One Baby, Two Breakups & Ciara's Broom... (Summer House Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: One Baby, Two Breakups & Ciara's Broom... (Summer House Recap)
Release Date: May 23, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod hosted by Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, the dynamic duo delves deep into the latest season finale of Summer House. They unpack the tumultuous relationships, surprising twists, and set the stage for upcoming reunions. Whether you're a devoted fan or a casual viewer, this recap offers insightful commentary and lively discussion on the show's most dramatic moments.

Season Finale Recap

Jesse and Lexi's Relationship Turmoil

The centerpiece of the finale revolves around the strained relationship between Jesse and Lexi. After a series of misunderstandings and emotional confrontations, Lexi declares, “I'm done with you, no plans to be friends anytime soon” (04:27). Teddi observes, “She's not afraid of anything, that girl” (05:05), highlighting Lexi's empowered stance amidst the chaos.

Teddi further explains Lexi's frustrations:
“Lexi’s upset that Jesse brought another girl to the US Open, which was Sierra” (23:35). Tamra adds, “She feels like she fell on the sword for him. She’s gonna take it on the chin” (31:50), emphasizing Lexi’s willingness to bear the emotional brunt of the breakup.

Ciara and Wes Dynamics

The conversation shifts to Ciara's unwavering support for Wes despite the mounting tensions. Tamra notes, “Ciara stuck up for Wes” (07:16), illustrating her loyalty. Teddi points out, “Wes was saying everything that Ciara wanted to say but couldn't” (07:16), suggesting an underlying communication gap between Wes and Ciara.

Paige and Craig's Breakup

Paige and Craig's relationship reaches its breaking point, culminating in their split, which is revealed to be "for New Year's" (31:48). Teddi comments, “That was a resolution” (31:50), acknowledging the suddenness of their decision. The fallout includes rumors of Paige cheating, leading to intense confrontations.

Lindsay's Future and Motherhood

Lindsay faces uncertainty about her role on the show and her life post-baby. At 09:53, Teddi muses, “She doesn't know what her future is on the show and how she's gonna make her money post baby.” This sparks discussion about the challenges of balancing reality TV fame with personal life changes.

Key Plot Points

Summer Flings and Rapid Developments

The finale underscores the transient nature of summer relationships. Tamra remarks, “This is a summer fling. Summer flings go fast” (15:33), highlighting the ephemeral connections formed under the summer heat.

Tensions and Conflicts Highlighted

Conflicts reach a boiling point, especially between Lexi and Jesse. Lexi confronts Jesse about his flirtations, leading to heightened emotions:

• Lexi: “We ain't doing that. I'm done with you” (04:27)
• Jesse: “Stop talking shit. I got a bunch of birds outside I gotta feed” (04:19)

These exchanges reveal deep-seated frustrations and set the tone for future confrontations.

Character Analysis

Lexi's Motivation and Emotions

Lexi emerges as a strong, assertive character who is unafraid to voice her grievances. Tamra observes, “She’s not afraid of anything, that girl” (05:05), while Teddi adds, “She gets her point across very well” (05:24). Lexi's decision to end the relationship decisively showcases her growth and resilience.

Jesse's Behavior and Reactions

Jesse's actions come under scrutiny as he juggles multiple romantic interests. Teddi notes, “Might have screwed up by not giving him a big chance” (08:33), suggesting that Jesse's behavior alienated the other cast members.

Ciara's Defense of Wes

Ciara's loyalty to Wes is evident, even when tensions rise. Teddi remarks, “She prided herself on being a girls' girl, but she sided with Jesse” (07:52), indicating a complex dynamic between friendship and personal relationships.

Paige's Actions and Accusations

Paige's breakup with Craig is marred by accusations of infidelity, though evidence is scant. Tamra reflects, “Nobody wants to be accused of something or get caught out doing something” (31:59), emphasizing the damage such rumors can inflict.

