Gotta Love A Dad Bod (Southern Charm Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod – "Gotta Love A Dad Bod" (Southern Charm Recap)

Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge (with guest co-host Dolores Catania)
Release Date: February 12, 2026
Episode Focus: Southern Charm Season 11, Episode 11 recap, plus Bravo news, fan Q&A, and playful banter.

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Episode Overview

In this upbeat, candid episode, Tamra Judge and Dolores Catania (subbing for Teddi Mellencamp) dive into the latest Southern Charm drama, unpack Bravo headlines, and address fan questions about upcoming Housewives projects. The chemistry is lighthearted yet incisive, with plenty of inside jokes and honest realities about life in the Bravo universe. Dolores details her spiritual journey to Washington, D.C., the cast discusses the latest on Jill Zarin’s public fallout, and they break down the Southern Charm cast’s antics—especially the increasing chaos around secrets, relationships, and "dad bod" appeal.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dolores’ Spiritual Quest in D.C.

[03:34–07:24]

• Dolores’ blurred Zoom background: She’s in D.C. to witness monks completing a 2,300-mile walk for peace. ("I only blur the background because I hope that it could blur the lines on my face." – Dolores, 03:50)
• Solo adventure: Dolores went alone—“I could not let anybody ruin my peace.”
• Physical hardship of the monks: She’s deeply moved by their perseverance: “Their bodies are beat to shit...Most of their walk was barefoot.”
• No VIP access: Dolores tried (and failed) to get a press pass: “They said that they are full. So this is where we’re at.” (06:43)

2. Bravo Headlines

[07:28–13:04]

• Jill Zarin's firing from E!: Jill was axed from 'The Golden Life' after racially insensitive remarks about Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl performance. (“She it up in one week… So bye bye, Jill.” – Tamra, 07:36)
• Dolores’ take: Jill is probably “ripping her hair out because it was such a dumb thing to do.” (09:50)
• Family fallout: Allegations that Jill invited Bravo cameras to Bobby’s funeral resurface; family estrangement is discussed.
• Positive vibes: Shift to Broadway fun—Dolores attended ‘Juliet’ starring Kandi Burruss, praising Kandi and the Bravo community.

3. Rhode Island Housewives Q&A

[19:37–23:19]

• Dolores on cameo appearances: She was invited by Liz McGraw, a cannabis entrepreneur, but stresses she’s not heavily featured: "You won’t see a lot of me."
• Comparing franchises: Filming Rhode Island is “starting fresh”—no bad blood, different feel than Jersey.
• Would she buy property there? "100%. If Paul wants to buy me something like a wedding gift, I’d love a house there." (21:20)
• Breakout star predictions: Dolores can’t pick, but notes Liz has a big personality.
• Cultural overlap: Many Jersey types would fit in Rhode Island; there’s “an innocence about them that we’re all gonna love.” (22:59)

4. Southern Charm Season 11, Episode 11 Recap

[23:19–44:44]

