Legally Brunette: Diddy Trial - Week 2

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Title: Legally Brunette: Diddy Trial - Week 2
Host/Authors: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Released: May 25, 2025
Description: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge team up to “Tell All,” discussing and dissecting the latest episodes of The Real Housewives. In this episode, they delve into the second week of the high-profile Diddy trial.

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Introduction

In the second week of the Diddy trial, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, alongside special guest Dolores Catania, navigate through intense testimonies, legal maneuvers, and emerging details of the case. Their analysis provides listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the complexities surrounding Sean “Diddy” Combs and Cassie Ventura’s tumultuous relationship and subsequent legal battles.

Overview of the Diddy Trial Week 2

Emily Simpson, the host, sets the stage for the episode by outlining the significant developments of the second week of the trial. The discussion primarily revolves around the testimonies of key witnesses, the strategies employed by both prosecution and defense, and the broader implications of the case.

Key Testimonies

Expert Witness: Dr. Don Hughes ([17:31])

Dr. Don Hughes, a renowned psychologist, testified for the prosecution. Despite being labeled as an expert witness due to her extensive experience, she has no direct personal history with either party involved in the trial.

Emily Simpson [17:35]: "She's an expert witness. She's actually referred to as an expert of experts. She also testified in Johnny Depp's case...”

Kid Cudi’s Testimony ([34:09])

Rapper Kid Cudi (Scott Mascudi) provided crucial testimony, highlighting threats made by Diddy against him during their brief relationship. Cudi recounted an incident where his car was set on fire with a Molotov cocktail, alleging that Diddy confronted him threateningly.

Emily Simpson [34:19]: “Kid Cudi testifies Kid Cudi had a relationship with Cassie Ventura...”

Regina Ventura’s Testimony ([37:30])

Cassie Ventura’s mother, Regina Ventura, shared heartbreaking details about the threats imposed by Diddy, including financial extortion and physical intimidation to safeguard Cassie’s safety.

Regina Ventura [37:30]: “Combs threatened to release explicit videos involving Cassie as well as to harm Cassie and Cudi unless he was provided with $20,000.”

Hotel Manager Frederick Zamore’s Testimony ([40:21])

Frederick Zamore, General Manager of Laramatage Hotel in Beverly Hills, testified about Diddy’s peculiar hotel stay habits, including frequent name changes and specific room requests.

Frederick Zamore [40:21]: “The hotel profile originally created in Combs' name in 2006 underwent several name changes over the years…”

Makeup Artist Milo Morales’ Testimony ([42:48])

Milo Morales, a former makeup artist, testified witnessing injuries on Cassie Ventura during a Grammy weekend, reinforcing claims of physical abuse by Diddy.

Milo Morales [42:48]: “I saw Cassie with visible injuries during the Grammys weekend in 2010...”

Vin Armani’s Denial ([53:42])

Vin Armani, known as “The Punisher” from the series Gigolos, publicly denied any involvement in the alleged incidents, claiming misidentification.

Vin Armani [53:42]: “I was never part of any freak offs. It’s a case of mistaken identity.”

Missing Witness Gina ([55:06])

The prosecution highlighted the absence of Gina, victim number three, whose testimony is pivotal in establishing the breadth of Diddy’s alleged criminal enterprise.

Emily Simpson [55:06]: “Gina is out of the case.”

Male Sex Workers’ Testimonies ([47:09])

Several male sex workers provided testimonies detailing orchestrated sexual encounters directed by Diddy, aiming to substantiate the prosecution’s RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) claims.

Punisher [47:09]: “Diddy instructed me not to acknowledge him during these encounters...”

Legal Strategies

Defense’s Approach

The defense is actively undermining the credibility of Cassie Ventura by highlighting her financial settlements and questioning her motives. They suggest that the monetary payouts influenced her testimony and career decisions.

Emily Simpson [25:01]: “The attorneys for Diddy highlighted the details of two financial settlements involving Cassie...”

Prosecution’s RICO Case

The prosecution is leveraging the RICO Act to portray Diddy’s activities as part of a systematic criminal enterprise, involving multiple victims and orchestrated illegal activities beyond personal abuse.

Dolores Catania [22:55]: “It’s a business...”

Discussion on Domestics Violence and Trauma Bonding

Dolores Catania emphasizes the psychological aspects of why victims like Cassie stay in abusive relationships, countering common misconceptions that victims simply choose to remain.

Dolores Catania [60:49]: “When something like that happens to them, their self-worth is so far gone.”

Comparison with the Menendez Case

The hosts draw parallels between the Diddy trial and the Menendez brothers’ case, highlighting societal misunderstandings of trauma and the complexity of victims’ decisions in abusive scenarios.

Emily Simpson [60:22]: “They were abused and controlled for so long, free...”

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Teddi, Tamra, and Dolores wrap up the episode by reflecting on the emotional and legal intricacies of the Diddy trial. They express hope for the discovery and testimony of missing witnesses like Gina and underscore the importance of understanding the psychological trauma endured by victims.

Dolores Catania [65:57]: “Your reputation was harmed...”

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Notable Quotes:

• Dolores Catania [60:49]: “When something like that happens to them, their self-worth is so far gone.”
• Emily Simpson [25:01]: “If you could reverse the abuse, you would return the money.”
• Dolores Catania [37:33]: “He just wanted to torture them. And he did.”
• Vin Armani [53:42]: “I was never part of any freak offs. It’s a case of mistaken identity.”

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Conclusion

This episode of Two Ts In A Pod provides an in-depth analysis of the second week of the Diddy trial, shedding light on the multifaceted legal strategies, personal testimonies, and societal issues surrounding domestic abuse and trauma bonding. Teddi Mellencamp, Tamra Judge, and Dolores Catania offer listeners a nuanced perspective, encouraging a deeper understanding of the complexities involved in high-profile legal cases.

Transcript

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[Emily Simpson]

Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Legally Brunette. I'll be your host, Emily Simpson with my co host. And today we have a special guest. If you're a Real Housewife fan, you will know Dolores. I don't even need to say the last name.

[Dolores Catania]

Thank you.

[Emily Simpson]

Dorothy, how's it going?

[Dolores Catania]

I'm so excited to be with you. I have not been away with you in a long time. I was talking last night and I said our last time we were together together was Andy's baby shower.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And then, you know, briefly at BravoCon. But that's just great.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, you don't have time to socialize at BravoCon. It's in passing. Right. Hi. It's good to see you.

[Dolores Catania]

It's three days of running.

[Emily Simpson]

It is.

[Dolores Catania]

Are we excited for this? Yeah.

[Emily Simpson]

You know, I mean, it's a lot of work, but I enjoy it. You know, I'll tell you why I enjoy it. Maybe you agree with me. A lot of times when you film Housewives, the only feedback you get is from social media. And we talked about this yesterday. And when you get feedback from social media, let's be honest, 95 of it is negative.

[Dolores Catania]

I know, right. But you know, it's really. Social media is a very small drop in the bucket.

[Emily Simpson]

It is, it is.

