Divorce Szn (RHOBH Recap)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Divorce Szn (RHOBH Recap)
Date: December 5, 2025
Podcast by: iHeartPodcasts

Overview

In this lively episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge reunite to deliver an in-depth and candid recap of "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" (RHOBH) Season 15’s premiere, encapsulating the show's current turbulent era—aptly titled “Divorce Szn”—where not a single cast member is married. The duo dissects cast dynamics, ongoing divorces, custody battles, changing friendships, and the personal struggles behind the glam, all laced with their signature humor and irreverent honesty.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Health, Bravocon, and Catching Up

• BravoCon Recap and Wellness (03:34)
  • Teddi mentions she luckily didn’t get sick post-BravoCon, unlike many others.
  • She humorously realizes her medication is making her feel off, noting she felt good the one day she accidentally skipped it.
  • “I forgot to take my medication in the morning…now I pretty much know that it’s the medication you’re on that’s making you feel crappy.” – Teddi (04:10)

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2. RHOBH Season 15 Premiere Breakdown

a. Opening Impressions & Fashion (04:51)

• Both hosts love the dramatic “beauty shots” of the cast.
• Teddi teases Erika Jayne’s “sneakers with heels and short shorts” scene (05:10) as a “Stacy’s mom” or Paris Hilton Carls Jr. ad homage.

b. Dorit & PK’s Divorce Drama (05:38)

• Dorit reveals PK requested joint custody, but she doubts he can parent half-time due to travel.
• Tamra observes, “She also can’t miss the chance to throw him under the bus on camera.” (05:55)
• There's talk about strategic alliances as Dorit gifts a $2,000 blanket to an ally.

c. Kyle & Dorit: Friendship Strain (06:33)

• Dorit is upset Kyle only checked on her four days after her divorce filing.
• Both hosts dismiss this as drama for the cameras:

  “At least she checked in on her.” – Teddi (06:41)

d. Bose (Bozoma Saint John) & Friend Dynamics (07:06)

• Tamra and Teddi discuss the “confusing” dynamic between Bose and Dorit vs. Kyle.
• Tamra mentions Bose’s “big personality and presence” (08:05), sharing BravoCon impressions.

e. Mauricio, Kyle, & the Kids (08:11)

• The hosts laugh about Mauricio’s “hoe phase” after splitting from Kyle, referencing paparazzi photos with girlfriends.
• Quote:

  “Having a dry hump at baggage claim does feel a bit much, no matter what.” – Teddi (09:43)

• The girls poke fun at the absurdity and rumor mill:
  • “Unless he’s in your bedroom…You know, we don’t start that rumor.” – Tamra (10:36)

f. Still Separated, Not Divorced (16:00)

• No divorce papers between Kyle & Mauricio.
• “The non-urgency to get anything in writing…shows what a good relationship they still have.” – Teddi (16:18)
• Both speculate neither is pushing for finalization unless a new marriage is imminent.

g. Rachel Zoe’s Return (17:04)

• Hosts are excited to see Rachel Zoe back on Bravo.
• Discuss year-long relationship and subtle implications about her ex’s possible quick rebound.
• “Do the math,” recalls Rachel’s line about her ex's new relationship (18:49).
• Tamra brings personal experience:

  “I dated one person after my ex…and we’re married. We’ve been together 16 years.” (23:44)

h. Friendship Falls & Housewives Marital Status (19:38)

• Sutton and Garcelle’s friendship breakup is dissected.
• “Do you realize not one housewife on the show is currently married? That’s bananas.” – Tamra (19:45)
• “The Unhousewives of Beverly Hills.” – Teddi (19:54)

i. Family, Co-Parenting, and Blended Holidays (24:28)

• Teddi shares her own divorce is “on hold,” discussing holidays and the awkwardness of blending families too fast.

  “So it’s like this Christmas — me and Edwin and the kids and his girlfriend and her daughter.”
  “Stop it. There’s no need to merge the families together so soon.” – Tamra (25:16)

j. Working with Exes (26:07)

• The hosts touch on Rachel Zoe's regret in working with her ex, with flashbacks of on-screen fights.

k. Erica Jayne’s Dating Era (26:35)

• Erica discusses the difficulty of hearing her ex Tom was sentenced just prior to performing in London.

• Erica is supportive of Erica’s journey to date again:

  “I want to see Erica dating. That’s something we’ve never seen.” – Tamra (27:52)

l. New Faces, Floral Parties, and “Boxes” (28:09)

• Discussion about the confusion over new cast members at events.
• Erica describes Sutton as a “box”—echoing old “fatty photo” drama (30:24).

