Divorce, Deceit & So. Much. Drama. (The Valley Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: Divorce, Deceit & So. Much. Drama. (The Valley Recap)
Release Date: April 17, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod, hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge delve deep into the latest season of The Valley, unpacking the tumultuous relationships, shocking betrayals, and intense drama that have captivated audiences. With their signature blend of humor, insider knowledge, and candid opinions, Teddi and Tamra provide listeners with a comprehensive recap of the season's most pivotal moments.

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Key Discussions

1. Jax Taylor’s Turbulent Divorce and Custody Battle

The season kicks off with the explosive news of Jax Taylor filing for divorce from Brittany, seeking full custody of their son, Cruz. Tamra expresses her surprise and frustration with Jax’s actions, highlighting the emotional and legal complexities at play.

• Custody Concerns: Jax’s decision to move forward with a treatment center while simultaneously filing for custody raises red flags. Tamra remarks, “[05:26] Jax committing to do anything for a month, gaslighting Brittany is a pretty big deal.”

• Allegations of Cheating: The hosts discuss the discovery of Brittany’s communication with Julian, including the sending of a sexy video from her iPad. Teddi comments, “[07:14] She was so checked out last year,” pointing to the potential infidelity that has fueled the divorce proceedings.

• Violent Outbursts: Jax’s aggressive behavior culminates in him flipping a coffee table in anger, leading to concerns about domestic violence. Tamra notes, “[12:18] Well, not only did he flip the table, he flipped the table and he hit her in the shins or something like that.”

2. Relationship Dynamics and Allegiances

The episode delves into the intricate web of relationships among the cast members, shedding light on alliances, betrayals, and personal growth.

• Michelle’s New Relationship: Michelle’s move out of the shared household with Jesse and her new relationship with Aaron sparks discussions about co-parenting challenges. Tamra muses, “[14:14] How about, I think the only way she could get out was by moving to a different place.”

• Kristen and Luke’s Engagement: Kristen and Luke’s relationship takes center stage as they get engaged, albeit with their unique quirks and moments of tension. Teddi humorously questions, “[30:15] Would you want to get engaged on a boat? No.”

• Janet and Brittany’s Strained Friendship: The tension between Janet and Brittany becomes evident as they attempt to reconcile, only to uncover deeper issues and mistrust. Tamra comments, “[26:52] Sometimes that gets on my nerves a little bit.”

3. Jax Taylor’s Reputation and Future on the Show

Jax Taylor emerges as a highly controversial figure within The Valley, garnering significant backlash from fans and fellow cast members alike.

• Public Backlash: Following his Us Weekly cover, Jax faces intense criticism, leading him to remove the photo from his Instagram due to “hellacious” comments. Tamra observes, “[05:52] Jax had to remove his cover from his Instagram because he was getting so much hate.”

• Behavioral Patterns: Despite his attempts at rehabilitation, Jax’s recurring aggressive behavior suggests a pattern that may jeopardize his standing on the show. Tamra predicts, “[17:36] He's not gonna grow up. This is who he is. A month of rehab or not, he's gonna come back and probably be quite similar.”

4. Upcoming Season Predictions and Storylines

Looking ahead, Teddi and Tamra speculate on the potential developments and drama that will unfold in the upcoming episodes of The Valley.

• Michelle and Aaron’s Relationship: The dynamics of Michelle’s new relationship with Aaron are anticipated to create additional tension, especially with Jesse’s involvement. Tamra foresees, “[25:21] I think they're gonna take you down. They're not gonna let this slip.”

• Custody Battles and Parental Struggles: The ongoing custody battle between Jax and Brittany is expected to escalate, impacting Cruz’s well-being and the overall narrative of the show. Tamra emphasizes, “[29:16] When Jack says that he hates walking past his son's room. How about you let your wife and your son live in the house and you get out?”

• Pregnancies and Family Expansions: With both Nia and Kristen expecting another child, the hosts predict that their growing families will add layers of complexity and joy to their storylines. Teddi congratulates, “[31:40] Yeah. Well, congratulations to them.”

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Notable Quotes

• Tamra Judge: “[05:26] Jax committing to do anything for a month, gaslighting Brittany is a pretty big deal.”

• Teddi Mellencamp: “[07:14] She was so checked out last year.”

• Tamra Judge: “[12:18] Well, not only did he flip the table, he flipped the table and he hit her in the shins or something like that.”

• Tamra Judge: “[26:52] Sometimes that gets on my nerves a little bit.”

• Teddi Mellencamp: “[05:52] Jax had to remove his cover from his Instagram because he was getting so much hate.”

