My ChatGPT Therapist (Southern Charm Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod w/ Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge

Episode: My ChatGPT Therapist (Southern Charm Recap)
Release Date: January 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge break down the latest Southern Charm episode, which they dub a "filler" with minimal drama and heavy focus on the guys. They dish on cast headlines, behind-the-scenes Bravo tea, relationship dynamics, and react live to a cast member's "therapy" session with ChatGPT (hence the episode's title). Their banter remains candid and colorful, weaving in their own takes on friendships, dating, and reality TV etiquette.

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Headlines & Hot Topics (03:12 – 09:04)

• Sydney Sweeney & Amanda Siffre's TikTok

  • Teddi gushes over a viral TikTok with Housemaids stars.

    “I reposted it on my Instagram because I was just like, oh, my God...”
    — Teddi Mellencamp, 03:54

• Southern Charm Alum News

  • Naomi is confirmed engaged to Brooke Nader’s ex, prompting commentary about everyone's overlapping dating histories.

    “Everybody’s fishing in the same pond in this business.”
    — Tamra Judge, 04:31

  • Teddi and Tamra compare the Nader sisters to the Kardashians due to their rising fame.

• Mary Cosby & the TLC Documentary

  • Discussion of Mary Cosby breaking her silence on TLC’s The Cult of a Real Housewife documentary.

    “She was saying that it is a vindictive, jealousy-driven documentary.”
    — Tamra Judge, 05:29

  • Teddi reveals content creators are upset about improper credit in the documentary.

    “TLC did piss off a lot of content creators.”
    — Teddi Mellencamp, 05:49

• Jody & Lisa Split

  • News that Jody has confirmed his split from Lisa, though he deleted his statement.

    “You don’t delete something quick enough in this world.”
    — Tamra Judge, 07:22

• Alexia in Paris

  • Alexia was spotted in Paris, suggesting unresolved Bravo drama.

• Vanina & Molly’s Vagina Surgery Controversy

  • Ongoing fallout from Vanina's public apology to Molly about discussing her intimate surgery.

    “There’s just like certain things you just don’t go to…”
    — Teddi Mellencamp, 08:53 “You can tell me I’m a vault.”
    — Tamra Judge, 08:46

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Southern Charm Recap (14:53 – 36:39)

General Impressions

• Both agree it's a slow episode with little major drama.

  “A lot lot didn’t happen. I was kind of disappointed.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp, 14:53

Key Storylines

Sally, Vanita & Craig Love Triangle (15:08 – 18:28)

• Sally and Vanita meet for lunch to hash out awkward feelings.

• Tamra thinks Vanita is overreacting about Sally potentially dating Craig.

  “Like, let her fall on her face ... When a friend sits in front of you and says, I’ll find out on my own, then we sit back and say, well, then I’ll be there for you when you need it.”
  — Tamra Judge, 15:18

• Teddi stresses that it's different from serious “bad guy” situations, and friends usually need to experience things for themselves.

  “Just stay out of it. I’m not going to say a word ... I think Vanita is overreacting.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp, 15:41

• They reflect on personal friendship rules when it comes to dating advice, with Tamra noting she always voices her concerns but stays supportive.

  “Let me tell you what I think of your guy. He’s no fucking good.”
  — Tamra Judge, 17:46

Molly & Whitney’s History (18:54 – 20:23)

• Teddi and Tamra are surprised to learn Molly and Whitney “hooked up” about ten years ago despite an age gap.

  “Isn’t he a lot older than her?”
  — Tamra Judge, 18:56 “He’s 57 ... And she’s 30.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp, 19:27

• Candid discussion about dating, maturity, and their annoyance at terms like “She’s like a sister to me” after intimacy.

  “Once somebody’s dick is in your mouth, you’re not friends anymore ever.”
  — Tamra Judge, 20:54

Charlie’s Family Reveal (21:05 – 22:21)

• Charlie reveals having a complicated family dynamic and a new sister.
• The cohosts debate the “girl code” on dating a friend’s romantic interest, with Tamra disagreeing with Charlie’s sister’s “all is fair” attitude.

  “If your friend is interested in a guy, come on, don’t step on your toes about it.”
  — Tamra Judge, 22:13

ChatGPT as Therapist — The Title Moment (22:21 – 24:56)

• Discussion shifts to the episode’s namesake: a male cast member using ChatGPT for relationship therapy.

