Late Life Lesbian (RHOBH Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: "Late Life Lesbian" (RHOBH Recap)

Release Date: December 19, 2025

EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode centers on Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge’s signature Housewives deep-dive—this week, recapping episode three of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Joined by Dolores Catania, the hosts discuss the show’s speed dating event, ongoing drama around divorces, friendship dynamics, and the prominence of “late life lesbian” storylines. The conversation weaves together scene-by-scene analysis, personal anecdotes, and wry observations on relationships, money, and personal growth.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

Opening Banter: Velour Sweatsuits & Gift Themes

Timestamps: 03:31 – 06:43

• The hosts kick off with a light conversation about matching in pink and the current comeback of velour sweatsuits.
• Tamra jokes about being a “Juicy” girl, while Dolores describes plans for gifting sweatsuits to friends for Christmas.
• A segue into holiday topics brings up cooking Italian soup and enjoying the togetherness of Tamra’s daughter and boyfriend.

RHOBH Recap: Speed Dating & New Connections

Timestamps: 06:46 – 13:16

• The hosts jump into their RHOBH recap, covering the speed dating event.
• Both agree Dorit stood out:
  • “She won’t be around long. She’s not going to be single forever…guys like her. She knows how to flirt and she’s engageable.” (Dolores, 07:18)
• Tamra notes the girls preferred one particular guy, Sebastian, while the men “all went for Dorit.”
• Personal anecdotes interweave with the analysis, like Dolores’s take on the confidence needed for dating:
  • “When I was single, I had confidence. I did not care. I couldn’t talk to anybody and I didn’t like walking…I never liked to double date…” (Dolores, 21:04)
• Erica’s dramatic speed dating entrance draws ribbing about her need for attention.

Divorce Drama: Money, Boundaries & Moving On

Timestamps: 07:51 – 13:16 & 19:09 – 22:25

• The ongoing topic of divorce runs through the episode, including:
  • Dorit and PK’s growing tension (“PK is getting nasty…she doesn’t need the aggravation…” Dolores, 08:08)
  • Kyle and Mauricio’s ambiguous separation (“She never really finishes, you know, she never describes things clearly. Everything is kind of code.” Dolores, 09:39)
  • The hosts discuss the “class act” way Kyle handles the situation, in contrast to Mauricio’s public antics.
• The women debate whether the whole season will revolve around divorce, expressing some fatigue and wishing for more closure rather than “coded” info.

Personal Growth, Dating, & “Late Life Lesbian” Trends

Timestamps: 26:05 – 28:44

• The episode title comes to the forefront as they discuss Kyle’s shift toward “soul connection over gender:”
  • “She realizes a lot about herself after her divorce and she is focusing on soul connection rather than gender in her partner.” (Tamra, 26:45)
• Dolores points to a generational trend:
  • “I get the late life lesbian stuff going on. You were the one telling me about the late life lesbian, right?” (Dolores, 27:33-27:40)
• The hosts agree that choosing happiness, regardless of societal norms, is key, with Tamra saying if she divorced Eddie, she’d “date a woman next.”

Annulments, Name Changes & Family Shifts

Timestamps: 33:23 – 38:53

• Sutton’s storyline shifts to the emotional fallout of receiving a Catholic annulment after her divorce:
  • Dolores provides context about annulments in the Catholic church and how it affect’s her children’s status (religiously, not legally).
  • “The only reason to do that is to get married to someone maybe younger who’s never been married before.” (Dolores, 38:22)
• The emotional toll this realization takes on Sutton is clear, with Dolores recognizing Sutton’s possible self-deception about having her ex “back anytime.”

Finances, “Girl Boss” Hustle & Skepticism

Timestamps: 39:16 – 44:54

• The hosts critique Amanda’s “spiritual money coaching,” with Boz (Bose) not buying into the vague advice.
• “She made a lot of money doing it. And I give her a lot of credit for that. I can’t take away from her.” (Dolores, 42:58)
• The women question whether discussing wealth (and boasting about it) signals real success, referencing Amanda's $30M claim and follower counts.
• Teddi is disappointed in the lack of practical financial advice:
  • “I left there no better than I was before I saw that scene.” (Dolores, 42:48)
• Both express an ongoing interest in learning from financially successful women—even if opinions are mixed on merit.

