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Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life, with your hosts, me, Gia
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Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kess. Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. So today I have a very special guest. Well, she's very special, and she's also very special to me. I have. You guys may actually know her, but I have someone named Annie Sharp, and you may recognize the name and. Or the face from a very popular radio show, to say the least, called Jeff Lewis Live. By the way, you guys, I'm. We're broadcasting this from Vale, Colorado, where I am spending a week with my family. And, yeah, it is. It's really beautiful here. Really fun. I don't ski, so probably wasn't the vacation for me necessarily. But anyway, we are taking a break from the break because I am so obsessed with my little Miss Annie.
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No, I literally am obsessed. Every time you come on the show and they mention you, I'm like, I love that they always make fun of me. Where if we're, like, kindred spirits.
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Well, I feel like, Annie, like, you're kind of me at that. Like, at your age, I feel like I was a lot like you. And it's so funny because, having you on Dirty Rush, because I also. I was a sorority girl at a Southern school. University of Texas. You were at Ole Miss, right? And I was at Texas. I was an A5, but I think I was the least sorority girl sorority girl ever. At least that's kind of how I felt and how I feel now, even though I'm obsessed with everything, you know, sorority. But, like, you do not. I don't think you give sorority girl. I don't know exactly what I mean by that.
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I was very defiant of the, like, sorority things, but I'm, like, a girly girl. I like to party. I want to put on costumes.
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You are girly girl, right?
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But, like, the sorority girl aspect of it, like, where we had to, like, show up to things and, like, be sober and, like, be a community. I just was, like, not down for that in college. Like, the blue lipstick, I could.
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So, yeah, I don't even know what that. What does it mean?
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The blue lipstick?
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I don't know what that is.
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Oh, I was a Kappa. Kappa Gamma. So everything was. Our colors were blue on blue.
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Okay.
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And so everything was blue. So everyone would like spray their hair blue. Do the blue lips, blue eyeshadow. And every time I did it, like, it was so ugly. Well.
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Well, you could never be ugly. But I also feel like maybe also conformity is not necessarily your thing.
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No.
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Right. Well, let's start. I'm. I'm getting way ahead of myself. First of all, tell the people where you went to school and what sorority you were in. Even though we just mentioned it.
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Because I. I went to the University of Mississippi, also known as Ole Miss, and I was at Kappa Kappa Gamma. And it's like, it's a good house there, but there's very like a deep, deep rooted, like, sororities that are like KD and tried out. They're like all Mississippi girls. And then there's. So those are the tip top houses. And then there's like other top houses, but they're not full of Mississippi girls, which I would say are Phi Mu, DG and Kappa. And so we're all on one street. Did you have sorority houses?
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Yeah.
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Okay, so we're all like on one section of campus. And then there's all the other ones that are on like another section that is like Caio, adpi, whatever. It doesn't matter. So I was a Kappa and. And I only got. I did not want to rush. I didn't even want to go to college. And then my sister was a year ahead of me and she went. And she's like type A to a T, like she was getting into a good sorority like her life depended on it.
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But she went. She went to Ole Miss.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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A year before me.
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Just a quick. Why did you guys. Why Ole Miss? And you were living in Texas at the time.
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Yeah. So she found it and she loved it. And we're 18 months apart. And then I didn't want to go to college. I was like, I'm going to move to LA and be, be a star. And my parents were like, no, you
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did do that in the end.
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But okay, well, they were like college first. They always believed in me, but they were like, chill out. Like, let's do college. Let's be a little bit traditional. So then I didn't apply anywhere for school because I didn't want to go. And then it came out, like, acceptance letters started coming out. And I think my sister had applied me to Ole Miss herself. And so, like, the only place I was accepted. So then my parents, like, you're going to.
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I gotta Meet your sister. She sounds like the best.
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No, she's the best. She's a hardcore bitch, but, like, in the best way.
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One of us.
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No, literally one of us.
