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Gia (3:28)

Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life, with your hosts, me, Gia

Riley (3:33)

Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.

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Welcome back to Dirty Rush. We're continuing our conversation with influencers who live the sorority experience firsthand. We're back with part three.

Riley (3:49)

So nice to meet you. I'm Riley. Nice to meet you, too. G has been telling me how amazing you are.

Gia (3:55)

Wait, I know you. I know you went to Arizona, but I didn't know you were in a sorority.

Riley (3:59)

Yeah, I was. I loved it, too. Sorority were you in? I was in Delta Zeta. Okay, cool.

Caitlin (4:07)

Graduate.

Riley (4:08)

I graduated in May, so, like, not even recently. Yeah, Congrats. Thank you.

Gia (4:14)

Okay, so take the girls through your rush process. I'm sure your outfits were insane, so let's hear all about it.

Riley (4:22)

It was so crazy because I'm originally from Louisiana, so rushing out there and, like, in the south is totally different. And, like, rushing is not everyone's vibe. That's, like, for sure. And that's how I felt. Like in the South, I was like, oh, absolutely not. Like, I will not be the Southern belle, like, screaming at the door. Like, that was just, like, my vibe. And then I went to Arizona, and I was on a cheer team, like, my entire life. So I was like, I have to. Like, I need some sense of, like, community. I need my girls. Like, I didn't know what to do. Especially, like, moving across the country to go to college. Like, I was 18. I had no idea what I was doing. And, yeah, I just, like, embraced the process. I was like, whatever happens, it's gonna happen. One of the, like, sororities there is, like, top sorority, like, in the nation. And so I had someone, like, in my life at the time was, like, telling me all about that and was like, oh, my gosh, you have to rush this sorority. Like, they're top in the nation. They're top at asu. Like, that was the vibe. So I kind of, like, had that in the back of my mind. And I remember just, like, walking into Delta Zeta, and Delta Zeta was not the house she was talking about. And I walked into Delta Zeta, and I was like, this is it. I had full body chills. I was like, no. Like, sorority's not for me. Like, I was in there, like, crying, like, body. And I was like, yeah, this is my home.

JMU Sorority Member (5:52)

This is it for me.

Riley (5:54)

And then ever since then, like, I was like, that's it. Like, I didn't listen to her. And, like, I remember them saying, like, you end up in the house like, you're supposed to be in. Like, whatever happens is meant to happen, even if, like, you don't. If that's, like, where you want it to go in the first place. And there was, like, time. Cause, like, my. My best friend and my roommate went the house and, like, my. My second choice, and there was so many times where I was like, did I make the right decision? Like, I would, like, overthink it all the time. And as, like, the weeks went by, I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, yes. Like, everything's so clear. I, like, went. So I went the right house. But, yeah, it was, like, such a good experience. I love that you had such a good time. Yeah.

Gia (6:39)

So then would you recommend rushing a sorority to girls who are listening this podcast?

Riley (6:44)

Oh, for sure. Like, it just brings that sense of, like, home away from home. I know. It's like, everything that, like, sorority say, it's like, oh, my gosh. Everyone says that, but it's true. Like, when you find the right one, like, you actually embrace it. And you don't, like, listen to, like, the people that are like, oh, my gosh, you're paying for friends or, like, whatever else it is. Like, it's actually your home away from home. Like, it's the girls that will literally be in your wedding one day. Like, it's the girls that are going to be there. When you go through your breakup in, like, college and you think your life's over, like, they're, like, picking you up like, that. I don't know. College is such, like, an intense time, so I would recommend it. Like, when I went through rush and I saw the girls in Delta Zeta. I was like, this is like, I want to be just like them. Like, I want to. It was. It was a situation where I was like, I not only can, like, see myself here and, like, being friends with them, but, like, they're also, like, inspiring me at the same time. The girl, like, rushed, like, to the end, like, I was talking to, like, every day, basically. She's like, what helps me is I look around, I'm like, could I see my best friend that I had, like, all throughout childhood? Or, like, my best friend in high school? Like, could I see them in this room, like, fitting in? And if your answer is yeah, then, like, that's a really good sign. And I was like, yeah, like, my best friend would totally be in this room, so I'd recommend it 1 million percent. That's awesome.

