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Tamra Judge
Hey, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. We are.
Jennifer Tilly
Hello.
Tamra Judge
Hello. Hello. How are you?
Garcelle Beauvais
I'm good. How are you?
Tamra Judge
I want to know how many bottles of wine you have in that cellar behind you.
Garcelle Beauvais
I have the. That goes all the way down. I have two refrigerators on each side, filled. Come over.
Tamra Judge
I want to come over.
Garcelle Beauvais
Come, Come over.
Tamra Judge
You're giving Shamia a run for her money.
Garcelle Beauvais
Paul would love to hear that.
Tamra Judge
Oh, my goodness.
Garcelle Beauvais
For my birthday.
Tamra Judge
Four stories, right? You have an elevator in your house?
Garcelle Beauvais
Yes. Can we.
Tamra Judge
And Eddie are coming.
Garcelle Beauvais
That I use for each. Please come. I use for each floor. Cause I'm a lazy fucker. I did go to the gym. Teddy's got Me going to the gym.
Tamra Judge
Aw, I'm so mad at her for that. No, you'll be happy.
Garcelle Beauvais
I know.
Tamra Judge
Did you used to own a gym?
Garcelle Beauvais
Couple of them. Gold's Gym and Teterboro. Yeah. Powerhouse Gym. Yeah.
Tamra Judge
Was that with Frank or just. Oh, my. I remember those days. See, we have a lot in common here.
Garcelle Beauvais
Yes, we do.
Tamra Judge
Other than our big ass mouths.
Garcelle Beauvais
But this is so much Tamara. Thank you. Because I enjoy, I look forward to this. I really enjoy. And I'm, I'm looking. I never even did this with my show. Like, I'm looking at the comments and somebody said that the back of me was distracting. So I'm going to change this up. Probably next time that we talk. I won't have the wine in the back because they're like too much wine. I'm like, okay, everyone to be happy.
Tamra Judge
Just know that nobody's ever happy. They don't like the way I say certain words. And I get it. Interesting. Interesting. I don't even know what the correct way of saying it is. Like, I'm not. I've never claimed to be a scholar. I was lucky. I made it out of high school. Three months pregnant.
Garcelle Beauvais
I'm like, actually reading the comments. I haven't done that in eight years now.
Tamra Judge
I don't.
Garcelle Beauvais
On the show, I'm like, yep.
Tamra Judge
I don't read.
Garcelle Beauvais
This is cute.
Tamra Judge
My assistant reads them and he'll tell me the most important ones, but other than that, I'm like, I can't. You can't handle it. It's not good. Especially if you're not in a good mental place. Like you're sad or something. You go read them. You want to jump off a cliff.
Garcelle Beauvais
Yeah. No, if you're, if there's a breach in the integrity of your mental state, you're, You're.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. No, no. Like somebody sent me, a really nice fan, sent me like this video of an ex housewife on our show. That's very mean. Just ripping apart my physical appearance and all this stuff and, and saying all these things. And she.
Garcelle Beauvais
I wouldn't rip apart. I mean, there's not much. Who could say.
Tamra Judge
I, I'm a 57 year old woman. I get it. I'm getting old, you know, whatever it is what it is.
Garcelle Beauvais
I did say, see that? I saw that. Know who you're talking about, actually.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, yeah, whatever. So I'm like, okay, whatever. And so she sent it to me. I didn't read it or listen to it or whatever it was, but I had heard about it from somebody else and so after talking to her, I go, yeah, I really care what, you know, she has to say. She's not a very kind person, and it's not really good to go after people's looks and stuff. And. And she goes, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have sent that to you. I go, it's cool. But in. In the future, like, if somebody's, like, saying nasty things, do you want it? Do you? I purposely don't read comments for that reason.
Garcelle Beauvais
Do I? You could send it, but I don't get it much. I haven't. I don't know if people just don't send it to me or it's not.
Tamra Judge
There, but people don't say bad things about you.
Garcelle Beauvais
Everyone says something bad about somebody, but I wouldn't mind, because you want to know why? I want to know who to be nice to. Like, I want to make sure. Because I'm always building everyone up, and I don't want to do that anymore. I don't want to be nice to people that don't deserve me to be nice to them. But it's probably better. I don't know.
Tamra Judge
Well, do you know who got revved up? That's Jen Fessler. Jen Fessler did a. I don't know if it was a TikTok or something on Instagram.
Garcelle Beauvais
She did a story.
Tamra Judge
She did a story about Bethenny Frankel basically saying that you go on. That she was targeting Jersey.
Garcelle Beauvais
Jersey saying that you go on. Well, you have no money if you're kind of like, on and trash dumpster fire of a show. Yes, she's actually, to me, dumpster fire. But I. I mean, she's a broken girl. She's a very broken person. I remember 14 years ago when this all started. I went to a party with the other girls. It was like season one, and she was, like, standing in a doorway. And I don't remember her because she's rememberable. I remember her because I'm an empath and I felt a shit energy from her.
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
Garcelle Beauvais
So that's how she's pretty much known across the board. But, you know, to knock the same platform, that made her. It made her.
Tamra Judge
I agree. I agree.
Garcelle Beauvais
And she talks about old, old shows. If it's so shit, stop talking about it.
Tamra Judge
I feel like she wants to be like the Howard Stern of Housewives, you know, on Instagram, she wants to be like the shock jock that says things. And. And a lot of times she does say some very interesting, interesting, interesting. How is it interesting?
Garcelle Beauvais
Don't Worry. You just talk the way you want.
Tamra Judge
Things on, you know, on Instagram. But then sometimes it's like, we don't need to be that mean. We really don't.
Garcelle Beauvais
She, like, overdoes it. Like, I saw. I was watching Shark Tank one time, and she tanked on Shark Tank. She was there and she was like. She tries to say something. You ever see someone who's just not cool, but they say something and they think it's really funny? And then they look around, they always laughing, like she's like. And then like, oh, I said something funny. Like, it's just like, yeah.
Tamra Judge
I think that she was going after Theresa in her situation. And what I feel with that, it. You don't do that because karma's a bitch. And you don't know when something like that might possibly happen to you in a different form or whatever, or hardship might come your way. Like, when it comes to financial hardship, that's one thing. Like, probably not a great thing to go after somebody about.
