Picking Sides & Spreading Lies (Southern Charm Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Picking Sides & Spreading Lies (Southern Charm Recap)

Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge

Episode Overview

This episode is a spirited and in-depth recap of the latest "Southern Charm" episode, with Teddi and Tamra bringing their signature Housewives-insider perspective. The pair dissect cast dynamics, relationships, dramatic moments, and Southern etiquette—offering both laughs and candid takes. If you're a fan of Bravo reality, podcast chemistry, and honest recaps, this episode delivers.

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Main Discussion Points

Getting Personal: Hosts' Life Updates

• Opening Check-In
  • Teddi shares that she’s making an effort to move every day when she’s home, even if just "20 casual minutes on the bike" (03:59).
  • Tamra and Teddi discuss recent personal challenges and how being on reality TV sometimes conflicts with their real personalities.

Housewives vs. Southern Charm: Authenticity and Vibes

• Show Comparisons

  • Tamra notes, “Housewives is not about warm and kind and loving. Let’s just get that out of the way.” (04:36)
  • Teddi observes that "Southern Charm" feels more real: “Because they're being 100% authentic to who they are. Whether they're complete shit shows, liars, cheaters, drugs…” (06:31)

• Favorite Moments & Format Differences

  • Both hosts agree the latest "Southern Charm" episode is highly watchable and refreshingly different from "Housewives."
  • Tamra says, “Very few shows I can watch twice. I watched [this] twice, and I thought it was good… It's just a different type of [reality show].” (06:17)

Key Cast Storylines & Relationships

Madison and Pregnancy Honesty

• Madison’s candid admission: "I hate being pregnant. The only people that enjoy it are liars and sociopaths."
  • Tamra and Teddi both laugh and agree, appreciating the realness (07:43).

Craig, Paige, and Instagram Drama

• Craig laments his split with Paige, with Tamra observing, “Craig needs to get off Instagram… 'She wants me to be the villain in her story'—I've seen that on Instagram so many times” (08:11).
• The hosts doubt rumors about an engagement ring, referencing cast flashbacks and Paige’s skepticism.
• Teddi comments on Craig's single life "glow up" and wonders if his improved appearance is connected to singledom (10:13).

Shep, Austin, and Dating Talk

• Shep’s dating “age rate” is increasing, and he jokes about buying an expensive rocking horse for Madison’s baby shower, saying, "Shoot. But it's expensive." ($150) (12:40).
  • Austin’s retort: “Shut up, Shep. Trust fund baby.” (12:52)
• Austin gets annoyed about constant questions regarding his relationship with Audrey, sparking a debate on when it's appropriate for friends to push for commitment talk (11:46).

Molly’s Messy House & Reptiles

• The hosts are both grossed out and amused by Molly’s clutter and house full of pets.
  • Tamra: “I had so much anxiety looking at all the clutter, and then the…frozen mouse.” (16:31)

Vanita, Sally, Craig, and Picking Sides

• Vanita discusses being snubbed by Craig and drama involving Paige.
• Teddi declares: “If Vanita doesn't know either way, then don't get involved. Like, it's not like I saw her hanging out with Paige a bunch.” (25:57)
• Glow-ups noted: Tamra and Teddi both comment on how Sally looks stunning as a brunette (26:31).
• Patricia is still the Southern grande dame, likely bankrolling events, and intimidating the cast (27:08).

