Mansions and Meet Cutes (Southern Charm Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Mansions and Meet Cutes (Southern Charm Recap)

Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Teddi and Tamra deliver a full-tilt Southern Charm recap, dishing on the latest Bravo antics—including relationships, real estate, and reality TV drama. The conversation is loaded with playful banter, sharp observations, and plenty of “insider” commentary as only real Housewives can provide.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Catch-Ups & Bravo-Lebrity Health Updates

[03:38 – 06:14]

• The show opens with Tamra discussing her husband Eddie’s lingering illness post-BravoCon, sparking a humorous exchange about "man sick" versus "really sick," and aging health woes.
  • Tamra jokes about her doctor's visit: "I gotta pay people to tell me I'm old." (05:38)
• Teddi’s "weird, buzzing in my ears," and Tamra’s persistent eye spot, set the “real talk” and relatable tone.

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2. Southern Charm Recap: Favorite Cast Members & Character Analysis

[06:19 – 15:07]

• Current Faves: Both hosts are Team Craig—finding him more appealing post-breakup and noting his ‘extra effort’ as a singleton.
• Vanita Fatigue: Vanita’s constant party planning and drama-stirring is grinding their gears.
  • Tamra: "Vanita is starting to get on my nerves. Like every scene she's like...I'm like, stop already." (07:29)
• Southern Wealth and Real Estate:
  • Disbelief at Madison’s $3.9M house (08:03), speculation about Bravo paychecks, and advice to not overextend on TV money.
  • Shep’s new mansion and Hilton Head roots inspire a discussion about Southern money, privilege, and local name traditions.
    • “Shep's dad was a lawyer, and his grandfather was a successful...in the steel industry. The steel stuff sounds like money.” (15:30–15:34)

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3. Cast Professions & Lifestyle

[07:47 – 08:14; 21:44 – 23:01]

• The hosts muse about the wildly unclear occupations of most cast members, save for Madison’s firefighter husband and Craig’s unlikely pillow business.
• “I just want to know why Vanita is open to throw all these parties even when she's pissed off at Sally.” (23:15)

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4. Relationships, Parties, and Petty Drama

[09:05 – 34:57]

• Craig’s Image Rehab: Plenty of Craig flashbacks, jokes about his partying, and “fibber” reputation, but Teddi notes, “Now he's back to party Craig.” (09:51)
• Shep & the Boys: Shep is ribbed for giving “terrible” girl advice and for being the classic trust fund baby (“I like that he just has, like, a storage unit filled with, like, rugs...who has all that stuff?” 14:51).
• Love Triangle Musings:
  • Sally, Vanita, and Rodrigo’s dynamic at the singles party; Sally’s open crush on Craig and frank admission: "She’s got no shame in her game." (24:49)
  • “Do you think you can call dibs on dudes if you're single?...I think not.” (47:36)
  • The age-old debate of girl code, "off-limits," and whether it’s ever okay to pursue a castmate’s ex or crush.
• Austin & Audrey’s Relationship:
  • Both agree Austin isn’t interested; Tamra: "If you're together with somebody for six months you know...you're going to be moving in or at least talking about the future or you're going to be breaking up." (25:22)
  • They predict their breakup and note Austin’s wandering eye, especially when new girl Charlie appears.
• Charlie & Flirting:
  • Plenty of laughs about Austin’s transparent attraction. “He’s like trying to convince us that he loves his girlfriend as he’s licking his lips and drooling as Charlie walks in." (29:08)

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5. Southern Culture & ‘Mansion’ Life

[13:38 – 15:34]

• Teddi provides a mini deep-dive into Hilton Head’s “old money” dynamics and how these backstories influence the show.
• Unique Southern names like Whitner, Shep, and the prevalence of “Whit” for boys amuse the hosts.

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6. Extra-Curriculars & Social Commentary

[26:55 – 34:57]

• Spike Ball & Beach Life:
  • Tamra’s skepticism about Southern beachlife (“the beaches over there don’t look that great...It looks cold!”), and Teddi’s defense of South Carolina humidity. (27:15-27:33)
• Molly as the Wild Card:
  • Molly stands out for her “guys’ girl” energy, former supermodel status, and general indifference to the drama (“Molly cracks me up because Molly doesn't give an F on what any of these dudes thinks.” 35:44)

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7. Costume Party & Literary References

[53:15 – 55:02]

• Charms and confusion over Whitner’s literary figures birthday party:
  • “Do you think we could have figured that out on our own? Even with ChatGPT, I don’t think we could have figured...” (53:15)
  • Molly’s “full blown beard” costume wins points for effort.
• Ongoing jokes about low reading levels and “Dr. Seuss” as a literary fallback. (56:00)

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8. Jealousy, Friendship, and Real-Life Parallels

[55:43 – 57:28]

• The escalation between Austin and Craig over single life, with Teddi diagnosing, "Austin is so jealous of him in everything he does, he makes fun of him...I think all the guys kind of have a thing with Craig." (56:32)
• Extended parallels to how relationships naturally shift friendships outside of TV, too.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bravo Salaries:
  Tamra: “Do you think she's making a million a year?...I wouldn't be buying a four million dollar house. But that's me. I'm very, very, very conservative.” (08:43-08:53)
• On Group Dynamics:
  Tamra: "Just because you don't like somebody on the cast doesn't mean you have to try to turn everybody against them." (23:29)
• On Relationship Drama:
  Tamra: "I think Sally could be the female Shep." (31:17)
• On Molly's Energy:
  Teddi: "Molly cracks me up because Molly doesn't give an F on what any of these dudes thinks." (35:44)
• On Friendship and the Podcast:
  Teddi: "Four years and over 75 million downloads later, and we've only gotten in one argument." (37:33)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------|---------------| | Hosts' personal health and life updates | 03:38–06:14 | | Southern Charm cast opinions & recap | 06:19–15:07 | | Wealth and Southern roots discussion | 13:38–15:34 | | Relationships & parties | 23:01–34:57 | | Costume party banter | 53:15–55:02 | | Austin/Craig jealousy showdown | 55:43–57:28 | | Podcast anniversary and reflections | 37:09–38:49 | | Shep’s storage unit scene | 51:04–52:08 |

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Episode Flow & Tone

The hosts maintain their signature casual, teasing, and irreverent tone throughout, peppering personal anecdotes with pointed reality TV analysis. The episode is laughter-laden, snappy, and full of inside jokes—perfectly tuned to audiences who appreciate Housewives-style shade with a side of Southern critique.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a classic example of what makes "Two Ts In A Pod" a must-listen for Bravo fans. Even if you haven’t watched Southern Charm, Teddi and Tamra break down characters, drama, and southern culture in a way that’s accessible, hilarious, and sharply observed.

