Little Missy Misplaced (RHOBH Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: "Little Missy Misplaced (RHOBH Recap)"

Release Date: January 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Two Ts In A Pod is a lively, unfiltered deep-dive into Season 15, Episode 5 of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH). Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge recap the latest drama in Arizona, unpack cast dynamics, and offer their sharp insights into recurring cast behaviors, emergent housewife Amanda, the ongoing tension between Dorit and Kyle, and Sutton's emotional journey. The episode is intermixed with witty banter, reality TV tea, and their own life updates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Updates & Teddi’s Return

• Teddi reflects on her absence and recent struggles with PTSD
  • “[I’ve been] doing a lot of therapy, a lot of rest, a lot of hanging with the family, a lot of trying to get myself together because apparently I’m struggling with like massive PTSD.” (Teddi, 02:52)
• Anniversary of Teddi’s ordeal
  • “Can you believe you’re coming up almost on one year anniversary of all this?... I think it’s February 12th.” (Tamra & Teddi, 03:20)

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2. Ultimate Girls Trip & Franchise Casting Chatter

• New cast details and Nene's return
  • Tamra lists the cast for the next Ultimate Girls Trip (Vicki, Luann, Teresa, Portia, Kyle, Gizelle, Lisa) and notes the glaring absence of Miami housewives.
  • Discussion of filming logistics and speculation on why Miami is missing.
  • “Nene is back. That’s something I never, ever thought I would hear.” (Tamra, 06:27)
  • Tamra reflects on Nene’s fallout with the network, her own behind-the-scenes call, and the likelihood of Nene's continued involvement:
    • “I think Nene is—she’s great for the show. She’s so amazing for the show…” (Tamra, 07:09)

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3. RHOBH Season 15, Episode 5: Arizona Drama Recap

Slow Start to the Season

• Both hosts agree the season has been sluggish.
  • “It’s going a lot slow.” (Teddi, 07:51)
  • “It’s going as slow as it took them to make that dinner. 16 hours!” (Tamra, 07:54)

Sutton’s Evolution

• Discussion of Sutton’s character development and name change.
  • “We’re seeing a little bit of a different Sutton this season since she’s changed her last name to Brown…” (Tamra, 08:27)
  • Both agree the dynamic of group dinners and casual activities feels new for the group.

Standout New Housewife: Rachel

• Both hosts are pleasantly surprised by Rachel.
  • “I wasn’t sure how I was gonna feel, but I love her.” (Teddi, 09:12)
  • “I need her to get a little more activated though.” (Tamra, 09:21)

Kyle, Dorit, and PK Tension

• Ongoing skepticism about Dorit’s trustworthiness and the authenticity of her stories regarding PK.
  • “I don’t think Kyle’s believing Dorit.” (Tamra, 09:45)
  • Teddi argues no one wants their ex bashed publicly, noting contrasting approaches by Kyle and Dorit to separation:
    • “[Kyle is] protecting Mo. When we see him out with all these young girls and stuff and you don’t see Kyle doing that stuff, I mean, your natural instinct would [be to] blast his ass. And she’s not.” (Tamra, 10:48)
  • Both speculate that Dorit wants "blind loyalty," which is rare in these circles.
    • “I think she just wants, you know, blind loyalty.” (Teddi, 17:04)

Amanda: The Controversial Addition

• Persistent topic: Amanda’s personality, business, and potential MLM ties.
  • “Hope they’re just getting, like, her most annoying qualities every single time. Because from every single episode, the bragging.” (Teddi, 17:51)
  • Amanda’s overt name-dropping (Chanel, Louis Vuitton) mocked:
    • “Instead of saying ‘out of my bag’ she’ll be like, ‘out of my Chanel bag.’” (Teddi, 18:17)
  • Teddi describes Amanda’s business as “not a personal development course, it’s really about manifestation… she’s selling these courses then other people learn how to do it and then they sell their courses.” (Teddi, 18:34, 19:08)
  • Tamra summarizes: “So, it’s a multi-level marketing.” (19:00)
• Both are unimpressed by Amanda’s braggadocio, her business calls, and her lack of self-awareness:
  • “She talks a lot about money.” (Tamra, 24:37)
  • “I feel like she’s been manifesting wanting to be on this show for a very long time.” (Teddi, 25:36)

The "Little Missy" Moment

• Amanda confronts Sutton and recalls being called “Missy.”
  • “Would she call her missy or something like that?”
    • “Yeah, listen, little missy.” (26:29)
  • Both agree it was a sign Sutton was annoyed.