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Okay, so you go to the quintessential Southern, like, Greek life school, right. And were you going with the intent to rush? Like, you went in because your sister knowing that that was gonna be part of this experience for you?
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Yeah, I was. If I was going to Ole Miss, which I was, I was gonna rush. Like, there was no way I wasn't gonna rush.
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Right. Right.
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Yeah. I like. And I was very entering the rush process. Like I always say. Like, I have an open mind. I really wanted to be a Phi Mu because I'm obsessed with pink, so I wanted to be a Phi Mu so bad, and I met, like, three Phi Mu's, and I got cut, like, the first round, I think, and then after that.
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But your sister was president of Kappa, and you still didn't want me in Kappa?
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Well, no, because I wanted to be different. I was like, I'm already going to her school. I don't. But then I got there, and, like, during rush, I don't know how your rush experience was, but, like, you go to each house and they pull the girl and they talk to you. I would go into Kappa, and everyone would be, like, catering to me. So excited to see me because I was a sister of an active, so I was like, what do they call a legacy?
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Right.
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And so the attention I got there, I mean, like, I'm flattered.
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Right.
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How could I not go Kappa?
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Yeah. That was always how it was. I mean, I remember the sort of guy I ended up in as well. Well, there were two Jewish sororities, and I wanted to be in one, but it was. Yeah, it was a different feeling, certainly, than going into the other stories where they didn't know who I was and didn't really care. But anyway. Okay, so do you have any, like, crazy, wild rush stories from. From the week you remember?
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My rush was. Was very obvious from the start. Like, my sister was an active Kappa. There was no way any other house was going to take me, so I kind of got screwed.
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So.
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And I thought I was like, oh, I have an open mind. And then, like, I just started getting caught by everyone. Cool. And then I had, like, the two loser houses left in Kappa, and I was like, okay, like, I can't with you. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be. We all know there's loser houses.
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I mean, this show is called Dirty Rush. We're all on the same page. Go.
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Okay, good, good. But then what was so sick is my junior year, they were redoing the Kappa house, and the worst sorority on our campus got kicked off campus because they were so bad and no one wanted to pledge them. And so then we had to live in that. In the loser house for a year.
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What is that? What do you mean? Wait. No one wanted to pledge? They had an empty house?
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They didn't have an empty house. The chapter got kicked off our campus because they had such, like, a bad reputation.
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Okay.
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From my understanding, okay, that house was vacant. So then they're like, oh, we can stay in that house. But then we, like.
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Did you like living in there? Living there? In the end, I didn't end up
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living in the house because they made us live in the other house. I didn't want to.
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Okay. Okay, well, all right. So I'm a brat, too. So tell me a little bit about how Ole Miss, the Greek life, and specifically the sorority system is different than other schools.
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It's very. Okay, so there's this thing during rush on when I wasn't, like, on the side where I was, like, getting sorted, whatever it's called. When I was on the side of, like, deciding. It's so crazy. Like, we go through every single girl. We have, like, slideshows. We all, like, vote and, like, say what we know about them. And it's like, a chapter of over 400 women, and we're, like, looking at the slideshow. Oh, I know her. I went to high school with her. She does this, this, and this. I dated her brother one time. She yelled at her mom. Like, the craziest. Like, the craziest thing.
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Do you think? Like, obviously you're conscious of the fact that. That this is so. Like, Ole Miss is just so known for this, right? For being so intense in terms of Greek life. But so I picture not. I don't know. Obviously, not everyone at Ole Miss is involved, but in Greek life. No, I just picture it as, you know, so intense, specifically the rush process. But also, like, we see the videos on Tick Tock, and, you know, it is the. It's like these choreographed dances that look like it's, you know, perfect. Like, was it always like that? Was it that intense when you were there?
