Fishin’ and Suspicion (Southern Charm Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge Episode: Fishin’ and Suspicion (Southern Charm Recap)
Release Date: January 24, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In the episode titled "Fishin’ and Suspicion", Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge dive deep into the latest happenings of Southern Charm. As seasoned observers of reality television, the Two Ts bring their unique perspectives, dissecting character dynamics, plot twists, and the overarching drama that keeps fans hooked. This detailed recap not only highlights key moments from the episode but also offers insightful commentary that enriches the viewing experience.

Key Themes and Discussions

1. Relationship Turmoil and Character Dynamics

Gaston and Taylor's Relationship:

Teddi and Tamra open the discussion by addressing the evolving relationship between Gaston and Taylor. Teddi expresses her uncertainty about Gaston’s true intentions, stating, “I think he’s attractive. So when Shep said he's not even, what did he say? He's not good” ([03:35]). This sentiment underscores Teddi’s skepticism about Gaston’s sincerity, especially considering his absence from significant events.

JT and Vanita's Complicated Romance:

The hosts delve into JT’s interactions with Vanita, highlighting the complexity of their relationship. Tamra points out, “I think she really is still into him” ([24:21]), indicating that despite JT’s questionable actions, Vanita remains emotionally invested. This dynamic adds a layer of tension, as JT’s intentions remain unclear to the audience.

Craig and Paige’s Struggles:

Craig’s relationship with Paige takes center stage as Teddi and Tamra discuss their on-screen struggles. Teddi empathizes with Craig, stating, “The writing was on the wall. You could tell that she was pulling away from him and it just breaks my heart” ([19:15]). The hosts analyze Craig’s desires for a traditional family setup and Paige’s reluctance, painting a vivid picture of their ongoing conflict.

2. Significant Episode Events

The Fishing Trip:

A major plot point in this episode is the fishing trip involving Chef Craig and JT. Teddi reminisces about her own fishing experiences, saying, “I fish when I was younger with my dad” ([09:06]), drawing parallels to the characters’ recreational activities. The trip serves as a backdrop for revealing deeper emotional undercurrents and unresolved tensions between the characters.

Sienna's Revelations:

Sienna’s storyline adds intrigue as her past actions come to light. The hosts discuss her involvement with Clayton on The Bachelor, highlighting her conflicted emotions: “She went into the Bachelor. It was Clayton... she gives him his first rose” ([05:36]). This revelation complicates her relationships within the group, creating ripples of distrust and suspicion.

Molly’s Character Development:

Molly’s personal growth and challenges are also dissected by Teddi and Tamra. They reflect on her struggles with self-image and how it affects her interactions: “She often talks about the weight that she's gained and she's still beautiful” ([20:40]). This honest portrayal resonates with viewers, adding depth to her character beyond the surface-level drama.

3. Hosts' Insights and Reactions

Teddi's Critical Perspective:

Teddi often takes a critical stance on the characters’ actions, especially JT’s behavior. She states unequivocally, “There's just nothing going to change my mind about him” ([22:34]), emphasizing her unwavering opinion on JT’s integrity within the group.

Tamra's Empathetic View:

Contrastingly, Tamra exhibits empathy towards certain characters’ plights. She reflects on Craig’s situation, saying, “Craig is so cute” ([19:38]), showcasing her softer side amidst the critique.

Humorous Banter and Relatability:

The hosts intersperse their serious analysis with light-hearted jokes and personal anecdotes, making the discussion relatable and engaging. For instance, Teddi jokes about modern relationships, “All of a sudden, okay, so after we get to the tuba and we're fishing... it's a lot” ([09:50]), adding humor to their recap.

Notable Quotes

• Teddi Mellencamp at [03:35]: “I think he’s attractive. So when Shep said he's not even, what did he say? He's not good.”

• Tamra Judge at [24:21]: “Clearly, Shep is still into him.”

• Teddi Mellencamp at [19:15]: “The writing was on the wall. You could tell that she was pulling away from him and it just breaks my heart.”

• Teddi Mellencamp at [22:34]: “There's just nothing going to change my mind about him.”