Sutton’s Emotional Vulnerability & Insecurity

• Sutton opens up about not feeling “pretty enough” or “this enough.”
  • “I never felt pretty enough. I never felt this enough. I never—And I never realized that. So her… behavior is due to insecurity, not due to just being an asshole.” (Teddi, 36:47)
• Discussion around Sutton’s mom’s harshness, annulment by ex-husband, and possible overreliance on alcohol.

Jennifer Tilly’s Role & Tension with Sutton

• Jennifer is emerging as a key presence—possibly stirring conflict with Sutton.
  • “Anytime Jennifer says anything, Sutton’s like, why are you trying to bring that up?” (Teddi, 28:13)
  • Tamra notes this could build to a significant feud:
    • “And I think that’s going to be the beginning of, you know, a problem to come this season between Jennifer Tilly and Sutton… Jennifer Tilly is…she’s a smart woman.” (Tamra, 28:23)
• Jennifer speculates Sutton is the reason Garcelle is gone, which surprises both hosts.

Garcelle’s Absence & Friend Group Dynamics

• Discussion about whether Sutton is to blame for Garcelle leaving.
  • “She just didn’t have her back.” (Teddi, 30:16)
  • Tamra relates, “I can tell you on my show that I was close to somebody and it was all about her… then you’re like, wow, like, do you know my kids’ names?” (Tamra, 31:03)

Additional RHOBH Moments

• Not much excitement this episode: “We’re gonna need something to happen, something better than the ladies having dinner at the airport.” (Teddi, 38:12)
• The group’s low-energy wardrobe choices and dinner at the airport are mocked.
• Light roast of Amanda’s "career elevation" attempt via the show.
• Bose’s fertility journey is briefly discussed, with Teddi providing insight into the egg retrieval process and IVF.
  • “Right now they’re just trying to see if she has any good healthy eggs.” (Teddi, 41:26)

Kathy and Jennifer Tilly as Comic Relief

• Kathy’s absence and her unique place in the season are noted.
• Jennifer Tilly might not want to fight, but she could be ready for more prominent status.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Amanda’s social climbing:
  “I feel like she’s been manifesting wanting to be on this show for a very long time.” (Teddi, 25:36)

• On Sutton’s emotional growth:
  “I never felt pretty enough. I never felt this enough... So, her behavior is due to insecurity, not just being an asshole.” (Teddi, 36:47)

• On the slow season:
  “It’s going as slow as it took them to make that dinner. 16 hours!” (Tamra, 07:54)

• On the airport dinner:
  “At the airport... How the mighty have fallen.” (Tamra, 38:26)

• On Jennifer Tilly’s vibe:
  “She’s fun. And as kooky as she is, she’s a smart woman.” (Tamra, 28:45)

• On loyalty in Housewives friendships:
  “You can have loyalty, but you can also question that person if something’s not making sense.” (Tamra, 17:31)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Teddi returns, PTSD discussion – [02:48–03:16]
• Ultimate Girls Trip cast & Nene’s return – [04:14–07:26]
• Recapping Episode 5, season’s slow pace – [07:42–07:54]
• Sutton’s transformation and “Little Missy” – [08:27–26:29]
• Amanda’s bragging & business speculation – [17:51–19:08]
• Dorit & Kyle friendship tension – [09:45–17:09]
• Garcelle’s exit & Sutton’s role – [29:19–31:03]
• IVF/Fertility journey (Bose) – [40:44–41:42]
• Sutton’s emotional speech, insecurity – [36:47–37:05]
• Jennifer Tilly & Sutton dynamic – [28:13–29:03]

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Summary Tone & Flow

The episode is a classic blend of shade-throwing, empathy, and Housewives wisdom, with the hosts switching easily between critique, joke, and personal anecdote. Their dynamic is candid, occasionally snarky, and always rooted in their insider understanding of Bravo culture. Both Teddi and Tamra push each other to challenge cast behaviors, dissect motives, and bring out the real, unfiltered thoughts many Housewives fans are shouting at their TVs.

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Final Assessment

If you missed RHOBH Season 15, Episode 5 or simply want sharp commentary with a side of tea, Teddi and Tamra deliver a thorough recap and plenty of off-camera insights. With Amanda emerging as a new lightning rod, Sutton revealing deeper emotional layers, and friendships in flux, the stage is set for tension and transformation in Beverly Hills—if the pace picks up.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with Myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

You are back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. Can you believe it?

