It’s Giving Scripted (RHOSLC Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod – "It’s Giving Scripted" (RHOSLC Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Date: November 13, 2025
Episode Focus: RHOSLC Season 6, Episode 9 Recap and Bravocon Prep

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge dive into the drama-packed ninth episode of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, bouncing between hilarious personal anecdotes, BravoCon anticipation, and major franchise gossip. The pair unpacks the episode’s chaos—including the infamous airplane blowup, outlandish costumes, and swirling rumors—while giving insider insight into how reality TV really operates. With their signature irreverent candor, the Two Ts question what’s real, what’s exaggerated, and what’s "giving scripted" about the current RHOSLC season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wigs and BravoCon Prep

• Teddi rocks a new wig from Marisol, sparking a playful back-and-forth about hair choices, past hair disasters, and keeping their looks fresh for BravoCon.
• Tamra reveals she’ll be getting free clip-ins from Marisol’s BravoCon booth and laments her own hair breakage.
  • Quote: "I am not dyeing my hair another color!" – Teddi (04:17)
  • Quote: "This is coming from you, Tam, where I feel like you're always f*cking with your hair." – Teddi (04:27)

2. Instagram Repost Button Woes

• Tamra rants about the new, poorly placed Instagram repost button, hilariously confessing she accidentally reposted Jen Aiden’s podcast.
  • Quote: "You might want to go look at your repost because it's in a spot where, if you're just kind of scrolling, you can hit it and repost stuff… I posted Jen Aiden’s podcast on accident." – Tamra (05:02, 05:30)

3. Heather Gay on Watch What Happens Live

• Recap: Heather Gay threw shade at Lisa Barlow, asserting that Lisa doesn’t live off her own money like the rest of the cast.

  • Quote: "The only difference between Lisa and the rest of the cast is they live their life with their own money and Lisa doesn't. The shade, the shade, the shade, the shade." – Teddi (07:02)

• Heather’s New Show: Surviving Mormonism

  • Tamra praises Heather’s new docu-style series as "so different than Housewives".
    • Quote: "It's good. It's really good. It's so different than Housewives. It's documentary style." – Tamra (07:40)

4. The Captain Jason Hookup Rumor

• Recap: Speculation swirls about whether Heather Gay hooked up with Captain Jason.
  • Teddi and Tamra debate if "made out" equals "hooked up", and discuss conflicting accounts from Heather and Captain Jason.
  • Quote: "When someone just hooked up, it's like they were bumping uglies." – Tamra (08:29)
  • Quote: "Let’s hope it's not getting his hook out broken." – Teddi (08:40)
• Insider Insight: Tamra mentions Captain Jason still keeps in touch after sharing cancer experiences (10:13).

5. BravoCon Anticipation & Travel Nightmares

• Both hosts discuss their BravoCon plans, the stress of packing, and flight concerns due to a rumored government shutdown causing delays.
  • Tamra is “bringing Veena, I love gummies, and drinks” to the hospitality suite (16:26).
  • They joke about traveling with a “nurse nanny” just in case.

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6. RHOSLC Recap – Season 6, Episode 9

Costume Chaos & Yacht Pranks

• Tamra is “over” the RHOSLC girls’ obsession with costumes:
  • Quote: "If they put on one more damn costume, I'm going to lose my mind." – Tamra (19:07)
• The "Britney’s unicorn" prank sparks debate—funny or mean? Both hosts say it felt “produced” and question what would happen if the prank were reversed.

Breakfast Blowups: Meredith vs. Brittany (and Whitney)

• Meredith switches targets—now mad at Whitney for encouraging Brittany to bring up a touchy TikTok.
• Teddi and Tamra agree Meredith is misplacing her anger and acting dismissive.
  • Quote: "Tell us how you really feel, Teddi." – Tamra (22:28)
  • “It’s more like: if you’re not upset, if there’s no truth to it, then what do you care?” – Teddi (22:38)

Airplane Meltdown Mystery

• Much of the episode centers on the unfilmed plane incident where Meredith allegedly lost her composure at Brittany.
  • The hosts—and much of the cast—question why no video surfaced if the outburst was so wild.
• Tamra is skeptical: "It’s giving scripted right now. I'm sorry, I'm saying it." (36:26)
• They theorize about missing footage, crew seating, and production logistics.
  • Quote: "If the crew filled up most of the seats, they would have gotten their cameras out and filmed this. This is TV gold. We need to get to the bottom of this." – Tamra (35:18)
• Mary is cited as a reliable narrator for confirming the meltdown, but the lack of physical evidence is suspicious.

