No Bartender, More Problems (The Valley: Persian Style Recap)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod: "No Bartender, More Problems" (The Valley: Persian Style Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode Date: January 16, 2026
Episode Focus: Recap and commentary on The Valley: Persian Style, Season 1, Episode 3

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge deliver their signature Housewives-informed take on "The Valley: Persian Style" (Season 1, Episode 3). The hosts break down the major interpersonal dramas, dissect notable cast dynamics, and inject their candid, often hilarious, opinions about everything from OnlyFans revelations to the curious absence of a bartender at a supposed “80-person” party. The mood is witty, fast-paced, and full of Housewives-style shade.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. General Impressions of the Episode

• Filler Episodes & Slowed Pace
  • Both admit this episode felt slower and less eventful compared to the premiere:
    • “This one was, I think, a little bit of a filler. Like, not really much goes on on this.” (Tamra, 03:28)
  • Some humor derived from the pedestrian problems discussed, like the bartender debacle.

2. Gigi’s OnlyFans Reveal

• Gigi’s Multiple Ventures & Self-Image
  • Discovery that Gigi has an OnlyFans page causes laughter and scrutiny:
    • “She’s like, talking to her husband about it, and then they Google it... it’s sexual and nudity... maybe not.” (Teddi, 03:48)
  • Hosts debate whether there’s shame in having an OnlyFans account:
    • “I think whatever way you can make money and you feel comfortable doing it, make it.” (Teddi, 04:03)
    • “They want to show their hoo-ha, go for it.” (Tamra, 04:07)
  • Confusion over Gigi’s work history (marijuana business, sex toy business) is clarified as “no 9-to-5.”

3. Relationship Dynamics and Drama

• MJ & Tommy’s Divorce and Painful History

  • Much of the emotional heft comes from MJ’s divorce storyline:
    • “It’s painful to watch. Yeah, it’s really painful.” (Tamra, 05:27)
  • Rehashing old feuds:
    • “Reza went after MJ about something to do with abortions… it got dirty, dirty, dirty.” (Tamra, 05:40)
    • Notable that Tommy and MJ appear separately in show’s intro, unlike other couples (07:02).
  • MJ’s messy desk and ironic “let’s root for each other” sign during an argument is highlighted for comedic effect (07:11).

• Trauma Bonding in Relationships

  • Tannen and Greg’s relationship, allegedly sustained by trauma after Tannen’s surgery, is examined:
    • “So you can see why they are together because of such a traumatic time... trauma bonded.” (Teddi, 14:10–14:20)
    • Tamra hypothesizes Tannen would like an exit and that Greg wants a more traditional marriage (14:35–15:06).

• Gift-Giving & Financial Questions

  • Skepticism at Greg gifting a Porsche despite financial problems:
    • “Supposed to believe that he just bought her this car when he just told us he has no money... the house doesn’t match the car.” (Teddi & Tamra, 15:41–15:50)

• Sleeping Arrangements (“No One Sleeps in the Same Bed”)

  • Nearly all cast couples reportedly sleep in separate bedrooms, which the hosts find odd and problematic for a relationship (20:16–20:38).

4. Cast Personalities & Power Rankings

• Reza and Adam’s Relationship

  • Hosts continue to be charmed by Reza and Adam's communication about physical affection:
    • “I think it’s cute and good for the relationship to have communication like that.” (Tamra, 28:20)
  • Ongoing jokes about Adam’s ever-present tabouli salad:
    • “Why does he keep bringing the tabouli salad everywhere?” (Teddi, 29:03)

• Sky’s Party & the Bartender Debacle

  • Recurring shade at Sky for fixating on the missing bartender at her small backyard gathering:
    • “You don’t need a bartender. There’s eight people there in the backyard.” (Teddi, 19:40)
    • “Your friends can pour their own wine in your backyard.” (Tamra, 19:51)

• Hosts question the validity of Sky and her husband’s marriage and the authenticity of their issues.

• Newcomer RJ (“Persian Jax Taylor”?)