• Tamra Judge: “[17:36] He's not gonna grow up. This is who he is. A month of rehab or not, he's gonna come back and probably be quite similar.”

• Tamra Judge: “[29:16] When Jack says that he hates walking past his son's room. How about you let your wife and your son live in the house and you get out?”

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Insights and Conclusions

Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge effectively navigate the maze of The Valley’s dramatic twists and turns, offering listeners both critical analysis and entertaining banter. They highlight the complexities of modern relationships, the challenges of co-parenting amid divorce, and the personal growth (or lack thereof) of individuals like Jax Taylor. Their candid discussions not only provide a recap of the season but also offer deeper insights into the human emotions and motivations driving the cast members’ actions.

As the season progresses, Teddi and Tamra express anticipation for the unfolding drama, particularly surrounding Jax’s volatile behavior and the evolving relationships among the housewives. Their engaging commentary ensures that both avid fans and newcomers to The Valley will find the episode both informative and entertaining.

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Tune in next week as Teddi and Tamra continue to dissect the latest episodes of The Valley, bringing their unique perspectives and unfiltered opinions to the forefront of reality TV commentary.

Transcript

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Unknown]

Hello. Hello.

[Tamara Judge]

Hello. My sister's in this room and she's trying to push me over the edge by having her light flash up when she gets a text message. You know people that do that?

[Unknown]

No, I don't know people that do that.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, every single time she gets a text, it's like fire. It flashes like 25 times.

[Unknown]

Why?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, why? You can speak. Because I don't like the noise.

[Unknown]

So it alerts me when I'm at work with the. Oh, okay. Well, I just vaguely remember, I don't know who it was. Maybe my daughter. We were looking at Instagram and you guys were going on a walk and she goes, whoa, is that Teddy's sister? I go, yeah. Why? She goes, because they look like twins. Oh, my God. And she goes, but she looks really young. I. And I go, I go, she's.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what? You can tell your daughter off, right? Your daughter.

[Unknown]

Yeah. So I said, she's got a 20 year old son. I go, I think when you posted your son's birthday, I'm like, no way. You have a 20 year old.

[Tamara Judge]

You don't even.

[Unknown]

You barely look 20 years old.

[Tamara Judge]

I know it's not right that she has to be so adorable, but I.

[Unknown]

Mean, well, you're both adorable.

[Tamara Judge]

I wouldn't put me in the adorable category of things we were going to pick. But here's the thing. If we're going to pick on her, you know, she's going to be on the pod so she can fend for herself. But she doesn't need to fend for herself right now. She's not athletic.

[Unknown]

Oh, not. You got all the athleticism. How do you say it?

[Tamara Judge]

Athleticism. Like yesterday Cruz beat her with his eyes closed. A game of horse, by the way.

[Unknown]

I don't Know if it was you or Edwin posted a picture of him and he's getting a little buff.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, one, he walks by the mirror and, like, looks at himself like, I got a hot bod. And two, like, every two weeks, he's like, hey, mom, do you have a sec? And then I would assume it's to ask me a question. He's like, can you shave my neck? And I'm like, hold on. But I'm like, I'm not sure I'm the one to be trusted to neck shave right now, but let's go for it, buddy. Good luck.

[Unknown]

Oh, he's so cute. He really is.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh. But he is.

[Unknown]

You see, like, you know, just being the fitness industry for so long, you look at these kids that are, like, in gymnastics or sports, and you see their little butt. The muscles develop.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, he works out too. He's a crazy. I know.

[Unknown]

I've seen. And it's like, I. If I had to do it all over again with kids, I would have pushed them to do gymnastics and all these sports. I was athletic. Their father was athletic. But my kids put them in sports. They were picking daisies on the field.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well, it's not that justice is. Isn't athletic, because when she. She was, but it's that she doesn't care. Like, she doesn't care if she wins or lose. Like, there's not that, like, meanness to her that I. That you have that everyone else in my family.

[Unknown]

Well, I don't have that when it comes that.

[Tamara Judge]

You are so full of shit. If we were to play a football game right now.

[Unknown]

No, you.

[Tamara Judge]

You think you'd be like, oh, in my younger.

[Unknown]

My younger days, I would. Now I'm like, can I just go sit down? I don't. I don't want to, like, break a hip right now.

[Tamara Judge]

That's how I feel.

[Unknown]

You are. You're competitive.

[Tamara Judge]

I think right now, you and I both went out there and we had a swim competition.

[Unknown]

You'd probably still win.

