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I don't think it is. We had like a courtyard and then like a balcony and the actives, we called them actives and we were pledges. The actives were stood on the balcony and we were in the courtyard and they just said, can you spell my last name? That was the most hazing we had the whole time. Which I could. I think my chapter might have gotten a little bit in trouble for a hazing thing before I came. So there was like zero when I came through. Not like kicked off campus, obviously, but I think they got a hand slap. So they were super careful. I think the boys definitely do. Yeah. I mean, I never heard of hazing ever. I always hear of the banana in the toilet. You guys don't know this story. I don't know if this is true. This was always the rum. Not for girls, but for boys. That the boys would. There'd be a banana in the toilet or something like that. It still sounds very gross. And the boys would have to reach into the toilet and then eat the banana. Oh. But first of all, even if it was a banana and if it was in the toilet, the fraternity house. Yeah. So I don't know if I have that right, but that was always the one. I heard fraternity houses are the grossest thing I've ever. And probably there's people in Fraternities, first of all, they're not listening to the show, but if they were, they're probably laughing, thinking that would be the least of them. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I have heard a story, and I don't know if it's true or not, of a popular school that a lot of my friends went to. They had girls. This was their version of hazing. They had girls stand on top of an MD wash. I knew that's where I heard that. On something like a dryer. They had them stand on an empty dryer that was running like a load of laundry, but there's nothing in it. So it was shaking around. And then girls would take Sharpies and, like, circle what was jiggling. Like. I've heard that I circle it. Believe that could be true, but I believe that could be true either. But I've heard people who have claimed that it has happened to them. Wow. I think I've never heard that cruel. I remember being, like, nervous about that when I was rushing that. To me, that's how widespread it, like, was, I think how everyone checks their Halloween candy. And did you know that's, like, a. Not a thing. Yeah. Thank you. Easton's here. We have one guy here that was a whole fake thing. You know how, like, your mom would be like, I have to check your Halloween candy. Yeah. Somebody's poisoning the Halloween candy. And, like, it never actually ever happened, but it became this, like, urban legend. And so here's what this feels like in the Halloween candy. Today's what this feels like. Yeah. So I think too, okay. Our initiation ceremonies really as creepy and dramatic as they are portrayed. I say, yeah, they are a little bit. You're a Kappa. Yeah. I heard Kappa's is weird. I don't know if we're any weirder than anyone else, but, like, there was definitely. This is. What will I say that I feel comfortable? Tell me. I'll tell you what I'll feel comfortable saying. Number one, there were palm fronds. I never knew what a palm frond was. Oh, we got those palm fronds. Robes, for sure. Robes. Yes. Yes. I believe there was some sprinkling of water. And I will say this, which I'm totally throwing the anonymous thing out the window, but my mom was also in my same sorority in my same house. So there was a room we got. You kind of get all paraded around and there was a room. And I won't name it, but it had, like, a certain color. And it was definitely, like, all woo woo decorated. Weird. And someone came out of the room, and they go, dude, your mom's in there. Like. And my mom was. I remember kind of being very asleep and looking up, and I'm like, my mom's in here. Like, so I feel comfortable saying that part. There's a rumor. One sorority requires their. What do you call those? The girls. The, like, pledges. Pledges to get into a casket. Not us. Not. No, I don't. It wasn't Kappa. I've never heard that. Later. It's like a Halloween, and then they wear, like, nude. This is the rumor. They wear, like, a nude bra and underwear, and they get into a casket. Not. That is not definitely. I never wear anything real for the hill, so that sounds really creepy. Like, knelt down at the front, and they, like, make you recite the stuff. Yeah, it's more like a ceremony. Did you guys have to drink anything? No, it wasn't alcohol, but we had to drink a little sip of this thing. Like the blood poison. Oh, my. Guys, I have a lot of allergies. Like, what is this? And they're like, no, like, sparkling grapefruits. They had a secret name for it. Osa. Or when people, like, go and they, like, trip, and it's, like, In this, like, convention center. Like, if somebody tried to tell me to drink something, I'd be like, absolutely. I was like, guys, I have a lot of allergies. Like, what is this? And they're like, we can't tell you. And then I drank, and I was allergic to it, so I had to go take a Benadryl. Okay. It's just, like, juice. But is that considered hazing? Then maybe. I felt like mine was like, you know how, like, if you're, like, religious or you're at church and, like, you hear the pastor say something, it just, like, hits, and you just start crying? Yeah, that's, like, how my sorority thing was. Like, I