Dirty Rush: It’s Getting Hot in Here; I Can’t Believe We Are Answering These Questions

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod – "Dirty Rush: It’s Getting Hot in Here; I Can’t Believe We Are Answering These Questions"

Episode Air Date: February 7, 2026
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Featured host: Gia Giudice (Dirty Rush segment)
Format Note: This episode features a special segment called "Dirty Rush," centered around Gia Giudice and friends sharing unfiltered stories and secrets about sorority life.

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Episode Overview

This lively "Dirty Rush" edition is all about the candid, messy, and hilarious realities of life in college sororities. Gia Giudice, joined by several fellow sorority alums, dives into the questions listeners are too embarrassed to ask—ranging from shower parties and bathroom etiquette to dating drama, house politics, and the infamous state of fraternity houses. The conversation is a wild ride packed with personal anecdotes, inside jokes, and some pretty unfiltered truths, all delivered in the signature, no-holds-barred tone of the Two Ts In A Pod universe.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sorority House Bathrooms & Showering (03:24–05:55)

• Main Question: Is it weird to share showers and bathrooms in a sorority house?
• Insights:
  • Most sorority houses have individual stalls, so it’s not "weird" or uncomfortable.
  • Shower parties are a real thing—girls often plan to shower together, play music, and "get ready for the same parties" as a group (04:02).
  • Fraternity houses, by contrast, often have communal, open showers, which everyone agrees are "disgusting."
  • The consensus: girls are less fazed by group bathroom time than guys, and most just "go with it."

Notable Quotes:

• “At least in my house we had shower parties. So you’d, like, purposely time when you were gonna shower so that one person would have a speaker and everyone would be hanging out in the bathroom showering at the exact same time.” – Sorority Member 1 (04:02)
• “But in the fraternity houses, they had just shower heads in like a huge shower room…which is disgusting.” – Sorority Member 2 (04:42)

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2. Dating Etiquette & "Girl Code" (06:00–09:51)

• Main Question: Is it acceptable to date someone a sorority sister has dated?
• Insights:
  • Resounding "no"—dating the same person as a sorority sister is both awkward and socially risky.
  • Violating this “girl code” can result in being blacklisted during rush or even dropped from sororities altogether.
  • In small schools, social circles overlap so much that by senior year, "your friends have kissed every normal guy."
  • There are rare instances where sisters bond over a shared, less-than-ideal ex.

Notable Quotes:

• “I feel like you will get burned.” – Gia Giudice (06:10)
• "By the time it’s senior year, like, your friends have kissed every normal guy." – Sorority Member 3 (06:31)
• “Sometimes you could really bond over a guy.” – Gia Giudice (08:46)

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3. Cattiness, Drama, and Sorority House Dynamics (09:53–12:47)

• Main Question: How much drama is there, really—and what causes it?
• Insights:
  • Drama usually comes from petty squabbles: music, borrowed (unreturned) items, or quirks like roommates singing everything to each other.
  • Major sources of tension: boys, drinking, sneaking guests in, and senior members losing interest.
  • Seniors become less involved, which can cause frustration for younger members and organizational headaches.
  • Mishaps like “projectile vomiting in the living room” spark group-wide consequences and drama.
• Memorable Moment: Improv singing in rooms led to gossip and group chat complaints.

Notable Quotes:

• “It’s like small drama—girls getting mad over really small things, like holding grudges, like music too loud or not returning somebody’s things.” – Gia Giudice (10:07)
• “We had some horrible instances where girls would come home and, like, one girl projectile vomited in our living room...the president woke up, screenshotted security footage of the carpet outside and was like, why is our carpet outside?" – Sorority Member 2 (11:39)

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4. Rush Week Experiences: Being Rushed vs. Being the Rusher (17:25–19:24)

• Main Question: Which is better—participating in rush as a potential new member (PNM), or being on the recruiting side?
• Insights:
  • Most guests agree it's more enjoyable to be a freshman PNM—it’s exciting, with low stakes.
  • Being a rusher can feel "exhausting," "like a full-time job," and leave you feeling "awful" because you have to categorize and rank incoming girls.
  • Recruitment chairs do a massive amount of work, often at the expense of fun or other social events.