[Tamara Judge]

No, you'd. You.

[Unknown]

No. Swimming's my worst.

[Tamara Judge]

Swimming is my worst, too. But I couldn't think of another sporting event we do in my backyard right now. What could we do? I mean, we wouldn't do the monkey bars basketball. I mean, I guess we're short.

[Unknown]

We don't play basketball.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's true. I'm not good at basketball.

[Unknown]

I'm not good at basketball either.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, speaking of really up situations, we're gonna get right into the valley. Season 2, Episode 1 I will say I watched it Twice.

[Unknown]

I love that I printed mine, and it's, like, microscopic, and I already have bad eyes. Yours is nice and big and bold.

[Tamara Judge]

We have different producers.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Should have maybe rethought this.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, normally, Tam and I are not actually together. She's a big.

[Unknown]

But I do have yellow highlights.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, great. Now you can hold it up here like this. But I can effortlessly see it like this.

[Unknown]

It's the smallest font ever. Thank you, Kaden.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, you know what? Matt's the MVP of the font size.

[Unknown]

Fired.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you want a pair of readers? Hold on. We gotta get Tam her readers. But this is why Tam isn't competitive, because she can't see. We're gonna get through this. So it starts out where Brittany tells Jack she's filing for divorce, seeking custody of Cruz. Jack says he's going to a treatment center for a month. The season begins seven days before this. I've got to be honest about one thing.

[Unknown]

Yeah?

[Tamara Judge]

Jax committing to do anything for a month, gaslighting Brittany is a pretty big deal.

[Unknown]

Could Jax possibly be the most hated person on Bravo?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I'm not on Bravo, but Jax got so much heat for his Us Weekly cover that he had the. I mean, clearly they're very particular because they went from Jax to me for the COVID shoots.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But.

[Tamara Judge]

But Jax had to remove his cover from his Instagram because he was getting so much hate. I just looked at the comments, and then the comments were hellacious. So either way, Jax, normally, that's me, but.

[Unknown]

I know. Not this time. But then we go on to Michelle, who moved out of the house she shared with Jesse, which. I don't know what's going on here, but why are the women moving out of the houses when they get separated from their men?

[Tamara Judge]

My guess is that the men own the houses under their names and they're being douche lords.

[Unknown]

I mean.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, they separated, they're waiting for their divorce to be finalized, and Jesse says co parenting is not going well. They're arguing all the time.

[Unknown]

But I just feel like Michelle moving out was a very interesting choice because usually if you have children, the man might possibly move out. So they don't interrupt the child's, you know, normal life.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I. Either way, they're going to be interrupt. I think they have 50. 50 custody. So either way, they're interrupting the kid's life because they. The kid. I love that we're calling it the Kid. What is her name?

[Unknown]

The kid? Isabella.

[Tamara Judge]

Isabella would have to go to his house as well. But I think the reason that she moved out is because she's the one that moved on. I think he would have stayed married to her.

[Unknown]

Yes. Yes, he absolutely would stay married to her. And I think that you know her. Did she cheat?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, allegedly.

[Unknown]

Allegedly.

[Tamara Judge]

She had been with a person for a year, which we're going to find out right now. Is the guy that we're seeing in this episode or it was somebody else. My gut is telling me it's the guy we saw this episode.

[Unknown]

She was so checked out last year.

[Tamara Judge]

She was done. What I did realize is at the beginning of this episode, we see a lot of Jesse and he's not drinking. Then we see scenes for next like the upcoming episodes. We see Jesse drinking again and that's when he really starts throwing around some of the fighting.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Then we're at Kristen and Luke's house. Kristen says the last time she talked to Janet was when Janet called her crying, saying she wished they could all be friends again. Luke says he wants to do everything to increase their chances of. Of getting pregnant, exercising more and not drinking.

[Unknown]

What are your thoughts on this relationship?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't under. I've never seen that seem like a relationship.

[Unknown]

It's an interesting dynamic.

[Tamara Judge]

She seems tighter with the guy that has the interesting hair.

[Unknown]

Do you think it's a situation where she just wants a baby?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know because I think he really loves her.

[Unknown]

Well, we see him in previews for upcoming where he's running down the hall in his underwear because he's so mad. Because he's so mad. He's like, this is not. And I'm like, well, we have to.

[Tamara Judge]

Remember he's a normie.

[Unknown]

He is.

[Tamara Judge]

She is not a normie. She has been doing this for a very long.

[Unknown]

She was off TV for a while though, right?

