Dirty Rush: In Their Own Words… Sorority Lingo Explained

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod: "Dirty Rush: In Their Own Words… Sorority Lingo Explained"

Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Date: October 11, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode brings a lively, candid discussion between multiple generations of sorority sisters as they swap stories from their college days, decode unique sorority lingo, and reflect on how sisterhood, technology, society, and rules have evolved. With voices spanning from the "grandma" generation to recent grads, they explore issues like communication (pre-cell phones!), shifting gender norms in Greek housing, the impact of social media on "rush", and time-honored traditions—some sweet, some cringeworthy. The hosts aim to strip away the TikTok gloss and reveal the real, sometimes messy truth behind sorority life, inviting listeners to both reminisce and rethink.

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Generational Perspectives on Sorority Life & Lingo

Introduction to the Panel

• Four generations at the table: "There are four of us here talking about sororities. Different times, different generations. Young, old. I was in a—we’re middle because..." (Amy, 02:21)
• Playful ribbing over who's the "grandma" or "middle generation" in the group.
• "Your mom is the whatever...the gigi...We're the grandmas." (Jennifer Kessler, 02:43)

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Callbacks to the Pre-Cell Era: Communication & Technology

• Landlines and Pay Phones:
  • "Back in the day, in the 90s...you had a landline in your room? Some people did. How we communicated was through these pay phones." (Amy, 02:50)
  • "You'd get on the intercom and you would say, Nikki04 or Nikki O2." (Amy, 03:33)
  • "You had to use a quarter or, like, your dad's calling card if you wanted to call out." (Amy, 03:45)
• Roommate Miscommunications:
  • "My roommate Karen said, so and so called...really Eddie called, but she said Teddy. And...I called Teddy. It was so...And I still to this day, 30 years later, I'm like, I called Teddy." (Amy, 05:56)
• Transition to Computers:
  • "We didn't even have computers. We had brother word processors that were like huge suitcases." (Jennifer Kessler, 05:48)
  • "I had an Apple 2e...you would put the disk in, save your stuff...Some people maybe had a printer, but I had to take it down and get it printed. But I had the advantage because I could edit and make changes." (Amy, 06:49)
• Typewriter Fails:
  • "If you were running late or you had to cancel...how would you get a hold of someone? You just didn’t. You just couldn’t." (Gia Giudice, 07:23)
• Beepers and Pagers:
  • "I had a pager, a beeper in high school..." (Jennifer Kessler, 07:34)
  • "What's a pager?" (Gia Giudice, 07:42)

Memorable Quote:

"Crazier thing is how we ever met up with the fraternity boys. So you would basically hope for the best."
— Amy (07:56)

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The Culture & Clicks of Sisterhood

• Pledge Class Sizes & Cliquishness:
  • "How many people were in your pledge class? 66." (Jennifer Kessler, 09:10)
  • "I think it depends on school. I think it's still very clicky. There's still...But there's friendships between sororities..." (Gia Giudice, 09:24)
  • "If you were only friends with girls in different sororities from your own...that was almost a red flag." (Gia Giudice, 09:50)
• Inter-Sorority Friendships:
  • "I have a lot of good friends that were pi phis, DGs, couple tried outs, maybe a coyote. That’s it." (Amy, 10:04)
  • "Why? Because the lower tier didn’t speak to you?" (Jennifer Kessler, 10:12)
• Fraternity Ties Persist:
  • "All the same sororities hang out with all the same fraternities right." (Gia Giudice, 10:19)

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Sorority Traditions: Then & Now

Pinnings, Candlelighting & Engagements

• Old School Romances:
  • "Did they ever have pinnings?" (Jennifer Kessler, 13:53)
  • "I had a pinning with my college boyfriend." (Gia Giudice, 13:59)
  • "Are you still attached? No, sadly." (Jennifer Kessler and Gia Giudice, 14:01)
  • "At her school, there was an extraordinary amount of couples her age that married each other that are still married and still, like, happy in quotes." (Amy, 14:12)
• Candlelighting Rituals:
  • "We’d sit in a circle and there’d be a lit candle, and it was very sacred...somebody was now engaged...she blew out the candle and it went crazy..." (Lily, 14:43)