Garcelle Beauvais
Well, listen, if that's what she feels that she needs to do, I mean, I've never met her. I don't. I wouldn't even nothing her. I nothing her. But it wasn't nice what she said about Jersey.
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
Garcelle Beauvais
And I'm glad Jen Fessler spoke about it, but that person just does not shut up. And she tries. I feel like she tries so hard. And she wouldn't have one day in her on Jersey. Not one day. I've seen her fall apart and cry and unravel on New York Housewives for little to nothing. So don't. Don't talk about something you could never handle.
Tamra Judge
Well, not to mention, after she sold her business for over, I don't know how many millions it was, she went back to Beverly Hills.
Garcelle Beauvais
She went back.
Tamra Judge
She went back to New York. Went back, she went back. So that philosophy doesn't really.
Garcelle Beauvais
You know what? I'm not going to give it light because she. She dies for attention. So that's what I see when I look at her.
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
Garcelle Beauvais
I feel kind of pity her.
Tamra Judge
So she's like, make your money on the show. Get your platform. Do something and leave.
Garcelle Beauvais
Okay, I. I can't even talk. I mean, there's so many things I could pick apart.
Tamra Judge
Oh, my God. Okay, let's get into episode 17. It seems like this has been the number for every housewife show recently. Before it used to be someone have a 23, some would have 16. Some people. You guys had short seasons, right. You only had 14 or something.
Garcelle Beauvais
15, 14, 18. With the three part reunion.
Tamra Judge
Back in the day we'd have like 23 and then whatever. But now 17 seems to be the cap. And Beverly Hills has come up to their season finale. Didn't feel like a season finale. Didn't to me. Now there's a new trend of ending the season on a trip. And they did throw in some aftermath of the trip. This. The episode was 118 minutes, so it was a super sized episode.
Garcelle Beauvais
And I thought it just felt long because not a lot was going on.
Tamra Judge
Well, that too. Well, I did notice when they're on the boat, it kind of took off where it left off last episode. We're sitting there by herself in a little corner with her hat on. And then what was it? Jennifer brought her water or vodka or something.
Garcelle Beauvais
I saw. That's how it started.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, yeah. And then they pan out and there looks to be like there's sharks in the water. I don't know if you picked up. I go, are those sharks or dolphins? The next thing you see, the girls are jumping in the water. And I'm like, no, I didn't see that.
Garcelle Beauvais
But a shark will stay on the top of the water and go, you know this, you're from California. And then a dolphin goes up the fin, comes up and down.
Tamra Judge
This was just a couple of them just swimming in the water. But I'm like, they're swimming with the sharks.
Garcelle Beauvais
They're swimming with the sharks.
Tamra Judge
They were swimming with the sharks and they were in the boat with some of the sharks.
Garcelle Beauvais
Not the sharks in the water you got to worry about.
Tamra Judge
Right.
Garcelle Beauvais
The ones on the boat.
Tamra Judge
Just ask Sutton. She didn't have a good time.
Garcelle Beauvais
You know, honestly, Sutton, are we all going to gang up on. Not that it's not deserved, Sutton.
Tamra Judge
Well, I think.
Garcelle Beauvais
Is that even a fair fight?
Tamra Judge
Historically speaking, Sutton does poke at people and say things and goes after. And then when it comes back to her, she doesn't. She's not really equipped to handle it.
Garcelle Beauvais
That's what I'm saying. Is that even a fair fight? Is that even an exciting fight?
Tamra Judge
See, that's the people I don't want to fight with is the people that's not on even fighting.
Garcelle Beauvais
You know what I mean? Like, you know, there's so much. Even though it wasn't like very eventful, there's a lot to talk about.
Tamra Judge
Right. So Jennifer says. So it starts out where Jennifer says she's never known Sutton to hit people when they are at their lowest. She's confused.
Garcelle Beauvais
And so we know her to be that way. Maybe Jennifer hasn't watched the show. If I had to bet Jennifer hasn't watched much.
Tamra Judge
But don't you agree there is a different type of person filming a show? You have a friendship on the show and a friendship off of the show. We are paid to give our opinions and say things that maybe in normal life probably wouldn't say.
Garcelle Beauvais
Oh, yeah, of course. Yes, that's true.
Tamra Judge
So Jennifer's never seen this side of Sutton.
Garcelle Beauvais
Maybe then she didn't watch the show.
Tamra Judge
Exactly. Exactly.
Garcelle Beauvais
It's a simple answer. You know, Jennifer, I don't think is very familiar. Maybe she's watching the Simpsons, but she's not watching Beverly Hills. If she thinks that Sutton doesn't hasn't, you know, said what she had to say. Listen, I'm going to just say this. If Sutton didn't do those things, would she have lasted? Would she have been on the show as long as she is? And if she didn't do those things, who would?
Tamra Judge
Sutton has. You know, I don't know what Sutton's future. Yeah, Lisa Run is good, but I don't know what Sutton's future is on the show. But Sutton has this quirkiness about her. She has this unawareness about her. And I think that having different personalities, you can't just have all the same type of people.
Garcelle Beauvais
And I know you need a dynamic that kind of goes together like any show, like any friend group.
Tamra Judge
Yes, I did enjoy seeing Sutton with her mom this season. And, you know, her kind of like us understanding her vulnerability. Yes, yes.
Garcelle Beauvais
Because that relationship spoke volumes to me about Sutton, and I felt bad for her.
Tamra Judge
You know, I did, too. I did, too. Now Garcelle brings to Sutton's attention that Kyle did not stand up for her. Sutton gets emotional and says, they've been wanting to break me for years, referring to Erica, Rinna, Kyle, Dorit. I don't think you are a victim, Sutton. I really don't. Sutton acts like the ladies come after her for absolutely no reason at all, but she's always the one doing the poking. So if you're doing her job right, and I don't mind that, but don't act like you're a. You're. You're innocent in all this. You guys are all playing a role in this.
Garcelle Beauvais
If you're the only one bringing up something that other people don't want to, you're going to look like the bad guy.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. Hello. It's me. It's me over here. It's me over here.
Garcelle Beauvais
How does it feel? Does it like. No, but talk to me. For a minute. Like, am I. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, she's the one that addresses. Is the first one to always address the pink elephant. Seems to me that she's most of the time, not 100% of the time, you know, the one to bring up stuff. Because she's kind of quirky, right?
Tamra Judge
Yes.
