop calling him Rusty. And they call him pledge.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah, Yeah, I think so. He. No, yeah, no.

[Gia]

Yeah.

[Daisy Kent]

You're.

[Gia]

You're called the pledges, especially in the fraternities, Right. The freshman guys are called padres, but.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Like, literally don't call him by his name. They will say, pledge, come here, Pledge, go get.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah, yeah. Like, go clean my room. Right.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay, so that is accurate. Okay, great. And then at the end, we see Rusty in the bar, and he's now fully dressed as a girl, and he goes. He asks if, like, this is the extent of his hazing. So give it to me straight. Like, in this was. I don't. This was in 2007 when this show came out. So, like, almost 20 years ago. So are they still doing this form of hazing of dressing guys as girls or doing some sort of public embarrassment? Like this?

[Gia]

I would say public embarrassment. I don't know if it's like, they'll have them dress up as girls, but I think, yeah, like, the frat guys will do whatever they want to.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Give me an example. Tell me stuff that you saw.

[Daisy Kent]

I just remember all the frat guys having to dress in all different things on campus. Then, like, go to class in, like. Or, like, go to class without their shirts on or whatever. Yeah, yeah.

[Gia]

I mean, what is it called? Like, they would do the naked Mile around campus.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Freaking.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah. Yes. They did that back in my day.

[Jennifer Kessler]

So wait, so you guys actually witness people streaking? It's not just, like, an old school where they're like, we're going streaking. Like, that's a real thing.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah. I don't remember witnessing it, but I remember it happening. My son was also in a frat. I feel like he had to do, like, that. I don't know about streaking, but, like.

[Gia]

They make you do crazy.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay, wait, but, like, what if they. The cops get called? Like, you can go to jail for, like, being naked out in the middle of the street. Like, when are you doing this?

[Daisy Kent]

Thank God it's a different day.

[Gia]

It was probably in the middle of the night.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Like, okay, okay. Interesting. Well, thanks, guys, for kind of clearing that up for me as to what's kind of accurate. What's kind of.

[Daisy Kent]

Oh, wait, does Rusty end up okay? Poor little Rusty.

[Jennifer Kessler]

You guys have to watch. And I will say all the episodes are available on Hulu. The show was originally on ABC Family, which is now Freeform, and it is so cute and fun and four seasons. Just, like, the amount of time you're in college. So I highly recommend to anybody.

[Daisy Kent]

Oh, that's so cute.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Hasn't seen it to watch it this weekend.

[Daisy Kent]

Love that. Okay, I'm gonna say to my family, guys, sorry I can't hang out over. I'll be watching Rusty in Greek. They'll be like, you need to get a life.

[Gia]

Okay, so these were all very interesting. I definitely need to catch up on my Greek life movies and TV shows. Gia, I'm telling you, I gotta watch Animal House.

[Daisy Kent]

I mean, I feel badly. Don't tell Teresa Giudice that I'm telling you to watch it. Although it's not like it crazy, but it's just so politically incorrect. But it is funny. Oh, and by the way, the music, I really hope you'll recognize the music. The other song, shout. Come on now. Shout. I think people still use that. No. Oh, God. Otis Redding. Is that who. Oh, forget it. But you should watch the movie.

[Gia]

If I recognize any, any music, I'll. I'll text you and let you know.

[Daisy Kent]

I would appreciate it.

[Gia]

I know what I'm gonna be doing this weekend. I'm gonna be watching Animal House and Texas saying John Fest my updates, my girl. And that was our episode of Dirty Rush this week. Until next time.

[Daisy Kent]

Until next time, you guys.

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