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MEMORABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

Notable Quotes

• “You know, what's the biggest turn on? Talk nice to me. Talk nice to me. Speak gently to me. Is that so hard?”
  (Dolores, 27:25)
• “Do not be ashamed if that's where you want to go if you've been divorced. Open up your dating to more than just men and do what you got to do, girls. And don't worry about what everyone else says because everyone deserves to be happy.”
  (Dolores, 28:23)
• “Well, she admitted she's not a financial advisor.”
  (Tamra, 42:54)
• "I want a huge New Year's Eve party. Oh, you want to come?"
  (Dolores, 22:27)

Funniest or Most Memorable Exchanges

• On speed dating men:
  "They almost act like they were doing them a fucking favor by being there." (Dolores, 18:07)
• On uncomfortable public affection:
  "Like, if you want me to melt as a girl, hug me from behind and talk to me in my ear, like, on my neck." (Dolores, 11:28)
  "Do you know that that makes me want to jump out of my skin? ... I literally want to, like, karate chop him right in the Adam's apple. Like, it's like a response that I have no control." (Tamra, 11:37)
• On divorce drama dragging all season:
  "Do you think we're going to be listening to everybody's about everybody's divorce problems the entire season?" (Tamra, 09:32)

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TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

| Time | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------| | 03:31 | Opening banter: pink outfits, sweatsuits, soup | | 06:46 | RHOBH Recap begins: speed dating | | 07:30 | Discussion of Dorit’s single status | | 09:39 | Divorce drama: Kyle & Mauricio, PK & Dorit | | 17:35 | Speed dating event analysis resumes | | 19:09 | Erika’s dating life scrutinized | | 21:31 | Dolores on her own wedding plans | | 26:05 | “Soul connection over gender”—Kyle’s journey | | 27:33 | “Late life lesbian” trend & anecdotes | | 33:23 | Sutton discusses changing her last name; annulment| | 39:16 | Lunch at Amanda’s; money coach skepticism | | 42:48 | Frustration with lack of practical money advice |

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OVERALL TONE & STYLE

The conversation is friendly, irreverent, and peppered with personal confessions and inside jokes. The hosts don’t shy away from critical opinions but always balance skepticism with support for women’s empowerment, growth, and happiness.

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SUMMARY

This episode blends reality TV recapping with candid chats about divorce, dating, finances, and personal fulfillment—highlighting the evolution of the Housewives cast as well as the hosts’ own lives. Tamra and Dolores’s commentary feels like a fun evening among girlfriends, filled with good-natured teasing, solid advice, and reflection on what it means to move on, reinvent oneself, and find joy—whether with men, women, or just fabulous velour sweatsuits.

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[Tamara Judge]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod.

[Dolores]

Hi, everyone.

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We are.

[Tamara Judge]

We are both dressed in pink today.

[Dolores]

Yeah, we didn't plan this.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well, I'm usually, like, black or brown or.

[Dolores]

Aviator Nation.

[Tamara Judge]

Aviator Nation. I got the new brown one from Aviator. Have you seen.

[Dolores]

So I. I did. Of course I did, but I didn't buy it. I bought a brown Sergio Takini sweatsuit.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Dolores]

Do you know?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I remember. No, I don't. But what's the price difference? Because Aviator is not cheap.

[Dolores]

It's not cheap either. This one. But it was on sale, and it is what the Sopranos used to wear. It's the velour sweatsuits.

[Tamara Judge]

Are they coming back?

[Dolores]

They're coming back. So my girlfriends and I, you ever see me, Theresa, Jenny, Eden, and a group of women, we go out to eat all the time. They're all my friends from, like, forever, some from high school, and we're going to an old place in Bloomfield, and, you know, the old Italian ladies are cooking in the kitchen and all that stuff, and we're wearing our Sergio Tacchini sweatsuit.

[Tamara Judge]

I loved a velour sweatsuit, but I was more on the juicy side of it. I wasn't in the mob side.

[Dolores]

This was around the time.

[Tamara Judge]

Was it?

[Dolores]

Yeah, somebody. So Liz McGraw from Housewives, you know, the Housewives of Rhode Island. Her husband bought one of them for Paul, and Paul's been wearing it every day.

[Tamara Judge]

Stop it. I need a picture. We need a picture of Paul and his velour sweatsuit.

[Dolores]

I'm gonna turn him Italian yet. Anyway, that's what I'm wearing. That's my next sweatsuit thing. And. And I actually, that's my theme for Christmas presents. I bought them all.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you on ltk?

[Dolores]

No, you're not.

[Tamara Judge]

You should be.

[Dolores]

Really?