[Dolores Catania]

So when I first started, I remember Noah saying that to me. I forget what the issue was with social media at the time.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And any of you who don't know Noah, we know him. He's the big boss. He's the big shot. So I remember him saying, it's just a really small portion of the people that watch the show because everyone that watches it, of course my mother watches the show. She's not commenting. Well, now she is.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah. Yeah. But I think that was the point of Bravo Con for me is that a lot of times the only feedback you get is on social media.

[Dolores Catania]

Right, right. So you're saying you got to really be with everybody.

[Emily Simpson]

And it's so nice to just have so many fans that are like, I love the show. I love you. How's your mother in law?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Emily Simpson]

How's Annabelle doing? And you're like, oh, people do watch it and just enjoy it and then go to bed.

[Dolores Catania]

I know.

[Emily Simpson]

It's nice to see that's Nice. It's nice to get a lot of positive feedback. So I really enjoy Bravo Con. So. All right, anyway, let's go into. We're going to start with a little update on Lively and Baldoni. I thought this was really interesting because as we talked about last time we did an update, Taylor Swift was subpoenaed in this case, who wanted no part of this, who absolutely wanted nothing to do with.

[Dolores Catania]

I heard that they weren't even friends anymore because she was dragged into it.

[Emily Simpson]

Yes. I believe, you know, of course, that's just the rumor mill, but I've read a lot of articles that allude to the same, that they're not even speaking. They're not friends anymore. So recently, Baldoni's attorney, whose name is Brian Friedman, he filed, I thought this was interesting. He filed an affidavit and affidavit is his own account of something that happened and it was sworn under penalty of perjury. And he basically, I read it and he basically said that someone from Taylor Swift's case camp called him. He spoke to them for about an hour. He wouldn't disclose who it was in this affidavit. And basically they gave him information that Blake Lively's attorney had reached out to Taylor Swift's attorney and basically said, you need to post something on social media in support of Blake Lively. If you don't, we're going to release 10 years worth of text, text messages between the two of you. So this is what he put in an affidavit.

[Dolores Catania]

I did not hear that.

[Emily Simpson]

Yes. And so he filed it with the court. Then he was pretty much reprimanded by the judge who basically said, we're going to remove that from the filings. That's nothing more than like you filing something to get clickbait and to like, you know, create a contentious relationship between these two high power people. Did you, did you hear about this?

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And then after that stuff, though, Emily.

[Emily Simpson]

Yes. So then. But here's my thing. Brian Freeman is a very high powered, intelligent attorney. I've said multiple times, if I am ever sued, the first person I'm calling is Brian Freeman.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, that. Well, that's a very no doubt statement to make coming from you, who's an attorney, like no doubt about it.

[Emily Simpson]

So, you know, there's no way that he's lying. He clearly got a phone call. He was clearly told this information. I understand the judge is trying to keep all this extra gossip out of.

[Dolores Catania]

It because that's a big. That's not extra gossip. That's Actually a threat.

[Emily Simpson]

It is. It's a threat. It's a threat. And now we know that the subpoena has been withdrawn from Taylor Swift. So now she is not compelled to testify. I don't think it has anything to do with that situation.

[Dolores Catania]

I. I believe she should be.

[Unknown]

Does that mean withdrawn by Friedman? Not. Not dismissed by the right.

[Emily Simpson]

It was withdrawn by Brian Friedman. So Baldoni's side withdrew the subpoena. I think it's because they got what they wanted.

[Dolores Catania]

Right? Yeah, exactly.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, whatever information they're looking for for the trial, maybe they did get copies of text messages. Maybe she did give over some information.

[Unknown]

So you're saying they may not need her to testify, Right?

[Dolores Catania]

I'm saying that maybe there was like a side deal, which, you know, in court, happens all the time. We'll just leave me alone. I don't need to be dragged into this. And quite frankly, having. I feel like having Taylor Swift there and don't you agree would take the attention off of what's really going on?

[Emily Simpson]

Oh, absolutely.

[Dolores Catania]

It's not gonna hurt. It's not gonna help either side.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. So I think, in my opinion, I think Taylor Swift provided whatever information they were looking for or enough information that they feel like they have what they need, and that's why the subpoena was dropped. So now we know that she's not going to testify unless she's compel again at some point anyway.

[Dolores Catania]

I doubt it.

[Emily Simpson]

That's Lively and Baldoni.

[Dolores Catania]

But that was so I could be done now.

[Emily Simpson]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, that was so good. That was a little present you gave me. I didn't know that was going on. I've been busy. Right.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, tell me, because we haven't talked about this. What is your impression of Blake Lively? Because I went into researching this case. Very neutral. I. I didn't have an opinion whether.

[Dolores Catania]

You could have cared less about him.

[Emily Simpson]

I didn't even know really who Justin Baldoni was to watch the movie. I didn't really care one way or the other. I did. I read all of the filings multiple times. And my takeaway was, and we've talked about this, and Blake Lively is a horrible person. That was my takeaway.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, a lot of people say that. You know, I've seen how she treats other people outside of this.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And I'm a big person on. I'll judge you on how you treat people.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

And there was one instance where they. They showed a. She was in an interview with a young girl like a lot of people look up to, even Us, you know, we're not a listers, but they, they can.

[Emily Simpson]

You can really hurt Dolores.

[Dolores Catania]

What do you say? No, I'm just saying. But we haven't, like, we could hurt somebody's feelings with being nasty to them.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And this girl goes, congratulation on your bump. And she goes, and congratulations on yours.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And you know what? Who are you? You made the girl feel bad. She was just trying to make conversation. Make conversation. That was enough for me. But I. I never like, liked her as an actress. You know, her affect, it looks like she's thinking before she talks. I mean, that's just the way she talks. But yeah, I was never overly impressed by her. And I mean, I'm sure he's kicking himself in the ass because this was his big time and his big break. And I feel very bad. You know, he could. Even the day of the premiere, he had to be in the basement with his family.

[Emily Simpson]

He was banned to the basement.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, he was for like two hours while all this was going on.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

You know what I think? Do you want to know what I think?

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah, I want to know what you think.

[Dolores Catania]

I think that she was like falling for him. She was like texting him, you know, up in the middle of the night nursing and. Oh, yeah. And I think her husband got a wind of it.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And I think then she had to put it on him. Like, he's talking to me. And then I think Brian Reynolds came on the set and caused all types.

[Emily Simpson]

You know, I think that's a reasonable conclusion because I've thought the same thing. I thought maybe the relationship got like, she wanted more out of it or she was attracted to him. And then we do know that Ryan Reynolds was showing up on the set and watching the dailies and you could tell there was chemistry between them. And maybe he got upset about that. And the way she shifted the blame was, well, he does this, says inappropriate things. And then Ryan Reynolds was like, well, then we have to pursue it. We have to sue him. He can't act like that. And now it's snowballed. Completely out of control, I think.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. And. And you know, that's not just my opinion. That's been the opinion. I've seen it. It just seems like a familiar story. And I hate to draw a conclusion to something. I was not there. I don't know anything about. None of her friends told me this. I don't know about it, but I'm just thinking, what do you think?

[Unknown]

You're saying that's a possibility, Right?

[Dolores Catania]

I'm just saying that's a possibility.