just started. Like, everyone was so emotional and, like, crying. Everyone was, like, in white room. Barely remember crying. Very fuzzy. I cannot totally remember. Our prep round was. Was where the tears came. Yeah, same. I remember our initiation was. Or at least the two I've been in were always the Sunday after Hallow weekend. So everyone was just really hungover. So, like, if there were emotions, it was, like, not from the initiation. It was a bit rough. Okay, what about this one? Did your sorority have any secret rituals? I know you said you have the secret co. Tons. I feel left out. A password, a knock, a handshake, all kinds of secret songs, all kinds of stuff. You guys didn't we had the knock. We had the handshake during rush. We had specific songs that we would sing when the girls would go through that. I don't think other sororities did, but I don't have a password. Why don't you have a password? If we didn't, they didn't tell how to message. I mean, maybe I just was left out of it. Someone's gonna listen and be like, you definitely had a password. You were supposed to know. I definitely use it as, like, a lot of my email logins. That's smart. Oh, is it true some houses have secret rooms only certain members can enter? Not that. Not that. I know. I think the chapter room had some sort of secret back room. I don't think. Do you have boys in your house? Yes. Yeah. After a certain amount of, like, not after hours. Oh, yeah. They could come. Yeah. I think ours was like, nine to five. They could come upstairs, but. Yeah. And they could eat meals. I think it's interesting too, because, like, the fraternities are the ones that always have the parties. Like at San Diego State, like. Like a sorority would never, ever have a party. No, no, Never. Never. You can't drink in the house, so how would you have a party? Well, you can't, but. Okay. Do sororities ever vote people out for not fitting an aesthetic? No. No. No. I'm glad everyone agrees on that. Yeah. I wasn't sure how other schools were, but I. Yeah. Before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more fun. But here's a confession. Are you a Charlotte listeners? You can find that fun feeling again on ebay. Because on ebay, it's not just shopping. It's a full on fashion pursuit. And when you find the thing, that adrenaline hit is real. I went on to ebay to look for a super special vintage jacket for Charlotte to wear to the gallery. 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I think it was new because I'm old. To wear a skirt to, like, Monday night dinner. No, no. I wear swimsuits. But Monday night was chapter, so you have to wear a dress. So, like. Yeah. Monday night we had to wear to the dinner. I don't remember what my mom. You had to wear a skirt, but it was so. It was like the 90s. So people would literally be wearing jeans and pull a skirt over it. We would do something. We'd wear, like, a boots and a dress. Yep. And then that was about the shoes. That was the night, too. It was like a more formal dinner. I don't totally remember how that worked, but it was definitely more formal. Yeah. Because it was right in China or anything, but. So you had to be dressed to go into chapter. You eat paper plates. We use. No, they were, like, ceramic. We had, like, special china that we would have for, like, very formal dinners. Oh, wow. Okay. We'd have it, like, a couple times a year. It was like the special Katy china. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. Fancy. Do sororities burn or. Yeah. Burn or bury items during initiation ceremonies? No. No, no, no, no. Okay, good. Juicy, weird question. Is there really a blood oath or vow that lasts forever? No blood. No blood. I think the vow is kind of, like, figurative. Like, I promise to, you know, be with these sisters for life, but it's like, no one's holding you to that. Yeah. I think you, like, say it during. We all live together. We all also probably vowed not to expose the secrets that were exposing the password. That's why I feel okay about it, holding that password. As long as you don't give away the password. No golden rule. I won't give you my knock or my handshake either. Nope. I'll give it to the other girl. My sorority. Right here. Okay. Is what you see in the movies, like Legally Blonde or the House Bunny remotely accurate? Feels too pink for me. Very girly stereotype. I just think about that one scene from Legally Blonde where the date is coming to the house and all the girls are peeking over the balcony and out the windows and stuff. That's like, wait, that's kind of real. We did that. Really? Yeah. When we lived in the house, we had a front balcony that looked over. And if a girl was going to go on a date, like one of our friends, he had to come up and like pick her up from the door. And we would all be like standing on the balcony watching. Oh my gosh. Yeah. My room, like, outlooks are little porcelain. That's real. Yeah. What's going on? It was kind of real. Yeah. How cinematic. Maybe they were inspired. Okay. Is it true that some sororities have date dungeons or secret hookup rooms? No. Gross. No. That is so gross. I would say like flatline. Like, not intentionally, but there just happens to be rooms that like have continuously been like the hookup room. Like bring a guy. Well, no, like, it's like there's like the guest bathroom, like in your roommate's