Swans, Decorations, and Southern Etiquette

• Chat about the baby shower’s swan décor and Southern traditions.
  • Teddi describes South Carolina moms’ attention to party details, “Half the moms in South Carolina where I grew up are like that.” (28:51)

Reality TV Cast Dynamics & Girl Code

• Vanita gets upset with Sally for mingling with Craig, calling Sally only a "girl’s girl" until a guy’s involved (45:40).
  • Tamra disapproves: “I hate when people try to alienate other cast members from other people because they don't like them… it makes for a screwed up season.” (46:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Reality TV Jobs:
  Tamra: "I've been on the show for 15 years. If I haven't fought with everybody, then I'm not doing my job." (05:41)

• On Southern Charm’s Unique Appeal:
  Teddi: "They're being 100% authentic to who they are. Whether they're complete shit shows, liars, cheaters, drugs..." (06:31)
  Tamra (on Andy Cohen's favorite moments): “When Austin said he wanted to get pregnant so he could keep his drinking in check, I almost died.” (06:39)

• On Party Etiquette:
  Teddi: “If there's anybody that is listening to this podcast that is going to [a] baby shower anytime soon, do not spend $350 on a teddy bear for me. Just give me cash.” (14:21)

• On Clutter and Pet Surprises:
  Tamra: “There was a dog behind the pillows, but I thought it was a mouse. I jumped up so fast. He popped up like, 'What's the problem?' Like, you asshole.” (17:31)

• On Drinking in Reality TV:
  Tamra: “On housewives, it’s like, ‘I don’t drink. What do you mean, for DUI? I do not drink!’ My thing is, I don’t have a drinking problem. I have a drunk problem.” (16:05)

• On Girl Code and Cast Isolation:
  Tamra: “I hate when people try to alienate other cast members from other people because they don't like them… it makes for a screwed up season.” (46:05)

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Key Timestamps

• [03:59] – Teddi’s fitness habit and catching up
• [04:36] – Housewives vs. Real-life personalities
• [06:17] – Comparing "Southern Charm" to "Housewives"
• [07:43] – Madison’s take on pregnancy
• [08:11] – Craig on breakup, Instagram drama
• [10:13] – Craig’s "glow up" and being single
• [12:52] – Shep as "trust fund baby" comment
• [16:31] – Molly’s house full of pets and clutter
• [25:57] – Vanita and Craig drama, “picking sides”
• [27:08] – Patricia’s southern matriarch role
• [28:51] – Commentary on party etiquette and Southern culture
• [45:40] – Vanita and Sally confrontation; Sally accused of not being a true girls' girl
• [46:05] – Tamra on the perils of cast isolation

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Tone and Style

Teddi and Tamra’s recap is energetic, irreverent, and full of honest Housewives insight. They combine humor and critical analysis, seamlessly shifting from playful banter to sharp industry critique. The episode is as much about the unique charm (and dysfunction) of Bravo shows as it is about recapping the actual events.

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For Listeners New and Old

This episode is a thorough, entertaining recap for "Southern Charm" fans and a great look inside reality TV for newcomers. Teddi and Tamra’s dynamic shines, as they apply both personal experience and outsider perspective to Bravo’s southern spin-off. Expect lots of laughs, inside jokes, mom wisdom, and the kind of reality TV breakdowns that only Housewives alums can provide.

Transcript

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Two teas in a.

[Honey German]

Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi Gu.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hello. Hello.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi. What's going on?

[Tamara Judge]

I've missed you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I've missed you too. I've been away. I've been away and by being away, it's just I've been trying to get myself back in check. I'm feeling a little bit better this week. Yay.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So it's good. And I'm starting this new thing starting today, any day that I'm home, I'm going to move my body for 20 minutes in some capacity.

[Honey German]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Just don't overdo it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. That's why I jumped in 20 minutes and I did like 20 casual minutes on the bike and already I'm feeling a little bit better.

[Tamara Judge]

I like how you said 20 casual minutes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, 20.

[Tamara Judge]

How casual were they?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They were quite casual. I feel like so much is missed and something that I know I'm not really allowed to talk to you about. You know, just talking about it. But there's a different Tamra that I know than what I saw on episode one of the reunion. Like, I think like, you're so warm and kind and loving and like, well.

[Tamara Judge]

Housewives is not about warm and kind and loving. I know. Let's just get that out of the way.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. But I want people to understand that, that there is a different side. Like, people are like a rogue. First episode, you went a little rogue. First episode, you seem to sit on.

