Moment of Silence for Brian (RHOP Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Moment of Silence for Brian (RHOP Recap)
Date: December 2, 2025
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge reunite to recap the latest drama from The Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP) Season 10, Episode 9. The duo dives into key storylines, from the ongoing saga of Stacy and her battles with the rest of the cast, to updates from the broader Bravo universe, touching on notable headlines and relationship gossip. They also weigh in on the infamous “gang-up” dynamic playing out on RHOP, offer behind-the-scenes observations, and share plenty of their own experiences and opinions with their trademark candor, humor, and honesty.

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Main Discussion Highlights

Life Updates and Banter

• Teddi’s Travels & Stage Shows

  • Teddi is recording from Washington, D.C., where she’s performing onstage Q&As with Sonja Morgan. She emphasizes the fun and positive audience response. (04:05)
  • Tamra expresses interest in joining future events:

    “I want to do some of those with you…Sonya’s a good time girl.” (04:24)

• Thanksgiving Catch-Up

  • Both hosts recount illnesses in their families over Thanksgiving. Tamra discusses persuading her husband Eddie to finally see a doctor for his ongoing sickness—turns out he had bronchitis. (06:44)
  • Light-hearted commentary on raising kids and “pre-hormonal” phases at home. (07:48)

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Bravo & Housewives Headlines

• Portia Williams’ New Romance

  • Portia announces her relationship with Patrice, marking her first public relationship post-divorce.

    “People magazine reported on Portia hard launching her new relationship…” (08:51)

• Candy & Todd Legal Drama

  • The pair discuss the lawsuit involving Kandi Burruss and Todd Tucker’s restaurant business, with both expressing support for Kandi.

    “Kandi is a professional woman. She’s a brilliant woman…” – Teddi (10:08)

• Salt Lake City Divorce News

  • Tamra updates on Mary Cosby’s son’s divorce and multiple arrests. (12:53–13:15)

• Housewives on Broadway

  • The ladies reflect on Housewives appearing as Roxie in “Chicago”—especially Ariana and Lisa Rinna—and how Bravo stars draw crowds to Broadway.

    “They had never sold out the way they did for Ariana…” – Teddi (14:42)

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RHOP Recap: Potomac Drama

Stacy and the “Gang-Up”

• Ongoing Group Dynamics

  • Both Teddi and Tamra point out the problematic tendency for the RHOP women to gang up on one member (currently Stacy), wishing for more one-on-one confrontations.

    “I just want to see a one on one. Please.” – Teddi (06:27)

• Stacy’s Reputation: Liar or Scapegoat?

  • The group accuses Stacy of lying frequently, yet the hosts argue the rest of the cast isn’t letting issues play out naturally.

    “They gang up. It reminds me of schoolyards…” – Teddi (05:44)
    “The more they go in after her, we lose track of what the subject is…” – Tamra (23:00)
    “[Stacy's] an onion. There’s a lot of layers here.” – Teddi (29:31)

• Stacy’s Persona: Contradictions & Entertainment

  • Tamra is fascinated by Stacy’s dual nature—sweet and proper one second, taking shots and holding her own the next.

    “Stacy is confusing to me…she’s entertaining…she’s an onion.” – Tamra (29:29-29:36)
    “She has the most QVC voice in the world.” – Teddi (28:47)

• On Lying and Cross-Examination

  • Both agree that Stacy is guilty of "white lies," but note the rest of the cast doesn’t let her explain herself before attacking.

    “They don’t give her a chance to explain herself before they’re screaming in her face. If you let her talk, she will trip on her own words.” – Teddi (48:33)

Giselle: Stirring the Pot

• Giselle’s Role
  • Giselle is openly accused of being the chief instigator, especially in stirring conflict between Wendy and Angel.

    “Giselle’s a stir of the show. We know that.” – Tamra (23:36)

  • The phrase "she has smoke for Wendy" is analyzed and mocked.

    “Giselle learn a lot about words on this show…” – Teddi (23:49)

Relationship Drama & Interpersonal Rumors

• Chris and Stacy Allegations
  • The group discusses whether Stacy reached out to Chris Samuels inappropriately. Teddi expresses that she wouldn’t tolerate such behavior if true, but cautions against judgment without proof.

    “If Stacy did that, and I’ll say it again, I’d be done with her, because that is not something that you do.” – Teddi (21:15)

  • Tamra observes that Monique (Chris’s ex) is surprisingly unbothered but warns Stacy to keep her distance.

    “She just said, ‘Listen, I don’t want to be around people that are hanging out with my ex.’ And I get that.” – Tamra (46:08)

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Emotional Family Segments

• Ashley’s Complex Family

  • Focus shifts as Ashley has a heartfelt scene with her mom, worrying about her health and her relationship with a problematic boyfriend.