• Itchy Grass Ranch dinner party:
  • Secrets everywhere: “No one keeps a secret here.” (23:43)
  • Madison’s loose lips: “We don’t do that in New Jersey. We do not repeat what a friend says to us.” (23:55 – Dolores)
  • Shep’s relationship advice mocked: “After last year, I don’t think that Shep should give any advice…cheesy text messages and give them shark tooth necklaces.” (24:07–24:23)
• Craig, Sally, and gaslighting:
  • Craig is accused of gaslighting; the hosts debate whether Sally exaggerated Craig’s words.
  • "Just own it": “You can switch it around with the truth, bro…Just be like, ‘You’re right, I don’t want to hurt you.’” (31:50–32:08 – Dolores)
• Bro code breakdown:
  • Paul and Eddie (their partners) keep secrets better than the Charm boys; “There is none on this show.” (26:52)
• Whitner’s family is a hit:
  • Relatable, loving, “raised normal” — “If I was the girl in the group…I'd be going after Whitner.” (28:32 – Dolores)
• Dinner party games backlash:
  • “My worst nightmare…playing a dinner game where you have to answer questions. Get the hell out of here.” (29:03 – Tamra)
  • Dolores and Tamra agree: games on Housewives = drama.
• Sally’s wild night:
  • Sally’s drunken, unfiltered flirting with Austin is called out: “She’s a tossing the salad kind of girl.” (36:03 – Tamra)
  • Notable moment: Sally (off-camera) says she’ll “eat Austin’s…booty hole.” (35:47 – Tamra)
• Dad bod debate:
  • “Who loves dad bods?” (33:52 – Tamra)
  • “She likes it because it gives her something to hug.” (33:54 – Dolores)
  • “I think of a dad bod as like man boobs and kind of a belly.” (34:24 – Tamra)
• Relationship honesty soapbox:
  • Dolores: “Don't say this is my girlfriend, don’t lead her on…Be honest, give them the chance to know that.” (40:32)
• Female friendships’ complexity:
  • Sally and Vanita’s falling out; Vanita is hurt, feeling their friendship was deeper than Sally’s actions indicate.
• Madison’s labor:
  • Madison is in labor; excitement for the birth and praise for her happiness and family.
  • “It’s a miracle and it’s a beautiful thing…as long as it’s not me.” (42:51 – Dolores)
• Chauncey the dog’s funeral:
  • Patricia’s love for dogs, Austin gives a eulogy. “Not the smartest dog, but certainly the sweetest.” (44:21 – Dolores quoting Austin)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bravo drama:
  • “You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.” (09:50 – Dolores on Jill Zarin)
• On secret-keeping among men:
  • “There is none on this show.” (26:52 – Dolores)
• Dolores’ spiritual motivations:
  • “If I can just, you know, show up for them…with everything going on in the world today.” (05:25)
• On reality TV dinner games:
  • “Can we just eat? I hate dinner games.” (29:14 – Tamra)
• Sisterhood in Housewives:
  • “That's a good housewife. That is a good housewife.” (14:13 – Tamra on taking criticism with grace)
• Sally’s wildest antics:
  • “She’s a tossing the salad kind of girl.” (36:03 – Tamra describing Sally after a late night)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:34–07:24 — Dolores’ D.C. spiritual journey with monks
• 07:28–13:04 — Bravo news: Jill Zarin firing, Broadway review
• 19:37–23:19 — Fan Q&A: Rhode Island Housewives scoop
• 23:19–44:44 — Full Southern Charm recaps and breakdowns
  • 23:43—Secrets and drama at the ranch
  • 28:32—Whitner’s family praised
  • 29:03—Dinner party games and cast dynamics
  • 35:47—Sally’s infamous “booty hole” comment
  • 40:32—Dolores on honesty in relationships
  • 42:51—Madison’s labor excitement
  • 44:21—Chauncey’s funeral

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Tone

Playful, honest, occasionally irreverent, and always infused with "Housewives" insider perspective. Dolores brings warmth and humor, while Tamra balances snark with sincerity. They don’t shy from real talk about Bravo missteps or the sometimes messy reality of friendships and relationships on and off camera.

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Final Takeaway

This episode serves as both a thorough Southern Charm recap and a vibrant snapshot of Bravo worlds colliding. Dolores' candid stories, Tamra's sharp observations, and their willingness to poke fun at themselves and others make this a can't-miss for Bravo fans seeking entertainment and authenticity.

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[Dolores Catania]

two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two T's in a Pod with Myself and Dolores. Hi. Hi.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you notice something about my background?

[Tamara Judge]

It's blurred. It's blurred.

[Dolores Catania]

Besides blurred, it's different. I'm not home. I am in Washington dc.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh. I mean, all I see is white and blurry, so it's really hard.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay. I didn't realize. Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah. That's all I see.

[Dolores Catania]

I only blur the background because I hope that it could blur the lines on my face. However, it only blurs the background. So I, you know, I like to try. Yeah. So 5:30 this morning I woke up, got. Got in my car and went to the airport and I landed in Washington D.C. and I am in pursuit of the monks today.

[Tamara Judge]

I know we talked about that in San Francisco. So is there like an app where you can follow the monks? Like where they're going to be at a certain time?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, there's like a little map that I can't read. I'm totally winging it. As soon as we hang up, they. The memorial, the Lincoln Memorial. They will be having a walk from there to. I don't know where else, but yeah, that's. That's what I'm doing.

[Tamara Judge]

So are you there by yourself?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Really?

[Dolores Catania]

You know what, Tamara? I could not let anybody ruin my peace. Not. You know, when you do something like this, you want whoever you're with to really be into it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And I kind of just want it for myself.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. This has always been kind of your thing. It is about this. I would love to have gone. Are you gonna film any of it? Are we gonna be able to see this?

[Dolores Catania]

I'm just praying that I. I get there to see them and I can hear them speak and how amazing.

[Tamara Judge]

And what a good heart. Big heart. You have that. You go there and you don't even really know that you're gonna be able to see them. You're just hoping you are and you're planning on it and spent the money. Like, that's. That is just amazing.

[Dolores Catania]

This is, you know, it's something that calls to me with everything going on in the world today. Like, if I can just, you know, show up for them. Number one, they've walked 2300 miles from Texas to Washington, D.C. their bodies are beat to shit. They are sick. They've lost two along the way. One lost his leg. The other one was, you know, not well enough.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

They're poor tootsies, too. I couldn't imagine.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my God. You should see pictures of their feet. Most of their walk was barefoot.

[Tamara Judge]

I saw some was barefoot. Some had like. Like, almost like socks on. Other people had shoes on shoes.

[Dolores Catania]

It looked like that. Stitch it.