Gia (8:04)

When did you start tick tock and starting. Like, when did you start social media?

Riley (8:10)

I started social media my junior year of high school. So I had been doing it for a couple of years, but it really didn't play a part into me rushing at all. Like, okay, I. In my heart and in my soul, my body. I didn't ever feel like social media was any, like, one up. Like, it didn't separate me from people. Like, still to this day, like, when I talk to, like, followers of mine, like, all I can say is, I am just the same as you. And that's all I've ever wanted to feel. Yeah. And that's all I've ever wanted, like, other people to feel. So being in a sorority only made it more, like, grounding for me. And, like, I would be going on brand trips and I could, like, come back to, like, my sorority house and, like, all my sorority sisters are, like, sitting there and, like, just doing normal college things. So it really didn't play that big of a part into it. And I always. People always say, like, ASU is like, such the influencer school. Like, everyone there is, like, has followers or is, like, trying to be an influencer. And so I guess maybe that, like, played into it a little bit because I didn't feel different.

Gia (9:21)

You didn't feel different while you were rushing either?

Riley (9:23)

Not at all. Like, was everyone were around kind of,

JMU Sorority Member (9:27)

like, tiktoking and stuff too?

Riley (9:28)

Oh, yeah, for sure. Like, I tiktoked the whole thing. I. Yeah, I was videoing everything. But no, never, never once, like, did they make me feel like any of the houses ever make me feel, like, different than anyone else. So I think that definitely plays into the part of, like. That's why my experience was probably so good, is they made me feel like just the next person, which is, like, how I want to be. Like, that's how I want to feel. So, yeah, yeah. Not. Not a problem at all.

Gia (9:57)

And you also have your amazing clothing brand called Jane Doe. When did you start that?

Riley (10:05)

Yeah, I started that my sophomore year, actually. I honestly, like, I was with a guy, so I met my boyfriend or my boyfriend at the time, like, the first day of college. He was the first guy I ever talked to, and we kind of had like, gone through some stuff, and it was spring break. He, like, went off with his friends to Hawaii, and I was, like, stuck in Arizona, and I was like, oh, my gosh, I hate this. Like, I need to, like, boss up really quick. So my mom was like, you need to come home. She flew me home, and in one night, I had, like, a website, an llc, the name, like, all of that, and it just, like, started from there.

Gia (10:45)

That's incredible. And wait, what's the.

Caitlin (10:47)

Why.

Gia (10:48)

How did you come up with the name Jane Doe?

Riley (10:50)

Yeah, so my middle name is Jane, and so I wanted to, like, kind of play into that. And then a Jane Doe is. Or, like, a John Doe is like, an unidentified person. And Jane Doe is, like, the girl version of that. And I just thought it was cool because I'm so, like, I always say, like, be the. Be you. It's the best. Best way to be. It's the best version to be. Like, don't try to be someone else. Like, as long as you're just being yourself, that's the best way to be. And so I'm like an unidentified. You don't have to be identified as one thing. Like, you don't have to be, like, streetwear. I don't have to be, like, Southern belle. Like, be you. Like, that's just it. So I don't know. And I love the name Jane Doe. I feel like it's super.

Gia (11:30)

No, it's unique. And also, a lot of your pieces, you can play off of them to make them whatever you want. So they're reliable pieces that you can just build on and make into whatever your style or personality is.

Riley (11:43)

Exactly. That's the goal. That's. That was the goal.

Gia (11:46)

Here we go. Jane Doe.

Riley (11:48)

Yeah. Love it. Do you have any, like, advice for girls going into Rush right now? Yeah, for sure. I would say my biggest advice is just, like, keep an open mind. Like, everyone says it, but don't go a house, because the person you met in Rush was going that house like that is just like not how it works. And my biggest thing is like everyone, everyone says this is be yourself. But like you have to really like honey, like focus on that. Because if you walk into a house and you are trying to fit in, you will spend the rest of your college experience feeling like you don't fit in. Because during that process you were trying to form into how this house particularly was instead, just like being yourself, going to these houses like you want them to accept you as who you are so that the rest of your time just is way better. That's my advice is don't listen to other people and just be yourself and you will end exactly where you're supposed to even if your experience doesn't go exactly how you want. Stick it out and it might be the best thing that's ever happened to you. That's amazing.