    “The woman’s in love with this man. She’s so in love, she can’t smell bacon.” – Teddi (31:32)

  • Tamra shares that women sometimes stay in relationships out of fear of being alone, not self-worth.

    “When women get to a certain age, they stick with a man because it’s better than being alone…” – Tamra (31:56)

  • Tearful moment as Ashley tells her mother:

    “Ma, you’re the heart that beats out of my body.” – Cited by Tamra (33:17)

  • Both hosts relate deeply to the mother-daughter bond.

• Wendy’s Family and Finances

  • The hosts are bemused by Wendy’s storyline, as she and her sister are always overdressed, and her mother openly admits to enjoying Wendy’s wealth.

    “Why is the sister and Wendy always dressed like they’re going to a wedding in the middle of the day?” – Teddy (42:02)
    “What about Wendy’s mom saying she’s enjoying Wendy’s money?” – Tamra (42:15)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Housewives Fights:

  “They gang up. It reminds me of the schoolyards… she rarely has anyone on her side and she’s taking on all these people coming at her…”
  — Teddi Mellencamp (05:44)

• On White Lies:

  “Wendy says we can’t rule out Stacy because she lied in the past, lied in the present, and she’ll probably gonna lie in the future. So everybody pretty much knows Stacy is a liar. But I feel like more people should act like Wendy. They’re not like, lies that hurt people…It’s white lies.”
  — Teddy Mellencamp & Tamra Judge (48:09)

• On Family Dynamics:

  “Ma, you’re the heart that beats out of my body.”
  — Ashley (as recounted by Tamra Judge) (33:17)

• On Broadway and Housewives Fame:

  “They had never sold out the way they did for Ariana because it was during that transition with Tom and everything that had happened.”
  — Teddy Mellencamp (14:42)

• On Loyalty and Trust in Housewives World:

  “There’s some things you could trust people with, and there’s some things that you can’t.”
  — Teddy Mellencamp (43:04)

• On Confrontation Tactics:

  “If you let her talk, she will trip on herself, and you’ll trip on her own words…You guys, don’t let her freaking talk. Let her Talk.”
  — Teddy Mellencamp (48:36)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Life updates, on-stage shows, family chat: 04:01–08:42
• Headlines (Portia, Kandi, SLC divorce, Broadway): 08:42–15:10
• Potomac Recap: Group dynamics and Stacy analysis: 21:05–31:46
• Ashley’s family emotional segment: 30:45–34:07
• Breakdown of loyalty/trust in the cast: 42:42–44:07
• Closing thoughts, upcoming RHOP preview: 30:18–30:45; 49:20–50:08

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Tone & Final Thoughts

The tone throughout is classic Teddi and Tamra—wry, insider-y, occasionally irreverent, and always invested. They are quick to dissect the psychology of cast behavior, call out patterns (the never-ending “gang up”), drop affectionately blunt observations, and weave their own life experience into the analysis.

Final words:

“This was fun. And I cannot wait till next week. Next week’s the bomb.” – Teddy Mellencamp (50:28)
“That’s the episode, just getting better and better, guys.” – Tamra Judge (50:33)

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Transcript

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tama.

[Tamara T]

Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Hi, Dolores. Hi.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How are you?

[Tamara T]

You're not at home. Where are you? Give me all the details.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm in Washington, D.C. and me and Sonya do the, you know, the. The onstage.

[Tamara T]

How'd it go?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So much fun. DC was really fun last night. The people here are so nice. So, yeah, it was fine. And now we're going to New Hampshire. We're off to New Hampshire as soon as I'm done here.

[Tamara T]

I want to do some of those with you. I have to talk to you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Just come. You know what?

[Tamara T]

Sonya's a good time Sonia is a good time girl.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's a good time girl, and she's a girl's girl.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, I love Sonia.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love Sonia.

[Tamara T]

And what do you do? Like you go on stage and you just as a Q and A or.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, we have a moderator and we just kind of converse with the crowd, have a great time. Sometimes the crowd gets involved in talking about other shows. Everybody thinks Stacey's a liar. And, you know, isn't it funny how.

[Tamara T]

It'S so obvious that she doesn't tell the truth? And we'll get into it when we get on the show, but she is a fan favorite. And it's because. I believe it's because so many people are. All the cast are going so hard for her. And whenever you do that, you know what happens?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They gain the sympathy of the. Of the. Of. Of our friends and.

[Tamara T]

Which is so crazy. It's crazy because she lies about a lot of stuff, but everyone's. They're okay with it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But you know, here's the thing. Because the girls are making her right even when she's wrong.

[Tamara T]

Yes. What would you do, just ignore somebody like that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I would have a one on one with her. They gang up. It reminds me of the schoolyards when there used to be a fist fight and everybody used to gang around, you know, and she, she rarely has anyone on her side and she's taking on all these people coming at her. And like when they, when these girls see. See a conversation, they all go running over, what happened to. And I noticed and I wanted to take notice to this because it's in every scene, every fight. Is everybody standing around in a circle. I want to see just one on one. Okay. That's right.