[Tamara Judge]

Anyway, how's the dog doing?

[Dolores Catania]

The dog's doing well. The dog had surgery and had. I think the dog had. With what rugby had.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, rugby goes in soon for that surgery.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So the dog's back around. I don't know that he's walking with them. But, hey, listen, I hope I can report back that it was an amazing experience and I even. I am happy. I'm having low expectations just to be able to be in the vicinity of where they are. And that's. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So it's not like you have any in or like a PR person's like, I'm going to get you to them. Like, you're just doing this all on your own.

[Dolores Catania]

I wrote to them, I said, you know, I'm an influencer. I'd like to cover it. And I tried to get a press pass and nobody was having it. They said that they are full. So this is where we're at. And stay tuned.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well, I can't wait. So today's the day or today's the day? Today is the day. How far was your flight? Is it. It's close.

[Dolores Catania]

Hour and a half.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, not bad. Well, I can't wait to hear. Is it snowing there? Is it cold?

[Dolores Catania]

Today's a beautiful day for them. It's like 40 degrees. That's beautiful here. It's been like 12 degrees. That's cold.

[Tamara Judge]

Sorry, but that's cold for you.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, for me. I took too heavy of a jacket. So we'll see.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I can't wait. I honestly can't wait. So let's. We have a couple headlines, like.

[Dolores Catania]

I bet we do.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, Jill Zarin fired from me. So Jill Zarin, as everybody knows, was. She spearheaded this program and got it to E. And, you know, it's been her goal for the past decade or two since she's been off tv, to get on tv and she it up in one week. So. The Golden Life. She will no longer be on it after her racist Bad Bunny comments. According to Variety, Jill Zarin was removed from E's upcoming Real Housewives in New York reunion style series, the Golden Life before filming even began. The decision followed backlash over a now deleted Instagram video criticizing Bad Bunny super bowl halftime performance. Her comments were widely labeled racially insensitive, prompting the network producers to cut ties, citing company values. So bye bye, Jill.

[Dolores Catania]

That's. That's heavy stuff.

[Tamara Judge]

What do you think she's thinking right now?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, she finally spoke on it and she said that she's like, I'm only human.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know if she spoke to an outlet, if she just put this on her Instagram, but it was something along the lines of, I was never given a chance to explain myself or something. Okay. So she spoke to in touch, like, okay, why do you need to go to the press? Why don't you? You have no problem pulling up your camera and ripping on Bad Bunny. She also ripped on Lady Gaga's the Parents. There was somebody else. I ripped on their appearance. And I'm like, so you can't pick up your phone and do the same thing and say, I sincerely apologize. I don't know what I was thinking. But she definitely said, they didn't even give me a chance. Well, I. And then she also said, I took it down right away. And I don't know that that's true. I think it was up there for an hour or so. I'm only human.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, how. You asked the question to me. How do I think she feels right now? Yeah, she feels like she wants to rip her hair out because it was such a dumb thing to do. I just don't understand why she felt the need to do that. And, yeah, so. But guess what? You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

[Tamara Judge]

Right? So after what, you know, her In Touch article, and I don't know that there was an apology, I didn't see one. I think that she's probably kind of fighting for her job and her placement back on E and threatening and you're not finished with me. I'll be back. I just feel like that's the type of woman she is. She just. She's like tone deaf. So Zarin Fabrics is. When Bobby passed away, Jill had no stake in it or she was bought out or whatever the situation was. So the family still owns it, but Jill has not been involved in it. Not only has she not been involved in it, they don't want to be around her. They don't like her. So Jill's Zarin's alleged step grandson. Did a Reddit ask me anything? And confirmed that Jill allegedly did in fact invite the Bravo cameras to film Bobby's funeral. And they did not like that.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

So there's bad blood. There's definitely bad blood within the family. They put a statement out with a big red X through.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, Jill said she didn't. She denied that she invited him.

[Tamara Judge]

We all know it doesn't work like that. If I have a funeral for a family member, it's not up to somebody in my cast to invite them. That's not how it works. I'm sorry. There is permits to be had and all this stuff. It doesn't work like that. So the family member that posted ask me anything on Reddit. You can go read the comments on Gibson John's post. He has the Reddit breakdown of what was asked and answered.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, okay. So I'm gonna brush up on this tonight since I have not. Have you seen it yet?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I was out filming last night and then I got home late and got up early, so I haven't had a chance.

[Dolores Catania]

On a lighter note, I went to the play Juliet. Candy Burris is in it and it was amazing. Amazing. It's Life After On Broadway. It's on Broadway. It's called Juliet. And It's Life After Romeo. Andy was there, Margaret was there, Stacey.

[Tamara Judge]

It was an opening night.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know if it was the opening night, but it was definitely Bravo night. They had a pink carpet. It was such a cute play. I suggest everyone go to it. Her beautiful daughter Riley was there. We had such a good time.