  • Unimpressed assessments of RJ:
    • “He bugs.” (Teddi, 17:06)
    • “At least Jax is, like, funny. He doesn’t realize he’s funny.” (Teddi, 17:14)

5. Gigi’s Relationships and Drama

• One-Week Marriage with Dennis

  • The brief marriage for spite and subsequent issues:
    • “She only married him to get back at her ex... but he didn’t know that.” (Teddi & Tamra, 18:57–18:58)
    • The hosts remark on Gigi’s lack of personal accountability and sense of “delusion.” (19:04, Tamra)

• House Hunt & Lifestyle

  • Questions about Gigi’s lifestyle (multiple bedrooms, rooms for just clothes) and parent bankrolling (23:04–23:55).

• Jewelry-Shade & Compliments

  • MJ’s sarcastic jewelry “compliment”:
    • “Your jewelry’s nice. Is that Cartier? The shade.” (Tamra, 22:56)

6. Smoking in Social Settings

• Gigi’s casual joint at the party sparks etiquette debate:
  • “I think if you’re going to do that, go to a corner, you know? Is there kids running around?” (Tamra, 21:34)
  • “Just light it up.” (Teddi, 22:20)

7. Other Noteworthy Cast Notes

• The couple who’ve lost a spouse (Natasha and Amir) get little airtime here—hosts hope for more depth in the future (31:36–32:26).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 03:28 | "This one was, I think, a little bit of a filler. Like, not really much goes on on this." | Tamra Judge | | 04:03 | "I think whatever way you can make money and you feel comfortable doing it, make it." | Teddi Mellencamp | | 05:27 | "It's painful to watch. Yeah, it's really painful." | Tamra Judge | | 07:11 | "While they were arguing, there was a sign that said, let's root for each other." | Teddi Mellencamp | | 14:10 | "So you can see why they are together because of such a traumatic time... they trauma bonded." | Teddi Mellencamp | | 15:41 | "Supposed to believe that he just bought her this car when he just told us he has no money." | Teddi Mellencamp | | 19:40 | "You don't need a bartender. There's eight people there in the backyard." | Teddy Mellencamp | | 19:51 | "Your friends can pour their own wine in your backyard." | Tamra Judge | | 22:56 | "Oh, your jewelry's nice. Is that Cartier? The shade. The shade." | Tamra Judge | | 28:20 | "I think it’s cute and good for the relationship to have communication like that." | Tamra Judge |

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:11] – Episode intro and overview
• [03:28–04:49] – OnlyFans reveal and Gigi’s career history
• [05:13–08:17] – MJ & Tommy’s divorce, old feuds, cast intro breakdown
• [14:10–16:12] – Tannen and Greg’s trauma-bonded relationship analysis
• [17:06–18:27] – Thoughts on RJ, possible future Gigi connections
• [19:28–20:38] – Sky’s party and bartender saga (recurring)
• [22:56] – Jewelry-compliment shade
• [23:30–23:55] – Parents bankrolling adult children
• [28:11–29:06] – Reza & Adam’s affectionate relationship
• [31:36–32:26] – Amir & Natasha’s storyline and hope for more depth

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Overall Tone & Final Thoughts

The hosts keep things light, irreverent, and cheeky while also providing real Housewives wisdom about relationships, self-sufficiency, and reality TV etiquette. The episode is rich in side commentary, with many little asides and jokes poking fun at the cast’s choices and “reality show problems.” Both Teddi and Tamra agree that while this episode of The Valley: Persian Style was a little slow, the interpersonal drama still sets the stage for bigger fireworks ahead.

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Closing Segment

• Both express anticipation for the next recap and tease future in-person recordings and appearances (32:43–32:57):
  • “We will keep recapping and trying to entertain you guys the best that we can.” (Teddi, 32:32)

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If you missed the actual episode, this summary gives you all the key drama, sharpest lines, and Housewives-level analysis—with all the fun of Two Ts in a Pod.

Transcript

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hello. Hello, Hello.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Today we are recapping the Valley Persian style, season one, episode three. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you enjoying this?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I loved the first two episodes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then now it's starting to be a little bit painful.