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Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi, guys.

[Teddy Millingham]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Millingham and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Good morning, Teddy.

[Teddy Millingham]

Hi, babe. How's it going?

[Tamara Judge]

Good, Good. Eddie's had a relapse of whatever. He had bronchitis, went to urgent care. He finished his antibiotics, and yesterday he was. Felt like he got hit by a truck. He's been in bed since yesterday. I'm like, what? This is. We're going on over two weeks now, since it's been. Since Bravicon. Starting to scare me. Like, he never gets sick like this, but then I'm seeing a lot of people on.

[Teddy Millingham]

Is he man sick or is he. He just sick.

[Tamara Judge]

He's sick sick. Like, he didn't even get out of bed yesterday. And I made him his favorite tortilla soup. Chicken tortilla soup. He could. He couldn't even eat it.

[Teddy Millingham]

Oh, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And it's not like him to not eat. So I'm like, I think you should go to the doctor. And he's like, not today. Maybe tomorrow.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah. He's like, I don't even.

[Tamara Judge]

Does this mean you're not going to California Adventure with me tonight?

[Teddy Millingham]

Are you going tonight?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I'm taking. You're not going to.

[Teddy Millingham]

I'm not going now. I wish I was, but I can't. Today's day four.

[Tamara Judge]

Day four. How you feeling?

[Teddy Millingham]

I'm feeling okay, actually. I feel. Yeah, I. Having this weird, like, buzzing in my ears. Like. Like it feels like.

[Tamara Judge]

That'S annoying.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, that's. I feel okay.

[Tamara Judge]

I still have that in my right eye, that spot that every time I. Oh, it's driving me. I'm starting to get used to it, but it's driving me nuts.

[Teddy Millingham]

Do you think you're getting enough sleep?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, No. I went to the eye doctor. She said it was something within your Eye. There's like this fluid or something and it crystallizes. It's an age related thing. It's age related. I said yourself like.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Really? I just paid you.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah. You're like you.

[Tamara Judge]

For you to tell me my eyes are old. Thank you.

[Teddy Millingham]

Thank you, thank you for that.

[Tamara Judge]

I could have went to the Instagram for that. You're old. Hang it up. No, no. I gotta pay people to tell me I'm old.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you. She said it could last six months, then it dissolves or something like that.

[Teddy Millingham]

I don't know. But did they give you any drops or anything?

[Tamara Judge]

Nada. Nothing?

[Teddy Millingham]

Nothing. You just waited out. Wait it out, wait it out.

[Tamara Judge]

Been going on for two months now.

[Teddy Millingham]

So. So you're getting there. You're getting through it.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you chewing your energy gum again?

I am my energy gum.

[Teddy Millingham]

You're liking it every morning?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I kind of like it.

[Teddy Millingham]

Did you. So did you like Southern Charm?

[Tamara Judge]

I did.

[Teddy Millingham]

I did too.

[Tamara Judge]

I love it. I love seeing all the areas, the houses, the. The clothes, the Shep being a douche. Like, I love it all.

[Teddy Millingham]

I love it all. Who's your favorite guy right now?

[Tamara Judge]

Craig.

[Teddy Millingham]

I know, me too.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. It's like, oh my God.

[Teddy Millingham]

I know, I know. I can't even help myself.

[Tamara Judge]

For some reason, he's cuter when he's single.

[Teddy Millingham]

That's normally how it works.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like you try a little bit harder when you don't have somebody to bang.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, well, he has lots of people to bang now.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, just on the cast.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, I know. And I think it's going to bang a bunch. Well, it starts out where Sally FaceTimes Vanita and Vanita admits she was pissed that Sally was trying to pressure her into taking. I mean, into talking to Craig at Madison's baby shower. Then they move on to talk about Sally. Singles party. Did you not feel like this was very quick and just like Sally wasn't even having it?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah. Vanita is starting to get on my nerves. Yeah, she's like a Debbie Downer. Like every scene she's like. I'm like, stop already.

[Teddy Millingham]

How come she's the one that's always planning the parties?

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I was wondering. Is she a party planner?

[Teddy Millingham]

That's what I know. Is this her thing?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know what anybody does for a living on this show.

[Teddy Millingham]

No, me neither. I think this show is what they do for a living.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, people are buying expensive houses. You got Madison buying a 3.9 million dollar house and she said she did it with her money. We know he's a fireman. Okay, but 3.9 million? How much is Bravo paying her?

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, she's been on a long time and she probably does a lot of ads.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but to me, this is how I've always treated Bravo. Contract. Just save it. Just save it. You don't know what's going to happen because if you overextend yourself and then you buy this 3,4 million dollar house and then tomorrow the show's over, you are out. Like, I don't know, maybe she's making. Do you think she's making a million a year?

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, maybe she's making a million a year.

[Tamara Judge]

But even if you're making a million a year, that's. I wouldn't be buying a four million dollar house. But that's me. I'm very, very, very conservative.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, that's a good thing. But. Yeah, Vanita's starting to get on my nerves a little bit. But they move on to talking about Sally's singles party, which I thought was a cute idea.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's super cute. But how about the flashbacks of poor Craig? You know, he's sitting there in his house and he's like, I'm hungover. And he's got like a. A personal, like, I don't know, is it assistant or what was it?