[Tamara Judge]

And she's so talented.

[Dolores Catania]

She really is. She's so talented. It was just. It was great. It was really a nice time. Me and Paul went together and he even had a good time. The talent in the play, everybody was just wonderful. We all had such a great time. Andy, John, Hill. I went with Paul, Margaret, Stacy, Rauch. It was just such.

[Tamara Judge]

How was Stacey?

[Dolores Catania]

Stacy is a doll. She waited for me to get off the carpet and stop taking pictures, to give me a big, sincere hug and say she enjoys listening to the pod. She's like, I just have fun with it. And I'm like, thank you for that. I go, you know what, Stacy? You got a long life in this business because you really.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh.

[Dolores Catania]

To just have fun with it.

[Tamara Judge]

I would like to study her.

[Dolores Catania]

She is just freaking amazing. She's like, Dolores, it's all good. It's all good. I enjoy listening. And we've said great, amazing things. I mean, for the most part, we've been more on her side than not.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. But we definitely have things said, have said things that, oh yeah, maybe she might be like, hey, but you know, like we always takes it in stride. And that's a good housewife. That is a good housewife.

[Dolores Catania]

You are going to not only have a good time here, you are going to last a very long time. And she's beautiful and lovely.

[Tamara Judge]

She's stunning.

[Dolores Catania]

She's stunning. So nice. So nice. And you know who else has an attitude like that? Janet from the Valley.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah. We were with Janet in San Francisco. I love Janet.

[Dolores Catania]

She's awesome. And she's like, ah, listen, sometimes you say things I don't like, sometimes you say things I like. It's not a big deal.

[Tamara Judge]

Get over it.

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[Tamara Judge]

So, Dolores, I have some fan questions for you with, you know, the upcoming Rhode island show.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, let's do it.

[Tamara Judge]

I just want to ask you a few things. So what made you want to cross over to Rhode Island? Whose idea was it?

[Dolores Catania]

So, I mean, it's not like I raised my hand and asked to come on, but you were approached. Yeah. So my friend Liz McGraw, when they decided to do Rhode island, and Liz, I guess, had mentioned that her and I are such good friends, then I was asked if I'd like to be on it. And like I said, you won't see a lot of me. Yeah, I. I make some cameos. Yeah, thanks. But I enjoyed it immensely. I enjoyed being a film.

[Tamara Judge]

So it's safe to say it's very different than filming New Jersey because you were way more involved and you have deeper relationships with Jersey compared to the girls in Rhode Island. Like, you might be close to some of them, but it doesn't even compare.

[Dolores Catania]

Like. No, it doesn't. And there's history here. There's bad blood over the years. This is a new Starting fresh franchise. We haven't seen one in quite some time.

[Tamara Judge]

The trailer looks good.

[Dolores Catania]

I've known Liz, I don't know, for a few years now. I don't. I don't know exactly what. How long it's been, but it's been a couple years. We know each other through the cannabis business. So she's the queen of cannabis. Like, she was the pioneer of it all. And, you know, as you know, Tamara, Frank has started to get. He was getting licenses from. For several years now. You don't just sign people think you just sign up. So Frank's been working on it for a long time. So I met her through that world, not through this world.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, gotcha. Would you ever buy a house in Rhode Island?

[Dolores Catania]

100%. If Paul wants to buy me something like a wedding gift, I'd love a house there.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

We fell in love all over again there, my summer there. Even though I was filming, like I said, here and there. But the house I rented was so beautiful. Had a yard with sailboats and hydrangeas everywhere and birds, and it was just beautiful. The beaches are beautiful. The people are. You know, they go, okay, old money. Wait, they go from old money to, like, people like, I went to high school with.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so who's Going to be the breakout star?

[Dolores Catania]

You know, I've been asked that, and that's not for me to say, because I don't. How do we know how when it's edited. Who's the breakout star? Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Is there somebody that has, like, a bigger personality on the show? Like a big personality?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, you're going to, like, like, because she's my friend, of course I'm going to say Liz. Right. So everyone has big personality. Listen, everybody's got big personalities there. So I think everyone's going to pick their own breakout star.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you good with everybody on the cast? Like, there's nobody you're on bad terms with?

[Dolores Catania]

No, I'm good with everybody for now.

[Tamara Judge]

Who else in New Jersey do you think would fit in with Rhode island ladies?

[Dolores Catania]

Every person in New Jersey would fit in Rhode Island.

[Tamara Judge]

Is it every. Every. Is it? So it's very similar to Jersey.

[Dolores Catania]

I felt at home at one point. Alicia, that's on the show, she goes, dolores, you're one of us. It's like, are they.

[Tamara Judge]

Are they all of them Italian?