[Unknown]

We don't know. But you're saying it. This is a reasonable outcome.

[Dolores Catania]

I feel like there was, you know, and this is, I'm also drawing that conclusion to myself by things that Jason Baldoni said. Like, I'm reading through the.

[Unknown]

Yeah. And then even if, even if it is accurate, as you say, which it may very well be, it just shows that Ryan was kind of inserting himself. I mean, they didn't handle it well. If that was the case, if Ryan said, hey, what are you doing? Why are you talking to him late? And I, I mean, this is how they handle it. They go and attack and sue.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, there's smear campaign and, and there's egos involved.

[Unknown]

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[Dolores Catania]

And you know, but that's what I'm.

[Unknown]

Saying is a terrible way to handle it.

[Dolores Catania]

When a jealous man, you know, whenever there's a. We know, like passion involved, it's not rational. Like, emotions are not rational. So there was, you know, whatever, like here, I could go on to this whole thing. But yeah, I'll stop there. That's just what I thought.

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[Emily Simpson]

All right, let's move on to the Diddy trial. We've done other episodes on Diddy, so if you're listening to this for the first time, you want to go back, I would suggest going back and listening to our previous episodes. So we were on Diddy trial of week two. Here's one of the things I just wanted to start with because I thought this was interesting. So Dr. Don Hughes, who is a psychologist, testified for the prosecution and she's called a blind expert. Expert. And that means that she's testifying on their behalf. However, she doesn't. She doesn't really know firsthand experience with either.

[Dolores Catania]

She's never had them as a patient. She's not involved at all.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

She's an expert witness.

[Emily Simpson]

She's an expert witness. She's actually referred to as an expert of experts. She also testified in Johnny Depp's case. The Amber Heard Johnny Depp. She testified in R. Kelly. So she's clearly well known as an expert. Obviously, prosecution has her testifying because the defense is going to say Cassie, who was in this 10 year relationship with Diddy, was there because she wanted to be there.

[Dolores Catania]

Her own will.

[Emily Simpson]

Her own will. She wasn't coerced. She wasn't manipulated. She was there of her own free will. She could have left at any time. She could have broken up with him.

[Dolores Catania]

I really don't see.

[Zoe Saldana]

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[Dolores Catania]

I mean.

[Emily Simpson]

Right, but I'm saying that's what the defense is going to go with. Right. So she testified. I thought. I was wondering what your opinion is on that. When someone comes in as an expert and they don't know the parties, but they're just testifying to the relationship, like a trauma bond from what they say.

[Unknown]

Who called her to testify? What. What part?

[Dolores Catania]

Was it the defense or prosecution?

[Emily Simpson]

So the prosecution is having her testify as to, like, the state of Cassie's mind, why she stayed with him so long. Because they're going to try. Because the defense is going to challenge that. Right. They're going to say she could have left at any time.

[Unknown]

Well, she could have left, but she didn't want to die.

[Dolores Catania]

The defense challeng that all they want. I've been around domestic violence my whole entire life, and I can tell you, and until this day, I work with. With women of domestic abuse. And it's just. It's not only in women. It could be in. In relationships, period. There's. There's so much different. There's mental abuse, there's physical abuse. She had both.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

Um. So, yeah, I mean, I can understand why the prosecution called her in, because a lot of people don't understand why she stayed if I understand why she stayed, I mean, besides what we saw. But she even went back at times. Like, I think when they had the. He had the meeting with. Was it kid cudi?

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And she. They sit down, they make amends, and then at some point, it's like a freaking movie. Diddy has her come in to stand behind him and be like, well, I'm here now. And like, kid cudi was like. He goes, I was actually surprised that she was there and went back. But, I mean, there's so many layers to this. You know, somebody of domestic violence will justify what they're doing to her. Like, she. And then you become like, stockholm syndrome, and then you're afraid. I mean, in a typical domestic violence case, sometimes the neighbors call the cops, right?

[Emily Simpson]

If.

[Dolores Catania]

But in this case, the cops. He owns the cops. He owned the judges. He owned everybody. She watched people around her die. She watched him bring guns to someone's house to unwrap their christmas presents and. And almost kill him. Kid Cudi.

[Emily Simpson]

Right, right, right.

[Dolores Catania]

And blow up his car with a mazel tov cocktail. She watched all this, right? And then in her mind, she was now a prisoner to him because after being beaten, after being used as a sex slave, after being drugged for so many years, she probably in her mind said, who's going to want me? Where am I going?

[Emily Simpson]

So you're saying it's the deterioration of any self worth is how he.

[Dolores Catania]

There's no self worth on a much lower case than this extreme case of domestic violence.

[Unknown]

I agree with everything you said. I, the way I saw it, although you might be very well correct, was simply there's, you know, if I stay, I get beat up.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Unknown]

Or I get abused or I get mistreated but if I leave it might even be even worse. He might come after me, right. Or like you now you added the factor of I'm, I'm not worth anything. Who's going to want me?

[Dolores Catania]

Who's going to want me?

[Unknown]

Maybe the next guy will treat me just the same. And here at least I have a roof over my head.

[Dolores Catania]

That is a common trait. And even somebody who's even molested, it's been like a lot of times it's, well, why not? It's already been done to me so why not be this way or this is my life, this is my life. I have no self worth. It's a, it's a, it's a horrible deterioration of someone's like soul. Basically like that. Basically he just slammed her soul on the ground. She was an 18 year old girl coming into this. She was the one, she was 18.

[Unknown]

At the start of their relationship.

[Emily Simpson]

Now the issue in this case is not domestic violence because we know that's happening. What the prosecution has to has the burden of proving is rico which is racketeering and also sex trafficking. So that's where the burden's really going to lie on the prosecution side. We were talking about this this morning is in order to prove a RICO case you have to prove that there's a criminal enterprise. So that's what the prosecution is doing. That's why they're bringing forward all these witnesses. They have their job, you know, that are people at hotels so that they can testify to establish that Diddy had a criminal enterprise in order to have these freak offs. It's not just like he has weird sexual fantasy.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. That's not against the law right now on that.

[Emily Simpson]

You can be weird, you can be weird, you can, you can have whatever is not illegal.

[Unknown]

To be weird.

[Emily Simpson]

It's not illegal.

[Dolores Catania]

Or to have a fetish.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. To have weird. Well in some states it is but what we have, what they have to prove is that it's a criminal enterprise. So what is your thought on that, on the criminal enterprise aspect of it?

[Unknown]

Well, I think that's a way to get further sentencing. Right. And more charges against them and then I think they can seize a Lot of the assets and the victims can go after the whole criminal enterprise. So.

[Emily Simpson]

But to you, is it a criminal enterprise if you have assistants who are, okay, setting up these freak offs and they're putting the lighting up and they're hiring the secret workers.

[Unknown]

They're flying them out. They're organizing it. They're flying them out. They're paying them. Who's cutting them the check they're putting up in house?

[Dolores Catania]

So it is. Yeah, it's a business.

[Unknown]

Yeah, it's.

[Dolores Catania]

But, but, but does that fall under criminals still?