[Tamara Judge]

You have cute outfits. Yeah, because you know how you post pictures of yourself out and about, and then people are like, what are you wearing? What Are you wearing. You know what I mean? So now it's just like you post your picture and then you just link what you're wearing. So Sophia, her boyfriend was over. They're so cute together.

[Dolores]

They really are.

[Tamara Judge]

I was wrapping presents in the other room and they were making. You might know the name of it. It's some kind of Italian soup. It had maybe. It had bacon in it. It had sausage in it. It had kale. Kale in it. Bacon, sausage, kale and potatoes. And it had some kind of like broth with a heavy cream in it.

[Dolores]

Oh, that sounds so good.

[Tamara Judge]

It was so good. But it was so cute to listen to them talk while they're, you know, making lunch is what they were doing. And I said, guys, why you're so happy? I said, guys, why don't we just go get Thai food? Let's go get Thai food. You don't need to make cook. And they're like, no, we. They enjoy cooking together. And as they're cooking and talking, it's so cute to listen to them. And he's like talking like, I'm going to teach my kids to do this. And I'm. It's just so cute. I'm like, oh, my God, my heart's not ready for this.

[Dolores]

I know. I love it.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. They're so cute. Okay, so we are going.

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[Tamara Judge]

Beverly Hills. They are back. We're going to recap. Episode three now. It starts off with speed dating.

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Did you ever.

[Tamara Judge]

Have you ever done that before?

[Dolores]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it's cute, though. It was cute. I liked it.

[Dolores]

The guys were not bad looking.

[Tamara Judge]

The guys were not bad looking. That one guy, I can't remember his name, but he had like an Australian accent or something. The girls seemed to like him, but it seemed like the guys really went for great.

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[Tamara Judge]

She's adorable.

[Dolores]

She won't be around long. She's not going to be single forever. She's not going to be single for a long time because guys like her. She knows how to flirt and she's. I like her. She's engageable.

[Tamara Judge]

She's super cute. She's super sweet. She's kind of soft spoken. If you talk to her in real life, she's cultured.

[Dolores]

She's lived in Italy. She speaks six different languages.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm shocked somebody hasn't picked her up already.

[Dolores]

She's not ready. She's. I would hate for her to meet the right guy now because it's the wrong time.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Dolores]

You know, when you're going through that, and, you know, you're talking. You're kind of not yourself. Your energy's not right. And then they're going to have to go through some of this shit with. Because her divorce is going to get worse before it gets better, especially since.

[Tamara Judge]

She has little kids.

[Dolores]

Yeah. And then it seems like PK is getting nasty because he didn't want them going to Florida, and they were having such a good time when they did finally go. But why do you give her a hard time about that? I don't know. I'm not gonna, you know, bad mouth him in any way. She doesn't need the aggravation of him hearing this and fighting with her over it. So I'm just gonna say right now they have a lot of stuff going on, and I don't think it's the actual right time to meet the right person.

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[Tamara Judge]

Well, she had said in a prior episode that he doesn't pay for anything. And then on this episode, she said he pays the house payment.

[Dolores]

Okay, well, that's nice. That's like, the other thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Expense anybody has.

[Dolores]

He's used to a very crazy lifestyle. Like, she likes expensive things. She's by far the best dress on the show. And, you know, my friend Lisa Giamarino pointed that out to me.

[Tamara Judge]

Lisa G. Marino. I love these names. What is your maiden name?

[Dolores]

Bagnola.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. Dolores bag with a spinola.

[Dolores]

No, spinola, like Spanish. Spanish name. Dolores Spagnola.

[Tamara Judge]

Spinola. Okay.

[Dolores]

Really? Spagnola? Yeah. My mom's maiden name's Demarco. All vowels, everywhere.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. That's funny. Do you think we're gonna be listening to everybody's about everybody's divorce problems the entire season?

[Dolores]

I really hope not. So I. Nothing against Kyle. I just don't understand. Like, she never really finishes, you know, she never describes things clearly. Everything is kind of code. It's kind of like she'll start it.

[Tamara Judge]

I think in one sense, she's like a class act. And she doesn't want to say too much about Mauricio. So she. She seems like she. They get along pretty good, don't you think? But she's not the one. Like, she's not having issues with him, like PK and Dorit, but, you know.

[Dolores]

I know I wouldn't expect that from him. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But he's out there hoeing around and taking pictures.

[Dolores]

I mean, that is 5,000 bracelets.