  “Slim Sutton… She’s a box.” – Erica (30:41, recapped by Tamra & Teddi)

m. Divorce Conversations with Kids (32:30)

• Dives into when/how to tell kids about divorce (Dorit and her kids).
• Emotional personal experiences:

  “Do you think you and dad will get back together?...He’s like, sometimes.” – Teddi (33:32) “It’s hard...I almost threw up, you know?” – Tamra (34:07)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mauricio’s “Hoe Phase”:

  “Mow the ho!” – Teddi (09:51)
  “Do you think…[he] never had that hoe experience, and now in his 50s, he’s hoeing it up?” – Tamra (09:54)

• On all Housewives being single:

  “Do you realize not one housewife on the show is currently married? That’s bananas.” – Tamra (19:45)

• On rating themselves:

  “How do I rate myself on looks? Give myself a 5.” – Tamra (43:19)

• On hot girl summer:

  “Rachel Zoe was hoping for a hot girl summer…this is not a hot girl summer.” – Tamra (45:27)
  “I guess it wasn’t really a hot girl summer for most.” – Teddi (46:01)

• On Sutton’s break-ins:

  “What is with all these break-ins in the valley and Beverly Hills? What is going on?” – Tamra (48:28)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------|--------------| | RHOBH Recap Begins | 04:39 | | Dorit & PK Divorce/Custody | 05:38 | | Kyle Checking on Dorit | 06:33 | | Mauricio/Kyle Split & Paparazzi | 08:11 | | Divorce Paper Discussion | 16:00 | | Rachel Zoe Relationship Talk | 17:04 | | Sutton & Garcelle Friendship Breakup | 19:38 | | All Housewives Single | 19:45 | | Teddi’s Divorce/Blended Family | 24:28 | | Rachel Zoe’s Ex, Dating After Divorce | 23:44, 18:49 | | Erica Jayne & Tom’s Sentencing | 26:35 | | Erica Jayne Dating, New Relationships | 27:52 | | Erica’s “Box” Comment on Sutton | 30:24 | | Divorce Conversations with Kids | 32:30 | | Sutton’s House Break-In | 47:34 | | Housewives Self-Rating | 43:02 | | “Hot Girl Summer” Segment | 45:24 | | Season Preview/Next Week Tease | 46:06 |

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Housewife Humor & Inside Jokes

• Recapping each other’s Zoom filter woes, “I get mad that your screen always looks slightly blurred and mine looks like you can see my red face pulsating…” – Teddi (44:38)
• Running commentary on the franchise’s drama, e.g., “The Unhousewives of Beverly Hills,” and joking about putting everyone on dating shows.
• Relatable divorced-mom tales and playful ribbing about co-parenting, blended families, and holiday logistics.

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Looking Ahead

• Teases next week’s RHOBH episode, especially Kathy Hilton’s dramatic lines:

  “Did you see in the scenes for next week where Kathy looks over at what I’m assuming is Amanda and goes, ‘Know your place and sit down’?” – Teddi (46:13)

• Both are excited about the new energy and “breath of fresh air” compared to previous seasons.

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Tone & Language

True to their brand, Teddi and Tamra keep the conversation conversational, cheeky, occasionally self-deprecating, and pepper it with pop culture references and laughs, making even heavy personal topics engaging and accessible.

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Summary

This episode is a must-listen for RHOBH fans craving both comedic and empathetic takes on reality TV’s most talked-about divorces, friendships, and scandals. Teddi and Tamra manage to balance snark, genuine insight, and vulnerability, while delivering exclusive Housewives insider perspective that only “Two Ts In A Pod” can.

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[A]

Foreign. Welcome to another episode of two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[B]

Hi, Teddy.

[A]

Hi, babe.

[B]

How are you?

[A]

I'm good.

[B]

I saw you out and about, all dressed up, looking fancy at a birthday party.

[A]

I mean, I wasn't all dressed up, but I did have on a long coat. A piece. No, there was, like, everything.

[B]

There was two pictures. There was.

[A]

Oh, the other one is a past photo from her son's bar mitzvah.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That makes so. I'm like, wow.

[A]

Yeah. You were like, who's this girl?

[B]

How are you feeling?

[A]

I'm feeling pretty Good.

[B]

Recovered from BravoCon.

[A]

I'm recovered from bravocon. No, I feel pretty good.

[B]

I'm glad you never got sick because so many of us got sick. Eddie's still fighting it.

[A]

The weird thing is that yesterday I was like, gosh, I feel so good. Yesterday I was like, damn, I feel good. And then I realized at the end of the day, I forgot to take my medication in the morning.

[B]

Oh, so now you pretty much know that it's the medication you're on that's making you feel crappy.

[A]

Yes, which is really annoying because I have to be on some of it.

[B]

You have to for another 12 months or 10 months or 11 months or how many?

[A]

Yeah, pretty much. But I was like, oh, it's the first time I've ever forgotten it. Okay, so let's recap. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15.

[B]

I am so excited Beverly Hills is back.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

So happy. And it was such a good episode. How did you, like, like their beauty shots? Like, the first minute of them is just like, Dorit walking out with her Hermes. Yes. And then, I mean, I gotta bust Erica's balls on this one.

[A]

Man on the sneakers with heels.

[B]

Sneakers with heels and short shorts. Washing her car in slow motion. Wasn't there like a ad or something Paris Hilton did one time?

[A]

Yes, with. For Carl's junior junior but it also remind me of. Do you remember that song Stacy's mom has got it going on?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like.

[B]

All of it was really. I love that. I love this, like, the.

[A]

No, it was really good. But it starts off, where dorit goes to Beau's house. Dorit says she wasn't surprised that PK asked for joint custody, but says he doesn't have a lifestyle that is able to support the kids half the time.

