Dirty Rush: Here’s What We Want You to Know Before Rush Begins…

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod (iHeartPodcasts)

Episode: Dirty Rush: Here’s What We Want You to Know Before Rush Begins…
Date: December 27, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this special "Dirty Rush" edition of Two Ts In A Pod, housewives experts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge turn the mics over to Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler—along with a panel of producers (some Greek life alumni, one not)—to candidly discuss the truths, myths, and secrets of sorority rush. With spring recruitment approaching, the team "tells all" about what they wish they’d known before going through rush, the emotional rollercoaster of the process, insider tips for hopefuls, and the behind-the-scenes mechanics of “being picked” in the TikTok era.

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Key Discussion Points

1. What the Hosts Wish They’d Known Before Rush

• Less Is More: Knowing too much can lead to overthinking; focus on making personal connections instead of obsessing over details.
  • “For me, I actually think less is more. You don't want to know too much or I think you would really get in your head about it.” – Gia Giudice (05:10)
• The Value of Kindness: Be genuinely nice to everyone—other rushees, seniors, “mean girls”—because reputations and relationships matter even beyond rush.
• Leverage Connections: Knowing current members is a huge advantage, though challenging for out-of-state or less-connected students.

Notable Quote:
“Be nice. Be nice even to the mean girl. Be nice to the scary senior… just be nice.” – Gia Giudice (05:36)

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2. First Impressions & Not Judging a House by One Person

• Overwhelming Rituals: Rush can feel like the restaurant “Happy Birthday song”—loud, forced, and surreal.
  • “That is sort of the feeling of a lot of rush, where you're like, oh, my God. I have to just smile here. They're, like, singing at me.” – Gia Giudice (08:24)
• Judging Too Quickly: One bad (or overly peppy) conversation can cost you; keep an open mind, as your future friends may be in the houses you almost overlooked.
• Research is Key: Learn about the chapter histories, values, and what to expect, especially regarding traditions that may feel alien (chanting, singing, etc.).

Timestamp:

• [07:03] Overwhelmed by rush rituals and making snap judgments
• [08:24] Restaurant “Happy Birthday” analogy
• [08:57] "Professor H" (non-Greek perspective) jumps in with questions

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3. Greek Life Rituals: Songs, Skits & Dance

• Learning the Songs: There’s a “whole rush prep” period for learning sorority songs and clapping routines. Songs are semi-secretive and part of the house’s bonding.
• No Singing Auditions… Unless You Go for Solos: Most girls won’t be put on the spot—unless, like Gia, you want to be “Barry Manilow at the Kappa Cabana.”
• Elaborate Performances: In past decades, “skit day” resembled a Broadway show, but today’s focus is often on TikTok and viral dance content. Choreography is led by volunteers—frequently former cheer or dance team members.

Notable Moment:
“We had a Copacabana version, but it was called Kappa Kappa Gamma, and so I had to sing.” – Gia Giudice (10:46)
“I kinda feel like social media, though, in a way during rush is like one big dance off. It's very competitive.” – Jennifer Kessler (38:08)

Timestamps:

• [09:52]–[11:00] Song and soloist discussions
• [32:01]–[39:56] Choreography, dance-offs, and TikTok

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4. Peer Pressure, Friendship Influence, and Social Media

• Friend Group Dynamics: It’s easy to get caught up in where your friends are rushing—don’t let their taste override your own gut feelings about a house.
  • “You can still be friends and be in separate sororities… It’s easy to kind of get caught up in… what my friend likes.” – Unnamed Producer (11:24)
• Instagram Research: Social platforms heavily influence opinions about each house’s reputation and “coolness,” sometimes before you even walk through the door.

Timestamp:

• [12:08] Pie chart of friends in-house/out-of-house
• [12:55] How Instagram influences choices

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5. Individuality, Intuition, and Being Your Authentic Self

• Cut Out the Noise: Ignore social pressure—go with your intuition, not the rankings, “top house” narratives, or other people’s opinions.
• Second Time’s the Charm: Rushing twice is possible, and second-timers often have better success when dropping the façade and being genuine.
  • “I felt like I had to be acting a certain way or hitting certain marks… When I went into Rush the second time, it went very well for me because I was just simply being myself.” – Jennifer Kessler (17:07)

Timestamps:

• [17:07]–[18:52] Authenticity and intuition during rush
• [18:52]–[21:04] Rules about rushing a second time

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6. How Sororities Evaluate Members (And How Rushees Evaluate Houses)

• Surface-Level Interactions: Conversations rarely address religion, politics, or partying directly (“the three Bs: booze, boys, Bible”) due to taboos.
• Behind-the-Scenes Vetting: Houses “do their research,” often via word-of-mouth or now via social media, to flag both positive and negative reputations ahead of time.
• Vibe Matters: Both sides are paying attention to conversational chemistry and deeper connections versus rehearsed surface chatter.
  • “What I really look for is, like, people who asked great questions and seemed genuinely interested…” – Jennifer Kessler (25:32)
• House "Personalities": Some are known for being studious, others for partying, some for their religious leanings; the “alignment” is less about technical fit and more about overall energy and lifestyle.