Notable Moment:

"Rachel, if I find out that you’re engaged to be engaged to be engaged to be engaged, you’re dead. Okay."
— Lily (14:51)

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Boys in the Sorority Houses

• Evolving Rules:
  • "We actually were allowed to have boys...for lunch. You could have boys upstairs till 10." (Amy, 15:20)
  • "You had to shout out, man on. Which meant there’s a man on the floor." (Amy, 15:52)
  • "Nikki, you have a collar on two...so you knew it was a boy." (Amy, 16:08)
• Sneaky Sleepovers:
  • "Could you have boys in your bedrooms? ...Yes" (Amy & Gia Giudice, 18:19-18:23)
  • "Everyone else...was pretty mad at us because we had a very young house mom who let a lot of things [happen]...She was 25...and started being the house mom. She was really young." (Gia Giudice, 18:30)
  • "Our house mom was definitely a grandma..." (Amy, 19:06)

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House Life, Staff & Traditions

• Meal Service (Hashers):
  • "The hasher was the guy that was...doing the dishes..." (Amy, 23:04)
  • "On Mondays, you had formal dinner...he would clear your plate like a server." (Amy, 23:09)
  • "My dad was a hasher, and my mom was in the sorority, and that's how they met and got married." (Amy, 23:19)
• Unique Events:
  • "Did you guys have father daughter dances and mother daughter luncheon? No." (Jennifer Kessler & Lily, 23:38)
  • "So you called it role model weekend...usually people would bring their moms or their dads." (Gia Giudice, 23:58)
  • "We had this thing where it was bid day, and then a few weeks later...there would be a tea and crumpets type of vibe in the courtyard. And I think moms came, but I think maybe dads came...they would present the pledges..." (Amy, 25:23)
  • "This is still a thing with us, too. Like your mom and dad come and watch you get presented..." (Gia Giudice, 25:43)

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Social Media & Modern Rush

• Social Media Presence as Resume:
  • "You have to have a social media following...literally take days of changing outfits and posing...to build a social media almost campaign." (Jennifer Kessler, 26:30)
  • "If you only have five posts and they're kind of random, they're like, who is this girl? Where are her friends?" (Gia Giudice, 26:49)
  • "If you have...a few thousand followers and...people are commenting on each post...that bodes well." (Gia Giudice, 26:58)
• Pushback Against Social Pressure:
  • "I think it would be the opposite. Like, I would want the girl that has no social media. I’d be like, I want her. She seems cool girl. She’s mysterious." (Amy, 27:13)
  • "When it comes to boys, she wants to make sure that they're cool. When it comes to girls, they should be mysterious." (Lily, 27:26)

Quote:

"We watch these documentaries and you watch TikTok and you see all these things about Rush...but they're all curated. We're trying hard to like really answer your questions."
— Amy (29:16)

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The Stress of Rush for Moms

• "Let me tell you, my niece went through rush and I didn't sleep for a week. I think...the moms these days are stressing more than the kid." (Amy, 27:39)
• "On bid day, they just couldn't take it anymore. And they're just following the Find My Phone app to see where she's going...'Her phone is at this sorority.' And I go, yeah, you guys, she's in. Like, no one's taking her phone to the house without her." (Amy, 28:06)

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Closing Thoughts & Lingo Love

• Changing Terms: Uber, Tinder, ghosting, breadcrumbs—modern lingo adds to the sorority language mix (Jennifer Kessler, 29:58)
• "I don't care and my kids can roll their eyes. I'm still saying, is that your big sister?" (Lily, 30:04)
• "Just by the very fact that we use the word lingo makes us back in time." (Amy, 30:08)
• "I think you guys are great and I love hearing your stories about your typewriters and your white out and your..." (Gia Giudice, 30:21)

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• "Crazier thing is how we ever met up with the fraternity boys. So you would basically hope for the best." — Amy (07:56)
• "If you were only friends with girls in different sororities from your own...that's a red flag." — Gia Giudice (09:50)
• "Rachel, if I find out that you’re engaged to be engaged to be engaged to be engaged, you’re dead. Okay." — Lily (14:51)
• "Man on. That's a big lingo thing." — Lily (15:49)
• “I think it would be the opposite. Like, I would want the girl that has no social media. I'd be like, I want her. She seems cool girl. She's mysterious.” — Amy (27:13)
• "We watch these documentaries and you watch TikTok...but they're all curated. We're trying hard to like really answer your questions." — Amy (29:16)