[B]

He travels all the time. So he can't be with the kids all the time. Is that what she's saying?

[A]

I think that's what she's saying. But she also can't miss the chance to throw him under the bus on camera.

[B]

I know that's not going to pan out well.

[A]

Well. And he posted a picture with the kids yesterday.

[B]

Oh, it's.

[A]

It's getting to that point.

[B]

I mean, how about Tariq gifting buzz a $2,000 blanket?

[A]

And is that how much that blanket cost?

[B]

Yes, to keep her on her side, to keep her as an ally. She's very smart. She's starting up the season. Right. That's for sure. And what were your thoughts about Dorit being hurt because Kyle checked in, checked in on her four days after she filed for divorce?

[A]

Well, I think.

[B]

I don't see the big deal.

[A]

I don't see the big deal. Also, was it four days and when did it drop? What? You know, who knows? At least she checked in on her.

[B]

Yeah, she checked in on her. And maybe Kyle was busy. Maybe she was filming something.

[A]

Maybe she wanted to wait to make sure. It seemed like it was actually true. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I don't know. I haven't talked to Kyle at all about it, but what do you think about. Just because. Remember last season for Beverly Hills? I didn't recap the end because I was in the hospital.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So some of this I'm, like, new to seeing. What do you think about Bose and Dorit's friendship?

[B]

It's confusing to me a little bit. I need to see more. I was very confused to why Bose didn't like Kyle last season. I mean, Kyle had a shit season last year. I felt bad for her. I hope this season is better for her.

[A]

But.

[B]

Yeah, I don't understand it completely because really, they're all just new friends. I think that Buzz is just trying to figure out who's her friend at this point. But she's really leaning towards Dorit.

[A]

Yeah, but I mean, and Bose has a big personality. I didn't realize because I'd never met her until Bravo con. Like she says, Kyle wasn't warm and fuzzy to her, but, like, she is a big energy when she. I mean, not only is she super tall, she's always done to the nines.

[B]

Yeah. Like, she's on a Panel with her. You were? Yeah, I was on a panel. She was very sweet.

[A]

Yeah, but very sweet.

[B]

She has. There's a presence. There's a presence.

[A]

That's the word I was looking for. I'm like, what is the word?

[B]

It's the present. She's got a presence. I'm like, I'm scared. Am I scared? No, I'm not scared. Yeah, no, she's nice, but I'm scared. Yeah, but it was crazy. And then we get to Kyle's daughters talking about the paparazzi photos. Now, the girls were all at Kyle's house having breakfast, and Kyle seems like she's more relaxed about this now. It's not affecting her as much. It's been a couple years, right?

[A]

I mean, it's been like. What has it been? Almost three years, right?

[B]

Almost three years. Yeah. And they're arguing about not arguing, but they're talking about, you can't bring a date, dad can't bring a date.

[A]

I think that makes sense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Unless one of them was in, like, a really serious relationship. Like, I don't think Mo's in a serious relationship with the girl that's doing the tippy toes at, like, Turks and Caicos Airport.

[B]

I just think those pictures were set up. I'm sorry. They were. And then how about. What was it Mauricio told his daughter, told the family? Like, well, I didn't. You know, I didn't know there was paparazzi out there. You're in the valet, you are straddling each other. You're in la. What do you think is going to happen?

[A]

Who jumps on people? Their legs around other people also? That's what I want to know. Out of LA anywhere. Do you do that? When was the last time you jumped on Eddie and put your leg.

[B]

I would throw my back out. Let's be honest. Or something. But Kyle's daughters are, you know, they're. They're giving it to him a little bit, telling us, saying that their dad's a hoe going through his hoe phase.

[A]

Well, I mean, having a dry hump at baggage claim does feel a bit much, no matter what.

[B]

A little hoish. Moish. Mow the hoe.

[A]

Mow the ho.

[B]

The hoe.

[A]

Between that and the belly button picks.

[B]

Well, do you think. Oh, my. I don't get me started on those pics. Don't get me started. I don't want to see any man's belly button. But do you think because Mauricio and Kyle started dating in their early 20s that he never had that hoe experience and now in his 50s, he's hoeing it up.

[A]

Well, I don't know. I haven't ever seen him other than in the world wide web. I've never seen him with another woman.

[B]

So it's only pictures on the ski slopes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And pouring champagne. You know, it's always social media posts. It's always over the top barazi.

[A]

Yeah, but it's not like I've bumped into him and there's he is somebody that I could potentially bump into. Like I don't.

[B]

Well, you've been a little busy the past year. Unless he's in your bedroom. You know we don't start that rumor.

[A]

Great. This is how rumors are started.

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[A]

But they both, you know, they're all kind of talking about it. Kyle understands that she will, he will see other people, but wishes he would be a little bit more discreet. I think that makes sense. Yeah.

[B]

And as of now, there's no divorce papers drawn up, there's no legal separation, nothing like that?

[A]

I don't think so. I think they're just separated.

[B]

Just separated. Why do you think that there's no urge to file for divorce. Do you think there's a potential that they will get back together?

[A]

I don't know. I, I, I never say never but I think the non urgency to get anything in writing or anything like that shows what a good relationship they still have.