[Tamara Judge]

The edge of the couch and be quiet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You had a bee in your bonnet about Shannon. And I couldn't figure out why.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm just a ball of love.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's all.

[Honey German]

I.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what it is or was, is that the whole season for me was so difficult to film. You know, my headspace wasn't there. I didn't want to be there half the time. I was quitting all the time just because I was just. I was in a good headspace.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And I've never really been like that before, you know, filming. And it was just difficult. And then now I'm like, wait, you guys. I felt like we're not really all there for me during this. I need girls. I can. Salt Lake City. I want to have fun. I don't want it to be like, oh, damn, she's so horrible.

[Honey German]

Come on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's been out to get me.

[Ebay Ad Representative]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Enough of me forever. She fought with everyone. Well, listen, I've been on the show for 15 years. If I haven't fought with everybody, then I'm not doing my job.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Then she's not doing a very good job. We need a little bit of fighting.

[Tamara Judge]

But.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Which brings me to.

[Tamara Judge]

But I need a little fun, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I need a little fun. So you know what? I'm happy if they bring Vicki back.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I have to say, now we're recapping Southern Charm this episode. I was, like, elated.

[Ebay Ad Representative]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

I loved watching it. I don't know what it was.

[Tamara Judge]

I watched it twice.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is so good.

[Tamara Judge]

There's very few shows that I can watch twice. Yeah. And I watched it twice, and I thought it was good. And I thought it was. You know, it's not like Housewives, where it's screaming and yelling and throwing things. It's just a different type of.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because they're being 100% authentic to who they are.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Whether they're complete shit shows, liars, cheaters, drugs.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, when Austin said he wanted to get. When Austin said he wanted to get pregnant so he could keep his drinking in check, I almost died.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But two of our producers said this episode was a nightmare. So I'm like, what am I watching that they're not watching?

[Tamara Judge]

I enjoy it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I love it. Who's your favorite?

[Tamara Judge]

Talk to me about episode four.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. We may feel differently, but it was just.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I think.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because when we watch so many Housewife episodes, then when you watch something else, you're like, oh, okay. This is how. Because there's just certain formulas that different reality shows can get.

[Tamara Judge]

It's just a different formula, and I like it, and I love the, the Southern accents. I love the way they dress. I love, you know, Madison's sweet little accent and the things she says cracks me up. I don't want nipple cream from you, Austin.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know she didn't want no nipple cream.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't want no nipple cream from you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, it starts off with the show where Austin calls Madison. Madison is in her third trimester and she's throwing a baby shower.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you love her honesty? Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you out. But she's like, I hate being pregnant. The only people that enjoy it are liars and sociopaths. I'm like, I'm with you, girl.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I am with you. I will suck. Third, that I completely agree because Madison then goes to Craig's house. Craig says he was betrayed by the person he trusted the most, referring to his ex girlfriend, Paige DeSorvo. I really want to break this down.

[Tamara Judge]

A little bit because I think Craig needs to get off Instagram because his comment where he said, she wants to be the villain, she wants me to be the villain in her story. I'm like, I've seen that on Instagram so many times. I know where you got that from.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, we know. Like, I've seen it with like little music being played too. And like it's not even. It's probably AI.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I gotta believe just from this, this clip alone that Paige is like, oh, hell no. Somewhere she's going, oh, no, I'm not getting blamed for this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I remember I went back and watched some of Summer House and she's like, I don't even believe there was a ring.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, they said that on this episode too. They did a flashback of it. I think it's the reunion or something. And do you think there was a ring?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know because they all talk about what a big liar Craig is, but since we started watching Stacy.

[Honey German]

But.

[Tamara Judge]

He'S just so cute. He gets away with it, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know, but did he have a.

