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Teddy Mellencamp
Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
Dolores
Welcome back to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Good morning, Dolores.
Teddy Mellencamp
Good morning. How are you? It's a good afternoon for me.
Dolores
I know it is.
Teddy Mellencamp
It's so cold and it sucks here so bad. I.
Dolores
It's 90 degrees here in Orange County. It's kind of starting to piss me off. I'm like, just because I feel like now the weather today, we're going to have like a very, like, it's going to be delayed and it's not going to get cold until like, March, April, May, it's going to be freezing 32
Teddy Mellencamp
here and I'm itchy. My skin is itchy.
Dolores
Oh, that's how I get up.
Teddy Mellencamp
Big bear.
Dolores
It's always 30 or 40 degrees in big Bear.
Teddy Mellencamp
I worked out today, though.
Dolores
You did? I'm going right after this.
Teddy Mellencamp
You know, I thought of you. I think of you because I know you always go to the gym and I'm like, you know what? I don't feel like going, but I'm gonna go.
Dolores
Just go. Even just going and doing you might motivate me.
Teddy Mellencamp
And you don't even know it.
Dolores
Oh, I love that. So we're gonna recap. Salt Lake City reunion. And this is the second reunion and was good. It was a good reunion. I'll give it. You know what? The scroll. Enough. Enough of the scroll. Why did it have to be on the scroll? Enough of the props, guys.
Teddy Mellencamp
Angie, I love, you know, the costumes away.
Dolores
Costumes and props need to go. Angie hands Andy the scroll with evidence proving Lisa was trolling her because it
Teddy Mellencamp
was her phone number. It's the last four numbers. But wouldn't Lisa know that you can find out whose it is by the last. That's like an amateur move.
Dolores
Well, so I just watch on Instagram, Giorgio, you know, Giorgio says, he's so good. He's so good, and he's really smart about these things.
Teddy Mellencamp
And he's like, Christina Pastina told me he has the best outlooks.
Dolores
Yeah, he does. And he really investigates and looks into it. And he said, it's not possible. It's not possible. So what's possible that they're going to get the phone number, the last four digits? Maybe he said there wasn't a phone number attached to it. Maybe it's been changed now. I don't know, but I'm confused. Is Lisa behind this?
Teddy Mellencamp
It is possible, Giorgio. It's the only thing wrong you've ever said.
Dolores
No, we have to listen.
Teddy Mellencamp
Four digits. But I cannot believe that Lisa wouldn't know that with her security, cyber security company.
Dolores
So you do believe that Lisa was behind this?
Teddy Mellencamp
I'm not saying that she was. I didn't see the number. It's saying she had the account since 2019. So maybe when she made the account, she forgot that you could see who it is.
Dolores
Now, the show premiered in 2020, so why would Lisa have an account in 2019? That's still.
Teddy Mellencamp
A lot of people have a finsta.
Dolores
I don't. I have a rugby account. And I have my account.
Teddy Mellencamp
I don't have. I could barely keep up with mine. If it wasn't for Frankie Funicelli helping me, I would be dead in the water. I didn't even have social media till I got on the show. It's just an Instagram account.
Dolores
It's all bad karma. It really is.
Teddy Mellencamp
Like, you get caught. You get caught. You talk to bloggers, you get caught, you try to put something out about somebody. You try to be like, a fake thing, you get caught. If it's in writing, it's in writing.
Dolores
Well, so is this the new reality? Von Tees, Is this. Isn't this the reason why Monica Garcia was fired from the show for doing the exact same thing?
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, I think it was more. More than that. I think Monica's thing was, like, a lot more invasive. But I. I mean, so was Lisa
Dolores
just supposedly allegedly pumping herself up or was she talking shit about other people?
Teddy Mellencamp
What was the name of the account? It was.
Dolores
It was Candace Story 7.
Teddy Mellencamp
Okay, so that was. It was. She was. Candace Story was liking all of Lisa's things and talking all good about Lisa and then. And then putting. And then, like, trolling Angie. Was it just Angie?
Dolores
I don't know. I don't know. I was just like, I'm so sick of these stories on these shows.
Teddy Mellencamp
Why did they like. But why did they not. But. But when Lisa said, it wasn't me, it's not me, that's not my number, this and that, blah, blah, blah. Why was it dropped?
Dolores
I don't know. But these girls need to get their shit together because they're going to end up like Jersey and put on pause.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, 100%.