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You wouldn't believe the drama. Like, we go to the house for work week, the week before rush starts or school starts. I think rush also. And there's one girl that's, like, Rush chairman. The themes, the way she yells at us, like, the friendships that are Falling apart. The tears. It's insane. I'll never forget it. Like, we had a rehearsal. Yes. And we're, like, jumping and clapping and we're getting screamed at by our peers. It was insane. But one time we went home and they were so mad at us because we. Whatever. I don't remember why they were so mad at us. I think we didn't, like, dress up enough for the themes and we weren't taking it seriously enough, so they sent us home.
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Home.
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And then they had an optional practice that night, but they threatened us, like, you have to come. But it was an optional practice. And I'll never forget. I was, like, sitting at my apartment and my friend. Two of my friends came over and they're like, are you coming? And I was like, no. Like, it's optional. I'm not going. And they literally looked at me, tears in their eyes. You're not gonna support.
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Oh, come on.
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Are you kidding me?
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No, not.
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The girl literally was like, if you didn't dress up
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and you're, like, laughing at her, you're like, dude, chillax. No.
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And I would dress, like. Like, one time. Our theme, I think, was like, rock and roll. And I dressed up as Ke$ha. But not even just, like, like, really ugly. Just. I did not plan ahead. Neither did my whole friend group. None of us planned ahead. We just all looked like we put on a pile of, like, we look terrible.
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I love that. I mean, I feel like that's. I would want to be in that sorority. Like that or do it.
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Absolutely.
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Follow me in Kappa, we're like that. No.
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Most of the girls, like, were picture perfect cute, like, put together.
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Right?
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No, my. Like one of my. My last week of school, this girl that was like the perfect quintessential Kappa. I'm still friends with her. She lives in San Diego now. She came up to me and she was like, you guys are alcoholics. Like, you guys have problems. Like, love my reputation.
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They know, but they don't get it. Like, it's the kind of thing that, like, if, you know, like, Southern schools, you get it. Or I don't think they get it. Like, I just say, oh, I went to a party school.
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I just love that your career path is so fabulous. And it just is so doesn't follow, you know, the beaten trail. What's that expression?
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In my mind? Off the beaten path.
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We are your aid. Off the beaten path. Thank you. And. But being a sorority feels. It's so structured, right? And I feel like you're such not a structured woman. And so it's like, I kind of enjoy picturing you. And so having said that, you told me that your sister was constantly having to get you out of sh. T. Right? Like, yeah, she was in trouble, which doesn't surprise me. So, like, I told her I was
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doing this podcast and she was literally like, annie, please don't embarrass our chapter. I'm like, you're 28 years old. Why do you care? Like, but I didn't care when I was in it. But, like, we had functions all the time. So one night we had like, a date party. I cannot remember the. Oh, it was Mai Tai. Have you heard of Mai Tai?
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No.
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So Mai Tai, we always had theme. So Mai Tai was you pick a date for your friends, and the way you do it is you get that your. The dates tie and the girls are wearing it at the pregame. And then the guys show up and they find the girl wearing their tie the night today. And so it was that day party and I kind of miss those kind of things. Like those were so fun. But we go to the bar and I'm pretty sure I used the fake to get into the bar. I think I was underage and me and my friend were like walking around. We're already absolutely wasted. I drank out of a baby bottle in college. A straight fireball. Like a psychopath. And I brought it to the bar with me. We get there, we go into this like closet that we thought was the bathroom. And it turns out it was the liquor closet. And we're like, hell yeah. So we're doing like full photo shoot, like climbing up the ladder, like in these tiny little dresses, like acting insane. And then we walk out and we're both wearing our dates jackets. So we both put bottles in the pockets of the jackets and we're absolutely. And we get the hats and we put them on backwards. Cuz there like some employees left their hats in there. And we walk out, we're both wearing hats that say swag and these jacket coats or whatever. And then we're walking around. Then they grab us immediately and they like take the stuff and they're like, what the heck you guys, whatever. And we're just like, whatever. Like move on, party. And then all of a sudden I hear that they called the cops. And so I called my.
