Two Ts In A Pod: "Dirty Rush: They Said What?" (Feb 14, 2026)

Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge (episode features panelists Gia Giudice, Jennifer Kessler, Ben Higgins, Bob Guiney, Brett Adams, Dean Bell, and others)
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Theme: A tell-all, insider look at fraternity and sorority life, with a focus on fraternity boys answering revealing and sometimes taboo questions submitted by sorority girls and others. The conversation is irreverent, frank, and often hilarious, bringing together former Greek life members from various major universities to compare notes, swap stories, and challenge stereotypes.

Overview

This episode of "Dirty Rush" flips the script on traditional Greek life conversations: instead of focusing on sorority girl experiences, fraternity alumni are put in the hot seat. The panel – comprised of reality TV and podcast personalities with genuine fraternity backgrounds – answers questions ranging from relationships, social maneuvering, and hookups, to the less glamorous realities of fraternity living. Throughout, the discussion is frank, self-deprecating, and peppered with humor and nostalgia, offering a revealing (and often unfiltered) window into American college fraternity culture.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fraternity Backgrounds & Icebreakers

• Each panelist shares their alma mater and fraternity (University of Kansas, Michigan State, Ole Miss, Indiana, UCCS, etc.), joking about stereotypes and the dubious honor of having been "kicked out" or surviving pledge season.
• The group rib each other on their Greek affiliations:
  • "Atos at my school were meatheads." – Jennifer Kessler (05:23)
  • "I got kicked out [of Sigma Chi]." – Jennifer Kessler (05:36)

2. STDs, Sex, and 'Acacia' [07:01–09:20]

• An intentionally over-the-top riff about STD rumors in fraternities, including the running joke about 'Acacia' being both a sexually transmitted infection and Ben Higgins' fraternity.
• Nicknames based on sexual reputations—'Alaskan King Crab'—and shared stories about college health department visits.
  • "We had a nickname list...one of the guys nicknames was the Alaskan King Crab." – Bob Guiney (07:48)
  • Signature irreverence:
    • "Acacia kills. Everyone knows that." – Bob Guiney (07:33)
    • "Did you ever get an ointment or a salve?" – Bob Guiney (09:50)

3. How Fraternity Guys Signal Real Interest [10:08–12:00]

• Honest talk about how interest is communicated: it's mostly through word of mouth, friends, and date parties.
• Encouragement that, behind the bluster, most college guys are insecure and not as smooth as they appear.
  • "It's word of mouth...your buddy says, hey, this girl's interested in you." – Brett Adams (10:44)
  • "Guys will push their buddies into being interested whether they are or not." – Brett Adams (11:28)
  • "Day parties were a great opportunity to meet new people." – Jennifer Kessler (11:46)

4. Why Even the 'Charismatic' Join Fraternities [12:19–14:27]

• Myth-busting: Even at big universities with active social scenes, joining a fraternity is as much about building a smaller circle/community as it is about parties.
  • "Sometimes it helps to have some ways to make that place smaller...the frat made it even smaller." – Bob Guiney (14:32)

5. Date Parties & 'Girlfriend vs. Hookup' Decisions [19:50–22:07, 44:55–47:18]

• Most guys truly don’t differentiate right away between potential relationships and hookups; it's more often the women who "make the decision before [the guys]."
• Friendship frequently evolves into more, sometimes after a few too many drinks.
  • "In college, any...what gave me the ick was anybody that felt too forward and like, interested in talking about, like a future too quickly." – Ben Higgins (24:04)
  • "We don't hold the cards, my man." – Brett Adams (46:44)
  • "We've never been in charge...we're just trying to figure it out." – Brett Adams (47:00)

6. Biggest 'Icks' or Turn-Offs in College [22:38–28:59]

• Some answers are frank and crude: hygiene issues ("stinky vagina"), too-forward talk about the future/family, or even meth addiction at one campus.
• The conversation is raw but underscores the lack of maturity and perspective typical of college years.
  • "A stinky vagina is still better than no vagina." – Dean Bell (26:30)
  • "The question wasn't to beat them. The question was, what gives you the ick?" – Jennifer Kessler (28:04)
  • "My biggest ick in college was a girl that was, like, addicted to meth." – Dean Bell (28:33)

7. Fraternity Cleanliness & Sheet-Washing Habits [29:08–34:19]

• Comedic exchange on poor hygiene in fraternity houses; some claim twice-monthly sheetwashing is standard, others—maybe only once a semester.
  • "How often, Brett, were you washing your sheets in college?" – Ben Higgins (30:48)
  • "I would maybe hope...I wash my sheets every two weeks." – Brett Adams (30:53)
  • Debate over whether frequent sheet washing is a "rich kid" thing.