[Tamara Judge]

I. Oh, God, I hate that.

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[Tamara Judge]

That whole thing is, like, I would be annoyed. Probably would be enough for me to say something or the leather pants on the COVID of Listen People magazine or whatever.

[Dolores]

My heart went out to Kyle when he was at the airport and the girl was straddling him and he had his, like, hands with his bracelets holding up our little ass. And she was like a little blonde.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you really think he didn't know somebody was there with a picture?

[Dolores]

I don't even care because it hurt me. It hurt me. Like, I didn't want to say it. I didn't. No one's holding me up like, she's.

[Tamara Judge]

A nicer woman than me because I don't think that I would be so quiet about it, upset. And then do it, though. I guess it's just kind of trashy. But then I guess it's no different than me getting in a bathtub on.

[Dolores]

National TV with Eddie, because that's not trashy at all.

[Tamara Judge]

And there's nothing says trashy to that.

[Dolores]

There's been a few bathtub scenes. Remember Teresa and Joe Giudice? She hates that scene.

[Tamara Judge]

I hate the scene, too. For me, I don't remember Teresa's.

[Dolores]

But then there was Mauricio standing on the curb, and he was, like, doing like, I always, like, if you want me to melt as a girl, hug me from behind and talk to me in my ear, like, on my neck.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you know that that makes me want to jump out of my skin? Eddie does that to me all the time. And I have, like, really weird sensory issues with sound. So I try not to sit behind, like at a restaurant with anybody behind me talking. Or if anybody comes and talks by my ear. I know I do like it if somebody talks in my ear. I literally want to, like, karate chop him right in the Adam's apple. Like, it's like a. It's like a response that I have no control.

[Dolores]

I have to walk away. Well, this girl didn't look like she wanted a karate chop him, but she did look like his daughter. Like, at first I looked and I was like, oh, my dad never hugged me like that. And then I realized it wasn't one of her daughters.

[Tamara Judge]

So that's funny.

[Dolores]

Just saying.

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[Tamara Judge]

So the girls start the speed dating, meeting all the guys. Rachel says that since she was so she's always went for the guys that would be good for her.

[Dolores]

That wouldn't be good for her. And she said she has not grown out of it. Clearly.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I mean she her husband for 30 years so I think that was a pretty damn good run. Don't the lawyer?

[Dolores]

I felt like. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I felt like the lawyer guy. Who's cute. They were all cute. Everyone. Yeah, I don't think they were that nice.

[Tamara Judge]

You didn't think so? Why?

[Dolores]

I felt like they were a little cocky to the girls. Did I hear one of them say you're so pretty, you know, Dorit talking about her divorce. The other one's like, oh, my God, I can't get away from Mauricio. You're a realtor. There's 9 million realtors, Kyle. I know, but like, if I was those guys, I'm more man than most, but I would have been, like, complimenting them. I didn't see these guys trying. They almost act like they were doing them a fucking favor by being there. And I felt like the girls were so cute. But then there's the trick that Erica pulled where she was acting like, I like you, Erica. But I'm just gonna say she was acting like she was getting a drink and she was gonna, like, make her grand entrance as everybody was already in there. Like, did you expect everyone to drop and go, well, I would have. I mean, you look like a Barbie doll, but no one really did that either. But I mean, like, you. Were you that nervous to walk out? I mean, like Beau says, you walk out on stage, you sing in Chicago, and. And you can't walk out. Like you were waiting to walk out while.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, keep in mind, she has not been with her ex husband in years now. What's it been? A good three to four years. And we don't.

[Dolores]

How long before that?

[Tamara Judge]

And we don't see her with guys ever. There's no dating.

[Dolores]

They're a bodyguard who's cute.

[Tamara Judge]

It was in the press, but it's not on the show.

[Dolores]

Okay, so it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[Tamara Judge]

Right, right. But we don't see that part of her on the show. That's the part that I wish that we would see, like, so many people all over Kyle, about her dating life and nobody really talks to. It's in the trailer.

[Dolores]

It's in the trailer.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it is about Erica's dating.

[Dolores]

Yeah. I will tell you this. What? No one gets away with the Beverly. What? Beverly Hills gets away with. With not talking about their life.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Well, I think that Kyle's hands are tied. Like, she wants to talk about it, but the other person doesn't want to be mentioned.

[Dolores]

Okay, but that's fine. I get it. Because, you know, Totally get it. But yeah, that's still not okay in everybody else's world. It's just not.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, no, I see what you're saying. Like, they want to know. They want to see every part of your life.