• Tamra jokes about people substituting AI for human therapists.

  “People are going to save money on therapists now listening to this.”
  — Tamra Judge, 22:42

• Both recall the movie Her and speculate humorously about robot partners in the future.

• Teddi confesses to using ChatGPT mostly for comedic “roasts,” not advice.

  “I just like to roast people ... I’ll put in ChatGPT roast Dolores.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp, 23:54

• Both admit skepticism about using AI for actual therapy.

  “I would not suggest it.”
  — Tamra Judge, 24:56

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The Patricia Party & The Guy Group (30:24 – 35:59)

Patricia's Neverending Parties

• The hosts poke fun at the abundance of parties at Patricia's house and the “mandatory white outfits.”

  “Why do you keep having these parties?”
  — Teddi Mellencamp, 30:31

Patricia’s Real Agenda

• The party's real goal is to mine gossip from the guys, especially about their love lives.

  “That’s why she had this, because she wanted to get the dirt from everyone?”
  — Tamra Judge, 31:07

• Noting Madison's absence, the hosts suspect Patricia’s curiosity stemmed from earlier conversations about the ongoing love triangle.

Relationships & Friendship Drama

• They dissect Austin and Craig finally sitting outside for their much-anticipated talk.

  “Put your vaginas away and let’s talk like men.”
  — Tamra Judge, 33:09

• Craig apologizes but Austin seems fed up, threatening to end their friendship if Craig snaps again.

  “You snap at me again and we’re done.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp, 33:55

• Tamra theorizes a girlfriend is fueling Austin’s discontent, and both critique the dismissive way some men talk about their partners.

  “Can you at least follow that up with, she’s a beautiful girl, I’d be lucky to have her?”
  — Tamra Judge, 34:30

  “That was the most clear no I’ve ever heard.”
  — Tamra Judge, 34:59

Fan Favorite: Steven/“The Doctor with the Accent”

• Both cohosts express curiosity about this new male guest and call for more screen time.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “I feel like they’re the new Kardashians.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp, 04:42

• “There’s enough to go around.”
  — Tamra Judge, 04:35

• On using ChatGPT for therapy:

  “I would not suggest it. I have Aunt Arden if I want to speak to a therapist.”
  — Tamra Judge, 24:56

• “Put your vaginas away and let’s talk like men.”
  — Tamra Judge, 33:09

• On party etiquette:

  “It’s funny to see some of them bring hostess gifts and some of them not.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp, 31:00

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Important Timestamps

• 03:12 — Episode theme intro and Southern Charm "filler" critique begins
• 04:20 — Nader sisters, Kardashians comparison
• 05:21 — Mary Cosby, TLC documentary drama
• 08:33 — Vanina & Molly apology fallout
• 14:53 — Southern Charm recap segment starts
• 15:18 — Sally & Vanita conflict analysis
• 18:54 — Molly & Whitney's history
• 22:21 — ChatGPT therapist storyline and discussion
• 30:24 — Patricia's party, guy group, and white outfits
• 33:09 — Austin & Craig’s confrontation and friendship discussion
• 35:46 — Closing remarks on relationship respect

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Wrap-Up & Upcoming Interview

• Teddi previews her solo interview with Meredith, promising listener engagement and questions from fans.
• Tamra briefly signs off due to other commitments but sends love to the audience.

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Summary

This episode captures classic "Two Ts in a Pod" chemistry: blunt, comedic, and loaded with reality TV insight. While the Southern Charm episode itself lacked fireworks, Teddi and Tamra kept things lively by dissecting cast news, debating friendship codes, and sharing their own rules on relationships and honesty. The ChatGPT therapist discussion provided a fresh, on-theme hook, with both skeptical about digital therapy but endlessly entertained by AI's growing pop culture role.

Those catching up will find thoughtful (albeit irreverent) perspectives on Bravo drama, a rundown of the latest Real Housewives universe headlines, and sharp social commentary—all filtered through the lens of two housewives who know the game inside and out.

Transcript

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[Tamara Judge]

Two T's in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two T's in a Pod. And today we are going to be recapping Southern Charm. I feel like this was really a filler episode and not a lot happened.