Notable Quotes:

• “You're ranking, like literally going...and you're ranking girls...I left every day being like, wow, I'm an awful person.” – Sorority Member 1 (18:21)

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5. Friendships Across Sororities & The GPA Struggle (19:25–22:38)

• Main Question: What if your friend doesn’t get into your sorority? How does GPA affect rush?
• Insights:
  • Some find it tough at first if close friends don’t join the same house, but most make it work through effort and shared events.
  • GPA requirements for rushing—often 2.5 or above—are a major barrier, especially for students in rigorous majors.
  • Fraternities also struggle with grades; hazing and pledge activities can tank academic performance, sometimes forcing guys to drop out.

Notable Quotes:

• “They called it the orphanage because you were stuck in a room with, like, 20 bunk beds.” – Gia Giudice (23:51)
• “My dad always tells me the only reason he was in a frat for one semester is because his grades tanked too much.” – Sorority Member 1 (22:24)

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6. House Life: The Quest for Good Rooms and "Orphanage" Living (23:24–24:58)

• Main Topics:
  • Studying could earn “points,” which improved your room pick.
  • Not enough points meant living in a communal sleeping area dubbed "the orphanage" or "the sleeping porch," an overcrowded and chaotic space.
  • Everyone wants a single room; "grinding" for points is serious business.

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7. Fraternity House Reality: Disgusting or Misunderstood? (29:39–34:41)

• Main Question: Are fraternity houses as gross as legend says?
• Insights:
  • Unanimous consensus: "Super gross." Words like "sticky" and "ancient couches" abound.
  • Little to no maintenance; parties constantly disrupt basic cleanliness.
  • Some houses have quirky traditions, e.g., in-room bars that survive for decades.
  • Dues are high, but go mostly to parties and formals, not living conditions.
• Memorable Moment: “If we went into our guy friend's room and it was spotless, we're like, that's weird. You should definitely not be having a tight, spotless room in the fraternity house."

Notable Quotes:

• “Everything is sticky.” – Sorority Member 1 (29:51)
• "I don't think I've ever seen a decently looking room in a fraternity house." – Sorority Member 2 (29:43)
• "Living in a fraternity house could, like, send you into having, like, chronic OCD." – Gia Giudice (31:32)

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8. Sorority vs. Fraternity Formals & Sleeping Arrangements (33:05–34:41)

• Sororities and fraternities try to "one-up" each other with elaborate formals—scheduling venues at beaches, the city, or “away formals.”
• Only fraternities host "sleepover" formals; sororities rarely do.
• Formals are fun, except when you’re stuck with a date you don’t like for a multi-day event.

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9. Living Standards: Would You Shower at a Frat? (34:15–34:49)

• Hard no from every woman present—communal fraternity showers are “gross,” and better to just go home.

Notable Quotes:

• “If you gotta shower, that means you should go home. Do not shower.” – Sorority Member 2 (34:37)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On social code:
  “Dating the same guy as a sorority sister is...just weird. But it just gets smaller and smaller as you get older and older.” – Sorority Member 3 (06:31)
• On sorority drama:
  “Me and my roommate used to sing to each other...People would talk about it downstairs. Like we were just...having fun in our rooms.” – Sorority Member 2 (10:20)
• On cleaning frats:
  “Where did you get this couch? …What animals are living in it?” – Sorority Member 2 (30:49)
• On extreme communal living:
  “They called it the orphanage because you were stuck in a room with, like, 20 bunk beds.” – Gia Giudice (23:51)

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Key Timestamps for Reference

• Showering and Bathrooms: 03:24–05:55
• Dating "Exs" and Girl Code: 06:00–09:51
• Drama & House Conflict: 09:53–12:47
• Rush Week – Sides Explained: 17:25–19:24
• Friendships & GPA Issues: 19:25–22:38
• Room Points & "Orphanage": 23:24–24:58
• Fraternity House Reality: 29:39–34:41
• Formals and Overnights: 33:05–34:41
• Living Standards/Showers: 34:15–34:49

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Final Thoughts

This "Dirty Rush" installment is an honest, laugh-out-loud look at the joys and chaos of Greek life—from bathroom bonds and dramatic rushes to dating minefields and grimy fraternity houses. Gia and friends spill the tea, debunk myths, and confirm plenty of stereotypes. Whether you're a fellow sorority alum or an intrigued outsider, this episode offers a memorable, relatable, and very real peek into the unfiltered side of college sisterhood.