[Tamara Judge]

But it doesn't matter. Like, once, like, she was on for so many years. I would say she probably between her and Stassi and, you know, like all of those Girls, originally from those. You know, those shows went through so much shit. I mean, Kristen was not only cheated on, she was a cheater. She had, like, domestic violence, allegedly.

[Unknown]

She went through the ring.

[Tamara Judge]

She's been through a lot of stuff.

[Unknown]

But Stassi, she just went on her merry way. Like, she's. But I did see. Is she on some vanderpump?

[Tamara Judge]

She took a little break, and then now she's gonna be on a show, and then I think she gets her own show. Oh, I think it's a stepping stone. I don't think we're probably gonna see a Kristen and Luke spinoff. No, I don't think so.

[Unknown]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

But Janet doing a classic LVP and trying to call Kristen off camera to set a narrative before they do a pickup. I was like, Jan.

[Unknown]

Frowned upon.

[Tamara Judge]

You know how I feel about Janet, though. But everybody I like likes Janet, which.

[Unknown]

Is confusing Janet at some event. I don't know. It was last year sometime. Very sweet. Very, very sweet.

[Tamara Judge]

But before or after she was on the show?

[Unknown]

After. After. Like, the. The show. The season had aired, and then we were in. I don't know, it was like some. Oh, Andy's event in la. And I can't remember what it was to. I don't know. I can't remember exactly.

[Tamara Judge]

But would you be friends with Janet? If you had to pick, would you rather be friends with Janet or Kristen?

[Unknown]

Oh, wow, that's tough. If you threw Michelle in there, then I would say definitely Janet.

[Tamara Judge]

Michelle, honestly, is very hard for me to watch.

[Unknown]

Michelle's very hard for me.

[Tamara Judge]

Mia is hard for me.

[Unknown]

No, she's so sweet and pretty, and.

[Tamara Judge]

I know that's what I watched with my sister yesterday. She'd never watch. And she's like, oh, my God, this girl is so pretty.

[Unknown]

I'm like, she just seems like the nicest person in the world.

[Tamara Judge]

Get ruined.

[Unknown]

Ruined.

[Tamara Judge]

I know it's about to get ruined.

[Unknown]

And bless her heart, three kids under three and she wants more.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, then we find out that Jax and Britney have been separated for nine months. Jax says he and Brittany were considering her moving back in, working on their marriage, but he discovered on her iPad that she was still talking to Julian and had sent him a sexy video. Brittany says Jax flipped the coffee table when he found out about the text. They had previously agreed they could see other people. Jax is upset. Britney hooked up with one of his former friends. Jax says he doesn't want Cruz to witness how he treated his mom. And Brittany says Jack's rage has gotten worse and she's worried about letting Cruz be around him.

[Unknown]

Well, I mean, not only did he flip the table, he flipped the table and he hit her in the shins or something like that.

[Tamara Judge]

I felt like I was missing something because, well, he flipped it. Say the shit.

[Unknown]

Yeah, it hit her in the legs or something like that, and she got hurt. I remember reading about this months ago. Something happened. Some kind of domestic violence or something.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. That's why I was a little bit confused.

[Unknown]

But I also, again, this is another situation where Britney moves out and Jack stays in the house. But also, what in the mal chauvinist pig is going on in the Valley?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know, but I. I've heard rumors that this is pretty common rumors. But I also don't say this is one of Jax's best friends. And then the only clip you have of him is 15 people back, like, at Disneyland. Like, I couldn't even see the guy's freaking face, right? He's like, hold on, I'm 15 people back.

[Unknown]

He's like, I've got my baby hello, my ringtone, and I'm gonna bone your girl. That's what I'm gonna do.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, I want kind of sexy videos she was sending. And who shares an iPad with sexy videos?

[Unknown]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it was her titties. Because those girls are. They're on display.

[Tamara Judge]

Sometimes I check the titties, and then I check my titties, and I'm like.

[Unknown]

I'm like, where are my titties?

[Tamara Judge]

I'm like, I. I even have fake titties, and I can't even see them.

[Unknown]

Oh, my God. But. But when he said I. We were even planning for her to move back into my house, I'm like, you just can't stop.

[Tamara Judge]

And I've been to that house multiple times. It's all set up for their kid. Like, her. Her son. Like, just. You cheated. Multiple times. Allegedly. She's now following the rules. Like, why are you so mad at her? Why do you have to be so such a.

[Unknown]

How far is the Valley from here?

[Tamara Judge]

It's five minutes.

[Unknown]

Oh, that's it?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Why. Why do I think it's, like, way out in the Valley?