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Wait, so sisters called the cops or that bar? The bar. Okay.
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Because we raided a liquor closet. Even though we gave everything back and we were just like being dumb. Like whatever. Probably shouldn't have done that, but whatever. So I call my friend and he comes and drives to the front and he picks us up. Literally as the police are pulling up, we're like jumping in the getaway car and like getting away.
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Oh my God. You ran from the cops? I cannot, I cannot with you, Annie.
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They brought the footage to my now brother in law who was my sister's boyfriend. And they were like. Because they knew he was the boyfriend of the president. And they're like, do you know who these girls are?
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Yeah.
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And the king.
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Why? Was he a cop?
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No, no, no. He just was like my sister's boyfriend. So they knew like the president would know everyone. The boyfriend.
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Okay, okay.
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And they couldn't find Ellie. I think Ellie was. My sister was dealing with whatever a drunk girl throwing up somewhere. And so they ask Ethan and he's like, I have no idea who they are.
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How many times has he said that about you, my love?
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He was a king. Like the amount of times I called him like, can you come pick me up?
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Can you come pick.
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Well, tell me, though.
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But then. So did you get in trouble? Like, did your sister have to get you out of it?
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Yes. So we got called to Standards, me and my friend Anna, and I worked for the school newspaper, and so. And I am terrified of confrontation. Like, really? Yeah. Yeah. Like, if I'm gonna be in trouble and I know I did something wrong, I cannot stand there and hear my punishment. Like, I just get. So. It's bad. I need to learn to work through that. But anyway, so I had a job, so I was like, I have work. I can't come to standards. And so my friend had to go to standards by herself, and she got yelled at. And then by, like, a girl in our sorority. Like, I'm just like, it's so dumb.
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Yeah.
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And, yeah, we just got in trouble, and then I don't. I don't think anything really happened. It's like a slap on the wrist, and then nothing.
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Was your sister there? Was your sister. Sister like, oh, he saved you. Or other. The other girls? Like, oh, yeah.
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My sister was the reason I didn't get in trouble, because she was like, it's Annie. Like, you guys know Annie. And they're like, yeah, she's crazy.
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Wait, your sister get pissed at you for it? Oh.
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Oh, yeah. My mom's phone would just be, like, blowing up. Both of us, like, Ellie did this and Annie did this, but Annie's so embarrassing. She gets so drunk and blah, blah, blah. And then my sister, like, didn't drink till she was. Did not have a sip of alcohol till she was 21. And even when she turned 21, she, like, come on.
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Are you serious?
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Yes.
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She's by the books. That's why she probably made the best president ever of Kappa, right?
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Yeah. And people in the sorority. So, like, whenever there was, like, functions you had to go to, you had to, like, check in for attendance. And so Ellie would have to, like, mark everyone. So me and her look so similar. And there's 400 girls. And so people would come up to me and be like, ellie, I'm here. And I'd be like, gotcha. Literally no clue who they are. Not writing them down.
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Annie. I wish I had asked Ellie to come on, too. I would love her version of this. You have to, like. We have to bring her on. So. All right. So poor little Ellie. No, because I say. I was going to say to you before that, like, usually we say to people, to the guests that. Come on. If you don't want to say the Name of your sorority or even where you went to school, or you want a fake name, and I didn't even say that to you. Shame on me. But, like, exactly. That's the thing. I knew you would be, like, the
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best thing they ever did was give me a bid. They regret it, probably.
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Well, no, they don't regret it. There's no way they do. But do you? Because I think your sisters also must be so proud of you. Do you keep in touch with a lot of them?