[Unknown]

Because, well, I think in lay terms, it's. The enterprise is furthering the criminal activity.

[Dolores Catania]

Right?

[Emily Simpson]

Okay.

[Unknown]

So you can't disguise it. Diddy can't sit up there on his throne and say, I didn't pay them. I didn't make the phone call. I didn't fly him out here. They did. Well, they work for you. They're part of your company, right? And you benefited from the criminality.

[Dolores Catania]

You were the boss.

[Emily Simpson]

He was the boss.

[Unknown]

So therefore, your hands are no less dirty.

[Dolores Catania]

Just like so in the mob, right? The boss gives the orders, Right.

[Unknown]

But doesn't touch anything.

[Dolores Catania]

Right, but he doesn't touch anything. He's already a made guy. If he's the boss, he's already a made guy, Right? So now you have all his soldiers underneath him, right? Who. And here we talk about the RICO Act. That's what actually brought down the mob, right? So when you're looking at letters instead of numbers, people start to talk and people start to roll on you. Like, if you're looking at life instead of 25 years or 20 years, now all of a sudden, it's a different story, right? So having that in front of you all, all of a sudden, they're like, well, I'm gonna die anyway in jail, so why don't I just roll the dice and see if I could rat him out and have him go for me, Right? We'll see.

[Emily Simpson]

All right. So also during testimony, I thought this was interesting because, you know, Cassie settled in a civil suit with. Right?

[Dolores Catania]

Yes.

[Emily Simpson]

So the number was never. I know. She asked for 30 million. So it was revealed during her testimony that she actually received 20 million. That was her settlement in her civil case. So during cross examinations for Denny, did.

[Dolores Catania]

He have to pay taxes on that?

[Emily Simpson]

I don't know. Does she have to pay taxes on what it's for?

[Unknown]

If it's for injuries? No.

[Emily Simpson]

I guess it would be for injuries, right?

[Unknown]

Yeah. If it's to make her whole. No.

[Emily Simpson]

So attorneys for Diddy highlighted the details of two financial settlements involving Cassie, seemingly in an effort to challenge her credibility or suggest alternative motives for her allegations. Cassie acknowledged receiving 20 million and her civil settlement against Combs. One of his attorneys pointed out that she canceled an upcoming tour soon, soon after receiving the settlement, implying a connection between the payout and her career decisions. Cassie stated that no amount of money could undo the trauma she experienced, adding that if she could reverse the abuse, she would return the money.

[Unknown]

So no one's considering the trauma that she went through as to why she might have canceled her tour.

[Emily Simpson]

They're just claiming that she wanted a financial payout. Once she got the 20 million, she wasn't interested in the career anymore.

[Unknown]

Maybe, but that's her right.

[Dolores Catania]

20 million doesn't go very far these days, especially the lifestyle she was used to and, and the therapy and everything else. How you know this is, this will manifest itself, God forbid with her in another way. Like she does not know what her life hasn't has ahead of her.

[Unknown]

But I don't understand. If she gets, if she gets money and then she quits the tour, I mean she's allowed to change the direction of her life.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, how much she made on the tour.

[Unknown]

Like she faked all this and got it, you know, 20 million and ran off into the forest and.

[Emily Simpson]

Right, I understand. But you also understand this is on cross examination. So this is the defense cross examining her.

[Unknown]

They're trying to make her look like she has ulterior motives.

[Emily Simpson]

They're trying to make it like she just wanted a settlement.

[Dolores Catania]

She wanted 20 million. It's normal that they would have done this.

[Emily Simpson]

Right?

[Dolores Catania]

This isn't like groundbreaking that they're going to use. They're going to pull out every stop.

[Emily Simpson]

Exactly. Also, in a new disclosure made during the same testimony, Ventura also revealed she was set to receive approximately 10 million and a separate settlement with Intercontinental Hotels linked to the 2016 incident that was caught on the survey.

[Unknown]

Is that because the video was released?

[Emily Simpson]

I don't know. You know, I wanted to research more into that. If she's going to receive a 10 million dollar settlement from that hotel chain, is it because there was some negligence on their part? Did they not act quickly?

[Dolores Catania]

Did they not call the cops?

[Emily Simpson]

I, I don't know. That's.

[Dolores Catania]

Where did they leak and was that video leaked?

[Emily Simpson]

That video was leaked. We talked about this years later. It was, you're right. This was in 2016. The video didn't come out until 2024.

[Dolores Catania]

So I think they're liable, period.

[Emily Simpson]

But what do you think they're Liable for? What do you think the cause of action is?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I don't believe the cops were called. If the people watching the cameras saw this enough to save it and keep it in their pocket.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

Whoever they. They're responsible for. Responsible for the person that they hired who Also whoever leaked it. Right. Well, that's assuming they're liable.

[Unknown]

And you may be correct, but that's assuming someone saw the video as it played out and not just they record cameras and they. They store everything, and then later they can go back as needed.

[Emily Simpson]

But at the end of the day, it was leaked, and it had to be someone from the hotel that leaked it.

[Dolores Catania]

Why have the cameras.

[Emily Simpson]

Hotel employee would have access to it.

[Dolores Catania]

Right, but why have the cameras up if you're not watching to see what's going on? What do you just go back to see after somebody gets killed?

[Unknown]

No, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. I mean, I do think that would be the better case, certainly if they could watch in real time and call for help as needed, or if they did see it as you're suggesting. That would be horrific. If they see it and they don't do anything about it.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, everyone was afraid of him and he owned everybody money.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, they sent a security guard who wants to die from pneumonia, and he tried to pay him off. So a security guard showed up in the hotel and went to the incident and then did. He threw a bag of money at him and said basically, like, you didn't see anything.

[Unknown]

Whether it was the video or not, there was some notice of. Of this incident and violence. And the security guard did attempt to make an effort to intervene, gets paid off. Right.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, he didn't take the money.

[Unknown]

He didn't take the money?

[Dolores Catania]

No. Wow. Okay.

[Emily Simpson]

So my question is.

[Unknown]

Glad now, he didn't take.

[Emily Simpson]

My question is, is her suit where they settled for 10 million? Is it negligence of some sort? Is it. They didn't send the security guard fast enough. Did he not intervene enough? Were they. Did they have a higher duty or responsibility to protect her in the hallway?

[Unknown]

Like what is of the hotel? So I don't know. You tell us.

[Dolores Catania]

If nothing else, Emily, if nothing else, that video was leaked from their private security system and they're liable for that.

[Emily Simpson]

But the video. But the video being leaked, I don't know if that helped her settle the case. He settled immediately. It's still.

[Dolores Catania]

But. Yeah, right.

[Unknown]

But the video being leaked, is it private? I mean, they're in a hotel lobby, I think.

[Dolores Catania]

I think so. Like, if I think it is if there was no incident report, if there was nothing public about it, I would think it was. I think that it was their property. It was leaked. They're liable for it. That's how I feel.

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[Dolores Catania]

Seriously.

[Emily Simpson]

Hmm.

[Unknown]

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[Unknown]

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[Emily Simpson]

All right, let's go into a little bit about Kid Cudi. So Kid Cudi testifies Kid Cudi had a relationship with Cassie Ventura. So one of the most high profile witnesses in the second week of testimony post Diddy.