Conclusion

In "Fishin’ and Suspicion", Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge provide a thorough and entertaining recap of Southern Charm, dissecting the tangled relationships and dramatic events that define the latest episode. Their balanced mix of critique, empathy, and humor offers listeners a comprehensive understanding of the show’s intricate dynamics. As always, the Two Ts leave their audience eagerly anticipating the next episode, promising more insightful discussions and candid opinions in future recaps.

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Transcript

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[Grant]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Unknown]

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And of course, drama.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

These other girls are dating my boyfriend. You act like you don't care.

[Unknown]

He knows how I feel.

[Grant]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Unknown]

Two T's in a pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi guys.

[Unknown]

Welco to another episode of two Te's.

[Tamara Judge]

In a Pod with me and Tam.

[Unknown]

We are going to get into a little bit of Southern charm. I mean, we may as well just call this episode like Gaston. Shit's hitting the fan for you, buddy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Gaston. No wonder you don't want to film Gaston.

[Unknown]

Maybe you should film so people don't blatantly talk about you 24 7.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, guys can change. I think we haven't seen enough of him to. I don't get the douche bag vibe from him when he does film. That's the thing.

[Unknown]

I'm sure he likes Taylor just fine. But that doesn't mean that he's not a cheater or that. I mean, I don't even find him unattractive. Like, I. He's whatever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think he's attractive. So when Shep said he's not even, what did he say? He's not good.

[Unknown]

I hate when good looking.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I hate when guys say that about another guy. He's not even good looking.

[Unknown]

But I'm sorry, unless you're Brad Pitt, don't say it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, not even him. I mean, come on, Shep.

[Unknown]

Yeah, like I love Shep, but I also. I'm not trying to bone down Shep. Vanita arrives at Sally's house the day after the housewarming party. All of the food is still out from the night before. There's a shoe in the bushes and koozie scattered everywhere. Vanita's returning Sally's clothes after she borrowed them from the following nights. Drowning.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh yeah, this big drowning incident.

[Unknown]

And then Sally tells Vanita that she told Taylor that a lot of people in the group don't trust her. And then Vanita insists that Taylor knows this because they've all been open about it with her. And then they flashback to last year's reunion where Taylor was called out because she went behind Olivia's back and kissed Austin. And then Vanita hopes that that Taylor doesn't just distance herself now because of this conversation. Even though Gaston is never around, they hope she's happy with him. Was this a housewarming party or like a frat hazing? Cause, because like this. It was a lot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was a young people's housewarming party.

[Unknown]

But let's not forget, I think they're my age.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Are they really?

[Unknown]

Chef is. I don't know how old Sally is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Shep is older than you. Hold on.

[Unknown]

We need to talk about Sally. Did you see the clip I sent?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Unknown]

Off Tamara.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The one where she's on the Bachelor.

[Unknown]

Where she's on the Bachelor. On Clayton season.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And what season was this?

[Unknown]

I don't know. What?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, is it all. I don't watch Bachelor. So was it a long time ago? Was it recent? Or was it before she's ever been seen on Southern Charm? Is she as serial reality star?

[Unknown]

It's definitely before she was seen on Southern Charm. But she had just gotten out. They showed the clip from the Bachelor. She went in to the Bachelor. It was Clayton was the Bachelor. And she tells him that she was supposed to be getting married on this day, but her fiance and her broke up and she didn't think that she could stay. Then he gave her his first rose, which means, like, I really want you here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then she still left and she declined it.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, then why was she on the show?

[Unknown]

Well, I think she wanted it. Maybe she thought she was ready and then she wasn't ready. Or maybe she wasn't into Clayton.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Right. Maybe she went and went. Maybe not.

[Unknown]

Yeah, like, I don't need to spend time here. Or maybe she just got there and got upset. I mean, clearly she falls hard and fast for people, so, you know, whatevs. Taylor remembers the moment she fell in love with Gaston. They were at dinner and she felt like she was talking to her best friend. She doesn't say she wants to spend the rest of her life with him because she doesn't want to jinx it, but she'd like to spend a good amount of time with him. Well, he won't go with you to any events, so you're filming. That might be a problem out of the year. So it's not a good sign. Then Gaston will be missing Molly's tuba concert, which I want to do as well.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm like, oh. Oh. I felt like, honestly, I was at, like, one of my kids midd school recitals.

[Unknown]

Well, also, like, they knew that Molly was filming. Could they not put her, like, further up so we could even see her here?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know Shep standing up. Where is she? Where is she?