Cast Dynamics & 'Scripted' Accusations

• Heather appears to play both sides, leaving Tamra frustrated about her loyalty to Brittany.
• Lisa Barlow is called out for allegedly downplaying the drama to the group after confiding in her husband about Meredith’s behavior.
  • Quote: "She did change her tune…so if anybody from the front [of the plane] was filming it, they would have seen it." – Tamra (33:49)

Bronwyn & Whitney’s Open Marriage Talk

• Bronwyn discusses rumors about her spouse’s infidelity and introduces the idea of an open relationship.
• Teddi and Tamra are bewildered by their “arrangement” style marriages.
  • Quote: "If you're married and you're gonna go sleep around with other people, then why be married?" – Tamra (40:06)

“TikTok-Gate”

• Brittany’s infamous TikTok (allegedly involving Meredith’s husband in a compromising situation) is debated.
  • Both hosts haven’t seen the actual TikTok.
  • They muse on whether sharing the video on camera was smart strategy—or just setup for more drama.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the airplane scandal:
  • "It’s giving scripted right now. I’m sorry, I’m saying it." — Tamra (36:26)
  • "If the crew filled up most of the seats, they would have gotten their cameras out and filmed this. This is TV gold." — Tamra (35:18)
  • "Nobody went to go sit next to her or the crew isn't like, hey guys… There's a missing. There's something missing, I'm sorry." — Tamra (46:12)
• On the cast’s costume obsession:
  • "It’s overkill with the costumes… Brahmin’s keeping inflatable costumes in business." – Tamra (19:13)
• On open relationships:
  • "My husband ain't sleeping with no one because I'll kick him in the balls." – Tamra (40:02)
• On 'Bravo-Damage Control':
  • "Maybe these girls have packed together to bring the other two down, which I don’t think they would do… but it’s giving scripted." – Tamra (36:15)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Wigs & Hair Talk: (03:42–04:44)
• Instagram Repost Issues: (04:56–05:44)
• Heather Gay's Shady Comments: (06:40–07:37)
• Heather & Captain Jason Rumors: (08:02–09:57)
• BravoCon Travel Logistics: (15:35–17:30)
• RHOSLC Recap Start: (18:12)
  • Costume Pranks: (19:07–20:13)
  • Meredith/Brittany/Whitney Drama: (20:15–23:07)
  • Tip Money & Yacht Theories: (23:19–24:14)
  • Airplane Incident Debate: (31:08–36:40)
  • 'Scripted' Accusations: (36:15–36:32)
  • Open Marriage Talk: (38:21–41:25)
  • “TikTok-Gate” Breakdown: (42:08–44:00)
• Speculation & Final Thoughts: (44:13–48:05)

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Conclusion

This episode of Two Ts In A Pod is a quintessential Housewives deep-dive: gossipy, irreverent, and peppered with genuine industry insider perspective. Whether you’re looking for RHOSLC scoop, production theories, or BravoCon sneak peeks, Teddi and Tamra keep it entertaining and (mostly) unfiltered. The episode’s recurring refrain—“It’s giving scripted!”—captures both their skepticism and their insatiable curiosity about whatever comes next in Salt Lake City drama.

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For fans who missed the RHOSLC episode or just want to know the backstory behind the social media storms, Teddi and Tamra’s recap covers every sideswipe, subplot, and behind-the-scenes theory.

Transcript

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[A]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddi Mellencamp, and Tamara Judge.

[C]

Teddy, you're all wigged out today.

[A]

Guess whose wig this is? Who makes this wig? Marisol. Oh, yes. To me.

[C]

Okay, so Marisol sent me a message.

[A]

Look at the front. Granted, my head's all. It looks good, but it like, good. Lace front looks natural.

[C]

Is it easy to put on?

[A]

So easy. I did it in like two seconds.

[C]

She has a booth at BravoCon this year, so she told me to stop by to get some free clip in, so I'm going to take her up on that.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. I mean, this hair is so soft. Like, I could only hope that when my hair grows out, it's so soft.

[C]

It will if you stop fucking with it.

[A]

Listen, I. I am not dyeing my hair another color.

[C]

You freak me out every time I post. I'm gonna dye it pink. I'm gonna do. No, you just let it grow.

[A]

This is coming from you, Tam, where I feel like you're always fucking with your hair.

[C]

No, I'm actually reverse with my hair because I'm trying to get it healthy again because it all broke off.

[A]

Well, that's my.

[C]

That's why I'm darker.

[A]

Yeah. I mean.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

So, you know, a lot of people wanted pink, but I'm not allowing it.

[C]

We've already done a Bravo Con with care. That was like, what, four years ago? Whatever. I don't know. It was a long time ago. Do you know what? Something is really bothering me right now.

[A]

What?

[C]

The Instagram repost button.

[A]

I don't even know what it is.

[C]

Okay, well, you might want to go look at your repost because it's in a spot where if you're just Kind of scrolling. You can hit it and repost stuff.

[A]

Other people's stuff.

[C]

Yes. And it's in the worst spot ever. I told Eddie about it and he looked at his repost, he's like, oh, my God, I reposted all these things. I didn't even know I did.