[Tamara Judge]

No, not a lot happened. Not a lot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not a lot of girls in this episode. It was mostly guys. It was a, you know, Patricia Fest

[Tamara Judge]

nine millionth party at her house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. Well, let's get into some headlines first. So let's talk about that.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's do that. That excites me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, this isn't a headline, but did you happen to see Sydney Sweeney and Amanda Siffre from the Housemaids did. That's my opinion. TikTok.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I didn't. I'm telling me about it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So they did the TikTok. It was the two of them. And I reposted it on my Instagram because I was just like, oh, my God, it was them on set.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, cool.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I'm like. And I told. I was so excited. I told Sophia. She's like, oh, people are still doing that. I'm like, yes. It's not going away. Yes. That was exciting for me.

[Tamara Judge]

So cute.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So Southern Charm alum Naomi. I don't remember who she is, but she is engaged to Brooke Nader's ex husband, Billy.

[Tamara Judge]

Everybody's fishing in the same pond in this business.

[Jo Winterstein]

I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know what?

[Tamara Judge]

There's enough to go around.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I am a little obsessed with the Nader sisters.

[Tamara Judge]

I feel like everyone is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel like they're the new Kardashians.

[Tamara Judge]

You think?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah, I do. I think they're new. The new up and coming.

[Tamara Judge]

I think really pretty.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I had a conversation with Brooks. Oh, you did? Yeah, Just a dm. And I'm like, you love your show. It is. You guys are like the new Kardashians for sure. And they are. Imagine as parents having many girls that are that hot.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I would feel bad for the dad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right Legs to like my top of my head, these girls. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

No, it's. That can't be easy for a dad or a mom.

[Special Agent Bradley Hall]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm a crazy parent, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. So Mary Cosby has finally broke her silence on the TLC documentary the Cult of a Real Housewife, you know, she

[Tamara Judge]

was talking about that and, and it was. She was saying that it is a vindictive, jealousy driven documentary.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes. I had a small conversation with her at BravoCon on a sprinter van and she was.

[Tamara Judge]

I was there. That's the one I'm talking about.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

She was a little upset that it was coming out. And so Queens and Bravo broke this and basically, you know, it kind of backfired in TLC's face. Most people love her even more. And don't look at it like that. TLC did piss off a lot of content creators. They used their content, did not give them credit or gave the wrong person credit. Now normally. And I was actually going to reach out to Alex Baskin going, is this, is this okay? Is this legal? I know that the laws are different with documentaries. They're different.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I don't know about that stuff. So I can't comment.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Regular shows, if you use reality shows, whatever show, if you use somebody's content, you have to give them credit or you. They have to sign a release form or something like that. But that did not happen. Pissed off a lot of content creators. Creators. And as far as Mary, you know what, Mary, we don't believe this.

[Tamara Judge]

Mary, we got your back. We love you. We love you, Mary. So just so you know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So everyone loves you, Mary.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she broke her silence filing the release of the TLC documentary, the Cult of the Real Housewives. Mary has released a reel with a caption. God first love you blessed. Hashtag, don't believe the lies. Happy Sunday. So this is a little heartbreaking. Jody confirmed terms that he and Lisa have split again. Our friends at Queens of Bravo, who we absolutely love have, I guess Jody, like, somebody's like, where is.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And. But he deleted it. He deleted it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, he deleted it.

[Tamara Judge]

He deleted it. But, you know, you. You don't delete something quick enough in this world. And he. And they were like, he said, oh, we decided to go our separate ways.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. He also said, I still care about her deeply and want the best for her. I'm gonna reach out to Lisa to see if she's okay, if this is even true.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it is.

[Jo Winterstein]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, also, did you see that Alexia was in Paris?

[Tamara Judge]

With who?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Todd.

[Tamara Judge]

I guess that's why he dropped the case. You know, Todd dropped the case against NBC.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, maybe that was according to Queens of Bravo. So they said that they got messages. I haven't seen him in Paris, but she was in Paris and somebody said at The Hermes store. They saw her get that bad girl Southern charm. There's a little. I'm not going to read all this because it's very long winded. But Vanina apologizes to Molly and Molly responds about, you know, the whole vagina. Again, our friends at Queens of Bravo put this out there and Molly did respond saying we are in a good place. She apologized multiple times and continues to show remorse.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, here's the thing, she doesn't seem to mind talking about it because she brought it up on this, on this

[Teddy Mellencamp]

episode also, I kick your ass. If I was talking to you off camera and said like, yeah, I had to get my vagina.