Transcript

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[Gia Giudice]

Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life with your hosts, me, Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hey, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. I am currently in the Bay Area for the big game. I love it here. But I also gathered some sorority girls to answer some burning questions here for this Dirty Rush episode. Hi, girls.

[Sorority Member 1]

Hi.

[Sorority Member 3]

Hello.

[Gia Giudice]

Yes, I found them off the street. Okay, so let's get into it. Is it weird to go to the bathroom and shower next to each other in the sorority house?

[Sorority Member 2]

Well, my sorority house was the showers and the bathrooms were closed off, so it was not weird at all. I never had that problem.

[Gia Giudice]

What do you mean? Like, like you didn't.

[Sorority Member 2]

There was individual showers. Are you talking about like.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, but aren't like, being in the bathroom?

[Jill Winnerstein]

It's all in the same bathroom?

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

I don't think any sorority house has, like, open showers. I think everyone has a stall somehow.

[Sorority Member 1]

But I mean, at least in my house we had shower parties. So you'd like purposely time when you were gonna shower so that one person would have a speaker and everyone would be hanging out in the bathroom showering at the exact same time.

[Jill Winnerstein]

Shower parties?

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah, like, purposely planned.

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[Gia Giudice]

I feel like that's kind of fun though.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah, no, it's super fun.

[Gia Giudice]

I mean, to shower and dance and sing in the shower.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah, that's so fun. Yeah.

[Sorority Member 1]

I mean, you're getting ready for the same parties. You're going to the same events. Why not shower together?

[Sorority Member 3]

How many showers were there?

[Sorority Member 1]

Five Stall, like five little stalls.

[Gia Giudice]

So I assume some girls probably showered together. Probably.

[Sorority Member 2]

I mean, it was like when I was showering, I feel like it was always like an everything shower. Or not always, I guess. Yeah. But in the fraternity houses, they had just shower heads in like a huge shower room.

[Gia Giudice]

That makes them comfortable.

[Sorority Member 2]

Which is disgusting. Yeah, no, like they would steam out the whole room. The room was like about this size and there was like six shower heads.

[Gia Giudice]

I just feel like it's weirder for guys. But then I feel like guys get off on it more than girls.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, dead ass.

[Gia Giudice]

Because I feel like it's kind of like that in the high school locker rooms too. It's pretty much all open.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, it is open. But I remember it was never, like, a get naked kind of thing. Like, everyone was in their swimsuits from PE or from swim. Or water polo.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

So, yeah, I didn't really have that issue with going to the bathroom.

[Gia Giudice]

I think girls think it's less weird.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

And kind of just go with it. It's, like, over.

[Sorority Member 1]

Well, I just think it's also just. Especially at frats, I think it's quite gross because I have been in situations where I'm waiting for the bathroom out of frat and girls will go into the open, like, exactly what you're talking about with those bathrooms, and go and pee in there. So I'm like, that's an extra layer of just disgusting.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

And the bathrooms are clean.

[Gia Giudice]

Crazy. Okay.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

So girls. Girls do it, I guess. And it's not weird. Okay. Is it weird to date someone your sorority sister also dated? I could say 100. Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

1,000%. Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

I feel like you will get burned.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yes. So awkward, too. And also, like, if you go to a small school, like, I went to a smaller school, like, you're not gonna go for a guy that, like. Like, all your friends have, like, hooked up with or dated. Like, that's just weird. But it just gets smaller and smaller as you get older and older. By the time it's senior year, like, your friends have kissed every normal guy.

[Jill Winnerstein]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

I feel like it's just a big no no, too. Especially while you're a freshman and 100% to rush, you should not get with any older guy. If you want to get with a freshman, it's fine, because odds are, like, a potential older sister is going to have a less likely chance to hook up with a freshman than an older guy.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

So I remember one of my friends. I felt so bad for her, but smart, beautiful girl, like, definitely could have been a sorority girl and just never was a. Oh, no. She ended up becoming one. Yes. But freshman year, she got with this older guy, but he happened to be dating somebody in the sorority she didn't know, and they, like, blacklisted her.

[Sorority Member 2]

Oh, God.

[Gia Giudice]

For Rush.

