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Teddi Mellencamp
Two teas in a Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
Tamra Judge
Welcome back to another episode of two T's in a Pod with me and Dolores. I feel like we were just together.
Teddi Mellencamp
We had the best time.
Tamra Judge
We had such a good time.
Teddi Mellencamp
We had a beautiful weekend. The boys had a great time together.
Tamra Judge
I love Paulie.
Teddi Mellencamp
Never got to spend time with him.
Tamra Judge
Not really. A little bit when we were in New York once. But like, we spent a lot of time. Him and Eddie spent a lot of time together. Eddie adores him. He's like.
Teddi Mellencamp
He's like a wee little dude.
Tamra Judge
We're planning. We're planning our trip to Ireland.
Teddi Mellencamp
We're going to go to Ireland together and we. We love Eddie. Eddie so even keeled and. What a nice man. He's just a good guy. We really enjoyed everyone.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, we had the best time ever. I mean, it was just, just enough time. We got in there, we hung out, we went to the festival. Bottle Rock.
Teddi Mellencamp
The music was awesome. The weather was amazing. We had Emily and Shane and Kelly, Ben, Simone and all the Bachelorettes.
Dolores Catania
Yeah.
Tamra Judge
Your podcast with Emily is Blow Up. I think last I looked, it was number three on the chat.
Teddi Mellencamp
In a good way.
Tamra Judge
In a good way. Yes. It's doing very, very well. I'm going to text Emily after this. Over.
Teddi Mellencamp
It was, you know, listen, these are real life things to talk about. It's.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. So on Bring Attention, you talked about the Diddy case and some. Was. What else did you talk about on there. Was there another case you talked about?
Teddi Mellencamp
No, I don't remember now. It's been a blur. The weekend, you know. I know it's a time change. I feel like.
Tamra Judge
Check it out. It's really, really good. So we had. Let's see, the house that we were in Verbo. The house was amazing. It was like.
Teddi Mellencamp
Houses. We all had our.
Tamra Judge
It was a compound. It was literally like a house within a house and all these villas all around it. Very, very beautiful. It felt like Italy. A little bit like being in Italy. The vineyard was.
Teddi Mellencamp
It was very Tuscan and the vineyards around and the. And the hawks just flying over. Oh, my God, it was beautiful.
Tamra Judge
It was. It really was a good time. There's a couple of headlines from last week that I Want to ask your opinion on.
Teddi Mellencamp
Okay, okay.
Tamra Judge
So just recently, Salt Lake City, Brittany Bateman has been sued for. For maliciously failing to pay back her mother in law. $100,000 according to page Six.
Teddi Mellencamp
But I saw that and it seemed like it was for an elective. Am I wrong? Some type of like elective surgery or.
Tamra Judge
Well, let's see. It says Sandra Underwood, 87, filed a lawsuit on May 6, 2025. I know. Against Britney, alleging failure to repay a hundred thousand dollars. The funds were deposited and an integrity trust established in 2019 by Bateman's father. Bateman and her mother were trustees. Her mother passed. Sandra claims that at Bateman's urgent she deposited 100,000 into the trust, understanding she can withdraw it at any time. However, it looks like she pulled it all out and so now she wants her money back. So the lawsuit seeks repayment of 100,000 plus interest and attorney fees and she has not responded. So Brittany has not responded to this. Nothing to be said.
Teddi Mellencamp
What was the money for though? I don't know. Why?
Tamra Judge
Did you see it was for something?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, I don't know. I could be wrong. Where would I have seen that? It just came up and I was like, oh, that's weird. That's a lot of money for something like that.
Tamra Judge
But, well, just reading into it, her mother's having some. Or her mother, ex mother in law is having some health care problems. It looked like what this loan was like six years ago when she was married to her ex husband. And now she's having some money problems. The mother in law. And now she's like, hey, about that money you borrowed from me, I need it back.
Teddi Mellencamp
That's typically when you ask for it back when you need it. But a loan is just that. It is a loan. When you borrow money, pay it back. Oh, I go and get your hair done, your nails done, or buy clothes or go on a vacation.
Tamra Judge
She's having problems making ends meet. So there. Yeah. Hopefully she does the right thing. Another. Another headline that kind of put me in a tailspin. I think we touched on a little bit about this, but Erica Jane and Jesse Solomon hooking up at what after a watch what happens live tape.
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't think that we touched on this enough. Like bring it, Tamara. So bring it, girl.
Tamra Judge
What are you thinking? So there.
Teddi Mellencamp
What the hell do I care what I think you I want to hear.
Tamra Judge
So they reportedly hooked up after a recent watch what happened live taping. The pair had been seen engaging in playful flirting during the upfronts. Now, I did not See, in. I was there. I was at the actual upfront. I did not see any playful flirtation. I saw them talking. I saw them taking a picture together.
Teddi Mellencamp
Enough to know. Yeah, but if there was playful flirting, you would have already told us.
Tamra Judge
First of all, how did this information get out? How did it get out?
Teddi Mellencamp
He told.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, I'm not clear on that. I don't know if he told somebody that told somebody.
Teddi Mellencamp
Talk. Boys kissing boy.
Tamra Judge
Especially 30 year old boys.
Teddi Mellencamp
Boys kiss and tell. And who wouldn't want to brag about being with Erika James, Right? I mean, the living Barbie. Yeah, let's. I am sorry, but I want to brag for him.