[Tamara Judge]

You think I'd ever repeat like that's what I'm saying. You can tell me I'm a vault. But yeah, so she did deserve a public apology.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There's just like certain things you just don't go to and I think that

[Tamara Judge]

that was one of sure is why that was like seven years ago she got this done. Why, oh is that longer as such a young girl?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know, I. Maybe it was just like a deformity. Like when you're born, maybe you're, you know what I mean?

[Tamara Judge]

Like the way it looked or what did Whitney say? He's like, I don't mind trimming the curtains or doing whatever. I thought it was funny.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was funny.

[Tamara Judge]

Anyway, getting that was funny.

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if mind control is real?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Tamara Judge]

When you look at your car, you're gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[Special Agent Riegel]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you get someone to join your cult?

[Nancy Glass]

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

[Mind Games Narrator]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

But Southern charm, guys, we don't have a lot to recap because a lot lot didn't happen. I was kind of disappointed episode. But, you know, sometimes we need some fillers. Starts off with Sally and Vanita meet for lunch. They feel like things were really awkward between them. Sally, I have a question for you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, I have a question. Do you think that Benina is going overboard?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I've said it from the day one.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, let her fall on her face because Vanita, like, let her have her. She's going to fall on her face. She's going to get it shoved up her ass. Let her have it. Let her. When a friend sits in front of you and says, I'll find out on my own, then we sit back and say, well, then I'll be there for you when you need it. But here's kind of gave her an ultimatum. But here's Benita said, me or her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Bullshit. Here's the thing. Craig is not a criminal. Craig is not, you know, a horrible human being. This is not a brook situation where I was telling Vicki and it's one thing. Tell that your friend. He's not. Yeah, he's not a good guy. Now I have a friend right now that I was talking with that her friend is Dating someone. She's like, he's not a good guy. But you know what I've learned? Just stay out of it. I'm not going to say a word. So I think that Vanita is overreacting. I mean, let's not forget about J.T. nobody. I mean, he was so bad for Vanita.

[Tamara Judge]

Like my friend Christina Pastina, she would say to me. She would say to me, she's been there many times through my, you know, dating or whatever. And she'd be like, get out now. Get it. But she never once said, I won't be there for you when you fall on your face. She always. And. And. And I always knew that she'd never judge me for whatever I did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

If I made that, if I went against her advice and did it, she'd still give me good advice. She'd still be. Be there for me. For me to make the same mistake until I don't want to make it anymore.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Mm. But Sally told Via, I'm not gonna stop hanging out with him because of you. I like him.

[Tamara Judge]

Well.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And by the way, they're on a cast together.

[Tamara Judge]

But the other thing is, Sally also said, no one tells me what to do. Now, we all know the old saying, the more you tell someone not to do something, the more they're gonna do it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right? Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Especially when it comes to a girl dating a guy. You can only be there for her as much as you can never. Have I seen where somebody says to a girl, stay away from him. He's bad for you. And she goes, oh, okay, let me go get rid of him. Hold on. I'm gonna pick up the phone and say, I never want to see you again.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right. You have to learn. You have to learn. It's like there's a written rule with me when people, new housewives, come in on the show, I will say to them, like, they'll ask me questions about certain cast members. Go, listen, you need to figure it out on your own. You will figure out.

[Tamara Judge]

See, like, if it's my friend, I'm going to say, let me tell you what I think of your guy. He's no fucking good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, yeah, with friends, with guys, yeah,

[Tamara Judge]

he's a jerk off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But, I mean, you have to.

[Tamara Judge]

What you choose. I will be there for you. I'll dance at your wedding. I will do whatever it needs to be. And if it comes to the day where I need to pick you up, I'll do that too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But this is a different situation where Sally is just entertaining the, you know, the option Possible option of dating Craig. They're not dating. He is more into Charlie than Sally. Sally's just hanging out with them. So I think, yes, Vanita is overreacting,

[Tamara Judge]

but that's okay because Vanita gets her day from when we were talking to Sally. Moving forward, we're going to see what happens, right? She's like, oh, you're. You're gonna see. Yeah. So then you see Molly, which I didn't know Molly and Whitney had a thing, Right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I guess about 10 years ago, they hooked.

