Dirty Rush: Rush Rules - Winter Recruitment is On

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod: Dirty Rush – “Rush Rules – Winter Recruitment is On”

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Date: January 10, 2026
Episode Theme:
This special episode of Dirty Rush, hosted by Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler, pulls back the curtain on sorority recruitment (“rush”) with a focus on modern winter recruitment. Through conversations with recent sorority members, social media influencers, and a sorority rush coach, the episode explores the highs, lows, and realities of joining a sorority today. Key themes include authenticity, the pressures of social media, legacy rules, friend dynamics, and practical advice for women entering rush.

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Episode Breakdown

1. The Rush Experience Up Close: Guest Stories

Chloe – SDT, Syracuse University ([03:55] – [14:02])

• Background:

  • Chloe entered Syracuse University with about 300,000 TikTok followers and 20,000 on Instagram.
  • She had little knowledge of Greek life, relying mostly on social media research.

• Rush Decision Process:

  • Initially set on a different house, Chloe changed her mind after negative rumors and a genuine connection elsewhere.
  • Memorable Quote:
    • “I want to see this girl on bid day because I’m obsessed with her… I don’t want to go to a house where I feel like I have to put on a face for them.” (Chloe, [08:02])
  • Learned some houses were interested in her solely for her social media influence—a factor which ultimately steered her away.

• Social Media and Legacy Status:

  • Discussion on how sororities investigate PNMs (Potential New Members), including background checks and social media scrutiny.
  • Chloe recounts being dropped from a “legacy” house, even though her sister had been a member at another school.
  • Quote:
    • “They know exactly who you are... They look at absolutely everything.” (Gia Giudice, [06:39])

• Navigating Toxicity:

  • After choosing SDT, Chloe experienced mean behavior from girls in the other house, confirming she’d made the right choice.
  • Quote:
    • “Thank God I made the right decision.” (Chloe, [09:35])

• Life as Rush Chair:

  • Chloe served as rush chair twice and handled social media for her house.
  • She revealed how chapters pair PNMs with existing members using extensive prep and sometimes shallow criteria like photos and perceived ‘fit’.
  • Quote:
    • “We had to pair up each girl individually with a girl in our house, so we’d have to, like, figure out who would vibe with who based on, literally, pictures, which is awful.” (Chloe, [11:25])

• Sorority Rules & Self-Expression:

  • Strict rules limited what she could share about sorority life on social media until after graduation.
  • Once graduated, she felt free to speak openly:
    • “Now I’m free, and I’m like, you know what, like, it was just a sorority.” (Chloe, [12:47])

• Lifetime Friendships:

  • Despite warnings, her initial friend group remains intact today, even across rival houses.
  • “My friend group now is the same from freshman year of college to now—ten of us. Five went one house, five went another. And we’re still all like best friends.” (Chloe, [13:08])

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2. Social Media Influence and Sorority Content ([18:20] – [30:05])

Jennifer Fessler – AEPhi, Syracuse University

• Background:

  • Jennifer was also a Syracuse student (AEPhi) and is now a podcast host.
  • She creates sorority recruitment content and “rush guides” for TikTok and Instagram.

• Her Rush Experience:

  • Jennifer felt like an outsider (a “theater kid”), with little confidence and social connections during recruitment.
  • Despite being a legacy and drawn to AEPhi’s Jewish heritage, she arrived knowing very few people.
  • Quote:
    • “All these girls seemed so much more confident than I did… they knew people already.” (Jennifer, [25:03])
  • Though she eventually “vibed” with the AEPhi girls, she and other isolated PNMs formed their own tight-knit friend group.

• Advice for PNMs:

  • Practical: Stock your bag with Purell, wipes, makeup, mints, snacks for long rush days.
  • Emotional: “Just be yourself—value your happiness over the ranking… you won’t be happy if you’re just trying to be cool and end up in a ‘top’ house.” (Jennifer, [27:41])
  • Observed that genuine connections, not “prestige,” should drive the choice.