[Tamara Judge]

This one was, I think, a little bit of a filler. Like, not really much goes on on this. I mean, we find out Gigi has an only fans page. Why? Why wouldn't she have an only fans page? Right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I love how Sky's like, I need this only fan page. And she's, like, talking to her husband about it, and then they Google it.

[Tamara Judge]

They're like, what is this? And they're like, it's sexual and nudity and all this stuff. And they're like, oh, maybe not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Totally clueless on what it is at this point.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think it's shameful to have an only fans page?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think whatever way you can make money and you feel comfortable doing it, make it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I don't shame people. They want to show their hoo. Ha. Go for it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They want to show their toes and make some money.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. The only thing I'm confused in is that Gigi had said in a prior episode that she has never had a job. And then later we find out that she had, like. Didn't she have, like, a marijuana business and then she had a sex toy business?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she means, like, a 9 to 5 job.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, gotcha. Yeah, you're probably right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Like, she's never. Because she's been on the show for years and years and years, which is a job. But I think she means she never, like, went into work. Do you notice that every time Gigi is bored, she makes sure to tell everybody? I'm like, don't worry. Us too, honey.

[Tamara Judge]

We get it. Gigi. It's like her way of going, come on, guys, do something. I think that Gigi is the one doing the most. Her and her and Reza. I think I love Reza's relationship with his husband. I think it's really cute.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. They seem really happy.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yeah. What relationship is not good?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, most of us, everybody else but

[Tamara Judge]

MJ and Tommy, I mean, now we know that they're going through a divorce, and MJ said that they are on good terms as far as co parenting, but it's. It's painful to watch. Yeah, it's really painful.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I see the problem is I didn't watch Jaws, so I don't know about whatever happened between the two of them back in the day.

[Tamara Judge]

It got bad. He got nasty. I think that Reza went after MJ about something to do with abortions, and that's why you had problems delivering your kid. Like, it got dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty. So it took them. They took some time apart, and he apologized and I. They're better now, but that's why the

[Teddy Mellencamp]

husband won't even come around.

[Tamara Judge]

No. And I think that he's just antisocial. I think that he's just the type of guy that just. Just doesn't want to go and probably at the most part, doesn't want to be around these people filming. Like, he has no problem at home with MJ and with MJ's mom, which. Oh, my God. That was a scene.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The scene with MJ's mom talking about how she isn't happy.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then he's like, tell her to get a divorce.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, she does.

[Tamara Judge]

She did. She does. Yeah. And. And he says, like, you know, in the scene, he says, like, I don't like that I always am the one to have to fix things.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you notice, and I just noticed it this morning, that the intro with Tommy and MJ is not together? Tommy's in the car with the son, and they. They say his name, and then MJ's is all by herself and. And everybody else's is done as a family.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I didn't realize that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yeah. And MJ's mess on her desk, I know. Had to have thrown you over the edge, because it did me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, did you happen to notice that while they were arguing, there was a sign that said, let's root for each other?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I didn't. But I did notice that in the flashbacks, they were naked in a pool, taking pictures and going. I'm like, is this only fans? What are we watching here?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What is that?

[Tamara Judge]

That could have been worse than my bathtub scene, that I think it was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think it was.

[Tamara Judge]

But that was happier times.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Happier times.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, it's always sad to see a demise of a relationship, especially when you have children, and then to show the flashbacks of them happier. Yeah. But then wasn't it like, Gigi that said, like, MJ's insecure, like she's afraid she can't find another man. And I'm like, oh, that's a good friend.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's a real good friend. But. And then she's like. And you know it's never gonna work when one person's doing things to better themselves and the other person isn't.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I thought that was a pretty valid point.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. And the two of them had things to say about each other. It started on Jeff Lewis and then Tommy went on a podcast and I'm like, oh boy, here we go.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, he also seems like he kind of reminds me of like Michael Rappaport in a way.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, yeah, yeah. Just not as crass maybe. I don't know. Have you been watching Traders?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I have. It's so good.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh my Michael Rappaport. I'm like, do less. Say less. Yeah, you're gonna get murdered. Say less.