Gia (13:04)

I love that.

Riley (13:04)

Riley, that's great advice.

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Riley (17:04)

Hey, Taylor.

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So where did you go to school?

JMU Sorority Member (17:08)

I went to James Madison in Virginia.

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Sorry, were you in?

JMU Sorority Member (17:13)

Yeah, I was in Theta.

Riley (17:14)

Okay, cool. Did you have an overall good experience?

JMU Sorority Member (17:19)

Yeah, I loved it. I loved it.

Riley (17:21)

I.

JMU Sorority Member (17:22)

It's how I met all my best friends, so I'd say pretty good experience.

Gia (17:27)

Did you always know that you wanted to be in a sorority?

JMU Sorority Member (17:31)

Yeah, that was one thing. I was always very confident In I'm super girly and was into everything that came with the sorority. But I also kind of jokingly said that I was a bare minimum sorority girl because I'd make my friends. I love the community, but I didn't hold any leadership positions or I wasn't the most strict about it. So I always joke that I enjoyed the friends aspect and the bonds you made, but yeah, yeah.

Riley (17:59)

How did you start doing content? Did you start when you were in school?

JMU Sorority Member (18:04)

Yeah, that's actually how I got my start was I was a freshman at JMU kind of during COVID and I'd post a ton of like, what to pack for college, like what I wore during rush, how to study, what it's like being in a sorority and like that college niche and then kind of just expanded it to all things lifestyle. But yeah, that's why being in a sorority and JMU has such a special place in my heart because it kind of grew my love for the social media world in that industry.

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But it's so interesting. Like, I feel like now how much

JMU Sorority Member (18:36)

social media can play like an aspect

Riley (18:40)

in like literally like changing people's lives.

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Is social media now one of like your full time job?

JMU Sorority Member (18:46)

Yeah, right now it's my full time job and it's like the best thing ever.

Gia (18:50)

So that's amazing. So how do you think sorority rush shaped you into being the person that you are today?

JMU Sorority Member (19:00)

That's such a good question. I feel like it gave me good. I would say, like life skills, like people skills. Like, I feel like so much of college is what you learn outside of the classroom, and I feel like it prepared me for life after college better.

Riley (19:17)

Yeah.

JMU Sorority Member (19:18)

So, yeah.

Riley (19:19)

Do you think that like rush Talk on like TikTok. Do you think that has made it like more competitive to get into a sorority?

JMU Sorority Member (19:30)

Yeah, I think so. I feel like it depends on your college too, but I definitely think social media has blown it up and also glamorized it a little bit. And so, I mean, I had a great experience, but I can also see why it gets stereotyped as maybe being stressful or very cliquey. I could see why that would stress girls out as well and just competitive because so many girls want to be in one.

Gia (19:56)

I totally agree. Did you know about your school's rush process before starting?

JMU Sorority Member (20:03)

Honestly, no. Like, no, I had no idea. Like, going into it, I knew it wasn't in the summer. Like in the southern schools, they're doing it like you go early for it. I knew it was like mine was end of September. So that was. And we were doing on, like, two weekends, and that was all I knew. So it wasn't as intense, but they were still, like, full, like, 6am to 9pm days each, both weekends. So it was definitely still intense. But I didn't really know what I was getting into until I just already signed up for it.

Riley (20:33)

On Rush Talk, I feel like you see, like, all, like, these videos and girls doing, like, get readies with me and, like, what they're gonna wear. Do you think there's any, like, lies, like, behind the Rush Talk? Because I feel like you can't always talk about what's going on within your sorority because, like, the rules and stuff?