[Tamara Judge]

It seems like it was forever.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. I've been Doing a lot of therapy, a lot of rest, a lot of hanging with the family, a lot of trying to get myself together because apparently I'm struggling with like massive ptsd.

[Tamara Judge]

You are?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my goodness. From everything that happened, everything that has happened to you. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I didn't really realize it.

[Tamara Judge]

That makes sense, though. Totally, totally.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I'm starting to feel a little better. The cloud is lifting. Good.

[Tamara Judge]

Can you believe you're coming up almost on one year anniversary of all this?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. I know. It's like, I think it's February 12th. February 12th.

[Tamara Judge]

I have it in my calendar.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. One year.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. It wasn't that long. It was like almost a year ago that we were at New Orleans for the super bowl.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And that happened right after that.

[Tamara Judge]

And you were having such bad headaches constantly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's so crazy.

[Tamara Judge]

Everything's good as can be, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, everything's good as can be. What about you? What's going on? What have I missed?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, God, I don't even know. I'm in Big Bear right now. Taking my last little break for a while. So just, you know, just life, nothing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I was filming about to start again.

[Tamara Judge]

I cannot confirm or deny.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Tamara Judge]

I cannot confirm or deny. But did you see that? Last night I watched what happens live. Andy released the names of the main cast members that will be doing the ultimate Girls trip. So it was Vicki, Luann, Teresa, Portia, Kyle, Giselle, and Lisa. But noticeably missing from the show is Miami.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Nobody from Miami.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Nobody from Miami.

[Tamara Judge]

Why? I wonder why did somebody fall out? I mean, they got a bunch to choose from.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you think they're already filming?

[Tamara Judge]

They. That might be a possibility. Yeah, that might be a possibility that they're filming because they stopped before Orange County. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So they're actually been delayed quite a bit. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So maybe they're filming so they don't want to take one away.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, so they're probably filming, but they will be a part of it. And there also is going to be multiple housewives making cameos at different events, different cities, different parties. So it's going to be. It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is it going to be like a road trip?

[Tamara Judge]

I think for the girls, the main girls, that what I take away. I don't know. I'm speculating that it is a road trip. Like they're going to be going. I seriously driving. I think there's certain areas, like they can drive from Orange county to Beverly Hills, obviously.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

But other than that, I think, you know, it's just going to different cities, doing different things.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How do you think this group's going to get along?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I don't know. Like. Like, Heather was reaching out to me. She's like, do they fight at these things? And I'm like, I think it's more about just having fun.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it'll be interesting to see how the different franchises mix together, because obviously, people know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

People know each other. And let's just say I'm a little afraid.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Because of this podcast.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, Andy said it's more of, like, a celebration. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a celebration of 20 years of housewives. Nene is back. That's something that I never, ever thought I would hear. And I think she even said it in her. Her video she put on social media. Like, I never thought I'd say these words, but she's back. And it's. And it's. I mean, I know I don't know everything that went on with Needy in the network, but I know there was, you know, rumors, there was lawsuits. And I will tell you, I got a phone call asking if I want to get involved way back when, really. And I was absolutely not. Do not. So I don't. I don't know what went down. But the end of the day, like, obviously, she was hurt, and when you're hurt, you lash out. But I think Nene is. She's great for the show. She's so amazing for the show. I see her doing this and then maybe going to Traders and then going to Atlanta.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That could make sense, right?

[Tamara Judge]

Don't you think so?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I think that. That it's. It's great news. So you've been keeping up on all the shows.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I've been keeping up on all the shows. I'm up to date on Beverly Hills, so we got to definitely talk about that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. So we're going to be recapping season 15, episode five. I. I can't believe it's only episode five. It's going a little slow, Ted.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's going a lot slow.

[Tamara Judge]

It's going a little slow. It's going a little slow.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's going as slow as it took them to make that dinner.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. 16 hours. 16 hours to make that dinner. And evidently, chicken's not the main course, according to Sutton.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

There's. It's. It's crazy. Like, they're still in Arizona. But you know what I thought of also when they were. They went to Sedona Remember when we went.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. We went to the vortex.

[Tamara Judge]

Did we go. We didn't stay at that same hotel. It's a different hotel.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you remember what hotel it was?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, because I think they're in a house.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't, I'm trying to figure out what they're in. I don't know if they're bungalows that are spread out. I, I, I can't, I can't figure it out. But, I mean, they have full blown kitchens. Like, I don't know if there's just one main house and some people just have rooms. I don't know. I don't know. But aren't. Don't you agree that we're seeing a little bit of a different Sutton this season since she's changed her last name to Brown? It's like she went from all this fancy stuff to having the girls make their own dinner. The girls climbing mountains, the girls having dinner on a Runway.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, having dinner at the airport. I, I did die during that.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I can say I'm loving Rachel, though.