Tamra Judge
I'm hoping that she addresses it with. With Teddy when they do their podcast next. And you know, Teddy's gonna get to. She's gonna get the bottom.
Teddi Mellencamp
Already gotten to the bottom of it. We just have to wait to hear what Teddy has to say.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, and. And if she did, like screw him for, you know, I mean, or I should say shame on him for leaking it.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, if he did something that she's not happy with, I feel sorry for him because he's going down.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's a PR stunt.
Teddi Mellencamp
I hope it's not.
Tamra Judge
Maybe there. Maybe they have a single coming out and they're going to collab together, music wise.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, stop right now, Erica.
Tamra Judge
I'm trying to think of all the things here. Stop.
Teddi Mellencamp
Don't ruin it for me.
Tamra Judge
And if she did, I mean, she's.
Teddi Mellencamp
Gonna be all bad.
Tamra Judge
She's going to rip him a new.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, you know, what's his name? Wes was bragging about being with an older woman. So maybe he felt shortly after this comes out, maybe he felt he had to catch up because you can tell me whatever you want. Him and Wes have maybe a little competition or he has a little competition with Wes, maybe. Oh, you think because he was talking shit behind Wes's back to Lexi.
Tamra Judge
Yes.
Teddi Mellencamp
Lexi told, remember?
Tamra Judge
Yes. And also just Jesse has a little thing for Sierra, who Wes used to date. So there is a little bit of competition. We're coming up with all kinds of.
Teddi Mellencamp
Scenarios, hoping it just happens. I'm dying.
Tamra Judge
So, Erica, let us know what happened and we want to know all the details about how good or bad he was, if it's even true.
Teddi Mellencamp
You think she'll tell? She's not a kisser and teller. She's very.
Tamra Judge
But she doesn't like to be wronged. So if this guy's out there talking about it and it did happen, then.
Teddi Mellencamp
She'S gonna have to address it.
Tamra Judge
Rest in peace, Jesse Solomon.
Teddi Mellencamp
Rip, Rip. And you're not. It's not going to be an easy death. It's going to be a slow, torturous death. Because when Housewives. When she's got nothing to lose. If this came out, then you're going down, bro. I have to tell you.
Tamra Judge
Well, season.
Teddi Mellencamp
Something to look forward to.
Tamra Judge
I know. Season 16, episode 12 of Atlanta. It was good. I wanted to see more of Phaedra. It was Phaedra's return back to the show.
Teddi Mellencamp
Very excited in the end.
Tamra Judge
I don't know. I don't know. But it starts off with Kelly goes over to Shamia's house. They're all in their bikinis, they're hanging out. They're planning a trip.
Teddi Mellencamp
And then, you know, just say something with all due respect. And I preface it with all due respect. Kelly, stop screaming. Stop, stop, stop.
Tamra Judge
That's so funny you say that. They used to say that about Vicki all the time. Like, the homeless were like, stop screaming. So they're planning a trip. Kelly's trying to have Shamia guess. Nope, nope, nope, nope. And then she says, it's in Grenada. Grenada. And I'm like, where the hell is that? Grenada?
Teddi Mellencamp
Grenada.
Tamra Judge
I don't know.
Teddi Mellencamp
All I know about Grenada is there is a medical school there.
Tamra Judge
Oh, okay.
Teddi Mellencamp
It is. It is a beautiful place. It's a Caribbean.
Tamra Judge
You know, it's like I've never even heard of it, but now I have, so I'm excited to see what their trip looks like. And then they get on the phone and call somebody. Now, these are the newbies pretty much. Well, she's been around, but she's officially a housewife this year. These are the newbies. Planning. Planning the trip. So the newbies have the trip this season?
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, it's. Well, it's. It's Kelly and Shamia. But the reason you have to understand is I've. I've hosted most finales and most trips is because you need somebody that gets along with every middle person. You got to bring. You got to have two people that could bring the two worlds together.
Tamra Judge
Is that why I never host a trip?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yes.
Tamra Judge
I have hosted one, I think.
Teddi Mellencamp
Okay. For 17 years. That's not bad.
Tamra Judge
So they get on the phone with somebody over there and asking what they need. Obviously, they. They're in need of supplies, and these girls are going to help out as well. So then we go to Portia, and she's meeting her real estate agent to look at houses. I didn't know that Portia, that's some house that was somehow. So that. I'm assuming the house that she's in right now is Simon. The house that her and Simon have.
Teddi Mellencamp
Had together has to be sold for whatever reason.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, well, I think she's getting closer to her court date. How's that going to work? Isn't he still detained?
Teddi Mellencamp
He's getting deported. So how, like he's not going to get undetained?
Tamra Judge
No, no, he's getting deported. So keep everything, Portia, just keep the house.
Teddi Mellencamp
Does that mean you get to keep it all? And anyway, I'm just curious, what did he come with? Did he have money? I.
Tamra Judge
It. I think so. At least it looked like it. It's hard to tell sometimes on these shows because people like to act rich. And the ones that are really rich don't even try to act rich.
Teddi Mellencamp
He had a lot of medals. He had like a lot of medals in a uniform. I don't know what those medals signify.
Tamra Judge
I don't.
Teddi Mellencamp
Not so sure. I know they flew private. I know that they were in the. You know, I heard she's driving a.
Tamra Judge
Rolls Royce, isn't she?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, but that could have been from her naked hair. But here's the thing. He was. Him and her, I do know this firsthand, were very much in love. And what is it called? Kiki and kissing and kicking, making out. And they were on a vacation together and they were very much in love. And shortly after they get broken up. So I. I'm not sure what happened.