[A]

Did.

[C]

You want to know why I'm bringing attention to this? Because I reposted Jen Aiden's podcast.

[A]

What?

[C]

On accident. I had no idea.

[A]

God. Are you leaving things?

[C]

Tam? Yeah. Did you mean to rep? And I go, no, it's just. It is in the absolute worst spot. Instagram, Please fix it.

[A]

Did Jen. Who? Jen asked you. Did you mean to. Or did Kaden ask you if you meant to.

[C]

Kaden did. He's like, did you mean to repost? I go, no, I didn't. I didn't even. I didn't even know. Like, I just randomly will repost things on accent as I'm scrolling.

[A]

That is so.

[C]

Yeah. I bet you if you look at your repost right now, you'll be like, I didn't mean to repost that.

[A]

I'm not a big scroller these days, though, seeing as I can't see very well.

[C]

Well, I'm a little obsessed with LTK right now.

[A]

You are? You're buying all the things?

[C]

No, I'm posting all the things. So I was off of it. I was off of it and because it was a lot of work and I haven't done it for a couple of years. Used to a long time ago, and I'd pay somebody to do it for me and all that. And now I have that concierge service where they. I just send them my picture and they do everything for me. So it's just so easy now. Now I'm like, oh, this is fun for you.

[A]

Money, free money. Let's go.

[C]

Did you happen to catch Heather Gay on Watch what Happens Live last night?

[A]

Yes. And I also happened to catch Captain Jason when he was on.

[C]

Oh, we've got to talk about both of those. So she said on watch what Happens Live, Heather Gay said, and watch what Happens live that the only difference between Lisa and the rest of the cast is they live their life with their own money and Lisa doesn't.

[A]

The shade, the shade, the shade, the shade.

[C]

I know these girls, they're so shady.

[A]

I wasn't expecting her to say that, actually, when. Because she was second seat, she was sitting next to.

[C]

Oh, you had to throw that in. You had to throw that in, didn't you? Ricki Lake.

[A]

Yeah. So she's Sitting with Ricki Lake, she's second seat. Ricki Lake holds up that she agrees that they all lived life the same or something like that. And Heather Gay turns around disagree, and she's like, no. I mean, the only difference is we live our life with our own money.

[C]

She's a fast thinker, that one.

[A]

She is a fast thinker.

[C]

Yeah. Well, Heather Gay's show premiered last night, Surviving Mormonism. And I happen to watch an episode. It's good. It's really good. It's so different than Housewives. It's documentary style.

[A]

I want to watch it.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. So you guys go tune in now. You want to talk about Captain Jason?

[A]

Well, Captain Jason. So we on this past episode, Heather says something along the lines of like, they made out. And then she goes, did I say in her confessional? She goes, did I say that?

[C]

I think she said it out more than made out. We hooked up, I think is what she said, if I'm not mistaken.

[A]

See, I still think made out is hooked up.

[C]

How old are you?

[A]

I know, I'm 44.

[C]

Geez. Really?

[A]

Yeah. To me, made out.

[C]

When someone just hooked up, it's like they were bumping uglies.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah, we hooked up. That guy, he got his hook in there.

[A]

Let's hope it's not getting his hook out broken.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh gosh. Then he alleges when he's on that it didn't happen.

[C]

Oh, yes, yes. That's the most important part. So she has said on the show that they hooked up or whatever, made out and. And he's saying, no, that never happened. We're just good friends.

[A]

Live. She kind of went back on it again and was like leading us to believe.

[C]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold the door. I didn't see that. So what did she say on Watch what happens live?

[A]

So Andy said that Captain Jason was just on and said that it didn't happen. And she and Heather Gay said something along the lines of like. Oh, really? Is. Is that what he said?

[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Uh huh. But kind of alluding to the fact he's lying.

[C]

Oh my God.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Oh, oh, we gotta get to the bottom of this.

[A]

I mean, should I just message him and ask him?

[C]

Oh yeah, because last time you messaged him, it was so good.

[A]

He still messages me.

[C]

Oh, he does? Even after what happened in New Orleans?

[A]

Yes, even after what happens in New Orleans.

[C]

You do remember, right?

[A]

Yes. Just so everyone knows, I never messaged him for any kind of date or anything like that.

[C]

No, no. You asked him for a video for one of his fans, right? Isn't that what it was?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So then I guess he said that I slid into his dms. Blah blah blah. You guys heard the story. But since then he's been he DMS me occasionally because he's also struggled with cancer.

[C]

Yeah, he had skin cancer. Melanoma as well.

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[A]

I am ready for bravocon. You know, like, a year ago, to this day is kind of when my life, like, fell apart. And thank you, Facebook, for reminding me. Not Facebook. Thank you, Instagram, for reminding me of that.

[C]

Facebook will remind you as well.

[A]

They will.

[C]

They will send you memories.