JMU Sorority Member (20:54)

Yeah, yeah, no, I feel like that's a huge part of it. Like, they make it very clear what topics to avoid. I can't remember exactly, but I want to say it was like the three Bs. Like, beer boys and something else. Like, basically saying, like, you want to keep it very pg. You don't want to talk about anything too controversial, like, during the recruitment process, at least. But then I also think they wanted the girls in the sorority to keep a good, clean social media presence too, because then that would impact the sorority. But that was never an issue for me because I feel like I was never the type to go posting all my alcohol or something. I wasn't like that at all. But I definitely could see why some girls would be like, oh, this is off limits, or, I don't know, there's a fine line. Or I remember during Rush, they all the people say, like, don't bring up boys at all. And one girl in the room brought up, like, her dad, and then she quickly stalking and was, like, nervous, but it's like, it's her dad. Like, no one. No one really cared. But there's definitely the overthinking part where you're like, oh, should I have just said that, or am I going to get in trouble?

Gia (22:03)

No, I totally understand that. How would you explain your sorority experience to someone who's never been in one?

Caitlin (22:12)

Good one.

JMU Sorority Member (22:13)

That's such a good question. I feel like I'd like the process or just being in a sorority in general.

Gia (22:19)

I think all of it, you know, like, if somebody looked at you and was like, why should I join a sorority? Or do you think this is the right decision? Like, what would you say to that person?

JMU Sorority Member (22:30)

I definitely. I think I would encourage them to go for it just because the worst that could happen is that you drop. Like, if that's the worst that can happen. And I think it's a great way to give yourself a community in college. And I especially think if you go to a bigger school too, it's really hard to find your people. And there's the girls doing sports and then there's theater and the more musical industry. And so I felt like being in a sorority kind of gave me that identity. And I remember in high school feeling like I was one of those girls that, like, I was never really into sports, but I also wasn't really into music or theater. But I always felt like I had this creative side. And I remember thinking like sorority, like life is perfect because it's like, it's social. You're also doing a lot of volunteer work, which I truly believe in. You're surrounding yourself with people with good values. And I don't know, it's fun, like the fashion, like the outfits, like they make decks on what to wear and fast. So it's kind of creative and fun. So I'd encourage someone to go for it and if they didn't like it, they could always leave it. But I feel like, I definitely think, at least from my school, it definitely gets this like very intimidating aspect. But I found most of the girls, honestly, like all were pretty nice and welcoming with open arms.

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I did.

Riley (28:24)

I started college really young.

Caitlin (28:26)

I graduated high school when I was 14. So I had applied to UCLA, found out I got in just shooting my shot with my dream school. It was either that or usc, just because I was not going to move across the country at such a young age. But thank goodness I ended up being a Bruin, because that's where my loyalty has always lied. But of course, when I first started school, I was not thinking about anything social, to say the least. I was still doing all of the high school things with my friends and just going to class like a normal high schooler would. I mean, I wasn't even old enough to drive yet.

Riley (29:03)

Did you live at home?

Caitlin (29:04)

I did.

Riley (29:05)

I lived at home.

Caitlin (29:06)

So I live about 15 minutes away from campus, so. But I had to get dropped off at class in the morning and picked up in the afternoon, so it was a very strange experience, to say the least.

Gia (29:17)

And so did you not dorm?

Caitlin (29:19)

I didn't dorm, but I remember telling my mom when the first guy tried to hit on me after class, I

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even though he was probably not that old, he was like 20 or 21, which to me was way too old at having just turned 15. Yeah, I had just turned 15.

Gia (29:41)

Wow. So you graduated high school at 14 and then you were 8, you got into UCLA and you were a freshman in college at 15 years old?

Caitlin (29:50)

Yes. Wow. It was a very non traditional experience, to say the least.

Riley (29:56)

When did you end up joining a sorority then?

Caitlin (30:00)

So right after I started college. That was fall 2019. And then everything shut down because of COVID midway through my first year. So it definitely benefited me, despite how horrible Covid was, but it definitely benefited me having online school so that I could do all of the high school things with my friends. I still hung out with a high school friend group, went to homecomings, proms, and kind of wrapped up that experience in my first two years of college that were all online. And then the world opened back up again in 2021, and I was 17, almost 18 throughout that year. And that is when I decided that I wanted to get involved. All of my friends were about a year older than me and had graduated high school, so I could finally have the true freshman experience.

Gia (30:50)

So you felt like you were kind of now on the same track?