[Tamara Judge]

Then? Jesse says he was a pretty big after separating from Michelle, but is now in a relationship with a woman who has a strong personality. He says Michelle enabled his behavior, whereas his new partner doesn't. Michelle's also in a new relationship with a guy named Aaron. You know what I do? Gotta give Jesse. He's honest. About who he is and allowing us to be the judge of the next steps. But what I told him, and I actually told him directly, I said, you did some problematic things for me. And he's like, what? And I said, anytime somebody speaks so greatly about a new partner, like, she's the most amazing woman I've ever met. She is so incredible. She puts me in my place. I said. All of a sudden, I thought, he's a liar. He's lying about this.

[Unknown]

Oh, you just, though, shall not protest too much or something like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Like. And I think. And she's really nice. Like, she's lovely, but, like.

[Unknown]

Okay, but why wasn't she there?

[Tamara Judge]

Because she's not gonna film.

[Unknown]

She won't film.

[Tamara Judge]

She will not film. I think she would probably film for the Real Housewives of Orange county, but I don't think she would film for the Valley.

[Unknown]

I mean, I know I. Obviously she wants to keep her name out of this, but I.

[Tamara Judge]

But you know who she.

[Unknown]

I follow her. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I met her. I don't.

[Unknown]

I don't know her. Where did you meet her?

[Tamara Judge]

Met her at the US Weekly party. And she's really nice and, like, sends me messages, like, praying for you, thinking about, like, very.

[Unknown]

So why do you think she won't film for the show?

[Tamara Judge]

I think because she probably wants to stay living in Orange County.

[Unknown]

Hmm. Okay. Well.

[Tamara Judge]

And maybe there you go.

[Unknown]

So we're not gonna see her at.

[Tamara Judge]

All with Jesse would mean the demise of their relationship.

[Unknown]

Are they still together?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Unknown]

What do you think about Michelle bringing Aaron to the party?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, if they've been together for a year and a half, why the f. C.K. not.

[Unknown]

Could you I.M. yeah, right. Exactly. But could you imagine having to film a show with somebody you just. Are they. I don't even know if they're divorced yet, but somebody you're divorcing and it's a bad situation. Like, I'd be like.

[Tamara Judge]

I actually wouldn't mind it, like, if Edwin and I had to film something together. Yeah.

[Unknown]

But you guys get along.

[Tamara Judge]

And every relationship that's no longer together, there's good days and there's bad days.

[Unknown]

Well, that's like that with even relationships that are together.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Let's be honest.

[Tamara Judge]

But then Janet and Brittany go to build terrariums.

[Unknown]

I don't ever want to build a terrarium.

[Tamara Judge]

I was going to say, don't ask me to build a.

[Unknown]

No, it's not happening. I'm like, oh. Oh, they're really doing this.

[Tamara Judge]

Also, what about when one of them goes, when was the last time you did this. But then during this, Jax calls Brittany twice, and she doesn't answer. So he texts, not going to pick up my calls. And then Britney says Jax is upset he wasn't invited to her white party, so he's planning a rival event. Well, this is never a good idea.

[Unknown]

This is it. But just Jax Taylor. I'm Jax Taylor. I can do what I want. That's what he says to Britney. I'm Jax Taylor. I can do what I want. This guy's 45 years old.

[Tamara Judge]

Everybody's older than me on this show.

[Unknown]

It's time to grow up.

[Tamara Judge]

He's not gonna grow up. This is who he is. A month of rehab or not, he's gonna come back and probably be quite similar.

[Unknown]

So he leaves the show.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, hold on. Let's. First we have to get to Nia. Zach and Kristen go to lunch. I could have done without this scene completely. Didn't care. Didn't need to know that you were gonna have a passion fruit margarita, hold the alcohol, because, of course, you're probably pregnant again.

[Unknown]

Nia.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Do you think she's pregnant again?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I. Well, now she is pregnant, so my guess is she.

[Unknown]

Oh, she is pregnant again.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Unknown]

They're gonna have four under. Oh, bless her heart. She seems very sweet. Very, very sweet.

[Tamara Judge]

But most sweet people have a really dark side.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

When I turn, most sweet people have a very dark side. Like, no. Who's that happy all the time?

[Unknown]

Well, that's why I'm a bitch all the time, because I have no dark side.

[Tamara Judge]

Hold on. But I've never seen the soft side.

[Unknown]

You never will.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Then Nia says she recently was at Brittany's house and it was scary. Nia asked if Janet has tried to talk to Zach and Kristen. Zach says Janet told Brittany not to hang out with him. Zach says he doesn't understand why Britney is so up. Janet's funani. This part I didn't really Get. Zach's kind of like a walking 90s catchphrase.