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Key Timestamps for Segments

• Pre-cell phone communication & nostalgia: 02:50–07:42
• Sorority/Fraternity socializing, sisterhood, cliques: 07:56–10:19
• Old school romance rituals, pinnings, candlelightings: 13:50–14:50
• Rules around boys, “man on” lingo, house moms: 15:20–19:38
• Meal service, “hashers,” and traditions: 23:03–23:38
• Parental events & “role model” weekend: 23:44–25:56
• Modern rush, social media, pressure: 26:10–27:36
• Rushees, mothers & the stress: 27:39–28:54
• Reflections on changing language, lingo: 29:48–30:26

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Tone, Language & Final Impression

The group’s tone is self-deprecating, affectionate, and opens a window into their unfiltered feelings about Greek life—balancing nostalgia with eye rolls and social critique. The episode delivers both warmth and wit, pulling back the curtain on the universal, ever-changing nature of sorority experiences. The hosts are honest about the downsides (cliques, pressure, and parental stress) while celebrating the enduring bonds of sisterhood.

For listeners new to sorority life or those reminiscing, this episode is a candid crash course infused with real stories and hard truths—no TikTok gloss attached.

Transcript

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[Gia Giudice]

Welcome to Dirty Rush. The truth about Sorority Life with your hosts, me, Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent and Jennifer Kessler.

[Lily]

All right, guys, so here we are. Here we're back talking to. There are four of us here talking about sororities. Different times, different generations. Young, old. I was in a We're middle because.

[Amy]

Like I think my mom is the grandma. Now we're middle and then Lily is young.

[Lily]

You keep telling yourself, I think you're wrong.

[Jennifer Kessler]

I think your mom is the whatever the gigi. Whatever your thing is, Lily. The gigi.

[Lily]

Right.

[Jennifer Kessler]

We're the grandmas.

[Amy]

So, Jen, give us the next lingo. But I wanted to talk about something that Nikki brought up in our last episode, which was back in the day, in the 90s. And we'll see what Lily thinks of this. You had a landline in your room? Some people did. How we communicated was through these pay phones. And so at Kappa, we had these two phones. Now, in our era, it would just ring. And you hoped someone would answer it. In my mom's era, pledges were assigned time.

[Jennifer Kessler]

That's hazing, Lily. That's hazing, right?

[Amy]

No. So to answer so I can remember the phone ringing. You know this pay phone, an old timey, like, pay phone, you'd answer it and they would say, this is, you know, Bob, can I talk to Nikki? And then you'd get on the intercom and you would say, Nikki04 or Nikki O2.

[Lily]

And those were like house phones.

[Amy]

You had to use a quarter or like your dad's calling card if you wanted to call out. Now, you might have a phone in your room, but there would be no way to really know the number. Although I have this vague memory of a Greek phone book. Nikki, do you have any memory of some sort of a phone book that had everyone's landline?

[Jennifer Kessler]

Like a Thomas Guide or what do we call? Yellow Pages, maybe?

[Lily]

No, I mean, I just remember a big phone with lights. Like there are all different lines and lights would be blinking.

[Jennifer Kessler]

That's from the movie Love Story back in the day, that. You're in the 50s on that one.

[Amy]

That's fancy, Jen. We had a payphone, like an actual. Hanging on the wall, payphone two.

[Jennifer Kessler]

With a booth that you would go into.

[Amy]

Correct. And then there was a booth. Yeah. So if you. And if you were upstairs and you would say Nikki04, you'd have to wait for Nikki to pick it up downstairs, then you would hang up and then she could, like, shut the pay phone door downstairs and have.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Did we use Cor.

[Amy]

And they were actually. Yeah.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Or did we have credit cards or collect calls? Like, we're in jail.

[Sophie Cunningham]

All of it.

[Amy]

We had all that stuff.