Dolores
I mean, we'll get to that. The whole Heather gay. I'm like, what are you doing? You're on ensemble cast. What are you doing? What are you doing? Then Mary tells andy that Robert Jr. Is incarcerated due to not following a restraining order. But Mary's not worried. She's put it in the hands of God, and she said she'd rather see him there than dead, which I totally understand. And she also says she doesn't want to go in there and see him like that.
Teddy Mellencamp
But they do tell he's going to be in for a little while because it's not until February that they're going to let him know how much longer he has to do. I think breaking a restraining order.
Dolores
But it's not just. Did you hear he was tased?
Teddy Mellencamp
Yes. So that means he was trying to fight the cops. He was resisting arrest. They don't you. Because you're standing there saying, okay.
Dolores
So that makes me wonder what he was actually doing.
Teddy Mellencamp
Could have been what he was on. Anyway. It's a mother's nightmare.
Dolores
I mean, it must be hard for her not to go see him. But I think she's doing the right thing because he needs a little tough love. Because if his mom's not going to bail him out, who else does he have moving forward in life, you know, when.
Teddy Mellencamp
No one. No one. So it's just. It's heart sickening for Mary and. And I wish them all the best. And it's really bad. He was saying, you know, his dad's going to see him and bring him books because he wants books to read. I hope he finds himself there. I'm really sorry about that. And then, you know, Mary handled that documentary with such grace.
Dolores
I haven't seen it. I don't even think I want to
Teddy Mellencamp
see it, but I'm just gonna watch it.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Dolores
I mean, when we were at Bravo Con, she talked to me about it a little bit, and she just. She was really kind of sad about it.
Teddy Mellencamp
She said in the bus, she said, listen, it's my jealous sister putting it out about me.
Dolores
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
And none of it's true. And so. Because we thought the documentary was. We didn't know. Right. Had just come out strategic strategically.
Dolores
Right, right, right.
Teddy Mellencamp
And. And, you know, the sister. Well, the sister wanted the. Yeah. Of course she got married. That she got hit and she got mad and whatever. But. So Mary said, don't watch it. She said, it's against me.
Dolores
She said the church has been called a cult since it's been opened. And that's old news. I mean, a lot of people call religions cults a lot.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, she also mentioned that Utah does not understand that religion because they're predominantly Mormon. That's how it is. It's Pentecostal. People didn't understand it, so that's what they're calling it. And it's also. Her family has turned on her.
Tamara Judge
That's sad.
Teddy Mellencamp
It happens on this show all the time. In this business, the wayward sister comes out of the woodwork and tries to ruin your life. But yeah, we. She handled it well. And I feel like because of the way she handled it, it went away.
Dolores
Look what's happening with her Beckhams, man. Like, you just think, like, you know, families don't bother this. And I've seen so many comments because I did kind of go in a rabbit hole with that one. And, you know, people are saying, well, at least we know that celebrities and people like that have the same problems that we have. Yes, there becomes jealousy, angry people. Like, it sounds like Victoria doesn't like the wife.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, it sounds like a lot of people don't.
Dolores
Yeah, more money, more problems.
Teddy Mellencamp
Money's the root of all evil.
Dolores
But
Teddy Mellencamp
yeah, problems come with or without it. So I'd kind of like, rather have it. But.
Dolores
But Brittany. Brittany's annoying me.
Teddy Mellencamp
Andy brings up that Britney said on Watch what Happens live that she had the proof that Seth was unfaithful to Meredith.
Dolores
And then she goes on to say it's hearsay.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, that's not proof.
Dolores
That's not proof I want. She made it sound like she had cold, hard proof. Where is it?
Teddy Mellencamp
Jared, The. The pillar of moral compass over there.
Dolores
If she had proof, she would have shown.
Teddy Mellencamp
It stands in between her and her daughter. She said also like that, that Todd flew to Dubai for Ed Met. Like, what the hell? Are there special ed meds in Dubai?
Dolores
Why does he have to go to Dubai? I'm sure he can just call a doctor and they'll send it to CVS
Teddy Mellencamp
right there he could afford Viagra.
Dolores
Oh, God. I don't know. Britney's just kind of getting on my last nerve. I often. I kind of wonder if she's going to be back.
Teddy Mellencamp
Let's ask Diane. She knows everything about Dubai. Maybe they have special erectile dysfunction. Yeah, Viagra over there.
Dolores
I know, we'll ask. Lisa says that it's Jared who said that. And Jared has said a lot of other crazy things. So they show the unseen.
Teddy Mellencamp
They do a flashback.