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, his assistant that's been with him from the beginning.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

And he's like, yeah, you can't bring it on yourself, dude. And then all the flashbacks of Craig being drunk throughout the years and everybody goes, craig, are you drunk? Craig, are you slosh. Craig, are you drunk? I'm like, the poor guy. You get drunk 15 times on. In a year on the show and all of a sudden you're labeled as an alcoholic.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, well, he labeled himself that, but now he's not.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, now he's back to party Craig.

[Teddy Millingham]

Now he's back to party Craig.

[Tamara Judge]

Now he's back in the past because I've only seen the past few years. Was he like way out of hand? Because all the flashbacks they show, I'm like, that's just a normal drunken day.

He.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, he was a kind of a big liar.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, a little bit of a fibber.

[Teddy Millingham]

A little bit of a fibber.

[Tamara Judge]

So why is he not practicing law?

[Teddy Millingham]

I don't think he has his law degree.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, he went to law school, but he didn't pass the bar?

[Teddy Millingham]

I don't think. So. Something happened that was like, I. I could be wrong, but allegedly this was all on one of the reunions. That he kind of made up a story about that. But who knows? He's too busy making quilts. Hellos, Quilts and pillows gone. But then Austin, Shep, and Whitner, this. Can we call him?

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Teddy Millingham]

Because it's gonna be too hard for me.

[Tamara Judge]

Can we just talk about that for a minute? Like, who the hell is Whitner? And who names her child Whitner? And why is he getting confessional? And is he a new cast member on the show? Like, is he like a full time cast member?

[Teddy Millingham]

I think so. But I like Whitner.

[Tamara Judge]

I do. Because you know why?

[Teddy Millingham]

Why?

[Tamara Judge]

He ripped on Shep in his confessionals. And he can surf.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah. And he can serve and he. Yeah, he's funny.

[Tamara Judge]

But what does it mean, chasing mavericks? What does that term mean?

[Teddy Millingham]

Like, chasing after, like, studs?

[Tamara Judge]

I think because they were surfing. He's like, well, it's not like we're going to be chasing mavericks. So is it like a surfers term? I don't know. I almost googled it.

[Teddy Millingham]

It's a movie.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a movie about surfers. Oh, okay. That makes sense.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, it makes sense. Why we have.

[Tamara Judge]

But poor Austin. Surfing's dumb. I don't care. Yeah. I mean, you just suck, dude.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, when the boy. And then the boys go to the bar and Shep spills the tea about Craig and Sally hanging out in the hot tub until 4:30am after the baby shower.

[Tamara Judge]

Um, I don't think that Shep should give any advice about texting a girl. I thought that Craig's text was very sweet. I didn't think it was pussy. Like, I thought it was very sweet and kind. Like, that was fun and da, da, da. But we saw Shep how he text the girl last year. Yeah. Remember that big old long, like. No, you just sit down and be quiet. Shep.

[Teddy Millingham]

Shep, come on. Don't be giving women advice. No, like, let's. Let's stick to some things that you know about, which apparently is surfing and reading.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, yes.

[Teddy Millingham]

But I still. I love that on this show. Whitner. That name does make sense. Like, I feel like I knew people named Whitner growing up.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you guys like. Okay, so you were raised in that area?

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Teddy Millingham]

South Carolina.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. So was that normal, these names? Whitney for a boy. Whitner.

[Teddy Millingham]

Brother'S name. Well, Shep is Shepherd and his brother's name German. His brother's name's Wit.

[Tamara Judge]

His brother's name's Whit.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So Whitney Whitner. Whit is like a very popular name. In South Carolina.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yes, it is. I know not every. I mean, I want to go there. Such a popular name.

[Tamara Judge]

You can call me Tam Sue. Can we go there?

[Teddy Millingham]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

I will see it. Can we do, like, a live podcast from.

[Teddy Millingham]

I'm sure Shep would let us stay with us in his new mansion that he has no one else staying in.

[Tamara Judge]

So give me the lowdown on Shep. What did his dad do for a living? Like, he. They talk about how he has a trust fund. I'm not quite sure what he does for a living.

[Teddy Millingham]

I don't know, because when I was younger, everybody was kind of the same, so I didn't know that he had.

[Tamara Judge]

You guys were all rich.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so was that just your crowd, or is that just the north?

[Teddy Millingham]

Like, that's Hilton Head Iron, South Carolina.

[Tamara Judge]

So it's for rich people.

[Teddy Millingham]

It's. Well, it's either a place that people go to retire or it's because it was. We had a vacation home there, and then when my parents got a divorce, my mom moved us into the vacation home. Vacation home. And so we grew up there. But I loved growing up there because it was such a small place. You could ride your bike to school. It was really safe. Everything was, you know, like. It was a great place.

[Tamara Judge]

What did Shep's parents do?

[Teddy Millingham]

I don't know. You think I asked? That's.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, he used to hang out with them.

[Teddy Millingham]

I know, but, like, I want you to think.

[Tamara Judge]

Was he, like, John Mellencamp rich, or was he.

[Teddy Millingham]

I don't think so, but I don't know. It looks like.

[Tamara Judge]

I like that he just has, like, a storage unit filled with, like, rugs, nicely folded, and all this furniture. Like, who says all that stuff?

[Teddy Millingham]

Apparently somebody that knows they're going to give it to their kids.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Millingham]

But I don't know. Shep kind of cracks me up, too. But then Zanita and Rodrigo go. Know who is really nice at bravocon?

[Tamara Judge]

Who?

[Teddy Millingham]

Rodrigo.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, was he? I didn't. I don't think I saw him. But Shep's dad was a lawyer, and his grandfather was a successful still. Oh. In the steel industry.

[Teddy Millingham]

Oh. So that makes sense. That sounds like money. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

The steel stuff sounds like money.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Generational wealth money.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yep. Correct. But no. Rodrigo was so nice at BravoCon.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know that I saw him. I feel like I didn't see a lot of people. Maybe they kept me away from everyone.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Millingham]

Vanita and Rodrigo go shopping for decor for Sally's party.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, I have a question. Sorry, I have questions today. Were they renting this stuff or buying it?