Predictions for Reunions

Teddi and Tamra anticipate heated exchanges in the upcoming reunions:

• Jesse and Lexi: Continued tensions and unresolved issues are expected, with Teddi predicting, “They definitely don’t see things the same way” (23:48).
• Paige and Craig: The rumors surrounding Paige’s fidelity will likely fuel further drama, with Teddi stating, “She didn't expect to get the reaction that she did” (31:50).

Final Thoughts

As Teddi and Tamra wrap up their recap, they express excitement for the upcoming reunions and future episodes. They reflect on the season's dramatic highs and lows, acknowledging the emotional journeys of the cast members. Teddi concludes, “I hope everyone enjoyed our recaps” (38:01), and both hosts eagerly anticipate the continued drama and character developments in Summer House.

Notable Quotes

• Lexi’s Declaration: “I'm done with you, no plans to be friends anytime soon.” (04:27) – Lexi
• Tamra on Lexi's Strength: “She's not afraid of anything, that girl.” (05:05) – Teddi Mellencamp
• Jesse’s Frustration: “Stop talking shit. I got a bunch of birds outside I gotta feed.” (04:19) – Jesse
• Paige on Perfect Guy: “He's 6 3. He's in a suit. He might have a scruff, but not a beard.” (16:35) – Paige
• Teddi on Ciara and Wes: “We have to stop fighting. They weren’t engaged.” (22:57) – Tamra Judge

Conclusion

Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge provide a comprehensive and engaging recap of the Summer House season finale, highlighting the complex relationships and emotional rollercoasters that define the show. Their insightful analysis and candid conversations offer listeners a deeper understanding of the characters' motivations and set the stage for the next season's drama-filled episodes.

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Timestamp References

• 04:27: Lexi's declaration to Jesse.
• 05:05: Tamra on Lexi's strength.
• 04:19: Jesse’s frustration with conversations.
• 16:35: Paige's description of her perfect guy.
• 22:57: Teddi on Ciara and Wes's need to stop fighting.
• 23:35: Discussion on Lexi's upset with Jesse bringing Sierra.
• 31:48: Paige and Craig's breakup statement.
• 31:50: Teddi on Paige not expecting the reaction.
• 23:48: Teddi on Jesse and Lexi's differing perspectives.
• 38:01: Teddi's closing remarks.

Note: Timestamps correspond to the minute:second mark in the provided transcript.

Transcript

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamra Judge]

Hey, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Good morning.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi. Hello.

[Tamra Judge]

How are you?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Good. What's going on?

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, you know, same old, same old. Just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What are you doing today?

[Tamra Judge]

Well, I'm getting a massage today, Dolores.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I'm jealous. Later on I'm going to see a play six on Broadway.

[Tamra Judge]

You are?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

You're always so busy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. So it's me, Melissa, Margaret, and Danielle and Rachel Fuda.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, fun. So summer house, I thought it was good. Season finale, they got 15 episodes is good. And then they have two reunions coming up. It was good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was really good. They ended with a bang. They did. And I have some things I. I could be wrong. Like, I noticed some things about. I think. I think Lexi fell for Jesse in the end.

[Tamra Judge]

I'm. Okay, we're gonna get into it, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We have to get there. Because when they were talking in the kitchen, she was looking at him like she want. Like I felt like I'm an empath, right? And I felt like she wanted him to want her or to hug her or to try to kiss her or something.

[Tamra Judge]

And he's like, nope, I'm over this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And he was like, listen, stop talking shit. I got a bunch of birds outside I gotta feed.

[Tamra Judge]

Okay. So this is the season finale. We pick up at Friday night's dinner from the previous episode. Lexi says she does not trust Sierra because of the things she heard about her this summer. Now when she says that, is she referring to what Jesse has said about Sierra to her?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think it was a culmination of everything. Well, because Jesse wasn't the only one that said things. The other girls not in against Sierra, but they were like, he's really flirting with Sierra. He's really so. And it wasn't like. Yeah, I think it was. I think it was a bunch of stuff.