Tamra Judge
I think it was. I'm not positive, but just. I'm read. I think it was all of his kind of maybe shady business dealings. Is. Is potentially allegedly what went down. And she was like, what the hell? Like she said she'd go to the airport and then he would get detained. And, you know, she was like, what the hell's going on? And I don't know. I don't know all of it, but I know I. What I do know is I think she's still very, very upset about it. And I think that that's what we're seeing.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, that's what I'm saying, because I don't think she saw it coming.
Tamra Judge
He.
Teddi Mellencamp
They were away together, they were kissing, they were very much in love. It was almost like described to me as a honeymoon, like vacation with the way they were with each other. And then next thing you know, this is what we hear. So she could have very well been blindsided.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, that's what I think. And I think that that's what we're seeing this season is she's just, there's nothing worse than being surprised because I feel like she's not being herself. Well, I'm gonna get to that in a little bit.
Teddi Mellencamp
But she did say, which is very important for all of us to hear. She. What was the word she used? She took care of business. This time she was not going to be left high and dry like the last time she got divorced.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, she, she said she handled her business so she wouldn't handle the same position as she was during her previous marriage. I was hoping that they were going to show a flashback of her ex husband. The first one when she first started.
Teddi Mellencamp
Wasn'T he a football player or something?
Tamra Judge
He was a ball player. I can't remember who he was. Like, I don't remember like what he looked like. She started Cordell Stewart.
Teddi Mellencamp
Cordell Stewart.
Tamra Judge
But I don't remember what he looked like.
Teddi Mellencamp
I wanted to either. But whatever it is, she's come so far and the fact that she did not let herself vulnerable to be in that position again is such a lesson for all of us because she was in love with this man.
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Tamra Judge
Well, did you notice there's more flashbacks of Nene leaks? They come throughout the season, which. I mean, this episode which leads me to believe that. Do you think they're setting. I mean, we've talked about this before. Is there going to be a return?
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't think so.
Tamra Judge
Would you like a return of Nene?
Teddi Mellencamp
Always. Very entertaining.
Tamra Judge
I think Nene is.
Teddi Mellencamp
Nene is. Nene. She is. Was. She was interesting to watch.
Tamra Judge
Well, you know, they brought back Phaedra and that was a little controversial. And I put a thing out on my Instagram what they thought. There was a lot of comments about her coming back.
Teddi Mellencamp
Why? Oh, because of the.
Tamra Judge
What had happened, the candy stuff, you know, and all that. That went.
Teddi Mellencamp
But that wasn't a legal thing.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, but it's illegal to say you're going to drug somebody. That's illegal.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yes, it is now, but now more so. Don't you think, Tamara?
Tamra Judge
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know the depths of what went down with Nene in Bravo. So I don't know if it's like an absolute no, she will never be back. I don't know. But I would like to see her back. I think she's great tv, that's for sure.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, but Phaedra is too.
Tamra Judge
Phaedra's amazing. There's also rumors that she was gonna. She's gonna be on Traders.
Teddi Mellencamp
There's a lot of traders rumors. And yeah, a few of them have been debunked. And so they're. They're always throwing people like, oh, the next trader that.
Tamra Judge
Now, I heard no, I heard no, I heard. Yeah, I heard that there was maybe somebody asked, but she didn't want to do it for some reason. Conflict of interest. I'm not sure, but I don't. I think it's a no. She's not on Traders.
Teddi Mellencamp
My mother used to love watching Nene.
Tamra Judge
She's fun. She's really fun. So then Angela and Charles head to their investment property. They had to reduce their price a few times. They have a couple investment properties. They're all $2 million. They're about $2 million in debt due to.
Teddi Mellencamp
These days. Do you sleep?
Tamra Judge
That's tough. So I think that she said once she has, like, six properties. Like, are they not selling? Are they priced too high? Like, what are you doing?
Teddi Mellencamp
I think that their houses sell. I have my real estate license. I used to practice.
Tamra Judge
I do, too.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. So what you know is the house sells itself. If it's priced right, it goes. It does not stick around. I don't care what the market is. So I think that her houses are overpriced. And I think that a lot of times realtors will come in and go, oh, you could get this for this.
Tamra Judge
And so she's getting bad real estate advice from someone.
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't want to say that about the guy, because they did show him, but, you know, there was a blanket hanging on the window, and the. The shades were ripped.
Tamra Judge
And, I mean, if it was me and I was trying to sell that house, I would make sure it's in perfect condition. I would stage it.
Teddi Mellencamp
Sometimes you have to make it smell good, maybe.
Tamra Judge
I mean, the pool in the backyard was bad. At one of the houses. I'm like, what is she doing?
Teddi Mellencamp
So she can't put any more money into it. She's right now back down to the price she bought it for after she renovated it. I mean, before she renovated it.
Tamra Judge
You know, I. I do apprec. Transparency about the debt. A lot of housewives would try to appear that, you know, I'm good. Yeah. I don't need. I have so much.
Teddi Mellencamp
Just a hobby.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, I. I mean, Charles made a good point. He's like, well, if your mom didn't want the house that you're in, why didn't she, you know, if she wanted to buy her own house, why didn't she buy this house? Why didn't she buy the house she was living in?
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Tamra Judge
I don't know, Angela.
Teddi Mellencamp
I think she feels like, you know, if that's what she was gonna do. They gave them the money for the house. From what I understand, they bought the house for them. Then they took that money and bought something else.