Dolores
They do unseen footage.
Teddy Mellencamp
And that was unseen footage. Yeah, I remember that.
Dolores
And it shows Jared not seen saying it on camera, but Lisa trying to get him to say it on camera. So obviously he had said it off camera and he's like, oh, nope, I don't want to get involved. Nope, nope. And so he said it off camera but he wouldn't say it on camera. So it was probably right. No.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, just because somebody doesn't want to say it on camera doesn't mean it's means they don't want to get involved and they don't want to. They didn't want to talk about.
Dolores
They didn't want to get involved. They shouldn't have said it off camera because anything that's said off camera will be brought up on camera.
Teddy Mellencamp
Right. But you know, like I said, Jared's Jared. Who knows? Yeah. I just wish she would, you know, if the daughter's around Jared, go take a vacation.
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Dolores
I have a question for you. When Brittany says when Meredith screams at her, it triggers her because her daughter Olivia had seizures, and Meredith looks like she's having a seizure. When she yells, she, like, glitches and stuff. I mean, talk about a reach.
Teddy Mellencamp
Such a reach. That got on my nerves. You know why that got on my nerves? Because. Just admit you said it. Did she get in trouble? Like, are people okay? So people are going to get mad. They're like, my kid has seizures. Don't use that for a thing, but just say, yeah. I wasn't trying to, like, offend anybody who has seizures. We've used. You know, people can use that as a. Like, you look like you're having a seizure. Calm down. Is that. Is that offensive? No.
Dolores
I mean, no, but the. The way she, like, was serious. She seriously thought that she was having seizures. Not. I don't know. I just. It was just such a reach. It's like she just skinned my brain.
Teddy Mellencamp
Just admit. Just admit you said it the way you said it. And that's it. Yeah.
Dolores
Yeah. And then Andy asked the question that everybody wants to know. Why didn't anyone pick up their phone and record the plane? By the way, I hope to God I don't ever have to hear about this plane situation again.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, then there was the question that I finally was able to get answered was why didn't anybody get up and get involved? Because the plane was descending, okay? Everybody had to be in their jump seats. And the steward. The stewards were in their jump seats, and the girls had to be in there. So, okay, so it didn't happen for five hours. For five hours, right?
Dolores
So they said in the beginning their story's changing, that it happened the entire time and their. Meredith was going off five hours pulling her hair.
Teddy Mellencamp
Okay? So in first class on an international flight, you're not moving the seat. You're not in the back of the plane, okay? It's a big seat. If I get up, I'm not, like, pushing the seat back, Right?
Dolores
You have a whole thing. You have a TV and leg room.
Teddy Mellencamp
I fly first class. I have claustrophobia. If it's over three hours and I can't fly first class, I have a fucking problem.
Dolores
I've never in my life. I am not mad about it.
Teddy Mellencamp
I'm not ashamed of it.
Dolores
I've never, my entire life been in first class and have to hold onto the seat in front of me to get up or to do anything to
Teddy Mellencamp
get over the next person.
Dolores
No.
Teddy Mellencamp
So. And the. And the. It's like almost like your own. Like, it's. No, no, it's not on international flight.
Dolores
Not on international.
Teddy Mellencamp
Domestic.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Dolores
I'll even give that American Airlines, Orange County, New York. Yeah, you can do that.
Teddy Mellencamp
But not.
Dolores
Not like this. But Heather says if somebody were to film, they'd be a piece of. I'm like, they'd be a piece of. Okay. Heather, you were filming Lisa when she lost her ring. So does that mean you're a piece of.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, they showed that. But then Britney got in a lot of trouble for filming something. Right on the bus.
Dolores
That's different. She was secretly filming. Are we are told if something were to go down court it.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, but no one.
Dolores
I. I just. I don't believe it was that big of a deal.
Teddy Mellencamp
I want to know who was sitting next to Britney in first class. You're not.
Dolores
Maybe she had a pod. She could have had a pod. And she was by herself.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, even more so that you're not moving the seat.
Dolores
Yeah. But Whitney said her biggest regret is not recording the plane meltdown.
Teddy Mellencamp
Whitney. Yeah.
Dolores
I don't know. And then I love Mary going, we're definitely not protecting Britney because, you know, she doesn't like her. She's funny.
Teddy Mellencamp
That is so funny. Yeah. No, Mary, when they did all the flashbacks of Mary and how she spoke to everybody, she was the voice of reason all season. You know, Mary's going through her own. Probably one of the worst nightmares we can ever imagine as a mother.