[Tamra Judge]

Lexi was clocked in. She's like, this is the last episode. I'm giving it my all. I've got. I found my boss did well and I'm going after everybody in my way. Watch out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's not afraid of anything, that girl.

[Tamra Judge]

She's not she's well spoken.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She gets her point across very well.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, she did this episode, that's for sure. Lexi says Jesse's the reason she didn't bond with the rest of the girls. Paige. No, he's not agree. I don't agree with that. I felt like she did bond with the girls. I thought there was often times where the girls are like, listen, in so many words, Jesse's a douche. How many times?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who brought her on and how'd she wind up in the house? Is it like housewives where you have to know someone to come in or how does that work over there?

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, my God. I can't remember.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How did she just show up? I thought she showed up as Jesse girlfriend.

[Tamra Judge]

No, she wasn't. Amanda brought her in and there was another girl with her in the very beginning and she fizzled out. Out pretty quickly. That was Bailey.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Remember Bailey? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, now I got it. Okay.

[Tamra Judge]

But now Lexi's saying she felt suffocated and that Jesse enjoyed having her all to himself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So then she was contradicting herself, like Wes said. She's saying, you know, west was saying he wanted you by him, but now you're saying he treated you like shit. So which one is it? Point valid. That is a valid point to bring up.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, don't you feel like Wes is like, I have so much to say. And then there's over. There's Gabby over there going, don't do it now. Now I'm like, let Wes speak. And then Paige is like, bring it, bring it. Go ahead, go ahead.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Ciara stuck up for Wes.

[Tamra Judge]

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because he was. She was fighting. I don't think Sierra likes Lexi very much. And I think because he was siding with Jesse and you know, you can't be a girl's girl and side with Jesse in this moment. So you really. They. They pride themselves on being girls. Girls. So you walk a thin line. So west was saying everything that Ciara wanted to say but couldn't. Cause she was a girl.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, yeah. But Wes wanted to say so much and he was being hush. And I feel like that bothered me. I did. And I think that he feels like, oh, God, is it not my place? He's like, I think he's afraid of Ciara a little bit too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, everyone should be. But not Kyle putting the arm around Lexi saying, can we talk about that?

[Tamra Judge]

What was he doing? He was like hugging her. It was so odd. I'm like, what are you, lover boy?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hat on.

[Tamra Judge]

Yes, you can.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Or is that bad? Thank you.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, Carl's very excited that the season's over and excited that he's never going to talk about his relationship with Lindsay ever again. He says they will.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's like, this is a freedom dinner for me, too.

[Tamra Judge]

I am by friends again. I'll see you on the other side.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I felt like he had PTSD when Jesse was getting yelled at by. Well, when Jesse was getting eviscerated by Lexi and he was just sitting there looking at her. Like, if he could speak. Like, these guys really hold back because they don't want to be disrespectful. That's the truth. Like, maybe they don't have the best actions. Maybe Jesse was disgusting when he went and banged those girls in Emeril's room because nobody could tell me. He just sucked a toe.

[Tamra Judge]

Really fizzled out, didn't he? I don't think he's going to be back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think so either. Like, I don't think they really gave him a big chance. The guys were good with him, but the girls weren't nice.

[Tamra Judge]

But the last four episodes, he just kind of want. He just kind of, like, fizzled out. One, they just cut him out completely. Another one, you. He had, like, two lines. Was he.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He was. Here's the thing. He's not really. How much can he say? He's not there that much. He's not involved that much. He's not there when these things are happening. No, he really wasn't given Emerald. And you know what? Emeril brought a lot this season in, you know, the stupid crap that he did. But I have to say, like, people, he just wasn't received that well, I think. And he didn't really get a good first season.

[Tamra Judge]

No, I don't think he's going to be back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you think Gabby will be back?