[Tamara Judge]

I am too. I am too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I wasn't sure how I was gonna feel, but I love her.

[Tamara Judge]

I need her to get a little more activated, though. I need to see a little bit more. I feel like Kyle is the only one trying to do stuff to get things going. I know she's with Dorit, like, like acting like I'm not so sure. I believe everything you say. I mean, Jennifer Tilly's doing an amazing job.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's doing the most.

[Tamara Judge]

She is. So it starts out while they're hiking in Arizona. Kyle and Erica sit down, chat about Dorit and pk. Now, you might know a little bit more about this, some inside information, but I don't think Kyle's believing Dorit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It doesn't feel. I know nothing about it from insider information, but it doesn't feel like. I don't think anybody wants to hear somebody bashing their ex.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think it's possible that she's, you know, I mean, we know that she's listening to Mauricio and what he has to say. Do you think that maybe she's leaning on more of the side of I believe pk?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I think Mo told Kyle that PK is saying it's a complete opposite of what Dorit is saying.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. So I'm thinking like, Kyle's like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And also I think it's difficult for Kyle because Kyle's working this divorce or separation situation totally different than what Dorit is doing. Like she's protecting her family. She's protecting Mo. When we see him out with all these young girls and stuff and you don't see Kyle doing that stuff, I mean, your natural instinct would to be blast his ass.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And she's not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, she's not.

[Tamara Judge]

She's not. So I think there's two sides to every story and I think it's somewhere in the middle.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, nothing screams vortex like, you know, positive energy like talking about Dorit and pk.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

Dorit tells Bose that and Rachel that she doesn't always feel supported by Kyle, and I think Kyle's been a good friend to read. I just think she's not like, bowing down. She has a Different, like we said earlier, a different opinion of how you should maneuver through this divorce. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's simply saying, this isn't how I would handle it. And she's pointed out, like, even when they were talking about the trip to Florida with the kids.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's like, we'll just let him go then.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. And that. That confused me because she made it sound like, PK's gonna block it. It's not gonna happen. And then Kyle goes to her house, like, the next. See the next episode, and she's like, oh, where are the kids? She's like, oh, they're in Florida. And she's like, I thought pk. She goes, I just let him go. I'm like, I'm so confused. So I think Kyle seeing things like that and going, I'm not sure.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think it's possible that Dorit has a hard time letting Kyle in because she doesn't full because of the connection between PK and Mauricio?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she just wants, you know, blind loyalty.

[Tamara Judge]

Nobody has blind loyalty on these shows. I know it doesn't work like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she just wants blind loyalty, and the fact that she's not getting it is making her feel like, okay, well, now I can't trust this person. Yeah, but, I mean, even beaus was not blind loyalty to Dorit.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't think anybody is. And I think if, you know, this whole show is about, you know, you can be. You can have loyalty, but you can also question that person if something's not making sense.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It doesn't mean, like, you're not there for them. What are your thoughts on Amanda? I think I already know, but I just want to hear it come out of your mouth.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I know we can't ever blame editing, but, like, let's hope this is editing. Hope they're just getting, like, her most annoying qualities every single time. Because from every single episode, the bragging.

[Tamara Judge]

This episode, she even bragged about her little Louis Vuitton. Oh, no. Her Chanel backpack. And you could see Sutton just go, oh, she just rolled her eyes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, she's even. She'll be like, I need to get a mint. Instead of saying, out of my bag. She'll be like, out of my Chanel bag.

[Tamara Judge]

Out of my Chanel bag. Have you gone down the rabbit hole of investigating her business?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I have.

[Tamara Judge]

Of course you have. Yeah. Anything you'd like to share with us?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, no, it's just not a personal development. It's not to like course and how, you know business.

[Tamara Judge]

It's. It's a. What do you think it is?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like it really is about a manifestation.

[Tamara Judge]

So it's a lot of these positive thinking and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then she's selling the courses to other people for them to sell.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it's a multi level marketing. Yes. Oh, I did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

From what I can understand.

[Tamara Judge]

Holy moly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So she's selling these courses, then other people learn how to do it and then they sell their courses and that's how it kind of continues on and on.