[A]

Thank you for the memories. Hey, are we Facebook friends? Thank you, icloud. No, I don't even have Facebook. I think, Edwin.

[C]

No, you do have Facebook. I've seen it.

[A]

You won't.

[C]

You won't accept my friend request.

[A]

I didn't know that a friend request came from Tammy sue, and I just didn't been avoiding it. I don't want to let you in too far.

[C]

Are you packed? Are you. You leave tomorrow, right?

[A]

I leave tomorrow. I fly out tomorrow, and then I come back on Sunday.

[C]

Now, there's a lot of concerns with the flights.

[A]

I know.

[C]

And a lot of people I know. Bravo's got to be, like, shitting themselves right now. Because of the government shutdown, Flights are getting delayed. They're getting canceled. Flights into Vegas are getting canceled. So I'm. We are driving because we have some stuff to bring to the hospitality suite for. For us twats. I'm gonna bring some Veena. I love gummies and drinks and things like that. Today is my last day to get.

[A]

My outfits together and so you're not packed yet?

[C]

I. No, I have to get my nails done. I have not had my nails done since the reunion. It's been a month.

[A]

I'm not getting my nails done.

[C]

What do you mean?

[A]

Like, they're just bare nails.

[C]

Can you. You want me to do them? I'll bring my kit. Can we at least try to paint them?

[A]

I don't think we have that kind of time.

[C]

I have. I have a whole gel kit. I. I do my own nails sometimes.

[A]

Bring it.

[C]

But I don't do acrylics. I just do the gel stuff.

[A]

Okay, that's fine.

[C]

I'm getting an IV today, a hydration iv.

[A]

Oh, that's smart.

[C]

I'm getting the nails done, the iv, then the packing, then I got some sponsor post to do, and then I'm just busy all day long.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I'm trying to. I'm packed. I just need to get everything organized. My flight leaves I think at 11 tomorrow and hopefully I'll go smooth with that and then I'll arrive.

[C]

If not, you're getting in your car and driving.

[A]

I'm not even allowed to drive.

[C]

Nurse Nanny. What's her name?

[A]

Nurse Nanny.

[C]

Nurse nanny's gonna be driving you there.

[A]

Oh my gosh. Let's not even imagine that that would happen. So what did you think about this episode? This is season six, episode nine of Salt Lake City.

[C]

Probably one of the most craziest episodes I've seen on Housewives in a very long time. I know, and it was super sized too. So it was, I was just like. Every turn, every time they go around the corner, every time they meet, it was something new.

[A]

Yeah, it's nonstop. These ladies. So it starts out, the girls head out to the deck for a yoga lesson from Captain Jason.

[C]

This guy does it all. He's a doctor, he's a yoga instructor, he drives a damn yacht. What doesn't he do?

[A]

Admit to making out with Heather Gay.

[C]

Well, it's something he's not going to admit to. He will not admit to it.

[A]

Then Bronwyn gives Meredith the gift of Britney's unicorn. They put it on Bronwyn's costume, a lobster and a pink shark and head up to throw Britney's unicorn off the boat. Do you think this was a, like a funny prank or a mean prank?

[C]

I don't think it's funny at all. And if they put on one more damn costume, I'm going to lose my mind.

[A]

Brahmin's keeping inflatable costumes in business.

[C]

I guess so. I guess so. But the thing is, is like everything has to be a costume and I just feel like it's a little produced like. And I. Why did they have to throw that off and they have to make a big old deal about it? And could you imagine if Britney threw something of Bronwyns in the water or of Meredith? Oh my God.

[A]

Because who actually did the throwing? Meredith. Right?

[C]

I can't remember.

[A]

I think there's just two.

[C]

It's overkill with the costumes. And then we. They do the mid season trailer and there's more costumes. Of course there is more costumes and more costumes. Let me just say I don't mind a costume once in a while, but every damn scene.

[A]

Every damn scene. And like they're not even funny. Like watching them go around as a lobster and a shark to throw out. That's the corn.

[C]

Only thing I didn't care about in this episode. The rest was just, oh, such a good episode. These girls know how to do it.

[A]

They know how to do it.

[C]

Put me in, coach.

[A]

Put me in, coach me in. While the girls are at breakfast, Meredith admits that her issue is with Whitney today, not Britney, because Whitney told Britney to bring up the TikTok. Whitney clears up that she was giving Britney the option to clear it up. Not telling her to. Was Meredith misplacing her anger here?

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Yeah, I think so, a little bit. But here's the thing. Brittany brought the damn tick tock up. It's her. I feel like Whitney was collateral damage in it. She didn't want to get in the middle of it. And I think also Whitney's smart enough to know, like, if we just don't bring this up or we don't talk about this again and won't make the show. And I. I don't think she's being a horrible friend. I think she was like, listen, you're the one that needs to tell her, I'm not touching this.