[Tamara T]

Well, doesn't happen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's not at all.

[Tamara T]

It's not going to happen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm on 10 episodes in and I just want to see a one on one. Please.

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[Tamara T]

How was your Thanksgiving?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was so nice. Everyone got sick. I'm like food poisoning.

[Tamara T]

No. What do you mean no?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, like how you felt after Covid con.

[Tamara T]

Well, I finally talked Eddie into going to the doctor. He went.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's still sick, huh?

[Tamara T]

He went Thanksgiving morning. I. I'm like, you need to go to the doctor. He's not. Just for my own sanity. Do you know what it's like being around somebody that's coughing non stop? It's like you can't like just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, it's the background noise getting to, isn't it?

[Tamara T]

Oh my God. I mean, I feel bad for him, but he won't go to the doctor. And I'm like, you need to go to the doctor. So I made an appointment for him. He went. He's got bronchitis, so. Oh.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

See, it's a good thing because I.

[Tamara T]

Know pneumonia, it would have turned into pneumonia. So I said, see, you should listen. He's like, yes, mama, I get it. But he hates going to the doctor.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, mama, that's right.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. So he's on antibiotics now. He's still coughing. Not as bad, but he's still. It's been two weeks. Two weeks. I got over it Pretty good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wife.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. So my mom came into town.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You have to rest.

[Tamara T]

The kids were here.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Nice.

[Tamara T]

Ava was over with her mom and we, we had a. We had a good time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's so nice. How old is Ava now?

[Tamara T]

10. She's going to be 11.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

February and is when they. 10. 11 is when girls become really Bitchy.

[Tamara T]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's like not saying that Ava is, but I'm saying like that it's. I think it's pre hormonal. It's right there.

[Tamara T]

It's coming in and she's got the hormones.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You feel like an alien just came down and took over your child.

[Tamara T]

She's a smart ass. She's like me and she.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Does she do a lot of cartwheels?

[Tamara T]

No. She's very kind of like a tomboy and she's very smart assy, but so sweet. It's, she's, she's, she's funny. She's the, like the, she's a clown.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But reminds me of you.

[Tamara T]

Sounds like she's like me. She literally at school is like, everybody loves her. She's really sweet. Then she comes home and she's like, what are you looking at? Do you know what I mean? Like, she's, she's, that's the end. She's. Yeah.

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[Tamara T]

So there's a few headlines we need to get into now. Portia Williams introduces her new romance with girlfriend Patrice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That I didn't like print out because I'm in very happy. Yeah.

[Tamara T]

So People magazine reported on Portia hard launching her new relationship with her girlfriend on Instagram. This is the first time instoficial. This is the first time Portia has made her dating life public since her divorce. So speaking another divorce, Candy and her husband Todd, they are faced with some legal issues with their restaurant. According to Us Weekly. I'm leaning more towards Candy side. Candy is a legit business person and would never let anything like this happen. But Candy and Todd Tucker were dealing with illegal drama days before their shocking split. Candy, their, their Burris Tucker restaurant group, which is run by obviously Todd and Candy filed court docs leading for an emergency court hearing against the landlord. So it sounds like they have allegedly some landlord that' not doing their part. So landlord is suing them about for 154,000 saying for back rent, repairs, things like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But well, what the repairs that he didn't do. That's what I'm saying. Candy's a professional woman. She's a brilliant woman. I mean for all of you who did not see her speak, I'm sure did they leave her whole. Remember Tam? We were like, oh my God, her talking. Yeah.

[Tamara T]

No, I don't know. I didn't, I didn't see it on tv, but obviously we were there in person. It was like a five minute speech easily. And it was so well said.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Amazing. And the funny thing about Candy Is she's always smiling. Even when she's talking or when she's drama's hitting, she's always smiling. She has a perpetual smile on her face. How can you ever not like or be mad at this girl for two steps?

[Tamara T]

I love Candy on every level. I love her. I admire her. She is a boss babe. She is talented. She's everything. Well, another. Candy has a girlfriend now. Allegedly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's a triple threat.

[Tamara T]

She's a triple threat. So Candy and Todd's living girlfriend. This is the first I'm hearing about this. It was never talked about on the show. She has now turned into Candy's girlfriend and Todd is out. You know what they say, like three is a crow.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did anyone else know about this? Listen, I know a lot of people live. This is a lifestyle, right? And more people than we think live like this. And it was never something I would do. It's not for me. And I judge no one for how they live. I do not judge anyone. But I have never seen a place where this works. It doesn't work.