[Unknown]

Right? The relationship is post.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, it was post Diddy, but then she went back to Diddy. So he's kind of like, he's kind of in there during her relationship with Diddy. So in the Second week of testimony was rapper Kid Cudi, legally known as Scott Mascudi, who briefly dated Cassie, Italian name in 2011. Cuddy testified that not long after Diddy discovered his relationship with Cassie, someone broke into his LA home. Weeks later, his car was set on fire outside of the same residence. Cudi told the jury that he later confronted Combs during a meeting at a Los Angeles hotel, asking what they were going to do about the car incident. According to Cuddy, Combs denied knowledge of the arson, a response Cudi found unconvincing. He also said his relationship with Ventura ended soon afterward. Here's the thing about the Molotov cocktail. Basically, his car was cut open, it was dropped.

[Dolores Catania]

It was a convertible Porsche. It was in the driveway. But not before Diddy went to the house, went in his home, unwrapped his Christmas presents. There was, like, Chanel boxes. There was Christmas presents for his family. He unwrapped them and called him from his house and said, I'm in your house. And Kid Cudi went there. But here's the other thing that they're trying to go. And the dog was put in the bathroom. And the dog seemed shaken up and scared because the dog just saw the devil. Dogs can see things.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah. So they sense things. That's for sure.

[Dolores Catania]

They sense things. So the dog was peeing all over itself. I wonder if it was a pit bull. I'm just curious.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And the dog was in the bathroom, and Kid Cudi brought the dog out, and the dog was scared.

[Unknown]

Sh.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, how do you scare a dog to that extent, you know? But he was gone. Kid Cudi, on the way there, was afraid. He even admitted it. He goes, I did not know what I was pulling up to.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

I didn't know if he had his boys with him or whatever it was, or if he was going to kill me.

[Emily Simpson]

Right, right.

[Dolores Catania]

And so he walks in, and then he. Well, he was gone. And then shortly after that is the Mazel Tov cocktail.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. And off. Obviously, the point of Kid Cudi testifying to the Molotov cocktail is because an earlier testimony with Cassie, she. She talks about how Combs threatened to blow up Cudi's car when he learned about their relationship together.

[Dolores Catania]

He's gotten away with a lot.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah. Well, there's the nightclub shooting in 1999. That's been resurfaced because of this whole trial with Diddy.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Emily Simpson]

Where people are coming forward and saying he was in the nightclub, he had a gun. Yes. It was with JLo, but he was.

[Dolores Catania]

Acquitted once, you're acquitted, they can't bring you back and charge you again. Right. That's it. Yeah, that's what I, I believe. I don't know. I haven't been in the court case in Court Court House for a long time.

[Unknown]

But you've been out of the criminal court system for a while.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Good for you.

[Emily Simpson]

Good job.

[Dolores Catania]

I've been keeping it clean.

[Emily Simpson]

Also. What was interesting was Cassie Ventura's mother testified in court. So. Regina Ventura, Cassie's mother, testified on May 20. She told the court that Combs became enraged after learning that Cassie was seeing Kid Cudi. According to her, Combs threatened to release explicit videos involving Cassie as well as to harm Cassie and Cudi unless he was provided with $20,000. First of all, where does he come up with a 20,000? I mean, the guy's a billionaire. The 20,000 is just to mess with.

[Dolores Catania]

He just knew it was enough to hurt them.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

And the mother's testimony was. Was you. They said you could hear a pin drop in that courtroom because she was very soft spoken. She was like a broken mom.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Afraid for her daughter who said that they had to take a mortgage out on their house, which meant that they.

[Unknown]

Had to spend all that time and go through all that because that's. You don't just go to the store and get something. Like, she had to go through all the paperwork. She had to qualify. She had to do all these things.

[Dolores Catania]

Hoping that in that time he doesn't hurt her.

[Unknown]

Now, under this stress of her daughter and, and what he put him through for 20 grand, that's like me putting.

[Dolores Catania]

Someone through some trouble for nothing to do with them. It had nothing to do with the money. He's an evil predator.

[Unknown]

He just wanted to torture him.

[Dolores Catania]

He just wanted to torture them. And he did.

[Emily Simpson]

But.

[Dolores Catania]

But you know what? They had that mother's testimony, for some reason, got to everybody. Oh, and the other thing is they wanted to take out the part about the dog because some of the jurors are dog lovers. Yeah, they're animal lovers. So the judge wanted that out.

[Emily Simpson]

The judge ordered the defense.

[Unknown]

The judge. Are you being the defense?

[Dolores Catania]

I meant the defense. Yeah. Right away I said to myself, he could have hurt that dog. He could have killed the dog. But he didn't. But what did he do to that dog that's traumatized dog like that?

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I need to know he don't have cameras in his house. This guy, Kid Cudi. What's up?

[Emily Simpson]

I know. I was just thinking that. I mean, he's a rapper and he's wealthy. You would think he'd have cameras.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, it's a given, but okay.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah. Regina also testified that her daughter had emailed her about the threats in late 2011, leaving her feeling physically sick.

[Dolores Catania]

Who emails her mother?

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah, I know. I wondered that too. Like, why didn't she just call her? But she said she took out a home equity loan to pay the money, fearing for her daughter's safety. The funds were later returned to Regina, and Cassie reportedly resumed her relationship with Combs shortly thereafter.

[Dolores Catania]

So can I just say something? Cassie is girl. Most of what she did was because she wanted to be with him. She wanted to be his girl. She said she wanted to be his number one. You don't have $20,000 to give your mother to save her from doing it.

[Emily Simpson]

I don't think that's how he controlled her. I think he probably just bought her things then.

[Dolores Catania]

You don't go sell a ring. You don't go sell a watch. I mean, unless he doesn't make sense to me that she could not give her mother. She couldn't come up with $20,000 to give her mother by selling one gift that she got. Was he cheap? I don't know.

[Emily Simpson]

I don't know. Unless.

[Dolores Catania]

Because I can. I can sell some past things from old boyfriends and come up with some money.

[Emily Simpson]

The jury also viewed photos that Regina had taken of her daughter, which depicted bruises on Cassie's body. I saw that her testimony was brief as Combs attorney declined to cross examine her. It's good that they decided not to cross examine her because they're going to look like bullies if they cross examine people.

[Dolores Catania]

And she won the hearts of the whip. The people right in the courtroom.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. And so that was a good decision on their part to just let that go.

[Dolores Catania]

They're not dumb. They're not. They're not right. They're not defending P. Diddy because they're done.

[Emily Simpson]

Okay. I felt I added this in because I just thought this was interesting. So there's a hotel manager named Frederick Zamore who also testified he was a general general manager of the Laramatage Hotel in Beverly Hills. He testified about hotel records that were linked to Sean Diddy Combs. According to the general manager of the hotel, the hotel profile originally created in combs name in 2006 underwent several name changes over the years. You know, he changed his name to like Frank Black and he went by something else. He was always changing. No Diddy. So whenever he would check into these hotels, he would use an alias. Obviously he doesn't check in.