Caitlin (30:54)

Yes. So even though I was a junior, it felt like I was having the freshman experience and I never saw myself wanting to join a sorority. I had the preconceived idea that they were culty and weird and I didn't want to buy my friends and. But my mom was in a sorority. She was an Alpha Gamma Delta and had the time of her life in Greek life and kept encouraging me to go to all of the socials and get to know what rush is like. And I had the idea that I could go through sorority rush, meet girls in all of these different houses, make friends across the row, and then I would never have to join, but I would have so many friends immediately, which was, I thought, my perfect plan. And then I ended up going through rush and meeting all of these amazing girls who I loved. And they told me about how they were going to be watching the Bachelor on Monday nights together and having a Met gala watch party and having chapter dinners and going on retreats. And I had the biggest FOMO ever. And I was like, you guys are going to be doing all of these things without me. And that's when they hooked me and I knew that I had to join.

Gia (32:06)

Oh, I love that. And so then how was the experience for you being younger?

Caitlin (32:13)

I loved it, honestly. It felt like I had a huge group of built in big sisters, even with the girls in my pledge class, which is a lot of fun, but talking about things like, I don't know how off the record I can go, but I mean, most girls had a fake ID going to college and it had like all of these experiences with guys and I was so new to all of that territory, so it allowed for a lot of people to take me under their wing and show me the ropes of that, those kind of experiences that I didn't have in high school because I graduated so young.

Gia (32:45)

Wow, that's amazing.

Riley (32:47)

So you really did have, like, such a good time.

Caitlin (32:49)

Yeah, I had such a great time. I rushed Alpha Fee, met a lot of my best friends there who I still keep in touch with. A couple of my close friends are still seniors and about to graduate this year. And it was the best decision. I'm so glad I did it. And I had a really great experience in Greek life.

Gia (33:08)

That's amazing. And did you feel differently in any way? Because I know throughout your life you obviously have been in a bunch of roles and you're in the acting world, so you had some sort of a following going into College. I mean some of the things that you were in are insane. I, I see clips of good doctor all the time and I'm like this is amazing. So I mean kudos to you. I know the list like goes on and on and on from chosen young Sheldon Criminal Minds. Like it's insane. So kudos to you. But how did was that, did that affect your experience at all? Going into college and especially being so young?

Caitlin (33:51)

It was a little bit different having a sense of responsibility and working. During my first year of school, I definitely had to miss out on a handful of social events to either prioritize an audition or I flew away a couple of times to film something. But I was very lucky to end up in a chapter where all of the girls were super career driven. So we had a lot of pre med students, girls on the dance team and people who also had this kind of bigger responsibility outside of Greek life. So I never felt like punished or shamed for missing things. And it was a very supportive environment. And then when you have friends who are striving on their own path and wanting to follow their dreams and being very career oriented and make it makes you want to be busier and better at the same time. So that was a great environment for me at least. But I guess like the only thing that I really noticed about being younger than everyone else was just I guess more in like mixers with the frat environments. It was so even though I was 17, definitely called jail bait a lot of times, which is so fair. I'm glad that they didn't want to talk to me because I didn't really have any interest. So. But besides that made a lot of great friends.

Gia (35:01)

Yeah. No, but I'm also sure like the experience throughout your life, just like graduating high school so early and going into that college environment so young, you were probably also extremely mature for your age especially being so career driven. Like you were probably a 30 year old living in a 17 year old body. Like really like the mentality wise. And I always got that too growing up because I had to grow up a bit little, little faster than most kids as well. And it really like it probably it made you who you are today. So everything happens for a reason. And it's, you know, this is why you're getting your master's now at ucla. So that's amazing.

Caitlin (35:38)

Yeah, I definitely had a unique perspective so I could say that I had accomplished certain things or been working a quote unquote full time job my whole life. But I was like, oh, I've never taken a shot of alcohol on the other hand. So it was fun to kind of find that balance and experience with my friends as I got older and meshing my like social age and professional age at the same time which and that was fun.

Riley (36:04)

That is great. Well Caitlin, thank you so much for coming on and thank you for having me.

Gia (36:09)

Best of luck.

Caitlin (36:10)

Thanks.

JMU Sorority Member (36:11)

Bye.

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