[B]

I also, I think it's, they were together for so long and they do have a lot of respect for each other that unless there's a reason to file for divorce, like somebody else wants to get married or they're in a committed relationship, there's no real reason for it yet.

[A]

Yeah. And plus you have to separate so many different things.

[B]

Yeah. Oh yeah. Financially, that's like.

[A]

So if you're just happy as is, why, why mess it up? It's like when I forget who it was. Was it Goldie Han who was in the same relationship with. Yeah. Forever.

[B]

But they never, I don't think they ever got married. Her and Kirk. Kirk Russell says Kirk Russell. I was right. Right. Kurt Russell. Sorry, sorry. It was nice to see Rachel Zoe back on our TV screen. It's been since 2013 since she's had her own show.

[A]

I'm curious, God, what she used to be like with Roger until they gave the flashbacks. I forgot they were fighting all the time.

[B]

Shocked that they were together like over 30 years.

[A]

Yeah, that's a long time. What I did. So Rachel was married to her ex Roger for 26 years but she thinks her relationship changed after they had kids. She's speaking with Kathy and Chess. She's trying to think of him in a friendly way but it has been difficult.

[B]

Well, okay, so here we know, we see later on we see her son who is absolutely adorable. He obviously signed off for the kids to film my.

[A]

Do you think we're going to see him?

[B]

I don't know. But my concern would be once you start talking badly about your ex, they are not going to sign off on the kids to film.

[A]

But I don't think she necessarily spoke badly of him. She just spoke badly of their relationship towards the end. Right.

[B]

Well, she's talking with her son and then she says in her confessionals, like, you know, the kids, you know, they like their dad, but they question, you know, why he puts his girlfriend first or something like that. I'm just paraphrasing. But his choices. And he has had a girlfriend. There's no. She said, do the math.

[A]

But she said they've been together a year, and the kids met them after 10 months. And I was like, okay, so to.

[B]

Me, she's insinuating that he. He had an affair.

[A]

No, because she's saying they've been together a year, and the kids met her at 10 months. So 10 months is less than a year.

[B]

But they've only been. Okay, they've been. So maybe they were. I don't know.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I. I didn't know how to take that. When she. When you go do the math. I just think, yeah, he was obviously in a relationship before he got out of there. I mean, if anything, he got into a relationship very, very quickly. And, you know, 33 years, I think it was. That's a long time to be with somebody. They had to been like.

[A]

And they worked together. They did. They were toddlers.

[B]

Started dating.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like we should have watched the Rachel Zoe Project to kind of give us Cliff Notes.

[B]

I remember it. I remember meeting her way back then. Do you realize not one housewife on the show is currently married?

[A]

That's bananas. Well, Bose will be.

[B]

She isn't yet. But as of right now, not one housewife is married.

[A]

The Unhousewives of Beverly Hills, right? Yeah, not one.

[B]

They're looking for a husband.

[A]

Next season on Love Hotel is the cast of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

[B]

You think Kyle would ever do Love Hotel? No, I don't see that either.

[A]

I just don't see.

[B]

I'd like to see Sutton on Love Hotel.

[A]

Sutton would be great. Sutton and Heather. Gay is something I'm. I'm down to watch.

[B]

Yeah, that would be good tv.

[A]

Then we get to Kyle and Erica, go over to Sutton's house to have lunch with her mom and re. Her mom? Reba.

[B]

Reba was very sweet this time. I mean, she did take a little dig at pk. I couldn't kiss that guy. I find him extremely unattractive.

[A]

I think.

[B]

No, Riva, tell us how you really feel.

[A]

Hold on. Do you think he's hot?

[B]

Do you think he's hot? He. She reminds me of my mom. Like, she just says it like it is. Doesn't hold back. No sugar coating the. Yeah, but now the fact happened with Avi. I Think there was probably some disagreement. They got into a fight.

[A]

That is a lot of loss for Sutton in one year. Like, because I forgot that her and Garcel were like actually best friends.

[B]

Who do you think is default in the Sutton Garcelle friendship breakup?

[A]

Garcel.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, Sutton.

[A]

Garcelle just stopped talking to her.

[B]

Well, Sutton, you know, was teary eyed and she said like, I don't know what happened. You know, last thing she thought is they were going to supper. And she never.

[A]

After.

[B]

Right after the reunion. Reunion. Supper. And it not. She never heard from her again. She said she did reach out. She didn't even know she unfollowed her. I mean, either Garcelle's upset about something really big, or they were just.

[A]

I mean, clearly Garcelle. Clearly Garcel was going to leave no matter what. But what does that have to do with Sutton? Why does she have to take Sutton out of it? It's not like Sutton wasn't in that reunion. Sutton wasn't doing much. So I don't know. I mean, she's mad at her for not sticking up for her, but like.

[B]

Well, do you want to hear something shady?

[A]

What?

[B]

Avi was recently with Garcelle at Garcelle's movie premiere.

[A]

No. How'd you find that out?

[B]

Well, I have my ways. There was a picture taken.

[A]

Well, I have my ways.

[B]

What do you think about Kyle defending PK on him, not knowing that the photo was being taken. Would you have kept that little nugget to yourself?

