Friend-Zoned Forever (Summer House Recap)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod – “Friend-Zoned Forever” (Summer House Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode Air Date: March 4, 2026
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge

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Main Theme

This episode features Teddi and Tamra breaking down and recapping "Summer House" Season 10, Episode 5. The hosts provide their signature blend of sharp humor and insider Housewives perspective to dissect the love triangles, messy dynamics, and emerging friendships (or friend zones) within the summer share house. The episode centers on romantic confusion, shifting alliances, and standout moments from the big Medieval Times party.

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Key Discussion Points & Recap

1. Medieval Times Party & Cast Antics

[02:32 – 05:20]

• The episode opens with the two new girls pranking everyone dressed as leaves.
• Teddi: “Can we talk about how they start out the episode with the two new girls and little leaf outfits scaring everybody coming in?” (02:35)
• Tamra: Wonders if the leaves were props or part of their medieval décor.
• Bailey asks Jesse, “Do I smell?” and he jokes, “You’ve smelled better.”
• Sierra’s rat costume: Stands out amid others’ “sexy” outfits, but as Tamra quips, “She even makes a rat outfit sexy.” (03:45)
• Lindsay makes Carl bow to her—the hosts agree Carl is trying too hard, but Lindsay appears genuinely happy.

2. The Perpetually Messy House

[03:53 – 04:43]

• Teddi questions how no one cares about the perpetual mess.
• Tamra: “Because they don’t care… I have a feeling they have cleaners that come in after each party and cleans up.” (04:06)
• Production team is believed to clean up after events.

3. Gender Imbalance at the Party

[04:43 – 05:20]

• Teddi points out, “Did you notice this episode? There was only girls there. Like no dudes came to the party.” (05:03)
• They wonder if outsiders/extras are recruited by casting.

4. Lindsay, Carl, and Relationship Statuses

[05:20 – 05:54]

• Lindsay and Carl’s dynamic continues: “She’s moving on.”
• Tamra predicts a natural friendship emerging between them, noting their past engagement is fading.

5. Ben, Dara, and The Friend-Zone Dissection

[05:54 – 06:56]

• Ben is excited for Dara, but Dara calls West “the best person ever until you’re dating him.” (06:19)
• Notable Insight: Dara dated West for six months—she describes him as “allergic to commitment.”

6. The West, Ciara & Jesse Triangle

[06:56 – 08:42]

• Teddi thinks Ciara might still be in love with West, despite new flirtation drama.
• Jesse asks West if he can make out with Ciara; Lindsay relays this to Ciara, stirring the pot.
• Tamra calls Lindsay “the bone collector” for relaying messages without all the facts (08:03).
• West is visibly uncomfortable about Jesse’s request, contradicting Lindsay’s claim he “didn’t give a shit.”

7. Ciara’s Emotional Response

[08:42 – 10:00]

• Ciara’s annoyance is less with Jesse and more with West’s denial of his feelings:
  Teddi: “He made it clear that he cared.” (08:41)
• Ciara internalizes the group’s actions, feeling hurt by being treated like an object.

8. Bailey, Levi, and Newbie Dynamics

[13:43 – 14:42]

• Dara and KJ’s first interaction: awkwardness due to hairstyle change; playful, childish flirting.
• KJ’s lack of male “vibe”/flirtation noted—possibly stems from his upbringing.

9. Limp Dick Jousting & House Humor

[14:31 – 15:46]

• Jesse and West joust with flaccid props; Jesse kisses West without permission, paralleling the consent issue with Ciara.
• Notable Exchange:
  • Tamra: “Jesse and Wes battle it in the jousting competition which leads to Jesse kissing West, who yells, he didn’t ask permission!” (14:31)
  • Teddy: “That makes it look like it was a joke.” (14:47)

10. Jesse, Ciara, and the Fallout

[15:52 – 18:43]

• Jesse struggles to explain himself.
• Ciara is openly upset; she holds a grudge and avoids Jesse during group goodbyes.
• Jesse attempts to apologize, but the resolution is incomplete.