home or there's like a basement. Like there's just sort of. You can, I don't know, figure things out. Cameras everywhere in the house. We have a thing called the date room. Yeah, we have that. But you would just like, it's so old timey again, proper. You'd be like, no one even went in the date room. I'm trying to think of like, I never brought my boyfriend good night. But like, nobody's doing like, we definitely had a basement room that it was like people would watch tv, but we had no basement. Scandal. Okay. Do members really keep secrets for life? Like, you'd get in trouble if you told. Yes. I still am afraid if I tell you from somebody being like, you are no longer a sister, there does there has to be like some like psychological thing with that because, like, it is like a fear. I feel like a lot of people have like totally like, they like engrave like a trust in you or something. Yeah. I feel like if you take. They make you feel so special for being chosen to be in the sorority. Like you chose each other kind of thing. Yeah. Where I feel like you just feel like. I don't know how to explain it. It's why we, when we created this show, we wanted people to feel they could be anonymous because all these things, TikTok Hulu's thing, you know, lifetimes thing, they're never really good because they people are too afraid to actually tell their true stories. So that's why we feel like this podcast is good. Yeah. Despite your mean reviews. We get those too. But we'll read Those. One of these upcoming episodes. We'll read those. But we feel like because people are anonymous, they actually will tell more than they would. Yeah. Otherwise, I think the thing, too, about being in a sorority, like, it's so fun, and I honestly, it helped me so much in college, but, like, I love, like, all my, like, crazy stories that I have from it. Like, I feel like a lot of people when they, like, call in and, like, talk to. It's like these crazy stories that, like, happened in their sorority, but a lot of time people don't want to share them because they're like, oh, is it bad if I share that? But I'm like, they're just, like, fun college stories. But I do like that I know the password and I won't name her because she's anonymous. But the girl next to me, I know she's in my same sorority, and I know she knows the password. And we kind of. It's like a bond. Feel like there's a little, like, extra bond between us. Yeah. When we first met, you gave me the handshake, and I have to admit, I almost didn't remember it, but. But, yeah, that's like, a special thing. It was very special. Okay, last question. Do sorority members secretly blacklist girls they don't like? Yes, for sure. Yeah. I think, like, going. It's not a secret, though, right. Hometown con. Hometown con. You would stand up in the meeting and say. You would probably say something like, I'm so sorry, guys, but this is a hometown con. Because blahdy blah. Yeah. Yeah. Did bloody, bloody, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. I feel like there's. Every sorority probably has a system where they. If someone did something really bad in high school, they find a way to make sure Rush team knows. Yeah, we have that, too. It's called, like, character concerns. Because it's like, genuinely, like, if that hypothetical person joins the house and then makes a bunch of other people that they know from home uncomfortable. Like, if they are not a good person, then, like, we don't want them here. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like we don't like them because, like, oh, they're not pretty or something. It's like, if they're a bad person. Yeah. Like, we don't want you to be a part of. Yeah. Because you don't know. Social media has made it easier now, but back before, it was such a big part of Rush, I feel like, you know, you just kind of have to go based off of other people's experiences with them, and you kind of have to do it. Did Any of your. This never happened in my house. But I heard about it where girls would steal clothes or jewelry or things from, like, someone's room. This never happened at my house. I never. But I did hear about it across the street. Why do I think. I feel like it faintly happened in mine? I, like, can't fully remember, but, like, that sounds familiar. That was food. Oh, food. Still have that with food? Because we have, like, a communal fridge. And we found the culprit because it was this, like, junior when we were all sophomores. And, like, it's totally fine, but I think she had this mentality of, like, okay, well, if it's not a girl's food that I know, no one's gonna know. But then we all would, like, everyone was separately catching her eating a food belong to her, like, multiple. We didn't have locks on the doors. Did you. Do you have locks on your bedroom doors? Oh, wait. You could lock it if you were inside. But we, like, didn't have a key. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We didn't have. Actually, I don't think you could even lock it. I don't know. I think. Yeah, locked on our house. It's also, like, I'm pretty sure we had cameras in ours. In your rooms? Not in the rooms, but, like, in the hallways. Our halls didn't. Residence halls didn't have cameras. But, like, everywhere else in the house, even the stairs had cameras, I think cameras. Is there any other, like, rumor or, like, I don't know, do you call it a misnomer? Is that the right word? Like, something that people always think about? Sororities that are actually not true. I mean, we didn't have pillow fights, that's for sure. We did slide down the stairs with our mattresses, like, in the Princess Tire. Yes, we did. Yeah, we took our little twin mattresses off of the bed and, like, slid down the stairs one night. But that's not a rumor. That's just, like, a funny little memory that we have. That's cute. Yeah. I think, honestly, for me, like, being in a sorority, like, I didn't know much about it, and I was like, that's so stupid. I'm never gonna do that. My roommate was like, will you please, like, rush with me? And she paid my, like, rush fee or whatever to do it. And I was like, okay, whatever. I'll do it. And, like, I have, like, my favorite times and, like, my best memories in it. Yeah, I would go back 100%. Like, I'm hoping that when I'm, like, 80, that there's a bunch of other 80 year old sorority sisters and they're like hey, I'm alone too. Wanna live there again? We'll all just live together and play mahjong or something. I would totally go back. I miss it every day. Totally. Me too. 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Do you guys think our legacies guaranteed a spot? It's not guaranteed, but I think it can help. Not anymore. But what I know, which I didn't know then, was because I was a legacy when I made it, to which my mom knew. So I was like on pref night stressing and my mom slept like a baby because she knew. So it used to be. And this has changed. If you were a legacy and you got to pref night, you would be on the top of the list. Yeah. And they won't cut you. Yeah. If you go to pref night and you're a legacy, you're in. But the rusher doesn't know. But the girls in the house know. And like the mom knew. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's how it goes at San Diego State too. I don't think it's like that at Ole Miss because there's like weird glitches that can happen sometimes when like this girl picks the sorority and that sorority picks her and something I actually know for a fact, that's happened to a few people and it doesn't work. And then they get dropped. You also couldn't get dropped on the first day if you were a legacy. In my era, it's not. That doesn't work. So kind of I think probably like that for a lot. So, Gracie, since you were in your sorority and then your little sister was in the same one, was she considered a legacy or does it have to be your mom? I think she was considered like sister in house. Okay. That's like the strongest there is. But if you're an in house sister, yeah, it is the strongest. But there are stories and there are girls. I know of a couple, and on top of my head, in house sister stuff went down. Marjorie over there, what's your name? I don't remember. Morgan. Morgan. That happened to Morgan? Yeah, happened to my younger sister. They dropped her right off the bat. And you want to know why I think that was? Is because her rogue gamma was in my sorority. She didn't know that. And she told her, oh, I'm open to doing anything. Not even that she didn't want to go my house, but just that she was open to exploring other options too. And after the next round, do you think rogue games and row Kai's are calling the house and like, breaking the rules? Because I never thought. Okay, it almost really. Yeah, they're snitches. They're sleuths out there. Maybe they are. I always feel like the girls that did that were very. Like, they weren't that involved in their sorority. Yeah, they were trying to find a home elsewhere, but, like, they liked their sorority. I don't know how to explain it. Whoa, that makes sense. Maybe they were. I feel like they were devoted to their job where they were like, you will never find out what sorority I'm in. Yeah, I don't know. I have a question for you. Oh, gc, I'm ready. Do you guys think they should be guaranteed a spot? Legacy? See, I do. I think they should bring the legacy thing back. I think it's like a bummer that that's not around anymore, because it doesn't mean you're automatically in. But there was something I liked about the tradition of that and the whole legacy of what the sorority is. Yeah. There's something I liked about the bloodline. The Kappa bloodline. Yeah. No, I agree. I think that they can be, like, noticed as a legacy, which they, I think still are. But I don't think you should be, like, guaranteed to get dropped. But if you get to prep, I do like that you would get to go on the top of the list. I mean, there's something about it I like. Yeah. Okay, my question for you is. And they've done away with it now, but do you recall during rush, the active member would go out and yell out to the pnm, the potential new member, and they would pick based off of who is liked the most in order? Does that make sense? Wait, explain it. Explain it more. So I'm the active member, and y' all are the PNM's. Are we pledges already? Are we in? No, this is during rush week. Okay. And I. Instead of going in alphabetical order, which is how they do it now, they would call out their, like, favorite girl. So they'd be like, so and so. And then toward the end of the line, like, you could tell this house didn't really like you because you were like, no, I don't know anything about that. They didn't do that for you. What we knew was