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Yeah. She's like, either you need to tell her or I'm gonna tell her because we can't just talk about it behind her back.

[C]

Well, to say, finally Brittany's getting a backbone, though.

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Well, can you tell me what was all over Britney at this breakfast? I.

[C]

At first, I'm like, what is going on? Like, is that, like, did she have a tattoo and I wasn't aware of it? That's a birthday.

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I was like. I said, Hannah.

[C]

It's Hannah's. Because she had a. She had it in her hand, too. She had on her chest and her hand. But the problem is I didn't think it's either. Oh, I thought it was a henna tattoo.

[A]

I thought. I have no idea what it was, but it was smudging everywhere.

[C]

Well, we're going to have her on the pod in Las Vegas, so we're going to have to ask her. What the hell was that?

[A]

Yeah, it was smudging everywhere. It was getting on people's stuff. They were all getting mad. But at this point, Meredith has turned her back completely to Brittany. She's flinging her hair, like, in her face while they're eating. I would.

[C]

I would elbow her. I know you. Somebody flings their hair in my face on purpose. They're getting it.

[A]

They're getting it and, like, multiple times. But Meredith, just say what you need to say to Brittany. Quit being like, you're not. You're not even anything worth speaking to. I think that's where it just takes it Too far? Yeah. Like you're the dirt on my shoe and I can't be bothered to even speak to you. But I'm very, very mad.

[C]

Tell us how you really feel, Teddy.

[A]

Well, that's how she acts. Yeah. That's how Meredith acts towards other people when she's mad at them.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's. It's more like if you're not upset about it, if it's. There's no truth to it, then what do you care?

[C]

Well, I think she does care. And she didn't want to lead on that she did care. And I think that she was trying to act like it's no big deal, but we see later on in the airplane. Well, we actually don't see it. We only hear about it, which is another confusing situation which, once we get.

[A]

Onto the airplane, talk.

[C]

We've got to talk about some. Definitely. Definitely.

[A]

Then the girls pack up their things to head off the boat. Heather apologizes to the staff for all the fighting. The crew gives Brittany her unicorn back. And Brittany is pissed that someone threw it in the water. Bronner and Meredith admit to throwing it in.

[C]

How much money do you think was in that envelope?

[A]

That was a thick envelope. I can't believe we have to wait months to find out how much they tipped.

[C]

So how. What do you think? Like each person gives like a thousand bucks. I was thinking 2000.

[A]

It looked thick too. Or do you think they were being cheap? And those were ones in there.

[C]

They're $1 bills. Cheap asses. I don't know, but I mean it was pretty thick.

[A]

Below deck tips are normally like 20k.

[C]

That's why I was thinking it had to have been.

[A]

I know. I wonder what it was.

[C]

More than 2,000 a person. And maybe that was the deal. Like in order for them to get this yacht, they definitely had to tip.

[A]

Maybe that was the deal.

[C]

I mean, nothing like having to go on a yacht and then pay all that money and then tip $20,000.

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Then tip $20,000 to fight.

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So that all kind of happens in a pretty quickly in the episode did.

[C]

You see but did you notice like with Heather when she's like thank you Captain Jason and she's putting her hand on I know now I can't unsee it and I'm like what are you doing girl? Where are you going there? So that made me think, oh maybe they did, maybe they did.

[A]

But if they did, why is he denying it? Has he admitted to making out with other people before? Didn't he admit to making out with Luann? Or did I make that up?

[C]

I don't remember, but I think it's been more than. Luann wasn't. Adriana. Luann wasn't there. Am I making that up?

[A]

I don't know. I. This is the problem. I don't know if we've just heard things or these things are admitted to truth.

[C]

That seems to be our problem a lot of times. Seems to get us in trouble.

[A]

Either way.

[C]

So they obviously. I mean, obviously they're filming her. Them throwing uni off the boat, and they're like, oh, this is a perfect opportunity to get one of the crew members on the boat, to get it out of the water so they can hand it to. I mean, that was set up by the crew.

[A]

Yeah, that was for sure. And even on watch what happens live, the crew was like, this is one of the hardest yachts trips we've had to do. Like, we walked out to, like, conversations about farting and affairs, and all I.

[C]

Can think is like, I don't think you can throw that in the ocean. You're gonna kill a turtle or something.

[A]

Well, I just thought it was so unnecessary.

[C]

Or constipate a shark.

[A]

Constipate a shark. Shark, Shark out. Unicorns over there below deck.

[C]

I shit out unicorns and glitter.

[A]

That's not how it smells.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Toss me on out. But then on the flight home, they said Meredith had a freak out in each of their interviews. So the girls talk about how crazy Meredith was. I know Meredith said she. Meredith said if she caused as much of a scene as the girls were implying she did, she would have been escorted out by an air marshal.