[Sorority Member 3]

It's crazy. I remember there was a story of this girl I went to high school with. She went to school in California, and so they had second semester rush, and at a party, she was, like, all over him, grabbing him, and they, like, dropped her, like, every house. Cuz, like, the girl, it was like, the president's boyfriend. And so, like, she told everyone to drop there, which is insane.

[Gia Giudice]

I feel like that happens so often.

[Sorority Member 1]

You hear all the stories, like, I feel like when you are dating someone who's in a. Like, who's in a frat, like, you know why they broke up. So then you hear all the rep. Like, hear the reputation. You hear the reason, whether it's cheating, whether it's whatever, and then it's always something. So it's like if you were to then choose to go and date that

[Sorority Member 3]

guy, it doesn't look good on your end.

[Sorority Member 1]

It's bad. Well, no, it's bad.

[Sorority Member 2]

What's funny is when I was a sophomore. No, when I was a freshman, I was hooking up with a sophomore who I thought was kind of weird. And, like, he asked me on, like, weird dates that I, like, freaked out and would throw my phone across the room. Like, I could not stand him. But we were hooking up and then we stopped. Flash forward to sophomore year. I was interviewing, which sounds so weird. I was interviewing girls to be my little. What is that called?

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, speed dating.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, we were speed dating. And she was telling me the story of this guy she was hooking up with, but was a little bit weird. Oh, no, same guy. And then we, like, bonded over the

[Sorority Member 1]

fact that you're using the term weird, too. That's.

[Gia Giudice]

What's.

[Sorority Member 1]

That's his descriptor.

[Sorority Member 2]

He's a little weird. But I don't even know. We just like. Like slowly unsheel a little. Yeah. And then she's turned into my little.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, my God.

[Sorority Member 2]

And then get this.

[Gia Giudice]

See, sometimes you could really bond over a guy.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Jill Winnerstein]

It didn't sound.

[Gia Giudice]

And it doesn't have to be weird

[Sorority Member 2]

because we both live in the same city now. Last year, I went on a date with this smoke from a friend of a friend.

[Jill Winnerstein]

Mutual.

[Sorority Member 2]

We went on a couple of dates.

[Sorority Member 3]

You are using such interesting words today.

[Sorority Member 2]

We went on a couple of dates. He was so gorgeous, so fun. And then flash forward to, like, six months later. Someone told me that it came up randomly in my little conversation that they had gone on a couple of dates, too and mashed on hinge.

[Sorority Member 3]

Like, of course.

[Gia Giudice]

That's bizarre.

[Sorority Member 2]

That's why we're social stars.

[Sorority Member 3]

The world is sometimes a little weirdo.

[Sorority Member 1]

Smoke. Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

I don't think you guys should constantly be going out with the same guys. I feel like for it to happen twice a little too often.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, it's one too many times for sure. Especially when you move to a new city.

[Gia Giudice]

Let's not bond over it too much, okay?

[Sorority Member 3]

Seriously.

[Sorority Member 2]

We haven't talked since.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, well, okay. Would you say that there is cattiness in the sorority house or just in sororities in general?

[Sorority Member 3]

Yes.

[Sorority Member 1]

Like, catty.

[Sorority Member 3]

Like, cat. Like, you fight, like.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah. Bitching over stupid stuff.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, yeah, like, catty.

[Sorority Member 1]

It's like small. Small drama.

[Sorority Member 3]

Like, girls getting mad over really small

[Gia Giudice]

things, like holding grudges, like music too loud in the room or not returning somebody's things.

[Sorority Member 2]

Me and my roommate used to sing to each other.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, my God.

[Sorority Member 3]

That's niche.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

Wouldn't you.

[Sorority Member 1]

That's a little weird.

[Sorority Member 2]

No, we would just, like, sing, like, just for funsies. And, like.

[Gia Giudice]

Okay.

[Sorority Member 2]

People would talk about it downstairs. Like, we were just. We were. We were just having fun in our rooms.

[Sorority Member 3]

I definitely would have talked about it if I was singing.

[Sorority Member 2]

So people were talking about it and they were a little bit annoyed, and

[Sorority Member 3]

we had no idea.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, I like why there was singing coming from the room, but that was, like, the only thing.

[Sorority Member 3]

Did you guys sing about, like, just, like, your conversations. Would you sing them? Yeah.

[Ben Higgins]

What?