• Social Media Journey:

  • Jennifer didn’t start posting rush content until after college, fearing it would make her appear “uncool.”
  • Went viral post-graduation, eventually turning social media into her full-time job.
  • Quote:
    • “I just started really fully posting like, five times a day… and now I do it full time.” (Jennifer, [29:06])

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3. The Rise of Sorority Recruitment Coaching ([34:47] – [43:58])

Audrey – Alpha Chi Omega, University of Texas & “The Sorority Sister” founder

• Background:

  • Audrey is from California, went to UT Austin, joined Alpha Chi; her transition out-of-state made Greek life vital for her.
  • She documented her sorority journey via YouTube, including vlogs of her crying during rush.

• Coaching Business:

  • Co-founded “The Sorority Sister” (with Kendall, a former Ole Miss sorority member/CMO). They offer online courses and some one-on-one coaching.
  • Aim to make rush guidance more accessible, especially for girls without older sisters or family Greek connections.

• Coaching Content:

  • Courses cover prep (applications, resumes), what to expect during rush, and making decisions based on values and authentic friendship—not social pressure or legacy.
  • Emphasis on self-reflection: “What are you looking for in a friend? What kind of friend are you? What do you want out of this sorority experience?” (Audrey, [39:21])
  • Stresses inner qualities over wardrobe, but covers outfits/interview tips too.

• Industry Trends:

  • Reveals rush coaching has become more common, especially at “big” southern schools.
  • Wants to bring coaching events in person, including possible mother/daughter networking.

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Notable Quotes & Insights

• On Judging and Social Media:

  • “You couldn’t post certain things. You couldn’t say certain things… I kind of had to keep a lot of it private.” (Chloe, [11:58])
  • “They know exactly who you are. They check your background. They look at absolutely everything.” (Gia, [06:39])

• On Lasting Sorority Friendships:

  • “Everybody warns you your friends will change, which is usually true, but surprisingly, we all stayed together.” (Chloe, [13:46])

• On Recruitment Pressure:

  • “You should value your happiness over the ranking… because if you’re just trying to be cool, you ultimately won’t be happy.” (Jennifer, [27:41])

• On Rush Preparation:

  • “Just having more knowledge and information… will help you be yourself in this crazy situation that rush is.” (Audrey, [40:13])

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Important Timestamps

• [03:55] Introduction of Chloe (SDT, Syracuse)
• [04:22] Chloe’s nervous approach to rush and initial impressions
• [06:26] Chloe reveals her TikTok/IG following entering college
• [07:01] Discussion of legacy status and being dropped from legacy house
• [08:02] Chloe explains her final preference decision and values
• [09:05] Addressing negative treatment from other sororities post-rush
• [10:11] Chloe serving as rush chair and “behind-the-scenes” look at matching PNMs
• [12:32] Discussing sorority social media rules and self-expression
• [13:08] Lasting friendships across houses
• [18:20] Jennifer Fessler (AEPhi, Syracuse) introduction and podcast background
• [21:40] Jennifer details her recruitment comedy guides
• [22:45] Jennifer on feeling like an outsider and her unique experience joining AEPhi
• [27:00] Jennifer’s rush tips and “just be yourself” philosophy
• [29:05] Jennifer’s jump into TikTok/rush content after college
• [34:47] Introduction of Audrey (Alpha Chi, UT Austin) and rush journey
• [36:12] Origin of “The Sorority Sister” rush coaching company
• [39:21] Audrey’s focus on finding genuine friendships during rush
• [42:21] Audrey’s goal to move rush coaching in-person

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Overall Tone and Language

The episode is candid, supportive, and humorous, marked by a “real talk” vibe without shying away from the pressures, secrets, and emotional rollercoaster of sorority rush. Gia and Daisy interject with empathy (“That’s so crazy!”), curiosity, and encouragement, striving to keep the discussion grounded in the actual lived experience of young women.

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Summary

This episode of Dirty Rush provides an honest, contemporary portrait of sorority recruitment. With first-hand stories from recent members, practical advice from a social media-savvy rush coach, and a commitment to authenticity, the show demystifies the rush process while acknowledging its complexities. Listeners come away with a sense that while Greek life is full of tradition and scrutiny—especially in a TikTok era—it can still foster meaningful friendships and personal growth when approached authentically.

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For listeners who haven’t tuned in yet:
Expect the inside scoop on how sororities vet new members, the real role of social media, drama and resilience in friend relationships, what it’s like to feel like an outsider, and actionable advice for anyone rushing in 2026 and beyond.