[Tamara Judge]

She bugs me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She bugs. Do you think it's because she's too young?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I just think that she's too arrogant and clueless or too much of a try hard. I don't know yet. I think I need to see a little bit more of her. We haven't seen much of her family life. We saw her husband Eddie one time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He manifested.

[Tamara Judge]

She manifested. Eddie, the Abercrombie model?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, because he was standing in the. In front of Abercrombie wearing the outfit. But I'm like, that's not an Abercrombie model. That's just.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. The guys that wear a lot of cologne at the front.

[Tamara Judge]

What are your thoughts on what she did to Kyle's house? The updating?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh my God. People got so upset by that.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I. I like, I thought it looked good. I mean it's. It's different. It's just a totally different style. I liked it before too. I think that Kyle's more of a traditional, classic, you know, style. Even when in her house now it's like that. But this house is very

[Teddy Mellencamp]

modern.

[Tamara Judge]

It. It's kind of the style that's going out of style right now. Yeah, it's kind of the style like my house style where it's all very light and light wood floors and now I want everything dark.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You do you want to do a change up?

[Tamara Judge]

So I'm just gonna move.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You are?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jill Winterstein]

Have you found a place?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, no, I think Sophia is going to be moving for school. So she's going to be the two of us. Not. Not quite sure yet. And. Well, I know it's. It's in northern kind of Orange county. And I just don't want to say. And I just think that me and Eddie need like just a love shack.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

There's just two of us now. Oh, I'm sorry. There's three of us in this marriage.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Rugby.

[Tamara Judge]

Rugby before rugby. Has to go in for surgery soon. For what he's I. We don't know for sure. I think he. It's very common, I think, with ligament problems with pit bulls in their hips and knees, and so he can't put much pressure on his back leg. And it's been going on off and on. And we just think because he has, like, the Zoomies and he jumps off walls like, the dog is crazy at times. Just thought, like, maybe he heard it. They put her. Put him on, like, inflammation medication, but now he's on Prozac and to calm his ass down so he doesn't do any more damage.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, so we're very similar.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Yes. You and rugby. We can. I can send him over. We should support Animal. Can you take care of him while he's after surgery? I think that Amanda's like, talk about Avi.

[Jill Winterstein]

Do you.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you guys know, like, this. You know, this. This guy that sudden had an assistant. Stop pretending. You've watched the show. You know who Avi is, and you

[Teddy Mellencamp]

clearly are about to talk about him. So you know his name, right?

[Tamara Judge]

But I do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what really bugs about her.

[Tamara Judge]

I do kind of want to know what happened.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I do kind of, too. But I think that she's. The reason she. Sutton's not budging is because I think they signed an NDA.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, do you actually believe that he did this? Do you think that he was probed? Because here's the thing, and maybe I might be getting ahead of myself, but. So Amanda's friend is out. He doesn't know who Amanda's friend is. So did Amanda's friend go up to him and say, oh, my friend's on Housewives. You used to be on it. I don't see.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's gotta be.

[Tamara Judge]

She had to have. Because I don't see Avi going, oh, I'm gonna go up to that girl right there, and I'm gonna tell her that, you know, I have so much stuff on. On Sutton, which if they signed to NDA, he would be really stupid. Stupid to do that, to share it

[Teddy Mellencamp]

with Amanda's random friend he met out.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So, I mean, she told. She told Kyle first, and Kyle's like, yeah, yeah, bring that up. Yeah, I'm tired of doing all the workarounds here.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, sure. Share it.

[Tamara Judge]

Go for it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Let's see how it works out for you.

[Tamara Judge]

Another thing that bugged me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What?

[Tamara Judge]

The business call in the back of the car on speakerphone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The multiple business calls. And when she dreamed that her. Her program launched.

[Tamara Judge]

What? What?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then it wasn't true.

[Tamara Judge]

What The. I mean, I thought Erica. I mean, she took it better than me because I can't stand it. Like, I was at Costco the other day, and the woman behind me is on a call on speaker. And I turned around, I'm like, do we all need to hear this?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, it's the rudest thing you can do, people. Nobody cares.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And you're sitting in the middle of the backseat on probably like an hour and a half drive.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. And Erica's like, I'm shocked she didn't say anything.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I. I think. I think it's all bubbling up for

[Tamara Judge]

everybody but this Amanda, like we were saying, like, she just bugs. And then to go and say to Erica, I make more money in a month than my husband makes in a year. I'm the breadwinner.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Erica's like, good for you.