Garcelle Beauvais
And she could, like, do it, and she doesn't mind doing it. But does that mean we have to kill her for it? Because we also have to remember.
Tamra Judge
But it comes.
Garcelle Beauvais
Something that's out if you bring it up.
Tamra Judge
Something that's out. And I am the queen of doing that. There is a price to pay. There is a price to pay for that. Especially if somebody doesn't want to admit to it or, you know, they want to brush it under the rug. Like, I get it. It's happened to me. I've done it to other people. It's. It's part of the show.
Garcelle Beauvais
You can't get mad at someone and you can't really hate them for bringing out what you know somebody has to do.
Tamra Judge
Right.
Garcelle Beauvais
Would it be nice to get the call and say, listen, producers are. But what. They're asking me to bring this out. It's in the press, you know, I got to do it. How do you want to handle this? Because this is going to. I'm bringing it up whether you like it or not.
Tamra Judge
Well, it's usually somebody that's not close to you that's going to bring it up.
Garcelle Beauvais
Well, that's where the defense comes in.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. So, you know, nobody wants. If you're going through shit, nobody wants to have it on the show. But you know what? That's part of being on the show.
Garcelle Beauvais
You know what you sign up for and, you know what's expected of you.
Tamra Judge
And I think that it's not for everybody.
Garcelle Beauvais
That's why everyone can't do this.
Tamra Judge
Yes. And I think that's where Garcelle keeps poking at Kyle about the Morgan thing. Like, we see you're at the concert. We see you here, we see you doing this.
Garcelle Beauvais
It always flat, though.
Tamra Judge
Well, because like I said before, I don't think Morgan wants to be talked about. So she's trying to respect her feelings. But then the girls want. They keep digging and digging and digging. And Kyle, she just, you know, she's like Wonder Woman. She's like, bing, bing, bing. Like, nope, nothing. You ain't gonna hurt me with that. You're not gonna hurt me with that. So, I don't know. I mean, we saw the trailer. Andy brings it up.
Garcelle Beauvais
Oh, I didn't see the trailer. I didn't look.
Tamra Judge
The trailer looks great. Now Garcelle yesterday announced that she quit the show.
Garcelle Beauvais
Why?
Tamra Judge
Well, then we find.
Garcelle Beauvais
I'm not buying the reason.
Tamra Judge
But yeah, we don't know yet. I thought that she did it in a very professional, respectful way. Andy responded and said, you always have a place, you know, and all this stuff. Which was nice. Yes. And she was very kind and thanked everybody. But then hours later, or I don't even know if it was hours, the trailer dropped and we see her walking off the stage and I think she dropped some f bombs about her castmates and refused to take the cast picture at the end.
Garcelle Beauvais
Well, they must have hit a nerve.
Tamra Judge
Yes, they did.
Garcelle Beauvais
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Tamra Judge
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Garcelle Beauvais
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Tamra Judge
No. No leaks. No leaks.
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Tamra Judge
So the girls get ready for the night, and Sutton is not there. Jennifer says Sutton felt like everyone was attacking her and how it would. How it felt like she would. It was kind of coordinated. Like, the girls got together and was like, okay, let's go after Sutton. I didn't feel that way.
Garcelle Beauvais
I didn't feel that way either. No, I. No, but it was that. I'm not big deal. It wasn't premeditated.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, I don't think it was. I think it's just a situation where Sutton has said a lot of things and poked a lot of people. And it just kind of like. Well, you can't play victim if you're poking.
Garcelle Beauvais
And it's also the finale, and everybody's got to weigh in because it's getting close to whether or not you're going to get asked back, and they want to know what you did this year.
Tamra Judge
So everybody. Everybody hypes up on this episode. Yes.
Garcelle Beauvais
So you got to really like you better if you didn't say anything. And you better get mad. Like, I think Eric is getting overly mad about, you know, Jennifer Tilly saying it felt coordinated. Jennifer didn't come in and say, you fucking. Like we talk. You fucking. People got together and knew you were going to come after Sutton. That's not what she said. It's not how she said it. They asked for Sutton. She clearly said she feels or I feel. It was a coordinated effort to go after her.
Tamra Judge
Yep.
Garcelle Beauvais
So now Eric is, like, dragging that out for the rest of the episode.
Tamra Judge
So Dorit says Sutton becomes a victim in borderline evil when you put a mirror in front of her face. So Dorit's on fire this season. She really is. I don't agree with a lot of things she's doing, but I will tell you one thing, she is entertaining.
Garcelle Beauvais
Yeah, well, she. She is. And she's fed up. She's just fed up. She's like, I don't have to be anybody's bitch anymore.
Tamra Judge
Well, we lost Rena. So it's like Rena's the one that was, like, doing a lot of the work and poking and bringing things up.
Garcelle Beauvais
How did Rena and Dorit get along? I don't really remember.
Tamra Judge
So. So Rena and Erica were close.
Garcelle Beauvais
That I know.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. So I don't know. You know, With Dorit. I think eventually they all became, you know, the Fox Force Five. And they were all on group text messages, and they were all like a little girl club. But I don't know, like, as of now, where that all stands. But. Well, then Garcelle points out that Kyle. Then Garcelle points at Kyle and says she would, like, blind loyalty from her. Kyle says, this was Erica's argument and not my fault. Like, why is it her fault now? Like, f. That. Like, why?
Garcelle Beauvais
I kind of felt that, too. And the whole theory that. That Garcelle's like, well, she likes you more, so she wants more from you.
Tamra Judge
What.
Garcelle Beauvais
What the fuck does that mean?
Tamra Judge
That was a bunch of bullshit as far as I'm concerned. I feel like Garcelle wants to go after Kyle every chance she can. And now she's like, well, I see that Sutton and Kyle are getting close, and Sutton's my friend, so now I'm going to be like, you know, she didn't stick up for you. And I'm like, oh, God, are we really going there?
Garcelle Beauvais
What I feel like is Garcelle picked the wrong team. She picked Sutton.
Tamra Judge
Yep.
Garcelle Beauvais
Sutton's a weak link. Sutton didn't come and help Garcelle ever in a fight. Did anybody see that? Did she back up Garcelle at the table? But.
Tamra Judge
But did Garcelle stick up for Sutton?
Garcelle Beauvais
Not really. No.
Tamra Judge
Not the way I.
Garcelle Beauvais
Not the way that I do or we do on a. Yeah, but.