Dolores
She's going through more than anybody on that house right now.
Teddy Mellencamp
And she was the one who made the most fucking sense.
Dolores
I know. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
When Mary. When Mary makes sense.
Dolores
She's come a long way from her, like, first season she was on.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. I mean, I think she's. She's brilliant and I love watching her.
Dolores
Funny. She's funny. Marin says that Heather screeched at her
Teddy Mellencamp
for two months, by the way. So I was watching this with Paul last night while we were having dinner. I had my computer on the chair over here and he goes, oh, screeched. He said, do you guys use that word a lot here? That's a big. That's a big word in Ireland. And I said, we use it when we're referring to a car.
Dolores
Yeah. I don't. I've never. Yeah, exactly. I would never say you're screeching.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, she scre. So it's not like a typical word. She screeched. Screeched at her for two months. Heather says, fuck you to Meredith, they are no longer friends and to buckle up because it's not going to be a fun ride. So what does that mean?
Dolores
That means Heather feels like she needs another receipts proof timeline Screenshot moment Foreign.
Jill Winterstein
Hi, this is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.
Mini Driver
The Irish traveler said when I was 16. You're gonna have a terrible time with men.
Jill Winterstein
Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood a Sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house Spark her unconventional approach to partnership.
Mini Driver
He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.
Jill Winterstein
If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast.
Mind Games Host
What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?
Ben Higgins
When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings.
Mind Games Host
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Carvana Representative
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Jill Winterstein
NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.
Mind Games Host
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Carvana Representative
It's about engineering consciousness.
Mind Games Host
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Teddy Mellencamp
This is wild.
Mind Games Host
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Teddy Mellencamp
Let's go, Grandpa. Wait, you did?
Carvana Representative
Yep, on Carvana. Just put in the license plate, answered a few questions, got an offer in minutes. Easier than setting up that new digital picture frame.
Teddy Mellencamp
You don't say.
Carvana Representative
Yeah, they're even picking it up tomorrow. Talk about fast.
Ben Higgins
Wow. Way to Go.
Teddy Mellencamp
So about that picture frame.
Carvana Representative
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Dolores
So she's having this moment where she's like, you, we're done. We're never going to be friends. And I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing? You're on a show together.
Teddy Mellencamp
You guys need resolve.
Dolores
Yeah. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Is this already walked off the stage?
Dolores
Andy walking off the stage, she's like.
Teddy Mellencamp
They're like, andy, we're sorry. And then they were laughing and Mary's like, it's not funny.
Dolores
No.
Teddy Mellencamp
So like Heather was kind of making a joke about it and put her dress over her and Angie's head and. And Mary's like, no, no, you need to shut up.
Dolores
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
There's no love lost between Heather and Mary ever. Mary doesn't like her. She called her an inbreed.
Dolores
I know, I know. What do you think is the biggest mystery? Meredith's freak out or Heather's black eye?
Teddy Mellencamp
I know the answer to Heather's black eye. I already know the answer, but I think, of course Meredith's freak out. What do you think?
Dolores
Somebody comes with a black eye and can't remember how? I'm calling.
Teddy Mellencamp
They got into a scuffle. They were drinking. Shit. They were drinking. And I think she was Heather and I'm not against her for this. Was protecting her friend because she was on probation before her hearing and if she would have gotten in trouble, she would have got like. If she.
Dolores
Okay, well, the woman's already gone to jail. And she's in jail. Oh, no, she's out of jail now
Teddy Mellencamp
because then that confirms that she was a liar. So now she can never admit to what happened.
Tamara Judge
The secrets.
Teddy Mellencamp
But. But I'm not against her not writing her friend out. I. I actually like her.
Dolores
Okay. Producers are saying that she admitted that Jen Shaw hit her last season. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. I didn't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
See, then you get in trouble for not telling the truth.
Dolores
Yeah, it's the season before. Okay, so Andy.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, okay.
Dolores
With Monica. So we kind of talked about this before, but Andy's like, why did nobody switch seat? Brittany. They agreed the most offensive moment happened. Indecent. And Meredith says to ask producers who was behind her. Andy points out that the producer was in a different class. I mean, if it was that big of a deal, I think the producer behind them would hear. You know what they would have heard?
