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Teddi Mellencamp
Two t's in a pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
Unknown Host 3
Hi, guys.
Teddi Mellencamp
Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
Unknown Host 3
Good morning, Ted.
Teddi Mellencamp
Good morning.
Unknown Host 3
I see you're in bed.
Teddi Mellencamp
I'm in bed. I have some restless leg syndrome stuff, and when I was sitting at my podcast desk, or whatever you want to call it, it was like my leg was pounding and making a noise, and I was like, that's going to drive everyone nuts. Like, I even cough or sneeze or herb, and people are on me. So the last thing I need is.
Unknown Host 3
My leg going tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. That's all right.
Teddi Mellencamp
But, yeah, no, I haven't been feeling great. How about you?
Unknown Host 3
I'm sorry. I'm. I'm. I'm okay. I'm just a little exhausted, you know, from going to New York and just. It's just, you know, I mean, it's like a whirlwind of stuff. So we're in Big Bear right now, just relaxing and a little tired, but that's it.
Teddi Mellencamp
That's it. But, you know, we are going to recap episode six of season seven, Real Housewives of Miami. Right now.
Unknown Host 3
Miami is given. Man, they are so good.
Teddi Mellencamp
So much.
Unknown Host 3
It really is.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, it starts out where the ladies all arrive at the Villa Toscana for their narcissist Greek party.
Unknown Host 3
Okay, I need to know where this place is. It was so beautiful.
Teddi Mellencamp
I want to go there.
Unknown Host 3
So is it in Miami?
Teddi Mellencamp
I. I don't know.
Unknown Host 3
Like, is it a wedding venue? Like, what is it?
Teddi Mellencamp
It was really beautiful, but I have to say, I was expecting this narcissist Greek party to go a different way. I mean, I knew it was going to be coming at least.
Unknown Host 3
What way did you think it was going to go?
Teddi Mellencamp
No, I just thought the guy was going to be teaching more lessons and did.
Unknown Host 3
Did Alexia find him on social media?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yes, Alexia found him on social media, but I thought he was going to come on and maybe do, like, quizzing or.
Tamara Judge
Well, I don't think this was supposed.
Unknown Host 3
To be a game. I think it was supposed to be, like, a building. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it was supposed to be some interacting, building friendships and all this stuff. Not, like, let's see who the biggest narcissist is.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, like team building.
Unknown Host 3
Team building. That's what I thought it was going to be. Like, and it turned into people were calling it a game. I'm like, this is not a game I want to play.
Teddi Mellencamp
And then it. Was it really.
Unknown Host 3
Because I would have got the most flags.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, I mean, you probably would have.
Unknown Host 3
If you got the most flags, would you cry?
Teddi Mellencamp
I think the Teddy of six years ago probably would have cried right now. No, I'd be like, you and the flags. And I'm keeping all of them so you can't play another round.
Unknown Host 3
Flags you wrote in on. Well, we got Stephanie to apologize to Lisa for the way she talked around the bus. I only saw clips because obviously I was in New York last week, but was it really bad? I have to go back and watch that episode. Did she really go in on Lisa? Because I'm sorry. I'd be pissed off too if I waited two hours.
Teddi Mellencamp
Here's the part that they're not talking about that they. That somebody shared online that I read. And it was that they. That Lisa had told them she was running late and to leave without her and that she would get there on her own. And they. I don't know if that's they as production or they is.
Unknown Host 3
Well, Lisa tweeted that.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. But I have a feeling that's true. That doesn't. Why lie about that?
Unknown Host 3
I know, I know. I. Did she say why she was going to be late? Because. Well, that's not an excuse. Like, you know, you have to film, you know, you have a time and you know you have to show up. That's part of being a big girl, Lisa.
Teddi Mellencamp
Right. But either way, you know, they chose to wait the two hours after she said leave.
Unknown Host 3
But you know why they did that? Because they waited the two hours when they waited for her on the jet that one time. And then they waited. They want to show a pattern.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. And then they. Larsa was waiting for her when they start to have their conversation again. I mean, I don't even think there's that much to recap when it comes to the Villa Toscana because I thought the entire thing was kind of a turn off for me.
Unknown Host 3
Kind of. Yeah. I mean, I felt bad for Lisa. I really did. Just in the sense that everybody was picking her and it was like, I don't know, it's kind of like just feeling odd man out.
Teddi Mellencamp
I felt like enough was enough.
Unknown Host 3
I did. Like when Alexia's like, I'm voting for myself.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. But like her dad had just passed away too at this point. Her dad had just passed away and they're just going at it with these flags you can tell she's starting to come unglued and it just felt like an overdue for me. Not even by just one person, by all of the people I know.