[Dolores Catania]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

No. Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

But they would come off as such. When I say old New Jersey, I'm saying there's an innocence about them that we're all gonna love. And they put it all out there this season. They put it all out.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, okay, that's all the questions I have. Let's get into Southern Charm. Season 11, episode 11. And we're at Whitner throws the dinner party. They're at Itchy Ranch.

[Dolores Catania]

Itchy Grass.

[Tamara Judge]

Itchy Grass, Ranch, whatever it's called.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm itchy. My skin is so dry because of the weather.

[Tamara Judge]

Austin doesn't want to tell Shep or Craig that he's sing because he thinks they'll throw it back in his face.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, you know, one person on this cast, Tamara, no one keeps a secret here. I am so shocked.

[Tamara Judge]

Madison's out there just telling everybody. She's just telling everybody.

[Dolores Catania]

And they're so close. I feel like they're almost like brother sister close. And I'm like, madison, we don't do that in New Jersey. We do not repeat what a friend says to us.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And then Shep thinks he needs to give advice to Austin about relationships. And I'm like, after last year, I don't think that Shep should give any advice. Like, what's his advice going to be? Right. Cheesy text messages and give them shark tooth necklaces.

[Dolores Catania]

I remember that. Oh, my God. I felt so bad when he did that. I know she wasn't into him. Like, I've never seen someone so clearly not into somebody. And then the shark tooth necklace, just put it over the top.

[Tamara Judge]

He really deal over there. But they're like, that's something you buy like at the gift store in Dana

[Dolores Catania]

Point harbor for like a 12 year old boy.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. Right along with the papuka shells.

[Dolores Catania]

Listen, I don't want to break the guy's heart. It was already. I know we love you, chef. But like I wanted to hug him when that happened because his little heart was broken and she was like, so the ex, she had the ex.

[Tamara Judge]

She looks so much like my son's girlfriend. Jordan. Yeah. Anytime I post pictures, they're like, is that. What was the girl's name? Sienna or something like that? Sienna, yes, Sienna.

[Dolores Catania]

Because I knew Sienna.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So then Craig confronts Sally about making up stories about him. Sally says Craig is the ultimate gaslighter. Austin tells Charlie that Craig actually didn't phrase things the way Sally is telling her, which is absolutely true. This, this episode get a flashback of the conversation and he did insinuate like, well, I don't know if I'm overthinking this. I think that's what kind of saved him and saying, I don't know if I'm overthinking this, but it did save

[Dolores Catania]

him in my eyes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it did. But basically I don't want to lead her on and then have to. I don't what he say like break her heart or break up with her or something like that.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, we always know how that plan hands.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

On the other foot, I think it

[Tamara Judge]

was Shep that said something along the lines, well, how do you. Why do you think you're going to break her heart? Maybe she's going to break yours or something. So, yes, a little bit of clarity on that. So Sally wasn't completely lying. She was just repeating what she said. Was she exaggerating? We don't know because we didn't hear Shep what Shep had told her.

[Dolores Catania]

Right. Because was it off camera? It must have been.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it was off camera.

[Dolores Catania]

Good old Sally. See, they bring it on camera what was told off camera. You know, like, you gotta shut your mouth. And especially to Sally, who you know is on a rampage right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, what are you thinking? You know, Sally's not trustworthy to tell her something when it comes to that situation.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like telling.

[Dolores Catania]

It was like a Christmas present.

[Tamara Judge]

Telling somebody something their enemy said about him. You know, it's gonna piss him off. Like, what are you doing?

[Dolores Catania]

What happened to bro code?

[Tamara Judge]

There is none on this show.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, Paul won't even tell me shit about a guy in his life that's doing something wrong. He's like, I keep it from you to protect you from it, too.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that's a guy thing. Eddie's like that, too.

[Dolores Catania]

Just so you know. Eddie. Most of Eddie's better secret than anybody. Paul.

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of Eddie's conversations with me is like, I don't know if I told you this. I go, no, you probably didn't. Yeah, I don't know if I told you this. Nope, you didn't know.

[Dolores Catania]

It starts off when you know it starts off, you know. He didn't tell you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

He's trying to cushion the blow for not telling you.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's talk about Whitner's parents. Big wit. Oh, my God. How cute are they cooking dinner in the kitchen.

[Dolores Catania]

We're so happy to have everyone over.

[Tamara Judge]

And they're so, like, spicy. And the way they talk and the way they are in front of the camera. It wasn't like they were shy or didn't know what to say or. You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, oh, my God. These people are normal.

[Dolores Catania]

It's a normal family cooking. So happy to have everyone there. And the dad was so excited, you know, in my. You know, when. As you get older, that's all I want is for my kids to come back, bring their friends, bring their significant others, bring their kids, their dogs. That is the goal in life, for them to still be together, still be in love, have their kids doing well, financially stable, very stable, as you can see. And they've just lived a normal life. And because of them, if I was the girl in the group, guys, I'd be going after Whitner.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, 100%.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, what are you thinking? What are you thinking? This guy was raised normal. He was raised with love. He had a wonderful childhood. Growing up an itchy farm.