Teddy Mellencamp
Let me tell you. Just. Let me just tell you something. You know what I would have liked? Instead of a scroll, I would have liked a poster board. Everyone likes their fucking poster boards. And I would have liked them to have the plane where they were seating all the seats. And just like you put where people sit in the reunion. I would have liked to know where everyone was seating. And then from there, as we would be on trial, I would be questioning. And you know what? Meredith is an attorney. She should have held her own case.
Dolores
Yeah, they showed. They did. They showed a little split screen. I remember now. Oh, too much to remember.
Teddy Mellencamp
Too much for. Just open your mouth, guys.
Dolores
Yeah. Meredith says that her issues is because Britney supported a bigot. So we. Let's. Let's dive into this. So Meredith explains that there was a nail tech who was an anti Semitic and that he asked Brittany to leave him a good review. Now the question is, did Brittany know that this nail tech was a bigot? And if she knew, then why would she first of all even go to him or her? I don't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, here's the thing. If somebody asks you, if someone calls you and says, I'm getting so much shit online, would you mind? It was all over social media according to the rest of the women.
Dolores
Right?
Teddy Mellencamp
So, like, she should have known. But there's things that happen on social media that you and I don't know about.
Weight Watchers Representative
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Sometimes things pass you up. Things pass you up and you don't know about it. So don't you think before you write a review, because someone just called you and said that you're being online. Don't.
Dolores
She was Just happy to get a free set of acrylic nails.
Teddy Mellencamp
Okay.
Dolores
But. Well, I get. They. They did it for free, so I was. Of course I'm gonna do it.
Teddy Mellencamp
Doesn't a normal. Well, then you can write a review online saying, he did a great job on my nails. But what did she actually write? That's number one. Number two is, don't you ask someone, well, what are they saying about you? Why are. Why are people giving you shit online? It's just a normal question, like, what's going on? So, yeah, I believe she knew this
Dolores
random nail tech at the nail salon. Meredith had this nail tech in her home.
Teddy Mellencamp
Doesn't mean she knew he was.
Dolores
I don't think. Obviously at the time, she didn't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
She would have never had somebody, like at the time.
Dolores
No, I mean, but this was. You have to keep in mind, like we said, this was all over the news too. This is all over the news. I mean, you know how it is in a small town. Like news, especially bad news, it spreads quickly. So. And. And I hate to say this, but Brittany's not the sharpest tool. She's not. Do you think it's possible that Meredith brought this up to deflect from the plane? There was a moment where Andy asked
Teddy Mellencamp
her, like Andy asked before you got on the plane. And instead of answering that question, just answer it. Yes, I did.
Dolores
I wish she should have said yeah or no. I don't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. Yeah. So did I do more than I remember? Can somebody exactly tell me? Because now one person has for me, described exactly what was happening. Because I'm hearing all different stories.
Dolores
I know.
Teddy Mellencamp
And if it was that bad, why didn't anybody get involved?
Dolores
Do you think Brittany was prepared for this conversation? Did she think. Did.
Teddy Mellencamp
No. No. She should have pads. Yeah.
Dolores
And then Meredith or Brittany says that her and Meredith had a conversation off camera about this and she gave Meredith a big hug and apologized and all
Teddy Mellencamp
that and didn't deny that. Well, she said it wasn't like that.
Dolores
She goes, well, it wasn't like that. But did you notice suddenly Heather Gay jumps in and was like, that's horrible. And she's like coming to Meredith's defense and.
Teddy Mellencamp
Because she's afraid. Yeah, she want. She wants to make sure people don't come at her for not right.
Dolores
It just seemed a little performative to me. A little bit.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, they. They all said maybe she didn't know.
Dolores
Well, I don't know. So Britney says she's tired of being ganged up on and she walks out and that's how the reunion ends.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, Brittany was crying over that. She was really crying. Yeah, but I didn't see Brittany crying when her daughter was in front of her saying, I just want. I just want a mom like, you left us, like, where you would have. I would have been, like, in the fetal position on the floor in front of her and throwing up at the same time. But this. She was crying.
Dolores
All right, guys, thank you so much for tuning in to another episode of two T's in a Pod. And we'll see you soon.
Teddy Mellencamp
See you soon. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Date: January 22, 2026
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The episode is a lively and opinionated recap of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) Reunion Part 2, with Teddi, Tamra, and guest Dolores dissecting drama, scandals, and mysteries from the episode. The hosts pull back the curtain on housewife tactics, social media schemes, family drama, and what’s real versus just for show.
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If you haven’t watched, this recap will bring you up to speed on all the drama, intrigue, and inside-outsider perspectives, with wit and side-eye only housewives themselves can deliver.