[A]

I maybe would have kept that nugget to myself.

[B]

I like when Kyle Housewives.

[A]

Yeah. I was like.

[B]

But that was this work sedan was talking about how Christian or ex husband they got an annulment. I didn't know. I always thought to get an annulment.

[A]

You.

[B]

It was like your marriage had to be like under six months or something like that.

[A]

I think. Unless it's from the church. Yeah.

[B]

I didn't. I never knew that. I didn't even know that was a possibility. Possibility. But then he sent her a letter about the annulment and had her maiden name on it. That was a big. Even her mom said, well, that's his way of telling you you don't matter.

[A]

What is her maiden name?

[B]

I can't remember.

[A]

Brown.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

What was it? Brown.

[B]

Sutton Brown. Oh, it was Brown. Oh, I was just.

[A]

You were guessing it was a B. That's pretty impressive. Rachel then talks about her biggest regret was working with her ex. She says he is now unrecognizable and not the right person to be around her. He started dating his current girlfriend right after the divorce. How long should you wait after a divorce to date? I mean. Well, I separated. Yeah, do it. You know, whatever.

[B]

I'm guilty of that. But, yeah. I dated one person after my ex. And we're married. We've been together 16 years longer than me and my ex were together. So, I mean, if, you know, you.

[A]

Did, you wait till you were divorced or you were just separated, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think you have to wait till, like, moved out of the house.

[B]

And all that stuff. No, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what the right thing to do. Maybe the right thing to do would be, you know, wait until your divorce to date. But in God's eyes, I think that you should do that. But the heart knows what the heart wants.

[A]

Did you just say in God's eyes?

[B]

Yeah. And in God's eyes, you are supposed to wait until you get divorced, I believe, before you move forward. Okay.

[A]

Well, what am I in God's eyes?

[B]

What is going on with your divorce?

[A]

Nothing. It's on hold.

[B]

It's just on hold?

[A]

It's on hold. You, like. But we do it on hold through the court because.

[B]

How long can you do that? Do you have to keep. You extending that whole period?

[A]

Keep extending it. Like, six months. By six months. By six months. I mean, the next thing I need to figure out is Christmas. I mean, we did Thanksgiving with my dad.

[B]

Well, I remember last year. Last Christmas, you were very, very sad.

[A]

Yeah, well, last Christmas I was by myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I don't know if, like, this Christmas, it'll be. Because I'm not gonna go back to my dad's again for Christmas. So it's like this Christmas, me and Edwin and the kids and his girlfriend and her daughter.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

Is that what that. I mean, what else is it gonna.

[B]

No, there's no need to merge the families together so soon.

[A]

No, he's gonna merge.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

I'm telling you, he's gonna merge.

[B]

Now that's a show I'll watch. Can you put cameras up all over inside your house? That's just weird. I'm sorry. It's weird. It's too soon. It's way too soon.

[A]

Well, it's. It's nice that I have such cute hair to show up with it.

[B]

It's getting thick. It's getting thick and long.

[A]

But, I mean, it's really a doozy of a situation.

[B]

I like it. You can't so Rachel's like, working with her ex. She felt it wasn't a good idea and either did Bravo because they threw up flashbacks from him being insufferable to her for many times from her past show.

[A]

I think she was probably insufferable to him at times as well. She seems pretty high maintenance.

[B]

She seems like she would be a lot. She thinks yes to her saying she puts on cat eye just to go to bed, that she has nine inch heels or she's barefoot. She's definitely really, really dressed up all the time. Like.

[A]

But this is what I appreciate is at least this is who she is. And we know. And she admits it from the beginning.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I love that it's not like somebody who we've seen past pictures of them from, like five years ago and they look like a completely different person. Like, no, this is who she's been from the beginning that we've ever seen her on our television screens, which has been years, Years, years, years. Then Erica and Bose go to dinner. Erica talks about finding out Tom was sentenced to prison. She wonders if she should say goodbye because it was very difficult to.

[B]

This was right before she was supposed to go on stage. Is like, she's in London, she's doing the show. And literally, like, right before she goes on stage, she finds out this information. Like, what do you do? What are you supposed to do? Definitely puts a damper on your mood, that's for sure. I mean, with him for 20 something years, what about how.

[A]

Then Bose brings up Jesse Solomon.

[B]

Oh, my God. I had no idea that that was going to happen. And let me just tell you, she didn't deny it.

[A]

She didn't deny it. But then she said there was something better. But then that makes sense because she met the dude at that concert. Oh, she met her current dude? Yeah.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that. Is that her current boyfriend now?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, I didn't.

[A]

Is.

[B]

Are we going to see him on the show?

[A]

I think. I think. I think we're gonna see a little bit. But I love seeing Erica being able to open up about herself without judgment. I do love it.

[B]

I do, too. And I want to see Erica dating. That's something that we've never seen. Tom didn't play a big role since she was. When she was on the show. He wasn't on that often. And now that she's single and gone through hell and back, I would like to see her happy and dating and all those things.

[A]

Me too. Then Kyle has a floral party. The ladies asked Sutton about her Friendship with Garcelle. Hold on for a second. Tell me if I saw. Did we see the new girl for a second at the.