[Lily]

Many dorms. I remember that.

[Gia Giudice]

What if someone was hogging it? Like, Nikki's on the phone with her long distance boyfriend. I had one freshman year and she's hogging it. What do you guys do?

[Amy]

We also had phones in our room. So you would have a landline with an answering machine with a cassette tape in it. So you would have a landline and, like, you and your roommate would share the landline, and you would come in and you'd hit, oh, we got three messages and hit play. Oh, my God. And your roommate. I had this overwhelming memory come back to me the other day. Your roommate would totally mess up the call. So I come back into the room and my roommate Karen said, so and so called. And I said, okay. Like, it was really random. Like, she basically said, like, Teddy called. So I call back this guy Teddy, and it was this awkward, weird conversation because really, Eddie called, but she said, teddy. And it was so. And I still to this day, 30 years later, I'm like, I called Teddy.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Like, Lily, we didn't even have computers. We had brother word processors that were like huge suitcases. Do you remember this, Amy? We would sit up.

[Amy]

Yeah, I actually had a computer. I was kind of advanced.

[Lily]

I had a computer.

[Jennifer Kessler]

And you were very fancy because I.

[Amy]

Had a. I had a computer. What? That had discs. And I would take disc down to this thing on Bancroft and print out my papers. Floppy disks.

[Gia Giudice]

I can't even think about what that looks like. I can't even.

[Lily]

Have you ever heard of a typewriter, Lily?

[Amy]

Yes. Yes.

[Jennifer Kessler]

But you guys didn't use typewriters.

[Lily]

We did.

[Amy]

Some people sure did. They sure did, Jen.

[Gia Giudice]

You use it for what?

[Lily]

Our.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Mine was almost a type.

[Amy]

Typewriter even.

[Lily]

And I mean, so. I mean, it was close there in terms of, like, computers starting to use computers for papers. But like, I'm talking about, like, I. When I had a big paper, even in college, if I was. I would take it. I would write it out. Take it to my mother, she was a secretary, she would type out the paper so I could turn it in. Yeah, totally.

[Amy]

No, there was only a few of us that had computers. So I had this Apple 2e and it would be this big monitor, and then there was a computer. And then you would put the disk in, save your stuff onto this disk. And then some people maybe had a printer, but I had to take it down and get it printed. And then I would turn my paper in. But I had the advantage because I could edit and make changes. Whereas poor Nikki, the brother only had, like, a small screen. So if you. If you printed that, remember, white out.

[Lily]

You have to.

[Gia Giudice]

When you make a mistake and you.

[Lily]

Were typing, you have to, like, white out it and then blow on it so you can go over it.

[Gia Giudice]

I think about this all the time. Like, what if. If you were running late or you had to cancel on something, how would you get a hold of someone you Just didn't. You just couldn't.

[Jennifer Kessler]

I had a pager, a beeper in high school, but I don't know. Amy did. We have one.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But does it.

[Amy]

No.

[Gia Giudice]

What's a pager? What does that do? Is that connected to your landlord?

[Jennifer Kessler]

Well, the other person had to have a beeper too. So if Amy didn't have a beeper and I had a beeper and I was beeping, she wouldn't get it. So I guess we were maybe never late or we just. I don't know.

[Amy]

Crazier thing is how we ever met up with the fraternity boys. So you would basically hope for the best. So you would go with your sorority sisters to Henry's or Kips or Raleigh's or some other bears lair, and you would just hope for the best. You would hope that the guy you kind of had a crush on or the couple guys would be there too. And you would just sort of hope now maybe you would landline to landline. So you might call Mike at SAE and be like, hey, you guys going down the hill? And then you would just hope for the best.

[Jennifer Kessler]

But here's the. I mean, look, here's the reality of it is Greek life is multi generational, despite the different lingo, despite the different electronics we all had. Despite. I mean, the truth is, is it's. It's an institution that has spanned many, many, many decades.

[Amy]

Right.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Even though things have changed with the world. So going back to that kind of sisterhood concept or word that we used. But it's interesting that that almost doesn't translate on as deep of a level. Right. Like, was it clickier in later years, would you say? Like, how many people were in your pledge class? 66. Oh, yeah.