11. KJ & Dara: Budding Romance

[18:43 – 20:29]

• Their date is “cute” and chemistry is acknowledged.
• KJ is relieved Dara isn’t into Ben.
• They note potential conflict: “Aren’t KJ and West…close?” (19:53)
• Tamra: “Wes doesn’t give a shit. He brought his ex girlfriend of six months to a dating thing. He’s like, here, guys, boner.” (20:01)

12. West, Sierra, and Emotional Ownership

[20:29 – 21:26]

• Teddi: “I kind of just wish West would put on his big boy pants and make it work with Sierra.” (22:40)
• The hosts agree West is still in love with Sierra despite his “too cool” act.
• Ciara laments: “How can people I’m so close with look at me like I’m some sort of toy in the mirror?” (20:33)

13. Kyle, Amanda, & Relationship Progress

[16:14 – 17:16]

• Kyle and Amanda are getting along—“first episode they act like they liked each other.” (16:20)
• Hosts appreciate seeing their positive interaction for a change.

14. Carl’s Non-Alcoholic Bar & Cast Investing

[26:42 – 28:56]

• Carl opens a non-alcoholic “soft bar”—questionable business model, major investment required.
• Kyle does not invest, possibly due to financial strain post-Loverboy.
• Tamra: “Bars make a lot of money on alcohol…when you’re doing a non-alcoholic, you’re really taking a gamble.” (27:58)
• West invests; hosts debate wisdom of investing with friends.

15. Bailey’s Failed Flirting & Newbie Roundup

[29:40 – 30:27]

• Bailey’s awkward advances with West: “Bailey, you’re just missing the mark. Every time you open your mouth.” (29:45)
• Suggestion: Maybe she’d do better with a Medieval Times extra.

16. Standout Newbies

[30:29 – 31:13]

• KJ and Dara are the hosts’ favorite new additions.
• Teddi, “I want to see a Summer House romance.” (30:57)
• Levi is present but backgrounded; overall, newbies are blending in well.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On cleaning:
  • Tamra: “There’s a cleaning crew called the production that comes in after every scene.” (04:27)
• On relationship advice:
  • “Don’t expect too much out of it. Just you’re helping them out. And you have to expect you’re never getting that money back.” – Tamra on investing in friends’ businesses (28:42)
• On Ciara’s effect:
  • “Sarah, you would make a gay guy straight. You are so beautiful.” – Tamra (20:55)
• On Bailey’s flirt game:
  • “If you have to ask, yeah…” – Tamra, responding to Bailey’s uncertainty about her own flirting skills (29:54)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Medieval Times party and costumes: 02:32 – 05:20
• Discussion of house mess: 03:53 – 04:43
• West, Ciara, Jesse love triangle: 06:56 – 10:00
• Dara & KJ’s connection: 13:43 – 14:42, 18:43 – 20:29
• Jousting/kissing and innuendo: 14:31 – 15:46
• Kyle and Amanda’s positive episode: 16:14 – 17:16
• Carl’s “soft bar” investment segment: 26:42 – 28:56
• Newbie roundup: 30:29 – 31:22

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Tone, Style & Final Thoughts

Teddi and Tamra blend snarky humor, lived Bravo experience, and genuine midlife perspective as they analyze drama, romance, and the sometimes befuddling behaviors of the Summer House cast. As always, they skip the fluff and focus on the juiciest (and messiest) storylines, both critiquing and celebrating the show’s unique vibe.

Closing words:
“I want to see a Summer House romance.” – Teddi (30:57)
“They’re all fitting in smoothly. I think there’s going to be some drama coming up with this makeout controversy.” – Teddi (31:13)

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For first-time listeners:

You’ll get a brisk, funny, and detailed breakdown that covers all the drama plus expert reality TV insight — perfect if you missed the episode but still want all the highlights, context, and laughs.