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[Tamara Judge]

Reza asks Tannen about her date night with Greg. I think Tannen secretly wants Greg to be texting more girls so she can get out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think Tannen is not into Greg.

[Tamara Judge]

No. She's so beautiful.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, it really like kind of. And I hate this word, but it like triggered me when I saw the picture of her head after the.

[Tamara Judge]

No, it triggered me too. Yeah. When I saw that. I like, I can't, I can't. That was like. That was gnarly. Yeah, that was gnarly. That took me back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So you can see why they are together because of such a traumatic time

[Tamara Judge]

and the trauma bonded.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, they trauma bonded.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And I, she probably, as you know, when you have brain surgery like that, it takes a while to feel normal again. Yeah. And she probably really relied on him

[Teddy Mellencamp]

and he was there for her.

[Tamara Judge]

Was there for her. And now I think that maybe they've outgrown each other.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But she says, he's my best friend, but romance isn't his strength. And I also think that he wants somebody. He wants to be in one of those old fashioned marriages where the woman stays home and the guy can do. He goes out and does whatever. Because I'll tell you one thing, if Eddie came home and then some girl was calling at 2 in the morning, it'd be a sorry day for him because I would advice and cut his dick off and smack him in the face with it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right. I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Could you imagine? No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

2am and he's. And then even his excuse wasn't good.

[Tamara Judge]

No. And then when he goes on and tells the other group, I'm like, shut up. Yeah, good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I just, I, I got kind of caught up and I had to give my number. And then the guy, other guy's like, well, couldn't he give it a fake number?

[Tamara Judge]

It's right. It was innocent. So innocent. I mean. And Risa said, oh, shit. Starts off with a text message in the middle of the night and then what's next? It's scary. It's a problem.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Supposed to believe that he just bought her this car when he just told us he has no money.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm just saying the house doesn't match the car. I'm just going to leave it at that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I feel like this is, this is Gretchen Slade all over again. I bet you that pink Porsche gets returned right after the next episode. Oh, I thought it was too much. Money. So I returned it. I mean, how quickly do you think that. That Portia went back?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They didn't even really kiss when she got it.

[Tamara Judge]

No. And she wasn't even that. No jumping up and down, no excitement. That a $213,000 Porsche.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's. That's no cheap.

[Tamara Judge]

The math ain't math, then. No. If you don't have money and you're having problems. No, no.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It doesn't make any sense.

[Tamara Judge]

No. But I'm sure the Porsche dealer loved having it on there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I. I think that couple is really just kind of outgrown. You're right. They've kind of outgrown each other. There's some couples on there that fight, but I think it's just because they're feisty. Yeah, but I think that's high.

[Tamara Judge]

And her husband.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. I think they really love each other.

[Tamara Judge]

I do, too. I do, too. I think it's just. She's a pain in the ass that way. What do you think about the new Reza, rj?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He bugs.

[Tamara Judge]

He's like the Persian. I actually think he's Armenian. Armenian Jack Taylor.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But he's not even. At least Jax is, like, funny. Doesn't realize he's funny.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I just don't see him as, like, a guy that has a bunch of swag.

[Tamara Judge]

No. Well, RJ met Gigi a couple years ago on her podcast, and I thought the two of them would be a good couple because they're both kind of. Gigi's crazy and he's a fuckboy, so I'm like, perfect.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But do you think he really is a fuckboy? I mean, do you remember a couple episodes back when he was on that date? It was the most awkward date I've ever been on.

[Nancy Glass]

On.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I wasn't even there.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, yeah, I think that he said he's a retired boy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Because nobody wants to anymore.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, right? A man getting a pedicure turn off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't mind getting the pedicure, but the Gigi on the toes.