Unknown Host 3
Then there's Stephanie. The only thing going through in my head right now is how to make more money.
Teddi Mellencamp
I. I'm telling you, I'm going to be right on this one.
Unknown Host 3
You are. I like Stephanie. I like her.
Teddi Mellencamp
I like her too. But I think we're. We're missing a big old secret is.
Unknown Host 3
Coming on a little thick, so I don't know. We'll see. Like you said, time will tell you. You predict that she's going to get on your nerves?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Well, do you remember Dr. Nicole's initial mirror message to Larsa.
Unknown Host 3
On the wall? What was it? I forgot.
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't know. I feel like Larsa walks so this narcissist tiktokers. Mirrors could run like. I think it was like mirror. I forget exactly what it was, but I wonder if this would have even happened if she didn't do that. Oh, mirror, mirror on the wall. Who's the fakest of them all?
Unknown Host 3
That's what it was.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh my God. But then they all start to like, check on her. Lisa goes into the bathroom and cries. Adriana sees how she is. She says she hates these people. They could. They don't even have fun hanging out together. Then Gertie grabs Larsa and has her and Lisa do a talk. This I found annoying too.
Unknown Host 3
I mean, okay, Gertie, she thinks she's Andy Cohen. She sits there on that chair and tries to moderate the conversation. And both of them are like, just go away. Stop.
Tamara Judge
Go. Just go.
Unknown Host 3
And she was insisting it was, it.
Teddi Mellencamp
Was too much and then self like giving herself taps afterwards. Like, yeah, nailed that. Nailed that conversation. Yep.
Unknown Host 3
You go, you guys out.
Teddi Mellencamp
Like, this is. I don't know, it all felt very, very weird to me. Then we get to Julia meeting with a social worker to discuss how it's going with the two boys. Stephanie and her husband go to dinner with her family. I really liked her family.
Unknown Host 3
I did too. We got to see the pictures of the boys. I'm assuming at the beginning of the show they weren't fully adopted, so they couldn't show the pictures of them or show them, show the kids. And then as the season progressed, they finally got to, you know, sign off and see pictures. I'm wondering if later on we'll be able to see the boys. But they look adorable.
Teddi Mellencamp
They look so adorable. Stephanie shares that her dad was shocked when he first met her husband because her dad is too. I think it was one year younger.
Unknown Host 3
One.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. One year younger than him. And she says she wants to mend her relationships with her sisters.
Unknown Host 3
I'm not quite clear about the sister situation. So they, they came to work for Stephanie. Is that what it was? And then there was a falling out.
Teddi Mellencamp
They came to work for her. She gave one a Range Rover or Land Rover. I forget what she said. And one a Mini Cooper. Could you imagine being Cooper1?
Unknown Host 3
No. Who. Why did, why did somebody get the short end of the stick?
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't literally the short.
Tamara Judge
Is that.
Unknown Host 3
What is that the one that got pissed off?
Teddi Mellencamp
They both got pissed off because I guess something along the lines of like their relationship changed once they were working for her, which no shock there.
Unknown Host 3
It's not easy to work with family, that's for sure.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, but I feel like Stephanie, I'm not right about all the things, but I think that maybe not talking about your sisters repeatedly on camera, that's not going to help.
Unknown Host 3
I'm telling you right now, all this.
Teddi Mellencamp
Talking, it ain't going to help their relationship.
Unknown Host 3
And I'm going to tell you right now, if we don't get to see these sisters and all we do is hear about them, I'm going to be so annoyed because this has happened on so many different. The sisters. Right. Don't you hate that? When you hear about these sisters and you hear about them and then we never see them.
Teddi Mellencamp
We never see them. But I feel like these sisters are going to come into play. Can you remind me of something? Why does Stephanie and why did Stephanie and Nicole have an issue?
Unknown Host 3
I don't know that they had an issue. I just think that Stephanie.
Teddi Mellencamp
Was it somebody else?
Unknown Host 3
No. Stephanie used to date Nicole's husband or. I don't even think they're married yet. Her baby daddy.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, okay. So that's.
Unknown Host 3
But it was like years ago.
Teddi Mellencamp
I mean, it's over what, like 15 years ago?
Unknown Host 3
Something like that.
Teddi Mellencamp
Seems like that's enough time.
Unknown Host 3
But don't you think like Stephanie's husband. Yes. He's older, but he's, he's like a very good looking guy. He looks young.
Teddi Mellencamp
He seem, he seems charismatic.
Unknown Host 3
I know.
Teddi Mellencamp
I mean, I, I don't know that I'd kick him off.
Unknown Host 3
No. And she is kind of an old soul.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, she's. I mean, she seem. They seem like a good couple. Yeah, they have a good banter back and forth. Like don't get me wrong, I like her. I just don't like all the money. Talk.