[Sorority Member 1]

Wait, that's awesome. I do a lot of sing, but,

[Gia Giudice]

like, you wouldn't play music.

[Sorority Member 1]

No, you, like, make a little jingle of your day.

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[Sorority Member 2]

You know, just, like, sing what you're trying to say.

[Sorority Member 3]

Can you give us an example?

[Sorority Member 2]

Please? Please?

[Sorority Member 3]

No,

[Sorority Member 2]

not a se.

[Gia Giudice]

I will not do that.

[Sorority Member 1]

I know exactly what you're saying. I do the same thing.

[Gia Giudice]

I had the worst day. Yeah, yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yes, exactly.

[Sorority Member 1]

And it actually blasted in group chats.

[Sorority Member 2]

No, it actually was like, hey, can you guys keep it down? Like, I'm trying to study. And we're like, oh, my God.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, my God.

[Sorority Member 3]

We have a lot of tea to unload.

[Gia Giudice]

That's actually hilarious.

[Sorority Member 3]

Oh, my God.

[Gia Giudice]

What causes the most drama in a sorority house?

[Sorority Member 2]

I think, like, boys.

[Sorority Member 1]

Boys.

[Sorority Member 2]

Boys and drinking, blacking out.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

We had some horrible instances where girls would come home and, like, one girl projectile vomited in our living room, and it was bad. And then it was like the carpet would. Was dragged out and put outside. And then in the morning, the president woke up, screenshotted the security footage of the carpet outside and was like, why is our carpet outside? And then. Yeah, it was just a disaster.

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[Gia Giudice]

I think it's boys and drinking. I think it's, like, sneaking boys into the house, too. Or, like, coming home drunk and, like, raiding the kitchen or making a mess. I feel like all of that is, like, kind of big.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah. We have a lot of issues with girls, like, once they become seniors, not being involved anymore. And that causes a lot of problems, like, not showing up to events, not being involved in, like, alumni things or not coming to chapter. And kind of just once you get to a certain point, you no longer have as much interest in the sorority. You kind of just fall off the grid.

[Gia Giudice]

That was man.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah, it causes a lot of problems.

[Sorority Member 3]

Like it just happens. Senior.

[Sorority Member 1]

It just happens.

[Sorority Member 3]

I think with my sorority I was just like, yeah, like, of course the seniors aren't a chapter.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah, well, it's also, I tell the younger girls, I'm like, once you're a senior, you will feel the same way. Like, you will just not want to kill anymore.

[Gia Giudice]

Like, you guys have been doing this

[Sorority Member 3]

for way too long. It's just bound to happen.

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If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Ben Higgins]

What do you do when the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins and if you can hear me is where culture meets the soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers and everyday folks, and we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff. Identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore. Loss that changes you. Purpose when success isn't enough. Peace when your mind won't slow down. Faith when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if youf Can Hear me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Gia Giudice]

Which side of Rush would you think is better? My God, what side of Rush do you think is better? Participating in Rush or rushing the potential P M's and already being in a sorority?

[Sorority Member 3]

Already being in 100%. I agree.

[Sorority Member 1]

That's better.

[Gia Giudice]

I hate it. I hated.

[Sorority Member 1]

Well, I love doing it. I love being.

[Sorority Member 3]

I liked both, but I like being

[Gia Giudice]

on the other side being recruited. I thought it was fun and Exciting. Because you're a freshman. I love then being an older and actually having to rush all these girls all day. I wanted to like, die.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah. Ours also went over. It was first semester and it always went over a three day weekend and like a big football game.

[Sorority Member 1]

You know, we weren't able to miss the first football game. This was dry. Yeah. And they didn't let anybody in Greek life do it.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

[Sorority Member 1]

That's intense.

[Sorority Member 2]

I would rather school be in than go through.

[Sorority Member 1]

I just always felt like shit about myself. Like, you're ranking, like literally going. You're doing these rounds and you're ranking girls.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. Like, yeah.

[Sorority Member 1]

Being on the other side of it, I feel like it was just super fun to elevate her pitch and be like. It felt so, like, easy to just like, oh my God, like, this is fun and no stakes involved. I mean, obviously the stakes are whether or not you get into a sorority when you're on the other end of it. I feel like I left every day being like, wow, I'm an awful person. I just had to like, put girls in boxes and categorize everyone.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 1]

Based on who was this, this or that.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. And I get that. Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

I feel like if you're involved in recruitment, then you tend to like, like it a lot more. Like on being in the sorority, what

[Sorority Member 2]

does kind of suck is like the rush week.