[Tamara T]

It really is a.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because what happens is that person. Yeah, yeah. Someone catches more feelings and that's what happens.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, well, it happens.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

So right away you know who she is. I blamed him.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, we always stick up for the girl. Yeah. Her name is Fatim, I think. Fatim Fatim. She was a guest on season 14 of Atlanta. She's a friend of Charade's. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, really? Isn't that crazy? So Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Mary Cosby's son, his. You know, he got married a couple of seasons ago. Maybe it was last season. Well, the wife has filed for divorce. According to people. She filed for divorce From Robert Cosby Jr. The filing comes after his recent arrest. I don't know if you heard, but he was arrested while we were at Bravo Con and previously arrested in September.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So this is his second arrest.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, I believe so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is this the girl that was in bed with him?

[Tamara T]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And they were like, eating in bed.

[Tamara T]

They lived at Mary's house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They lived at Mary's house. And then Mary found out that they got married. She didn't even know they got married. Poor Mary. So wish them well. I hope it all strains out.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. So the only other thing I can think of is Whitney from Mormon Wives. She was on Dancing with the Stars. I thought for sure she was going to win. Just from the little I saw. She is now, from what I hear, going to be Roxy on Broadway.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wow. That's amazing.

[Tamara T]

Very Talented. I thought that her dancing very. Right up there with the pros.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is she a professional dancer? Is she dance?

[Tamara T]

She has been trained, but I don't think it's like something she ever did for a living or anything like that. I think she was okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, it still counts. I'm sorry.

[Tamara T]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's not like me getting up there.

[Tamara T]

You don't want to see me up there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So.

[Tamara T]

Did you ever go see any of the other housewives that were on Broadway?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Teresa was on.

[Tamara T]

What?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, wait, no. Theresa was on Dancing with the Stars.

[Tamara T]

No, I meant Broadway.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did I ever go.

[Tamara T]

I did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I saw Ariana. I went to see Ariana.

[Tamara T]

It was great.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She was Roxy in Chicago. She had the lead. She was amazing. She did great. Isn't it?

[Tamara T]

She was crazy that you can go from housewives or Mormon wives and then now you're on Broadway. And it's like the fact that they keep bringing in different reality talent to be Roxy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'll tell you why. You wanna know why not? Because they're the best Roxies. Because it draws a crowd.

[Tamara T]

It brings people in.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They had never sold out the way they did for Ariana because it was during that transition with Tom and everything that had happened. So she started to get a lot of stuff. And that was like in the beginning when the story was still hot and she started to get all of her endorsements again.

[Tamara T]

Lisa. Didn't Lisa Runa do it as well? So as Lisa, it was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I didn't know Lisa did it. I know she did.

[Tamara T]

Erica did it, and then Ariana and. Yeah, it's. It's.

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[Tamara T]

What an opportunity. Yeah. That I will never get. If you can sing and dance, can.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I do something else?

[Tamara T]

I wish I could do that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I've always kind of wanted to get into unscripted a little bit.

[Tamara T]

Really?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, have the time on my hands. My show's been off now. How long? Getting a little much.

[Tamara T]

Two years, five days and seven hours.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think you're actually on the money.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara T]

So let's get into Potomac. This is season 10, episode 9 the ladies are Are you in? At Giselle's party, they call Chris Samuels. Now they call him and he's like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's like, leave me alone.

[Tamara T]

Do you believe him or do you think like he's just trying to cover for Stacy?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If Stacey did that, and I'll say it again, I would be done with her because that is not something that you do.

[Tamara T]

I think more about Stacy is going to come out. I really do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, look like that coming up, right? So until I have the proof, because I do not blame people for something unless I have it in black and white, I don't think they're all kind.

[Tamara T]

Of ganging up on Stacy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And I don't like it.

[Tamara T]

I don't. Yeah, I don't like it. Either. But what about Giselle saying Stacey isn't to be true, trusted around husbands or children? It's kind of. Kind of a stretch, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, apparently Stacy wasn't she out to lunch with someone and some guys came up to them and one guy said, oh, I'm marriage, because that's not. Got nothing to do with me. Is that who they were talking about? Stacy?

[Tamara T]

They were. They were.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is that true?

[Tamara T]

I don't know. You never know. Like Luke says, the producer of Housewives. I never know what you guys are telling me is true or not. Okay, well, it's there, you know, you never know. So. Yeah, but you know, Stacy has had it and she's like, I'm out of here. I'm just leaving.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She had to have. I'm surprised she lasted this long because again, like the. The second part of this fight when everybody was standing around her, going at her and going at her. This is a common trend almost in every episode. At what point do we. It's not all five of your fights back the fuck off.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

And let whoever Stacy's got this problem with go between the two of them? I don't know.

[Tamara T]

Is it just me?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is it me? Please explain this to me.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, well, I. No, I understand what you're saying, but it's like the girl. Yes, we know that she lies a lot, but the more they go in after her, like, we lose track of.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What the subject is instead of getting to the bottom.