Unknown Host 3
Yeah, I know some people. Yeah, I know. I started to think like, okay, pull it back. We don't need to hear about that.
Teddi Mellencamp
And like, you know, I'm sorry, but I don't. I really. If I have never have to hear about another Birkin again, it's too late.
Tamara Judge
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Unknown Host 3
Am I the only person in the world that doesn't want one?
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I used to have one, but I don't anymore and I don't want to talk about them. And I don't. I know they can't get wet and I'm sick of hearing about it on every franchise.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Then Gertie and Russell go to therapy. She gets emotional about the relationship through her cancer. Gert. She doesn't want Russell to feel like her caretaker anymore. This I could imagine would be hard.
Unknown Host 3
It would. Is she all done with treatment now?
Teddi Mellencamp
She's done with treatment. She is cancer free.
Unknown Host 3
Okay.
Teddi Mellencamp
But she's.
Unknown Host 3
Now she's just dealing with the aftermath of having to go through it, having her family go through it and all that. And she.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, and then she's had a couple surgeries because she wasn't feeling like herself, which I can completely understand. Like, when I stand up and look at myself and I'm like, oh, my, who am I anymore?
Unknown Host 3
But I thought it was in, like he said, he goes, I would really like for her to go to therapy by herself. I don't it. To me, it seems like he. He's not concerned about it. He's not concerned about the surgery she's had or how she looks or her own insecurity or having to take care of her. It really does feel like it's mostly internal with her.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Well, I think then she pointed out her reasoning why. I mean, she said.
Unknown Host 3
What was it?
Teddi Mellencamp
She said that because when she was younger, she had. There were seven kids and only her and her brother were brought to America alone. And so she has all of this feeling of being excluded.
Unknown Host 3
Gotcha. That's right.
Teddi Mellencamp
And so she has, you know, and then it kind of plays out and we think about what happened with Julia and how she didn't get asked to sit at that table, which, by the way, why did we get songs yesterday from Captain Whatever?
Unknown Host 3
Oh, my God. I was gonna ask you the same thing.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, yeah. Yesterday, did you get some messages from Captain Sandy's wife, Leah?
Tamara Judge
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Unknown Host 3
I didn't get a message. I just. She sent me her song.
Teddi Mellencamp
Me too. She tagged us. But why only us?
Unknown Host 3
I don't know. Maybe she wanted us to repost. Maybe. I'm not even sure. I was so I was confused.
Teddi Mellencamp
I was like, I need more information to know what's happening. And then I don't. It was beautiful song. I just. I was confused.
Unknown Host 3
Then.
Teddi Mellencamp
So we get kind of through the Russell and Gertie stuff, and I start to Understand a little bit more what's going on with Gertie and why she has such big reactions. Then Lisa and Larsa meet for lunch. They talk about how they've been having real issues since the summer. If you guys tune in tomorrow, we're going to be re having a little recap with Larsa so we're going to get her side of things. But Larsa tells Lisa she was hurt after Milan and then Larsa is upset that in Milan Jody and Lisa said Larsa was behind the paparazzi getting the photos of.
Unknown Host 3
So how many times do you think they are going to flash up this picture of Marcus doing whatever it is he's doing?
Teddi Mellencamp
What appears to be a white powder.
Unknown Host 3
Appears to be a white powder. I don't want to get involved in it, but how many times is production gonna. I'm like, come on guys now, once, twice.
Teddi Mellencamp
So if it's. And if it's in paparazzi, then you can put it on a show as many times as you want. Is that the rule?
Unknown Host 3
I guess. I guess so. But like we talked to Larsa about it. How would she know where he was at?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, it's not like they were dating then. It's not like they were walking out right. Somewhere together. Like I get back in the day when they used to accuse Larsa of walking out when they were looking at rings or something.
Unknown Host 3
Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
And Larsa was in the pictures. But this. How would she have known what he was doing?
Unknown Host 3
Like a totally different. Weren't they even on a yacht?
Teddi Mellencamp
They were not on a yacht.
Unknown Host 3
They were on the beach. I, I think it's far fetched and I think that if a paparazzi told Lisa that, that they're full of. Because paparazzi, I would imagine, don't give up their source.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, no, I don't.
Unknown Host 3
They're not credible.
Teddi Mellencamp
I've never had that either. But then Lisa goes to the bathroom and calls Alexia and starts crying on the phone. She gets asked to leave the restaurant because she's being loud to go outside now. How embarrassing with Lars again. But Lisa and Larsa is sitting there calling each other narcissists.
Unknown Host 3
It's like, didn't she call her a larcissist?
Teddi Mellencamp
I wonder who gave her that line.