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Transcript

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara. Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning. Today we are talking about Summer House Season 10, Episode 5. Yeah, there was a lot, lot. Can we talk about how they start out the episode with the two new girls and little leaf outfits scaring everybody coming in?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I kind of Thought it was cute. But did they get, did they buy those leaf, potted leaf things for just to do that or was that part of their medieval decorations?

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then when they were done scaring everybody, but then after Bailey does it, she's of course, in a non flirtatious way, goes to Jesse. She goes, do I smell? I feel like I've been in that thing for a long time. And he goes, you've smelled better.

[Tamara Judge]

How about Sierra in the rat outfit?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh my gosh. It's just everyone's else is coming out in sexy outfits and Sierra's in a

[Tamara Judge]

rat outfit because she's so sexy. She even makes a rat outfit sexy. Lindsay makes Carl bow to her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, hold on really quick. I'm confused about something on this show.

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How are they never stressed out about how messy the kitchen is?

[Tamara Judge]

Because I don't care.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, it gives me so much dirty people.

[Tamara Judge]

We know that Amanda's a hoarder, so it doesn't bother her. The guys don't care. Like, and the other girls are young. They're like, think it's a, you know, a frat house or whatever. I have a feeling they have cleaners that come in after each party and cleans up so they don't have to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Even though they show them doing like, like a little five minute cleanup.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, they're not cleaning up. There's a cleaning crew called the production that comes in and cleans everything up after every scene.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because I couldn't imagine doing that every weekend.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, these big parties they throw, like, you know, like a whole production team comes in and sets this up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I mean, there's a big huge Medieval Times party and they make it seem like it's whoever it is that's throwing it. And you're like, that is a very expensive thing. But did you notice this episode? There was only girls there. Like no dudes came to the party.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't notice that, honestly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I wonder who, how they get all these outsiders to come? Is there like a casting call? Hey, we need, you know, 20 hot people to be extras.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I, I don't know. But this was also a big thing. Lindsay makes Carl bow to her and then she's so, he's so excited that they're getting along because of that. Okay, I, I, I can't.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, don't try so hard with her anymore, Carl. Like, it is what it is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But she does seem like she's happy.

[Commercial Announcer]

She's happy.

[Tamara Judge]

She's moving on. I think just naturally they're Going to just, you know, blend in, get along like they never were engaged.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But Ben is excited to see Dara.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He.

[Tamara Judge]

He enjoyed his conversation with her at the singles event.

[Commercial Announcer]

But you know what, dude, she ain't into you. No, she ain't into.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Later in the episode. I thought she wasn't him by the way. She was kind of laying on the bed and.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I think she says she's not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I know she says she's not into him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But when Dara arrives to finally stay at the house for the weekend, she lets us in on her thoughts about west is the best person ever until you're dating him. So I didn't realize they dated for six months.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, so they dated for six months. Months. And I mean, she has said like, west is not somebody that is like boyfriend material. He's just not. He's allergic to commitment.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She, I think she said he's the best until you're falling in love with them. Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And so he's just not available.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

The girls should know that when they date him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I think that's the difference between Dara and Ciara is that I think Ciara is still in love with West.

[Tamara Judge]

I think so. And this whole Jesse stuff is just annoying, pissing her off. And, you know, Lindsay's going to make it known. So she sits Sierra down and tells her that Jesse asked West if he could make out with her with. Make out with Sierra. Sarah needed a minute to take in the information. She just heard. We see her go, go sit down by the grass. And she's not happy. Like, you could see her. Like, her, her head's in her hands. I mean, she should have just went up to J. I don't think what Jesse said was that bad. I don't. Was he like, remind me if, if I'm missing something. Did he say, like, I want to do it for a joke?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, like, that's what I think. Where. I think, you know, Lindsay being the bone collector, she didn't collect properly because she didn't give all the correct information.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. That's what I thought. I'm like, I don't remember Jesse saying. And I think Jesse was like, sincere. Like they're flirting, they're getting along. And then you see later on where Jesse doesn't really explain himself correctly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He can't. But I think the problem is when he asks west and he's like, hey, you know, can I have a chance to, you know, if I get a shot too, can I make out with Sierra? West isn't happy about it.