[Unknown]

He is. He is. But accusing someone of not wanting your pregnancy to go to full term is pretty messed up.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you. We. But didn't they both do that to each other? That's what. I got a little lost.

[Unknown]

I don't think Zach's pregnant.

[Tamara Judge]

Whatever. I bet he still says the word psych.

[Unknown]

He probably does. Psych, psych.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Jesse and Kristin have wine at his house. This I want to correct. Jesse, I did not see. Have a glass of wine. I only saw Kristen. He was still on his Pellegrino kick. He was, in my opinion. Then in confessional, Jesse says if Michelle's boyfriend Aaron was the reason their marriage ended, it won't go over well. Jesse apologizes to Kristin for projecting his anger onto her. And then Kristin says she's choosing Team Jesse and her separation.

[Unknown]

Well, I mean, there's nothing he can do about it now. The marriage is broken up. And even if she was with this guy, like, what are you going to do?

[Tamara Judge]

The marriage was going to be over regardless if she ended up with that guy or not.

[Unknown]

Right. So why are you going to be. There's going to be a real problem if this is the guy that broke up my marriage. Well, you walk into a party, you're like, hey, bud. Hi. How are you?

[Tamara Judge]

Jesse, I love you, but the real problem is your suits that you wore out first season. So do you remember the black and white suits?

[Unknown]

Remember the really long coats that go down to his knees?

[Tamara Judge]

No. We like you, Jesse.

[Unknown]

We do.

[Tamara Judge]

But this is a duo that I'm fine with. I want to know what continues on with them. I do think they're going to have a fight, though. I don't think they're going to be able. They're both loose cannons. But I do look forward to what chaos they can. They can put together between the two of them. Then at lunch, Nia says she wants another child, although she and Daniel have three under three. Daniel wants to move to Santa Clarita. Nia is not going to live anywhere where people do not know the freeway numbers.

[Unknown]

Well, is it that far? I mean, is it out? What is the freeway?

[Tamara Judge]

I need to know.

[Unknown]

I mean, isn't it off, like the.

[Tamara Judge]

I would think off the 210.

[Unknown]

210. Something like that. I remember stopping in Santa Clarita to. To go to the grocery store.

[Tamara Judge]

You want to know where Santa Clarita is? Where?

[Unknown]

It's where they were that they eat raw. They eat dead people.

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Unknown]

Yeah. There's a show about Santa Clarita. It's like, is it Drew Barrymore? That's in the show. And she eats people. She's a zombie. That's the only thing I know about Santa Cruz.

[Tamara Judge]

I never heard about such a thing. It's a scripted show. This isn't reality.

[Unknown]

That's the only thing that I'm so confus.

[Tamara Judge]

And then I'm like, oh, my God. She's talking about the scripted show.

[Unknown]

That's the only thing I know about Santa Clarita.

[Tamara Judge]

Know what I know about Santa Clarita? There's very competitive cheerleaders. Like, a very.

[Unknown]

I feel like they're everywhere.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. So then Nia goes on and on about the freeway numbers, all the things. He gets upset because she has some of his sauce. Ew.

[Unknown]

I don't want to hear about his sauce.

[Tamara Judge]

No, he dipped. But I feel like this couple's about to take a real dip.

[Unknown]

Do you? No.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I do.

[Unknown]

Oh, you're usually right about this stuff.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Unknown]

She's so beautiful. She reminds me of, like. Was she, like, Miss America or something?

[Tamara Judge]

She was.

[Unknown]

Oh, of course she was. She looks like she'd be Miss America.

[Tamara Judge]

She was some sort of pageant queen. I don't know which one.

[Unknown]

So pretty.

[Tamara Judge]

And she's also lovely and really nice, and so whenever.

[Unknown]

In real person. In real person, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

She goes to.

[Unknown]

Have you met her in real life?

[Tamara Judge]

She goes to Edwin's church, so I've met both of them multiple times.

[Unknown]

She does.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Not a shocker.

[Unknown]

Of course.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So she goes to Edwin's church. She's really nice, but I. I kind of worry about the demise of the relationship this year.

[Unknown]

I hope not.

[Tamara Judge]

And I have not heard one thing about it. But the way he's talking and the way that she wants to avoid the drama, I'm like, you're on season two of a show now, and they're gonna take you down. They're not gonna let this slip.