[Tamara Judge]

I wish I was like, seriously, it's just. It's just too much. It's like everything. She talks a lot about money.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you think her age is a problem?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. How old is she?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

36, I think.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, in that group, it seems to be a problem. Or maybe it's just her newfound money. Yeah, that's a problem. I mean, I know 36 year olds that are more mature than that, and just the fact that she's talking about her money means she gonna lose her money. Sorry I said it. Right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that is just bad. To just sit there and constantly talk about your money.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

To constantly talk about your money and how much you have and how you make more than your husband does in a month. And to. This is no way to make friends.

[Tamara Judge]

No, no. Nobody wants to hear it. No one does.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel like she's been manifesting wanting to be on this show for a very long time.

[Tamara Judge]

Is that why she manifested Kyle's house?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think so.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm buying Kyle's house so I can get on the show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think so.

[Tamara Judge]

You don't know her, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, never met her. Wow.

[Tamara Judge]

Huh. So it's not like she was like some good friend of Kyle's or something? No, she just bought the house. I think this was a plan.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think this was a plan, too.

[Tamara Judge]

Sounds much like my situation. Next it's the hair extensions. Sorry. Oh, my God. So the next day, Amanda brings up that Sutton was mad at her by calling Sutton by telling her what she said that dinner, and her response was, would she call her missy or something like that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, yeah, listen, little missy.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you take that as, like, something like, oh, my God, you're mad at me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I could tell that Sutton was annoyed.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I tried to think about it. I'm like, probably if I looked at my daughter and go, listen, Missy. Yeah, I'm probably a little bit annoyed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And I think Sutton is emotional. This episode, clearly.

[Tamara Judge]

This whole season. Clearly. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I.

[Tamara Judge]

It's. She doesn't want to talk about Obby, and she says, I don't want to talk about him. And then what Erica tells her is like, well, you make it sound like it's a bigger deal if you don't want to talk about it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And I. Have you heard anything about it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I haven't heard anything. And I saw her the other day.

[Tamara Judge]

Really?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

At Kyle's birthday dinner.

[Tamara Judge]

Sutton looks really good this season. She really does.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She looks really good right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think she's doing this because of the backlash of last year? The Garcel stuff, the drinking stuff? All the stuff. And, like, people keep saying, which drives me crazy. I know. You're working on yourself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Are we all.

[Tamara Judge]

Aren't we all? Working on herself isn't a daily struggle.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We're trying. We're all doing the best that we can, but, yeah, I think. I think there's a difference when Sutton's drinking a bunch and when she's not.

[Tamara Judge]

I need Sutton to go back to old Sutton more. Well, I. I need to. To happen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Well, have you noticed the little digs that she keeps giving Jennifer Tidley? No.

[Tamara Judge]

Like what?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Anytime she.

[Tamara Judge]

Pretty much.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Anytime Jennifer says anything, Sutton's like, why are you trying to bring that up?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They did a little bit of flashbacks of that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And I think that that's going to be the beginning of, you know, a problem to come this season between Jennifer Tilly and. And Sutton, and that's going to be crazy. Yeah. Because I feel like Jennifer Tilly is she. She's fun. And as kooky as she is, she's. She's a smart woman, and she's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you think she's doing it on purpose?

[Tamara Judge]

I think that she's probably getting bugged by all the times that Sutton, like, tries to put her in her place.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I brought you on the show. You just sit down, little girl. That's what it kind of sounds like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I don't need Sudden to be a better person. I like her when she's an. Well, I like it when she's got the vodka in her purse with her mixer. Just be you, Sutton. You don't got change for the fans.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she's what about when Jennifer Tilly said she thinks Sutton's the reason why Garcelle is no longer in the group?

[Tamara Judge]

I was a little shocked that she said that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I was too. And I don't think it has anything to do with Sutton. Do you?

[Tamara Judge]

Why Garcelle's not in the group anymore?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah,

[Tamara Judge]

I think that Garcelle thought that Sutton was her good friend and her ally on the show. And I think that that probably was the start of it, and she probably felt like she had no friends left on the show. So why am I here? So I don't think it's the only reason, but I think that it was part of the reason, if that makes sense.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Because if you're on a show and you have zero friends and your one friend turns against you, you're like, okay,

[Teddy Mellencamp]

but did she really turn against her?

[Tamara Judge]

No, she didn't. No, I take that back. You're right, it wasn't a turn. It was. She was just. Wasn't there for her when she thought she should have been.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She just didn't have her back.