[Tamara Judge]

He's not gonna have any mommy or daddy issues.

[Dolores Catania]

Riding horses, girls, this is what you go for. Hello. When you're buying a dog or a horse, you look at the breed, they come pedigree.

[Tamara Judge]

So Whitner makes every. Okay, so my worst nightmare. And I'm with Madison on this, playing a dinner game where you have to answer questions. Get the hell out of here.

[Dolores Catania]

We don't play games.

[Tamara Judge]

Can we just eat? I hate dinner. I just take games like that. Like, I feel like anytime on Housewives, they play a game, it's going to be shady. It's going to be 100 shady otherwise,

[Dolores Catania]

they're not going to air it.

[Tamara Judge]

Right, Right. So it's like whenever they get. Let's play him on. God, here we go. Here we go.

[Dolores Catania]

We're going to just say one thing before I forget. In the comments, people are saying, Dolores and Tamara. Don't you remember Austin and Sally slept together in the past. What? You didn't see that under.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't read. I don't really read the comments.

[Dolores Catania]

It's under our comments on.

[Tamara Judge]

On 2T. Oh, I didn't.

[Dolores Catania]

Are we missing out on something?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know about any relationships that they had together, but she sure talks about his private parts a lot. And even his butthole.

[Dolores Catania]

Sally.

[Tamara Judge]

She was. She was. She. Oh, God. She's fun time girl. She's fun time girl when she's drunk. Yeah, she's a tossing the salad kind of girl.

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[Dolores Catania]

maybe you should stop it because it's not working out. Oh, Sally slept with Shep.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so we were wrong. We'll admit when we're wrong. Sally slept with Shep. She wants Craig got shot down. Now she wants Austin.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, she's making her round fishing in the same little pond.

[Tamara Judge]

If you're gonna go, go for the big fish. And that's Whit. She also slept with Gaston. He was on last season.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay, well, listen, Sally, I'm not faulting you for that. I'm not slut shaming. I am not doing that. I'm only saying you're only young and pretty for so long, ladies. Go for the bigger fish and get out of the pond. You're fishing in the same pond. What happens when you fish in the same pond? There's. You're gonna catch the same fish.

[Tamara Judge]

You're gonna catch crabs. Craig is telling Sally that they are fine, and he never said that. And I feel like it's gonna bite him in the ass a little bit because he. Craig did say that. And we do finally get to see the flashback. At this point, you did make a comment. Just own it. Say, you know what? I did say that maybe say, I

[Dolores Catania]

don't want to hurt. You can switch it around with the truth, bro. Just be like, you're right. You know, Charlie, you're right. Like, I'm a wounded bird. I. I don't know. I may. I don't want to hurt you because I've been hurt. Yeah, come on. I. I do. I have to talk for you. Well, Charlie, admit it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Charlie's like, you need to fix things.

[Dolores Catania]

No, Charlie. But what are you doing there? Then when you see so you know what. What is that saying, Be careful picking up broken somebody Broken, you'll cut yourself?

[Tamara Judge]

Never heard that. Did your mom tell you that one, too?

[Dolores Catania]

No. Instagram.

[Tamara Judge]

Instagram. So after dinner, Shep tries to give Austin dating advice. Austin says he is vulnerable, but not with Shep and Craig. So he's basically saying, I open up, I talk, but not with Shep and Craig, which I find, like, kind of crazy. So Austin doesn't trust either one of his castmates with any deep conversations. And I thought. I always thought they were really good friends.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't think you. You can really consider yourself close friends with someone if you're afraid to open up around them. And that's how I feel in my life. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, the conversation was. Was awkward. Like, the combo between Austin and Shep was so awkward and confusing. Like, Shep was giving all this advice, but I'm like, what are you talking about? You're not making any sense. But Austin doesn't trust Shep.

[Dolores Catania]

Why do you think that is?

[Tamara Judge]

I think because Shep called Craig and said some. I met some girls in New York and they said that Austin was, whatever, you know, hitting on them or whatever. It's Sally talking about hitting on. Sally's like, Austin so hot. He has a dad bod. I loved.

[Dolores Catania]

Who.

[Tamara Judge]

Who loves dad vibes.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, she likes it because it gives her something. A hug. I. I feel like that about my dogs. I love pit bulls more than.

[Tamara Judge]

You're not marrying your dog.

[Dolores Catania]

But I. I like. I. I want to.

[Tamara Judge]

I want to.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm better off. But. No, I mean, I. I mean, not. I don't mean that for Paul, but I love my dog. Yeah, I love my. I love a. A big guy. But I wouldn't describe it as dad bod. He's not even a dad.

[Tamara Judge]

I just think of a dad. Bob Bod is like.