[Dolores]

Yeah, no, that's really okay. The other person doesn't. A lot of people's. Other people don't want to be involved. How about I can name some boyfriends who don't want to be involved and yet people are, you know, told, then we have to rethink your status.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I can go on about that, but I'm gonna just shut it down right there. My thoughts on that. So all the guys wanted Dorit and all the girls wanted Sebastian. What are the chances that Dorit and Sebastian get together?

[Dolores]

I don't know. No one. No one floored me there. No one really floored me, however. Bose, I thought it was a super cute idea. I really loved how everybody was so cute and nervous. They were like, really, like, what should I wear? What am I doing? I mean, when I was single, I had confidence. I did not care. I couldn't talk to anybody and I didn't like walking. I never liked to double date if someone was introducing me to someone. When I met Paul, they were like the girl who was like, introducing us. I said, no. They're like, oh, we'll double date. I said, no, thank you. I'll meet on my own.

[Tamara Judge]

Any wedding planning going on on your side?

[Dolores]

No, because Frankie's getting married. Paul wants to have an intimate engagement party for family, you know, and that's a lot of people.

[Tamara Judge]

House, is Frankie getting married soon?

[Dolores]

So Frankie's getting married August 1st in Portugal.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, wow.

[Dolores]

Yeah. So it's a whole thing. I was speaking to my daughter in law last night. She's lovely. She's got beautiful taste. She's so sweet. And so we have that. And we have my niece, my goddaughter, Valerie d'. Ambrosio, and she's names. God. Valerie's a beautiful. They're both going to be beautiful brides. She's getting married the month before. Okay. So I have two very close to me weddings coming up and it's like, where do we fit in, me and Paul? What do we do?

[Tamara Judge]

Do you know what you want to do when it comes to a wedding?

[Dolores]

New Year's Eve. I want a huge New Year's Eve party. Oh, you want to come?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Dolores]

Well, that's not happening this year. But I'm saying maybe the year after. But I don't want to wait that long to get married. If I'm walking around engaged, I want to get married. Yeah. What do you think of that? Or Paul wants November 10th because that's a very special time for him. That's when we got engaged. He's very sentimental. I just learned this.

[Tamara Judge]

November 10th, that's like a whole year.

[Dolores]

No, but anyway, so this speed dating event goes well for Dory.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And I think she's gonna Date? I doubt she'll date any of these guys.

[Dolores]

Listen, it's. She. She should put her feet in the water, but I. I want for her to not meet the right person right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they should eventually put her, Kyle and Erica on that love hotel if they have another season. Actually, they can put the whole damn cast on there. Everybody but Bose.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Dolores]

No, I know, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Everyone's single on that show.

[Dolores]

I know. Well, how about them debriefing at the fire pit? And then Sutton says she liked Rick, and then Erica gives him. She goes, well, he liked me better, but here's his business card. You can have it.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. She's not really gonna call him.

[Dolores]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

The old bait and switch.

[Dolores]

Well, you know, it was like a nice peace offering.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, oh, I'm gonna give you my reject.

[Dolores]

Well, no, it's like, I'm gonna. It wasn't a reject, because she did take his card. Maybe she liked him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, and then she gave it away.

[Dolores]

Well, she thought she was being nice. It was like, could you imagine buying her a, like, evil eye necklace?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Tamara Judge]

It's like. Like this.

[Dolores]

But let's put it this way.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi, Rick. I was giving your card from Erica. Like, I know you chose her, but this is Sutton, and I want to go on a date with you.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Dolores]

It sounds like she's saying something brown. Something brown. I talk like that. And like, sutton, Sutton, Sutton. Smelly around here. Brown. No.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Dolores]

And listen, hey, you never know. Whatever. But, I mean, Erica really thought she was doing her a big favor.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Sutton had a good comeback, if you remember. She's like your first attorney husband. Didn't work out so well.

[Dolores]

Oh, she knocked her down without a punch. Right. And, I mean, it didn't take long after that for Erica to want to remove herself from sitting. And she said. That's when she said, a little while after, she's like, dorit, can we go talk? It was kind of weird, and it was kind of out of place. She just kind of, like, said that, like, let's go over and talk away from everyone.

[Tamara Judge]

It was really weird.

[Dolores]

I thought she was going to tell her off about something.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought she was mad.