[Tamara Judge]

Little bit of a glow up?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think just because he's single, he just looks like.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, also hair is tousled, his smile's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Big, he's more confident. Yeah, I think he was feeling, I don't know, I mean, maybe that. Drinking again.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe he's just drunk. But I did, I did appreciate when he said that he really wants to start to get to know women before he gets intimate with them.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, he's learned that now that it's been six or seven months, he's really probably gotten his. He's like his Body count is high.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's not good to bone him on the first day.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Craig.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, what kind of girl you look.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like till the second?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, at least the second. So Craig started dating a girl like pretty quickly, right? This Natalie girl, who is she?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know. I mean, here's the thing about Charleston in the south, there is a plethora.

[Tamara Judge]

They all each other. That's what it is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. There's a plethora of like naturally beautiful women.

[Tamara Judge]

There is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, the guys are too, but I just can't. I have a hard time with the high waisted pants and the belt and the shirt tucked in.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, see, I grew up with that, so that's all I know really. See, I'm used to that look.

[Tamara Judge]

Gotcha.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I think if I live.

[Tamara Judge]

There, I would be used to it. But if Eddie tried to tuck shirt, like. No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, first comes to worse, Craig can just be the golden bachelor. I mean, he's almost 37. Oh, he is 37.

[Tamara Judge]

37 years old. And he's really worried that he's aging out. No one's gonna want him. I definitely think he's the guy that gets better looking as he gets older.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Which is because my glam girls. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna call you out. Michelle and Chelsea, they talk about him all the time, but I'm trying to think.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I feel like I've met him before a couple times, and I have. I. I've never felt that when I've actually been in his presence.

[Tamara Judge]

He's nice, he's charming. I don't know. He just. Maybe it's because Michelle keeps telling me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So you're saying he's flirting with you, but.

[Tamara Judge]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Rude.

[Tamara Judge]

No, he wasn't flirting with me at all.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was like, chef probably nice.

[Tamara Judge]

He's nice. Chef flirts with everybody. I think he has flirted with me before. Way back in the day, right after my facelift. He thought I was much younger. At least 28.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He's like, you know what? For a one timer, this will do.

[Tamara Judge]

He lifted his. His age from 24 to 28.

[Honey German]

That's the.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

28 years old I can't.

[Tamara Judge]

But oh, my God, I have kids that age.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Shep goes shopping for the baby shower with Austin. Shep says his dating life is active and his age rate has increased, which we just talked about. And then Austin talks about his relationship with Audrey. He gets frustrated when people ask him about their future and marriage because they haven't even talked about it themselves. Do you think it's rude to ask somebody about a couple, about marriage?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, if it's your close, you know, your family or friend, you know, close friends. Like, hey, you know, how's it going? I mean, how long have they been dating?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

There has to be some sort of discussion about it. Even if it's, I'm not there yet.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Maybe he just doesn't want to give it up. I had to laugh at Shep's word vomiting as he walked into the store and was talking to the girls. And they're just. He's just. You know, and this. They used to date each other, and they just look at each other and they're like, awkward. So awkward. So funny that they said that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What about when he picked up the rocking horse? The little rocking horse? And they're like. He's like, oh, this looks nice. Shoot. But it's expensive.

[Tamara Judge]

$150.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And Austin's like, shut up, Shep. Trust fund baby. I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Cracked me up. But they. Did you see their hats that they were wearing?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Austin said, nashville. And I kept. Kept trying to, like, look at Sheps. And I thought it said, I love small wieners. I love small waters or something like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Or small waters.

[Honey German]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't. It was like he kept moving so I couldn't see it, but at first sight, I thought said, I love small wieners.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, then Austin tells him about going to the pool with Craig. He says that Craig took multiple shots. And Austin says he hopes that Craig doesn't continue to turn his drunk dickhead self.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what? I want to see his drunk dickhead.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Self.

[Tamara Judge]

Get drunk, Be a dick.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Get drunk, Start lying. Be a dick.

[Tamara Judge]

Talk about how you're an attorney and then go sell a pillow. Then go sell me a pillow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, sell me a pillow when it's your first time and isn't fully done.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I was on chat with my glam girls, and I said, on chat. I know, right? And so they. I was saying, yeah, you know what I think?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Agree.