Transcript

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[Gia Giudice]

Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life with your hosts, me, Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler.

[Daisy Kent]

Welcome back to Dirty Rush. We're continuing our conversation with influencers who

[Gia Giudice]

live the sorority firsthand, breaking down what

[Daisy Kent]

rush was really like, the moments that surprised them the most and what they wish they'd known going in.

[Gia Giudice]

Hi, Chloe.

[Special Agent Riegel]

Hi.

[Gia Giudice]

So where did you go to school?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

So I went to Syracuse University.

[Daisy Kent]

Okay. What sorority were you in?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

I was in sdt.

[Daisy Kent]

Okay.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, fun. That was the sorority when I was at Ruckers. I was like, h, they seem really cool, but, like, I don't know.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah, so different. Like, every chapter is so different at every school. I loved it.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, that's great. So what was your rush process like?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

So I was so nervous because I knew absolutely nothing about sororities or especially sororities at Syracuse before going into rush. I didn't even know, like, what the sororities were, anything about it, really. And the only research I did was, like, look on social media. So before going into rush, I had, like, kind of narrowed it down to, like, a few houses that, you know, like, looked cool online that I could, like, see myself in, but I went in, like, totally blind. And honestly, the process was pretty good. Like, I was so nervous, but it was, like, just talking to, like, like, girls and friends and, you know, having conversations

[Gia Giudice]

and.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah, I. Well, so I, like, went in, like, kind of knowing, like, what my top house was. Like, literally the first day rush, I fell in love with this house, and it totally switched by the end of rush, and I went a different house. But literally up until the last round, preference round, I was like, I'm going this house. And then everything changed. And there's, like, a lot that went into that.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

What was, like.

[Daisy Kent]

What was, like, the main reasons kind of that you did that, like, switch, you think?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah. So basically. So I was obsessed with this house, and I was talking to. I think it was, like, after preference round, I was honestly, like, totally conflicted. I didn't know which house I wanted to go. And I was, like, talking to my friends, which they say, don't talk to your friends about it, because it's your process, your decision. And one of my friends had told me that the one house that I, like, really wanted their Nationals, had told them that they only wanted me for my social media followers.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Oh, yeah.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Which was literally crazy.

[Gia Giudice]

So going into school, how many followers did you have?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

I think I had around, like, 300,000 on TikTok.

[Gia Giudice]

Okay.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Like, around 20,000 on Instagram.

[Gia Giudice]

But you still had a pretty. You had a pretty big following on TikTok.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Yeah.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

And it was more than, like, other girls that I was.

[Gia Giudice]

Of course. So people probably did know you going into, like, going into the rush process. I mean, they also check your background. They look at absolutely everything. They know exactly who you are. And then were you also nervous that some sororities would want you also because of knowing your sister's following?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Honestly, I was never worried about that. That's a great question, but I don't think that, like, ever came across my mind. But if anything, I thought that maybe it would help. Like, I. I don't know. That sounds horrible. But also, like, there was a. My sister was in a sorority at a different school, and when I was rushing and talking to those girls, I was like, oh, oh. Like, my sister was actually in the sorority. She loved it. And then they dropped me. Wow.

[Gia Giudice]

And that's, like, not even allowed, like. But you should have been able to have Legacy going into that sorority because your sister was in it.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

I didn't, like, love the conversations I was having anyways, but I was surprised. I thought that it would help, but.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Wow. So then.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

So then you were talking to your friends. They told you that this one sorority was interested in your following.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

So then how did that. How did you navigate the rest of that experience?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Well, there was also. So there was that. And then also during my preference round, I had spoken to this girl who I absolutely, absolutely fell in love with. Like, I was obsessed with her. I saw her as, like, she could be, like, a true sister to me. Like, I really looked up to her, and she just. A lot of the girls that I spoke to at the house that I ended up going just seemed a lot more genuine and real to me and, like, reflecting back, I was like, honestly, like, I don't. I don't want to go a house where I feel like I have to put on a face for them. Like, I want to go where I feel comfortable. And a lot of my decision came into, like, I want to see this girl on bid day because I'm obsessed with her. I'm obsessed with these other girls that I spoke to. And also, obviously, I don't want to go a house that would say that. Like, that's. That's disgusting. That's horrible. I don't want anything to do with that.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

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[Daisy Kent]

Did you meet a lot of girls

[Gia Giudice]

that were, like, in that sorority throughout your college time?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

I wasn't really friends with a lot of them, especially after I chose the other house. A lot of those girls were, like, really mean to me after. Like, they would, like, see me out, like, the older girls, and they would, like, make faces or curse at me, like, literally. Wow. Crazy stuff.