as, like, Rushies. We were called Rushies. Like, if. If a bunch of Actives were coming over. So, you know, you're sitting throughout the house and, like, bump groups are going. If a lot of Actives were coming over and like, oh, hey. Oh, hey. You know, Or Susan told me to come say, hey. I think you kind of got a feeling like, oh, I think this is going okay for me. I think this is going well here. They still do that for sure. Yeah. But. Yeah, when they. So I don't know how they did it for y', all, but you stand outside of the house. All the Rushies stand outside of the house. And then members from the side. Oh, when you're coming in, they run out and they go, john Doe, right? Jane Doe. John Doe. Jane Doe. And then she, like, runs up. But usually it's like. Like A to Z. But I. This may just be a rumor. Wait, why do I. No, I think something like that happens at San Diego State, where they would be like, oh, we think, Daisy, like, if you're in front of the house. Yeah. You, like, stand in your Rhodium group. Yeah. And I'm just standing excited to welcome back. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. That's what it is. Oh, I don't remember this at all. I just remember all walking in. In a big clump. You would stand in lines, which. It was in alphabetical order for us. But if way back when, I don't know if it's a rumor or not, but they're like, oh, Daisy Kent. Like, we really need to, like, show her we love her. They call her name first. Gracie would, like, come home and be like, I'm so excited to talk again to Daisy Kent. And then I'd, like, walk up. Is that what y' all would do? Ours would just be. We'd, like, scream the name as loud as we could, and the girl would run. But none of you got dirty rushed. I did. Yeah, you did, too. What happened to you? It was. It was just afie, actually. They, like, this is, like, dramatic. Maybe not dirty Rush, but they just, like, DM'd me on Instagram, and apparently DM'd like a bunch of girls maybe looking at the, like, class of 2020, whatever, during a rush. This was right before, like, I wanted to make sure that you sent in the application to show your interest in rushing. If you have any questions, like, let me know. And they say in the message, like, they're kind of. They're not alluding to, like, oh, join, like, our sorority, but they're just like. Like, it's obviously kind of. You can imply, like, okay, this girl in the sorority is DMing me. Then, like, maybe they're nice. Maybe I'll join them. Yeah. I can't remember if I told this story, but I definitely got phone calls during rush. I don't want to out one of my, like, literally oldest friends still. And she would call my. Because I lived in a different. Not. You know, I lived in a different place. We didn't live in the sorority our freshman year, so we all lived somewhere. And the phone would ring landline. We didn't even have cell phones. And the voice would say, say, hi, mom. And I was like, hi, mom. But it was the girl calling from the house to find out, like, to get dirt. Like, okay, wow, who likes us? What's happening? Tell us. Who likes us? Interesting. So I was like, I'll tell you everything. And I still was not, like, realizing, like, I'm in. I still was, like, very nervous, like, I hope they take me. And then I was like, wait a minute. I should have put two and two together. They wouldn't let us bring our phones. That's something that's different from then verse. Now we had to leave our phones, like, in our dorm room. We could not bring our phones. And when we would go and do ranking, at the end of the day, you could not say a peep in line. So there was, like, one time where I got in trouble, but now. Now you do it on your phone. Like, it's crazy. Yeah, we Went to this big, like, big. Yeah. Classroom, and I accidentally, like, bumped into a girl and I was like, oh, sorry. And the lady was like, don't talk. Do you guys know what a Scantron is? Yeah, I think we filled it out on a Scantron. I think we kind of did too. Are you older, too? How old are you? 25. Oh, whoa. Yeah, no, I think we're old, miss. I remember filling out bubbles. I think Scantron. I want to say we did something very similar to that. He's kind of being panicked. Like, whoa. Yeah, it was on paper. 1B, you know, making like 50 checks to make sure I was not blowing the Scantron. I don't know why that's what I think, but that's like what my memory is. Yeah. Thinking I could be totally risky. Like, yeah, definitely. Like, your preferences could like disappear or be changed or like a pencil. I know. Yeah, that sounds risky to me. We were. We did ours on the computer, but we did. We didn't have computers in the 90s. Like there was. We didn't have cell phones and we didn't have computers. I had like an Apple ii. You had to like etch us into rocks. Yeah, like, like Wilma Flintstone. I was like, I want Kappa into this stone. Should it in there. Well, this was dirty. Okay, everyone remember, if you have any more questions you want us to debunk or have any tea you want to spill, call us at 844-278RUSH. That's 844278RUSH. Or if you don't want to call in, you can also email dirtyrush iheartradio.com you will be kept anonymous, so call in. Give us the tea, give us the juice, give us everything. Thanks for tuning in. Love you guys. Bye. Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. 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