[B]

I don't think.

[A]

Who did they think was Dorit but wasn't Dorit?

[B]

Oh, that was.

[A]

The girl that some random.

[B]

No, Wasn't it Kyle's friend?

[A]

Wasn't Jen. No, it was with Faye, but not Faye.

[B]

Oh, I thought it was Faye Fay that they were talking about. Okay, so it was. Was it the new girl?

[A]

Well, I think it. To me it looked kind of like. Because they were saying, is that Dorit? And if you go back and look at pictures of Amanda, there's times where she kind of looks like Dorit. So I'm wondering, was Amanda in this episode and we didn't clock it?

[B]

No, I don't think Amanda was there. I think that that was somebody else. She just hasn't been introduced yet. I don't know. How many new people do they have this season? Do you know?

[A]

So we've got Rachel.

[B]

Who's Ali.

[A]

We've got Amanda, and we've got Rachel. And then I think there's one other person that comes in.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I think.

[B]

Is my guessing it up?

[A]

We don't know. But all the girls were surprised that Garcelle and Sutton hadn't talked.

[B]

Wait, I have a question.

[A]

Yes?

[B]

Why did. Did you find it weird that Bose brought Keely to the girl's party?

[A]

Yes. And his mom. Her mom or his mom.

[B]

He was the only guy by himself. Did she think that the other men were going to be there?

[A]

No. She even told him in the car when they were laughing. She's like, there aren't any going to be any husbands here. No one's married.

[B]

Do you think this is opportunity for her to get him in front of all the women?

[A]

But he wasn't. We never got to talk to him. But the good news for him is he never pulled any. Because we've had this floral party before when Aaron Pfeiffers was around and Denise. Remember we were all sitting on the floor and then Denise got upset and then they laughed and went and squeezed her fucking hand and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we didn't see any of that. The.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

Yeah. So I don't know. I feel like I've been to that party before. Can we also talk about Erica describing Sutton as a box?

[B]

I'm like, it's a fatty photo all over again. Let's see if they run with us. Let's see if the person she said that to goes and runs and tells everybody. She's like, slim. What she say? She's something about Slim Shady or something first. Then she goes like, slim. She's a box.

[A]

Slim Sutton.

[B]

That's what she said. Slim Sutton. And she's like, slim. No, she's a box.

[A]

Well, I don't think she said no, she just said, she's a box. But I don't think she meant. Like.

[B]

She meant it. I know the things we say. The things we say, ladies.

[A]

It's like I have to learn another language so I can speak around when y' all freaking say that.

[B]

I know you need to get some training from Stacy from Potomac. She'll teach you how to just dance around that question.

[A]

I really do. Stacy from Potomac still weighs on my heart days later. Like, I'm like, how did we get so.

[B]

Like, I was talking to Dolores about it when we read Capitomic and I said, me and Teddy interviewed her. She seemed very lovely and nice and sweet and beautiful and all those things. But after we got done, we're like, did she answer any questions?

[A]

No, not one. Not a one.

[B]

She is the star of Dancing Around Questions.

[A]

Well, everybody is obsessed with her. That's on this group chat because we're just seeing it right now.

[B]

Everybody is obsessed with her. But could you imagine working with somebody that can never give a straight answer? I would lose my freaking mind.

[A]

So I just want to read what our producers have written, why we've been talking. Lucky to have her. Stacy is the star of the network. You respect her. She is the best casting in 20 years. Yes.

[B]

Like, sit down, girls. Sit down.

[A]

Don't get your panties on. Yes.

[B]

You're going to be okay. Let's see how the season ends. Let's say. I can't.

[A]

They're so revved up. They're, like, hot and red at the moment, like, typing like crazy people.

[B]

I keep looking down. Relax. You relax. The girls asked to read if she has told her kids about the divorce, because last year she was not telling them. So this year, yes, she says that they know and. But she hasn't set them down and talked to them about it. They know, but she hasn't set them down. Now, do you really believe the druit when she says Mauricio is to blame for PK's partying and dating women?

[A]

No, I 1. I don't believe that. You can't blame somebody else for your own.

[B]

Well, she's like, oh, PK saw how much fun Mo is having, so now he wants to join in on the fun. It's not. What are we Doing.

[A]

Doreen was kind of pulling a Stacy and beating around the bush when answering the question to the kids. Now.

[B]

I know she says they know, but she hasn't set them down to tell him. But they maybe should be sat down and told.

[A]

Yeah, they might. Some clarity should be sat down and, like, given the full info.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, I mean, kids. Minds are going to change. They're going to change so much. I mean, even Cruz the other day was like, mom. And I was like, yeah. And he's like, do you have a second? And I was like, yeah, I was waiting for it. And he's like, do you think you and dad will get back together? And I was like, why? Do you want us to? And he's like, sometimes.

[B]

Isn't it like a punch in the stomach? I remember a time where it was Easter, and I had the Easter baskets, and I'm cooking for the kids in my tiny little apartment, and there's Simon in his big old. You know, the big old house that we had 4, 500 square feet. And they said, mom, do you think dad has dinner tonight for Easter? And I just remember feeling like I just got punched in the gut. Like, I was. I almost threw up, you know, so it's. It's hard, like, all.