[Unknown]

But also, is Molly getting paid to do this or is this like a recreational tube of playing? I'm confused.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can't. No, I Think it was. It was sweet, and I think Molly is so sweet. It was just not interesting.

[Unknown]

I mean, we can't play the tubatam. Can we play any instrument?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I played the clarinet.

[Unknown]

Can you play a song on the clarinet?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You play the skin flute?

[Unknown]

What's the skin flute? This? Yeah. Probably not lately, I hope. Maybe tonight. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Chef, that app's really working.

[Unknown]

The app is apping. Oh, God. Chef Craig and JT Are going fishing together. Funnily enough, their captain's name is Austin. So that means Austin's there with them in spirit this entire scene. Like, if JT hadn't already ruined himself for me, watching him not even be able to pick up a fish. Like, I grew up. I grew up there. Like, I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So did you go fishing?

[Unknown]

Pick up a bait fish.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you go fishing?

[Unknown]

You did?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because a chef just talks about fishing all the time, and then they fish. They get that gigantic fish, and they just throw them back in. So it's just fishing for sport? Like, it's fishing for sport.

[Unknown]

Yeah. You have to do as. Yeah. Especially if it's a certain. I don't know if it's changed now, but the rules were, when we were kids, if it was a certain kind of fish, you had to throw it back, because there wasn't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So then you have to know your kinds of fishes.

[Unknown]

Yeah. And the. In most.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know your kinds of fishes.

[Unknown]

No, but the. Whatever dudes I was hanging out with to try to impress that I knew how to fish, they knew their types of fishes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I fish when I was younger with my. My dad would take us, but they were like, no, we fishing farms where you just.

[Unknown]

They.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They load the fish in there.

[Unknown]

It's like, hey, more than fishing, we would do.

[Tamara Judge]

Shoot. What's it called where you go on.

[Unknown]

You're in the middle of the ocean, and. Oh, we'd go to the sandbars. So sandbars. There's like, you're in the middle of the ocean, but then all of a sudden, it's like this deep.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is it an ocean where I'm like.

[Unknown]

Pull our boats up. It's an ocean. It's in South Carolina.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is it? I don't know. I've never been there before. I didn't know there was sandbar. I didn't know there were sandbars in the ocean.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So you go way out there, and then there's like, two feet, and then.

[Unknown]

You can find how deep everything is. Then everybody figures out where the shallow spot is. We all would park Our boats. And then we'd all hang out and drink Boone's Farm on. On the whatever. At the. The sandbar. But we loved it. So. Fishing, sandbar, knee boarding, all that stuff. That's how we grew up. But then all of a sudden, okay, so after we get to the tuba and we're fishing. Tj, I. I don't even understand how we're supposed to believe he's friends with any of these guys. Like, they cannot even look at him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, we see later on in the episode that none of them are. The only one that is fond of him is Vanita, which.

[Unknown]

It doesn't work out for her with that. But then Austin.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you know they dated?

[Unknown]

Yeah. Disgusting.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They dated. Did. He dumped her?

[Unknown]

He ghosted her once he got on the show.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then then, like Ghoster in October and then November, started posting pictures of a new girl on his Instagram.

[Unknown]

But also, jt, like, you have, like. I. I feel like Vanita's picker might be slightly off. And this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You can tell when she chases after him. She's still. No, I think she's still into him.

[Unknown]

How.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But then it looked yummy or something like that.

[Unknown]

I can't. She also jumped into a pool fully clothed. She was almost drowned.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She was drinking.

[Unknown]

So maybe she was drinking the night that she decided that she liked JT as well, because. Let's hope so. Then Austin visits Whitney.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you know they were secretly dating? Nobody knew. Yeah, the season was filmed before they broke up.

[Unknown]

Yeah, Yeah, I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I. I'm just blown away by that. Why would she date him?

[Unknown]

Because the other guy broke up with her because he went to Broadway and she was bummed out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And there's so many other guys out there.

[Unknown]

No, apparently there isn't. There's Craig. There's Craig. Austin. Those are the only cornerstone.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The only four guys.