Tamra Judge
So why she's. Why she making it all about Kyle? Like, it's Kyle's fault. Like, Kyle and Sutton haven't had the best relationship throughout the years, so why is it suddenly her job to stick up for Sutton? I don't know.
Garcelle Beauvais
It was just too much loyalty. For what? Honestly, it's like a little bit of a weird obsession with Kyle on both ends. Yeah, no, I fell with trying to, like, get her on something and then Sutton by, like, expecting her to be a friend from where? And even for a friend, everybody should fight their own battles.
Tamra Judge
I got the feeling in this episode that there wasn't a lot going on, and they knew it was a season finale, like you said, and everybody was just heightened to make good tv.
Garcelle Beauvais
That's how I feel.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, I feel the same way. So Kyle tells Sutton that Erica's issue is that Sutton goes after people and their lowest moments. Sutton asks multiple times, do you think that is true? It's so weird how Sutton will repeat the same thing over and over again. You know, like, name them, name them, name them, name them.
Garcelle Beauvais
Like Listen, you know, they brought cheers to editing. They brought a lot of old clips in for this video, this episode, because they needed it. But they were highlighting. Not the best thing.
Tamra Judge
Her behavior. Yes. And that her behavior, like you said, those flashbacks were never ending. I'm like, there was. There was like almost a whole episode of just flashbacks. There was a bad behavior.
Garcelle Beauvais
There was. Which wasn't great for Sutton's case at all. But you can't make up. They're not made up things. They happened.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. I think that Sutton's problem is that she surrounds herself with yes people. And sometimes I feel like people that have a lot of money, like, they want yes people. And Kyle was actually trying to be a real friend to Sutton by being honest, but she doesn't want honesty.
Garcelle Beauvais
The other thing, money or not. Like, people that wind up with just the yes people around them are typically the people that never self evolve because they get rid of all the people that are telling them the truth. All the real friends eventually dissipate because they only keep the backstabbers that are telling them yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. For ulterior motives.
Tamra Judge
Yes. See, I'm the type of person, I want a good friend to be able to tell me what I'm doing wrong or, you know. Yeah. That wasn't cool to. I'm like, you shouldn't have done that. Like, I want those type of people.
Garcelle Beauvais
Not everyone. Not everyone does. I do.
Tamra Judge
I know, but I feel like I've had some friends that were like, true, 100% narcissist. And if you disagreed with them at any moment, it's like, how dare you? I'm going to cut you off. Like, those are the people. And I think that mentality.
Garcelle Beauvais
But that's good to get rid of those people.
Tamra Judge
I know that now. But it's like, back then, I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna tell her, you know, what she wants to hear. So that way, you know, I don't get. She doesn't get mad at me, though. Now I've learned, like, those are not the type of friends you want, but.
Garcelle Beauvais
Those are the type of friends that have people around them.
Tamra Judge
Yep.
Garcelle Beauvais
That are not good to be around.
Tamra Judge
Yes.
Garcelle Beauvais
Like, they're. They're detrimental.
Tamra Judge
Yep.
Garcelle Beauvais
Like, the people that keep the yes people around. The yes people are going to get you out because they don't want the person telling the truth to be around. Because then they're there. Whatever ulterior motive is there. If you're out, it's easier for them.
Tamra Judge
Yep. So then we go to dinner. Kathy comes back in a new outfit. At dinner, she says she tinkled in her shorts. So she. She tinkled, piddled, whatever she did in her shorts. And Bose is just like, do you really. What is wrong with you people? Why do you have to tell us.
Garcelle Beauvais
Everything's going on is about right now ready to go back to Uber?
Tamra Judge
She's like, no, I'm going. I'm gonna go work for Pepsi again. I'm gonna go do whatever. I'm gonna go on Netflix.
Garcelle Beauvais
You see her on Jimmy Fallon. He loves her.
Tamra Judge
I know.
Garcelle Beauvais
And then they hung out after.
Tamra Judge
He's a big deal.
Garcelle Beauvais
I didn't realize she, you know, that's intimidating to somebody else on the show who thought that maybe they were above a lot of things. And then here comes big energy bows walking through, and it's hard to be around that. I mean, even a distant housewife, I'm like, okay, Bose, you know, like, has Bethany mentioned her at all? I don't think.
Tamra Judge
Oh. Oh, I don't.
Garcelle Beauvais
I'd love to see that.
Tamra Judge
Go ahead, Beth. Go after her. Yeah, go after Boaz. Let's see how that ends up. No, she's too smart. She's, you know, good with her words, and she's well liked.
Garcelle Beauvais
She's being received everywhere. And she's also being acknowledged for her accolades. And I'm saying, like, you know, that might bother some other people.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, I mean, very few housewives have been invited to Jimmy Fallon.
Garcelle Beauvais
I know.
Tamra Judge
Weren't you on Jimmy Fallon?
Garcelle Beauvais
Yes, yes. But I was, you know, wasn't a personal. It was like a Trader win, and. Which was great. And I was so happy to be it, but. And Dorinda was on for Traders, but this is. You know, he really likes her. He really looked like. He's like, I want to talk about this. And the crowd went crazy and. Yeah. So.
Tamra Judge
Well, I think with her, like, you know, she's extremely intelligent and you can talk about her. Talk. Talk to her about other things than housewives. Like, she's got a big opinion about.
Garcelle Beauvais
A lot of things, and she does. And. But she also has acknowledged where she wasn't always right here. Yeah, she did. That's enough for me.
Tamra Judge
Did you happen to catch her and Erica on Watch what Happens Live last night?
Garcelle Beauvais
I did.
Tamra Judge
It was pretty good. It was pretty good.
Garcelle Beauvais
But I don't think they. They really. Although Erica ended it with. I wished Garcelle would have stuck it out. Yeah, she ended it with that. But they didn't really. I don't know. I don't Know how sincere that was.
Tamra Judge
Right? But doesn't that. Well, she also started with I have been shady or snarky or something like that. So maybe she's like, well, I better, like, you know, back. Dial it back a little bit and give her some flowers. But I think that, like, something went down. Something went down. There's more to this. We won't know until.
Garcelle Beauvais
I mean, if I ever wanted a leak, it's now.