Unknown Host 3
I don't know.
Teddi Mellencamp
And then Larsa apologizes for the wrong she has done and not being the friend she should be when Lisa's father passed. But even after all of this, Larsa still apologizes for the wrong she has done and not being the friend she should be when Lisa's father passed. Now, what I want to talk to Larsa about tomorrow, how close that her and Lisa actually were prior to this falling out. Because I don't really know that answer because I didn't watch the original.
Unknown Host 3
I think that they've been good friends. I don't think that you have. I don't know. I feel like when you have a close friendship and then you do have a falling out, it's so much bigger. Like, if you don't care, you're like, I don't care about you. Like, I don't. Who cares?
Teddi Mellencamp
I mean, in the original run, they weren't even on the same shot. They both weren't on the show. Larsa was on season one and then Lisa was on season two. And three.
Unknown Host 3
And three. Yeah. So I wondered if they were. They maintained a friendship off because wasn't the show off like five or six years?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, it was off for a long time.
Unknown Host 3
Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. I think it was off for like 12 years. Or eight. It was off for eight years.
Unknown Host 3
Holy moly.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Now it came back and it's so good.
Unknown Host 3
It is so good.
Teddi Mellencamp
It's so good. But you guys make sure to tune in tomorrow to hear Lars's interview. One other little snippet that I just read while we were on this podcast. But don't worry, I was fully focusing. But it's that this has nothing related to Housewives. But it does have to do with the Valley that Jax has said he's not returning.
Unknown Host 3
So he's fired.
Teddi Mellencamp
It says he's going to focus on his mental health.
Unknown Host 3
So he's fired. Okay.
Teddi Mellencamp
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Summary of "Mirror Mirror, Who’s the Fakest? (RHOM Recap)" Episode of Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Released on July 17, 2025
In the "Mirror Mirror, Who’s the Fakest? (RHOM Recap)" episode of Two Ts In A Pod hosted by Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, the duo delves deep into Episode 6 of Season 7 of Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM). The episode is packed with drama, emotional confrontations, and intriguing developments among the cast members. Teddi and Tamra provide their unique insights, unpacking the complexities of each character and the unfolding storylines.
The episode begins with the ladies arriving at the luxurious Villa Toscana for what was anticipated to be a "narcissist Greek party." Teddi expresses her initial expectations versus the reality of the event.
Despite the beautiful setting, the event takes an unexpected turn, shifting from a team-building exercise to a competitive game of calling out narcissism among the members.
The party evolves into a game where participants award flags for narcissistic behavior, leading to tension and hurt feelings.
The game exacerbates existing tensions, particularly affecting Lisa, who struggles with the accusations and confrontations.
The delay and subsequent accusations contribute to Lisa feeling isolated and misunderstood, culminating in a public emotional breakdown.
Stephanie's storyline revolves around her relationship with her family and her efforts to mend fences with her sisters. The recap highlights the complexities of working with family and the underlying tensions.
Stephanie’s desire to reconcile with her sisters is juxtaposed against the challenges of navigating familial relationships within the high-stakes environment of RHOM.
Gertie and Russell's subplot explores their journey through therapy following Gertie's battle with cancer. The episode sheds light on Gertie's emotional struggles and Russell's role in their relationship.
Gertie’s emotional aftermath post-cancer treatment and her surgeries reveal deeper insecurities and the strain on her relationship with Russell.
A significant portion of the episode focuses on the strained friendship between Lisa and Larsa. Teddi and Tamra dissect the history and recent fallout between the two.
The long hiatus in their friendship, spanning over eight years, adds layers to their current conflicts, making their interactions more charged and emotionally charged.
The episode also touches upon the role of paparazzi in escalating tensions, particularly regarding Marcus's incident involving a white powder.
The skepticism towards paparazzi reports underscores the fragile nature of public perception and its impact on personal relationships among the cast.
Gertie's journey serves as a focal point for discussions on emotional resilience and personal growth post-trauma.
This backstory provides context to Gertie’s behavior and emotional responses, highlighting the long-term effects of childhood experiences on adult relationships.
Teddi and Tamra wrap up the episode by teasing discussions for the next installment, which will feature an exclusive recap with Larsa, offering her perspective on the ongoing conflicts. They also touch upon unrelated topics briefly but ensure listeners remain focused on the RHOM recaps.
The hosts maintain a balanced tone, blending critical analysis with personal reflections, making the recap both informative and engaging for listeners who may not have watched the episode.
Two Ts In A Pod successfully unpacks the intricate drama and emotional layers of Real Housewives of Miami, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the episode's key moments. Teddi and Tamra's chemistry and insightful commentary make this recap a must-listen for RHOM fans and newcomers alike.