[Tamara Judge]

Isn't he a lot older than her? Like, how old is he? Do we know?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think he's pushing 50.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So I guess they had that. Like, he's the musician and. And she's into music. And it was like 10 years ago. Pre new vag. He's almost 60. What? He's 57.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I had no idea.

[Nancy Glass]

Wow.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

57. And she's how old?

[Tamara Judge]

30.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So in this.

[Tamara Judge]

What she had a crush on, he

[Teddy Mellencamp]

would have known about her curtains.

[Tamara Judge]

No, it was 10 years ago. No, 10 years ago was before she had her thing. Seven years ago.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what I'm saying. He would have seen her curtains. That she knows.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think that they. They had a curtain moment.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, then what's up? What's hooking up?

[Tamara Judge]

She didn't say they hooked up. She had it. She thought they could have a thing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, Molly admitted to hooking up with Whitney. Oh, she admitted.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, then it's because he's a musician. Like, but is he? Well, I thought maybe. I thought she was younger. All these people act younger. That's why I think she's 37. She's no kid. Oh, so then at 30, she got her curtains fixed. Okay, fair enough.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes. So, okay, so she was 27.

[Tamara Judge]

We needed to establish these things.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, so he's 20 years older than her.

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[Tamara Judge]

Whatever it is. It is when they referenced. But it's like a sister to me. She's like a little sister to me. I remove that from the vocabulary after.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's creepy.

[Tamara Judge]

There was once somebody said to me, you could just not. Because this is a gross thing I'm going to say. Like, I used to have boyfriends that used to say, you can't be friends with that guy because, you know, once

[Teddy Mellencamp]

somebody's say it, you're not say it. No.

[Tamara Judge]

So there was a saying when we were younger. Once somebody's dick is in your mouth, you're not friends anymore ever.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Ever.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Just say so Charlie shares that she has an older sister and they have different dads. And we get to meet her while she and her younger sister have the same biological dad, but they don't have a relationship with him.

[Tamara Judge]

Right, okay, but so then she talks about. And they didn't really elaborate on that, which is fine. But then she talks about how her sister asked her, are you dating? Is there anybody of interest? And she goes, yeah, but Sally likes him. So the sister, instead of the sister saying, if your friend likes him, you should probably like stay away from him. Which is the, the, the what I would say to my sister, right? First I would say, well, what's. Tell me about him, Is he worth fighting for? Is he worth losing a friend over? Do you really have feelings for this guy? Is he like the pick of the litter over here?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's like, game on. Go get him.

[Tamara Judge]

Sister's like, well, you're, you're both single, so all is fair in love and war, hon. Well, I don't really agree with that. I really don't. If your friend is interested in a guy, come on, don't step on your toes about it. There's a lot of guys. There's a lot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But is there. I feel like. And wherever they're at, there's not a lot of guys because they're all dating the same one. Have you ever had a therapy session with chat GPT?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't even have chat GPT.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know how do you have a therapy session? Which I do.

[Tamara Judge]

You could do anything with it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So basically, wait, he's asking him questions, so how do I overcome this? What should I do here?

[Tamara Judge]

And then he was crying like he had a. Like, people are gonna save a money on therapists now listening to this. But. So he had a full conversation with Chat gbt. You know, did you ever see that movie? I actually watched this whole horrible movie in its entirety. So Joaquin Phoenix was in a movie where he falls in love with long before Chachi BT came around with this person, the robot on his phone or whatever, the Siri on the phone falls in love with her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I did see that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So this is like. It's so funny because.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So it's, it's, it's not far fetched to say that within the next 10 years people are going to have robot husbands and wives.

[Tamara Judge]

Probably. Yeah. But you know, fast forward 10 years from then. People are actually speaking to this ChatGPT like it's their therapist. I refuse to download it. I've been holding off because I'm afraid I'll become too dependent on it and I'm almost there, though. I'm almost gonna fold. But I'm trying to not complicate my life.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I just like to roast people.

[Tamara Judge]

What do you mean roast people?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I'll put in chat GPT roast Dolores.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I think you did that with me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. That's the only thing. I think it's funny.