Tamra Judge
So there was a leak, but we don't know if it's true, so we're gonna have to, you know, stay tuned. Yeah, I didn't see it either. So after the dinner, Kyle Garcelle and Jennifer sit down to talk about Sutton. Garcelle says in Sutton's story, Kyle is the hero, which is why she wants her to save the day. Kyle doesn't get why she's being singled out. Do you think?
Garcelle Beauvais
I don't either.
Tamra Judge
I don't get it either. Do you think it. That Garcelle's right, that Kyle is always the hero in Sutton's version of events? I.
Garcelle Beauvais
How.
Tamra Judge
I don't see it either. I don't know how. I don't.
Garcelle Beauvais
I don't see it.
Tamra Judge
I don't know. Then Sutton tells Bose that Erica's showing animosity. Came out of nowhere. Bo says that she has heard it before and thinks it's good Erica said it out loud. Why is Sutton so shocked about Erica's feelings? She has made comments to Sutton's face and Sutton being volatile. I don't. I don't get it.
Garcelle Beauvais
Because maybe when Sutton does or says something, she's not doing it with bad intention, so she doesn't even realize it.
Tamra Judge
Well, I mean, maybe, but she had no problem going after Erica when she was at the.
Garcelle Beauvais
I saw that.
Tamra Judge
I mean, put yourself in that mental state. You lost your husband, you're being sued for millions of dollars, possibility of going to jail, and you're filming a reality show like this.
Garcelle Beauvais
I mean, I. I reference this a lot at this show because talk about coming back from what they did to her at that table and not even holding anybody accountable until now. She's. She. She held it in her pocket.
Tamra Judge
She.
Garcelle Beauvais
You know, you got to keep moving. You got to keep swimming. She got over it. She should have fucking in New Jersey. The table would have been flipped over and a fork would have been in someone's eye, but, you know, there. She took it. She moved on from it. She didn't say to anybody, how dare you? That we know of. And she moved on. But she. She held it in her back pocket for now. Hey, Sutton, remember when you fucking shoved it up my ass when I was bend over, bitch. That it's. It's the day of reckoning. It is the day of reckoning. So, yeah, I mean, it's the way to do it.
Tamra Judge
Mm.
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Tamra Judge
Now Sutton is scrambling and she says that Kyle and Dorit's husbands made fun of Erica. She thinks it's a triple standard with these women. Sutton had to had a come to Jesus moment.
Garcelle Beauvais
They so what if the husband's made fun? So what?
Tamra Judge
I don't even remember that. What do they make fun of?
Garcelle Beauvais
The fact that they keep things in their pocket and they keep I'll forget this conversation as soon as I close my lap laptop. I don't know how people remember things. Hold it. Like Erica's different. That was a whole thing. But like something stupid like that clip. Like people on my show. I hate, hate hate that when they.
Tamra Judge
Hold on to things from years ago.
Garcelle Beauvais
They'Ll be like use it. Instead of just saying okay, I'm wrong. They're like, what about when you said this little thing in the corner of this little party and this little thing? Or remember when you tried to borrow my earrings but then you said you didn't like my outfit.
Tamra Judge
Like what?
Garcelle Beauvais
I know you're reaching.
Tamra Judge
You're like housewives. Say what? I know. I find my memory's not great a lot of times when filming, because I feel like you're hit with so many different things. I got to the point where I just kind of take notes after each scene so I can remember myself, because, you know, it always gets brought up and I'm like, over it in two seconds.
Garcelle Beauvais
See, that's the thing. I think if you are a inherently manipulative or a person who thinks they're always trying to have the last word or get over that, you will always look for something anywhere you can. I cannot live like that. That is not my way. And actually, I. I don't like it.
Tamra Judge
No, no. They always say successful people are moving forward, not backwards. Okay, so now Sutton made this comment about the ladies wish they had my life to Bose. And Bose just went, oh, God, Really? Just say that. I mean, Sutton has to be the most un. Self aware person I've ever met in my life.
Garcelle Beauvais
But that's been said on my show.
Tamra Judge
You wish you had my life.
Garcelle Beauvais
Yeah. And I mean, the people that say that are. I mean, really. I don't know.
Tamra Judge
I don't narcissistic thing to say.
Garcelle Beauvais
I think it's a cover for something because what else do they have? What else is there?
Tamra Judge
Yeah, it's.
Garcelle Beauvais
I mean, what else do you have to offer? Oh, my money. You wish you had my money? Well, money doesn't give you life.
Tamra Judge
Money doesn't give you happiness. But didn't Dorit say something like, oh, no, Maybe it was on the reunion trailer. Something about, you live on a Main street? Like, oh, not a main Street. Oh, my God.
Garcelle Beauvais
I think there's a lot of self awareness. Unawareness here. Not self awareness. There's a lot of unawareness.
Tamra Judge
Unawareness. Yeah. So then Erica tells Dorit that what really made her angry was when Jennifer Tilly said it was coordinated. And so we. This got brought up again, and Erica seemed very offended by it. I. You know, I don't know. Or like, you're offended maybe. I think it's what you said earlier.
Garcelle Beauvais
I think it is. I think it is. Like, all right, that's one I'll hold on to. How can Jennifer Tilly offend anyone? I watched the same scene that Eric is talking about, and she spoke in her little voice like she wasn't, like, pointing fingers and she wasn't meaning anything bad. She was just explaining how she thinks her friend felt or how she felt. And yeah, I mean, I would be more offended at the ugly earrings that are saying.
Tamra Judge
Well, I will say, I will give props to Erica because she was trying to make something happen in the season finale.
Garcelle Beauvais
I'm an Erica fan, but I'm just saying, like, it was just.
Tamra Judge
She had not a lot to work with.
Garcelle Beauvais
True.
Tamra Judge
Not to work.
Garcelle Beauvais
Really did. And I think that they had all had enough. You know what it is, personally? They're all going through their own shit. Personally. Kyle's life is upside down. Dorit's life's upside down. About to be more upside down. You know, Sutton. Sutton's just Sutton and the rest of the. You know, who do you have. You have Kathy Hilton with her $10,000 worth of regimen on her face before she leaves. And then she brings an extra pair of panties for when she piddles in her pants.
Tamra Judge
Were they having dinner at the hotel? Because how did she just carry an extra outfit?
Garcelle Beauvais
I feel. I felt like she carried an extra outfit in her bag.
Tamra Judge
Maybe she should get. She's always got a monster with Depends or whatever.
Garcelle Beauvais
She's got a day. Lisa Rinna got like, a million dollars.