[Teddy Millingham]

Renting.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, because I'm like, what? This is a weird store.

[Teddy Millingham]

They had to have been renting. I mean, I mean, it kind of.

[Tamara Judge]

Looked like a thrift store. I then I'm like, they're just renting this, right? They're not buying it.

[Teddy Millingham]

I just also want to know why Vanita is open to throw all these parties even when she's pissed off at Sally.

[Tamara Judge]

Should Vanita be mad that Sally has the hots for Craig? Like, I don't understand.

[Teddy Millingham]

I don't care why she cares.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't understand why she cares either. This is an ensemble cast and this is what I hate. And this is where like, especially on housewives, when just because you don't like somebody on the cast doesn't mean you have to try to turn everybody against them.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Up.

So Vanita's really. She's on my shit list right now. Just so what? She wants to hang out with her, you guys are all on a cast together. You can't divide and conquer.

[Teddy Millingham]

And I hate to be the bear of bad news, but it doesn't seem like Sally is the front runner for Craig anymore.

[Tamara Judge]

No, Craig pushed her to the side. Do you notice he spent the hot tub till four in the morning with her? And then the next party he's like, sally who? Hi, Charlie. Charlie.

[Teddy Millingham]

Hey, Charlie. It's me, Charlie. So. And Sally noticed Sally gave Charlie a little talking to.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I don't think I would have done that. I'm the opposite. I'd be like, doesn't bother me. I don't see it.

[Teddy Millingham]

She couldn't help herself. She could not help herself. And then Sally, Vanita, and Rodrigo set up for the singles party. We're introduced to Sally's friend Charlie. Shep had DM Charlie before the party. And Charlie compares texting Shep to texting a dad. And then Sally tells Charlie and Rodrigo she wants to make out with Craig.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, well, she's got no shame in her game. And it's so funny because she just nonchalantly talks about it to Vanita. And then she's like, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't. I forgot you guys got beef.

[Teddy Millingham]

She keeps forgetting.

[Tamara Judge]

She keeps. Because they're. They've been.

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What happened between the two of them.

[Tamara Judge]

That is that bad?

[Teddy Millingham]

Vanita said something online. I know. Move on. It's like, stop.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I will say Austin seems so uninterested in Audrey.

[Teddy Millingham]

He does not seem interested in his girlfriend at all.

[Tamara Judge]

But don't you think, like, if you're together with somebody for six months, you know, if you're going to be, you know, you know what your future is like, you know, you're going to be moving in or you're going to at least be talking about the future or you're going to be breaking up.

[Teddy Millingham]

I mean, they're three years into this. Are they Three years?

[Tamara Judge]

I thought they were six months at that time.

[Teddy Millingham]

Three years.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

They need to. I. I bet you anything if we look on the. On the Instagram, they're not together anymore.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, I think don't they show and like one of the are they break up seasons that he cheated on her or something like that?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, shocker.

[Teddy Millingham]

A big shocker. But can you tell me another thing? Okay, so I realized that Craig makes pillowcases, but any. What qualifies him to any grades? Pageant?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Teddy Millingham]

I really need to understand that.

[Tamara Judge]

Was he like a celebrity judge her or something like that? I don't get it.

[Teddy Millingham]

But he picked her to win.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, she didn't win. She's very pretty. She has a very unique look to.

[Teddy Millingham]

Her, but she looks like somebody I know. I can't figure out who it is. I'm just gonna hit me at some point. But the way she smiled, like, I think it's an actress, but there's something when she smiles, I'm like, why do I recognize that face?

[Tamara Judge]

I know she's. But it's very unique. But can we talk about spike ball? Is this a South Carolina or North Carolina where the hell you're from?

[Teddy Millingham]

That's a Southern thing too.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a Southern thing. I've never in my life seen spike ball.

[Teddy Millingham]

It's so fun. You hit it into the middle of the thing and then the person next to you hits it and it's whoever spikes it out.

[Tamara Judge]

I. It was fun. It looked fun. I never played it before, but. And also the beaches over there don't look that great.

[Teddy Millingham]

They're amazing.

[Tamara Judge]

It looks cold.

[Teddy Millingham]

It's not cold.

[Tamara Judge]

Through the tv. It looks cold.

[Teddy Millingham]

It's not cold. It's humid as all hell.

[Tamara Judge]

Really?

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, that's why it looks cold, because it might be overcast a little bit, but it's still humid as hell.

[Tamara Judge]

That's why they're say so.

[Teddy Millingham]

And then what about when Mad Madison tells Audrey that Sally has the hots for Austin?

[Tamara Judge]

Madison, look at you. You're pregnant. You can't drink, you can't cause shit, but you're gonna do whatever you can.

[Teddy Millingham]

I loved it.

[Tamara Judge]

Got a 3.9 million dollar house to take care of now.

[Teddy Millingham]

We're not taking any breaks. I'm gonna drink my non alcoholic Heineken and I'm gonna stir the like this was had real alcohol in it. And I also had a Xanax with it.

[Tamara Judge]

Is this the episode where Shep slid in to Charlie's DMS because she was.

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[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, because he was wearing a lemon shirt.

[Tamara Judge]

No, he probably went out and bought that thing. He's like, I'm gonna show up. He's the ultimate boy is what he is.

[Teddy Millingham]

Oh, my gosh. When you say that, I can't even think about it. I can't even imagine making out with Shep. I mean, I love you, Shep.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, come on. You've never made out with Shep?

[Teddy Millingham]

Never made out with shop. I made it with a bunch of Shep's friends, but no Shop. But no Shep Sharp. And I can both confirm 100% we've never made out.

[Tamara Judge]

Wow.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Has Charlie been on the show before?

[Teddy Millingham]

I've never seen her before.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. I didn't think so. Did you see Austin when Charlie walked in? He like licked his lips.