Timestamps:

• [21:49]–[23:59] Alignment, house cultures, what’s left unsaid
• [24:51] How word-of-mouth and social media inform the process

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7. Sorority and Rush Day Logistics

• Days Are Long: Eat beforehand, hydrate, prepare for exhaustion, and wear comfortable shoes.
• Not Much Food: You may only be offered lemonade or a cookie at houses—bring snacks!
• Mandatory Breaks: Some schools require breaks in cafeterias, which offer a chance to connect with other potential new members.
  • “I just remember standing all day and just being, like, trying to find a couch or something. I was like, please, Lead me to the couch.” – Sophie Cunningham (41:03)

Timestamps:

• [40:20]–[42:17] Managing food, exhaustion, and picking the right shoes

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8. Sorority Selections: Social Media, Notoriety, and Rec Letters

• Influencers & Legacy Bumps: Notoriety—such as TikTok fame or celebrity parents—can affect your chances at certain houses, especially those prioritizing social status.
  • “Those where it's like, oh, we want this girl that has a million followers, where the other ones are like, maybe don't care as much.” – Unnamed Producer (45:58)
• Recommendation Letters Matter: Alumni rec letters can dramatically improve your odds; houses often “assign” top members to recruit these candidates.

Timestamps:

• [45:38]–[47:08] Social media fame, legacy status, and rec letters

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Be nice even to the mean girl. Be nice to the scary senior—just be nice.” – Gia Giudice (05:36)
• “It’s like the Happy Birthday song in a restaurant—just smile and go with it.” – Gia Giudice (08:24)
• “Do your research. There’s so much even now that's on social media and TikTok and Instagram that I feel like you can find those answers easier now.” – Sophie Cunningham (24:37)
• “Going in as your most authentic self is always, at the end of the day, going to be the most important thing to do.” – Jennifer Kessler (17:07)
• “I always think people that think they know or they're like, I wanted a top tier… I don't even know if you really…” – Gia Giudice (21:23)
• “It's hard because I think there's a lot of taboos and you're not supposed to talk about the three Bs, which is booze, boys, and Bible.” – Jennifer Kessler (43:26)
• “Before you go, get a rec letter—it really helps your chances.” – Sophie Cunningham (46:27)

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Segment Timestamps (Selected Highlights)

• [05:10] Opening advice: "Less is more," networking, and just being kind
• [07:03] First impressions and not letting one bad encounter sway your decisions
• [09:52] Songs, chants, and the spectacle of rush
• [12:08] How friends and social media shape house decisions
• [17:07] Importance of authenticity and tuning out outside opinions
• [18:52] Can you rush again? The rules for a second round
• [21:49] How to tell if a house is right for you—even when you can’t talk about important topics
• [24:51] Social media’s role in pre-rush research and expectations
• [32:01] The evolution from skit day to TikTok dances: theatricality in Greek life
• [40:20] Rush day survival: Food, exhaustion, uncomfortable shoes
• [45:38] The impact of influencers, celebrities, and rec letters on recruitment

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Summary & Takeaways

This episode demystifies sorority recruitment by blending personal stories, honest advice, and a bit of “producer anonymity” for real talk. The roundtable delivers actionable wisdom:

• Don’t judge a house by its first impression or social rep—dig deeper.
• Don’t let friends or Instagram sway you; trust your instincts and go where you genuinely feel comfortable.
• Rush is both more theatrical and more social-media-driven than ever, but the basic human need for belonging and kindness hasn’t changed.
• Logistics matter: Eat, hydrate, and pace yourself on long days.
• Social connections (from alumni rec letters to TikTok fame) and background research are more important than ever.
• Ultimately, every house has its own “vibe”—fit is about real connection, not rankings.

Memorable Close:
“Can we go live there again, like together?” – Gia Giudice (42:37)
“Hope this was enlightening.” – Gia Giudice (47:13)

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Transcript

[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Gia Giudice]

Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth About.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Sorority Life with your hosts, me, Gia.

[Daisy Kent]

Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.