[Tamara Judge]

That's it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I, I don't. I mean, I'm still like a Google person. Like, I'll still go to Google and if I need, like, I'm, I'm really watching movies and like Landman. Let's say I'm watching Landman and Sam Elliott and I'm looking. God, they're really making him look old. So what do I do? I Google how old is Sam Elliott. I'm always asking these questions. I would never think to go to Chat GPT to ask those questions.

[Tamara Judge]

So you've never asked ChatGPT for personal advice? I know a lot of people that do.

[Nancy Glass]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, whatever it did, it did. The therapy session seemed to work with Craig.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm going to try.

[Tamara Judge]

Cried a little. He was. He admitted that he would take back,

[Teddy Mellencamp]

but it can take the place of a therapist. Therapist is going to ask you questions that you don't even know you need to be asked.

[Tamara Judge]

I wouldn't suggest it. I would not suggest it. I have Aunt Arden if I want to speak to a therapist. And Art and Greenspan, she's in San Diego if anyone's looking for her. She's so good.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Nancy Glass]

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[Mind Games Narrator]

What if mind control is real?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Tamara Judge]

When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[Special Agent Riegel]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you get someone to join your culture?

[Nancy Glass]

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Nlp, AKA Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

[Special Agent Riegel]

It's about engineering consciousness.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Mind Games is the story of nlp, its crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys. In of spite, he stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, nlp might actually work.

[Tamara Judge]

This is wild.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jo Winterstein]

Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with Mini

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Driver, the Irish traveler said when I was 16. You're going to have a terrible time with men.

[Jo Winterstein]

Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are Misunderstood A Sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jo Winterstein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life. This episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Nancy Glass]

In 2023, a story gripped the UK evoking horror and disbelief.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.

[Nancy Glass]

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, A villain. A nurse named Lucy Letby.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Lucy Letby has been found guilty.

[Nancy Glass]

But what if we didn't get the whole story?

[Mind Games Narrator]

The moment you look at the whole

[Teddy Mellencamp]

picture, the case collapses.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Amanda Knox and In the new podcast, the Case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was.

[Jo Winterstein]

No voicing of any skepticism or doubt.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It'll cause so much harm at every.

[Special Agent Riegel]

Every single level of the British establishment

[Teddy Mellencamp]

of this is wrong.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Special Agent Riegel]

China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Special Agent Bradley Hall]

This MSS officer has no idea the US Government is onto him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast.

[Special Agent Riegel]

I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question of his life. And that's a unicorn.

[Special Agent Bradley Hall]

No one had ever seen anything like that. It was unbelievable.

[Special Agent Riegel]

This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

[Special Agent Bradley Hall]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, we have another Patricia party. Ms. Patricia has another party. I don't know what.

[Tamara Judge]

Have to be dressed up in white.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, and then they always destroy her furniture. And it's like, why do you. Why do you keep having these parties?

[Tamara Judge]

How come Whitney never got married?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. I have no idea. Because he wants to live with. He lives with his mom. Right. They live together.

[Tamara Judge]

I love their relationship. Of course I do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So all the guys arrive. They all have their white jackets on. It's funny to see some of them bring hostess gifts.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And some of them not. And then Patricia goes in on Austin asking if we're gonna.

[Tamara Judge]

That's why she had this, because she wanted to get the dirt from everyone?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think so.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she had it because of her last meeting with Madison.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We did not get to see Madison this episode at all.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Was she off or something? Anyway, her last. She got very. I think she got really curious with her last little meeting with Madison, talking about these. This love triangle.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she want to get the bottom of it.

[Tamara Judge]

So she did get to the bottom of it because she asked what we all wanted to know. What happens when it gets steamy in that hot tub and he's like, well, we jump in the pool. How is he able to do that? I don't know. A straight guy, single guy, broken, little wounded bird that he is. That wouldn't be tag teaming those two girls because they are there for it. What do you think they just feel like being in your hot tub till 6 in the morning?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think he's even telling the truth. He's still in love with Paige. He even said like he would go if she.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, he said, I take her back. I didn't think.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think he's just in survival mode right now.