[Dolores Catania]

His dark nipples.

[Tamara Judge]

Is dark. Not the nipples. Oh, my God. I think of, like, man boobs and, like, kind of a belly, but kind of scrawny, but kind of.

[Dolores Catania]

You know what I like about him? He's funny.

[Tamara Judge]

Like the Grinch. His body.

[Dolores Catania]

No. You know what I like about him? He's tall.

[Tamara Judge]

They're all tall there. It's crazy.

[Dolores Catania]

I love it. That's what the mother was saying when they walked in the kitchen. Whitner's mom. Because Whitner's the. The runtime.

[Tamara Judge]

Six, five.

[Dolores Catania]

But you know what I love about them? That makes them more attractive to me? As far as I'm concerned, it's their frat. Their frat Boy humor. I think it's. It's not for me. You know, I'm from New Jersey, so that doesn't like. But like frat boy humor. If I was a girl, like, from around there, I would think it was funny and cute.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, the next morning, Austin has an emotional hangover, and Madison leaves early because she's emotional emotionally. Hangover. Well, Madison's convinced the baby's coming early. Well, and then they do flashbacks of Sally drunk the night before when cameras are down. I don't know who was taking these. I don't know if it was iPhone or real cameras, but they're flashbacks of Sally drunk saying, I'm going to eat Austin's.

[Dolores Catania]

Say it.

[Tamara Judge]

Say ass, booty hole. It's something I never like a nice girl. It's something I never needed to hear.

[Dolores Catania]

Do you think she cares that she said it?

[Tamara Judge]

I think she was so drunk. You can tell how drunk she was. It's just. Was coming out of her mouth.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't get drunk, but you don't drink, so I'm not gonna blame being drunk on saying things that you just want to do.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they're probably deep inside the truth that you wouldn't normally say.

[Dolores Catania]

I would just normally say that I don't really care if I'm drinking or not if that's what I was. But I wouldn't say like that in front of everyone.

[Tamara Judge]

But some people get more courage when they drink beer. Muscles say, yeah, exactly.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't think she needed to drink. I'm. What I'm trying to say is I don't think Sally needs to drink to say whatever's on her mind.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I mean, she's pretty open about most. Most things. She even talks about Austin's wiener.

[Dolores Catania]

What about it?

[Tamara Judge]

At the dinner table. She wants it. That's what she was saying, was that before.

[Dolores Catania]

After went to bed.

[Tamara Judge]

It was when he got up and walked away. So I think it was. The parents were still there, I think. I'm not sure. She whispered it. She didn't say it out loud. She whispered it to Molly.

[Dolores Catania]

Her and Molly have been getting really close now and then.

[Tamara Judge]

Molly's like. Rolls her eyes like, oh, God.

[Dolores Catania]

I think Molly's really funny.

[Tamara Judge]

I do, too.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I. I think she's funny. I think that she's there for, like, comedic relief in it all. That's what her. I think her point is on the show because she's kind of silly. I think she'll come into her own. I'm gonna give her another season.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So then Charlie and Craig go canoeing. And Craig couldn't be any more of a bitch by sitting there saying he's excited about him and Charlie. But it's hard when Sally keeps trying to get involved. Shut up, Craig. Stop talking about Sally like he's like, I couldn't. Most guys would not go there.

[Dolores Catania]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you see a future? I mean, watching them right now? Do you see a future?

[Dolores Catania]

It's too soon. And. Well, we know it's not because he's with someone else. So it's hard for me to say because I know they're not together,

[Tamara Judge]

but

[Dolores Catania]

whoever he's with, he's been with for a long time now.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Hopefully we get to see her now. The boys go fishing. It was really cool little area. You know, we don't really have those kind of areas around here, but it was like a little house and with open walls and I don't know what

[Dolores Catania]

they're called to watch people fishing.

[Tamara Judge]

Hole. I don't know. Well, it's not exactly an exciting sport, that's for sure. But what we did get is some. A little bit of content there. And that's Austin find the reveals to shut up that he is single.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. And it was like pulling teeth. What was the big thing? And, you know, it's funny because then he wakes up the next. He's like, I think I would be calling her.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that there was a big blowup after, you know, like two episodes ago when he was belly up with. With Sally. I think there was a big blowup. I think that happened. And then they separated.

[Dolores Catania]

Speaking of fish, I'm just gonna say. I'm gonna say that this is the one that got away.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she was really sweet.

[Dolores Catania]

She was sweet. She was good for him.

[Tamara Judge]

But you know how some guys don't want that. They want, like a challenge and they want this and that.

[Dolores Catania]

I think, well, there.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe he just wants to be single. I don't know.