Tamra Judge
I know.
Garcelle Beauvais
A diaper. I'll wear a diaper on my head.
Tamra Judge
I'll wear it. Yes.
Garcelle Beauvais
For that.
Tamra Judge
I heard no pants on. I'll just show up to the red carpet with me, too.
Garcelle Beauvais
And a binky.
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
Garcelle Beauvais
So listen, I have to say that that was great, Kathy. Comedic relief, as we've enjoyed through the whole season. But not on, you know, nothing else going on. Like, that's the cherry on top, not the.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. Well, at dinner, Bozen had it. She's like, come on. She asked if they can talk about how each of them are going to be better in this group. She's like, better wives better. Yeah, wives, mothers, whatever. Yes. So Dorit tells Sutton she wants to continue to be open, transparent, honest, communicate, and move forward to have a real sisterhood. And I'm like, wanted to say bullshit. Do you really believe Dori wants to have a sisterhood with Sutton?
Garcelle Beauvais
There's nothing in common. See, the thing with Sutton is she doesn't have a lot in common with the other girls. I see her and Jennifer Tilly. I see. But again, Sutton carries her weight.
Tamra Judge
She does.
Garcelle Beauvais
She does. She. She holds her own. And, you know, if it wasn't for Jennifer Tilly checking on her on the boat, who was going to check on her?
Tamra Judge
No one. No one but Garcelle saying she's just.
Garcelle Beauvais
Going to sit outside, you know, and sunbathe.
Tamra Judge
I know. Well, this statement from Garcelle did not age well because Garcelle's saying she wants to build even stronger friendships in the group. Now, knowing that she stormed off the reunion and quit.
Garcelle Beauvais
I'm dying to know what that was about.
Tamra Judge
I know. And Garcelle saying, this is a toxic sisterhood. So then Erica brings up hearing about someone thinking she and Dorit planned what happened on the boat. She asked, who is saying it? I'm like, oh, my God, here we go again. Erica says, it's not.
Garcelle Beauvais
I wanted to say me whether I did it or not.
Tamra Judge
We did it. We did it.
Garcelle Beauvais
I did. Now what? What are you gonna do?
Tamra Judge
Well, why are these women always thinking someone is orchestrating a takedown?
Garcelle Beauvais
Premeditated. Because. Well, on my show it is. But anyway.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, well, I don't see that happening in Beverly Hills at all.
Garcelle Beauvais
I don't either. I don't. I mean, you can bet. Bet your ass, Tamara. It happens every episode in New Jersey.
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
Garcelle Beauvais
Do you miss us yet?
Tamra Judge
I actually do miss you guys. So I. I mean, it's part of being a housewife. Like, if something comes up and somebody says, like, tamara, I don't like when you do this. You can guarantee five other girls are gonna go, you know what? I don't like it either. Or, you shouldn't do. That's right. I mean, there's a fine line between talking to somebody and telling them something in a gang up. And the audience, they do not like a gang up. And I feel like most housewives know that. So even if somebody's wrong and they're doing shitty shit, if there's a gang up, the person doing the shitty shit is. Is the angel in the situation with the viewers.
Garcelle Beauvais
That's true.
Tamra Judge
Yep. So I think, like, Kyle's like, I'm not getting in on this. Like, then it's going to be like, you know, So I don't. It's hard. It's a balance, for sure.
Garcelle Beauvais
I mean, the one time Kyle did slightly speak up for her at the table, you would have thought, like, Sutton had an actual orgasm. It was like, clean up in aisle 10 that she slid off her seat. And, you know, the one time I noticed. Did I miss anything else?
Tamra Judge
No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
Garcelle Beauvais
They don't stick up. But I didn't see Sutton sticking up for Garcelle ever.
Tamra Judge
I mean, they've been like Siamese housewives since they've both been on the show. Like, they have. They really like everything. It's. It's them, too. Like, they've never really branched out.
Garcelle Beauvais
Bose is branching out. She started with Dorit, then she said, let me move over to this. And she even sat with Sutton. She tried with Sutton. I don't think it got very far when they were having the aphrodisiac chocolate. I want to know where to get that. You know, Bose is really. And I know how this feels, trying to bring the group together, and all of them, Sutton, Kai, like, everybody.
Erika Jayne
Yeah.
Tamra Judge
You've had a lot of. If anybody, you've had a lot of experience with that, trying to get people to stick together.
Garcelle Beauvais
So I see a lot of that. It's okay for them to fight. Like you said, no one loves a gang up. So why don't they just pick their fights, the one on one fights, and move on. Move on. But if it wasn't for Dory, the only thing that stands out all season is Dorit and Sutton fighting. I don't really have anything else to go on. Do you?
Tamra Judge
Nope. Not really. Not really. Well, then there is the end cards. Let's alternate reading these. I'll read the first one and we'll just.
Garcelle Beauvais
Oh, okay.
Tamra Judge
So the first one is Garcelle. Garcelle continues to call the shots on her suds, but her favorite role is grandma to Oliver's new daughter, Valli.
Garcelle Beauvais
Oh, we. You understand that, right? Yes, of course. Well, Boza started her fertility journey with Keely, choosing the natural route to start. And Keely finally gave Boaz what she's been waiting for. And I love you.
Kathy Hilton
Yay.
Tamra Judge
That makes me so happy. So I love that.
Garcelle Beauvais
And the natural route means they're just gonna. If it happens, it happens. I guess. Yeah.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. So Sutton Dorit's relationship remains on ice, but Sutton's relationship with Reba is warming up and better than ever.
Garcelle Beauvais
See, that's the pearl of these shows. Things happen that would have never happened. And I love. Don't you love when something like that happens? And it means so much to Sutton? And maybe with that, Sutton will come back. Maybe different.
Tamra Judge
Maybe. But I doubt it.
Garcelle Beauvais
Kyle and Mauricio continue their stalemate over the next steps, but Kyle remains open to love in her life while hopefully avoiding the paparazzi. It's time to move on. Yes. Be open for that. And so what about the paparazzi? You can't hide in a hole. So what?
Tamra Judge
Yeah, I mean, you live in la, they just happen to be there.
Garcelle Beauvais
You're a public figure. If it's not the paparazzi, it's going to be somebody with their phone. It's going to happen.
Tamra Judge
It happens. Dorit and PK currently have no plans to rekindle their relationship, but they are working on co parenting better. And Dorit is considering filtering PK's emails to her junk folder.