[Tamara Judge]

You think her stocks go up with her new boyfriend? When he says that, I think all guys go, oh, oh, I better hold her closer probably. You know, everybody wants what somebody else wants.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay. Was it Steven that we had not. I don't think I've ever seen him on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

I like him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Or the doctor with the accent. I like him. I. I want to see more.

[Tamara Judge]

That's like my kind of guy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I want to see more of him.

[Tamara Judge]

He spoke well, asked the right questions.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is he the one that brought the bottle of Dominic?

[Tamara Judge]

He was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then he said something like, well, since I'm the only one that can afford it, about the broken chair like you guys. But I mean, I. I hear Shep has a lot of money, but family

[Tamara Judge]

chef has family money.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Family money. But he's like, since I can afford it. I love that little shade right there.

[Tamara Judge]

He was cute.

[Blue Apron Advertiser]

He.

[Tamara Judge]

I want to see more of him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, Austin, Craig finally go outside and

[Tamara Judge]

they time to talk. Yeah, I was waiting for this. Like, come on, guys, let's get it back together. Put your vaginas away and let's talk like men.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then Craig apologizes like he always does for his actions, but tells Austin he's bombed, he missed the party.

[Tamara Judge]

But I'll tell you what, Austin, I feel like he's at his wits end with Craig. He's like, I'm telling you, bro, stop talking to me like that. Like, I'm not kidding. You need to. I don't know whether. And I can understand this because there are people like this. Sometimes he'll laugh at that. But sometimes you don't know when what you don't know what Craig you're gonna get.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, he told him. He goes, you snap at me again and we're done.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but you know why he's got the, like the little Brazil on the side saying, your friend isn't nice to you. I don't like the way he talks to you. You know, it always takes that woman to throw the Jaggers in to the guys. Like, the other guys would be like, ah, Fuck him. He's just being himself. He's an asshole. That's him. But she's like, no. So now he's, like, listening to her. But I don't. Like, I honestly, it kind of bothered me a little bit the way he spoke about her. When Patricia said, do I hear wedding bells? And he's like, we're good. Like, I don't know. Can you at least follow that up with. Or preface it with? She's a beautiful girl. I'd be lucky to have her. I'm just not ready for that right now. But we'll see. Can you give her something? I'm so sick of these guys that, like, gotta put the girl down to look cool. Like it? No, but just say something nice about her, and then it's okay to say that. Otherwise, it looks like you're using her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, Michael. I think it was Michael that said, like. Well, that's a no. That was a very clear.

[Tamara Judge]

That was the most clear no I've ever heard. Yeah, you're right. But, like, I've seen that before, and I don't. I don't like it. I don't like it. My mother wouldn't like it. When Paul spoke to me like that on that one episode, you all jumped on it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It doesn't Jumped on him. No, it doesn't. But you know what? Sometimes we snap. It happens.

[Tamara Judge]

It happens. But you know what? I think men, when they're confronted with that question, for now on, should be more respectful of the girl they're with.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I agree. That's a gentleman.

[Tamara Judge]

Much nicer about them. And speak to them the way they would want to be spoken to. How would you like it if the shoe was on the other foot and she was like, no, I'm just married. I'm here for a good time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm just trying to get on tv.

[Tamara Judge]

That's it.

[Special Agent Bradley Hall]

Him.

[Tamara Judge]

Does he look like he. He deserves me? I ain't ready. And. And if I was, it wouldn't be him. Yeah. Like, right. You know? Yeah. Tamara. I mean, it just pisses me off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, so we're gonna lose you this week because you have big things to do.

[Tamara Judge]

I have some things to do. Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We're gonna. We're gonna be interviewing Meredith this week, but you are going to be too busy, so I'm going to do it. Well, send me any messages. Send me anybody. Send me messages that you want me to ask. I'll put something out on my Instagram as well. But I'm very excited for this interview.

[Tamara Judge]

You should be. I mean, this is great. And I. And. And I love Meredith. I love her family. Her husband's lovely. Meredith, we're giving you the platform to clear it all up. Yeah. All right, Cool.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

All right, guys.

[Tamara Judge]

Have fun. I will miss you. Love you.

[Special Agent Bradley Hall]

Okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Love you. Thanks for tuning in.

[Tamara Judge]

This is an I heart podcast.

[Jo Winterstein]

Guaranteed human.