Tamra Judge
Yikes. I did appreciate Angela's tramp stamp on her back when she bent over.
Teddi Mellencamp
Angela's got a slamming body. I want to know how old she is. Angela, I cannot find it. I've been since I met you.
Tamra Judge
She's like, nope, not happening.
Teddi Mellencamp
And I need to know, because I think your body's beautiful, and you are beautiful.
Tamra Judge
I did like the banter and the talking between her and Charles this time. I feel like Every episode, it's kind of been like, he hates her.
Teddi Mellencamp
Today I felt like he looked like he felt bad for her when she started crying over her mother. And when somebody feels for you, they're empathetic towards you, then I think that he. He does care for her. I think he just has a different way of showing it. Like, these guys are old school. You know, they're not like. And he's a man. Like, he's a ball player. He's a tough guy. He's an older man. He's not about, like, doing. Playing it up for the camera. But I do believe that he does care for her.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, I mean, I think that maybe he just feels uncomfortable in front of the cameras.
Teddi Mellencamp
You know, they've been together a long time. He loves her.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. Like, leave him alone. So then we go on to Brit. She's hosting a party to launch her shapewear line, which is bare and naked, not to be confused with Porsche's wig. What is her wig line?
Teddi Mellencamp
Something naked. Hair.
Tamra Judge
Naked hair. Bare, naked. It's. Who's naked? Naked? Wasted. There's a lot of naked things you can say. It's at a country club, and I'm very, very confused why the girls did this little golfing thing.
Teddi Mellencamp
Listen, in those outfits, all I know is what does golfing have?
Tamra Judge
What does golfing have to do with shapewear? Do you wear. Does. Does Paul wear shapewear underneath his golf clothes?
Teddi Mellencamp
What country club allows heels on the golf course?
Tamra Judge
That's what I was thinking.
Teddi Mellencamp
They don't want those holes out of their minds. That is insane. What I saw.
Tamra Judge
Do you know what I think it was? What I think it was? Hey, I want you guys to have a little convo. The producers, like, go have a little side convo. Why? Once you hit some balls around, I.
Teddi Mellencamp
Don'T know what it was, but all I can tell you is the mortal sin of all sins for an Italian person. You didn't have food for everyone dead.
Tamra Judge
Oh, my God.
Teddi Mellencamp
I had to stop watching. I had to. I. You know what I did? It was so bad. It was like watching a scary movie. You fast forward through it and then you have to go back and watch it. I was dying.
Tamra Judge
And no goodie bags for these people either. So it was only for the housewives. And it was such a stupid move for her to bring attention to that.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, I was dying. I was dead. And those girls were not in country club attire. None of them. So I don't know what the theme was, but to bring people there and then to own. I don't you don't. I don't care if the. Whatever the coordinator or the. The person.
Tamra Judge
The party event planner. She's blaming it on the event planner.
Teddi Mellencamp
You can have the fact that she was told to only feed some of the people and then not to have everybody that showed up get something that they.
Tamra Judge
Well, then don't have a sit down. They're sitting down at tables, like have.
Teddi Mellencamp
A cocktail hour, not fed people. This is insane to me. This was the bad move on Brit's part. This was embarrassing, and it was a very bad start to the business.
Tamra Judge
I mean, it was as bad as her outfit. I agree with Phaedra on what happens live. She said, I think she looks. Brit needs a party planner.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, no. These parties cost a lot of money. Thousands and thousands of dollars.
Tamra Judge
Now, I did notice Brit saying that since her insurance license is on hold, she can't work. Do you think it really works like that? Because I'm. I'm not. I'm not positive, but I just feel like this is a bullshit statement.
Teddi Mellencamp
I'm still unsure about the fact that your license can be on hold because someone put pictures up of you.
Tamra Judge
That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm not believing this completely.
Teddi Mellencamp
I'm not believing it at all. I'm. I'm. I'm like, not.
Tamra Judge
I need somebody to. To. I need Phaedra to pull up information to see if this is actually how it works and tell us on the show, because I'm calling bullshit on this.
Teddi Mellencamp
Don't worry. Phaedra will do it.
Tamra Judge
Okay, then, Drew. Thanks Britt, for the invite. KE chimes in saying they should have conversation and Drew should tell the truth.
Teddi Mellencamp
So I think that Kelly just wanted to start a fight.
Tamra Judge
Little old Kelly, she wanted to start a fight. Look at her. Every. Everybody. Everybody's talking about what a liar Drew is. And Shamia went as far as to call her Drew Junocchio. Like Pinocchio.
Teddi Mellencamp
So good.
Tamra Judge
And why isn't her nose growing?
Teddi Mellencamp
That holds her own, though, I gotta say, now this is all happening. Shami is going head to head for getting called out for being Porsche's lap dog. Chihuahua. Whatever, Yorkie, whatever the hell lap dog it may be. And here's Portia sitting there.
Tamra Judge
She's saying not a fun word. Why didn't she say something? Why didn't she stick up for her?
Teddi Mellencamp
Hello, Portia, Your friend is getting on. She's taken on the table because she sticks up for you constantly. What are you doing? Open your mouth. Like, what the hell Are you doing?
Tamra Judge
Yeah. I mean, Drew, Drew, Drew, the. Just the lying about everything. The Michael Jordan, like, he's my second cousin.
Teddi Mellencamp
She should have just. She should have definitely followed that up with I'm just kidding. Because then later on she says, I'm just kidding.