[Gia Giudice]

You didn't end up in that one.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

I know.

[Gia Giudice]

And I'm like, that's bizarre.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Literally.

[Gia Giudice]

I mean, clearly they were just salty because you picked the other house. But to also act like that, it's like, grow up.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah. Like, thank God I made the right decision.

[Gia Giudice]

So. Made the right decision. And also, like, they're very aware of how sorority rush works. And that's the whole thing about frown where you have your top two houses and you make a decision. So it's a 5050 chance that she's not to go with you, and you just need to just, like, it's a 50.50 chance that the rest of the girls that you're picking are not going to choose you. So it. That's crazy.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I'm sorry that happened.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

It's not the end of the world. Like, I over it.

[Gia Giudice]

Were you in SDT all four years?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yes, I was. And involved? Yeah. I. I knew that I wanted to be involved, like, from the beginning, just because. I don't know. I always loved, like, kind of being a leader in those types of settings. So I did. I was the rush chair twice my sophomore year and then my senior year. And I also, like, did the social media. Yeah. That's awesome.

[Podcast Narrator / Storyteller]

I know.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I know all of the.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

All of the inside scoop from being a rush chair.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, my God. What can you tell us? What is a misconception about rush?

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

What do you think?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Oh, I don't know.

[Daisy Kent]

Was there Anything that, like, shocked you when you were Rush, Cher.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yes. Like, basically, you know, like, every single girl before they come into the house. Like, you. Like, we had, like, all the houses had lists of all the girls, like, with a picture, their hometown, who they're friends with.

[Gia Giudice]

They're literally doing a background check on you.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yes, yes. And it felt wrong, but, like, it was also fun. Like.

[Gia Giudice]

Like, it was like, okay, I'm getting all tea before they're even walking in.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

There's a lot of.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Like, we.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

We had to pair up each girl individually with a girl in our house, so we'd have to, like, figure out who would vibe with who based on, literally, pictures, which is awful. But that's kind of how it works. And obviously, you're not supposed to, like, pair up girls together. It's supposed to be random. But, like, most of the houses do it that way.

[Gia Giudice]

Did you also gauge your audience into sorority life once you got to school?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Kind of.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

I feel like when I got into a sorority, I, like, wasn't really posting that much because there's so many rules, and, like, you have to be careful, like, what you post. And that's something that I didn't love about being in a sorority at first because, like, you couldn't post certain things. You couldn't say certain things. And so I kind of had to keep a lot of it, like, private. But I don't know. I didn't really speak on social media about, like, sorority life until, honestly, I graduated because I felt more, like, free and, like.

[Gia Giudice]

Like, you were also on, like, the EC Committee. Like, you had. Like, you were on exact. You had roles in your sorority, so it's not like you wanted. You probably never wanted. Wanted to say the wrong thing, but now that you're graduated, you're like, I'm free.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah. And I. I didn't want people in other sororities to, like, talk bad about me or hate me for saying these things.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

But now I'm free, and I'm like, you know what? Like, it was just a sorority.

[Gia Giudice]

It was just a sorority.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

But did. Did you leave with friends that you still have today?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yes, of course. I have so many friends in my sorority.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I love.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

I still keep in contact with all the older girls, all the younger girls, and that is my favorite thing about being in a sorority. Like, all the people that you meet. And I love being able to have older friends and younger friends. And also, like, with sorority fams, you get super close with them. And also half of my. So my friend group now, literally, my friend group is the same from freshman year of college to now it's ten of us. Five of us went one house and the other five went another house. And we're still all like best friends.

[Jennifer Fessler]

That's exactly how mine was.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Really?

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

And everybody warns you like your friends will change, which is usually true, but surprisingly, we all stay together.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, that's great. Well Chloe, thank you so much for coming on and telling your story on Dirty Rush.

[Daisy Kent]

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[Jennifer Fessler]

Hey, Chloe. Hi.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

How are you?