[Amy]

I mean, we had 30 maybe.

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

I mean, I think it depends on school. I think it's still very clicky. I think there's still. But there's. There's friendships between sororities. Like my freshman year roommate. Because of who your roommates are freshman year, who you meet freshman year. I think the later rush at different schools, it makes it so you have a lot of different friends in your stories. But totally there's still a clicky aspect, but it's not uncommon. It was almost a. If you were only friends with girls in different sororities from your own, and those were your main best friends, that was almost. That's a red flag.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Well, no different than somebody who doesn't have friends from their past and they're only friends within the chapter that they're existing in.

[Gia Giudice]

Right. Right. That kind of thing.

[Amy]

But I think it's interesting to say, like I have a lot of good friends that were pie fis, DGs, couple tried outs, maybe a coyote. That's it.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Why? Because the lower tier didn't speak to you?

[Amy]

Tag Amy, I'm just telling the truth. This is a truthful place that still.

[Gia Giudice]

Rings very true because all the same sororities hang out with all the same fraternities right.

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[Amy]

U n D.

[Lily]

I always say this. It's a very funny thing to Texas. At University of Texas, let me assure you that Jewish people are a minority.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Oh, big time. Big time.

[Lily]

When I went to University of Texas, it felt like everybody in Texas was Jewish, because that's exactly I. Everybody I knew was either in dbt, Sammy, ae, fire, sdt. And that's just how we rolled. And so every party ever, so. So it. You know, I didn't feel. I feel like sometimes even growing up in Texas, I felt more Jewish there. I know it sounds weird, but because everyone I knew, I was always surrounded by Jewish people.

[Jennifer Kessler]

I have a question on lingo Lily, to ask you. As I was looking at Jen wondering if she's married to her college boyfriend or not.

[Lily]

Hell no.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Okay, just checking, because a lot of my friends are.

[Amy]

Lily.

[Gia Giudice]

Did they.

[Jennifer Kessler]

This is gonna really age me. It's gonna sound super old fashioned. Did they ever have pinnings?

[Gia Giudice]

I had a pinning with my college boyfriend.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Are you still pinned?

[Gia Giudice]

Are you still attached? No, sadly.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Oh, no.

[Amy]

Thanks for bringing that up, Nikki. Thanks for bringing that up.

[Gia Giudice]

No, no, no, we're good.

[Sophie Cunningham]

We're good.

[Amy]

Here's something that's interesting about Nikki's era. At her school, there was an extraordinary amount of couples her age that married each other that are still married.

[Gia Giudice]

That's amazing.

[Amy]

Very, very weird. I know some like. Like, I could name 10 couples from Nikki's class and maybe the class below class above that married each other and are still married and still, like, happy in quotes.

[Lily]

Do you guys have candlelighting? So we'd sit in a circle and there'd be a lit candle, and it was very sacred.

[Jennifer Kessler]

And you were wearing all white.

[Lily]

You were all white. And you passed the candle around and it was like. It was an engagement. Somebody was now engaged to be engaged to. The girl had been, I guess, pinned, and she blew out the candle and it went crazy. It's just so funny. Like, Rachel, if I find out that you're engaged to be engaged to be engaged to be engaged, you're dead. Okay.

[Gia Giudice]

How old is Rachel?

[Jennifer Kessler]

She's 23 and she's in New York.

[Lily]

He was New York? Yeah. And I'm like, don't even think about it, sweetheart.

[Amy]

I think it's interesting to talk about boys in the sorority. So, Lily, Nikki and I will tell you about boys in our sorority, and then you tell us what it's like now we actually were allowed to have boys, which was kind of like, oh, they're allowed to have boys. We're allowed to have boys for lunch. You could have boys upstairs till 10.

[Jennifer Kessler]

No, you couldn't.

[Amy]

Yeah, we could.

[Jennifer Kessler]

No, we could not.

[Amy]

We could. You would go up. They could go upstairs till 10pm at night and you would go onto the floor and you would say, man on.

[Lily]

Man on. That's a big lingo thing.

[Amy]

Man on. Wait, what is that Is a boy in the hallway. So, like, don't come out of your room in a towel or don't come out of the bathroom. You had to shout out, man on. Which meant there's a man on the floor.