[Tamara Judge]

Right? No, I mean, rj, Your blue toenails screaming, toxic masculinity. Or however you say it. And the Gigi on the toes just, you know, it's a topper.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

H. And he said it's for his only fans, so they could do a collab.

[Tamara Judge]

I could see them doing a collab. I'm a little bit confused about this. Dennis randomly texting Gigi. Happy Mother's Day. If they haven't spoken since 2024, now he's texting her like, do you. I. I feel like this is just kind of a setup. And. And thank God for Gigi, because I think Gigi is the star of the show at this point.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So they were married for one week, and she only married him to get back at her ex.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But he didn't know that.

[Tamara Judge]

But he didn't know that. But she doesn't think she's to blame for any of this blowing up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, she.

[Tamara Judge]

The level of delusion right there is just too much.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And she was mad when he arrived with a whole bun. Gifts and whatnot. And when he arrived without gifts.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. Yeah. Like, he's. She's like, you should put something in the Sky, I'm an. And I'm like, slow your roll, girl.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, before we even get to that, we need. Don't we need to talk about the party?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That supposedly was going to have 80

[Tamara Judge]

people if there wasn't 80 people there. No. And then how many times do we have to hear that Sky's husband fucked up and didn't get the bartender?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You don't need a bartender. There's eight people there in the backyard.

[Tamara Judge]

It's eight people in the backyard. I'm pretty sure you can throw a barbecue out there at this point and

[Teddy Mellencamp]

you're just serving champagne.

[Tamara Judge]

You might as well throw a bounce house and you're worried about a bartender. Relax, guy. Your husband didn't fuck up on purpose. Your friends can pour their own wine in your backyard.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's not like it was like, mixed drinks and the bar set up like it was, you know, in a cooler.

[Tamara Judge]

I really hope that she's doing this for show purposes and he really doesn't have to deal with this on a daily basis.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How long do you think they haven't been sleeping in the same bedroom? I don't know, but because it seems like this is a new problem and she's just.

[Tamara Judge]

None of the cast sleep in the same bedroom at this point. It's weird.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I hear people more and more hearing about it, but I just like, I can't imagine that being a great thing for your relationship.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think I could do it.

[Tamara Judge]

When Adam asks Tannen about the woman texting Greg, Greg chimes in, and he's like, oh, we have some good days and bad days when it comes to communicating. I'm like, shut the up. Yeah, stop talking about how innocent. Giving your phone number out and having a girl call you at 2 in the morning. And by the way, why'd you answer

[Teddy Mellencamp]

the phone and by the way, don't give your number out.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Give a fake number out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Or just say no. I'm married.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah. How about that? Hey, married. Yeah. Not giving my phone number out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sorry about it. Not happening. What?

[Tamara Judge]

Gigi was bored again. She let us know she pulled out her joint.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Would you be offended if somebody just pulled out a joint at your house?

[Tamara Judge]

I think if you're going to do that, go to a corner, you know? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how well she knows all them. And is there kids running around?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I mean, the kids were in the house because you could see that sky immediately was like, make sure the kids don't come out.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, your kids are not going to be damaged because somebody's smoking a J in your backyard. But I think out of respect, I

[Teddy Mellencamp]

love how they privately both called it smoking a J.

[Tamara Judge]

Smoking a J. I mean, I think I would have said like, hey, do you mind? Because some people don't like. It's just. It's even like the same thing with a cigarette. Some people don't like. Or a cigar. Like, maybe somebody doesn't want to smell it, like go somewhere or ask permission.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, but I'm sure. Just light it up.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm sure the eight people didn't mind.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm sure the seven others were okay, right? I mean, did we count it? Was it. Was it even 10 people?

[Tamara Judge]

I think it was just the cast, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it was just the cast. And then there was like two other people buying something.

[Tamara Judge]

She likes tooting her own horn too, that Sky.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she does.

[Tamara Judge]

She's like, I am the best at making jewelry.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Some of the jewelry does look really good, though.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I'm like, I wish I was that confident.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I love how MJ's complimenting Gigi on her jewelry.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, your jewelry's nice. Is that Cartier? The shade. The shade. I didn't even pick up on that. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And doesn't the episode start where Gigi is looking for another place but can't downsize? I want to understand where Gigi currently lives.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't. She's renting something. I don't know where it's at.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Six bedrooms.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know why she needs six bedrooms. I don't even want six bedrooms. I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I remember the flashback. There was like three bedrooms of just clothes.