[Teddy Millingham]

Like this.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm like, what the are you doing? And then he's like, oh, by the way, I love my girlfriend. I. He's like trying to convince us that he loves his girlfriend as he's licking his lips and drooling as Charlie walks in.

[Teddy Millingham]

And after he's already said like, I'm. He keeps being like, I have fomo. I have fomo. I'm so happy with my girlfriend, but I have fomo.

[Tamara Judge]

And there's Sally over there going, I'm going to strip almost naked and I'm going to jump up and down and I'm just going to make sure Craig is looking at me and he's not. He's over there staring at Charlie, who's got a cover up on.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, Charlie kept her cover up on and Charlie. But Charlie's good at flirting because she's not too over the top about it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah. How about when Shep's like, who's Charlie targeting tonight? I'm like, not you. She looks at you like a dad.

[Teddy Millingham]

Not you, boy, not you at all. But how do you think when Madison tells Audrey Sally has the hots for Austin, do you think that she took it? Like, how do you think Audrey took it?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, according to the show, she just kind of blew it off.

[Teddy Millingham]

But then, you see, she starts to have a conversation with Austin where we haven't ever seen like a tense conversation between them.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

And it didn't really go well. He's like, hey, listen. Nah. You know, I like when you're here and I like when you leave, you.

[Teddy Millingham]

Know, And I'm not gonna make the effort to drive to you. You can drive to me.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I'd be like, peace out, dude. Peace out.

[Teddy Millingham]

Do you think she seems like that much fun?

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddy Millingham]

Me neither.

[Tamara Judge]

I agree with Madison. I think Madison is on to something. I think that he needs somebody that's going to light a fire under his ass and keep him on his toes. I think that she's easy. I think she's sweet. I think she doesn't challenge him and he can, you know, bring her in every so often. She has to drive to his house in that damn traffic and he doesn't go see her. So I'd be like, I'm out.

Yeah.

[Teddy Millingham]

What's appeal?

[Tamara Judge]

She's got the TV component to it now.

[Teddy Millingham]

So it's like now she's in it.

[Tamara Judge]

She's in it. She's in it.

[Teddy Millingham]

She's in it.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I feel like Sally could be the female shop.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, what about when Sally makes a stab at Charlie for flirting with Craig?

[Tamara Judge]

Not your place girl.

[Teddy Millingham]

I mean, after she had already been upset at Vanita because she's like, vanita can't tell me who I like and who I don't want to like.

[Ad Read Announcer]

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[Tamara Judge]

Good point. But how about her saying that she would sleep or whatever, she'd make out. I can't remember what it was. Make out with Austin the day after he breaks up with Audrey.

[Teddy Millingham]

Do you think she's playing this up for fun?

[Tamara Judge]

I think she doesn't give a. I think she's single, and she's ready to be single for a reason. Little cuckoo.

[Teddy Millingham]

Who would you rather make out with, Charlie or Sally?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that's tough. They're both super pretty.

[Teddy Millingham]

I mean, they're both stunning. But I think I'm gonna pick Charlie.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, I'll pick Sally then.

[Teddy Millingham]

Okay, fine.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, neither one's bad.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, apparently, Austin and Audrey break up during the season, and on last night's watch what happens live, Austin said he exchanged numbers with kids. Kiki from Miami.

[Tamara Judge]

I saw that.

What?

Okay, have to call Kiki and tell her, no, don't do it.

[Teddy Millingham]

I mean, I think she could. They could have some fun together.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, he's tall, right?

[Teddy Millingham]

He's really tall. He's like.

[Tamara Judge]

She's super tall.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, he's like, 65. But we were all at that party together. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Millingham]

But then Audrey tells Austin what she heard, but he insists that Sally is into Craig. And then Austin tells Audrey that he does like Sally, though, and doesn't want their conversation to be misconstrued. Austin feels like he's at an age where he likes space, but Audrey doesn't want to give it to a place where the two of them are living separate lives. Well, I hate to break it to you.

[Tamara Judge]

I know she's going to say that. I hate to break it to you, but you are. You are totally living separate lives.

[Teddy Millingham]

This is the definition of separate lives.

[Tamara Judge]

I would run so fast, but also.

[Teddy Millingham]

I would make more of an effort if I was Audrey. Like, I'd be out there playing all the things. Like, I'd be playing football. I'd be trying to, you know, keep up a little bit. She's just sitting at the little thing, bitching with Rodrigo. I'm like, no, I like Rodrigo. I love Rodrigo.

[Tamara Judge]

I love him.

[Teddy Millingham]

He's so fun. And then my other question is, who do you think Vanita is going to end up liking this season?

[Tamara Judge]

Because no one.

[Teddy Millingham]

All she's going to do is.

[Tamara Judge]

And. And.

[Teddy Millingham]

It'S like, dude, what's his name Gone. What was that guy's name that was on last season that she liked?

[Tamara Judge]

Jt? Pj, I don't know. He's not here anymore, jt. He's not here anymore. And look at what she did with him. I'm not sure I believe all that stuff now. I'm starting to think she just wants to be miserable.

[Teddy Millingham]

I'm starting to think she just wants to come in a bit, throw some parties. But she always looks beautiful.

[Tamara Judge]

She's beautiful.

Yeah.

I just need her to have fun once in a while.

[Teddy Millingham]

Oh, my God. Know who we haven't even talked about this episode. Who? Molly. We haven't even talked about Molly.

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[Teddy Millingham]

We saw the lizard snake situation again.

[Tamara Judge]

And we'll talk about Molly in a minute with her costume.

[Teddy Millingham]

Oh, my gosh. Molly cracks me up. Why was. Was. Why was Molly. Molly at the singles thing? She is just such, like, a guy's girl.

[Tamara Judge]

She is.

[Teddy Millingham]

She don't give a what the girls.

[Tamara Judge]

I feel like she was, like an athlete. Like, she just.