[Gia Giudice]

This is Dirty Rush and this is a special episode that's producers only. So we're really taking you behind the scenes. Behind the scenes, behind the scenes where the producers are coming on because people are about to go through Rush again. It seems like we just started the whole Rush process and now it's time for Winter Rush. Is that what you guys would call it? Winter Rush? Second semester rush? Spring Rush is coming. Spring Rush, Yeah, we had Spring Rush, but I think some people, some schools do do it at the beginning of the the next quarter. People are still getting cobs. So what we wanted to do is get all the producers on to talk about the things. Obviously the producers of the show were all in the Greek system, so we want to talk about things we wish we knew before Rush started. And we have one of our other iHeart producers who actually was not in the Greek system to ask the questions that she would want to know before going through Rush. So why don't we start just one or two tidbits from everybody about something you wish you knew before you went through Rush. So I don't want to reveal any of our producers names because the thing about this show that's different from others is that we do feel comfortable to really reveal things and to be super honest because we don't always say who we are. So why don't we just go around the group and say a couple things that you wish you knew before Rush started. I've been thinking about this a lot and for me I actually think less is more. You don't want to know too much or I think you would really get in your head about it. I think the main thing that I would say Is best advice I could give. Know as many people as you can that are in the Greek system, which is super hard for people that are going to schools far away, random schools or schools where they don't know anybody. But I think your biggest advantage is having people that you know that are in the sororities already. Two is my other advice. And I know this sounds, I don't know, very trite or very obvious. Be nice. Be nice. Be nice to everybody. Be nice. And even once you get into the sorority, be nice to everybody. I was talking to a friend last night who many, many years later, and we'll do this on a different episode. It's just be nice. Be nice even to the mean girl. Be nice to the scary senior. Whatever it is, just be nice. So that's my best advice. And now over to you guys.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay, well, I rushed a really long time ago, but I would say not as long any.

[Gia Giudice]

Wait, how many years ago? 20. I'm 30. I'm 30 years ago. Are you 20? 20 years ago?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Not quite 20. Oh, my gosh. How long ago was it? I can't even remember. 20. 2009. Whenever that we're coming up on 20, I guess. No. Some things I wish I would have known and done before rush is one kind of research the houses and a little bit of their history and also just kind of what to expect during rush. I went in very blind and was very overwhelmed by so much of the chanting and singing and that sort of thing.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, like it kind of. Like it kind of creeped you out a little bit.

[Sophie Cunningham]

A little bit, yes. I very much so was encouraged to rush from my sister who was in a sorority. However, I didn't know a lot of things about sororities. It was kind of like, okay, this is a fun way to meet some friends. So if that's you, I would just suggest maybe doing a little, little research into what to expect during rush and a little bit about the houses. The other thing I wish I did differently during rush was I did not base the house off one single person I talked to later on after I joined my house. I'm very happy with the house I joined. However, so many of my friends ended up being in the first house I dropped. And it was because I was so overwhelmed by the personality of the first person I spoke with. She was just very. Not me. She was like a very high pitched voice, very energetic, and a lot of the girls are right. This is rush week, so that happens a lot. But this girl just completely turned me off and I dropped the house first day, and then later on into the semester, most of my friends ended up being from that house, which is.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, wow.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So I would just say don't judge off the first person.

[Gia Giudice]

I thought of a good analogy when you were talking about how overwhelming it is. The best example I can give is you're in a restaurant, and it's when everyone comes out with the cake and sings Happy birthday to you. That is sort of the feeling of a lot of rush, where you're like, oh, my God. I have to just smile here. They're, like, singing at me. Or they're, you know, so excited, and you're like, ugh. So you kind of do have to prepare yourself for sort of like a lot of a happy birthday song moment.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Sorry, can I jump in here? The resident non sorority person.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, we'll call you Professor H. Professor.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

H. I have a question about singing. So you said that there's a lot of songs. You guys, once you get in, do y' all sit around and have music practice? Do you get the songs sent to you? How do you learn the songs once you join?

[Sophie Cunningham]

There's, like, a whole rush prep going into it. When you are in the house that you will learn those songs. You will clap at the right time. You need to clap. You will. It's.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

It's a.

[Jennifer Kessler]

It's a process.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It's like a. I don't know. What would you guys.

[Gia Giudice]

We should do a whole episode. We should do a whole episode just on the songs, because. So Hannah and I were in the same sorority at different schools, so we also have the same song. So I don't know if that trips out. Professor H. Well, I kind of figured.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

That every house probably has their own songs, but I also want to know, like, how secretive are these songs? Are we talking. It's like those secret handshakes you guys talk about where, like, other people can't hear you practicing the lyrics to these songs. I guess my other thing is, I. I went to cheer tryouts, right. In high school. I'm assuming this is maybe a little bit kind of similar where I had to go through a process for 10 days, and I had to learn cheers, and I had to learn dance routines, but then I had to audition with those.

[Gia Giudice]

Is there a point where you have.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

To sing for somebody to show and prove that you know these?

[Gia Giudice]

No, not really.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Everybody's shaking their head no to that question.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Only I think if you want to be like a. If you want to be like, a soloist, like, I was Barry Manilow on the Kappa Cabana Day. And so I think I had. Well, this is.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Sounds like American Idol or something, like an audition.