[Dolores Catania]

Don't. Then don't date a girl. Don't. Don't say, this is my girlfriend. Don't lead her on to think that if that's not something. If your intentions are not long term or tell them right out of the box, and then if they want to stick around for it, then that's on them. Yeah, but at least give them the chance to know that. Like, give them the chance to say whether or not they want that. I always would get. Would get mad when somebody was in a relationship and they weren't forthright and transparent. The other person is not transparent. About their intentions and what they're really looking for. Because that takes away the person's option to stay or leave before they get really emotionally involved.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

And that's when I have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with you want not wanting a long term relationship or not wanting to be serious with someone.

[Tamara Judge]

Just be honest or.

[Dolores Catania]

Just be honest. And I could never get mad if somebody didn't like me as much as I like them. That's not their fault either. You can't fault them.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Dolores Catania]

As long as they're honest. And so many.

[Tamara Judge]

You can't live in denial a hard time being honest. Yeah, I know. Trust me, I know.

[Dolores Catania]

I know you love that dishonesty is your favorite thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Makes my skin crawl. So the. The guys are fishing. Sally and Vanita are talking. And Sally feels like Vanita was trying to pin her and Molly against each other this whole time. She says that Vanita tells her information to use her as a scapegoat. Now, do you think Vanita was trying. I don't know that. I see that. I know that Venita is loose. Vanita is loose lipped. She is.

[Dolores Catania]

And who isn't on this show?

[Tamara Judge]

Right? I agree. And I don't know that that's necessarily double standards.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't like double standards.

[Tamara Judge]

I know Vanita gets really emotional and walks away. I was really shocked to see Venetia get emotional over this because she was hurt. Why do you think she was so hurt? Because.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I think that she held their. Their friendship in a different, higher standard. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I feel like that.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, for her to get that hurt.

[Tamara Judge]

But I don't think Sally was being mean to her in any way. She wasn't. I think that Sally was kind of calling her out on some of her stuff. Now, is it a hypocrite because they do it to each other? Yeah, I think so. So I don't know. I think she was getting called out. I don't think she's being attacked.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, I don't think she was being attacked. But I do think that it was a wake up call to where they stand in their friendship for her. And I think that's what hurt her the most.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So Vanita calls Madison. They do. I think it was a FaceTime or Madison calls Vanita.

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[Tamara Judge]

And she was right. Madison is in labor. So it's so exciting. Babies in weddings and all that are so fun to watch.

[Dolores Catania]

They really are.

[Tamara Judge]

They are.

[Dolores Catania]

It's kind of like you, you know, you. You become almost so immersed in this. It's like an interaction.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, even if you don't know somebody that's having a baby, it's. It's an emotional thing to watch, I mean, let alone experience. But it's a miracle.

[Dolores Catania]

It's a miracle and it's a beautiful thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

As long as it's not me. And I just think that it's exciting to see her and she's getting her girl and she's so beautiful. Madison. She's really stunning.

[Tamara Judge]

She is. So.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm just. I'm happy for her and her life. She's doing well. Her son is doing amazing. She's married to a good guy. She seems to be really in love.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. He seems like a great guy. So one thing that I was confused about or disappointed, the trailer for next week, it didn't have any crying baby. We didn't get Madison. It was all about other stuff. So I'm like, do we get to see next week?

[Dolores Catania]

Maybe it's just. Yeah. Be. Just. The trailer didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah. And then Patricia asked Austin to speak at her dog Chauncey's funeral.

[Dolores Catania]

Don't forget about Chauncey.

[Tamara Judge]

Chauncey. When did Chauncey pass away? Before she. He did right before they filmed. I think there was a flashback. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

But they. They put Chauncey, she has. Where he used to love to poop. And I'm like, maybe Chauncey don't want to be where there. Maybe he doesn't want to lay down where he.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, there's like whole pet cemetery in her backyard.

[Dolores Catania]

I love her love for her.

[Tamara Judge]

For animals. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And. And everyone goes along with was. It was really Whitney's right there with a suit on.

[Tamara Judge]

The bagpipes, Austin, the bag pipers. It was just the three of them and the. And the guy playing the bagpipes.

[Dolores Catania]

And she was very happy. Austin did an amazing eulogy to the point. Short, funny, cute, and described Chauncey as not the smartest dog, but certainly the sweetest dog.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So kind of like it was some other people on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

But that's all we have for today, guys.

[Dolores Catania]

I think that's a lot.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a lot. Thanks for tuning in to two Teasing a pod. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Tell your friends, repost. Do all the things. Keep us going and we'll be back.

[Dolores Catania]

Coffee

[Tamara Judge]

next week with episode 12 and hopefully we get to see Madison's baby.

[Dolores Catania]

It's going to be pretty.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it's going to be.

[Dolores Catania]

Everything about Madison's pretty. The house, the kids, the husband, everything.

[Tamara Judge]

The clothes.

[Dolores Catania]

It's all pretty.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a pretty life. Yeah. Okay, guys, thank you.

[Dolores Catania]

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