[Dolores]

Yeah. See, if it was Potomac, they would have all gathered together and went with the walk and sat around, like, the schoolyard. But that's when we really find out how it's going with PK and her, and it doesn't sound great.

[Tamara Judge]

It doesn't sound great. It's not great. It's not then. Bo's asked Kyle if she had been in love after moving. Kyle says she has, but doesn't give anything. We know.

[Dolores]

We know.

[Tamara Judge]

Actually, we know that Bose is not going to give up on this. She is going to keep pushing and pushing to the point where Kyle says, what do you want to know? What do you want to know?

[Dolores]

Well, Kyle kind of like said, just ask me what you're trying to ask me. So if that. If you know what she's trying to ask you, why don't you just tell her I know. Well, she said, listen, I. She still made her ask. She still made her eyes.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Tamara Judge]

And she's like, I could date Brad or Angelina.

[Dolores]

So, okay, so another vague answer. I mean, like, I get it.

[Tamara Judge]

Which Kyle did say, she realizes a lot about herself after her divorce and she is focusing on soul connection rather than gender in her partner women.

[Dolores]

Okay, so let me talk to you for a second because at our age, when I find this is bleeding onto women much younger than us too, with women, it's here, then it's here and then it's there, right? And that is the fucking truth. And you know what? Looking back, that's just like me now. But, you know, I think there's a part of women that have always been like that. All I say is, you know, what's the biggest turn on? Talk nice to me. Talk nice to me. Speak gently to me. Is that so hard?

[Tamara Judge]

You know, it shouldn't be, that's for sure.

[Dolores]

But, you know, the woman can do that probably better than a man. So I get the late life lesbian stuff going on.

[Tamara Judge]

You are the one. You were the one telling me about the late life lesbian, right?

[Dolores]

Probably.

[Tamara Judge]

You telling me that somebody was telling.

[Dolores]

Me that recently, and then that they've seemed much happier. I learned it when I was at Traders with Gabby. Wendy Chrishell. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I think you're the one that told me. And it's so funny because I had told. We were talking about relationships and divorces and all that stuff, and I had told the kids, I go, well, I'll tell you what, if Eddie ever runs off or leaves me, I am not gonna. I'm not gonna involve the guy. I'm gonna date a guy.

[Dolores]

I get that. And Taylor Strackler. You know Taylor.

[Tamara Judge]

Mm.

[Dolores]

And her. Her wife. Now Taylor, they're having a baby. They're happy all the time because they.

[Tamara Judge]

Don'T have to deal with men.

[Dolores]

Women get women. So I'm just going to let everyone know, do not be ashamed if that's where you want to go if you've been divorced. Open up your dating to more than just men and do what you got to do girls. And don't worry about what everyone else says because everyone deserves to be happy.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

Sutton goes to Rachel's house. Sutton talks about potentially changing her last name back to her maiden name. Would you do that? You didn't do that. I didn't. It took me until I got married, three years after I married, just because my kids had the same last name and the kids were in school.

[Dolores]

When they're in school, it gets kind of like, yeah, but later in life.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, her kids are grown now.

[Dolores]

Catania is a pretty name.

[Tamara Judge]

So it is a pretty name.

[Dolores]

So here's the thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you changing it when you get married?

[Dolores]

I'm marrying a man. Who would expect that. Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Wait, what's his last name again?

[Dolores]

Connell. Connell.

[Tamara Judge]

That's why I knew that. So you're going to go from an Italian to a Irish?

[Dolores]

Irish. As it gets. I was like, oh, maybe I'll hyphenate. Paul was like, he's like, hell, no.

[Tamara Judge]

Why would you.

[Dolores]

That name is, you know, I'm basically marrying a Viking. So he's like, very manly. Like, he's not like, how's Frank doing?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Tamara Judge]

Big Frankie's doing good.

[Dolores]

I just, I spoke to him yesterday. I love Britney. She's so cute. He's doing well. He wants to move to Florida. That's his goals right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Really? Is he concerned? I know he opened up a cannabis business and there's a lot of things going on right now with that. We're dealing with it ourselves.

[Dolores]

He has eight licenses. He's been working on them for over 10 years.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but they might change the laws. Yeah, they're working on changing the laws to make it a. Something like a Class 3 drug. But then, I don't know, it's. It's scary times. Scary times.

[Dolores]

So.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, he's put a lot of people out of business.

[Dolores]

Yeah. So Frank's not. Yeah, he did mention that to me. He's worried. He's worried. I. I'm like, you know, you'll figure it out, Frank. You always do.