[A]

It's hard when they say that. And then you start thinking, and then I'm like, is there anything else you want to ask? And he's like, what'd he say? He's like, no. He's like. I'm like, do you like. And I named the guy that I'm dating. And he said, yes. And I said, do you like. And I named the girl that is Edwin's girlfriend. And he said, yep. And I said, so.

[B]

Still not the same for the kids, though.

[A]

Well, that's what he said.

[B]

Yeah. And I think you will find as time goes on and it's, you know, now the kids are. Had time to think about it and go through holidays. It gets harder before it gets better. It really does. For a few years. It gets really hard.

[A]

Yeah. I can already feel it getting.

[B]

And there's always one kid I think that's, like, really fixated on. I want my parents back together and can't get over it.

[A]

He even made this cute face where he was like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, oh, I just want to bite his little face off. That little cutie. I love him so much.

[B]

Hard for the. I mean, it's hard for everybody involved.

[A]

And then I realized Stacy would have known how to answer these questions better than me.

[B]

She would. Oh, my gosh. Cruz would have been thank you. No, that's great.

[A]

Stacy's my new babysitter.

[B]

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[A]

Then Rachel tells Kyle that someone tried to set her. This is kind of comes out of nowhere. They're talking about just like the guys dating and blah blah. And then Rachel's like, well someone tried to set me up with Mal. Yeah, at least three people at one party were trying to set us up and I was thinking who? Name them, name them, name them.

[B]

Come on Sutton, you got to get to the bottom of this. We got to figure out who's trying to set her up with Mo.

[A]

Who.

[B]

I mean it didn't phase Kyle whatsoever.

[A]

Is that our coffee?

[B]

I personally don't wouldn't see a good match between Mauricio and Rachel because Mauricio seems to be Dating toddlers.

[A]

Well, not just that. Not just the toddlers and TRS dating. It's that he. It's like such like a chill, laid back guy. Like, could you imagine him with somebody that like Kyle, when she's not filming, she is casual also, like, she's like, puts on her sneaks, likes to work out, likes to go hiking, likes to be outdoors. I don't really see that for Rachel Zoe. And so I also wonder, and Aspen is a. Aspen is a small town.

[B]

Is it?

[A]

I've never.

[B]

Do you know, I've never been to Aspen.

[A]

We should go. It's so much fun. It's so much fun.

[B]

Speaking of Rachel, can we talk? We only got to see one of her sons in this episode.

[A]

Yeah, and he was such a love bug.

[B]

God, was he. He's like a 40 year old man. Like she said. You want to hear the quote of the day? Do you want to like, you know, what's, what's cooking, mom?

[A]

Like, and the way he cuddled her and stuff was like. It felt so actually real, not like forced.

[B]

Yeah, I thought a little bit of her conversation was a little forced with him.

[A]

The conversation maybe, but like not the cuddling. That was.

[B]

No, not at all. Like, what did she say to him? So do you have any girlfriends? He's like, the hormones haven't kicked in yet, Mom. I'm like, how old are you?

[A]

Well, yesterday I was sitting around with the kids and they were talking about, you know, guys or girls that they may like. And I said, do you ever like give yourself a rating? And they're like, what do you mean a rating? I'm like, like, what would you rate yourself? So now my question goes to you, Tam. What do you rate yourself?

[B]

Rate myself? Overall. On what?

[A]

Overall on like just who you are as a human being, person, attractiveness, all the things.

[B]

Oh God, that's a horrible question to ask.

[A]

Yeah, but you have to answer myself.

[B]

Well, I think there's different parts. Like, do. How do I rate myself on looks? Give myself a five. How do I write myself five?

[A]

That's what you would give yourself?

[B]

Yeah, I don't have like those high, like think that I'm beautiful or anything like that. Not at all.

[A]

You need it. You're more than a 5. 5.

[B]

Average insecure about. Well, I'm an average girl that can look good with professional makeup. That's how I look at it.

[A]

Your tagline say otherwise.

[B]

Well, that was just me being sarcastic. And we didn't do taglines like that back then. We just like said stuff. Insane and they took that, Right. Yeah.

[A]

Which is even funnier.

[B]

So, I mean, as far as being loyal, which might shock most people, I am very loyal to my friends, and I give myself a 10 on that. But I don't know, that's. What do you rate yourself?

[A]

Well, currently I'm not that high. But my. I feel like sometimes I can rate higher than others. Like, right now, I'm looking at myself in this little box. It's not a high rating.

[B]

Well, maybe Zoom cameras don't always look that great, you know?

[A]

Yeah, it's definitely the zoom camera angle. Not anything.

[B]

I've been feeling ugly lately. You know how you go through your thing, your times where you're like, oh, my makeup looks great. Like, it's so easy to put on. And, like, I barely have to wear any. And then other times I'm like, why do I look like this? Why do I look like this?

[A]

Well, I get mad that your screen always looks slightly blurred and mine looks like you can see my red face pulsating all.

[B]

Well, mine on my end just looks like I'm a ghost. It's so white.

[A]

I don't know why.