[Tamara Judge]

No, he's not. But I think, I think in Sierra's mind, she's more annoyed with west pretending he doesn't care when he absolutely does,

[Teddy Mellencamp]

when he does care. And he made it clear that he cared. So I don't know why Lindsay added that piece that, you know, he didn't care. He didn't give a shit. I think was the phrasing. Yeah, like he does give a shit. And he's even pulled Jesse aside and said, you know, people are saying you're a dick for even asking this. And then we see in scenes for next week, like, you know, are you still into Ciara? And west like looks down and gets all like red in the face. And I mean, I think he is.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I do too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I the part that I also was baffled by when they started even getting in their argument, Sierra seemed like she was almost into Jesse a little bit.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Tamara Judge]

see him rolling around in bed, hugging, snuggling, spooning, all the things, being very flirty. I don't know if that's just Sierra's personality and she just thinks like this is her best bud. Doesn't care. I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you have any best buds you cuddle around with?

[Tamara Judge]

No, Absolutely not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, me neither.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then Dara walks up to kj. He has no idea who she is. He can't remember that he met her

[Tamara Judge]

at the time because her hair was different.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Her hair was curly.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. It's funny when he introduced himself to Dara like they've never met before and she's like, we met, we met.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then he immediately gets kind of embarrassed. He isn't really sure if he's flirting. And I'm not actually sure if they're flirting either.

[Tamara Judge]

I think in his defense, he grew up around only women, so he didn't really have that male vibe of flirtation.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They're definitely having, like, childish flirting. Like, you want to wear one earring of each other's and you know, da, da, da.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought it was cute. And it. It leads to something.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It is going to lead to something.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. How about the jousting with the limp dicks? That would look like limp dicks. Jesse and Wes battle it in the jousting competition, which leads to Jesse kissing West, who yells, he didn't ask permission. He didn't ask permission.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. And Sierra heard that. Yep. And I just. I think that's what makes it look like it was a joke.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. Then Sierra breaks. Oh, yeah, I didn't think of it that way. You're right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like at that point when he says that, it's like, oh, is this some kind of a joke to you?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Sierra breaks down at the table, but I took it as he's been violated. You didn't ask permission if you can kiss me. I didn't think about it as a play on what Jesse said.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, it's a play on what Jessie said.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No wonder.

[Tamara Judge]

I just wonder why you see her

[Commercial Announcer]

breaking down

[Tamara Judge]

and then Mir takes her up to her room. So. Okay, that makes sense now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Because that was the kind of knockoff on what's been happening in the house between Jesse and West. And I could have done without seeing them run into each other with limp dick uniform.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. Oh, no.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I also didn't really. I feel like Jesse's doing the most

[Tamara Judge]

this season between him and Carl. Carl wants everybody to know he is single, ready to mingle. He's in his undies all the time. He's got no shirt on. He's got cut off jeans. And he's like, yeah, it's me, girls, come.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We also haven't even talked about the fact that Kyle and Amanda are getting along this episode.

[Tamara Judge]

This is the first episode they act like they liked each other. I was so happy. I'm getting a little like over the whole. I guess because we already know they split up. The Kyle and Amanda anti love story. I mean, it was nice to see him actually like, acknowledge each other's existence.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, they acknowledge each other's existence. Their costumes. They called each other hot or cute and yeah, whatever it may be. But then still when they went to bed that night, which I was surprised that Kyle did not go out with the other people. He stayed home.

[Tamara Judge]

Good for him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But he's. You see him go over and reach over, and he's like, Amanda something. And she's just like,

[Tamara Judge]

yeah. Ben heads to Dara's room to help

[Commercial Announcer]

her with her stuff.