Garcelle Beauvais
Well, that's exciting. But let me let Dori in on a little something. When you're co parenting, you need to communicate, and that doesn't mean through email. He's not a violent man. I don't think there's any reason to only speak over email from what I see. So I think that they should try to open the lines of communication a little more to co parent.
Tamra Judge
Just saying. Now, there was no talk about any divorce filings with Kyle Mauricio, RPK and Dorit. So I'm just wondering, like, is that going to be coming soon? Is that next season?
Garcelle Beauvais
It took Paul 12 years, so I don't.
Tamra Judge
Well, yeah, I mean, I don't think this is la. People move on quickly.
Garcelle Beauvais
They do. They absolutely do. To be honest, I don't think. I mean, I. I'll bet you unless PK or Mauricio meets someone who forces their hand, I don't think they're gonna rush to do that, because the longer they wait, the longer they can hide their money.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, girls, you heard me and I said it. You said it. You said it. So then the show, we think it's ended, but. Oh, no, there's still five minutes left.
Garcelle Beauvais
And.
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
Garcelle Beauvais
Oh, it's a reason to bring up the cameras.
Tamra Judge
Right? So Kyle goes over to Erica's house. Erica says that she was doing so good before the verdict. Now the verdict is. Tom was convicted on four counts of wire fraud, which is 80 years in prison. So Kyle asked if she has closure. Erica says she knows him differently. So it fucks her up inside.
Garcelle Beauvais
I understand what she's saying.
Tamra Judge
Yep. So. But they deserve to have some fun. Erica's in. Card says Erica still hasn't spoken to Tom since the verdict. I didn't realize Erica didn't have one earlier with everybody else. But her career.
Garcelle Beauvais
I did. I was looking for it. I'm like, did I miss it?
Tamra Judge
I didn't even notice that. But her career continues to rise. She reprised the role of Roxy. Broadway.
Garcelle Beauvais
Yes.
Tamra Judge
And is booked to headline the Mighty Hoopla Festival in London this summer.
Garcelle Beauvais
I don't know her.
Tamra Judge
You know what that is? I don't know what that is. The Mighty Hoopla Festival. Paul.
Garcelle Beauvais
Paul, what is the Mighty Hoopla Festival in London? You don't know? Okay. I don't know. I figured he's from the U.K. yeah. Yeah. I'm going next week to Ireland, so we'll have to.
Tamra Judge
Oh, my God. How exciting.
Garcelle Beauvais
Yeah.
Tamra Judge
So congratulations to Eric.
Garcelle Beauvais
Congratulations. Eric has got a set of legs on her. She is built like a Barbie doll.
Tamra Judge
She really is. She really is. So she is booked and busy. That's what we like to hear. So I asked if you have fan thoughts and on my Instagram, and these are purely fan thoughts. Not mine, but it was. They felt like one of them was. They felt like it was rushed and it was kind of boring. Somebody said that Erica is mvp. Another one then says, I'm over Eric and Dorit. History. Revisionist history. Sad to see Garcelle go. And another one was, we could have just skipped the reunion and gone. I mean, skipped the season finale and just go straight to the reunion.
Garcelle Beauvais
All right, so everyone's on the same page. It's not always going to be a win. You can always, you know, but don't.
Tamra Judge
Every time agree that this season was one of those seasons where executives are going to sit back and go, we got to do something.
Garcelle Beauvais
I do. And that's a scary thing. But. No, but Tamara, you know, most of the time. And yes, you're right. Well, there's a spot open because Garcelle left. I hated to see her leave because, you know, she's been there five years. That's a long time. You don't. You don't last five years from doing nothing. People, like, liked her. There was something that kept her there, so whatever. But. Well, there's a spot open, so you never know the dynamic of somebody else coming in. Stirs up the pot.
Tamra Judge
I think there's going to be a few spots open.
Garcelle Beauvais
You do?
Tamra Judge
I do. I really do. I think something either. Either that or they need to add somebody or add more to the mix. Somebody that's, you know, like what Dorit did this year. But somebody like Lisa Rinna. I mean, if they can get Lisa Rena back, I think that that would be.
Garcelle Beauvais
Who would. Who would she fight with?
Tamra Judge
She's just a truth teller. She just goes in there and says it like it is. And, you know, in Beverly Hills, like, most shows have somebody like that, but in Beverly Hills, people get, you know, they get really offended. Like, you know, they're always, like, very profitable.
Garcelle Beauvais
So in Beverly Hills, they're not as, like, aggressive.
Tamra Judge
No, no.
Garcelle Beauvais
And they're not like fighters. Like, like, Erica sat at the table and she goes, I wasn't happy. I didn't receive that well, or whatever the words she said. So ladylike. I didn't receive how you said that. Well, it didn't sit right with me. Like I said, if somebody was really that pissed off on ours, you know, I don't have to tell you.
Tamra Judge
Right, right. And I think it would be a totally different show if Lisa Rena had said what Erica said in her way.
Garcelle Beauvais
Right, exactly. But we'll see.
Tamra Judge
We'll see.
Garcelle Beauvais
But we'll find out soon enough. I'm looking forward to the reunion.
Tamra Judge
I am very much looking forward to the reunion more than anything. I'm so excited. I don't know if it's a two parter, three parter. No, it's a three. I thought three. Okay. All right. So we still have three more weeks of Beverly Hills. So excited about that.
Garcelle Beauvais
Well, girls, you have a chance to redeem it. I know, but you're always as good as your last scene. I always say that.
Tamra Judge
And then our housewife shows are getting a little sparse. We've had so many, and now a lot of them have dropped off. And I don't think.
Garcelle Beauvais
Dubai, New Jersey. Who else?
Tamra Judge
New York.
Garcelle Beauvais
Why New York's not coming back.
Tamra Judge
No, no. I mean, they dropped off like we. They just ended. And now. And now we had, like, Salt Lake City. Like, now it's like, okay, we need.
Garcelle Beauvais
More shows now because I think Miami's coming this summer.
Tamra Judge
Miami's coming this summer.
Garcelle Beauvais
And they have a new girl.
Tamra Judge
I know we have Atlanta right now, which is really good. And I'm assuming Orange county will come out this summer, but we're going to be a little sparse on the Housewives shows for a little bit. That it's gonna be a little. But the Valley.