[Tamara T]

I mean, she can't even. Cece can't walk to the elevator. She's walking herself out. And Giselle comes up and she's like, I've already pushed the button. Giselle. While I'm making sure, like, just let her go. It's even a gang up when the woman tries to leave.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara T]

I mean, Giselle has it out and Giselle, like, you know, Giselle's a stir of the show. We know that Giselle tells Wendy that angel said she has smoke for Wendy. Giselle's the one that said it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Giselle learn a lot about words on this show.

[Tamara T]

I know, I know. She has smoke.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Smoke.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. She went up to her and said, you have smoke for Wendy. Like, she said it. She didn't. It wasn't even her words. It's just like, it wasn't Angel's words. Those were Giselle's words. But she. She just loves kind of stirring that pot and bringing people together.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But the thing is, if angel has smoke for Wendy, why is it with Wendy when Giselle's the one that said.

[Tamara T]

Well, I think there was a misunderstanding. The catfish. But I think this was about saying hi to her at the airport. This is not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Angel's very sensitive.

[Tamara T]

Very sensitive.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not be so sensitive and stop running to her husband and stand on her own two feet. By the way, I do appreciate her running to her husband and him being there so much. I think it's. He's such a nice guy.

[Tamara T]

He is. But picking a fight, Wendy, is not the right move. Don't pick a fight with Wendy. She didn't say hi.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He wasn't.

[Tamara T]

You didn't say say hi either.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Exactly. She's very insecure. She needs to get thicker skin. Otherwise, her days on this show is over. Girl.

[Tamara T]

I think she's trying to figure out her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Her. Where she stands. Yeah.

[Tamara T]

Where she stands in the show. Like, I don't think that it's normal for her to want to argue and fight. So when she does it, it looks.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's too much for her.

[Tamara T]

Calculated.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you think that she's cut out for this? I'm asking you.

[Tamara T]

As of right now, no. But when I see her talking to her husband or to friends. Yes. Be that person. Be that outspoken person. And her husband is like water off a duck's butt. Like, who cares?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara T]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And he gave her the right advice. See, you know, there was something. They repeat themselves a lot when they come up with a phrase. I'm just.

[Tamara T]

Sorry, this is a bit of a pet peeve.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So Wendy takes Stacy over to the corner after she. She got attacked in the corner of the table over there.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then Wendy goes, girl, you up against the ropes. You up against the ropes. You're up against the ropes. Like, how many times are you going to say it? Giselle, how many times are you going to say, I press the button, I press the button. I press the button. Okay. You know how. How. I can't even listen to music where the same phrase is repeated a lot if there's a song where they keep repeating the same thing. No, I mean like a regular song. Like, me and Paul fight over the Sonos. I'm like, this song is fucking repeating the same beat over and over again. So that's why I'm having a problem with Potomac right now, because they say the same thing. Chin check. Chin check.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara T]

So Kane, Stacey get into arguments. Stacy talks about how Kay doesn't have a husband. Is this. I just really think, like, Stacy talking about how Kiana doesn't have a husband, but is always talking about bmo. Stacy, you just got your husband back, sweetie. You're not even married. You're divorced. So I don't think that's a flex.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So then she says, where's your ring? And Kiara says, your ring looks a little bit cloudy to me.

[Tamara T]

And. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then she's like, oh, you mean like the ring you don't have? Like, Stacy is on it.

[Tamara T]

But she's. But here, Stacy is confusing to me. Stacy has this very. And that's why I see the girl's side where they're like, oh, using the QVC voice and very proper and all this stuff. But then she's over there taking shots, and she's got a tramp stuff stamp tattoo on her lower back, and she's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, holding her own like a motherfucker there.

[Tamara T]

I know she's not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What do you think she is? No. Can I just say, though, she looks the part, because, like, I know I look like I'm walking down the street and I look like I'm from Patterson because I'm like, ooh, Stacey's svelte and tall and pretty and not even a beauty mark anywhere.

[Tamara T]

And you see her in a bathing suit. She's got a tramp stamp.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You don't know a lot of people. Well, how old is she?

[Tamara T]

I don't know. I had mine lasered off.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's in the 40s. I did not get a tramp stamp. Thank you. And I'm very happy because right now it'd be down past under my ass.

[Tamara T]

It should be in the crack of your ass.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It starts at the top of the ass and then at the. At the, like, little turn there, and then it goes right down. Like my mother said, it's just all going to fall. So what do you mother had to say was that to me? And I never got one right.

[Tamara T]

Right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I can't have more as lifts that I've had.