[Tamara Judge]

Craig does look pretty hot. I go, but he lost me when he said he was quilting blanket.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And she.

[Tamara Judge]

She goes, I like that. I go, of course you would. He could. He can alter your clothes. He can alter your clothes, your stuff.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, God, if he starts saying. If he starts crocheting, that's next.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can even crochet. I mean, I used to be able to crochet. I don't know. But I also want to say this is a tip. If there's anybody that is listening to this podcast that is going to baby shower anytime soon, do not spend $350 on a teddy bear for me. Just give me cash.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. And not to mention those giant. Remember when Costco had those gigantic teddy bears? Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And they take up, like, half a room.

[Tamara Judge]

When Eddie and I were dating, I don't know, about a year, he surprised me with this convertible BMW, and the top was off in this gigantic. I mean, it was as tall as me teddy bear. You have to have, like, a special room for it. Like, what do you do with it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then they fall. It's already falling. Funny. It's not even sitting upright. Night.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like a bed. It's so big, you can sleep on it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was probably in his car, like, smushed down. Since he bought it, he'd put, like, luggage on it.

[Tamara Judge]

But what do you think about Austin trying to talk to Craig about his drinking? Because I know personally that when you start talking about a friend's drinking, it doesn't end well.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think these guys have gone through it so many times. Like, we've heard this story from each one of them, like, that they kind of have, like, a really bad year, and then they're like, I'm done. I'm done drinking. And then. Yeah, they come back around, and they're not spring chickens. No, no, not spring chickens. I think just, you know, as long as they keep it somewhat in check, they still get. Can give us good television without ruining their lives.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, what I do love is that they're like, yeah, I got drinking problem. I got to get my drinking in check. Usually on housewives, it's like, I don't drink.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

What do you mean, for dui? I do not drink.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hold on.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Maybe I had a glass. I wasn't drunk that night.

[Tamara Judge]

My thing is, I don't have a drinking problem. I have a drunk problem.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Listen, as long as I'm not blacked out, I'm a real peach.

[Tamara Judge]

The drinking's not the problem. It's the drunkness.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What about Molly when she shows up at her hoarder house? I almost.

[Tamara Judge]

I had so much anxiety looking at all the clutter, and then the. The frozen mouse. She just. I didn't even know they did that. I didn't know either. I didn't know. I mean, I've had people that have had snakes, those big, giant ones, and they would feed them like live mice.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, Molly's house is, like, the house you go to and you're.

[Tamara Judge]

You could probably just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't need to. You should pull up a.

[Tamara Judge]

A basket of clothes. There's probably a mouse under there somewhere.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I know. Or another snake. But, like, no, I don't need a chair. I don't need a beverage. I don't need anything. I'll just pick you up. I'll be. Meet you outside.

[Tamara Judge]

But that later on they show the snake crawling up her stairs.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, no.

[Tamara Judge]

Last night, yesterday, we got home from Big Bear, and we were home for a couple hours, and I went to go lay down on my bed. And my bed has upholstered headboard, and it's got a ton of pillows. I'm laying there, popping up on the pillows, and I'm on my.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's about to tell me there's a mouse. I'm gonna lay down, and all of.

[Tamara Judge]

A sudden the pillows start moving underneath. And I jumped up so fucking fast. And it was the dog. He burrowed himself behind the pillows. I had been there for five minutes, didn't even know. And I jumped up. And he pops his head up like, what. What's the problem? Like, you asshole.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That would have scared.

[Tamara Judge]

Scared the crap out of me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Out of me. Yep. Well, I do know things. I don't need a gecko, a snake, three cats and a dog, and a cluttering issue.

[Tamara Judge]

I was thinking about the smell.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was thinking about, you know who was really struggling? Rodrigo. He was. He was like, girl, he's itching.