[Tamara Judge]

What are your thoughts on parents that just bankroll kids lives?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This is what happens.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. It's not Uncommon. Yeah, uncommon. Like, if you're giving your grown child enough money that they don't have to work, you're the problem. Yeah. As a parent, like, I don't have problems giving my children money as long as they are working and they're trying, and you know what I mean?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But you're also teaching them skills on, like, life. On how to manage life.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. And that's. You can't. No, like, and I. I'm sure it happens all the time. All the time. And then you have people on the other side. Like, I think Anderson Cooper's like, when I die, I'm giving my money to charity, not giving my kids. I'd be like, you, dad. God, that is off, dad. Yep. This guy's exhausting, though. Again, she brings up the bartender, she storms off, she runs in the house. Sky, no one cares. Bye, Sky. Bye. Bye. And then next we see Gigi going to Tannen's house. Gigi tells her that she's seen Dennis. And I feel like, you know, we see in a next week's episode that Dennis shows up to something. So I think, you know, it's probably smart at this point to get them together. So there's some drama in the mix, because right now, there's not really too much going on. I was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It just kind of seems like no one likes each other.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well. Well, it's kind of like housewife shows. I'm confused. Does she still have the. The sex toy company with her ex or. She doesn't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think it ever came to fruition.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, okay. Because she talks about it going into it. I'm like, well, is that why they're meeting? And I wasn't quite sure.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think, like, they didn't finish that task, but I could be wrong, but that's what I kind of got from there.

[Tamara Judge]

But it's interesting that Gigi's dad loves Dennis. Do you think?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, did I. I didn't mind. Did you like Dennis?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't remember Dennis. I don't know who Dennis is other than what I just saw on the show. I didn't watch if he was on Shaws. I never saw it. I only watch early seasons of Shaws, and towards the end, I. I didn't watch anymore.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, Dennis comes in. He immediately, like, holds on to both of her hands, and he's like, all right, let's take a breath. Come on. Let's calm down.

[Tamara Judge]

Right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And you can tell that there was, like, years and years of friendship there.

[Tamara Judge]

So they were friends for years Then Gigi was in a relationship, got her heartbroken, and she figured she was going to marry Dennis to piss off her ex.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is her ex? The one she has her son with?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But they were only together three months, and then she was only with Dennis a week.

[Tamara Judge]

Not a good track record.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Girl, this isn't the world's longest marriages, right?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, she tells Dennis that she's frustrated that he went on. Went straight to her friend, and he's like. He's got a different. He's like, listen, I broke it up with you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And then I started dating her, and he made it sound like she wasn't that great of a friend.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she was that good of a friend. Then she wouldn't have done this in the first place.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. But then Gigi feels like she doesn't factor into the issues that they have together because it's different. I'm like, girl, you admittedly on TV right now, just said you only married him to get back at your ex,

[Teddy Mellencamp]

and you were just best friends getting married.

[Tamara Judge]

So why would you care if he ran off if you had no feelings from that he ran off with somebody, one of your friends?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because I guess he was in a rush to get that marriage annulled.

[Tamara Judge]

And do you think, like, she didn't want the marriage analogy? She would have continued with it? That's what I want to know. Like, was she hurt by it or.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what we need to dig more into. Like, did she ever have real feelings for him? Like, were they intimate for a week? Like, we don't even know if they're intimate or if it was just like, let's go get married for fun.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I don't know. That's. We don't know enough yet. But I think that Gigi should try to control herself and maybe not say, I have to walk off because I gotta punch something. Yeah, I gotta. I gotta leave. I'm gonna punch something. I don't know. So we're gonna find out more because it looks like Dennis is on next week's episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who's your favorite on the show?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I've always loved Reza.

[Nancy Glass]

Always.