[Gia Giudice]

So I had to. We had a Copacabana version, but it was called Kappa Kappa Gamma, and so I had to sing. So I think somebody must have wanted to make sure I could sing like, a nightmare.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Sorry.

[Gia Giudice]

Really embarrassing. I'm not like, Ariana Grande or anything. I think you can get by with just, like, a mediocre voice even to do a solo. But, like, anyway, I want to go to everybody else for the things that they wish they knew. But the singing is a whole episode. Please make note. We should do a whole episode because there's songs you have to sing on meeting night to, like, get in the door. But anyway, we'll talk about that later.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

So I would say one thing that I wouldn't necessarily recommend doing is, you know, you go into college. I had a lot of my high school friends that went to the same college as me, and we rushed all at the same time, and I feel like we kind of influenced each other. Like, ooh, I really like that house. And I like that house, but I don't like this one as much. And I feel like you really need to be, like, individual in the sense where it's like, okay, my friend might not like that house, but we don't have to be in the same house. Like, we can still be friends and be in separate sororities. So it's easy to kind of get caught up in, like, ooh, this is what my friend likes, and so on and so forth.

[Gia Giudice]

I have a weird question on that.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Mm.

[Gia Giudice]

Like, pretend it was, like, percentages or, like, you know, a pie. How many of your friends were in your sorority versus other sororities? I think I'm, like, 75% in mine, 25% others. But you guys weigh in.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

I would say the same. I would honestly even say my school is a little bit smaller. So we had, like. I want to say maybe, like, four, five sororities to choose from. So I'd say, yeah, mine was, like, 80, 20, but. And it ended up working out, like, totally. Don't regret it at all. But I wonder if my friends and I stayed a little separate, if we maybe would have chosen, like, different houses from each other.

[Gia Giudice]

Wow. Oh, interesting.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

So you kind of ended up going to the same house because you did influence each other.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

Oh, yeah, totally. And I feel like, too, like, I rushed probably, like, I think nine years ago. Eight or nine years ago. So I, like, I remember we would, like, stalk their Instagrams and be like, ooh, like this house looks so cool and the girls look so fun and like blah blah blah. So we definitely did a lot of Instagram research beforehand that I think also like going into it, we kind of knew which houses we thought were cool. And that's right.

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[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

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[Jennifer Kessler]

I think kind of along the same lines of cutting out the noise beforehand. Whether it's your friends, whether it's social media, it is such an individual experience. And I think it's really important to just make sure that a you're listening to your intuition versus other people's opinions or what house is a top house and what house is not considered as quote unquote cool. And kind of tuning out a lot of that noise because it can impact your decision so much. What you think others will think is cool, but really it's all about you and ending up in the place that's the most aligned. And I also think that just like going in as your most authentic self is always at the end of the day, going to be the most important thing to do. And it's easy to lose sight of that when there's so much comparison going on or other people in your ear telling you what where they think you would fit in or where they're going and why they're doing what they're doing. So I think that really just tuning into yourself is going to be the most important thing to do because I I rushed twice. The first time I rushed, it did not go very well. And when I look back on that time, it was there were a lot of components that went into it, but I think a huge part of it is I felt like I had to be acting a certain way or hitting certain marks in my conversation, and I was just trying to control the narrative too much rather than letting the process happen. And when I went into Rush the second time, it went very well for me and I ended up in the house that was most aligned for me because I was just simply being myself. So I think kind of getting out of your head and any preconceived notions, like leaving them at the door is really important.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

That was kind of one of my questions I wanted to ask about the ability to rush twice. So you're saying you can do that. Are there any parameters that are put on the second time? Like you can't go back to certain houses and rush again. Like, what happens when you go out.

[Gia Giudice]

Second time, pledge a house? Tell me if I get this right. If you pledge a house and you sign the card and then you decide you don't like it, I think you can't rush again for a year or something like that. If you get initiated, you can never rush a different house.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Yeah, that's correct. So if I were to have taken a bid from a house, but it gets a few. It takes a few months to get initiated and I took that bid and then I was like, never mind. Then I could go through rush again, but I couldn't take a bid from that house again.

[Gia Giudice]

Is that true? You can't take a bid from the same house twice? I think I didn't know that.

[Jennifer Kessler]

I don't think you can correct me if I'm wrong, anybody else, but at least that was allowed.

[Gia Giudice]

I think if you go through rush, you get a bid and you decide to drop out or not accept the bid. I think you can't go through rush for a year. Like you couldn't get a cob from another house. But now I'm have. I'm questioning myself. But yeah, I think if you go to preference, you fill it out, you're agreeing that either of those houses, or three, whatever your school does, gives you a bid, that you're going to take it. I think.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Now, are there exceptions if, like a family emergency happens which causes you to drop out of school and then you come back, do you get any sort of leniency?