[Tamara Judge]

He's like, scratching. He's like, this ain't good. All this stuff is making me have anx.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, I don't even know why he stopped by there other than to tell her what she needs to clean up. At first I thought they were gonna have a de hoarding session, but then he was just coming by to catch up, but he never even sat down. He was like, I'm not sitting in this place.

[Tamara Judge]

Somebody needs to send, like, organizers over there to help this girl out because she's too busy playing her tuba. Whatever it's called. Trombone. I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They call it a different.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a different.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We gotta get into her crying about missing the tuba performance.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What.

[Tamara Judge]

What do you think about Molly and Shep?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think it would last.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think so either.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Here's the thing about being a great gift giver. When you find something truly perfect for everyone on your list, you almost don't want to give it away.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what happened with my quints. Order everything so soft and well made I'm seriously tempted to keep all of it for myself.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Quince pretty much has your whole list covered. Mongolian cashmere sweaters for $50 when you'd normally pay $200 or more, the kind you'll wear on repeat.

[Tamara Judge]

Then there's the denim that goes with everything. Silk tops and skirts for when you need to look put together. Cashmere beanies and scarves and down jackets that actually keep you warm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The Italian wool coats absolute top of my list. They look designer and are made with premium materials. But like everything at Quint's, the price won't make you panic. We're talking way less than other brands charge.

[Tamara Judge]

By working directly with trusted factories that maintain high standards for both craftsmanship and ethical practices, and by cutting out the middleman and markups, Quince is able to pass those savings straight to you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can't tell you how much I'm loving my new cashmere sweater. I will be wearing it a lot this holiday season and getting one for my daughter's slate. Fine. Gifts Gifts so good you'll want to keep them with quince.

[Tamara Judge]

Go to quints.com Tamara for free shipping on your orders and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com Tamara to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quints.com Tamra Life is just better when.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now Vanita shops with Sally for the baby shower. Vanita says after the reunion JT went to her hotel room until 5am and then after that he blocked her and she hasn't heard from him since. Finita talks about Craig's. She says he's a bitch. And then clips are shown of Craig saying he doesn't want to be associated with Vanita and says that she took Paige's side. And Sally says Vanita should have sided with Craig because he brought Paige into the friend group.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, first of all, are you going to Ms. JT? But he brought so much drama. There's always got to be one villain.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He brought so much irritation. I think they're going to do all right without him. But who.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Goes to somebody, look 5am and then blocks them.

[Tamara Judge]

I just, I mean either he is a royal asshole or there's more to this story.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's what I mean.

[Tamara Judge]

It's not like a stud. Absolutely not.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Absolutely some hottie. But even at the reunion last year she said she would still want to be with him.

[Tamara Judge]

I know girl is caught up on him. Hopefully she's moved on. But do you think Vanita should have chosen Craig's side?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think if Vanita doesn't know either way then don't get involved. Like it's not like I saw her hanging out with Paige a bunch.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I was wondering. Do you know how close they were?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think if she was very close with Paige then. But also I think she could have just stayed neutral.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It wasn't necessary for her to go to that point.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, especially. Well I'm glad because they're on a show together so now we got something instantly to talk about. But can we talk about Sally? Did she have a little bit of a glow up too?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Her as a brunette is stunning.

[Tamara Judge]

Stunning. I'm like, she looks so Good. She's always been beautiful, but I'm like. At first, I'm like, who's that?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know, but I remember when she changed her hair color before, I think, the reunion last year. I was like, who is that? Yeah, she. I mean, it just. It's. Don't go back to blonde. Stay here. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It is so pretty.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What do people call this color? Brond.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Where? It's like a light brown.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm trying to get there.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm trying to get there.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You ain't there, Tam.

[Tamara Judge]

I ain't there yet, no. You know who scares me? Who is? Ms. Patricia. She scares me a little bit.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She was. She scares me, too. I know. Did she. Do you think she is the one that paid for that baby shower?