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Yeah, I actually do. It's interesting because when I was in college, I had a friend group, and I still am friends with them, but. And we're close. But now since I've left college, I've expanded. There's, like, five girls from Ole Miss Kappas that live in LA and San Diego. And I just. I text them all the time. We hang out. One girl's gonna be my stylist for, like, the upcoming year, which is so fun. I don't know. It's just, like, fun and interesting how I've connected with these girls, like, post grad, that I literally never spoke to in the sorority when we were there together. But, like, they just feel like home. Because, I mean, really? Yes. Oh, yeah. Any girl in my sorority, if I called them, absolutely, they're, like, crying, like. Or if I needed something and I was in town, like, they would absolutely drop anything to have dinner or.
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Really?
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Oh, for sure.
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Yeah. I didn't feel like that. I definitely. And because I moved out of Texas so quickly after I graduated, I didn't keep in touch with as many. I mean, I did keep in touch with. With some of them close friends, but, like, I didn't have that feeling of camaraderie and, like, sisterhood, as much as it sounds like that. You did. Like, somebody that would. If they were a Kappa, period, they would drop everything. Would you drop anything for any Kappa or just Kappas that went to Ole Miss?
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Oh, Ole Miss Kappas. It's just. I feel okay. I mean, whenever people are like, oh, I'm a Kappa, I feel like it's cool. Like, some of my friends. Moms are Kappas. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, it just makes me like them more. I don't know why. Because Kappas are different. Every sorority is different at every school.
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B
Right.
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A
There's just something about it where I'm like, okay, like, what do you feel
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like Kappas are known for? Like, you know, if you had to sort of characterize them as something.
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At my school, we were really fun and, like, we didn't really take things that seriously.
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B
Were they party girls?
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We were absolutely party girls. Oh, yeah. But we weren't. There was, like, party girl sluts, and then there was party girls, and we were just party girls.
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There had to be some sluts in there. Give me a break.
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A
Oh, for sure. There's sluts everywhere.
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B
Yeah, exactly. I was. I was one of them. Yes. Okay.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. So that's really. I love that you could just. You guys would just, even if you weren't great friends, just drop.
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A
No, I'm telling you. So I just, you know, I just broke up with my boyfriend.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I want to, like, reach out to girls and whatever and make more friends and form deeper friendships. And there's this girl, her name's Kelly. She was an active Kappa with me, and she's a year older than me, and I just DM'd her on Instagram. I said, let's hang. Send her my number. And she was like, oh, my God.
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B
Yes.
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A
I can't wait. So we're making plans. It's like we haven't spoken since maybe Rush in college.
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Million percent? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, how you were saying, like, I'm not, like, I don't really like to be conformed to. They had this. I don't know. You didn't have social media whenever you were in your sorority, but they were crazy about what you posted and you weren't allowed to be on elevated surfaces.
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B
Right. I know that now.
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A
It's like, bad words. And so they had this account and they would comment. It was like an anonymous account, and they would comment like, blue hearts. And you would have to take it down.
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B
Now, I've heard about this a lot. There's. We've talked to a lot of girls that talk about this. Like, they would leave a little whatever emoji, and that means you're in trouble. Take it down.
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So one time they. They called me and they're like, can you be in charge of this anonymous account monitoring your pledge class on Snapchat? If you ever see anything, just respond. Blue hearts. I was like, okay. And I just like, I'm not about to be a narc.
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Did they know you at all? Why did they ever ask you to do that? What a joke.
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A
They were like, you love social media. Like, you should do this job.
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You really would give a. If someone was doing. You'd go. You'd be like, go, girl, Queen Slay.
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Literally eating.
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B
Exactly. Wait, so I asked you before, but also, like, how do you explain it? I'm not going to say like, Jeff Lewis, but, like, I don't know. I'm sure it doesn't come up that often on the radio, but in general, like, when people meet you, is it. You try to explain that experience? Because it does feel so far kind of from who you are.
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It does. And I feel like it almost. It dumbs me down a little bit. People that don't get it, like, oh, you went to a Southern party school and you're a sorority.
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I mean, honestly. Really?
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Yeah. Like, they're like, oh, your degree doesn't.
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Honey, anyone that meets you knows you're not dumb, but okay.