[Tamara T]

Stacy is confusing to me. Yes, she's entertaining. She's so entertaining. But you see this girl that's so angelic, and then in the corner, she's yelling, go run after Greg. Go beg. Like, she has these words and it doesn't match to this really sweet, innocent girl.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can I tell you? And I swear to God, this happens. I woke up in this lovely hotel today. I put my feet on the ground and the first thing I thought about was Stacy. I thought about Stacy because I thought about, like, if there was anybody born to do something, she has the most QVC voice in the world. I don't know what she gets paid. I don't know what it is. But this girl. There will never be another person meant for QVC like Stacey. I'm sorry.

[Tamara T]

I wonder why she's not doing it. QVC's still around, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Of course it is.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. I know that shop. HSM or something like that or something. But QVC has been around for decades.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, let me know why.

[Tamara T]

She doesn't want to do it anymore.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So there's a lot to unravel. Stacy's an onion. There's a lot of layers here.

[Tamara T]

There is. She's good tv. And let's just. I'm gonna say it like she's running the show right now. It's the Stacy show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And they're giving it to her, girls. You're giving it to her on a silver platter. Let her stand on her loan, her own. And. And the fans will call her out. Let the fans take care of business because you're making her popular.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. They need to back off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Goes in hard on her.

[Tamara T]

I'm surprised that Wendy doesn't go after her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wendy doesn't go for her either.

[Tamara T]

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

By the way, Wendy looked good in that green dress.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. She really.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know, I think that episode 11, I'm just gonna say, is the one to watch. If you didn't watch one episode in Potomac. From what I see in the coming attractions, because, you know, I use. I show my age when I say that in the coming attractions. If you didn't see what's going on next week, girl, then you're missing out. You are. This was. I. I almost, like, cannot wait. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it live, baby.

[Tamara T]

You are. Oh, my gosh. So we see Ashley and her mom and they talk about Josh. They don't only talk about Josh, but they also talk about her health and her relationship with Ashley's mom's boyfriend. Long term boyfriend, but he doesn't work and he's got a drinking problem, allegedly, according to Ashley.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think Ashley lies ever.

[Tamara T]

No, she does.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Very honest.

[Tamara T]

Josh. She's admitting he's not for her. He is young. He doesn't have the experience she. She has. She doesn't want any more kids. She would like to be married, but he's not the one. Even her uncle agrees that she needs to let Josh go now. Her mom, I worry about her. Like, I think if she was my mom, I would move her into my house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, the woman's in love with this man. She's so in love, she can't smell bacon. That's what she's.

[Tamara T]

My aunt used to Say she can't smell bacon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's working, she loves that man so much she can't smell bacon.

[Tamara T]

I've never heard that before, but so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm gonna say that this woman has a low self esteem. I don't know if she knows her own words. She's a beautiful person.

[Tamara T]

I think when women get to a certain age, they stick with a man because it's better than being alone. And I think this is a situation. And Ashley, you know, the family doesn't really care for this guy, doesn't think that he contributes to the household. And the mom, I don't know how old she is, but she's working her ass off. Younger than us, didn't have to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think the mom, when the mom. See, I don't know, because when. I don't know if it's a companion thing or if it's this woman doesn't know her worth kind of thing because when she met him, this guy's been around a long time. She was much younger than us, Tamara. So like at our age, I say, ah, you look for a companion. When that mom met that man, she was very young. And Ashley, this isn't the first time I've seen Ashley try to bring her mom's attention to this man because she's working 12 hours a day. And I feel sorry for the mom because me too. I think it's a not know your worth, low self esteem issue with her to accept that from this man. Or listen, it's just she's in love with him. I see women at all ages succumb to this and, well, I hope she.

[Tamara T]

Goes to the doctor because coughing up blood is not something a serious issue. It's a serious issue. It's not something you can just ignore.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

When Ashley scares me, yes, absolutely. And when Ashley said to her, I got a little choked up. When Ashley said to her, ma, you're the heart that beats out of my body. It's almost like Ashley saying to her mother, I've been through divorce, I'm a single mother. I've been through financial ruins. I've been through a lot, mom, but I can know I can't do it without you. So you have to be here for me. And I look at my mom like that. It's hard. Like my mom isn't always. Like, she doesn't know how to clean. She didn't teach me how to clean, she didn't teach me how to cook. But she loves me unconditionally and loves me and she tells me what I don't want to hear. She tells me she's there for me no matter what and I can't picture my life without my mother and it scares me at the thought of it. And I and I resonate with what Ashley's saying right now.

[Tamara T]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara T]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sucks. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tamara T]

I think that Kiana, I. I met her at BravoCon and we interviewed her. And I love her. Love her. I think that she's so annoyed with who Stacy is that it's getting the best of her. It really is. And I've been there. I've been in those situations where, you know, somebody is not what they're portraying.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They are.

[Tamara T]

And you are like, I can't let this go. You are not this person.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

See, I have seen this on my show.

[Tamara T]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And guess who wins?

[Tamara T]

The other person. I've learned that the hard way.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Stacy is making her swallow her tongue. But, you know, I think she needs to pay more attention on her relationship because when, you know, by the way, I want to see more of her brother on the show.