[Gia Giudice]

I just think it's in. It's exhausting. Like when you're a freshman rushing, like, you're excited. Obviously, if things don't go your way, it's maybe not the best experience for you, but like just planning all that, like rush chair. They do a lot.

[Sorority Member 3]

They do so much.

[Gia Giudice]

Like, it's a lot.

[Sorority Member 2]

It's a lot.

[Sorority Member 3]

I mean, it's a full time job.

[Gia Giudice]

It's a little exhausting.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

What is it like if you have a good friend that doesn't get into the same sorority that you got into?

[Sorority Member 3]

That's hard. I feel like it's hard. I don't know.

[Gia Giudice]

I mean, I think it's a funny adjustment as a freshman.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Because you get really busy, you start going to a lot of your events, and then you end up eventually seeing, you know, your friends at parties and you end up making it work. But I think you do have to put a little more effort into it at first.

[Ben Higgins]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

I think it kind of matters more it, like the semester of rush, you're doing it. Like, I feel like if it's like for my school, we did it the week before recruitment started, so like, you don't have that many friends yet. Like, you haven't made that many friends unless you like new girls from your high school. Yeah, but once you're a second semester and you've, like, made all these friends for a semester, then I feel like it would be a lot harder if your best friends you've made for a semester didn't get in the sorority you got in. And maybe the ones you guys talked about rushing.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, no, I agree with that.

[Sorority Member 3]

So I feel like it just depends.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, I didn't really experience that. I mean, I kind of.

[Gia Giudice]

All your friends got into the same one?

[Sorority Member 2]

Well, yeah, it was the first week of school, and so my roommate.

[Sorority Member 3]

That's like, me too. Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

We both rushed the same sororities and then got.

[Gia Giudice]

See, mine was second semester, and a lot of my friends just didn't rush or, like, didn't have the GPA to rush. And so I just was in my sorority.

[Sorority Member 2]

Why didn't some of your friends rush?

[Gia Giudice]

They didn't have the gpi.

[Sorority Member 2]

Oh, really?

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. Like, literally most.

[Sorority Member 1]

What was.

[Gia Giudice]

All of them. You had to have, like, a 2.5. I thought it was the craziest thing ever.

[Sorority Member 2]

We are our ours. You had to have a 3. 2 to get into.

[Gia Giudice]

You gotta have a 2.5. And I was like, how do my friends.

[Sorority Member 3]

And that's hard if you're a second semester rush because so many freshmen have a hard first semester. Because it's such an adjustment.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. And that was it. You know, And I think. And at the time, a lot of my friends thought they wanted to go into this field and maybe be this. Or, you know, a doctor, a nurse, a dentist. Like, really hard.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Majors where it was like, maybe not the smartest decision as a freshman to do.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Because they were taking biology or chemistry or just really hard classes where they were all literally failing.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, that's.

[Sorority Member 3]

So it's a big adjustment.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, you're right.

[Sorority Member 3]

So I feel like the GPA thing is hard again for second semester recruitment.

[Sorority Member 2]

It's kind of like on the flip side with guys. I remember freshman year, I was talking to my guy friends and they were failing out of their freshman year classes because of pledging.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

They're pledging for fraternities. And so they were, like, up all night. I don't know if they were drinking while they were pledging. Whatever they were doing, they had zero time to do their schoolwork. And then they were exhausted during class. So then they all got horrible GPAs.

[Sorority Member 1]

That's why my dad always tells me that the only reason he was in a frat for one semester is because his grades tanked too much that he had to drop. Yeah. Like, literally pledging like you, it's. It's hard to keep up.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 1]

Especially if you. Depending on your majors, like, you really have to keep that high gpa.

[Sorority Member 3]

At my school, the fraternities, like, during pledging, like, had to go to the library for certain hours of the day.

[Gia Giudice]

We had study hours.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah, they had study hours as freshmen.

[Sorority Member 2]

We did.

[Gia Giudice]

To, like, keep us, like. And honestly, I kind of liked it.