Tamra Judge
Well, she didn't. The original, you know.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, she was.
Tamra Judge
She was very sincere. She's like, yes.
Teddi Mellencamp
She was like, yeah, that's my cousin.
Tamra Judge
But Drew has been accused of being a liar each season.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, once every season does something, it's very hard to get undubbed. But why?
Tamra Judge
I mean, to lie about something like Michael Jordan being a relative, like, when that can be easily checked. It takes me to the Mormon wives about the Ben Affleck thing. Like, no, somebody that's easily checked. Why would you do that?
Teddi Mellencamp
Don't lie.
Tamra Judge
Don't lie. Yeah, there.
Teddi Mellencamp
There you go.
Tamra Judge
You don't mind la? No, I don't lie.
Teddi Mellencamp
Sometimes people probably wish you did.
Tamra Judge
I know. Shamia confronts Drew about her conversation, called Shamia a lap dog. And like we said, we feel like shimmy is the farthest thing from a lap dog. I feel like she's the ringleader in the circus today. And Shamia's little one liners were killing me. She, she, overall, to me, hands down, one of the best housewives.
Teddi Mellencamp
Shamia, she's very smart and she's very talented all around funny, just amazing. Always looks amazing and. But she does a lot of the yelling and the ass twerking and then like, just stop. Do it once in a while. Not every scene.
Tamra Judge
Not every scene.
Teddi Mellencamp
I cannot take it anymore. How about if I was talking to you and all of a sudden I'm like, yeah, girl.
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
Wait, I want to see your ass shaking.
Tamra Judge
I'm dying. Oh, my God.
Teddi Mellencamp
What if I get that every two minutes? Tamara, would you want to be with me?
Zoe Saldana
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Tamra Judge
No. She gets a little. She gets a little excited.
Teddi Mellencamp
It just. I don't know. Maybe I'm just tired. That's why I got on my nerves.
Tamra Judge
I know, but Drew does own calling her lap dog. Shamia barks and says, kiss my mother effing ass. Brit says, we are at a classy establishment.
Teddi Mellencamp
That's why you're giving negligee out at the table.
Tamra Judge
I mean, classy and demure does not represent that pink and black polka dot train wreck of an outfit.
Teddi Mellencamp
Pink and black polka dot. It just looks so cheap to talk about. How about the feed people? Oh, she didn't want to pay for the. The money. Maybe she didn't want to bet. I mean, or like decorate, you know. And what about Shamia saying, at least put some tissue paper in here.
Tamra Judge
Is the box is empty. The box is empty. It needs more in there.
Teddi Mellencamp
But no, let's not forget what the extra large.
Tamra Judge
Oh, do you think that was on purpose?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, because. Because she brought up. Yes, it was shade.
Tamra Judge
It was shady.
Teddi Mellencamp
It was because I wouldn't have thought.
Tamra Judge
I forgot about that.
Teddi Mellencamp
She didn't say if. She didn't say so, everyone, I hope you like your sizes. Please let me know if you need to exchange.
Tamra Judge
Did you not think. Why are two husbands there? Why two husbands?
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, if you notice at this point, they disappear. If you'll notice, Mike and Charles. Charles leave the tape all of a sudden, they're just not there. You know what's funny? Because in product, in my production, they would have had to show them, get up and say, we're going to go get a drink. And then they leave.
Tamra Judge
So they have.
Teddi Mellencamp
It's just like all of a sudden we're watching. No, they're not there anymore.
Tamra Judge
Invisible.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamra Judge
But I think the reason why Charles was there was to tell Brett, I don't f. With whores. And then he said his. His line and he was out because it was really the first time he's confronted or been around her because she was accusing him of being not loyal to his wife.
Teddi Mellencamp
More. Were they ever close?
Tamra Judge
I don't know about being close, but I'm just saying he's there to tell Britt off.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, he deserved to tell his side of it.
Tamra Judge
And Yep. He just said, I don't mess with.
Teddi Mellencamp
So like there's. She's like, well, you know, we were just talking and this is what we said. And she's like. He's like, well, he said, yeah. He said, well, there's some things that shouldn't be said.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. So I. Now I know why he was there because I'm like, why, why? And why is Britt's husband sitting at the head of the table with her?
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't want to be at. Listen, I don't want to go up against Charles. He's like six foot something. I don't, I don't want that man getting mad at me at all.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. So that ended very quickly. Didn't see a lot of shapewear talk. There wasn't a lot of. Like, there wasn't like, there was no some display. There was nothing. It was like, here's your presents.
Teddi Mellencamp
And, and, and I don't know if they ever showed that she finished the outside. She decorated. You get what you pay for.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, right.
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't know if you paid for it, but welcome to having a party on the show. You have to make it look nice, so you have to make it nice. In the words of Dora, thank God.
Tamra Judge
Phaedra was not there, because she would have tore that shit up. And at this point, I'm thinking, where's Phaedra? They told us Phaedra was going to be on this episode.
Teddi Mellencamp
Thank God she's here. But let me tell you, making up for lost time in that little scene that they had in the end. Are we there yet? I don't want to jump.
Tamra Judge
We have one more. So all we have is Drew. Let's talk about Drew real quick. She's signing her record deal. She facetimes Dennis. She says she was at Angela's house and heard the portion, said Drew wanted to get with Dennis for free studio time. Dennis is like, really over this I am storyline. I'm like, I don't care.
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't care if you blew them or bang.