[Unknown]

And, yeah, there's not that many options, apparently. Then Austin visits Whitney over at Patricia's house. Since Whitney can't figure out how to work the espresso machine, he decides to pour a glass of Pappy's bourbon, which cost a thousand dollars a bottle for him and Austin. Then Madison comes. Madison was barely in this episode, which is upsetting to me because she's very upsetting.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Very upsetting. Madison's hatred for JT is just so entertaining for me. The girl hates it.

[Unknown]

Probably matches mine. And he's never even said he slept with me or had an affair with me. But dislike jt.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We can see if he's single.

[Unknown]

Oh, he has a comb over a.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Come over is a thing.

[Unknown]

It's a comb.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Over is a choice.

[Unknown]

Shave your head. You know what? I'm going to give a PSA if you're going bald or you're having a massive receding hairline. Just shave it. Yes, just cut your losses. Unless you're rich as f and you can go get some quality plugs that we don't know or PRP or whatever the hell people do.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh my God, don't say that. Do you know that my Instagram feed is filled with guys that are getting hair plugs?

[Unknown]

So is mine. Why?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Why?

[Unknown]

But also the audacity of him calling out the new guy's hair when his hair is his situation. But I mean, the new guy, his delivery speech was very. It was like he wrote it on his hand and he didn't have enough confidence to say it. But anywho, you know what I want.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

For my next birthday from you?

[Unknown]

What? I'm not going to get you a present.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But sure, I know we don't do presents. A $15,000 Japanese toilet. $15,000 for a damn toilet?

[Unknown]

Pam, I don't even have toilet paper right now. This is not the time to discuss this topic. I've on my.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If you were at my house, you could just. You could just have water shoot up your either end, it goes front or back and then it air dries. But I don't like the air dry because then it blows hot air that smells like butt.

[Unknown]

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Then we're over at Craig's house. He and Shep are hanging out and cooking food. Craig shows off his remote control fire pits and Shep's happy for his friend who's always dreamed of this white picket fence lifestyle. Craig. Craig then admits for up to him him and Paige would be engaged already. But she changes her mind constantly.

[Tamara Judge]

Clearly.

[Unknown]

Yeah. I mean we get a flashback of Craig telling Paige he wants a wife and kids and she gets grossed out by it. Like I feel like the writing was on the wall.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The writing was on the wall. You could tell that she was pulling away from him and it just breaks my heart. I think Craig is so cute.

[Unknown]

Hey Craig, are you interested in a 43 year old with four kids and a lot of emotional baggage and he wants more kids?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If you end up getting pregnant, I will kill you.

[Unknown]

I'm, I'm not planning on ripping out my IUD anytime soon. Okay, so let's, let's calm our tits. Then Shep tells Craig that he dropped the L bomb with Sian Sienna very early on when they weren't clothed. I don't even believe this whole relationship. Like if we're going to talk about Gaston, we have to talk about Sienna. This is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, it comes out that she was a big fan of the show and.

[Unknown]

Also I think Shep is into Molly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I, I think they would Make a very cute couple. To be honest with you.

[Unknown]

I think they could. You know, I want Molly to be a little more, like, beat into herself. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I mean, I know that I can be a Debbie Downer and my voice doesn't change and it's tone, it's just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But, you know, honestly, I feel. I think she looks beautiful. But she often talks about the weight that she's gained and she's still beautiful. She's far from overweight.

[Unknown]

She's a beautiful girl and she's funny. And, like, honestly, I don't want to have tantric sex either.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And either do I. But she did tell us that playing the tube is a little bit harder now because she has lip filler.

[Unknown]

You know what? I feel her. Watch me try to drink this. And this isn't from filler. This is from the Botox lip. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Well, I can barely.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, okay, well, sorry.

[Unknown]

Then.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Everyone arrives at the concert.

[Unknown]

We're moving through this. We don't need to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's a proud dad.

[Unknown]

Let's just get right into. We've already talked about San Tantric sex. We get to JT Telling Taylor about Sally and Gaston's relationship, and he says it lasted a few months. Taylor immediately is, like, upset and she's denying this, but honestly, who cares?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's a past relationship. Obviously, he's going to downplay it because there she's in this mix.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

On this same show. She's not gonna. He's not gonna say, oh, yeah, I loved her and all that stuff. Like, I don't talk to any girlfriends. I don't.