[Gia Giudice]

Good, how are you?

[Jennifer Fessler]

I'm good, I'm good. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for thinking of me.

[Gia Giudice]

Okay, so tell us, where'd you go to school? What sorority did you end up in?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Okay, so Syracuse. AE Phi. Very classic. Jewish girl from New York went to Syracuse. Did the Jewish sorority love it?

[Gia Giudice]

I love it. And you have a podcast, right?

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

I do.

[Jennifer Fessler]

It's called we met at summer camp. I co hosted, actually, with my best friend who I met at sleepaway camp, and also she went to Syracuse.

[Gia Giudice]

I love that.

[Jennifer Fessler]

So we were like camp and college. So we have a lot to talk about. And, yeah, we're hoping to start our second season at the end of the month, so I'm really excited.

[Gia Giudice]

That's amazing. And that's so cute that you get to do with your best friend. That's probably so fun.

[Jennifer Fessler]

It's so much fun.

[Gia Giudice]

Did you graduate already?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, I'm 24, so I graduated from Syracuse in 23.

[Gia Giudice]

Okay, wait, same. Yeah, yeah, same. We're the same age, right?

[Jennifer Fessler]

I've. I've. I've stalked you a little bit.

[Daisy Kent]

We have some.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

We'll talk.

[Jennifer Fessler]

We're the same age.

[Gia Giudice]

That's so fun.

[Daisy Kent]

And then on TikTok, you do, like,

[Gia Giudice]

some recruitment guides and use.

[Daisy Kent]

Right?

[Gia Giudice]

Yes.

[Jennifer Fessler]

So I've spoken a lot at different universities, like, different hillels and student centers. So actually 85, like, my sorority, the National Instagram, I guess, had reached out about doing a recruitment guide. So I kind of workshopped my recruitment guide. And I also have gained a lot of traction on TikTok and Instagram for doing, like, rush bag guides and, you know, what to wear for each round guides. And I really like doing it because I think, like, when I rushed, I wouldn't have considered myself, like, one of the cooler girls in the grade. Like, I was a theater kid. I was a theater major my freshman year. I did switch after freshman year, but, like, I came in there being like, yeah, I'm, like, studying drama and I love broad. Like, I wasn't, like, a cool girl by any means. And I also, like, I was in the sorority, but I wasn't the most hyper involved person. I wasn't, you know, so obsessed with it. It wasn't my identity. That said, I was always incredibly observant and I loved my friends, and I was always thinking, like, how can I help girls make joining a sorority the most positive experience possible? And I've noticed that, like, a lot of my following is, like, you know, girls in their late teens and early 20s who like this content. And if I had had TikTok, because I rushed January of 2020, when TikTok was, like, kind of first becoming popular.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

And I was like, if I had had, like, older girls doing recruitment guides, like, I would have slayed. I wouldn't have been nervous. I wouldn't have worn barrettes in my hair.

[Gia Giudice]

No, you didn't.

[Jennifer Fessler]

So I was like, you know what? I would have loved to have this. But, yeah, I do a lot of recruitment guides. It's really fun.

[Gia Giudice]

Wait, that's amazing. So, like, it's like the do's and don'ts. Like, what to wear during recruitment, what to not wear, what to expect during rush.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Like, exactly.

[Gia Giudice]

Okay, that's amazing.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Kind of do some, like, sketch parodies of like, the worst girls you'll meet during rush or.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, my gosh. You're still bringing that theater kid out with these.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Absolutely. I initially, like, went viral from doing, like, POV comedy content. I definitely bring out the theater kid from time to time.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, I love that. That's amazing. But then. So how was your rush experience? Like, yes, you ended up in alpha fee, and it was great, but how was that experience for you? Because I know you're saying you went into R. Barrettes in your hair. Like, did you ever feel judged, or was the experience actually really positive for you?

[Jennifer Fessler]

So it was a phi, not alpha fee, and they're.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, sorry.

[Jennifer Fessler]

It's okay.

[Gia Giudice]

I'm sorry.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

It's.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Oh, my gosh. It's totally fine.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Well, they're just.