[Unknown]

That's not entirely unusual though.

[Emily Simpson]

Right, Right. But I like, I like. This is the part that I enjoy. The jury was also shown internal hotel notes that documented concerns about comb stays which included. These are notes that the hotel has in the computer system.

[Dolores Catania]

Make sure you have ky Jolly and what are they?

[Emily Simpson]

And please monitor outside his room and down the hall to spray air freshener. That's one note.

[Dolores Catania]

Wait, what? Why?

[Emily Simpson]

I guess because it smells. I don't know.

[Unknown]

I need to be a little strong, I guess.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. Always spills candle wax on everything and uses excessive amounts of oil. Place the room out of order upon departure for deep cleaning. The last one is, please authorize an extra thousand dollars when guest stays with us to cover any room damages. I thought a thousand was actually a very low amount for damage to the room with Sean Combs, so. But anyway, I thought that, I wonder.

[Dolores Catania]

If he ever was upset that he had to leave that. Like I, I, when I Show up, it's 200 for incidentals.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

You're right. A thousand isn't a lot.

[Emily Simpson]

It's not.

[Dolores Catania]

I feel like for the mini bar, they have to. Yeah, yeah, that's it. I need to know about the smell.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. The air freshener in the hallway. We need to invest.

[Unknown]

Air freshener was strong enough to handle.

[Dolores Catania]

Does he ask for that? Maybe. Is that something that's prepping for his.

[Emily Simpson]

Note saying we have to spray air freshener in the hallway when he stays there? I don't know. Does he burn incense? Do the candles smell? Does it create like a weird smell so they have to air freshener?

[Dolores Catania]

I'm intrigued and I need to know. I'm like literally want to DM somebody about this.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. All right. Another person that testified was makeup artist Milo Morales. She was a former makeup artist that testified that she once saw Cassie with visible injuries during the Grammys weekend in 2010. Morales said she returned to a hotel room with Cassie after attending a party at Prince's home. Allegedly, Diddy arrived, later appearing angry and shouting for Cassie before entering her room and closing the door. Morales described hearing yelling and said she felt helpless during the incident. I've actually seen interviews with her. She's done several interviews and I know when they cross examined her, they, they talked about the interviews that she's done, asked her if she was paid and she didn't. She said she hasn't received any pay. I feel like she's just out there speaking out because she feels like she witnessed something and that she didn't ever.

[Dolores Catania]

Speak out before she has to live.

[Emily Simpson]

With her opportunity to say what she saw. According to Morales, Diddy later stormed out of the room and Cassie emerged visibly shaken with what appeared to be a swollen eye, a split lip and bruises on her head. This account aligns with Cassie's earlier testimony in which she said Combs assaulted her after a party at Prince's house, allegedly throwing luggage at her and verbally abusing her. You know, there's another account by one of his assistants that testified that there was another woman that he dated named Gina. I guess that was a part of this controversy. She was a victim number three that was supposed to testify, but they can't find her. And I don't think she's now going to testify, but I hope she's okay.

[Unknown]

She's missing or she's not responding and won't and refusing to think.

[Emily Simpson]

The prosecution can't get a hold of her.

[Dolores Catania]

She's just missing, so. Well, yeah.

[Unknown]

No, yeah. I just didn't know if she was refusing to come or if she's.

[Dolores Catania]

Did anyone hear from her?

[Emily Simpson]

Like, I think they can't get a hold of her and they're saying she's now not going to testify. She's.

[Dolores Catania]

Maybe they should. I worry about the.

[Emily Simpson]

These people. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I really.

[Emily Simpson]

They're human beings.

[Unknown]

That's the reason why he's not coming out of jail.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Unknown]

Because of. Of that's why he didn't get witness tampering. Oh, yeah. That's part of his troubles.

[Dolores Catania]

He can't listen. He can't help what he is. He's still going to do. He, you know, his empire might be falling, but I feel like if he gets away with this, he's going to be more powerful than he's ever been. Oh, absolutely.

[Unknown]

Well, every time. Every time he got, you know, he exploited them for $20,000 or paid her off for $20 million. Who knows how many blew up a car. Who knows how many people he paid off to get away with his crime. And then he just thinks that was nothing. You know, I paid her, I can do what I want because I just pay him off.

[Emily Simpson]

There's some male sex workers that testified, and obviously this goes back to the sex trafficking. If they're hiring male sex workers to come and have sex with Cassie and that's what these freaks.

[Dolores Catania]

She was also finding them.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

Because it's what he wanted.

[Emily Simpson]

Then this is the sex trafficking part of the. The prosecution's case is that they're crossing state lines and that sex trafficking, I thought. And we haven't seen that yet. We talked about this a little bit yesterday, that there were underage victims as well in this sex trafficking.

[Dolores Catania]

But so far, we're talking underage. We're talking.

[Emily Simpson]

I'm talking, like, are we talking about child sex trafficking?

[Unknown]

That's not the case.

[Emily Simpson]

So far.

[Dolores Catania]

We'Ve only heard tunnels and Michael Jackson's house. And there's clothes. They found tons of kids. Clothes that. We don't know this to be true. And apparently it's not been brought up.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So.

[Emily Simpson]

But there have been, and I've seen videos, and maybe you've seen this, too, of, like, Diddy with Justin Bieber when he was very young. It talks about how he's, like, going to Diddy camp and he's staying with Diddy, and Diddy's his guardian.

[Unknown]

Can't disclose what they're gonna do.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Unknown]

Where they're gonna be.

[Emily Simpson]

And I'm, like, really creepy. And then I saw an interview with Usher he did on Howard Stern, And Howard Stern was saying, well, what happened with Diddy? You know, because Usher was underage at that time, too. He's like, you know, I can't say. I can't talk about it. And he said, well, would you ever let your child be around titty? He was basically like.

[Unknown]

He was like, hell, no.

[Emily Simpson]

No, it wasn't just like, did you.

[Dolores Catania]

See Kanye West, Diddy? Kanye west was at a concert. They were setting up. Kanye's children were playing, and Diddy walked over to them to say hello, and Kanye came running down the stairs and goes, get away from my kids.

[Emily Simpson]

Oh, yeah. See?

[Dolores Catania]

Shook his hand. He's like, get away. Back off.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

50 Cent's been. Oh, yeah, crying about 50 cents, screaming on top of mountains about this. And here's the other thing. One of the sex workers who went on a big shootout in Miami in the Trump Hotel. I believe it was Miami. I don't know if you saw this. And he gets arrested. He has, like, a shootout with the cops, and he's like, yeah, yeah. He goes, I want to talk to you.

[Emily Simpson]

Is this a sex worker that's connected to Diddy or just a sex worker?