[Tamara T]

By the way, I think everybody wants to see more of her brother. I mean, the genes in that family are insane.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The mother's beautiful. But let's talk about the brother for a minute.

[Tamara T]

Sisters, let's talk about the brother.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The Irish Twin. He's. Anything you want to say. He is. He's. He's a lovely man. And I just. I don't know what else to say.

[Tamara T]

God really blessed that family.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They are very blessed. And you know what? Her mother's not wrong. Don't move back in unless you get a ring. I don't care that he's buying you. Is he putting your name on the condo and paying it off? Because putting your name on something that isn't paid off don't mean.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I need more information on this. I don't know if they should get married, but if he's gonna buy you a condo, just make sure that it's in your name and it's paid off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's okay for me to do. Okay. It's okay for me to take a gift paid off without a commitment. As long as it's paid off. Not okay for you. You are young. You can waste your child bearing years if you want children with this guy who's jerking you off until it's too late, dumps you. And then like the old tale goes, he gets married within six months and has a kid with someone else. Do you want this? You will never. If he want.

[Tamara T]

They've been together for a while. If he wants to marry her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He would have married her already.

[Tamara T]

He would have married her already.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Don't have a wedding then. And she's so married at the justice of the peace.

[Tamara T]

Just take your damn condo and. And kick him out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Kick him to the curb. You're gonna move in and. Okay. He's gonna get. In my years, they used to say he could buy the cow without the milk or buy the milk without buying the cow. How's it go? I haven't heard it in so long.

[Tamara T]

I haven't either.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They don't use it anymore.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. Can we just have a moment of silence for Brian? Damn, he's good looking.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I won't talk.

[Tamara T]

He is. We need more Brian. Okay. Bravo. Give Brian his own show. I'm sure it'd be a big hit. So Wendy talks to her sister and mom. Wendy's dad didn't call her on her birthday, which I like. She hasn't seen her dad in 20 years. I just. I don't know. I just feel like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think this is for the show. Sorry.

[Tamara T]

This is for the show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wendy, I love you, but. Sorry. Okay.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

The mother's like, I don't know why he's calling. I'm making out here. I'm spending your money And I don't know why he isn't too. That's basically what the mother said.

[Tamara T]

I mean, they're just walking around that house talking about how much money Wendy has, and I'm over there staring at her jewelry.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But why is the sister and Wendy always dressed like they're going to a wedding in the middle of the day?

[Tamara T]

I don't. Well, Wendy's quite dressy, too. I wonder. She always dressed like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she does. I think she does. You can't make that up.

[Tamara T]

What about Wendy's mom saying she's enjoying Wendy's money?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what I'm saying. Like, she's like, I don't know what your father's problem is, but I'm good with you guys.

[Tamara T]

Oh, my God. So Ashley, Kiana, Monique, Stacy, and Wendy. Well, they're all together. Wendy tells the girls that Stacy doesn't want to have the conversation with Monique in front of Kiana because she doesn't trust her.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Tamara T]

This came up on our show. They're saying they don't trust me. Anybody that knows me is close to me. I'm the most trustworthy person in the world. However, do you trust. I trust anybody on. Do you trust. Thank you. I trust you. Do you trust anybody on your cast?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do I try. I. I trust everybody the same. Listen, here's the thing. There's some things you could trust people with, and there's some things that you can't.

[Tamara T]

Right. And.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And there's different things I would trust each person with.

[Tamara T]

There you go. But she's like, we don't trust. We don't trust Stacy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But then, you know, there was a part of me for a minute, Tamara, that made me think, is there a rat on their ship? Did you not go there for a second in your head?

[Tamara T]

Yes, but I feel like it didn't last long when. When you're talking about how it's getting back to Chris, Is that what you're talking about? Well, I think that Wendy broke it down really well. And I didn't realize that Angel's husband is friends with Chris. So angel could have went home and said something, you know, after that scene. Like, yeah, you know what?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

By the way, angel tells her husband everything. I know everything.

[Tamara T]

So it could have been something as simple as that. You know, Stacy bringing out her phone and saying, like, well, see, he didn't respond.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Very, very credible point. You know, if Cookie's gotten the word, it's going back to him. So it's another strong point.

[Tamara T]

It's kg. I Mean, it could have been anybody. Anybody at this point wants to make sure it's not her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's harder to prove. How many times will I say on the show, it's harder to prove you're innocent than it is to prove you're guilty? Sorry. So Stacy's got her hands full here.

[Tamara T]

And then, but Ashley wasn't buying it. She's like, we know that you can delete Ashley and. And Giselle and Kiara. They just do not want to give Stacy anything. Not one nugget.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Listen, regardless of what she text, what might have been deleted, I believe, okay, that he said you. You still see what he's saying? What's the matter? You can't get back to me?