[Unknown]

I hope not. I hope not. What did you think about Michelle saying that Jesse gives her the ick? That's the father of your daughter. Like, is that really something you necessarily have to say every time Michelle opens her mouth, I'm like, no. Nope. Not having it.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't really even, like, track that when she said it. I was like, but it kind of makes sense. It looks like she gives him the ick. I mean, he gives her the ick. Like, I think he's still in love with her probably.

[Unknown]

But either way, we're pre white party together.

[Tamara Judge]

We see Jason, which, who I forgot was on the show. He says he understands why Jax was upset about Julian, but he doesn't condone Jax being aggressive towards Britney. Jax is bummed about not being invited to the white party. And then Janet says she wants to get along with Kristen again.

[Unknown]

Is this where Schwartz was?

[Tamara Judge]

No, he was at the.

[Unknown]

Oh, he was at the other part. Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Which, by the way, golf clubs for Schwartz, it's the best and months.

[Unknown]

He looks so good.

[Tamara Judge]

He looked hot.

[Unknown]

Does he have a girlfriend?

[Tamara Judge]

Remember, he had that, like, pre teen girlfriend?

[Unknown]

So how many people from Vanderpump Rules is now on the Valley?

[Tamara Judge]

So just by looking for the clips, we've got Schwartz, we've got Lala, and we've got Sheena, which probably means Sheena's husband.

[Unknown]

Oh, Sheena's on it as well.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we saw Sheena at the same party. Then we get to the white party, and then in confessional, that's when Michelle says she tries to avoid Jesse at all costs. Jesse interacts with Michelle and her new boyfriend. That really, I may pick Jesse over the new boyfriend.

[Unknown]

I'm gonna agree with that. And then the whole conversation about Michelle and Jesse should be like, jesse should move to Orange county to be in Newport, you know, with this new girl. And she's like, shane having it. No, my daughter's not going to school there. And then the poor boyfriend, Aaron, like, he's sitting here witnessing them going back and forth. He's like, what am I doing here?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, he's probably thinking, I've already been dealing with this for the year during our affair, and now I have to sit through this again at the white party.

[Unknown]

Yeah. No, no. He just. Finally, he just walks away.

[Tamara Judge]

He's like, I've also decided if Aaron were to wear a hat, he'd be hot, so maybe he should wear hats the rest of the season. You know what? This is coming from someone with 11 strands of hair.

[Unknown]

I was not gonna say anything. Was not gonna bring that up. But I'm like, sure. Should you be saying this right now?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, now I can be saying it more than ever.

[Unknown]

Well, you look great.

[Tamara Judge]

No, bald. I do. Well, except for this side. Now has to get sprayed because there's not even anything to stick to it.

[Unknown]

Well.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, whatever.

[Unknown]

It's going to grow back.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Janet pulls. Yeah. Oh, it'll grow back. How many years do we think we're going to deal with this? Then Janet pulls Kristen to talk. Kristen says last summer was hard and she wants to get back to their good times. And Then Janet calls out Kristen for saying she didn't want Janet's baby to go to full term. Janet says Zach said he didn't care if she miscarried, but Zach said that, not Kristen.

[Unknown]

Okay, sometimes that gets on my nerves a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

Sometimes I wonder why Zach and the other girl are on the show. I only remember Zach's name because you said it like, I don't know, 15 minutes ago.

[Unknown]

Yeah. The other girl. Remind me her name.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. We met her girlfriend this year, Jasmine.

[Unknown]

So she hasn't had, like. Is she like a friend of. Like, do they have. It's like a housewife show. They have friends of. And main cast members.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I. Jasmine and Zach. Zach seem to me like friend of.

[Unknown]

Yeah, well, I need Sheena to come in. I need some more.

[Tamara Judge]

I need some more action.

[Unknown]

I need more action because this doesn't.

[Tamara Judge]

Go anywhere, this Janet and Kristin trying to talk. Then Kristen says she doesn't feel Janet's apology was genuine. But then in the confessional, Kristen says she. She doesn't see a future where she trusts Janet again. No.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

At Jax's rival party with Tom Schwartz, Tom says Britney told him she doesn't feel safe being in the same room as him. And then Jax claims he and Britney almost hooked up the other night. Tom says Jax needs counseling and. Or therapy. Jax says he's going off the rails and doesn't know what to do. I'm not sure I call this a party.

[Unknown]

No, it was more like a therapy session. Do you think that it was more.

[Tamara Judge]

Like that party that nobody came to that. Then you start panicking, so you go to your friend's party. Yeah.