[Teddy Millingham]

She was a supermodel.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that's right.

She was.

She was easy with the supermodel.

[Teddy Millingham]

I. I went more of a supermodel than either of us.

[Tamara Judge]

She was a Heidi Klum.

[Teddy Millingham]

No, but she was on America's Next Top Model, I think. Oh, I mean, I may have made that up.

[Tamara Judge]

First time you made something up.

[Teddy Millingham]

Truth tellers over here. But yeah, no, Molly cracks me up because Molly doesn't give an F on what any of these dudes thinks.

[Tamara Judge]

She's just over there playing her trombone or her trumpet or her whatever it is.

[Teddy Millingham]

What about when she said if somebody didn't know what the. Her little mini trombone was, then she couldn't date them? I'm like, well, that narrows everybody out then.

[Tamara Judge]

Nobody knows what that thing is. That's the thing that you play when you're in high school, when you have to take an instrument. You don't normally just continue to play it the rest of your life. In fact, next season, I'm gonna pull out my clarinet. Middle school, I played the clarinet.

[Teddy Millingham]

I'm sure you are excellent at it.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm gonna do it. That's what I'm gonna do. I don't know. I think I sold it.

[Teddy Millingham]

You're gonna take some?

[Tamara Judge]

I think I sold in a Yard sale in high school. But I am. I feel like I can just pick up that clarinet and I can just go.

[Teddy Millingham]

You can go. Is this the clarinet flute?

[Tamara Judge]

The clarinet is the black tube with the reed in it. And all I can think of is, like, you have to put the reed on and you gotta lick it. And then when you play it, it's. It smells like bad breath all the time.

[Teddy Millingham]

Oh, no. That means you have bad breath.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you have. In your mouth, and you're sucking on it, and spit gets in there, and it just sits there.

[Teddy Millingham]

You're sucking on it or you're blowing.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you're blowing on it. You're blowing on it, but you're like. Or you just remember the smell of the reeds.

[Teddy Millingham]

What about the fact that we haven't said to each other, happy anniversary?

[Tamara Judge]

I know. We have been together four years yesterday.

[Teddy Millingham]

I mean, that is huge.

[Tamara Judge]

Our very first podcast was Orange County. I was not on the show at the time. Wow.

[Teddy Millingham]

Four years, Tam.

[Tamara Judge]

And that was the last year I recapped Orange County.

[Teddy Millingham]

Four years and over 75 million downloads later.

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[Teddy Millingham]

And we've only gotten in one argument.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, when I jumped off the.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, when you jumped off text. That's the only one.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't even remember what's about. Me neither. But yeah, I mean, wow.

[Teddy Millingham]

Who would have thought, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Four years ago, that it would be this big of a deal?

[Teddy Millingham]

Who would have thunk it? Who would have thunk it?

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Our own network.

[Tamara Judge]

We have people underneath us. Like, we're going places, lady.

[Teddy Millingham]

We got. We got our together. I mean, we know how to talk about television shows like no other. Well, speaking.

[Tamara Judge]

I like to say we recap. You know what I like? What I hate now, anytime I talk to somebody that's in the industry, let's say they're a housewife. When they tell me something, they're like, now, don't repeat this on your podcast. And I'm like, what do you think I am? Like, you just walk around. Yeah, okay. Well, I just recorded you, and I'm gonna. I'm like. And I say the same thing. I go, I don't do that. I recap podcasts. I mean, recap shows. Oh, I know, I know. I'm just saying, don't talk about it on your pot. And I'm like, we're not gonna talk.

[Teddy Millingham]

About it unless we ask you to your face. And you're gonna talk about it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, Right, right. Hey, it's Will Friedle and Sabrina Bryant.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Millingham]

Now we gotta get to episode three. It starts out where Charlie facetimes her mom and tells her what happened with the whole Sally and Craig sit. Charlie's mom is definitely someone who needs to have you on Find My Friends.

[Tamara Judge]

She's.

She was cute and very southern, you know, she says it's her best friend. She asked her if she was interesting. Were you interesting, Charlie?

[Teddy Millingham]

She wanted to make sure she's. She's out.

[Tamara Judge]

Were you pleasant, Charlie?

[Teddy Millingham]

Were you pleasant? Do you think anybody's ever asked us if we are pleasant? No, they already know.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, they already know the answer. No, we're not pleasant.

[Teddy Millingham]

For this thing from plus.

[Tamara Judge]

But then you see Charlie, later on when they have the party and something goes down and she's like, oh. And I'm like, there's the Southern girl. That's who she truly is right there.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, she's a pageant girl.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you ever want to be a pageant girl?

Never.

[Teddy Millingham]

I didn't have a debutante. I didn't. Was never been a pageant girl. I'm just, you know.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you go to cotillion?

[Teddy Millingham]

I did not. But I do have pretty good manners when it comes to.

[Tamara Judge]

You do. Where do you keep them?

[Teddy Millingham]

As you pull out your piece of gum and stick it on your table next to.

[Tamara Judge]

I think this gum makes me go crazy. So take it out.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, it's always the gum's fault.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it says energy and focus Gum. Neuro gum.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, can you send some to me?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well, I'll like to know. And you can buy it off my link. I'll bring some. It comes in like. You get like six of these when you order it.

[Teddy Millingham]

Oh, I love that you have them all stocked up over there. But then Vanita goes over to Sally's house. Vanita tells her that Molly isn't a big fan of hers. And Sally admits that she thinks Craig is hot. Vanita tells Sally that she needs to have more respect for her in this situation. Sally said she'd never pick Craig over Vanita.

[Tamara Judge]

I just needs to relax. She needs to calmer tits. She's such a downer. Like, just. Just relax a little bit. She needs some of this gum.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yes, she needs some of the gum because we don't even remember why she's upset with Craig at this point.

[Tamara Judge]

And her and Craig Aren't even talking. If it's that bad, go talk to him. We're on episode three now, and you haven't even spoke to him.

[Teddy Millingham]

Who has she spoken to if she's not planning your party, who she's speaking to?