Tamra Judge
I don't care what you did to get free.
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't care. Nothing's for free. We know. We know.
Tamra Judge
I'm like, okay, bye. Bye. Congratulations.
Teddi Mellencamp
At this point, just who cares?
Tamra Judge
So Phaedra is back. She says the last time we saw her was in 2017. Wasn't her best moment. Phaedra regrets how she left the group. Portia is at eight years. Yep. So Portia. And it's also, if you remember, now that Candy is off the show, Phaedra is back.
Teddi Mellencamp
Very funny. However, Phaedra has not been sitting around for eight years. No, she's been doing just five more. She became a doctor. She became a mortician. She was. She is booked and busy. She was on.
Tamra Judge
Well, when you say doctor, she did a Reiki thing. That's like, I can do that.
Teddi Mellencamp
Okay, so whatever. She's not sitting around.
Tamra Judge
No, she's. She keeps busy.
Teddi Mellencamp
Traders. Amazing. Tons of Dancing with the Shows, Dancing with the Stars. She is not sitting around. And she looks the best she's ever looked.
Tamra Judge
She does. She looks really great. So she kind of had something to say about every one of the girls. Phaedra says Kelly is given garden gnome.
Teddi Mellencamp
Did we forget? Cynthia walked out of the lunch. She's like, I didn't come here and put up with this in a country club.
Tamra Judge
I didn't even notice that Cynthia came.
Teddi Mellencamp
She had a beautiful silver dress, and.
Tamra Judge
I remember seeing her, and then all of a sudden, she was gone.
Teddi Mellencamp
She's like, I did not get dressed, and I did not come to sit here and listen to this garbage.
Tamra Judge
Was she pissed off about that conversation? She just had enough of it all.
Teddi Mellencamp
She's just like, it's enough already. Because it is. It's. Every single thing is a problem.
Tamra Judge
It is.
Teddi Mellencamp
Sorry. I just had to throw in. Once again, Cynthia's the queen of class.
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Seriously.
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H. Let me check this pocket.
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Tamra Judge
Portia is at Phaedra's house and she is literally there just to give shade to every one of the cast, she says. Kelly is a garden gnome and she loves small people. Her fetish is little everything. Well, Phaedra, you're not that big yourself, little mama.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, I'll just take them in and I'll just keep them. I love little everything when she said it in a way where she could get away with saying it because no one, no one.
Tamra Judge
If I said that, I know you'd be dead. I would be dead. So then she said, Brit is a woman about town with more bodies than Willie.
Teddi Mellencamp
Who's Willie?
Tamra Judge
Maybe it's just like, then Willie, like, Willie's just, you know, a name. She did keep in touch with Shamia and says she's a good person.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. You know.
Tamra Judge
Were you surprised they addressed Phaedra's last season and the reason why she left the group? They didn't get into detail, but they did a little flashbacking. And I thought the flashback was actually.
Teddi Mellencamp
They had to address it. Okay. They just can't have her come on out of nowhere for no reason. This needed to be addressed, and they did it in such a way where they kind of downplayed what it was and let her just apologize for it, but they didn't show what it was. So she apologized for something most people didn't see or didn't. Don't know about. If they're just tuning in. So if you don't know the history of it. They really sugarcoated all of it and which was good because we want.
Tamra Judge
It was worse than what we saw, is what you're saying.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. So we want Queen Phaedra to come in without people thinking about that constantly. Like, it was genius the way that I personally, I think it was a genius way to do it. It was. It was forgettable. It was like nothing significant, but it was addressed.
Tamra Judge
Well, I think in the past, she never admitted that she actually did that. And I feel like how she talked about it, you know, with, you know, on camera was more like, you know, I regret how things went down. So to me, it made me look like she was taking accountability for it. But I might be wrong.
Teddi Mellencamp
Whatever it was, it was enough. Because really, it's. You know, there's like kind of like it's so long ago, nobody wants to hear about it anymore. It's a debt issue. Like, why bring it? Why make it a thing? We want her on the show. We do want to see what she's going to do with this, and we don't want to drag out the past past. This didn't happen yesterday. This is eight years ago. So, like, I think Housewives fans and Bravo universe is really sick of people dragging out so much of a past. Like, I'm not talking like, last year. I'm talking like, when you go back 10 years, it's almost annoying at this point. Point.
Tamra Judge
Stop.
Teddi Mellencamp
Am I?
Tamra Judge
Yes, I do. I do.
Teddi Mellencamp
It's like. It's like thirsty, hungry, that screams like, do we have anything else to talk About.
Tamra Judge
And if you don't have anything else to talk about, bye. Bye. So she goes on to Drew, and after Portia tells Phaedra that Drew is working with Dennis, Portia has some interesting.
Teddi Mellencamp
I love the taco comment.
Tamra Judge
Selling and sitting hot dot dog.
Teddi Mellencamp
So it's the. So she's like, oh, she's selling hot dogs. And she goes. She's sitting on the hot dogs. They certainly have a big love for food on this show.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. I mean, Phaedra is not holding back in her first scene. We didn't get to see a lot of Phaedra, but what we saw about Phaedra's got us all excited. Nobody throws shade like Phaedra. No one does.
Teddi Mellencamp
I did not know that.
Tamra Judge
Oh, you didn't? Oh, no, she. Oh, she knows what she's doing.
Teddi Mellencamp
I mean, I didn't know. Like, I just want to be Phaedra.