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You'd be surprised, though. Like, people just immediately like stereotypes. Like, if I say I went to NYU and I was in a sorority, I feel like it's a completely different picture someone would paint of me. And if I say I went to
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a party, Ole Miss has that attached to it. That's so interesting.
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A
Well, because it's also Mississippi.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I don't know. It's interesting.
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Yeah.
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So I don't really love the, like, stereotype of it, but I'm not. I mean, I don't really care. Like, that's why I love Paris Hilton so much, because I think she has such, like, a stereotype of being a dumb bitch. And she's not one.
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B
All right. She's brilliant.
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And so, like, I really respect that. And I love that type of lifestyle because, like, then no one takes you too seriously. And you're always impressing people.
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B
Yeah, I've said that about you. Like, he was talking one morning about your parents meeting your parents. And, like, he was just saying to them, like, I. I'm so impressed with her. Or, like, even to me, he's like, like, I admire Annie.
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A
That's so sweet.
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B
Yeah. I mean, I didn't say it, he did.
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A
Yeah. I'm like, thanks, Jen.
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B
True. Yeah. So, I mean, anything else you want to add here about your. Would you. Would you go to Ole Miss again?
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A
I've thought about that a lot, and I think I would. I loved it. Like, I really did. And I don't feel like it held me back from anything, but it was a cool experience. Like, it's a small town and we would. I'd be wasted on the side of the street, like, it's a party school. I cannot, like, emphasize that enough. Like, I would just be underage, wasted on the side of the street, like, getting myself into trouble. And the cop would be like, give me your phone. I'm calling you an Uber. Like, you're okay, and they would like you. It was like a no fails. Like, they would kind of give you a billion chances before you got in trouble. Like, one time I was at a bar and I was so upset, something happened with some random guy, and I was so drunk, and I just fell all the way down the stairs and I get to the bottom. So humiliating. And a cop calls me an Uber.
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B
And I get home, I cannot.
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A
I would go there again because it was just a safe place to, like, grow. Grow, like, as a person.
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B
Also, I could be wrong, but I feel like with you, if you guys ever have the pleasure of meeting Annie, it's like, it's. I don't feel like you could. Anyone could ever really get mad at you. Like, you're just. First of all, if anyone gets mad, I picture you just crying.
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A
I do that's what I'm saying. I can't do a confrontation.
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B
So then you just like. Which reminds me of my daughter, Rachel, who. I mean, she got her driver's license. She. Like, the first week, she hit someone. Not a tree.
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
Okay. No, she had a person, okay? And she. This. It was some man. He was pissed. He got out of his car. I guess it was a crosswalk. And she became so hysterical. And the cops came that they were all comforting Rachel. Like, I'm, like, talking to her. She can't breathe. She puts me on the phone with the cops. The cops are like, she's gonna be okay. I'm like, well, yeah, but is the man that she hit going to be okay? But you remind me of that. Like, you're like, there's just. It'd be hard to ever really be mad at you.
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A
No, my parents, when I was a kid, they'd be like, we're not gonna punish you because you punish yourself enough. Because I would just be, like, crying. My. I feel so bad. I just.
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B
Well, listen, I mean, just last question, but do you feel like Ole Miss is, though, the stereotype that people think that it is? And the sorority life there, Like, I mean, I think I picture it in such a. I went to a Southern school and I was in a sorority, but I feel like Ole Miss is, like, the ultimate. Do you think it lives up to that?
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A
I do. I mean, it's. It's so sick. And, like, the people you meet and, like, the Mississippi legacy of being a Katie and a Trident and, like, the fraternities and, like, the parties, like, it really is crazy. And, like, thinking back on it, I'm so, like, thankfully got to experience it. It was just, like, being in it. You don't realize, like, what you're in. Because Rush Tick Tock didn't blow up until, I think I was, like, a senior in college. And so I didn't realize, like, what I was a part of. And it's just so cool. Like, I love it. I love all the people I met, what I learned. Like, all the parties were so fun. The fraternity parties, like, the bars. And it was sick. I would go again in two seconds. The game day of it all.