[Tamara Judge]

No one. Well, Rodrigo, I think, is the only one that I've really seen or talked.

[Teddy Millingham]

To because I don't think Sally is, like, really salivating to be besties with Vanita at this point. But why concern?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but why would it be you have to pick between Vanita or Craig? Like, why, why, why, why?

[Teddy Millingham]

No, what are we. Do you think that you can call dibs on dudes if you're single? Like, I call dibs on Craig or I call dibs on so and so?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't think so. I think not.

[Teddy Millingham]

Unless you've already made out.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, here's the thing. If one of my girlfriends made out with the guy the night before. No, I. Off limits. Yeah, off limits. I mean, it's just kind of a move to do. Yeah, I don't think you should. But you know, Teddy, the heart wants what the heart wants.

[Teddy Millingham]

The heart wants what it can't have. Then Madison and Austin go to lunch, and Madison asks how long distance is going with Audrey. Austin admits that when Audrey is gone, he questions there a forever thing. This friendship cracks me up because you have to remember that Austin and Madison used to be a couple.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I. That's the same thing I thought when I watched it. And I love that she's drinking fake beer every time she goes out.

[Teddy Millingham]

She is ready to pop that baby out.

[Tamara Judge]

I was shocked to HEAR she has 12 weeks left.

[Teddy Millingham]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

She looks so uncomfortable already. I thought she was going to say like, three weeks. 12 weeks. That's like three months.

[Teddy Millingham]

I know, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

It's cute. I love when Madison's like, when was the last time you had crabs?

[Teddy Millingham]

And he's like, funny, funny, funny. You're real funny there.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think any of these guys other than Craig have the ability or they're capable of being in a relationship?

[Teddy Millingham]

I think if they weren't on a television show, yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, Shep's gonna be 60 before he finds somebody.

[Teddy Millingham]

I think, well, he'll be able to do the Golden Bachelor.

[Tamara Judge]

There you go.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yep.

[Tamara Judge]

Put that out there in the universe.

[Teddy Millingham]

No. There you go, Shep. We got your next gig.

[Tamara Judge]

I was shocked to see Charlie. Charlie at her art gallery. I mean, that's like a kind of a grown up job.

[Teddy Millingham]

That was a grown up job. But I was not Growing up.

[Tamara Judge]

Craig.

[Teddy Millingham]

Did Craig just show up there or did he say, can I come by and look at artwork?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know, but he goes to the art gallery and he's like, do you have all the tigers, polar bears?

[Teddy Millingham]

I think you're looking for a large painting with a polar bear on it or some tigers. And she's like, we don't have any.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, you're an idiot. You're an idiot. And then he's like, well, is this lady going to die soon?

[Teddy Millingham]

Is it gonna make it more expensive?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, he's asking all the right questions, right? No, I do, but she's eating up.

[Teddy Millingham]

Every second of it. She loved it.

[Tamara Judge]

I think Craig and Charlie make a very hot couple.

[Teddy Millingham]

Me too. And I think that she's just like laid back enough that it could probably work.

[Tamara Judge]

But she looks really tall.

[Teddy Millingham]

She does look tall.

[Tamara Judge]

She looks really tall. Love that for her.

[Teddy Millingham]

Love. Yeah, people say that about me all the time too.

[Tamara Judge]

Me too.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, I get that all the time. But Charlie does admit that she likes flirting with Craig. Okay. Which is good, except for sad.

[Tamara Judge]

Just. Yeah, but how are they? Okay? They're good friends, right?

[Teddy Millingham]

Yep. Then Shep and Rodrigo go to Shep storage unit to get furniture for Shep's new house.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Rodrigo is a interior designer. Did we find that out? I didn't know that.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, we knew that. But what about the painting of young Shep? And why was there too?

[Tamara Judge]

You know, you're rich when every year your dad does a has an oil painting of you in your golf club. That's when you know you're right.

[Teddy Millingham]

You're rich when.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And then you put them down the hallway of your mansion. But now they're in storage.

[Teddy Millingham]

Now they're in storage. But he was like, gosh, look, I was so full of life and youthful and I looked so happy. The look in his eyes. Was that what he said?

[Tamara Judge]

Shep just bought a 3.2 million dollar second home. How far away is this from his. Because his regular home doesn't look that big.

[Teddy Millingham]

I don't know how far away.

[Tamara Judge]

They all relatively live in small spaces, except for obviously Whitney, who lives with his mommy and.

[Teddy Millingham]

And now Madison Patricia.

[Tamara Judge]

Now Madison's got a 5,000 square foot house with seven bathrooms and she's just wants to pump out those kids.

[Teddy Millingham]

She's ready to pop them out hard though.

[Tamara Judge]

When her husband works. Where does he work? Like L. A or something like that?

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, he goes and does like his shifts.

[Tamara Judge]

And why doesn't he just transfer? I'm sure they Have a fire department there.

[Teddy Millingham]

I think it's really hard to transfer once you're in a certain fire department.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, come on.

[Teddy Millingham]

It is. My uncle is in the fire department and I know that when he ever he wanted to transfer locations, it was always very difficult.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they need to fix that.

[Teddy Millingham]

I think they will end up doing it. But then Austin got two new kittens. He and Craig go shopping for the cats. Craig asked Chat GPT to give him costume ideas for Whitner's literary figures themed birthday party. Do you think we could have figured that out on our own? We could we Even with Chat GPT, I don't think we could have figured.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't even know what a literary. I can't say it. Literary. Literary. Literary figure is. I mean, wasn't somebody dressed like freaking Harry Potter? Like what, What?

[Teddy Millingham]

What is any figure that was in the movie? No, a novel, literally.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Harry Potter is a movie. I've read a lot of books.

[Teddy Millingham]

Can you tell who's your favorite costume? Molly. Molly don't give any f. She's just like, you know what? Yeah, I'll put on a full blown beard.

[Tamara Judge]

Was that like Harry Potter?