Tamra Judge
I know. And poor Drew, she can't catch a break. She really can. I don't think anybody seemed like she cares, but I don't really think anybody in this cast is. Really likes her, and that's a horrible place to.
Teddi Mellencamp
True. She's on an island on her own, for sure. I think that Angela tried in the beginning. Angela certainly did try to stick up for her and went after Shamia for her. Remember, back in the gym, Angela did try to come, but I don't think Drew really connects with anybody. And I. Well, yeah, for sure. But I also don't see a big connection with Angela, who's Angela's friend. I always feel like Angela's fighting for herself.
Tamra Judge
Well, we have the trip. We have the trip coming up.
Teddi Mellencamp
So let's see who actually see where the alliances lie.
Tamra Judge
Yeah. Because, you know, they change all the time, but sometimes it should.
Teddi Mellencamp
There shouldn't be teams, but I just feel like nobody's ever on Drew's side, and nobody's ever on Angela's side. But I also feel like Angela did try to be on Drew's side, and Drew just didn't reciprocate in the beginning. You know what I'm saying?
Tamra Judge
Well, I'm just happy to know that Phaedra is going on the cast trip.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, this is gonna be good. I can't wait.
Tamra Judge
It's gonna be good.
Teddi Mellencamp
I'm gonna text her today and say, I cannot wait. How many more episodes do we have here?
Tamra Judge
This is. What I don't know is how many episodes? Because I was thinking they get a lot. How many do we get?
Teddi Mellencamp
Cynthia said they. They film a lot. They get a Lot.
Tamra Judge
Okay, so we just heard there five more.
Teddi Mellencamp
So what is that in total?
Tamra Judge
They're at 12, 17.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, so they'll get 20 after the reunion. They'll have a three part reunion.
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
New Jersey used to get ripped.
Tamra Judge
You guys got like 12 episodes, right?
Teddi Mellencamp
15 with a reunion, so. And I don't know, I wonder why. Never gave a good reason. He was just always like, it's just how I do it.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, it's weird how they do certain shows a certain way. And like, right now I feel like it's pretty standard for 17 episodes. A shorter season is better because there's no filler episodes. But they're also what they're doing now, which is kind of new, is they're doing extended versions of the episodes. So instead of like, they're super sized. So instead of, you know, 45 minutes and then you add commercials, it's like an hour and 15 minutes or something like that. So it's kind of, you know, as talent, not the best thing you get. You don't get any more money for that. But it's. They're super sizing these. Oh, yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
Interesting.
Tamra Judge
That's something pretty new. Yep. So. So there she's going on the trip. I can't wait. We're gonna get to see Phaedra in five episodes and then the reunion.
Teddi Mellencamp
Okay. All right. This is gonna be fun. It's been an entertaining season. These girls are great. Now Phaedra is going to add to it, so I am looking for more.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, a few more.
Teddi Mellencamp
You know, when you.
Tamra Judge
I want more Phaedra. Yes. So a few fan thoughts. Sarah Shipley says, I feel so embarrassed for Angela. It seems like Charles has no feelings for it all. Busy B241 can't wait for Phaedra to meet the other ladies. Cam Hall. One Brits event with Sam. So weird. Why did they golf? Did anyone get food and then talk about it? I know Morgan, CC210 need more Phaedra. So I feel like everybody kind of feels the same way that we feel.
Teddi Mellencamp
Cynthia said that Phaedra did more in two weeks than people did in the whole season. So I can only imagine.
Tamra Judge
So only did. Seriously, she only filmed two weeks. I mean, she must have two weeks. Holy hell.
Teddi Mellencamp
Listen. And a lot can get done in two weeks. That's a lot. That's. So you figure two weeks, they film six days, six days out of the week. Right.
Tamra Judge
She probably filmed every single day.
Teddi Mellencamp
So if she filmed every single day, I can only imagine she came back and she put on a show. She never disappoints Ms. Phaedra, the Queen of everything.
Tamra Judge
She does not. She's. She came straight from Married to Medicine. So that's finished.
Teddi Mellencamp
Married to Medicine to. From what I understand, she did not show up at the reunion. She left the finale, I believe. She did not finish filming with them.
Tamra Judge
Yeah, that's what I heard. I honestly, I've never been one to watch Marriage Medicine. It's never.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I watched it for her.
Tamra Judge
Oh, you did?
Teddi Mellencamp
I absolutely watched it for Phaedra. And you know what? It's so funny because Phaedra was not herself there. It's funny because the. The environment that you're in is what will bring out whatever it is in you. You know what I mean?
Tamra Judge
Like, yeah, is Married to Medicine as shady and controversial and a lot of fighting like Housewives is.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yes, it's up there. It's just that they're not as well known as housewives. But yeah, they. They're. They. They do bring it, but they just don't have the.
Tamra Judge
I kind of thought maybe because they're doctors and they have this. This very professional career that maybe they couldn't get as deep and shady as.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, they get deep and shady. They get deep and shady.
Tamra Judge
They're.
Teddi Mellencamp
They're not, as I want to say, like, they're just a little bit more polished in a sense when they're doing it, but they are just as bad. Yeah.
Tamra Judge
All right, well, thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Two T's in a Pod.
Teddi Mellencamp
That was like a lot.
Tamra Judge
It was a lot. It was good though.
Teddi Mellencamp
It was so good.
Tamra Judge
Okay, Dolores, thank you. I miss you already.
Teddi Mellencamp
Missed you, miss you. See you soon. Okay, bye guys. Thank you again.
Dolores Catania
Bye.