[Tamra Judge]

No, I don't know. I don't know. What do I know? You never know. But as of right now, I just feel like we didn't get a lot of Gabby this season. Do you know?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, she wasn't there a lot. I feel like.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, even when she was there, I just feel like there was not a lot of conversations that were going on. And then we don't know if Lindsay's coming back. And at the end of the episode, you know, we'll get into it, but she doesn't know she's coming back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's scared. She's like, what is going to become of me? Yeah. How do I make money? What am I going to do, you know? When you get involved and you know that when our life revolves so much around this show, no matter what you have outside of it, this show trumps what you have always.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, but anytime you have a job for 10 years plus and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, my God, like you get fired or you don't know, you don't fit in anymore or whatever, it's hard.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's an identity issue. It is. It's like a little bit of a crisis. And you find your way.

[Tamra Judge]

And you do, but you do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You find your way, but you more.

[Tamra Judge]

You mourn that life.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Listen, the bosses, the powers that be will always tell you, always make sure you have a plan B. I've been told. You've been told.

[Tamra Judge]

You know, make sure to all new housewives that come in that don't have.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Don'T depend on this. It is illusion. It could be gone tomorrow, but so can anything B. Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone for anything. So you always have to just keep going. Like my dad says, just keep swimming. Like a shark.

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[Tamra Judge]

So Jesse and Paige sit on the couch and recap the dinner conversation. Paige says that Jesse and Lexi went too fast, which I agree. Sierra and Amanda joined the conversation.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's a summer fling. Summer flings go fast. You only have the summer to do.

[Tamra Judge]

It and they did it and it didn't work out. And something about the heat in the.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Summer just get you all going.

[Tamra Judge]

So Sierra and Amanda joined the conversation, reassured Jesse that ending the relationship was the right thing to do. Um, now Amanda and I, I see like Jesse and Sierra kind of giggly and everything. And Amanda is like, hey, whoa. The bodies aren't even cold yet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was a good line.

[Tamra Judge]

That was so good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was my favorite line of the whole season.

[Tamra Judge]

I know. And then you know, because they're. The flirting was on. And then I'm like, oh, God, Sarah was so happy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And what is it with the boys lie sweatsuits? I'm a big boys lie fan.

[Tamra Judge]

Those have been around for a while. My daughter was into those sweatsuits, which they're.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm into them. I actually have Sierra's shirt that she had on.

[Tamra Judge]

I'm like, boys lie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I have the sweatpants. I'm all about it. I send me some.

[Tamra Judge]

So did you catch Paige talking about the perfect guy?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I did.

[Tamra Judge]

And he's. She's all, he's 6 3. He's in a suit. He might have a scruff, but not a beard. And I'm like, this is nothing. That Craig is. Craig is nothing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think he's had a scruff or two.

[Tamra Judge]

He's got a scruff, but he's not. Craig's not 6:3.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's not.

[Tamra Judge]

I don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They're tall over there.

[Tamra Judge]

I mean, Jeff is like 6:3, 6:4. But Craig to me does not seem.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well standing next to chef. But yeah, he certainly didn't describe Shep.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, I was like, as the show was going on, he is 6:3. Craig is 6:3. Seriously, I would have never guessed that he. Because Shep looks so much taller than all the guys. How so?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Craig is that tall.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, then I guess it could be her perfect guy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's a good looking guy.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, Craig. Yeah, I think he is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Shep is 6:5. Because I just did Bravo. With him. Yeah, with Jen Slater, my doll. My love of my life. I love her. And he's like so tall.

[Tamra Judge]

He's tall.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's like their suits never fit them right.

[Tamra Judge]

We were at the up fronts and there was a professional basketball player there and he was towering over Shep.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Really? Really.

[Tamra Judge]

I'm like, holy shit. He must have been like seven foot something.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I like a big guy.

[Tamra Judge]

That's big. You'd have to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I like a man.

[Tamra Judge]

You would have to crawl up on that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamra Judge]

There. There'd be no kissing during sex. So Saturday morning, the boys wake up hung over since they went out and the girls didn't. Jesse wishes he didn't pursue Lexi romantically and they just stayed friends. He says the breakup stage sucks.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, really? Is that how you feel?