[Teddy Millingham]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

What was that? I don't even know what it was.

[Teddy Millingham]

It was Molly.

[Tamara Judge]

Lord of the Rings.

[Teddy Millingham]

Lord of the Rings.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. I think that I like Madison's the best.

[Teddy Millingham]

I liked Madison's and I like Craig's. Craig looked hot.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, his little rebel.

[Teddy Millingham]

I think he was from the Lost Boys or something like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, it's a cute idea. But the fact of the matter is they do this all the time in his family. It makes for interesting family photos, that's for sure.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah. But I didn't see them posing from any photos. But then I did get a little laugh when Craig was like, you know, I was used to doing this all the time in my past relationship. And then they like panned to like a little bit of summer house where they're always doing costumes like, like every weekend.

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Yeah.

[Teddy Millingham]

And I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

[Tamara Judge]

When I was in the Hamptons.

Every year.

[Teddy Millingham]

When I was in the Hamptons.

[Tamara Judge]

When does that show come back, do you know?

[Teddy Millingham]

Hopefully soon.

[Tamara Judge]

I like summer charm. Summer charm. Southern charm better than summer house.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, I think. Well, I mean, it came before, right?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't. I just like the feeling of it.

[Teddy Millingham]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

The other ones are like a bunch of 40 year olds still partying.

[Teddy Millingham]

I know. I wonder what they're gonna do now with all the changes, but.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it comes out.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah. Then Craig Tells Austin about his single life and being able to kiss Charlie or Sally if he wants to. And Austin says he has a little bit of fomo.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, could you imagine, like, if they were still together and she had to watch that?

[Teddy Millingham]

Oh, my gosh. I can't even imagine she is going to be watching that and she's going to be pissed. What literary figure do you think you'd go as?

[Tamara Judge]

That means I would had to read a book.

[Teddy Millingham]

I would probably have to say Dr. Seuss, because that's my reading level.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well, I'll be right there with you.

[Teddy Millingham]

Which.

[Tamara Judge]

Which. Which one should I be?

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah. Then everyone goes to Whitner's party while Craig's flirting with Charlie. Austin makes fun of him and Craig notices. Craig pours shots while Austin continues to make little digs about him in a single life. And then Craig tells Austin that he's just jealous. And Craig yells at Austin, you told me you were jealous. I was single. And Austin denies that. This fight escalates pretty fast.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think that Craig was wrong. I think that Austin is so jealous of him in everything he does, he makes fun of him. I don't know. I think all the guys kind of have a thing with Craig.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, I think they're mad because Craig changed so much when he was in his relationship.

[Tamara Judge]

I hate to break it to you people, but that's what happens.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah, people change.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what happens. When My friend just got a new boyfriend, I don't hear from her anymore. Do. Am I mad about it?

[Teddy Millingham]

No, no.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, I mean, it's just. That just happens.

[Teddy Millingham]

Which friend? Heather. Yeah, she did. And I'm not talking about Heather Dubrow. Calm down, everyone.

[Tamara Judge]

No, Heather. I mean, so, you know, I would talk every day, and now she's got a boyfriend, so, you know, we don't talk as much.

[Teddy Millingham]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Talk less. And I get it.

[Teddy Millingham]

And that's fine. And it'll change and it'll ebb and flow, and that's what happens. But I didn't. Do you think he's gonna come back outside? Do you think he was just walking inside pissed for a second and then this is going to continue next week with them fighting outside of that house? Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Millingham]

Okay. All right. Just to be sure on that, I just was wondering your thoughts, because I was like, I'm not ready for this to end. I need more information.

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[Tamara Judge]

Did you happen to see the new picture of Andy Cohen, the one with his teeth at the reunion? Does he have new teeth?

[Teddy Millingham]

I can't tell if he's got new teeth or he just got them whitened because the shape is still the same and they don't really look like veneers.

[Tamara Judge]

No, the shapes are not the same.

[Teddy Millingham]

The shapes aren't the same.

[Tamara Judge]

No, no, they're not.

[Teddy Millingham]

Well, why don't we ask him? Did you get some veneers? Because they look cute. They look good.

[Tamara Judge]

They look well, yeah, they look good. I remember when I got my veneers, he.

[Ad Read Announcer]

What was it?

[Tamara Judge]

It was, we were at a charity event and he said something like don't or told Heather to bro, don't get veneers like that. So I always thought he was against them. Maybe he cracked a tooth or something.

[Teddy Millingham]

I think he, I think it was just whitening in an angle because the, the tooth, the teeth still looked pretty, pretty similar.

[Tamara Judge]

I looked it up and supposedly he had veneers put on November 5th.

[Teddy Millingham]

So maybe we're just noticing now.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I noticed immediately because I'm very.

[Teddy Millingham]

Much a tooth guy.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Millingham]

So I went to look at people's teeth on Southern Chime on Southern charm face sheet and everybody smiling with their mouth closed except for Madison and Charlie. So that's a shit.

[Tamara Judge]

Who do you think would be our.

[Teddy Millingham]

Best friend on Southern Charm?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, geez.

[Teddy Millingham]

I want Madison to be my best friend.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, 100%.

[Teddy Millingham]

You can't steal my best friend. That's fine.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we're going to have to be going to be a threesome. We're going to be the new Trace amigos. That's what we're going to be when.

[Teddy Millingham]

We move to Charleston.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, yes.

[Teddy Millingham]

And then your guy pick is Craig.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah. 100%.

Damn it.

[Teddy Millingham]

We have the best, same best friend and the same boyfriend. This is going to make our four year anniversary really difficult.

[Tamara Judge]

It is what it is.

[Teddy Millingham]

But I'm happy this show is back. I am loving it. It's giving me life. And we will be back tomorrow. To recap, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is back.

[Tamara Judge]

Beverly Hills is on tonight, guys, so.

[Teddy Millingham]

Make sure you tune in. It was good. Super good, super good. All right, we'll talk to you guys soon.

[Tamara Judge]

Bye.

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