[C]

She ain't lying when she says that. And this is the part that's really confusing. You know, if somebody can record Todd texting with a mistress on the. They're gonna record screaming and yelling on a flight. That's a part that I'm missing. Like, did they have all of first class and nobody else?

[A]

You know, Katie wrote on Instagram, I would have recorded it.

[C]

I saw that. I mean, in our situation, our cast, if something big happens and there's no cameras, somebody will bring out their phone to record it, to give it to production.

[A]

But remember, they have such a tight pact on not recording things now after last season's drama when they thought Britney was recording.

[C]

Okay, then how come it wasn't leaked? How come nobody that was on the flight said anything? People have big mouths. There was, if you remember a situation way back when when they were filming that they said that Meredith was put on pause for a little bit because of an incident Is this the incident or was that all a rumor?

[A]

It could all be a rumor because it doesn't seem to be a pause. She's right into this next part of the episode. But, I mean, it must have been bad. But Lisa Barlow says to her husband when she's coming back, eating the chicken.

[C]

Soup, Chick fil A or whatever it is Wendy's. I'm pretty sure it's Wendy's.

[A]

She says that clearly Meredith had lost her mind and lost her shit.

[C]

Lost her shit. Yeah.

[A]

But then when she's talking to the other girls later, she seems to have changed her tune a bit.

[C]

She did change your tune. Now, looking at the seating chart on the plane, Angie's in the front. Mary and Whitney and Brittany are in one row. And then Heather, Lisa and Meredith are in the last row. So if anybody from the front was filming it, they would have seen it.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So they really only had one row behind them in first class. That would have filmed it. Maybe those seats were empty. I don't know. But you would think if it was that big of a scene, people would be recording it just like.

[A]

You mean a stranger on the plane. Yes, I know. I'm a little bit. But how would they have gotten the footage? Somebody would. Somebody would have had to have been a housewife fan. Yeah.

[C]

And they would have put it to that. They would give it to robbers and cocktail or. What's that? One of those ones that get all those tips.

[A]

I know, but that's why I think either the seats were empty, but somebody was saying that. Oh, you know, production could have just picked up their iPhones. But production doesn't set up in first class.

[C]

They don't?

[A]

No. So they.

[C]

And a lot of times they are not on the same plane as us because they have so much equipment to pack. They usually go on a different flight. Like, they. It's time consuming. So sometimes they don't fly with us. So I don't know. I don't know. But the one thing I do know is I don't think Mary would lie.

[A]

Well, now I'm even more confused because Heather said on Watch what Happens Live that the crew filled up most of the other seats.

[C]

What?

[A]

I know, okay.

[C]

If the crew filled up most of the seats, they would have gotten their cameras out and filmed this. This is TV gold. We need to get to the bottom of this.

[A]

Filmed it the way they do on. All right.

[C]

Like they did with that mysterious collar. It was one of the girls that picked up a phone and was recording it.

[A]

Hello. Hello. How's your Darling, I just wanted to say that Tamara's leaked all these. Really? Nobody cares about May 12th.

[C]

Tamara. She said she went to a lie detector test. Yeah. So that was done on a iPhone.

[A]

Yeah. So I mean, the fact that. I don't know. I feel like why we don't have any footage of this is. Must have been how bad it was.

[C]

No, the worse it is, the more they want to put it out there. It's reality tv. I don't. I need an explanation.

[A]

I need an explanation.

[C]

I mean, the only other explanation is. Is these girls have packed together to bring the other two down, which I don't think they would do that for the sake of the show.

[A]

I don't. But how. Why would they even do that?

[C]

I don't know. But it's giving scripted right now. I'm sorry. I'm saying it. It's giving scripted.

[A]

I think it happened.

[C]

I think it happened because Mary said it happened, and I believe Mary said.

[A]

It happened, and Mary said it happened for long periods of time.

[C]

The way her face was. Oh, my God. I can't wait to get. To get that scene.

[A]

Yeah. But then a couple days later, Heather and Brittany meet for lunch. Britney is upset that Lisa turned on her. As she explains that Lisa was not only egging it on, but was fully a part of it. He. Heather tells Brittany she is fully on her side.

[C]

Yeah. I have a question. I heard hair pulling. I heard them say there was drinks, like, flying and hair pulling, but nobody talked about whose hair got pulled.

[A]

I think what they're trying to. What Meredith and Lisa are trying to imply is that when she was getting out of the chair, she put her hands on the top of the chair. Like, okay. That's what I think they're trying to say, but I don't buy it.

[C]

Yeah. Heather in this situation, I. It bugged me a little bit. I felt like she was playing both sides. She was not sticking up for Britney at the moment. Like, I don't know.

[A]

Was anyone sticking up for Britney when they were in that?

[C]

If it was that bad, why wasn't Heather sticking up for Britney? Do you think Heather and the ladies are using the fact that it wasn't filmed to their advantage? And maybe they're using it to exaggerate a story about Lisa and Meredith.