[Gia Giudice]

I think if you were a pledge, say, say DG gives you a bid and then there was some sort of an emergency, you can just come back to dg. You couldn't just go rush again, you would just be a dg. DG would work it out with you.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Yeah, I think that's right, because you've already accepted the bid to that house, so you ideally would have the intention of going through initiation with them. So I think you just work it out with them to where you could Be initiated later or something.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, you just stay at dg?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

I don't really know anybody that, like, accepted a bid, dropped out, and then went through rush again. That feels kind of random. I don't. I don't know if people did that.

[Jennifer Kessler]

I know a few people who did that because they put two people down for pref, and then they got the house that they didn't want, and they were like, let me try it out. And then after a month initiation was coming up. They were like, I don't think this is a line. So they chose to leave that house and then rush again the following year.

[Gia Giudice]

So kind of I'm just gonna say, and maybe this is something that you would want to know before. I think that's also hooey. Like, every house, for the most part, is gonna have people that you're gonna get along with. You're not gonna be best friends with everybody. So I don't know. I. I always think people that think they know or they're like, I wanted a top tier. It's like, I don't even know if you really.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

This is.

[Gia Giudice]

This is.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

This brings me to my next question. When you're talking about alignment with a house, I mean, I don't assume that you're saying sitting around and, you know, talking about, like, I don't know, family backgrounds or religion or something.

[Gia Giudice]

Right.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Talking about girls personalities and, like, how much they party versus how much they emphasize on education or am I being totally off the.

[Gia Giudice]

No, you got it. You got it. I think the other. The other girls can weigh in, but I think you got it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I will say going to a university where there is a strong religious. I would say it's just a strong religious area. I did not. This was not talked about during rush. However, things after rush became very apparent in a specific house of girls that did not party and were from the same religious background than other houses, and they did not make it aware during rush.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Maybe something that those girls wish they'd asked prior about religion. Maybe people should be asking about religion when they're rushing.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I think probably depends on the school for sure. But being at one of those schools, my sister, who had been through the same sorority system and at that school before, wouldn't tell me which house it was, as she wanted me to make up my own choices. And me coming from not a Mormon background and kind of really being a partier in college, I guessed wrong. It was one of my top houses. It was one of my prep houses.

[Gia Giudice]

Interesting. Yeah. And they really don't want You. I mean, I think they frown upon talking about politics or religion during rush. So it's a little bit of a confusing situation because you're not supposed to talk about those things. But then what if that's like a major part of the house? And then you're like, wait, whoops.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, right, exactly. Like, if I would have actually gotten it, I probably would have had to drop, and it wouldn't have aligned necessarily with what I was looking for my college career.

[Gia Giudice]

I guess you're not supposed to, like, also say, like, so what fraternities do you guys hang out with?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Right.

[Gia Giudice]

But you want to.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

So how are you sussing this out just based on, like, small talk?

[Gia Giudice]

Well, yeah, but I knew that's the thing that's so different for some people's experiences versus others, because I knew what houses, what fraternities this house hung out with. I knew the girls in the house. So I knew a lot. That's why it's harder for me to be like, what did I need to know? Like, I already knew it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's why my advice is to, like, before you go into it, do your research. I mean, there's so much even now that's on social media and TikTok and Instagram that I feel like you can find those answers and easier now.

[Gia Giudice]

Totally.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like, I was the very beginning of social media, and so that didn't really exist out there unless you knew people in the system.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

And we didn't even have cell phones. Like, we didn't even have cell phones. So we. There was no email when I went through rush, so everything was sort of like word of mouth. Like, you knew it because you knew it. Like, I don't know how to explain it. And I think about this all the time because we also knew where to go at night to meet up with the same friends we had. And I don't know how we knew, but we just knew. So I think that that's the interesting thing is it's just sort of word of mouth vibe. If one person knows, 20 people know. I don't know.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Also, for me, it was a lot about the types of conversations I was having because there were some girls where I felt like it kind of is like that vibe of, oh, you just click immediately and you're able to have a less surface level conversation. Whereas some houses I went in and I just felt like everybody was really skimming the surface. And so what I really look for is, like, people who asked great questions and seemed genuinely interested because, I mean, it must. It's Hard to do when you're recruiting people to be on all the time. And, like, you could tell what houses, I feel like, were more intentional in picking their girls by, like, the caliber of questions that they asked, I guess. And I liked getting in those deeper conversations with people. So I was like, this is what makes me feel at home and what drew me to the sorority that I ended up picking.