[B]

I've tried changing it. I might have a filter on. You know, there are some filters on Zoom.

[A]

Well, of course, nobody's figured that out for me. They just leave me here to struggle by myself. God forbid we get me a filter on here. My. What is my AI Companion? Nope, not.

[B]

I don't understand this new zoom with the AI Companions.

[A]

What did my AI Companion going to do for me? Are they going to give me funny jokes? I don't know, because all it said was that I would have to log into my AI Companion. No, if I wanted to log into my AI Companion, that's where I'd be right now.

[B]

I don't even know what that is. But do you know what a hot girl summer is?

[A]

Yeah, Hot girl summer.

[B]

What does that mean?

[A]

It just. You're gonna.

[B]

In bed with a man at my age, hot girl summer would be like, I'm having a wedding. It's too hot out there. I can't. I can't stand it anymore. But Rachel Zoe was hoping for a hot girl summer. We see that. And then in the trailer, we are saying, this is not a hot girl summer.

[A]

This is not a hot girl summer. So hot girl summer, I think, is just folk hot girls doing the most to have fun they can and living like that. But I guess it wasn't really a hot girl summer for most.

[B]

No, not really.

[A]

But I am looking forward to this Season.

[B]

I am too.

[A]

What about. Did you see in the scenes for next week where Kathy looks over at what I'm assuming is Amanda and goes, know your place and sit down.

[B]

Ooh, Kathy has stepped it up. That's a great tease. Kathy pulling out a pair of jeans from her pants to get her back. I mean, what did I say from her pants? Oh, Kathy pulling out a pair of pants from her bag and just holding like. She's unintentionally funny.

[A]

She's hilarious.

[B]

And the girls are like, why are you. Well, they're rag and bone.

[A]

Aren't they cute?

[B]

I think that they're gonna look great on Kyle. So I bought them. I want a sister like that.

[A]

Just until she wasn't there.

[B]

She wasn't there. But we do see in the trailer, like she has had it with Sutton and makes a little snide comment about. Now we know why Garcella.

[A]

I feel like Sutton has changed a bit.

[B]

Well, Sutton has had quite a few losses while filming. There's the loss of her friendship with Garcelle. Her husband, you know, sent her back with her old last name. Her son is going to college. Avi's gone. So there's been a lot of losses. So I want to know what happened to Avi.

[A]

And I have you think he left and works for Garcelle?

[B]

He's with Garcelle now. Could you imagine? Can we get Avi on the twat seat?

[A]

AI on the twat seat. And 12 12.

[B]

Has you. Have you heard anything about anything? Any update about Sutton's house being broken into?

[A]

No, I haven't seen anything else about it. But then I also read that it was not just Sutton's house, it was also Kathy Hilton.

[B]

Well, I heard what I read is that Kathy Hilton's house was broken into as well. But Rick was home, so he called the cops and evidently scared them off. I couldn't imagine. It's too easy to break into Kathy's house. Now, we all know that Sutton's house is on a main road.

[A]

On a main road, on the main road.

[B]

But it's still gated. So Kathy's. I've never seen the outside of her house. I'm sure you have. I envision it being this big giant house set far back in gates, all around it and in a gated community. Am I wrong?

[A]

It's. And it's gated, but I don't know that it's in a gated community. Okay, but to get in there is gated.

[B]

What is with all these break ins and. And the valley in Beverly Hills. What is going on?

[A]

Are they track tracking where we are all the time or what's happening?

[B]

Absolutely, I would imagine.

[A]

I hate it.

[B]

Bravo cons going on. So let's go after these houses.

[A]

But I. I should have checked in with Sutton.

[B]

I. Yeah, you should. I. I think, though, you know, moving forward, if there's a big thing going on or you're going, you're traveling, don't post it on Instagram. Obviously everybody knew Bravicon was happening. Make sure somebody's in your house.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

It's crazy sad that we. The world has gotten to this, that you can't even, you know, your house. Like, having your house broken into has got to be the most personal, scary. I know.

[A]

I don't know the. I don't know the details about it. Kyle's been out of town. I haven't talked to her and I haven't speak spoken to Sutton, so I'm not sure.

[B]

Sutton was. She was really sweet at ran.

[A]

Really sweet. Yeah, she seems more chill.

[B]

Yeah, she does.

[A]

Like we're only seeing the one side of Sutton, you know, how do you keeps talking about how there's two sides of Sutton.

[B]

Well, there's two sides to all of us. Come on around and find out. I'll show it to you. I can be sweet as can be, but if you want to cross me, you got another thing coming.

[A]

Yeah, you're gonna see what's gonna happen next.

[B]

Yeah, you're gonna see what's gonna happen.

[A]

But I do think that without sounding crazy, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was kind of a breath of fresh air.

[B]

Oh, absolutely. After the ending of Orange County. Yeah. I was hoping for some drama. They can start talking about that.

[A]

I know. Well, you give it a couple weeks and then it'll rotate over to somebody else. But I know I. I can't wait till I can talk to you about O.C. because.

[B]

Yeah, I just need a moment, man.

[A]

I know, I know. We just need a moment. But thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of two G's in a Pod.

[B]

Welcome back, Beverly Hills.

[A]

Welcome back.

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