[Unknown]

But if they were gonna be on the show, why not just say, yeah, we were in a relationship and then I cheated on her? Gaston is not the one, Taylor. And I see that you're trying to protect him, but why are you protecting somebody that wasn't there for you on your birthday? Wasn't there for you? Any of these events when people are going to come for you, it makes. It's giving. Like I'm a puss and I know I have a bad reputation, so I'm going to just make Taylor fight my battles.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I just need to see more of them before I jump to any conclusion.

[Unknown]

No, I've already jumped.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay. I need to see more. I can be very. I can speak.

[Unknown]

Okay. I'm sure being an amazing guy, he.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Could, but I'm going to speak in absolutes when it comes to JT because there's just nothing going to change my mind about him.

[Unknown]

Okay. So, I mean, I think he's instead of helping Taylor. I think he's trying to trick Taylor and actually wanting to be with him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh duh.

[Unknown]

Because yeah he does right now sweat like I'm so hot in here I could, you know, I don't need a dub.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But like why is it 80 degrees in Orange county right now?

[Unknown]

It's 127 degrees right now. All of a sudden.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't understand to be you.

[Unknown]

I'm like honestly about to get naked on here. Listen, just because I have five star feet and yours are 4.1, don't be jealous.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, off. Oh, those are fighting words.

[Unknown]

All the way off yourself. Yeah, those socks. You probably, you don't probably didn't even pull the little part that's like supposed to be over the toes. It's probably like touching your toes. You're probably not even particular about it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh shut up. You were in a mood.

[Unknown]

But anyway then well, J.T. j.T. Continues on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, he just continues. How about when J.T. says sorry Mr. Toothpick eyebrows and shitty hairline guy not listening.

[Unknown]

Well I mean the guy's delivery was not good but he didn't need to like come for his appearance at that point. And especially if you're J.T. but Taylor's like repeatedly said I don't want to hear it, I don't want to talk about it, I don't want to do it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you do notice on this show when they get into fights and they're in group one leaves at a time, they just, they're like we're out of here. We're not filming anymore. It's so not housewife. Like, like there's. Do you have a bird in your cabin there?

[Unknown]

Yeah, I probably do. I, I can't tell you the state that I'm right now. Yeah, I'm revved up. I have no air, I can't breathe. I'm drinking from water.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let me just get this out so you can go do your horseshit. So Veneto was really there for JT when he took off and you can see, I mean even though he ghosted her and they broke up and got a new girlfriend, I think that she really is still into him.

[Unknown]

Well, I don't probably watch back this episode but the thing that I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

Here'S the other thing.

[Unknown]

I don't hate Sally and I actually.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

To hate about her and I actually.

[Unknown]

Feel bad for Taylor. I also don't need to see any more of Shep fake relationship with the chick. I I now that I know Craig and Paige are done. I need that relationship to morph into this incestuous group in some capacity. Well, I need him and Austin to make up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They need to make. Do you think that they're going to make up now that Craig has broken up with his girlfriend Paige?

[Unknown]

For sure. They've already hung out. They posted it on Instagram.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, coming up, Shop isn't hearing back from Sienna. Shocker. We find out that Sienna is a huge fan of Southern charm. Craig and Austin are still fighting, and JT ad he's extremely attracted to Vanita.

[Unknown]

I am liking Southern charm, but this episode was a little bit of, a little bit dicey at times. But, I mean, but what it didn't fill was Taylor's cup. Because once again, the guy she's picked is going to be taken down this entire season. And Gaston, if you were smart, you would show up to filming.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Start filming. Maybe he's shy. I, I, maybe his other girlfriend will find out.

[Unknown]

Didn't he get a blow job? And didn't Sally say she was giving a blow job? Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She goes, and I gave him. I gave him. What'd she say? A little partial. Partial or a little? And someone goes, what's a little bj?

[Unknown]

It means like you didn't do it to fruition. It was, you know what?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was just the tip.

[Unknown]

More power to her. No, she did it, but it, she didn't finish it is what I would say.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He didn't finish it.

[Unknown]

He didn't finish it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He didn't finish it.

[Unknown]

Probably because he's been boning down so much. It takes some time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. Okay, let's be done with this.

[Unknown]

All right, well, guys, we'll be back till next week. Appreciate y'all.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Bye.

[Ashley Iaconetti]

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