[Gia Giudice]

Well, that's kind of an interesting thing because my niece, who's in a sorority, her best friend in the sorority is like the greatest, cutest, most fun girl you could ever imagine. But she sort of has. This is what I've heard from my niece, so I'd have to ask her, but she gets a little bit socially anxious. So even though she is probably one of the coolest girls in the whole house, she can't be in the front at rush because she gets too anxious and can't, like, talk to the new people coming in. So it's kind of your personality also determines, like, if you're going to be good at. We called them, like, you know, being the rusher to the rushies. I think you guys call it, like. What do you guys call it?

[Jennifer Kessler]

We called it the same thing.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

Yeah, I think so too.

[Gia Giudice]

The person trying to recruit or whatever. We just call it the rusher and the rushee. You guys call it, like new members or potential new members.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Oh, the person is a pnm. A potential.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

No, that's so true, though, with the personality thing. Like, you guys know me, I'm very like, hi. And so I feel like they put me with people. They were like, ooh, we like, we want this girl. And we'd like, you know, someone with a big personality to kind of like crack their shell and make sure, like, okay, this is someone that could be in the sorority. Yeah, the softer spoken people. It was totally like a different vibe. And whoever they were talking to, I'm sure it was like just a different experience overall.

[Gia Giudice]

So the hardest part is if you have just two very, very quiet people, sort of introverted, because then two introverted people are sort of sitting there feeling awkward, whereas being introverted is totally fine. But it's just you don't want to make it awkward. So it's almost like you kind of need a strong person to ask the introverted people just some questions.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

Yeah, that's so true.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Because if.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

Yeah, I've heard kind of horror stories of two people that just don't really know what to say and then it's awkward silence and it's kind of like so like, tell me about your family. Like it's like it gets weird. So yeah, that's a huge part of it for sure.

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[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

So one thing I'm fascinated by, obviously that is taking off on TikTok when it comes to Rush is these over the top elaborate dancing that people are doing with their houses. So one I want to know, like when you're rushing, are they asking you if you can dance? If you like have rhythm when you get in, do you have to go to dance practice? Like how many days a week? Like how many girls have to be.

[Daisy Kent]

A part of this?

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

What if you start doing the stunts and somebody falls and gets injured? I don't know, it just seems like a lot like so tell me about the dance aspect and if you're asking questions about the dancing during Rush, I.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Think for us it was more so some people are just like that and they want to do it. Some people, there's always a social media manager or whatever who's in charge of putting the.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

I'm sorry, there's a social media manager for that.

[Jennifer Kessler]

That's like a position within the house.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

A position within the house isn't like a hired person that does this profession.

[Jennifer Kessler]

No, it's one of the girls in the house and they'll get elected to be in charge of the Instagram and the TikTok or whatever. So there are always the people who are kind of curating, however that's going to look and executing their vision throughout Rush. So a lot of times they'll pull random people for pictures and stuff. But for videos like that, I feel like there was always girls who did cheer in high school or girls who were on the dance team at college that would just kind of volunteer automatically and were into that sort of thing. So they wanted to be at the front and they wanted to be getting a group together and practicing the dances. And so at least in our Case there were always people who wanted to do it. So it wasn't like we were pulling teeth and having dance practice. It just kind of happened more naturally.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

Same we didn't. TikTok wasn't a thing yet, so it was all Instagram when I was doing it. And it was definitely like the cheerleaders or, you know, girls like that or girls that, like, wanted to dance, that would be doing their thing. Definitely not, like, a requirement, though. And, yeah, no practices for us either.

[Gia Giudice]

So in the 90s, we didn't do the big dancing things. We had something called porch songs. So what would happen is, forget if it was every day or part of rush, the Rushies would come up and the girls would come out sort of onto the porch and sing the song. So there might be, like, rhythmic clapping or sort of, like, slight dance moves, but nothing like, you see now more like hands up, hands down. Hands up, hands down. Kappa. Kappa. Like that. But then the university, I think, decided that that was a bit disruptive. All the singing all the time. And you would have sort of sing offs, kind of pitch perfect style.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

I was just gonna say, like, pitch perfect.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, like, across the street. So you'd be like, kappa, we are Kappa. And they'd be like, we are PI. Phi. PI. Phi. PI. Phi. And then you kind of, like, have them at each other. And then I think that they took it away because it was, like, disruptive to the neighborhood sort of a vibe. So then you couldn't sing until everybody was in the house and the door completely closed. Then you were allowed to sing. But we didn't have these, like, dance routines. The only thing we did have is this elaborate skit day. So there was this skit day, and, like, the entire house was transformed into, like, a Broadway show, basically, with, you know, every. The walls and the this and the that and all these things. And that was the Barry Manilow day. So that was when we had, like, a full production, a full skit. And, like, people sat kind of, like, in the audience. They would be watching this sort of show. I thought it was amazing. When I went through Rasch, I was like, this is the most awesome thing I've ever seen. Because I just felt like I went to, like, show after show after show.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

I think my mind is so blown. I didn't realize how much theatrics went in being in a sorority, I'm wondering why you guys don't target theater majors.