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[Gia Giudice]

Because it was like, they forced you to go to, like, either whether it was a lecture hall or the library, and we literally had to sit there for two hours.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

And, like, do work.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

And it kind of just, like, forced you to do it. Like, what else are you gonna do? They would yell at you if you were talking.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

So it's like, might as well just do your work.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah, that's true.

[Sorority Member 3]

I think it's a good thing for the fraternities because they kind of need that because they're so busy. So, like, force them to go sit in the library.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

For two hours.

[Sorority Member 2]

We would get points for studying.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Which would then lead to, like, a good room.

[Sorority Member 3]

This was all thinking back to points.

[Sorority Member 2]

Good room for living in the house.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, my God. Gabriella, My sister, grinded for those points because she wanted a single. She wanted her own room.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

And she grinded, went to every single event.

[Sorority Member 2]

Did she get it?

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, she got it.

[Sorority Member 2]

Oh, good.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, of course she got it. She would have lost her mind.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

If she had enough, I think she would have lost her mind. Because if you didn't get a single, obviously, then you got a double. But if you didn't get the double, you were literally. They called it the orphanage because you were stuck in a room with, like, 20 bunk beds.

[Sorority Member 2]

Oh, my God.

[Gia Giudice]

And I just thought that that was Michigan. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Sorority Member 3]

Isn't it called, like, the deck, A cold room, or.

[Gia Giudice]

I don't know, sleeping porch.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yes. I was like, porch. Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But I thought it was crazy because I'm like, I've never heard of that before. Like, there's that. Your shit is every. Like, your stuff is everywhere. It's basically like everyone has a. There's, like, a room for the beds and then a room for everyone's clothes.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah. I've heard of this. It's crazy.

[Gia Giudice]

And it's like, that's no way to live.

[Sorority Member 3]

How do you like wake up, work

[Sorority Member 2]

out or if someone coughs.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Oh my gosh. The illnesses that probably spread in that room.

[Sorority Member 3]

Oh, yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Or if you can't sleep and everyone else around you is asleep and they're

[Sorority Member 3]

snoring to get creative.

[Gia Giudice]

Gabrielle's OCD is just too extreme. Like she would have never been able to.

[Sorority Member 2]

I would not do that.

[Gia Giudice]

To do that.

[Sorority Member 2]

I wouldn't have been able to survive, you know? Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

I could never.

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[Gia Giudice]

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[Gia Giudice]

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[Sorority Member 2]

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[Gia Giudice]

He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jill Winnerstein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Ben Higgins]

What do you do when the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins and if you can hear me is where Cult meets the Soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers and everyday folks, and we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff. Identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore. Loss that changes you Purpose when success isn't enough. Peace when your mind won't slow down. Faith when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Gia Giudice]

Our fraternity house is gross.

[Sorority Member 2]

Super.

[Gia Giudice]

Honestly, very.

[Sorority Member 2]

I don't think I've ever seen a decently looking room in a fraternity house.

[Sorority Member 3]

No, genuinely, they're disgusting.

[Gia Giudice]

They're just so gross.

[Sorority Member 1]

It's sticky. Everything is sticky.

[Sorority Member 3]

Sticky. So much alcohol.

[Sorority Member 1]

And to think that it's the turnover time. Throwing a party. Then you have like maybe three days of actually living there. And then another party.

[Gia Giudice]

That's true.

[Sorority Member 1]

And three days of living there. It's just never clean. No, they don't actually mean there's no main maintenance of like livable standards.

[Gia Giudice]

I think the fraternity houses At Rutgers hired a cleaning service. But, like, not really. Like, they don't care. It's just gross. It's so nasty.

[Sorority Member 2]

I mean, like, from houses being passed on to, like, people coming in your room and breaking stuff. I feel like there's no way to salvage a fraternity room.

[Gia Giudice]

No.

[Sorority Member 2]

Much less, like, a living room. It was so odd if I would go over to the fraternity house in the daytime or the week to, like, see my guy friends, and there was a couch in the living room. Where did you get this couch?

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah, that's my question.

[Sorority Member 2]

100 million years old. What animals are living in?

[Sorority Member 3]

They all have to have couches in their rooms, like, always.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

In their tiny room, they managed to fit a couch.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Everyone wanted, like, their room to be it.