[Tamra Judge]

Well, I feel like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Call it a hunch, but I don't blame you for feeling that.

[Tamra Judge]

I don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did it himself.

[Tamra Judge]

Maybe it's just the way he deals with things, but it doesn't seem like he's really that bothered that him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, we could go. We could say this again now, like you. You can't judge someone by their.

[Tamra Judge]

By how their emotional responses.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You can. You know, like some people aren't animated and some people don't know how to process their friends feelings or articulate their feelings. It's really hard to judge somebody how they feel. Like if certain people. Tamara, if people looked at me and knew the twist in my gut sometimes and what I'm going through, they would.

[Tamra Judge]

Be like, keep it all in.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. Yes.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, Lexi woke up crying and overwhelmed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, now she's gonna cry.

[Tamra Judge]

She.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she had a big dick at the table.

[Tamra Judge]

She had a big old dick and now she's not showing that big dick. She is not as strong as she was the night before. That is for sure.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's overwhelmed now. She's like, should I get the sympathy and start crying? Was I too hard? Let me make believe I'm upset about this.

[Tamra Judge]

So the actual time in the house for the last day wasn't very long. It really wasn't. You know, we see Lindsay in a confessional. She's not sure what her future is on the show and how she's gonna make her money post baby. I mean, I think everybody's wondering what's going to happen. I mean, it couldn't be the easiest thing for three months to bring a baby to a house. Like, maybe she bought a nanny. I'm not sure. But a lot goes on. It's loud and drinking and that Would be hard. And then it's Halloween party time. And instantly we see Kyle, and his drunk voice came out before the sun went down. Like, he's already. The party barely starts. Middle of the day. He's always slurring his words. I love a Kyle. I love Kyle slurring his words. So Kyle, Daniel loves a party. He died.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Never seen anyone. I guess I have, but not like him. Like, he. Like, he just loves it. He loves it like it's his first party. That's how I'm trying to say it. Like, Kyle is, like, into it. Like he's never done it before. Like every summer is, like, his first.

[Tamra Judge]

I know. He's like, I'm not giving up drinking anytime soon. I'm just going to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And he's like, hey, guys, are we going. Going out? Yeah. He's in his pickles, and he's like, oh, my God.

[Tamra Judge]

He loves.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He loves a lover boy dramas on, and they're like, are we going out? They're putting their pajamas on. Let's sneak out while we can.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, the Halloween party has started, and they're talking about, you know, the summer ending. Lindsay's in denial about the next stage of her life. And, you know, what is she gonna do? And, well, her friend didn't let up on it. Yeah, but Jesse keeps chatting up different woman. Now, I have a question. When he was chatting up those women, was that Frankie and her friends that he was chatting up?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. Frankie escaped. She escaped.

[Tamra Judge]

She didn't get to see it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Getting back to Danielle and Lindsay's talk, she was not letting up on shoving reality down her throat. She was like, it's over. No, no, no. She's like, oh, this isn't an ending for me here. And she goes, yes, it is. It is absolutely an ending. It's over. And, like, I was like, whoa. I thought I was the tough love friend. She's got me beat.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, considering their. Their job and how, you know, it's during the summer and it's every weekend, I think a lot of those girls on that show are like, oh, God, if I have a baby, like, this could be it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah, like this. That was instant birth control. Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, for sure. Yep. So Jesse's chatting up all these women. The girls notice and make comments about it. Lexi sees this and gets upset. Lexi and Jesse chat in the kitchen. Jesse tells Lexi that if they started the summer strong, they could end it strong, too. But Lexi shuts him down. She's like, that, dude, we ain't doing that. Like, I'm done. With you, no plans to be friends anytime soon. I feel like there's going to be a lot of fighting between these two. A lot more is going to come out at the reunion.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They need to stop fighting. It's. They. They weren't engaged. They weren't dating for 25 years. Like, knock it off.