[Tamara Judge]

Didn't have her back. And yeah, and the thing is, is like, yeah, we want to have our friends backs on these shows, but also if they're doing something that's not right or you don't agree with, you should also be able to say that, because there's nothing worse on the Housewife show when you have two friends that are like, you know, the Bopsy twins, and they don't. They protect each other and they don't say anything bad, and they don't. It's not that I want them to say something bad, but they don't call them out. Yeah, they need to be called out. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, Jennifer, like you said, Jennifer tries to interject and Sutton snaps at her again. And Jennifer tells Kyle that this is the reason. And Garcelle left and she said it's

[Teddy Mellencamp]

always all about Sutton.

[Tamara Judge]

And you know what? You only know that if you're with a friend. And I can tell you on my show that I was close to somebody and it was all about her. And then when you finally notice it, you're like, wow, like, do you know my kids names?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But why is Kyle so surprised by Jennifer saying that though? Do you think she knows how volatile she can be?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I think because truthfully, off camera, Sutton and Jennifer Tilly are best friends. It's not just like a convenience friendship.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, sometimes friends get into little arguments and it depends on how they maneuver through them. Like, you know, I'm hoping, if it does come down to it, that Sutton does see what Jennifer's saying to her and can move forward. But sometimes, if you're in a bad place mentally, whatever, you don't see it. You don't see it.

[Mind Games Narrator]

What if mind control is real?

[Tamara Judge]

If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Ben Higgins]

When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[Ben Higgins]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you get someone to join your cult?

[Jill Winterstein]

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Nlp? Nlp, AKA Neuro Linguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

[Ben Higgins]

It's about engineering consciousness.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Mind Games is the story of nlp, its crazy cast of disciples, and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, nlp might actually work.

[Tamara Judge]

This is wild.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ben Higgins]

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[Jill Winterstein]

Hi, this is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology and natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different

[Tamara Judge]

houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jill Winterstein]

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[Special Agent Riegel]

China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside.

[Tamara Judge]

This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Narrator (The Sixth Bureau Podcast)]

This MSS officer has no idea the US Government. Government is on to him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast.

[Tamara Judge]

I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer. No doubt, no question of his life. And that's a unicorn.

[Ben Higgins]

No one had ever seen anything like that. It was unbelievable.

[Special Agent Riegel]

This is a story of the inner working workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

[Narrator (The Sixth Bureau Podcast)]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tamara Judge]

So Dorit tells Sutton that she's on her side. That's something I didn't think I'd ever hear too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, me neither. Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Sutton explains that she finally feels like she is really part of this group. Do you think that that's gonna annoy the fans with the Garcelle stuff? Like, oh, you didn't feel like you're part of the group when Garcelle was there. Now that Garcelle's gone, you think you're part of the group.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I mean, part of. I didn't really think about it that way, but I guess you're right.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

All I kept thinking was when Sutton was talking was I felt a little bad for Sutton when she was like, I never felt pretty enough. I never felt this enough. I never. And I never realized that. So her. Some of her behavior is due to insecurity, not due to just being an asshole.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yeah. And when we saw that, we're seeing. We're getting to know Sutton on a deeper level. These past couple episodes, you know, the situation with her mom and how she was raised, and her mom's a little Hard on her, a little bit cold. Now her, you know, now you see that they're trying to maneuver through that relationship, and now, you know, the ex husband, you know, wants it, doesn't want her to have his name and, you know, has the relationship of the marriage annulled, which I didn't even know you can do. After some. After that many years, I didn't know that could happen. But I think it's something to do in the church's eyes. So if he wants to get married again in the Catholic Church, it has to be. No. That's how I'm taking it, guys. I don't know if that's how it is, because I'm not Catholic. Yeah. But I think that she's gone through a lot and then maybe possibly potentially allegedly relying on alcohol a little bit too much, and now she's trying to fix all that. I don't know. I don't know what happened. I want to know. I feel like we're going to know, but do you think we're going to see Jennifer Tilly and Avi sitting down? I'm just trying to steer the pot over here. Just thinking about what I would do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We're gonna need something to happen, Something

[Tamara Judge]

better than the ladies having dinner at the airport.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They. When they were all talking about that, and they're like. And then they're, like, hearing, like, the.

[Tamara Judge]

It wasn't even, like, a great view unless the camera guys are just being, like, shady. I'm like, ah, how the mighty have fallen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

At the airport.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And, like, the girls just gave up on what to wear.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Given up. Hardly any makeup on. They're in their long outfits. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Rachel's out shipping her bags.