[Dolores Catania]

No sex worker that's connected to Diddy. Okay. And he's like, he's in jail, but as he's getting arrested, he's like, listen, Diddy calls me. I go, there. You guys don't understand. They hire me to come, and he puts oil, and he starts going off, and no one listened to him. No one believed him. And they put him in jail. Now they're going back to him, and Goes, oh. And they're like, what'd you say? And they're like, I was trying to tell you when you were arresting me that this was going on.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. So during this testimony, there was a male sex worker. Testified and his. This is actually, I find this amusing. His name is the Punisher. So on Tuesday, a man identified as Charay Hayes, also known as the Punisher, described a series of encounters he allegedly had with Cassie while Diddy was present. In my mind, I can't get past the fact that this guy is a sex worker, but his name is the Punisher. So the Punisher said that he first met the pair at a hotel room and Trump Tower where he was. Is this maybe is this the same thing?

[Dolores Catania]

That's who I'm talking about.

[Emily Simpson]

See, told her he was instructed not to acknowledge Combs, who reportedly wore a face covering. He alleged that during multiple encounters, Combs observed and issued directions, including lighting adjustments and sexual instructions.

[Dolores Catania]

Is he ever tired? Like, he just doesn't stop. He goes and he goes and he goes, but he doesn't do anything. Half assed. Diddy does things to the extent.

[Emily Simpson]

So the Punisher's testimony follows the Punisher. Similar claims made by other witnesses. For example, Daniel Phillip, who last week in testimony alleged he was paid to engage in sexual acts with Ventura under Combs direction. So again, they're establishing. I guess again, this goes to. It's. It's an enterprise. It's not just like a casual consensual. Everybody shows up and they have an orgy. It's an elaborate business dealing. Establishing. Right.

[Unknown]

That it's production audio, visual audio too.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

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[Emily Simpson]

I thought it was interesting because during testimony in Diddy's trial, a former escort named Vin Armani has publicly denied any involvement in the allegations raised during the Diddy trial. Apparently they showed his picture. He is one of these.

[Unknown]

Well I saw, I saw one of the others from the show.

[Emily Simpson]

From the show.

[Unknown]

I saw the other gigolo from the show.

[Dolores Catania]

He's denying that he had. So then why is he there if he has?

[Emily Simpson]

No well they're showing so they showed.

[Dolores Catania]

Is he an expert witness?

[Emily Simpson]

No, they showed a photo of him and they showed there were actually two gigolos from the show that were showed during the testimony. But he has come forward and said that it's just misidentification. Like he was not involved in any of these freak out freak offs. So Armani, who previously appeared on the Showtime Showtime series Gigolos, said he was never contacted by prosecutors and called the identification a case of mistaken identity. In comments to the Daily Mail, Armani said he was he has never had any interaction with either Combs or Ventura involving violence, drugs or paid sex acts. He acknowledged socializing with numerous celebrities over the years, but firmly denied ever participating in any of these freak offs. Armani also criticized media coverage particularly and now deleted TMZ article. It was TMZ that came out and named him, I believe, and also that other guy that killed his, that he's.

[Unknown]

He'S in jail now for having killed his girlfriend.

[Emily Simpson]

The Armani guy that ven that we were talking about. He has argued that the misidentification has harmed his reputation and expressed frustration at not being Contacted by legal authorities to clarify his role in all of this. So anyway, that's where we're at with that now.

[Dolores Catania]

Can he get money for that? Can he?

[Emily Simpson]

Well, I feel like the fact that he came forward and said that his reputation was harmed because that's not. That's not. I mean, your. Your reputation was harmed. That's legal jargon right there.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Emily Simpson]

That means he's consulted with an attorney, and I think he's probably going to sue for defamation or something.

[Unknown]

Everyone's getting jump on this bandwagon, End up getting money.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Unknown]

I mean, that's. There's enough to go around the hotel also. Might just be deep pockets. You know, let's look at pockets.

[Dolores Catania]

That's what I'm saying. Like they could settle.

[Emily Simpson]

All right, here's some questions after the second week of trial. First of all, we talked about this already, but gina, who is victim number three, is nowhere to be found in court on Wednesday.

[Dolores Catania]

That might be a problem for gina.

[Emily Simpson]

It. Well, it might be a problem for the prosecution, too, because I think Gina.

[Dolores Catania]

Gina's in trouble.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

They might want to check some shallow graves.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, right. I mean, I'm worried for gina.

[Emily Simpson]

In court on Wednesday, outside the presence of the jury, defense attorney mark agnifilio said that gina is out of the case. Assistant.

[Dolores Catania]

She's out of the case.

[Emily Simpson]

That's what the defense.

[Dolores Catania]

How'd she get out of the case? Just because they can't find her, they're like, okay, well, maybe she's dead. Can't find her. She's not answering. So we're just not going to call her now.

[Unknown]

Yeah. But defense is very quick to want to excuse her.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. He's. So that's the divorce. Of course, the assistant u. S. Attorney, christy slavic, said that gina was very much part of this case, Adding that she was identified in the indictment. I think this comes down to a case of the defense is saying, ah, she's not part of it. The prosecution saying, yes, she is, and they can't find her, and they're hoping they can find her.

[Dolores Catania]

God, this we're gonna find.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, so we hope gina's okay, and we hope that they can find her. She was a big part of this case. She was considered victim number three. And the part of establishing for the prosecution. And what was it, the rico case Is that there's multiple victims.

[Unknown]

Victims. So, yeah, it has to be at least two violations within 10 years.

[Emily Simpson]

Right. So she was victim number three. So they clearly need her testimony.

[Dolores Catania]

So there has to be at least two. They have two.

[Emily Simpson]

They have victim one and two Cassie. And then I'm not sure.

[Dolores Catania]

So the third one would put it over the edge, right?

[Unknown]

Well, just more. I think the more testimonies, the more things.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So Gina's safe to say if Gina owed me money, I'd be upset. I'd be worried right now because she ain't showing up.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Emily Simpson]

So hopefully we can figure out what happened with Gina and maybe she comes forward. Also, I do have a question because they've talked about and alluded to showing footage of these freak offs because we know that there's video footage that he's recorded, a lot of them. In your opinion, do you think showing clips of these freak offs helps the prosecution or helps the defense?

[Unknown]

It depends. If. If the videos are people cheering and having a good time and laughing, it's not going to help, right?

[Dolores Catania]

Depends on what the content of the video. Right. We could, could. You could see people drugged up, throwing up and getting sodomized.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

Are we going to see everybody, like Shane says, dancing on the big bed that was the size of the yard?

[Emily Simpson]

I would say that there's probably both in this video archives. There's probably. So it depends on what they pick and choose, what they show the videos.

[Dolores Catania]

What part of the videos I saw, like with Justin Bieber so far, although it was very unclear what was. Was actually going on. You saw enough to make your assumption and to make a pretty good assumption. That was enough for me.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

But what my brother told me. Now, my brother's been a cop now, 30 something years in Patterson. He's a lieutenant, he's a Marine, he's, you know, very well respected hostage negotiator. So I always go to him to break things down for me.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

What he did say though was before every party, Diggy would. Diddy would come out and say it's about to freak off. If you're not comfortable, leave. Yeah, that's like every party, right? I feel like that covered himself.

[Unknown]

I bet you no one ever left.

[Dolores Catania]

I know.

[Unknown]

Because there's curiosity. There's also like, I don't want to get blacklisted. This is gonna be crazy.

[Emily Simpson]

Did he record that part before they recorded these freak offs?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, they must have for people to.