[Tamra Judge]

It was a summer fling.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, summer fling. Even the conversations were so deep. I love you, but you're just not listening to me. That's something you have after a year. Like, and they're having this.

[Tamra Judge]

You know what else you have after?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I wonder why he didn't want to talk. He's like, what am I supposed to say to this?

[Tamra Judge]

You know what else you're supposed to have to have another year or a year of dating is bringing your mom and your sister into the relations.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not after the first two hours.

[Tamra Judge]

Not after you get after week, like, really trouble.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, not after you go into the bedroom of a threesome and join in while she's not there.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah. This is a summer fling. This is not forever. She accuses him of being deceptive. She says, why things are so tense now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What did you expect?

[Tamra Judge]

I know Jesse.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Seriously.

[Tamra Judge]

Jesse insists that their breakup is peaceful and respectful. Lexi fires.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They definitely don't see things the same way.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, you know what? I was wondering what pissed Lexi off. I thought, okay, she's just doing this for camera time. But I think we found out they are. They argue over their breakup, how it played out in front of everyone. But Lexi's the one that told everybody she's gonna break up with them. Lexi's upset that Jesse brought another girl to the US Open, which was Sierra. So. So we know Lexi's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She used it as an out.

[Tamra Judge]

Do you think she uses now? Do you think that she's like, you know, screw you. You could have brought me the U.S. open. You brought Sierra. Is that why she's kind of, you know, button heads with Ciara and saying.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, Sierra was go. It was.

[Tamra Judge]

It was lovely. Like a.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was a sponsor thing. Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I was supposed to go to.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, well, there you go.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I could be wrong. This is how I feel about it. Sierra and Jesse. No.

[Tamra Judge]

No. So Jesse has several girls follow him into the kitchen. Once again, Lexi seems obviously annoyed. Amanda, wait. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How about Sierra getting the broom and saying, I'm sweeping the trash around the girls? Wait, Tamara, please tell me no, no. And I'm glad it wasn't. But that was probably. If I was one of those girls, I would have number one been so offended. I would have been so angry.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, for sure. I would have got that broom right out of her hands.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was so. Would you have not?

[Tamra Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Tamara, tell me the truth. You're standing there talking, and she's like, got the broom and she's like, sweeping the trash. No.

[Tamra Judge]

No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was not nice.

[Tamra Judge]

I'm pretty sure that my mouth would not. Not stay shut. I'm pretty sure I probably that a lot of use. You. I would, like. Oh, yeah. I would have had something to say. What would you have said?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I was so angry watching it, thinking if I was one of those girls or if one of my friends. Like, I don't. I would have been very nasty. Very nasty.

[Tamra Judge]

Yep. Yep. But Jesse, you know, he should have said something.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, he should have said something. There you go.

[Tamra Judge]

I didn't. But Amanda patron Sierra Chat about the end of summer. Page suggests they do a weekly FaceTime call to catch up with everyone. So Jesse said something to Lexi at one point, and it was kind of like what everyone was thinking. She's bitching about how he tells people everything. He's like, we're on a reality show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The fourth wall a lot here.

[Tamra Judge]

We do. They did. He's like, that's what we do. Get over it. We break the fourth wall.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, he's, like, annoyed at her. I. I have to say, I don't think he really likes her.

[Tamra Judge]

I. I don't think he was that into her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think he was that into her.

[Tamra Judge]

Camera time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's like, you wanted me all to yourself.

[Tamra Judge]

I don't think he's ready to, like, settle down. I don't think he wants a girlfriend.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He doesn't want a girlfriend in the summer. He was gonna ask to be the girlfriend at last week at the, you know, almost the finale. Like, he's like, I'm really thinking about next week.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, the party's over after we wrap. That's it. That's after we wrap.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm really thinking about.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, it's all over. Lindsay says this is the first summer she's sad to see end because she probably is thinking, will I be back in this house again?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm scared for her. It gives a pit in my stomach because what happens next?