[Gia Giudice]

I feel like they don't want to be in a sorority, but maybe they.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Don'T know that there Is so much singing and acting and dancing. They're missing out on this.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Possibly. I do feel like theater kids, like, tend to end up having, like, their own, you know, like group, I guess, sorority, fraternity together as like their. Yeah, but it's true. I do think. I don't know why I can't fully remember the skit date, but mine was very similar to hers that it. We didn't have the group dances, but also like. And honestly, the social media manager, that's a new role that didn't exist either for us.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, we obviously didn't have that either. Like, but it was pretty elaborate. Like, we turned the phone booth. Yes, we had a phone booth into what looked like an aquarium. And then there was a girl who was like a full mermaid in the phone booth, making it look like she was swimming. And then there was like all this singing and dancing. And then we did have. Do you know that song Word up by Cameo? Do you guys remember that? Word Up. We did do this thing. Oh, I'm totally telling a secret now. Where every pledge class made up an eight count. And then each year the dance would get longer and longer because the eight count would just go on and on and on and on. I have no memory of too much of the dance. I just know that it was Word up by Cameo. But that was kind of cool. So there definitely was like dancing.

[Sophie Cunningham]

There's dancing and then those girls that, like myself, who are not great dancers, we just got put in the back. It's like you've got alumni there that's like choreographing things and they're like, you like kind of take the back, you know, so the ones who are meant to shine are in the front with the good voices and the good dance moves.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

She was talking about some like, riff off, sing off thing that was happening back in her day. Are they doing dance offs now with these elaborate dancing things that they're doing?

[Jennifer Kessler]

I kinda feel like social media, though, in a way during rush is like one big dance off. It's very competitive.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

That's what it looks like as an outsider for sure.

[Jennifer Kessler]

For some reason that has just become what signifies the coolest house is if you can like make a cool TikTok. I don't know, but it feels like one big dance off. It feels very competitive to have the best choreographed thing. But it's weird because that's not in person. It's just online.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Okay, so that answers my question then. When sororities pass each other in the streets, they're not having a dance Off. Okay.

[Gia Giudice]

No.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Good to know.

[Gia Giudice]

Do they do those dances? Do the sororities do those dances at all during rush, or is it just, like, on Instagram and TikTok? It's not, like, actually even a part of rush.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Not really. I think it's TikTok. And then when you're doing the songs out the door and clapping and bouncing and whatever, but it's not a real dance. I don't think they're performing dances.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, so they don't ever do that whole, like, dance shenanigans during rush, and.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

They don't perform these dances for frat houses?

[Jennifer Kessler]

No, no, no.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

I don't know. I'm asking.

[Gia Giudice]

There was only. There was a little singing that could happen, like, during a pinning or something, but, like, otherwise, you don't really, like, do any of that. For the fraternities.

[Jennifer Kessler]

We had one thing at our school. It was a big fraternity event, and it's like a big dance off, and every sorority has a portion of their girls choreograph this dance for weeks, and then they go into the main, like, courtyard area on campus and everybody performs it. It's a competition for, like, a frat event. It's a fundraising thing, but other than that, there's no performances to the frat boys.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

I think anybody who wants to rush needs to get a pair of tap shoes or something before they go out and start stomping. They need to learn how to do a little bit of rhythm. It sounds like, listen, I have zero.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Rhythm, and I survived it. They'll be okay. They'll be okay. It's just fun.

[Gia Giudice]

It is just fun. Wait, so, Professor H. Before we go, what other questions would you have about things you would want to know before rush?

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Oh, gosh. I think before Rush, I would want to know, do I get fed when I'm going to these houses, or do I need to eat before I go?

[Gia Giudice]

You definitely need to, like, slam some sandwiches before, because I feel like you almost can go all day without food. I think one of them, you get, like, a lemonade, maybe a cookie.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm trying to remember if I, like, remember, like, a little break of, like, food that they would feed all the PNM's in between. But, yes, definitely hydrate and eat something before, because it is a long day, and it's a lot of talking that it can, you know, and work. I. It's silly for me to say this, but honestly, wear comfortable shoes. I just remember standing all day and just being, like, trying to find a couch or something. I was like, please, Lead me to the couch.

[Gia Giudice]

You know what's, like, so funny is, like, I don't even know that I could do it at my age. Now I feel like, whoa, that was so tiring. At 50, I'm like, I don't know if I could do it. Like, I could when I was 18.