Teddi Mellencamp
Bye.
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Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge Episode: Kiss and Tell (RHOA Recap) Release Date: May 28, 2025
Introduction
In the latest episode of Two Ts In A Pod, hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge dive deep into a comprehensive recap of The Real Housewives of Atlanta (RHOA). Skipping over the usual advertisements and promotional segments, Teddi and Tamra deliver an engaging discussion filled with insights, analyses, and lively banter that both seasoned fans and newcomers will appreciate.
Weekend Highlights and Personal Updates
The hosts begin by sharing personal anecdotes from a recent weekend spent with fellow Housewives, highlighting the camaraderie and memorable moments shared.
Tamra: “We had the best time ever. I mean, it was just, just enough time. We got in there, we hung out, we went to the festival. Bottle Rock.”
Teddi: “The music was awesome. The weather was amazing. We had Emily and Shane and Kelly, Ben, Simone and all the Bachelorettes.”
They discuss plans for an upcoming trip to Ireland, emphasizing the strong bonds formed among the cast members, especially the parents and their children.
Controversial Headlines and Legal Drama
A significant portion of the discussion centers around recent legal troubles involving Brittany Bateman, a prominent figure in RHOA.
Tamra: “Salt Lake City, Brittany Bateman has been sued for maliciously failing to pay back her mother-in-law $100,000 according to Page Six.”
Teddi: “Why a loan is just that—a loan. When you borrow money, you pay it back.”
Tamra breaks down the lawsuit details, explaining the allegations against Bateman regarding her mismanagement of an integrity trust established by her late father. The hosts debate the ethical implications and speculate on Bateman’s potential responses, expressing hope for a fair resolution.
Drama Between Erica Jane and Jesse Solomon
The episode shifts focus to the rumored romantic involvement between Erica Jane and Jesse Solomon, stirring rumors about possible backstage romances influencing on-screen dynamics.
Tamra: “Erica Jane and Jesse Solomon hooking up at what after a watch what happens live taping.”
Teddi: “She’s gonna rip him a new one. She’s going to get the bottom of it.”
The hosts analyze the potential impact of this development on future episodes, hinting at possible conflicts and alliances that may arise from this newfound relationship.
Season 16 Developments and New Cast Dynamics
Teddi and Tamra delve into the current season’s structure, including the introduction of new cast members and returning favorites like Phaedra.
Tamra: “Well, did you notice there's more flashbacks of Nene leaks? They come throughout the season, which leads me to believe that. Do you think they're setting... a return?”
Teddi: “I don't think so. Always very entertaining.”
They discuss the strategic inclusion of Phaedra’s character, her past controversies, and her recent return to the show, balancing fan expectations with the show's evolving narrative.
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Real Estate Troubles for Angela and Charles
A heated topic is Angela and Charles’ struggles with their investment properties, highlighting financial missteps and the pressure of managing multiple real estate ventures.
Tamra: “Charles just said, I don't f. with whores.”
Teddi: “The house sells itself. If it's priced right, it does not stick around.”
They critique Angela's real estate decisions, suggesting that overpriced properties and poor staging have led to prolonged market presence, adding strain to her and Charles’ relationship.
Brit’s Shapewear Launch Fiasco
Britney’s attempt to launch her shapewear line, "Bare and Naked," becomes a focal point of criticism due to a poorly organized country club event.
Tamra: “Why did they golf? Did anyone get food and then talk about it?”
Teddi: “She did not say so, everyone, I hope you like your sizes. Please let me know if you need to exchange.”
The hosts express frustration over the event’s execution, from the choice of venue to the lack of comprehensive organization, questioning Brit’s business acumen and promotional strategies.
Phaedra’s Return and Impact on the Cast
The dramatic return of Phaedra to RHOA is dissected, with Teddi and Tamra examining her influence on the existing dynamics and her interactions with other cast members.
Tamra: “Nobody throws shade like Phaedra. No one does.”
Teddi: “She does not. She's... She came straight from Married to Medicine.”
They applaud Phaedra’s ability to reignite tensions and alliances, anticipating that her presence will add a fresh layer of complexity to the show’s interpersonal relationships.
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Final Thoughts and Future Episodes
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the season’s progression, expressing excitement for upcoming episodes and the anticipated three-part reunion.
Tamra: “They have five more episodes and then the reunion.”
Teddi: “This is gonna be good. It’s been an entertaining season. These girls are great. Now Phaedra is going to add to it, so I am looking for more.”
They encourage listeners to stay tuned for the remaining episodes, promising more drama, revelations, and entertaining moments as the season heads toward its conclusion.
Conclusion
Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge deliver a nuanced and spirited recap of RHOA’s latest season, balancing personal anecdotes with sharp commentary on the show's dramatic developments. Their chemistry and insightful perspectives make this episode a must-listen for fans eager to stay updated on their favorite Housewives without missing out on the intricate details that drive the series’ enduring appeal.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Tamra Judge [05:25]: “Salt Lake City, Brittany Bateman has been sued for maliciously failing to pay back her mother-in-law $100,000 according to Page Six.”
Teddi Mellencamp [07:09]: “That's typically when you ask for it back when you need it. But a loan is just that—a loan.”
Tamra Judge [21:24]: “Nobody throws shade like Phaedra. No one does.”
Teddi Mellencamp [37:03]: “But she did say, which is very important for all of us to hear. She...”
These quotes encapsulate the hosts’ critical take on key issues discussed during the episode.