[Jennifer Fessler]

They're two different houses. Yeah. I definitely, like, again, lacked a certain level of confidence when I was a freshman in college. I was definitely still a little bit, like, awkward and hadn't come into myself yet, which you don't see on social media at all. Girls who are freshmen, like, not fully being, like, confident in knowing who they are yet. Like, I really didn't. I knew going in that I think I wanted to be in more of a Jewish.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Already. I mean, obviously, like, they don't discriminate against people who aren't Jewish. But typically, AFI and SDT are, like, founded on Jewish values, and most of those houses end up being primarily Jewish, I would say. My mom was in a Phi at Oneonta, so I knew I was, like, a legacy for that house. And it was just sort of a matter of, like, where I felt more at home. When I did rush, it was really scary. I didn't know a single person going in because my freshman year, I was a theater major, which was the theater building was, like, a mile off campus. It was very isolating. It was literally, like 8 to 5, we were in the theater building. I was never on main campus, and these girls would ask me questions, and I literally would not know the answers to them. And honestly, that sparked me, like, wanting to change my major. I was like, I am getting up at 6am to, like, roll on the floor and, like, breathe and pretend to, like, become an elephant. Like, I don't even know. Like, it was just the most bizarre. Like, if you're in a BFA acting program, it's like a whole other thing. And I was like, maybe I want to be on main campus. Like, maybe I want to understand what people are talking about. Like, if you went to Syracuse, you would know this. Like, I didn't know what varsity pizza was my freshman year, which is like, it's like the like pizza spot on Marshall street, which is like that main strip. They were like, how do you not know what that is? And I was like, I only know the theater building, like, you know, so I definitely had a sense of uncomfortability because I literally didn't know anything. Yeah, I felt like all of these girls knew each other or were going in with friends and I didn't. I went in with no one. I went in like completely alone. And whether they really were confident or not, everyone seemed so much more confident than I did. Especially, I feel like, because they knew people already. Like, I. Yeah, I wound up choosing 85 just because I. I just vibed with the girls a lot more than I did in any of the other houses. Also, I, you know, the positive vibe of my mom having been in the house, I think it was good. And even though I was very happy with the bid I received, I still felt really lost on bid day because I didn't know anyone and all of these girls knew each other. It was literally like they had accepted one like mega friend group of like 30 girls where it was kind of like, you know, two or three friend groups combined into a bigger friend group and then there were a couple like random stragglers and we were all like, hey. And my friend group now is comprised of those random stragglers and we're still tight.

[Gia Giudice]

I love that.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

Any tips for girls going into like, recruitment this semester?

[Daisy Kent]

Any like, advice you would give them?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, I always say one of my main things, and this has nothing to do with the actual physical recruitment, but this is so important to me. Think about what's going in your bag. You are going to be out and on your feet all day. You're not going to have time to go back to your dorm and like change or eat or anything. Like, first of all, it's flu season. Bring some Purell. You're going to be like, shaking hands with all these people who are like, in a stuffy house meeting thousands of girls. Like, bring some Purell, bring some wet wipes.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

That's.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I narrowly avoided the flu during rush and that was huge. I would say.

[Podcast Narrator / Storyteller]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Also bring like makeup touch ups, perfume, deodorant, breath mints, change of socks, change of clothes if you need it. Also bring like snacks and water just in case you, you know, get fatigued. There are so many things. That's a more like surface tip. Obviously. I would say just be yourself because if you're trying to be cool, maybe you'll end up in an objectively, like, you know, more upper tier house, but you ultimately won't be happy.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

And you should value your happiness over, like, the ranking, I guess, because, like, I think objectively when I had rushed and I. Again, I don't really know how it is, like, now or what had happened, but I think when I rushed, like, SDT was cooler than a Phi quote, unquote, or mixed with better frats. But I didn't really care so much about that. I was like, I think I would be kind of uncomfortable. Yeah.

[Daisy Kent]

If you were in that.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

Yeah.

[Gia Giudice]

And that's honestly so good that you know yourself that well. And then after going through that rust rush process and finding, you know, your home. Is that when you started your TikToks? Like, when did your following come about?