[Jennifer Kessler]

It is really tiring for us. In between rounds, you were required to be in the cafeteria. So we had this giant cafeteria where all the girls were required to be in if you weren't at a house doing recruitment round. So it was kind of cool because you get food and water and, like, are reminded to hydrate and ac. Because where I went to school, it was very hot outside when we rushed made, which made it all more exhausting. But it's kind of cool because you're a little bit forced to be in this environment where you're making friends throughout rush and not just focused on making friends at the houses. You're sitting with the girls in between rounds and getting to know people. So I thought it was a good opportunity. But, yeah, we were required to take our breaks in the cafeteria, and then at the end of the day, everybody all together could go home. But it was an old day.

[Gia Giudice]

No way.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

I also thought it was super fun. Like, I don't know if I'm, like, alone in that, but I thought the whole thing was just so fun. I was like, this is the greatest.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

It was so fun and, like, being able to, like, dress in the outfits you wanted. You're like, okay, I can wear this.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You know, on day one.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

And, like, stuff like that and be with your friends, too. It's. It's so much fun.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. I thought it was so fun. And, like, we talk about this all the time, but my sorority sisters and I talk about all the time. We're like, can we go live there again, like, together?

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Now I know how I would if I was in charge of, like, sussing people out to be in our house. Like, the kinds of questions I would ask, I wouldn't ask just the get to know you. I'd probably throw in a couple of zingers to do a little test, test, test, you know, like, hey, we go out and party all night. Do you have a fake on you? Like, that kind of stuff, you know?

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, that would be very, very frowned upon. Okay.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

So I wanted to know, is there somebody assigned to throw out some of those kind of baited questions in the process to kind of suss out the girls that maybe aren't the right fit for the house?

[Jennifer Kessler]

It's hard because I think there's a lot of taboos and you're not supposed to talk about the three Bs, which is booze, boys, and Bible. So religion.

[Gia Giudice]

We never quite heard it like that. We never, like, heard it like that, but I think it was just sort of understood. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like eventually we did start.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Talking about, like, boys, I guess I'm just wondering, like. So you're. You're literally just going off of a vibe then on if you like a girl versus, like, getting into that nitty gritty to see if she likes, you know, is a party animal or if she cheats on her boyfriend with their, you know, steals guys from her best friend. You know, you don't ask any of those kinds of questions to really, like, suss somebody out during this process.

[Sophie Cunningham]

There is a bit of research done by the houses before Rush even starts about that with people. I'm sure it's much more intense now with social media. Before social media, it was kind of word of mouth. You know, a lot of. I would say a lot of kids go to. In state schools, not everybody, but so there would be people be like, oh, she went to my high school, or is friends with so and so that I know. And this is something that they told me about this person. And we kind of clock that early. And like, they. So early almost even before Rush starts. So it was almost like, keep an eye out. Like, she's a little bit of a red flag already. And then, like, see how the conversations go with them without having to. I'm with the other girl who talked about the three Bs. Ours was the same. You couldn't. You weren't supposed to talk about those things. So there is a little bit of that done beforehand. And then does she give off those vibes? Does she.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Well, to piggyback off of that. So maybe somebody that's not notorious for a bad thing in their past, but maybe notorious for. For whether they come from a prominent family or they used to date a professional athlete or something like that. Do those kinds of things get researched and get you pushed to the front of the line, essentially, for some schools, if you have a really big.

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[Gia Giudice]

Well, I definitely think dating a professional athlete when you're 18 would be a little bit.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

I'm just saying, what about these tick tockers that are coming into school with, you know, their freshman year with over a million followers and that kind of notoriety is that push you to the front of people's list of you know, houses wanting you now.

[Unnamed Producer/Participant]

Yeah, I think depending on the house to like what they prioritize. Like, there were houses that were very studious, like that was kind of what they were known for. And then like more pop, like popular houses. So those where it's like, oh, we want this girl that has a million followers, where the other ones are like, maybe don't care as much.

[Gia Giudice]

I always wonder about the celebrities kids, because you always hear about celebrities kids going through rush and I never know if that's like good, bad, if people know. I don't know. I always think about that.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Another piece of advice to kind of help with this situation that I thought of is before you go, if you know somebody, an aunt, your mom's best friend, an upperclassman, somebody who was in these houses before, get a rec letter from somebody who was in the house, it really helps your chances. It puts you probably above some other girls because that does happen where they will look out for you. You will be one of their top girls and they will assign specific girls to be the ones to talk to you, to try and influence you to choose that house, essentially.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Especially if you know someone in that house, like, that's still there. Still there.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But yeah, even alumni polls can go pretty far, I think.

[Jennifer Kessler]

So.

[Gia Giudice]

Hope this was enlightening.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

I learned a lot today, you guys, as a non sorority sister, thanks for letting me in today.

[Gia Giudice]

More to come. I can't wait for the singing episode.

[Professor H (Non-sorority perspective)]

Start warming up those vocal cords.

[Gia Giudice]

Get your dance shoes. Talk to you guys later.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Bye. Bye.

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[Gia Giudice]

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