[Tamara Judge]

I think they're just gonna make stricter laws. I think we'll be fine, but there's gonna make some. There's a lot of cowboys in this industry and people not doing it the legal way. And I, I do agree that some of them need to be weeded out. But not the good ones.

[Dolores]

No puns. Weed it out. Weed it out.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but not the good ones.

[Dolores]

No, but. But as you notice here, Sutton was talking like, I could have him back anytime. I think she lied to herself about that because when she got her.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yes, let's talk about that.

[Dolores]

She said, Sutton said, oh, you know, I think I'm gonna change my name. And Rachel speaks very well to the girls. I think she's a nice addition. She seems like the. She seems very level headed and like she's been in therapy a long time. Like, she knows how to. She has good advice. She's good girl advice. And she just like, she's like, it's okay. And then she'll explain why it's okay. I like, I like, I don't mind listening to her. So, you know, so Signs said something like, I could have him back. I, you know, till now, I don't know if she said, I thought.

[Tamara Judge]

She said she thought.

[Dolores]

She thought I could have him back anytime she wants. Did you lie to yourself, Sutton? So Sutton finds out that her marriage has been annulled. Now, in the Catholic religion, if you get married in a Church, Right. What you do there, it goes through the Vatican. It's not like you just show up at a church like you do in Vegas. You know about all this, right?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, It's.

[Dolores]

It's. Now it's seen in the eyes of. Of the Catholic Church as a marriage. If you want to get married in a church ever again, you have to get that annulled. But then now that means that your kids are not recognized in the Catholic Church as children that were born from a legal marriage in the Catholic Church. You get what I'm saying?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dolores]

So, like, you know, because Frank Catania got divorced before I met him, and he had to get his marriage annulled because when I started dating him at 18, the first thing my mother said to him was, is your marriage annulled?

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't know you can get annulled for those reasons. I thought it was one of those, like, there was a time period, like, you go, you get drunk, you get married to some stranger in Vegas, and then you have, like, a month to annul it. That's what I thought it was for.

[Dolores]

Well, it's not legally, you could do that. But this is a religious thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know that.

[Dolores]

So this doesn't even matter about anything legal. This is like. Like Jewish people have a get. That's a big deal to get that. Like, that's not easy. You just don't sign up and get it done. So anyway, it knocked her for a loop. I felt bad because then she was like, oh, it came in. It came in my last name. Is that how she found out her wedding. Her marriage was annulled? I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I think it just came in the mail.

[Dolores]

So why would her husband.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought she was divorced and everything was done.

[Dolores]

Doesn't divorce legally, but in the Catholic Church, she was considered still married. Get my point?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, so then they had to do. He had to.

[Dolores]

An annulment has. In the Catholic Church has nothing to do with legally being divorced.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think that he wants to get remarried?

[Dolores]

The only reason. Yeah, the only reason to do that is to get married to someone maybe younger who's never been married before.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, no. Oh, Sutton.

[Dolores]

Oh, no, girl. I think.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you. Amanda's house? Did you see Amanda's house? You know, she did an amazing job with that remodel. I loved it. I loved it.

[Dolores]

Yeah, it was amazing.

[Tamara Judge]

It was beautiful.

[Dolores]

I love that style.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that's much like my house, but that house is much bigger but naturally natural.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Tamara Judge]

It's so pretty. I just was obsessed with it.

[Dolores]

Obsessed.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So I want to see. There's got to be a scene where Kyle walks through that house. There has to be, because, you know, her and Mo lived there for quite a while.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Tamara Judge]

So Bose and Dori get lunch with Amanda. Bo's asked about her.

[Dolores]

I wouldn't want to walk through it. I'm not good like that.

[Tamara Judge]

You're not good?

[Dolores]

Oh, I. I don't like past stuff.

[Tamara Judge]

Really? You are not sentimental whatsoever or you don't like dealing with the emotion?

[Dolores]

I don't like dealing with the emotion.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so that's sentimental.

[Dolores]

I won't have pictures up. I don't look at pictures of my kids younger. I don't want to see them.

[Tamara Judge]

Such a complicated person, Dolores.

[Dolores]

God, just make things believe things didn't happen. Like, the kids never grew up. I never saw their baby pictures.

[Tamara Judge]

So funny. So Amanda. Let's talk about Amanda.

[Dolores]

I look so ugly today.

[Tamara Judge]

Speaking of Bose just does.

[Dolores]

So fucking ugly.