[A]

I don't know. Because Lisa even admitted to it. Lisa just didn't admit to it.

[C]

She downplayed it. She downplayed it?

[A]

Not to her husband. She downplayed it. Once the girl started saying she was a part of it. Yeah, she didn't want to be a part of it, but she did, you know, say that Meredith was essentially unhinged.

[C]

Yeah, she serves out of her mind.

[A]

Well, then Bronwyn and Whitney meet for lunch, and Bronwyn tells Whitney that people are on Twitter accusing Todd of cheating on her on a flight. Bronwyn says she believes them. Were you shocked by Bronwyn admitting this so freely?

[C]

Yes, I was. I am so disturbed by this entire lunch.

[A]

Yeah, well, I mean, I feel like at this point, Bron was taking every opportunity to get a nice cash settlement in her divorce that.

[C]

Well, I hate to say anybody's gonna get divorced, but the way that they were talking, it was, like, mind blowing to me. And I don't remember seeing this on social media, so I feel like Brahman brought more attention to it by bringing it up on the show. But maybe she was afraid it was going to be seen on social media. I don't know.

[A]

Maybe she was.

[C]

Maybe that's what she wants. Maybe that's what she wants. And then they sit there and they talk about threesomes and cheating, and if Todd wants to do it, he can do it. And, you know, Whitney, we are younger than. And we have older men, so we have to have arrangements or. Or conversation. I'm like, what? And then when Brittany. And when Whitney says marriage is sacred. Yeah, I thought about cheating.

[A]

What? Bronwick explains that they had agreed to sleep with other people. She would consider it. She wants to evolve with Todd. Yeah. It's a win.

[C]

Win for her.

[A]

Yeah. She's. She's like, I want to involve with you. I. I'm. I'm fine. Essentially, what I got from this conversation is she's fine hooking up with other people as long as she's not shocked by it.

[C]

Is it because she's there for the money? Well, because my husband ain't sleeping with no one because I'll kick him in the balls.

[A]

Or she wants the same rules to apply to her.

[C]

See, I just don't understand those type of relationships at all. Yeah, I don't get it. Like, if you're married and you're gonna go sleep around with other people, then why be married?

[A]

I. Especially when you don't have young kids and all those things. I don't really understand it.

[C]

I don't. I don't get it. I couldn't relate to anything that they were talking about.

[A]

But Whitney says that she went through something similar with Justin. She clarifies that they are not in an open relationship, but if they wanted to try something Together, they would talk about it. Whitney points out that the most important part is the agreement. So she's saying if they wanted that. Yeah.

[C]

That they. They would. That you do when you're young. I don't know. I just don't the energy for that.

[A]

I think this was just Bronwyn's way of getting it out there.

[C]

I'm shocked because she's been trying to protect Todd for as long as she's been on the show and now she just lays it out there and.

[A]

But it's the second time she's done this.

[C]

When she. When was the first time?

[A]

Like last season, Todd did something and she was crying about it on the boat and telling all the girls about it. And it wouldn't have come up had she not brought it up.

[C]

I remember that. Yeah. Shocker. Well, I don't know. I mean, I think Bronwyn's gonna be on this show for a very long time because she just. Just puts it out there.

[A]

She doesn't mind. She just puts it out there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Then Heather meets with Lisa for vignettes. Lisa arrives very late. Lisa says she did nothing to Britney and only told Brittany to send Meredith the tick tock.

[C]

What's with Lisa always being late? She's like a Lisa Hoxtein. It's in her name. Was Lisa Vanderpump late too? No, she was on time.

[A]

She was on time. She was most the time on time. But Heather feels like Lisa is telling her a different version than she was on the plane, even though she saw it herself. Lisa says she won't be held responsible for Meredith. Lisa thinks that Brittany needs to take responsibility. And Heather reminds her that Brittany is the victim in this situation.

[C]

Let me ask you a question. Would you have shown that TikTok on camera?

[A]

I don't understand why she would have shown that on camera to Whitney. What Brittany thought the reason for that was why she wouldn't if she wanted it shown, why she just wouldn't have gone to Meredith and been like, hey.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Would you have gone straight to Meredith? Like this season? We were kind of off camera changing from the. Those Jacuzzi hot tub boats or whatever they were. And we were changing and one of the articles came through like they always do on our I heart Twat chat. And it was an article about Jen being sued. And they asked me, can you bring it? You know, we weren't miked at the time. Can you bring it up? And I'm like, are you okay with that? And she's like, yeah, sure, yeah.

[A]

But sometimes that can backfire too.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because people can say, okay, sure, and then it's not really okay, sure, yeah, yeah.

[C]

But the tick tock, I mean, I was surprised more if it was that big of a tick tock. Like, didn't most of the girls know about it?

[A]

She probably already saw it. She probably just didn't want people talking about it.