8. Grades and Dating [39:03–41:33]

• Most agree academic prowess isn’t a dealbreaker/great bonus in college relationships.
  • "I don't care if you're, like, super smart or not that smart. As long as, like, we connect on some sort of, like, emotional level, that's all that really matters to me." – Jennifer Kessler (41:23)
  • "There's something inherently attractive about...a girl that's way smarter and way more applied than I was." – Dean Bell (41:45)

9. Pledging: Best and Worst Experiences [42:33–44:39]

• Pledging universally described as "miserable" but foundational for lifelong friendships.
  • "Pledgeship sucks...the bond that I made with these guys, I still have a text chain with all my fraternity brothers...I wouldn't trade it for the world." – Brett Adams (43:08)

10. Greek Life as Development, Not Definition [47:19–53:35]

• Reflection on Greek life not as a defining era, but as an important one for personal growth, social learning, and building community.
  • "It's a season of development, not definition. So it doesn't define you, but it develops." – Ben Higgins (51:56)
  • "It's a sense of community. Everyone wants to feel like they're a part of something." – Jennifer Kessler (47:25)
  • "Anything that they feel or any way that they act or react...is so irrelevant and so fucking stupid because those guys are stupid. And you shouldn't put much stock into what a guy thinks...at that age." – Dean Bell (51:49)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sexual Health/Ick:
  • "We had a nickname list...one of the guys nicknames was the Alaskan King Crab." – Bob Guiney (07:48)
  • "A stinky vagina is still better than no vagina." – Dean Bell (26:30)
  • "If your standards are too high, lower them." – Bob Guiney quoting a friend (23:46)
• The Myth of Fraternity Confidence:
  • "We never felt in charge." – Brett Adams (46:48)
  • "We're just trying to figure it out. We had no idea what we're doing. Still don't." – Brett Adams (47:00)
• Community Value:
  • "Even though I was kicked out of my fraternity, like, it was a cool period of my life where I felt like I was a part of something." – Jennifer Kessler (47:25)
  • "It's a lovely community that, like, maybe a lot of people don't get to experience. But even though I was kicked out of this thing, it's still a big part of my life." – Jennifer Kessler (49:23)
• Perspective:
  • "It's a season of development, not definition. So it doesn't define you, but it develops." – Ben Higgins (51:56)
  • "Anything that they feel or any way that they act or react...is so irrelevant and so fucking stupid because those guys are stupid. And you shouldn't put much stock into what a guy thinks...at that age." – Dean Bell (51:49)

Useful Timestamps

• Fraternity Intros & Affiliations: 04:19–06:08
• STDs & Acacia Riff: 07:01–09:20
• Real Interest & Dating in Greek Life: 10:08–12:17
• Why Join a Fraternity?: 12:19–15:03
• Date Parties / Girlfriend vs. Hookup: 19:50–22:07, 44:55–47:18
• Turn-Offs/Icks: 22:38–28:59
• Sheets & Cleanliness: 29:08–34:19
• Grades & Dating: 39:03–41:33
• Best/Worst Pledge Experiences: 42:33–44:39
• Reflections & Greek Life Perspective: 47:19–53:35

Closing Thoughts

The episode mixes unfiltered nostalgia with genuine reflection. While much of the content is frank and comedic—sometimes bordering on raunchy—the underlying theme is one of personal growth, the search for belonging, and the lifelong impact (for better or worse) of college social circles. The hosts and guests openly acknowledge both the absurdity and the value of their Greek experiences, providing reassurance and perspective for listeners navigating—or reflecting on—their own "dirty rush."