[Jennifer Kessler]

I'm vaguely. I'm menopause.

[Lily]

Hold on.

[Amy]

It's fine.

[Lily]

You're fine.

[Amy]

Vaguely remembering this and that at 10, no boys. And the other thing that was interesting was when a boy. Okay, so we had a front door and you'd ring the doorbell and we called it a foyer. I know some people say foyer, but it was called a foyer. And the boy or your guest would come in. So say I go to the front door, open the door, and a boy is there for Nikki. I would get on the intercom and say, nikki, you have a collar on too. So that way she knew it was a boy. If it was her friend from PI Fi. I would say, nikki, you have a guest on to. That way she knew she could, like, run down looking like, you know, doo doo, and then take the girl back up or eat lunch or whatever. So that way there was an indicator on the intercom. You're right if it was a, you know, a girl or a boy. And people would pop over. There also was like. All of a sudden a boy would just, like, ring the door and they'd be like, you have a collar on too. And you'd be like, who is it? And then it would be some friend.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Or could they sleep over?

[Amy]

No, boys could not sleep over. They had to leave at 10.

[Lily]

I think our boys can move past the foyer. Foyer. I think that there was a room right there, like a living room that they can go into, maybe into the dining room, but I don't remember them.

[Amy]

So we had a living room, a TV room, and a date room. It was called the date room. I think we've talked about this on this show before now. Weirdly, I don't remember anyone, like, really using the date room. It was always empty.

[Jennifer Kessler]

We used to watch in My Time, Beverly Hills 9021, TV Room, General Hospital, Melrose Place. Where was the.

[Amy]

Where was it if you were in the TV room and you looked out those doors towards the mailboxes? The date room was that fancy room right near the mailbox room.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Oh yeah, I remember that.

[Gia Giudice]

A date room.

[Amy]

And you could have a boy for lunch. I think you could have a boy for dinner. Not on Mondays. No. Breakfast. If a boy strolled in for breakfast.

[Lily]

I can't believe you. You have such a good memory.

[Jennifer Kessler]

You really. You really do.

[Amy]

I don't know if I'm accurate, but I'm do the best I can.

[Gia Giudice]

You were allowed to have boys for lunch and dinner. Breakfast too was like, technically.

[Amy]

Could you have boys in your bedrooms?

[Gia Giudice]

Yes.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Do they sleep over?

[Gia Giudice]

But yes. But this.

[Amy]

No. They could sleep over. Or you snuck them over everyone else.

[Gia Giudice]

Like all the other. And this was a real thing. Like at my school, it was really. Everyone was pretty mad at us because we had a very young house mom who let a lot of things. A lot of house sister. Yeah, she. She was 25, like right out of college and started being her house mom. And she was really young.

[Amy]

Like we. Why would she even want that job?

[Gia Giudice]

I think, I mean like free rent money and that, living in la and she was doing other things.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Was she in your sorority?

[Gia Giudice]

She went to Syracuse, but she was like a friend. I don't know. We loved her.

[Amy]

Our house mom was definitely a grandma and somebody.

[Lily]

Aunt Millie or something.

[Jennifer Kessler]

We had Marge.

[Gia Giudice]

Everyone else. Other. Every other house had that, but we had the young house mom so we could kind of. I don't know. She didn't care.

[Amy]

We.

[Lily]

We had.

[Amy]

I almost always barely ever saw the house mom. She would like hop out of that apartment once in a blue moon. But she was definitely more like a grandma. And she had this room. It was like she had a little apartment within the sorority house.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jennifer Kessler]

She ate in her room, I think too, didn't she?

[Amy]

So she never came down for like meals. She probably was like, what am I doing with these crazy.

[Gia Giudice]

Ours would hang out.

[Amy]

We would.

[Gia Giudice]

But like, we would. I mean, we had a courtyard and we would. People would like smoke pot in the courtyard.

[Amy]

Oh, no.

[Gia Giudice]

And like play beer pong, but they.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Can'T use the word rush.

[Lily]

Right.