[Tamara Judge]

So funny. Bose is not buying her motivational speaking.

[Dolores]

When she started talking, I was like, the fuck did she just say?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Bo's asked about her career. Amanda tells her that her work focuses on the spiritual side of money. And I thought that Bose was going.

[Dolores]

To start laughing, so she got more aggravated. Then she started laughing. However, the weirdest thing came through my head. I swear I thought this. I'm like, did this one get famous during COVID Because a lot of people got famous during COVID that probably wouldn't have gotten famous whether. If there wasn't Covid. Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

There was a lot. And Eddie and I were talking about this a while ago. This has nothing to do with Amanda, but there was a lot of people out there selling stuff and selling ideas and selling packages. How to get rich, how to do this and how to do that. And they really cracked down on them. How to sell real estate, how to do this. How did. They were selling little packages and Eddie was saying they were cracking down, like legally on these people. So when she said that she, like her, she focused on the spiritual side of money. I just went home and Jit says when she left pk, he controlled all the money, which is not uncommon. A lot of times when you're married for a while, the guys control of, you know, pay the bill, I don't want to pay the bills. And then he suddenly decided to stop paying for her expenses without any prior agreement. And then so they're talking about her financials and Amanda's like, well, you Know what you got to do is you got to get spiritual. What? I can't remember what she said. With your money.

[Dolores]

And she said, you have to figure out what place you want to play in your financial. What the fuck? Bose was like, I don't know if she wanted to punch her in the face or flip the table. I don't know. But Bose, was it like she really.

[Tamara Judge]

Amanda really knows what she's talking about when it comes to money, or she's just one of this.

[Dolores]

Not at this time.

[Tamara Judge]

No, not right now. It didn't sound like it, but I.

[Dolores]

Want to walk away from a situation. And this is a lot of the reason younger women watch us. This is a lot of the reason other women watch to learn something from what we're going through at the time. Because somebody could always relate. I wanted to. I am looking to learn a lot about my finances, my own. Like, I'm at a position in my life right now where I want to know what to do with my money. And Paul can tell me, but I want to learn myself. So I was really fucking. I was here for it. I was like, yeah, look at this girl's house. She must know what she's talking about. She has a rich as fuck book. And I want to see this. And she. And I left there no better than I was before I saw that scene.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, she admitted she's not a financial advisor.

[Dolores]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

What is she?

[Dolores]

Whatever it is, she made a lot of money doing it. And I give her a lot of credit for that. I can't take away from her.

[Tamara Judge]

She made a lot of money because she told you.

[Dolores]

Well, she's living it. Where's that money? Is it his? I live in a big house.

[Tamara Judge]

What he does.

[Dolores]

She's rich as fuck. She said.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we all know that when people brag and talk about how rich they are. I mean, I hate to throw Wendy into this, but that's all she would talk about is money. And now, you know, we know what they're facing. So sometimes I feel like it's the ones that are constantly talking about money that don't really have the money.

[Dolores]

Well, she has to have something because she's living really good over there.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not saying she doesn't have money. I don't know. I don't know her financial situation. Situation.

[Dolores]

I'm just getting to know her. I want to get to know her better before I can say she's good for me to listen to, to learn about my finances.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, she did claim I'm hearing that her business made $30 million. So just from the coaching programs.

[Dolores]

Okay, so maybe it's good. Wow. Last night was not a good commercial for her business.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, how much are her coaching programs?

[Dolores]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

And does she have a huge following on social media?

[Dolores]

I don't know, but I feel like.

[Tamara Judge]

These girls, I need statistics. I would need to know how many followers she has.

[Dolores]

She has 554,000 followers.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, that's good. So she started her career out just taking pictures on social media. So she was like an influencer and then she built that. I mean, I love a girl that is motivated.

[Dolores]

She's 16,000 on TikTok.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, I love a. I love a hustler.

[Dolores]

Listen, I'm not gonna take away from her. She's made it, clearly has made money and she knew what to do with it. And I was hoping she'd share with everybody else what to do with it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, maybe she advice. I don't need spiritual advice on my money. Well, we will find out. We're only on what episode, three or four.

[Dolores]

I am here to learn from her everything she can teach me. And I'm not gonna. I'm gonna still listen. Even after last night.

[Tamara Judge]

Settle down.

[Dolores]

I'm gonna still listen.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, dear Lord. All right, well, thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores.

[Dolores]

That was fun. Thank you.

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[Dolores]

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