[Tamara Judge]

Bailey calls Levi to update her that Ben is off the market, that he and Dara seem to be hitting it off. And Dara. Whatever her name is. Dara. Dara.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, it's. It reminds me of Dara. Remember that cartoon when we were younger? And it would be like, no, no, no. And it was darling Dara, and she was. Missed the volleyball every time.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, are you talking about Dora the Explorer?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, it was called Dara.

[Tamara Judge]

Dude, I haven't watched cartoons in decades. So I know Barney, and I know Dora the Explorer and Teletubbies. Okay, that's it. Teletubbies. All the rave back then in. In the 90s.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But if she's not in it, Ben and all, why. Why is she, like, having him in her room while she changes and, like, cuddling up with him? I thought that was weird.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe she was drunk. Blaming on the alcohol because she. She clearly likes kj.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I mean, we know now that she likes kj, but at this point, we didn't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think they have chemistry? Do you see the chemistry within them?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hold on. Before we get to the date, we have to talk about Jesse trying to talk to Sierra while they're cleaning up, but can tell she's upset. I mean, she. She doesn't leave any. When she's mad, she's mad. She's not gonna, like, give in a little, even a second.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, she's. She's the grudge holder.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She continues to pay Jesse. Dustin avoids giving him a hug. And as everyone leaves off, like, she runs up, gives hugs, like, bye, bye, bye. And then she sees him. She just looked, like, turns her head.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Jesse should have had better words come out of his mouth. He wasn't defending himself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, he wasn't at all. KJ and Dara meet for a date. Do we like them together?

[Tamara Judge]

I think they're cute. Yeah, I think they're cute together. And I mean, she had. They have chemistry. I think at one point, KJ was like, are you into Ben? She's like, no. No chemistry. No. Yeah, nothing. And he was like, oh, thank God. Finally, somebody doesn't like that Aussie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But you can kind of see this, like, cute little smile that he makes when he realizes that she likes him. But then we had to remember, aren't KJ and West, weren't they the close ones coming in the season?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, KJ's new to this group, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, but I think west is who brought him in.

[Tamara Judge]

Wes doesn't give a shit. He brought his ex girlfriend of six months to a dating thing. He's like, here, guys, boner. Like, it's not like he's like, oh, I'm gonna get jealous over this, or this is breaking boycode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So clearly. I mean, he's. If we talk about two relationships that west have been in, he cares about Sierra.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, he should have thought about that when he was jerking her around a couple seasons ago.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's true.

[Tamara Judge]

He should have thought about that. I mean, she's a catch.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She is a catch. And I think a big part of the conversation that they keep having is Sarah just saying, like, I'm. How can people that I'm so close with look at me like I'm some sort of a toy in the mirror?

[Tamara Judge]

I would like to play with her.

[Commercial Announcer]

She's just so stunningly beautiful.

[Tamara Judge]

And she's half dressed. She's like, got a beautiful body and she's around all these horny dudes. Sarah, you would make a gay guy straight. You are so beautiful. And I'm not saying she has to change the way she acts or dresses or talks or whatever. Just know that everybody, boys and girls, are gonna look at you that way.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, it's not a horrible thing. Not at all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But then when Jesse finally tries to talk to her in her room, because, I mean, where else would they have a conversation?

[Tamara Judge]

Of course in the bedroom.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love that he's like, where should we talk? The bedroom. Jesse apologizes for making Sarah feel like an object by saying he wants to make out with her as a joke.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

This really annoys me because I don't understand where there was a joke part of it.

[Tamara Judge]

See, that's the part that I missed. Maybe it wasn't aired. I don't remember it being like a joke. I thought he was just coming off like, hey, dude, do you mind? I know you dated her. Do you mind if I make out with her?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And to me, it just made it look like Jesse's thinks something's going on with them and asked west permission to move on with her. I didn't see it as a bad

[Teddy Mellencamp]

thing, except it's like she's property.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, could you imagine, like, Jesse starting to go after Amanda and not saying anything to Kyle?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I think that's what's about to happen. What's coming up. Did you see the scenes for next week or whatever it is where they're making a joke about Amanda and Ben?