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Good, good.
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And what's cool about the south is, like, everyone is like, sees you as family. Like, and so it was very welcoming and, like, home immediately.
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B
Would you recommend it? Like, there are to our listeners? There are. I'm sure there are girls listening that are still in high school and, you know, thinking about which school to go to and. And about Greek life. Would you recommend it to, let's say, girls here on the East Coast?
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I would recommend it to anyone that asked me where they should go to college. Like, it is so fun and I learned so much and I'm very much mentality because I was a broadcast journalism major and you get out what you put in. So, like, you don't necessarily need to get A's, but you need to know, like, what your end goal at the end of college is and you're going to be successful. So my goal was networking and like social media and reality TV and production and whatever. And so I did internships that could get me there. So then I didn't necessarily need to take my classes as serious. So I did like the school news station and then my sororities. I was able to have fun and like, not worry about getting all A's. I didn't need all these. You think Jeff Lewis knows my gpa?
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B
No matter. Don't. I don't. But to those high school girls listening, get all A's if you get. You don't have to.
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A
Depends on what you want to do. If you want to be an accountant, you want to be a doctor. Yeah.
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B
You do? Yes.
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A
But like, I think that's what also a thing like with people that. Because I'm like, oh, I partied a lot in college. Like, well, what did you learn? I'm like, I worked my ass off.
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B
You do learn a lot being a story also. I mean, I think that so much of. Not all. Not every career choice, but so many careers are about being able to connect with people. Right. And I feel like every job I ever had, and I had a lot of them when I was your age, I was always switching jobs, but I was very easy for me to get jobs because I'm. I like that process of interviewing, like, it was like rush. Like, I like having my personality on and like connecting with people and then, you know, being in the jobs I was. I always had friends, whatever job it was. And I always was like kind of. I don't mean this in an obnoxious way, but, but. But kind of loved. And I was really never good at my job.
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A
But you're a personality hire.
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B
It was a personality hire. And I feel like that's something maybe that when you're in a sorority, that's a great, you know, to be able to learn how to get along specifically with, you know, other women. And I feel like those are. Those are lessons that you take with you.
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A
No, I think networking is the secret to success? Like, just. Yeah, but also nurturing those relationships. Like, oh, you're in college and your dad knows someone that does what you want to do. You email them once and you move on. No, like, you have to call them, get to know them, let them in on your life and, like, become their friend. Have them see you as their own kid. Like, you need to really invest in relationships. And then people want to help you and see you. And it's not just using people. Like, you're growing. That's how you enhance your life. You learn about people that are successful and they teach you things and you teach them and whatever.
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B
You are very wise, my girl.
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A
It's fun.
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B
Yeah. I love you. I love you for coming on. We're gonna have you on again. Please. Maybe with your sister.
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A
Yeah, actually she would. She so should.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Oh, wait, can I shout out my new YouTube channel?
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B
Yes.
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A
I dropped my first vlog today because I broke up with my boyfriend like a week ago and I had my first, like, single girl weekend. And so I, like, went shopping and parties and just trying to keep my mind off things. So I was dating him for like four years. So it's been pretty dark.
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B
How was it?
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A
It was so fun. I. Yeah, I'm trying to stay sober, but then I ended up getting drunk because Jeff and Shane were like, you should numb it. And I'm like, no, it didn't numb it. I sobbed. And so anyways, run a journey and I'm trying to vlog about it and make it fun so I can distract myself. So subscribe. What is it called?
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B
Annie.
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A
My YouTube is Annie Sharp Slay. And my Instagram and TikTok is just Annie Sharp underscore.
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B
Okay. All right, you guys. So please subscribe. You will love every second of it. See you soon. Bye, honey.
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A
Bye.
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