[Tamara Judge]

How many? I mean, they were literally there. Like, I, I. If I'm not mistaken, didn't they say, like, oh, we're going home now?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

What were they. They didn't do. Nothing happened. Why are they there?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Nothing. They had one day where they went. What? Half the group went to the vortex and the other half went shopping.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. That would be me right now, climbing up the mountain like Jennifer Tilly. I felt like she was in a movie just trying to climb up the mountain.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know she was doing the best that she could.

[Tamara Judge]

You remember when we were there, wasn't it. It was hot as hell, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was so hot.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. It was hot as balls. And we. We went up, and it's so beautiful. I want to take Eddie there. My mom just recently. I guess there's a train because she lives in Arizona. There's a train you can take. I don't know if she had to drive there first, I don't know. But there was a train that you take that's supposed to be like this cool train where you can go through all the red mountains.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Red. The red mountains.

[Tamara Judge]

I remember you and I sitting on the balcony looking because the. Where we stayed at the yoga place. Yeah. Like all the mountains right there. And we're like, yep, looks like California adventure.

[Narrator (The Sixth Bureau Podcast)]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Where's my race car?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh my gosh. I still, I'm. I'm not even over Amanda.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, she truly thinks that, like this is her way to, I think, elevate

[Tamara Judge]

her career or put eyes on her career. But I think.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I think the problem is it's making it look worse.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, and the flip side, thank God for Amanda because so far not too much is going on.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. What else is even going on?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, we're getting little bits like Bose is going through her fertility.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. We should talk about that a little bit. So. So her and Keely are engaged, right? Yeah. Do you know if they get engaged on the show this year or was it after the show stopped? I can't. I don't even know. But it hit social media, so we know she's engaged.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But at this time right now where she's going through ivf, Is that what she's going through? You know more about this?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she's going through. Yeah. Form of it.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so the. What she's going through. Maybe you can educate people. Is it. She's going to carry the baby or they're going to get a surrogate or she's trying to get pregnant? What, What? Exactly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right now they're just trying to see if she has any good healthy eggs.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh my God. I couldn't imagine doing it all over again. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So that's why she has to give herself shots. And then he's like, in four days from now you have to come in and that's when they check to see

[Tamara Judge]

like an egg retrieval.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know if they're doing an egg. I mean, at that point you can either do an egg retrieval or you could submit sperm.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you, did you go through that, that exact. Now the medication, like, she's like, she feels like shit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. You feel like crap.

[Tamara Judge]

So it's just you. They pump you through full of just a bunch of hormones.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And you feel totally yucky. And so the fact that she's there and doing it and the fact that she's still able to like sit through glam.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Thank God for glam.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And why do they wear these like fancy dresses when they're just sitting at the house?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you saw the way that they dress to go on the airplane. I mean, I will give it to Sutton. She did get a private jet for that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She did. She knew she was going to need to because she was going to make Kathy do all the cooking. Where's Kathy been this episode?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, didn't she stay in bed one day?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

In bed?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, because she was up till 4 in the morning. Because she doesn't realize she's doing a reality show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

You gotta love her, though.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Her and Jennifer Tilly are some comic relief. I would actually. I feel like Jennifer Tilly's really like pumping it up more and we're getting a little bit more Jennifer so far this season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Hopefully maybe she can transition into a full time housewife.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think she will because I don't think she wants to fight.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think that she has to fight. But she's, I mean, she's kind of calling out Sutton right now. So she might have it in her. But you know, you see on social media her boyfriend and they gamble a lot. Like, I want to see a little bit more of that. Yeah, yeah. I had it on the TV last night and Eddie walked by and he's like, wait, what? Jennifer Tilly's on Beverly Hills. She's like a great actress.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm like, what are you saying? Great actresses can't be on Beverly on housewives. What's your point, Eddie? Hello? Yeah, but that's all we got for this week on Beverly Hills.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So stay tuned.

[Tamara Judge]

Get what you get. And you don't throw a fit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You don't get upset.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't get upset. And you don't throw fit. Okay, guys, we'll be back next week.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Thanks for tuning in.

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[Tamara Judge]

This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Special Agent Riegel]

In 2018, the FBI took down a ring of spies working for China's Ministry of State Security, one of the most mysterious intelligence agencies in the world.

[Narrator (The Sixth Bureau Podcast)]

The Sixth Bureau podcast is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

[Special Agent Riegel]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jill Winterstein]

Hi, it's Jo Interestine, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my my dear friend Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves. So I'm like, delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything.

[Narrator (The Sixth Bureau Podcast)]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tamara Judge]

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