[Tamara Judge]

Ben. I see that. I see the chemistry the second he walked in the door.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And Amanda gets pissed. But I mean, overall I thought it was a good episode. I do think that I kind of just wish west would put on his big boy pants and like, make it work with Sierra.

[Tamara Judge]

Like he, he tries to play it too cool.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's in love with her.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Okay. I'm telling you, before you book that

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[Tamara Judge]

We got to see Carl's new soft bar. It's a big commercial building. We had to cost so much money to build out. I just think about cut fitness commercial and so much money. We learned that Kyle did not invest despite Kyle previously investing in lover boy. Now I think that we know that maybe Kyle is might be in some financial shambles because of lover boy and having to take out a loan. Do you think that he should have invested?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I think that this is why it's very tricky investing in your friends, businesses or loaning money or any of those things because it always comes back around and then you're the bad guy if you don't do the same. So I, you know, I think that, I think that also. 15,000. Yeah, it seems like a lot but if he could pull that together with one paid post.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's say that you don't believe in the business model. Are you going to invest in something? Because I think it was maybe Ben that was saying like, you know, bars make a lot of money. I'm saying this, bars make a lot of money on alcohol. So Ben was kind of like, well when you're doing a non alcoholic like

[Teddy Mellencamp]

that's, yeah, like you're really taking a gamble.

[Tamara Judge]

But he's like gamble?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm impressed by his, you know, drive towards this.

[Tamara Judge]

He should add some kind of THC element to the drink. Some Sersa Venus, thc, some seltzers with THC or something. For the people that maybe don't drink alcohol, but are California sober.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's going to be hard and I think that they're spending a lot of money.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, he's got a lot of investors, probably a lot of loans.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who did he say on the cast already paid him the 15,000? Didn't he say somebody did?

[Tamara Judge]

He said west invested.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, west invested.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I don't know. When you're doing that for a friend, I feel like it's more. Don't expect too much out of it. Just you're giving them, you're helping them.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. You're just helping them out. Yeah. And you have to expect you're never getting that money back. You're never seeing it again.

[Tamara Judge]

So on the drive and KJ tells the boys that he's been hanging out with Dara and he actually left her house this morning.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

So things are, things are going quickly with these two. We saw them at a dating night out. Now they are spending the night with each other.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, they had a date and then the next day she came over, they cooked together and then he spent the night. So they are, I mean, they're for somebody who doesn't know how to flirt. He clearly he's not doing a bad job. He's. He's getting it done.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe she likes that. A guy that doesn't like flirt and all that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh my gosh. What about Bailey trying to flirt with West?

[Tamara Judge]

Bailey, you're just missing the mark. Every time you open your mouth, you

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just kind of miss the mark.

[Tamara Judge]

Sorry, am I flirting? Am I doing. If you have to ask, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, because. But it was like so forward and Wes just looked like in complete shock. Like, what's happening here? He didn't even for a second seem even like he didn't even like bat an eye at it. He was just like, okay, you know, whatever. And then they're like, maybe you should go for the medieval times guys.

[Tamara Judge]

The guy making turkey legs. You know that 60 year old guy over there? Yeah, go for him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Go for him. Maybe he'll like what you're putting out. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh my God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. But I mean, I thought it was a good episode. Who is your favorite newbie? Because we've got Mia, we've got kj, we've got Dara, and we've got Ben, Levi and Bailey. Oh my God.

[Tamara Judge]

There's so many. I like KJ and I like Dara. I mean, I like them all. I don't have a problem with any of them, but I just. They're just so cute together. And I want to see a summer house romance.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We don't see much of Levi.

[Tamara Judge]

No, we don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We don't see much of her. But I mean, I. Yeah, I think they're all great. I thought they were great additions. I think they're, like, all fitting in smoothly. And I think there's going to be some. Some drama coming up with this makeout controversy.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't wait.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I can't wait either.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, guys, until next week, thanks for tuning in for another episode of two T's in a Pod.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Thank you.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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