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[Amy]

U n D. Nikki do you remember how we got in trouble? Like the whole house was in trouble in in not in a like you're busted, but like almost in an embarrassing way because people would take their lunch upstairs, eat their lunch and put their dishes outside their door like we were at a hotel and just expect somebody to come pick up their their plates. And then also there would be like somebody would have 14 cups in their Room. They'd, like, take their cups upstairs. We had one hasher, but back in the day.

[Jennifer Kessler]

What's a hasher?

[Amy]

The hasher was the guy that was.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Doing the dishes, and he worked at a fraternity, right?

[Lily]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Or he was like a guy making money. On Mondays, you had formal dinner. So you would sit, and I think he would clear your plate like a server. But back in the day, there would be like, 10 hashers, and they. My dad was a hasher, and my mom was in the sorority, and that's how they met and got married. They came from the law school, and they would. I think they had formal dinner, like, many nights a week. So they were always, like, serving and clearing. Like, you were at, like, a four, five star restaurant. Crazy.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Lily, did you guys have father daughter dances and mother daughter luncheon? No.

[Amy]

What?

[Gia Giudice]

No, you had. Oh, here's another lingo. We could not. We no longer had mom's weekend, which I think this is for the best because I had a friend who lost her mom.

[Jennifer Kessler]

What if you have two dads?

[Gia Giudice]

Right? So you called it role model weekend. And you could bring. You know, usually people would bring their moms or their dads.

[Jennifer Kessler]

I like that.

[Amy]

You didn't have, like, a father daughter dinner auction dance?

[Lily]

My dad didn't come if he did.

[Gia Giudice]

No, no one did that.

[Amy]

What?

[Lily]

What?

[Sophie Cunningham]

What?

[Gia Giudice]

Your father would fly in just for this dance?

[Amy]

Yes.

[Jennifer Kessler]

We have pictures with, like, the. For sure printed pictures. And.

[Amy]

And it was like a big fundraiser too. There was like a big auction, and they would, like, auction off items, and then all the dads would, like, bid on them.

[Lily]

We had, like, Texas OU weekend.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Oh, they're going this weekend, Jen.

[Amy]

It's the.

[Jennifer Kessler]

It's this weekend.

[Gia Giudice]

It's still a thing tomorrow.

[Jennifer Kessler]

First overnight.

[Lily]

Oh, my God. It's huge. Texas are used a big game this weekend.

[Gia Giudice]

This is so fun. I never knew about the father daughter thing.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Well, not only that, we do moms. Mom. There's parents weekend, and there's mom's weekend.

[Amy]

And there's dad's weekend, and parents came to. I cannot remember what it was called. There was bid day presents. Was it called presents?

[Jennifer Kessler]

They do that still.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Mm.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Before you get your bid. At least in the south or Texas, Jen. Literally, the moms and the grandmas are waiting at the hotel for the call, and they all are a part of that bid day.

[Amy]

And we had this thing where it was bid day, and then a few weeks later, you would get dressed up in, like, more of a. Like a sundressy type dress, and there would be Sort of like a tea and crumpets type of vibe in the courtyard. And I think moms came, but I think maybe dads came, I don't know. And they would, like, present the pledges, but definitely, like, moms were there.

[Lily]

My mom wasn't. I don't remember her.

[Gia Giudice]

This is. This is still a thing with us, too. Like your mom and your mom and dad come and watch you. Yeah. Get presented for presents.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

And it's like. And it's after initiation, you have to be initiated. So there's. It's, you know, like within the first.

[Lily]

Two months, it's so different school to school, because I didn't do that for Rachel either. I don't remember how. I mean, I was there for her. There was a red dress charity and there's parents weekend, but there wasn't. I don't remember any of that.

[Amy]

Was there any other lingo we haven't gotten to today?

[Lily]

Oh, let's see. We talked about house mother just now.

[Jennifer Kessler]

We did hometown pro and con.

[Lily]

Hometown con. Nice. We talked about PR risk, which we didn't have it back in the day, but.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah, I. I can't tell, like, is it good or bad to be, like, popular on social media?

[Gia Giudice]

I think it depends on what you post on social media.