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[Tamra Judge]

So they had a Halloween party in August. It's over. Three months later, Lindsay gives birth. December 6th. So there we go. There's our math. At 4:04pm, Lindsay's daughter is born. Lindsay is in the motherly bliss that we're all in. When we have our very first child. The second or third, we're like another one. Well, then December 30th, headlines come out that Paige and Craig are splitting. Headlines state Craig was for New Year's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it was the resolution.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah. And then the rumors about Paige cheating started circulating and Paige didn't really take kindly to that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she didn't because she didn't like it. Nobody wants to be accused of something or get caught out doing something or. Nobody. That's not good feeling. Nobody. If that's what she wanted to say. I met somebody else. Oh, my firstborn's texting me now. I hope she didn't hear me, but. But, you know, the thing with her is, fast forward to her telling Craig, you can shut this down. And he doesn't. She's like, I. She feels like she fell on the sword for him. She's like, I'm gonna Take it on the chin. I'm gonna be the one to announce it so that it comes back at me. And she got hammered. It did she? I don't think she expected. Because she's Paige and the giggly squad. I don't think she expected to get the reaction that she did. And she got hosed. So then she asked him for help because she's like, I'll do it to make him happy. And then.

[Tamra Judge]

But why couldn't he just go out there and say, she's not cheating on me? And obviously she's not, because we don't see her with that guy. We don't see any. Like, you. You. When somebody starts dating, you know, they're always taking pictures.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Look at. Look at your. Your. Your friend's husband. Look at. Look at Stack. Bracelet stack. And we see his pictures everywhere.

[Tamra Judge]

What are you talking about? Oh, Kyle' husband. Oh, he. Yeah, we see him everywhere. He's got a different girl. He changes girls and changes his underwear.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what I'm saying. That. That ass grab when that girl straddled him the other day. I actually. I don't know Kyle very well. I like that she likes dogs, but I wanted to throw up for her.

[Tamra Judge]

I know, because, like, don't we all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Want to be greeted by some big man with nice. You know, he's. He looked good looking there. I don't always like him.

[Tamra Judge]

They were together 20 something years. It's like, dude, just come.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not that one. Like, I don't. I don't ever care when I'm broke up with someone if they're with someone else. I. I'll say it all day long, but that one got me.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I never want to see that.

[Tamra Judge]

Then Paige and Amanda go meet Lindsay's daughter. Amanda cries. Lindsay talks about how Paige didn't cry. No, Paige didn't cry. She's like, no, ain't happening. I don't want any kids. But she talks about Turner, which I found really interesting because she's basically saying, like, you know, if I didn't get pregnant, we probably still wouldn't be together.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's why they didn't last.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, did they not last or they. Because I heard they broke up. Then I heard they're back together.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But wait, think about this for a second. Let's just think about this for a second. You're saying that if Paige was with someone, you'd see them together. Do you ever see Lindsay with Tucker?

[Tamra Judge]

No. No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So that debunks your theory.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, no, it's true. But I don't. Who knows? I know that there's a clip of the reunion, and Andy asked her about Turner and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I called him. Tucker.

[Tamra Judge]

Sorry, Tuck. Turner, Turner. Same thing. Tucker Turner. He asked, you know, her about it, and it didn't look very promising. It didn't?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no, listen, that. Again, that was. Just. Call it whatever you want. She got a beautiful baby out of it.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's. Has a good job. He's a doctor. He's in research, I think. You know, hopefully he does the right thing by her and takes care of the baby and. Yeah, I would imagine her life a little easier.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah. Because she was saying, like, in her confessional, she's like, I don't know what's next for me. I don't know where that check's coming from. I don't know. Like, I don't know what Lindsay does other than the show. She, like, influencer or something. I don't know. So she doesn't have. Well, I think. Oh, she's an influencer. I think that she will end up on New York like we've talked about. I think that. That they should put her on New.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

York, but how about them taking a shot of the breast milk?