[Gia Giudice]

So be, like, the hangout, like, during the party. Everyone go, oh, we're in this room.

[Sorority Member 2]

They're so cool. If you had a clean room. I remember my friends and I would talk about this if we went into our guy friend's room in the fraternity house, and it was, like, spotless. We're like, that's weird. Like, you should definitely not be having

[Gia Giudice]

a tight spotless room in the fraternity house. Let's make it dirty.

[Sorority Member 2]

No dust. He was a little ocd.

[Sorority Member 3]

Well, some people are.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

But I feel like also living in a fraternity house could, like, send you into having, like, chronic ocd.

[Sorority Member 1]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

You're like, this is the only space that I can actually control.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

And it's my room.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah. I would probably keep it clean. You should have thought that that was, like, attractive.

[Sorority Member 2]

I know. I think I did. And then my friends were like, ew. I was like, duh.

[Sorority Member 3]

Wait, do you guys want to hear something crazy?

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

In my dad's fraternity, him and his roommate started a bar in their room.

[Sorority Member 1]

Oh, my. Yeah, my school has that.

[Sorority Member 3]

It's still there.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yes.

[Sorority Member 2]

Oh, that's pretty cute.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah. In their room, and it's still there. But I'm like, how were you living? And they would make money. They would, like, go buy all this alcohol, set up this little bar. And so when there was parties, girls would, like, go up and buy drinks from their room.

[Sorority Member 2]

Oh, my God. That's so funny.

[Gia Giudice]

So smart.

[Sorority Member 3]

Right? But, like, how would you, like, live, like, with a bar in your room?

[Gia Giudice]

Did he make, like, the door?

[Sorority Member 1]

The bar?

[Sorority Member 3]

It was like, they set one up. I think they, like, set up a bar and, like, went.

[Gia Giudice]

Bar.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Sorority Member 2]

What was also interesting was how much they paid for their rooms. I mean, living in my area anyways was just really Expensive. But, like, the dues that they had to pay to live in that hole to, like, also pay for our parties.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Was insane. Their dues were so high.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Like going to formals and stuff.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, yeah. Because they would have. They.

[Jill Winnerstein]

And.

[Sorority Member 2]

And like, their parents were paying.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

For us to get blacked out.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Literally in.

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[Sorority Member 2]

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[Gia Giudice]

Wanted to one up and wanted to one up each other when it came to the formals. So it was like, oh, you drove to your formal. You took a party bus to your form.

[Sorority Member 2]

Where'd you guys go for your formals?

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[Gia Giudice]

If they were, like, nice, we always kind of went, like, near the shore area. And, like, we had, like, a couple venues that were on the beach, and we did one in the city.

[Sorority Member 3]

Would you guys stay the night at those? Like, would you do, like, away formals where you spent the night anywhere only

[Gia Giudice]

for the fraternities did that.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Never the sorority. Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Same. Which was so fun.

[Sorority Member 3]

Away formals were fun.

[Sorority Member 2]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

So fun. Until you, like, didn't want to be with that guy.

[Sorority Member 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Sorority Member 3]

Yeah.

[Sorority Member 2]

Or you, like, had the worst night of your life and you're suffering two more days anxiety, and you have two more days, and then you have to

[Sorority Member 1]

drive home with, like, six.

[Sorority Member 3]

Six people. Awful. It's the worst.

[Gia Giudice]

So funny. Would you guys ever shower at a fraternity? Do you guys ever have boyfriends at the. At a fraternity house?

[Sorority Member 2]

No.

[Sorority Member 3]

No.

[Gia Giudice]

So you never experienced. No, I would never.

[Sorority Member 2]

Never. Like, you live in the same city. Do not put your bare feet in that shower. Go home.

[Sorority Member 3]

Go home. Even if you have a boyfriend, if

[Sorority Member 2]

you got a shower, that means you should go home. Like, do not shower.

[Sorority Member 3]

Please go home.

[Sorority Member 2]

Imagine you're like, oh, hey, babe, can

[Gia Giudice]

I take a shower here?

[Sorority Member 2]

And it's like, the communal showers. Gross.

[Gia Giudice]

And that is part one. Stay tuned for part two. Love you guys. Bye.

[Sorority Member 1]

This is an I heart podcast.

[Gia Giudice]

Guaranteed human.