[Jennifer Fessler]

I did not start my TikTok until after college. I was really. I had like, randomly one viral video during COVID but I think everyone randomly had one viral video during COVID Yeah. Yeah. I had one video during COVID that got like 3 million views. And since it was like that covet era, that one video gave me, like, you know, 15,000 followers, which is insane because that would never happen now. And then I didn't post. I was just like, I was embarrassed. Like, you know, and that was like. I also wanted the older girls in my sorority to, like, think I was cool.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

And so I didn't. I didn't post very much. And then it was actually like a week or two before I graduated. I was freaking out. I didn't have a job lined up. I had no idea what I was going to do. And I was like, thinking of all the things that I was good at. And I just started posting. I posted this one video and it got like 100, 200,000 views. And I was like, okay, I feel like I can. I can get behind this. Like, I can start doing it. And I started really fully posting like, five, six months after I graduated, and I would go full throttle and post like five times a day and really try to get. And at that time, I did end up having a different job and now I do it full time. But it. It took. It definitely took a bit to like, grow the following. And now I've been doing it full time for about a year, which is really awesome.

[Gia Giudice]

Chloe, I'm glad, you know, sorority life and all of the experiences helped you find your bit and, you know, helped you really express yourself and obviously your podcast, that's amazing. But thank you so much for coming on Dirty Rush today.

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[Gia Giudice]

Hi, Audrey. How are y'? All? Good, how are you? Welcome to Dirty Rush.

[Daisy Kent]

Good, thank you. So you went to the University of Texas, right? Yes. Yeah. And I graduated in 2024.

[Chloe (Sorority Member Guest)]

And what sort of.

[Daisy Kent]

I was in Alpha Chi.

[Gia Giudice]

Okay.

[Daisy Kent]

Awesome.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Yeah.

[Daisy Kent]

How was your, like, whole experience being in a sorority? I loved being in a sorority. It was. It made my college experience, especially going in from out of state. I'm from California and then I went to University of Texas and so that was a big thing going through Rush, also being out of state, but also finding the friends and home away from home, kind of for sure. Definitely switched up going from California to Texas. Yeah, I actually was born in Texas, then did a high school in California, so I wasn't completely blind to it all.

[Gia Giudice]

But I was gonna say, you sit, you say y'.

[Podcast Narrator / Storyteller]

All.

[Gia Giudice]

I was like, I feel like people in California don't say y' all unless you inherited that from going to ut.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah, my parents are always. They've been from the south and I also picked it. I would have picked it up from ut, honestly, I think y' all is a great word.

[Gia Giudice]

It's fun. It's fun, it's cute, it's charming. But I mean, clearly you had a really great experience because now you have a recruiting coach business called the Sorority Sister.

[Daisy Kent]

Yes.

[Gia Giudice]

So tell us about that.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah, so I started. I've been on social media for a while. I started posting YouTube videos in high school and it's now my full time job. And so through that content, I had been posting like social, like sorority content of living in the house and already kind of giving rush advice through that.

[Gia Giudice]

So you kind of documented your whole experience of doing it when you were a freshman?

[Daisy Kent]

Yes. So like I have a full YouTube vlog of me going through rush, crying on camera, like all the details my freshman year, which is also just so fun for me to look back on too.

[Gia Giudice]

So fun to look back on stuff like that. So then what made you really want to start this recruiting coaching business?

[Daisy Kent]

So I wanted to have all of the advice and everything in one. So something different about the Sorority Sister is we offer an online course, so it's videos from me talking through everything, and it's way more accessible than one on one coaching can be from a price point standpoint. And so I wanted to make all of the information more accessible and more like put together in one place versus scrolling through all my videos and it kind of being all over the place. And I have a partner, Kendall. She was in a sorority at Ole Miss, and so she also came to me with this idea and we were the perfect pair. And I started it in 2023, right before my senior year of college. So we made the course at that point. Also, my younger sister was going through rush, and so it was on the top of my head of like being that older sister figure from my sister. And also, like, how can I help girls who don't have that older sister who don't have the experience knowing about what rush is?

[Gia Giudice]

That's awesome. That's so cool.

[Daisy Kent]

How many girls do you have, like, is it like usually like per rush

[Gia Giudice]

that you work with?