[Tamra Judge]

Nope, wouldn't do it. Would you do it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Are you. I come from the age of people did not breastfeed.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, you did? Could you imagine? Nope, nope.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm still like, oh, my God, I was dying.

[Tamra Judge]

Let's talk about the ring now. So they break up, and then he.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Says, I've seen this before.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But he said, glad you didn't see the. I was gonna give you a ring. I was gonna pay for your health insurance. I was going.

[Tamra Judge]

It was like, Craig told her that he wishes she hadn't said anything until she saw the ring.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So that'd be a cornball.

[Tamra Judge]

I know. Did he think like, oh, here's the ring. And she's gonna be like, oh, my God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That makes everything. Changed my mind.

[Tamra Judge]

But do you think there was a ring, or do you think it was a negotiation tool?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think it matters either way.

[Tamra Judge]

I don't think there was a ring. Because then he goes and tells Andy Cohen that he gave.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That he had to come up with.

[Tamra Judge]

He sold the ring back to the jeweler. And I'm like, I. I would be shocked if a jeweler is like, oh, here's your money back. Let me have the ring.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamra Judge]

You think.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So here's the thing. You never know what the deal anything could have been, but I just have to say, like. Like Is that all you had to come up with? I had something for you that I didn't get to give you. I wish you would have saw it. Like, there's so many things he could have said. Is that all he said? That was the most significant thing. You know, I was thinking of having a life with you. I was willing to compromise. I was willing to support you more. I was just gonna sit down and tell you that. That I was going to support your career more like. But no. What a ring that she didn't. She probably didn't want by then anyway. No, but I heard he was bad to her in the beginning.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, I don't think they're gonna be friends anytime soon. No. No. I think there's some bad blood. It'll be interesting to see them at.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There's some bridges burned here.

[Tamra Judge]

Bravo Con. So that was the end. There's two reunions coming up. And cheers to us for watching the entire season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes. Didn't miss a beat.

[Tamra Judge]

Yep.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I hope everyone enjoyed our recaps. Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

Thanks, guys, for tuning in and listening, and I think the reunion's gonna be good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I started, by the way, the set grew on me when you. When I said I didn't like. I like it now.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, okay. See, I liked it. I like, you know, it. I don't know. It just seemed, like, light and fluffy and airy and all the pastels and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

At first when I saw the dresses, I felt like it was a little Easter basket is. You know what I mean? And then when it was all put together, I'm like, it was different.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know what, Tamara? It was different. I like. It was creative. It was different. So. Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Thanks, everyone.

[Tamra Judge]

I'll see you Friday night. I can't wait to see the house that we got through VRBO and Napa.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It is so excited.

[Tamra Judge]

I mean, it has like a. Like a cave. Like a wine cave.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This is gonna be exciting and so much fun. I cannot wait.

[Tamra Judge]

Wine cellar. We have the vineyard. Like, it's pretty cool.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Beautiful.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah. So, you guys, if you haven't download the app Virbo and you can go ahead and check out these houses.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There's no way you could have found it without verbo.

[Tamra Judge]

I know. It's amazing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's literally amazing. We'll post.

[Tamra Judge]

So Friday night, I know that we are going to go. We're going to get there, we're going to do some podcasting.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamra Judge]

We're going to have a chef make us food. Yes. And then the next day, there's some a little podcasting going on and then we're going to Bottle Rock for the, you know, like Justin Timberlake's playing a bunch of different bands and we're gonna go listen to that and then. Well, drink. Will you drink wine in Alba?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'll have a glass.

[Tamra Judge]

You have a glass. Okay. And have some fun. The guys are gonna do a podcast too, so. Oh, it'll be fun. We'll have a lot of fun. And so I'll see you there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Ah, so much fun. I will see you there.

[Tamra Judge]

Okay. Bye, guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Bye. Bye.

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[Tamra Judge]

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