[Tamara Judge]

I think he's entertaining. I liked his conversation with his husband

[Teddy Mellencamp]

where they held hands and they said,

[Tamara Judge]

what do you mean? Yeah. And, you know, Adam's like. And I can relate to that. I don't come from a touchy feely family, and Eddie does. So it's. It's always a little bit of a struggle. I'm like, what do you. What do you want? My face when he was gonna touch me, you know, and so you just don't think about all the touching. He's like, I want a back rub. And he's like, well, I want just random kisses, but I thought it was cute and good for the relationship to have communication like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What about how his husband's like, starting tomorrow.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And then he's like. He tells him what he wants. He's like, okay. He's like, well, what does that mean?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, it's not gonna happen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And why does he keep bringing the tabouli salad everywhere?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. Did they say, like, that's not Persian?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

That's Greek, right? Isn't it Greek?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think so, but either way.

[Tamara Judge]

But, I mean, that kind of crosses over a little.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Guy's husband's like, you know, if that's what he knows how to make, well, then great. I guess that's why he keeps making it.

[Tamara Judge]

What did you think about Skye's husband kind of blowing up at Tannin? Did he said something? I can't remember what it was. Do you remember.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Was it when they were talking about sleeping in separate bedrooms?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And he's. He came off like. And I'm just paraphrasing, like, I don't care. Like, he said, like, he jumped, like, cussed and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. Because he was like, well, I don't care that you sleep in separate bedrooms from your husband. I don't want to sleep in separate bedrooms from my wife.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but he. Yeah. And I'm like, okay. Saw a different side to him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Kind of jumping at her, but I

[Teddy Mellencamp]

don't think he ever wanted that information shared.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't. No. No. I don't think so either.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I almost don't even feel like it's true.

[Tamara Judge]

I wonder.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, I totally think that Tannen and her husband don't share a bedroom, but I don't know that I believe that sky and her husband don't, and that's why he's getting so pissed off every time that comes up.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What about how quickly he called himself a failure because he forgot the bartender?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I think that that's his way of shutting down. Shutting things down. Yeah. So I think that that's what he does. Okay, I'm a failure. I'm failure. Like, what do you want? Like, if somebody keeps going after you and going after you. What? I don't like. And my lovely husband does this, too. When you accuse him something, he uses that. Okay. That's what I do. I'm like, don't. It's so condescending.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, he uses this fighting voice. I'm gonna chop you right in the Adam's apple right now. Yeah, yeah, that's. I. I hate that. But that. That was just his. I think that's his just way of go. Okay, okay, you got me. I'm a loser. I'm a loser. Like, I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And are those two married or not married?

[Tamara Judge]

I think they're married.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because I thought they said at the beginning they didn't believe in marriage.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I don't remember that. As far as I know they are, but I might not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And we're not seeing much of that other couple. The one where the.

[Tamara Judge]

His wife died.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, his wife died.

[Tamara Judge]

I was thinking the same thing. They weren't really in it. Natasha and Amir, they weren't really in it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This episode, they did a boxing sesh. That's it.

[Tamara Judge]

And she was like, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then she's like, my back fat showing.

[Tamara Judge]

I was like, I wanted to punch her when she said that. I'm like, you don't have an ounce of back fat on you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

And then. So does he have a child from his first wife?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think so.

[Tamara Judge]

So the kids that she. They have. They have, like, three kids now. Right. So, yeah, those are all theirs. For some reason, I thought that they had. He had a kid from his.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

First wife?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think so.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I. I actually loved hearing his personal story and would love to hear more about that, so hopefully they'll reel that in.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Made me sad, though.

[Tamara Judge]

I was sad. Very, very sad. But that's it. That's all we got.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's all we got for today, guys. But we'll. I'm. I'm excited to be back. We will keep recapping and trying to entertain you guys the best that we can.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And we're gonna do some in person stuff. We're going to be on Jeff Lewis on what was the 27th.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

27th, I think.

[Tamara Judge]

27th. And then we're going to do some podcasts in person. So we're back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We're back, baby.

[Tamara Judge]

We're back on track. Thank you, guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Love you.

[Tamara Judge]

Love you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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