[Jennifer Kessler]

But, Lily, I was told with my friends, daughters that were going through rush, that you have to have a social media following. So I had many friends, daughters, who had to, like, literally take days of changing outfits and posing and this not to, like, build a social media almost campaign.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. Because if you only have, like five posts and they're kind of random, they're like, who is this girl? Where are her friends?

[Jennifer Kessler]

And no love on your post.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. But if you have.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Like, if you have, like, a few thousand followers and, you know, people are like 20 to 50 or whatever, people are commenting on each post and liking them, then it's. Yeah, I mean, that's. That. That bodes well for sure. If there's not a lot, there's not a lot to look at.

[Amy]

Yeah, I see. I think it would be the opposite. Like, I would want the girl that has no social media. I'd be like, I want her. She seems cool girl. She's mysterious.

[Gia Giudice]

Amy, you're going against your.

[Lily]

I feel like you're going against.

[Amy]

I'm an anomaly. I'm anonymous.

[Lily]

Well, when it comes to boys, she wants to make sure that they're cool. When it comes to girls, they should be mysterious.

[Amy]

They really need to be top.

[Lily]

There you go.

[Amy]

I'm Going to hang out with them.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Amy, it's probably good you didn't have a daughter that went through rush because.

[Amy]

Let me tell you, my niece went through rush and I didn't sleep for a week. And this is a thing. We will talk about this in a future episode because it is universal that I think the moms these days are stressing more than the kid. Like, I had a friend whose daughter just went through and she ended up in a top house. It went great.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Did she have a rush coach?

[Lily]

No, we talked about that a few weeks ago that.

[Amy]

We've talked about that, and it's still sort of a debate. But no, she just did her thing. She got a top house. But the poor mom who's like one of my best friends was just sick all week. It's just so stressful. And then finally on bid day, they just couldn't take it anymore. And they're just following the Find My Phone app to see where she's going, because obviously she's too busy to call. And they're just like, her phone is at this sorority. And I go, yeah, you guys, she's in. Like, no one's taking her phone to the house without her.

[Jennifer Kessler]

But that was the school where my friend's daughter did not get a house.

[Amy]

Yeah, I mean, we can shout it out. Cal Poly is a rough rush now.

[Jennifer Kessler]

So is San Diego State. I mean, it's everywhere.

[Amy]

San Diego State, I heard, is, like, one of the worst.

[Gia Giudice]

It's so rough. Yeah, Cal Poly is super rough.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Boulder.

[Jennifer Kessler]

It happened to a friend of mine's daughter.

[Lily]

Happened to a friend of mine, too, this year. She didn't get in. And then she got in on continuous open.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Lily]

So she didn't get in. And then my other friend, there's like, two of my best friends. So my other friend's daughter did get into her top whatever. Then this friend, the daughter, didn't get in anywhere and then got in on whatever that's called.

[Amy]

COB is way bigger now than it was. All right, Jen. Well, I think we're out of time. Sorry to be the producer, but I think we're out of time, but we'll continue this. And also, I think that for people listening, like, it is our goal, even though we sometimes sound icky, I don't know what to say to really make it truthful for people listening. Because we watch these documentaries and you watch TikTok and you see all these things about Rush out in the, you know, universe now, but they're all curated where we're trying hard to like really answer your questions. So send us your questions and your criticism. We will read the, you know, we will read the good and the bad.

[Lily]

Amen, you guys. Thank you so much. This was really, I have to say, it's really. It makes me feel really old this the topic of lingo, but I'm going, okay. We still love you, Lily.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Look at all these words like uber Tinder ways, ghosting, breadcrumbs. I mean, it's.

[Amy]

There's one.

[Lily]

I don't care and my kids can roll their eyes. I'm still saying, is that your big sister?

[Amy]

Yeah, for sure. I think we're all just calling it lingo. I think just by the very fact that we use the word lingo makes us back in time.

[Jennifer Kessler]

Lily's rolling her eyes at us.

[Gia Giudice]

I think you guys are great and I love hearing your stories about your typewriters and your white out and your.

[Lily]

Okay, that's enough, Lily. Okay, See you guys soon. Bye.

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[Amy]

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[Lily]

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[Amy]

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[Lily]

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[Amy]

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