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah, so we started in 2023 and then that was when we were kind of only doing. We have two different courses. We have a pre rush prep club course which talks about all the before things. So like your resume registration, all the things that you're kind of doing in the summer and how to prep for that, and then the rush week course where it talks about what actually happens in those houses, what you should talk about, how to prepare yourself for, like how to make this decision of what sorority to go to. And then when last. Last year in 2025, we started doing one on one clients. So we've kind of grown and still our main focus is the course clients. And we've grown throughout the years. And each year new girls go through rush, which is so exciting. Like, I love now the girls that are going to rush in fall 2026 are starting to get into colleges and already starting to reach out and thinking about rush, which I love because I think starting earlier just helps you feel more confident and prepared going into rush and fall.

[Gia Giudice]

Yeah, definitely. What do you think the biggest takeaway of your courses?

[Daisy Kent]

I think we really focus on what you want and feeling confident in yourself. So going into rush with the goal of finding your forever friends, because that's what I found in the sorority. And I think that it's more than just going the top house or going what your mom maybe want you, wants you to go. It's more about where are you going to find your best friends and the people that like you want to spend college with. And so we really think about in the course, like, what are you looking for in a friend? What kind of friend are you? What do you want out of this sorority? Experience. And then tailor that to how do you show these girls during rush what your qualities are and what you want to find that good match?

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, I love that. So it's more so of like about what's on the inside, not. Not what's on the outside.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah. And I mean, we talk about the outfits and what to say, because that's what rush is. And it's almost kind of like, I think of it too, as an interview process. If you want to be prepared going into an interview and Rush can be so overwhelming that just having more knowledge and information about it and kind of prepping what you want to say about yourself and talk to just really helps going in confidently and will help you more be yourself in this, like, crazy situation that Rush is, you know, that's so fun. And so your friend Kendall.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Right.

[Daisy Kent]

That you do it with. So. And how did you guys meet? So I actually met her. She was my. I met her through my internship that I had. She was my internship, like kind of mentor and met her through that. And she's the CMO of a company, so she has all the marketing brains. And so we're the perfect pair. And I think that she also brings another perspective of kind of what Rush used to be in all of the traditional southern things that you look for. She was recruitment counselor at her Sorority years ago. And so she kind of knows the ins and outs of behind the scenes when I bring in the newer perspective of what girls are looking for on social media and like, in these new times.

[Gia Giudice]

Did you go through rush coaching yourself?

[Daisy Kent]

No, I didn't. So I went in. I mean, my mom was in a sorority. I knew I wanted to be in a sorority. I had known, like my cousin and one of my other older friends had gone through rush. But very. I knew very minimal information. And I always say I rushed in 2020, so it was virtually. And I always say I'm so glad that it was virtual because I would have not been prepared to rush in person at a school like Texas, but I didn't. I know a lot of people who have rush coach coaching, and it's very common, especially at the kind of school that I go to. But no, I didn't have a rush coach myself.

[Gia Giudice]

Where do you hope to take your company in the future?

[Daisy Kent]

I really want to this year bring the course more in person and talking to girls in person, because right now it's very virtual and me just filming videos and then watching. But I love when I get to interact with the girls going through rush. I got to last year go to university of Georgia and university of Florida during their rush. And that is really my favorite part is connecting in person and so really bringing the course to life in person where your mom can come with you, mother daughters, and you can kind of network and also just ask questions and be more in an in person environment and learn from that. So then you're there, like on campus while they're going through recruitment. Yeah, but also I would like to. I mean, really, the prep works before rush happens, But I did go to a couple schools last year and just kind of talked to girls as they went through rush.

[Gia Giudice]

They needed, like that extra support kind of.

[Daisy Kent]

Yeah. At that point, it's just kind of encouragement. Like the sorority sister. I. We really focus on prepping you before you show up on that day. But it's fun to be that, like, face of encouragement kind of thing.

[Gia Giudice]

Oh, definitely.

[Daisy Kent]

And to be like a part of that too. Oh, my gosh, it's so fun, especially at the bigger schools, just seeing all the girls going into the houses again, like I rush virtually. And then during school, when you are a sorority girl, you're locked in the house. Like, you don't get to see the p. Ms. Outside until they come and talk to you. So it's fun fully being, like, on the outside of it and seeing everyone.

[Gia Giudice]

Well, Audrey, thank you so much and best of luck with your company. The sorority sister and I hope in person is in your near future, but thank you for coming on Dirty Rush.

[Daisy Kent]

Thanks guys.

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