Garcelle Beauvais
Oh, the Valley.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, the Valley.
Garcelle Beauvais
And Summer House only has a couple episodes left.
Tamra Judge
Some of the Southern charm.
Garcelle Beauvais
We have Love Hotel.
Tamra Judge
Yes. Yes. I saw the trailer. Did you see the trailer?
Garcelle Beauvais
Yeah. Did you see Erica? She's like. That wouldn't be for me.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. Did we see Cynthia Bailey in the trailer of Love Hotel?
Garcelle Beauvais
No.
Tamra Judge
Yes, I think we did. Yes. She popped up.
Garcelle Beauvais
She's not cast or she's cameo or what? She showed up. She was just vacationing.
Tamra Judge
She's that housewife that just travels to different shows. I think that is an amazing job.
Garcelle Beauvais
I love that. Get. Sign me up. I'm.
Tamra Judge
Can you have some? Yeah. Orange County. I'm going to make that happen, Luke. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, guys, thanks for tuning in. And we will.
Garcelle Beauvais
Thank you.
Tamra Judge
We'll see you soon.
Garcelle Beauvais
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Episode Summary: "Garcelle’s Out (RHOBH Recap)" – Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Release Date: March 26, 2025
Introduction
In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge delve deep into the latest developments of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH). Titled "Garcelle’s Out (RHOBH Recap)", the episode offers a comprehensive analysis of the recent season finale, focusing on Garcelle Beauvais's departure from the show, the tumultuous dynamics among the housewives, and speculations on future seasons.
1. Garcelle Beauvais’s Departure
The episode kicks off with an engaging discussion about Garcelle Beauvais's unexpected exit from RHOBH.
Tamra Judge [19:15]: "Garcelle quit the show, but we don't know yet why. I thought she did it in a professional, respectful way."
Garcelle Beauvais [19:16]: "I did it in a professional and respectful manner, thanking everyone involved."
However, shortly after her announcement, footage emerges showing Garcelle storming off the stage, reportedly muttering expletives and refusing to take the cast photo—a stark contrast to her initial statement.
This contradictory behavior raises questions about the true reasons behind her departure, suggesting possible tensions off-camera.
2. The Sutton Stracke Saga
A significant portion of the episode centers around Sutton Stracke's ongoing conflicts within the group.
Teddi and Tamra dissect Sutton's pattern of initiating conflicts, questioning her self-awareness and the impact of her actions on group dynamics.
The hosts argue that Sutton's tendency to "poke at people in their lowest moments" has alienated her from the rest of the cast, making her a controversial figure within RHOBH.
3. Critique of Other Housewives
The discussion shifts to other notable housewives and their behaviors.
Jen Fessler’s Comments on Bethenny Frankel:
Tamra Judge [07:43]: "Jen Fessler did a story about Bethenny targeting Jersey."
Garcelle Beauvais [08:02]: "Bethenny is a dumpster fire, but she's a very broken person."
The hosts express sympathy for Bethenny Frankel while critiquing Jen Fessler's aggressive stance, suggesting it might stem from a need for attention.
Dorit Kemsley’s Behavior:
Tamra Judge [17:34]: "Dorit is on fire this season. She really is."
Garcelle Beauvais [26:34]: "Dorit is extremely entertaining."
While acknowledging Dorit’s entertaining presence, Teddi and Tamra also question some of her actions, balancing admiration with constructive criticism.
4. Season Finale Breakdown
The hosts provide a detailed analysis of the season finale, highlighting key events and their implications.
Boat Scene with Sharks:
Tamra Judge [12:31]: "The girls are jumping in the water with sharks in the boat."
Garcelle Beauvais [13:02]: "They're swimming with the sharks."
This dramatic scene serves as a metaphor for the heightened tensions and lurking conflicts among the cast.
Conflict Resolution Attempts:
Teddi and Tamra discuss attempts at mending relationships, such as conversations about building stronger friendships and sisterhood, yet skepticism remains about the sincerity of these efforts.
5. Speculations on Future Seasons
Looking ahead, the hosts speculate on potential changes and dynamics in future seasons.
Garcelle’s Departure:
Tamra Judge [58:05]: "I think there are going to be a few spots open."
Garcelle Beauvais [58:07]: "There’s a spot open, so you never know what the dynamic of somebody else coming in can stir up."
Potential New Cast Members:
The possibility of introducing strong, honest personalities like Lisa Rinna is discussed as a means to revitalize the show.
6. End Card Summaries
The episode concludes with updates on the housewives' lives post-season, highlighting personal achievements and ongoing storylines.
Garcelle Beauvais [52:03]: "Garcelle continues to call the shots on her soap, but her favorite role is grandma to Oliver's new daughter, Valli."
Olivia Palermo and Sutton Stracke:
Erica Girardi’s Career:
These personal updates provide listeners with a glimpse into the housewives' lives beyond the show, offering a sense of continuity and character development.
Conclusion
Two Ts In A Pod offers a nuanced and in-depth recap of the latest RHOBH season, blending humor with critical analysis. Teddi and Tamra navigate the complex web of relationships and conflicts, providing listeners with both entertainment and insightful commentary. The episode leaves listeners anticipating future developments, especially concerning Garcelle's departure and the evolving dynamics among the remaining housewives.
Notable Quotes:
Tamra Judge [07:43]: "Jen Fessler did a story about Bethenny targeting Jersey."
Garcelle Beauvais [15:12]: "If Sutton didn't do those things, would she have lasted on the show as long as she has?"
Tamra Judge [17:34]: "Dorit is on fire this season. She really is."
Garcelle Beauvais [26:34]: "Dorit is extremely entertaining."
Tamra Judge [58:05]: "I think there are going to be a few spots open."
Garcelle Beauvais [55:50]: "Erica reprised the role of Roxy on Broadway and is set to headline the Mighty Hoopla Festival in London this summer."
Key Takeaways:
Garcelle Beauvais's departure from RHOBH sparks curiosity and speculation about underlying tensions.
Sutton Stracke remains a polarizing figure, with her actions continuing to influence group dynamics.
The season finale's dramatic events underscore the volatile nature of reality TV relationships.
Future seasons may introduce new cast members to refresh the show's dynamic.
This detailed recap ensures that even listeners who missed the episode are well-informed about the latest happenings in the RHOBH universe, offering both entertainment and thoughtful analysis.