[Tamara T]

Yeah. So that proves that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why would he say that if he.

[Tamara T]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hit me up. You didn't get back to me. And then even if she did, first of all, I don't like the way he's talking to her.

[Tamara T]

Hit me up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's kind of nasty, you know, a little aggressive.

[Tamara T]

I kind of remember what he looks like. Like, no, no, no.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's like, he doesn't look like Brian. No, like, he looked like Brian back there.

[Tamara T]

Is he rich? Is that what it is? So.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I don't know. Doesn't that make up for some things?

[Tamara T]

Yeah. Yeah. So Stacy's saying, I never dated Chris. Never dated him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can I ask you something, though? Why did Stacy sit on these texts? Why didn't she say it right from the beginning here?

[Tamara T]

Because Stacy's shady. We know that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know that. Well, you know what? Why should she have to prove I'd be like, you and I called, and what are you gonna do about it? Because if you don't, I didn't call. But you know what? At this point, Tamara, this is how I'd be Stacy. Okay, you all want to think I called, all right, I called. What are you gonna do about it?

[Tamara T]

Yeah, we're friends.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There you go.

[Tamara T]

I mean, stay. Monique seems very, like, unbothered by all of it, but she did make a comment. She doesn't give a. She just said, like, listen, I don't want to be around people that are hanging out with my ex. And I get that. I'm like that. If there's somebody that I absolutely do not like that has tried to hurt my family, like, there's somebody on the show this season that's done this for decades. I don't want to hang out with people that hang out with her. I don't want her to be able to get any type of Information about.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she shouldn't be able to, because you know why I can hang out with people like that. I don't appreciate when other people hurt other people that I'm in friends with. And it's the world we live in, Tamra. Yeah, but that doesn't mean you have to be able to trust that person that they're not carrying tails. As my grandmother would say, don't carry tails. There's never been a time, anybody. I have to. I'm in a world where people become friends, come in and out of friendships. That's why I have to be in the company of all these people. Right, right. But the minute somebody breaches your trust and says something that's going on in your life, done. Done.

[Tamara T]

That's how I am, too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And it'll get back to you, because the person they told wanted to get back to you.

[Tamara T]

Now, Monique does say how messy Chris is and warns Stacy to be careful. Now, Stacy should not be having any conversations with him. Can I say anyways, because she's getting back together.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Husband Timu. Can I say one thing?

[Tamara T]

Timo?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can I just say one thing?

[Tamara T]

You could say whatever you want.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Stacy's face said a lot to me when she looked at her, and she's like, I'm just here to tell you, careful with that. I've been down that road. She looked scared.

[Tamara T]

She should.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So that made me think that blew every theory out the window. Stacy's face told me that she was nervous when. When. Yeah, I'm sorry. It made me think she was guilty. That's the first time I really felt she was guilty.

[Tamara T]

So Wendy knows that Stacey lies a lot, but she's still being pretty, pretty nice to her. Wendy says we can't rule out Stacy because she lied in the past, lied in the present, and she'll probably gonna lie in the future. So everybody pretty much knows Stacy is a liar. But I feel like more people should act like Wendy. They're not like, lies that hurt people. They're just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's white lies.

[Tamara T]

White lies.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I thought about that when I got up, too.

[Tamara T]

I thought, like, really white lies.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's just white lies. Or maybe they don't get. And the other thing, too, Tamra, is if she's lying, she'll, like, screw up, but they don't give her a chance to explain herself before they're screaming in her face. If you let her talk, she will trip on herself, and you'll trip on her own words. Yeah, your answer, you guys, don't let her freaking talk. Let her Talk.

[Tamara T]

Well, let's see how it goes the rest of the season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The more you let someone talk, the more you find out.

[Tamara T]

Oh, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah.

[Tamara T]

So if it's not Stacey who's leaking the conversations to Chris, is it maybe that guy at the Orange county reunion that was leaking with his disguised voice? Could been him. You never know. You never know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Anything's possible. But I'm gonna say this. Wendy's monologue on all these different theories and how they, like, panned to different things that were said was probably the best edit, the best monologue on a. On a damn confessional. It was so good that I was like. That was like professional on point editing. The way she spoke, it was giving Heather gay.

[Tamara T]

Do you think they fed her those lines?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I hope so, because then I'd be a little jealous.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. All right, so you are headed out. You will not be on the Traders podcast.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not. I'm gonna. Mr. And she's so much.

[Tamara T]

I love Dorinda. Okay, so when you get home?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I get home Wednesday.

[Tamara T]

Busy, busy woman. All right, well, safe travels home. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod. And we'll be back with you very soon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This was fun. And I cannot wait till next week. Next week's the bomb.

[Tamara T]

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's the episode.

[Tamara T]

Just getting better and better, guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Cannot wait.

[Tamara T]

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[Tamara T]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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