[C]

Do you think she like popped a Xanax or like a sleeping pill and then mix it with alcohol or something.

[A]

Somebody eluded on the plane? She's like, I'm not saying that it was pills. I'm not saying it was alcohol.

[C]

But wait, a cast member said that?

[A]

Yes, but something was askew.

[C]

Well, who's more at fault? Brittany for bringing it up on TikTok or Meredith for her overreaction?

[A]

I think, especially if there's no truth to this, I think Meredith for her overreaction. Because clearly Britney is struggling and to just keep going, going, going, going. What does she want Britney to do?

[C]

At this point, I'm surprised Brittany didn't pull out her own phone and just record herself crying.

[A]

She's too scared.

[C]

It's so weird nobody got any footage of it.

[A]

I know, I know, I know.

[C]

I thought they were pros.

[A]

I thought they were pros too. But then Meredith meets up with Mary for drinks. Meredith tells her version of the plain story. She says she didn't even think Britney could hear her through the headphones. Mary feels like Meredith is coming up with a different story. Mary explains that she was there and heard it. And maybe Meredith doesn't remember what happened. Mary thinks that Meredith should apologize. Meredith doesn't seem to be interested in doing any of these things.

[C]

Well, first of all, when Meredith walked in, did you notice her nervous energy, her smiling and like, well. And she says, well, what do you think happened? Yeah, to Mary. Mary goes, I know what happened. I saw it.

[A]

And then she's like, no, you said you were sleeping. And she's like, yeah, every time I woke up, it was still happening.

[C]

So Meredith thinks that Whitney got into Mary's ear. And I just don't think that Mary's that girl.

[A]

I don't either.

[C]

You're not going to manipulate Mary.

[A]

She will. And Mary doesn't even like, you will cut you off.

[C]

Yeah, it was all kind of. This is when I absolutely believed it all is when Mary sat down with Meredith. Meredith was like having this really weird, like, nervous feeling because I think she.

[A]

Knows that, like, she can't yell at Mary and act the way that she would normally act towards, like, a Britney. Yeah. To Mary, because Mary wouldn't have it, and she had to just sit there and take it, even though she wanted to explode now.

[C]

So how I'm hearing it from the girls is that they were shaking her chair and drinks were spilling, and they're pulling her hair and they're demanding to see the video. And you're telling me Brittany is just sitting there crying and nobody's coming to her side? No one's.

[A]

That's what we're being told.

[C]

There's a missing. There's something missing. I'm sorry. I know there's something missing.

[A]

Nobody went to go sit next to her or the crew isn't like, hey, guys.

[C]

Because even Lisa at the very beginning, like you said, when she's with her husband, she's telling her husband she was unhinged. And then when she gets around the girl, she's like, huh?

[A]

Yeah. What?

[C]

No, it wasn't like that.

[A]

I know. It's so bizarre. I'm so curious what's going to happen next. And if we're going to get more pieces of this puzzle.

[C]

Well, we might have to wait to the reunion. If not, then they're going to drag this out. But they seem to move on pretty quickly on this show. Yeah, that's what I like. I don't want to hear about the same damn vibe.

[A]

And have you seen the Tick Tock?

[C]

No.

[A]

No, me neither. No, I haven't even seen the Tick Tock, but I'm gonna look for it now.

[C]

What was the Tick Tock Was Meredith's husband and another girl in a Uber. And the Uber driver is the one that made the Tick Tock. Or the Uber driver told her friend something like that. I mean, it just. It just kind of feels really fake.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It doesn't seem like something Meredith should be that upset about. Unless she was blindsided.

[C]

Or at least maybe she. Maybe she took a sleeping pill on the plane and had a drink and started thinking about it and lost her.

[A]

But why wouldn't Meredith cease and desist?

[C]

It ceased and desisted. We should just have a whole form that we can fill out ourselves. Just have it stamped by the court. Here you go.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

This cast member to this cast member to this one.

[A]

But it was a good episode. But there's still a lot to unpack, I think. Yep.

[C]

It's gonna be fun at Bravicon. Maybe we'll get some answers.

[A]

We're gonna get some answers because we have some of the ladies on so I'm excited. We are. We have a busy couple days coming up.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I'm excited.

[C]

I just hope everybody gets in on time and their flights aren't delayed and all that stuff.

[A]

Same here. Same here. Did you.

[C]

Did you practice your script?

[A]

I did not practice your script. I will practice it.

[C]

Me and Teddy will be presenting at Bravocon.

[A]

So we need to have it practiced.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Well, oiled machine.

[C]

There is a teleprompter which I can read, but I'm too worried I won't be able to see.

[A]

I have no memory and I can't see. So this is really. We are great for us. We're gonna nail it.

[C]

We'll be lucky if both our arms and leg off next.

[A]

Well, I love you, Tam. And I'll see you.

[C]

I love you too. I'll see you tomorrow.

[B]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[A]

All.

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