[Emily Simpson]

Know for him to. To protect himself that that was recorded.

[Unknown]

Well, plus, how was it said? Was it with attitude? Like, get the hell out of here. Like, if you can't. If you can't handle this, get out of here. Oh, we don't want to make you.

[Dolores Catania]

Feel uncomfortable then by him saying that if this is true, Lewis is usually right.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

If this is true, he just covered himself to say everyone was there on their own.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, everyone was there consensually.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know if that's true. But, you know, I don't know.

[Emily Simpson]

You know, I have one more thought because we also, when we talk about Diddy, I was thinking about when we were talking about the expert witness and how she was testifying to the trauma and sticking around and not leaving when we're talking about Cassie and also the fact that it wasn't. She didn't come forward immediately. She came forward years later and talked about all the abuse that she endured. And it made me think about Menendez because I don't know how much you know about the Menendez case, but that's a lot of the DMS that I get from people when we talk about Menendez because they were 18 and 21 at the time. And ever I have so many people that say, well, they could have just left. Why?

[Dolores Catania]

That's why I want us to talk. I want you to see that today. I was really looking forward to coming here with the two of you because I was very bothered by the comments that I see on why didn't they just leave. And that's really just a lot of nothing against people. I'm happy they don't know this life. I'm happy they don't understand it, but it's just ignorance and it's being uneducated about this type of thing.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

So I hope that it clears up some things. On why people stay.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Because when something like that happens to them, their self worth is so far gone. Like so gone. Yeah. That's why nobody is born. And they're going to say, I'm going to go be a prostitute, I'm going to go be on drugs, I'm going to go be a stripper and have to like sell myself to people. Something is taken from them at an age. So I mean, I read about it. Look, look into it before you judge Cassie on why she stayed. But what I want to know is when was she released by him? Because at what point did he just move on? Yeah, that's what I want to know. And when that's interesting.

[Unknown]

I'm guessing I don't know this. I'm guessing the video played a part in it because now there was some leverage this video will get released. Right.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, the video wasn't 2024.

[Unknown]

Correct. But the 20 million, what was that for? What incident was that for?

[Emily Simpson]

She filed.

[Dolores Catania]

She's Been far gone out of it.

[Emily Simpson]

A civil case against him before the video came out. He settled it within 24 hours.

[Unknown]

Right. But don't you think her attorney. I don't know what got her to go to her attorney if she knew there was video or not. And I could be totally off, but if she knew there was video, then.

[Emily Simpson]

That could have been part of this. And she.

[Unknown]

If she went to an attorney and the attorney's like, I got. Had this video, and then that solved it in 24 hours.

[Dolores Catania]

I have a theory. I might have one. When did she start. When did she. This guy that she's with now, her husband. Her husband, yeah. When did he come into the picture? Was that around the time that she called and she said, I want compensation for this?

[Emily Simpson]

I. You know, I don't know.

[Unknown]

Like, he, like, he encouraged her. Like, now they're together.

[Dolores Catania]

So I feel like. Because I have a friend who once dated this guy. And then she started to say to, like, the guy was very jealous of her past relationship. And then she told him an incident that had happened. One incident. I forgot whatever it was she had said to him, and he's like, you need to press charges now. And he forced her to press charges when she wouldn't have. She had just had moved on from this relationship. And out of nowhere, this guy that she was dating gets like. Like a restraining order in the mail or some shit. And it was all because the guy she had now started dating wanted her to do something about it. I feel like.

[Emily Simpson]

So you're saying that maybe having a good relationship with her husband and him encouraging her to come forward was the reason why she did it.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm not saying it was a good relationship. I. I'm saying, like, this guy made her maybe, possibly. Do I. I have to find. Before I say anything else and sound like a total idiot, I'd like to know the timeline of when she met him, who she's with now, who she married, and when she filed that.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah, that would clear up something for me, since we've talked about Menendez so much. And there was always issues that people had with the Menendez case. One, it was. They were 18 and 21. Why didn't they just leave? And also, why didn't they originally, in the very beginning, talk about the abuse? The abuse allegations didn't come out till later after the fact, but it is exactly the same thing that's happened with Cassie. So I'm saying, if you're a proponent of Cassie and you understand the trauma bonding and you understand why she didn't speak out. I understand why she didn't leave when she should have or when you understand all of that. You can apply that same logic to.

[Dolores Catania]

The Menendez, Menendez brothers who were abused by their father. These are kids who apparently went to their mother, their own mother told them to shut up about it.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

I think the biggest problem most people had back when, and it was a different world back then when this happened was that they up. Right. But also because of the money they spent in the partying that went on did not help them.

[Emily Simpson]

Them. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Oh, after the death.

[Dolores Catania]

After the death, they went on to party and spend money and do all these things.

[Unknown]

It's a good rule of thumb to wait two months before you throw big parties. After.

[Dolores Catania]

So. And you know, I still don't care what they did, how they did it. If their father did that to them, I don't care that they killed him.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah. You know, and also when you talk about the spending spree, I think that the media harped on it so much, it just made them look like these rich, entitled kids that just wanted to get rid of their parents so that they could could spend their money.

[Dolores Catania]

And no one wanted to hear why they did it after.

[Emily Simpson]

You look at it from a different perspective and say they were abused and controlled for so long, free.

[Unknown]

And they were probably trying to the.

[Emily Simpson]

First time they had any freedom in their life. And that's why they did.

[Unknown]

They were probably trying to. They were celebrating happiness. Oh, now we can do this. Now we can do that.

[Emily Simpson]

Right.

[Unknown]

Now we can, you know, go meet people and get out of the house.

[Dolores Catania]

My heart goes out to them. Right. For what they.

[Emily Simpson]

Well, a little update on Menendez because we didn't do this at the top of the show, but they did. They have been reset, sentenced. So they went through the resensing hearing. The judge did resentence them. And so they are eligible for parole. So that is the next step. They will go before a parole board. And we are actually, we've been talking about this for months and months and months and ever since monsters came out of whether they were going to be released or not. And we are now on like the tip of the ICE board hearing can be. I don't know when. I don't. I'm not sure when it is. I think there's a date for it and I can't remember off the top of my head, but they will go before the parole board.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I hope they get released, but I think they've done their time, they've paid, you know, you do the time, you pay the. Wait, what was it?

[Unknown]

Do the crime, pay the time.

[Dolores Catania]

Do the crime, you pay the time. Was it Beretta? The song from Beretta. But whoever doesn't know that that's an old cop show. But you know, for me, you know, and as you both know, if you're going in front of a parole board, the most important thing is to show remorse.

[Emily Simpson]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So I hope that they can show the remorse that's needed, show that they've done their time and they've learned their lesson. That's another thing that you have to show when you come in front of the parole board. And I hope that they can convince the board to finally release them. Yeah.

[Emily Simpson]

So we'll follow that and let you know. But anyway, thank you guys so much for listening to Legally Brunette. We hope you enjoyed the episode and thanks Dolores for being here.

[Dolores Catania]

Thanks for having me. I enjoy this, by the way. Thank you, thank you. And I enjoyed the two of you so much. Thank you.

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