[Unknown]

It's like, oh, this party's a bust. Yeah, let's go to somebody else's party. I do think that Schwartz gave him some good advice. I think he's like, listen, dude, you can't be doing that. I don't care what the situation is. It's the way you reacted.

[Tamara Judge]

Kristen said to him, if you can't see your son because of the things that you're doing, don't do him.

[Unknown]

Yeah, stop. Stop. I do not remember them in the top of the show saying that he was going to rehab. I thought this was all setting him up to go to rehab.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think we've 100% gotten to the going to the rehab, but we have gotten to her saying she's going to take full custody, she's going to do a restraining order. And I think it's tough Because I think people will say that, and then they go have sex with that person.

[Unknown]

Do you think she really was gonna have sex with him?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Unknown]

You do?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. I think she's very much in love with him. And I think this is the chain of abuse.

[Unknown]

When Jack says that he hates walking past his son's room. How about you let your wife and your son live in the house and you get out?

[Tamara Judge]

How about. I think the only way she could get out was by moving to a different place.

[Unknown]

Because he would move.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think he would move. And I think he. He. Even though he has not treated them properly, I don't think he wants it to be over with them, because then it's considered a failure.

[Unknown]

Oh, it's over. It's done. She would be a fool to go back to him.

[Tamara Judge]

Unfortunately, my gut tells me they'll be back together.

[Unknown]

Okay, let's take this to Vegas and bet on it.

[Tamara Judge]

Season preview. Michelle is crying about her divorce.

[Unknown]

Yep.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Danielle tells Nia her friends are talking behind her back. And then Brittany tells Jax he is dangerous and needs help. And then Kristen and Luke get engaged. Would you want to get engaged on a boat?

[Unknown]

No. And then he had, like, some cheesy lying, too. It was like, you're the catch of the day as he's fishing over her shoulder. Shoulder. I really reeled you in.

[Tamara Judge]

Hold on. But so do we think she got.

[Unknown]

And her rings a fish hook?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. No, he definitely did some sort of fish catchphrase.

[Unknown]

Catch of the day.

[Tamara Judge]

Something like that.

[Unknown]

I can't remember.

[Tamara Judge]

You want to be the catch of my life?

[Unknown]

Catch of my life. I don't know. Same, different show.

[Tamara Judge]

She seemed shocked.

[Unknown]

She did seem shocked. And I keep watching, like, I keep seeing her order drinks. I'm like, no, you're pregnant.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, let's do the timing because there's multi. Her and Nia are both pregnant. They're both, I think, the same.

[Unknown]

That's so funny you say that, because I saw, like, they had a big party, like, a launch party, and I'm like, who's the other pregnant? She's really pregnant.

[Tamara Judge]

Kristen finds out she's pregnant in November of 2020.

[Unknown]

Okay, so I need to know when Nia found out she was pregnant.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, me too.

[Unknown]

December of 2024.

[Tamara Judge]

So they both knew the whole time. And when were they filming this season? They were filming it last summer, so they probably announced when they were, like, five months pregnant, which makes sense.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Well, congratulations to them.

[Tamara Judge]

Congratulations. I'm sure it will be a blast on.

[Unknown]

It's so fun to be pregnant on camera, right? And it's so fun to be having little babies on camera, especially when your.

[Tamara Judge]

Significant others are stepping out. It's amazing. Enjoy it, guys, giving you all the love and support you may need. If you need a babysitter, don't ask us.

[Unknown]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Do not like children.

[Unknown]

We only like our own children and family children. That's it. Other than that, no.

[Tamara Judge]

No. But we'll keep tuning in and watching the Valley. I hope they let us bring somebody on because Jesse is my. Like, I. I'm gonna.

[Unknown]

Well, thank you.

[Tamara Judge]

I know how you guys always say that I'm biased, but, like, I feel like I'm gonna be biased with Jesse this season, so I'm just letting everybody know.

[Unknown]

You're gonna be dating him.

[Tamara Judge]

No, he's got a girlfriend.

[Unknown]

Well, now he does. Like.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you thought I was gonna be dating him beforehand?

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

That's quite a long time ago.

[Unknown]

Eight months ago or something, I feel like.

[Tamara Judge]

But that's when he was with Michelle.

[Unknown]

I saw your interview with them. Just.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you felt tension.

[Unknown]

I felt tension, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, don't be jealous that you haven't felt tension with any interviewees.

[Unknown]

I gotta work harder.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm sorry. Get your tits out and focus.

[Unknown]

I don't have any. I need to buy some first.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh. All right. Thanks, guys, for tuning in for another episode of the Twats. We'll be back soon. We appreciate you, and we'll see you next week.