[Tamara Judge]

Probably, yeah. I would think that was her yard, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. It was her backyard. Because then, remember, they went into the. What did they call it? The Laird.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know what it's called, but.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, it is absolutely beautiful. I would love to have a house like that. When I see houses like that, I'm like, I'm moving to the South. I'm doing it.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

My last question in regards to Vanita. Do you think she even talks to Paige anymore?

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Me neither.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, probably was last night after the episode aired.

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[Tamara Judge]

Thanks for having my back. No problem. Anything else you want me to say, just tell me. Just feed me. Whatever. What did he do to you, girl? I. I could see it. What did he do to you? You tell me what he did, and I will stick up for you. Because I'm gonna.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because I need more to talk about. I mean, we don't have JT to argue with, so we need.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we can't just argue about, you know, the necklaces on the swans are not positioned properly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How did she make the swan necklace longer? I wanted to know. I was like, did you see?

[Tamara Judge]

It was like, just like a look, like a lay that was plastic, went around the neck and it was way up, you know, royal pair. And so she wanted to pull it down and she wanted to add some real flowers to make it look better. Oh, very detailed.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I thought she was just trying to move it down lower on the neck. And I'm like, how did she do that without any more. Have you ever.

[Tamara Judge]

Have you ever grown up with someone like that?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That attention to detail?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Or. Yeah. I mean, half the moms in South Carolina where I grew up are like that. I mean, you gotta remember that's where Shep grew up. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I'm so glad that my mom has a zero, zero opinion about everything. Whatever. Do whatever you want. Yeah, sure.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And everybody was like, you would have to be like, Ms. Tamara.

[Tamara Judge]

Ms. Tamara.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'd have to have my kids be.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I love that. Do you do that now?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, no. But I had to call everybody else's parents when I was a kid. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And is it me, or does Whitney look different every single season?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, does he have. Was it just me, or did he have a mustache? Or did I just dream that I.

[Tamara Judge]

Remember him having a mustache? I don't know if it was this season now or last season. He just looks different to me. He's always different. He's just like a rebel. Sometimes he's in a leather jacket, wears glasses. Other times he's really put together.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

All I know is we never talk about wanting to make out with him.

[Tamara Judge]

But did you notice when Vanita and Sally walked into that party, neither one of them were wearing the dresses they were shopping for?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, thank goodness.

[Tamara Judge]

They're like, no, this will look much better on me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's get this one.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's switch it. Let's switch the baby doll dresses.

[Tamara Judge]

That's one thing they do on housewives. You're gonna go shopping for the trip.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

We get these outfits. No, we don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Nope. We just try them on. We just try them on. Yeah. I mean, you could tell that they're not been around that long because they were even willing to try them on. Normally, there's not even a try on. There's just a look.

[Tamara Judge]

I look around look, just so we can talk. Let's just slide.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yep.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, this looks good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's try it on. Let's walk out and show the camera. Yeah. I was like, newbies.

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[Tamara Judge]

Back in the day, I would try things on now and like, nope, not happening back then. I'd be like, give me that bikini. I'll try it on. And walk out. Now I'm like, no, give me that wetsuit.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Give me that moo moo. I'll put that on.

[Tamara Judge]

The wetsuit and the big old hat. Yeah, wear that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You did wear a wet suit this year. I did. Hot.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I know. So hot in a hot tub.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I was confused. Was it because you didn't want it to touch your body?

[Tamara Judge]

Because I just didn't want the cameras to touch my body. I did need them to get a glimpse of any cellulite.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Any saggy skin. I already get enough hate messages. I don't need to be here. You're ugly and fat, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, God. People are so beyond the. So all the guests start to arrive. Vanita says she's terrified to talk to Craig because she's seen him yell at a lot of people.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, wait a minute.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They did flashbacks? I didn't hear any yelling.

[Tamara Judge]

There was no yelling.

[Ebay Ad Representative]

And that.

[Tamara Judge]

That irritated me. And that pisses me off when someone says that. Because.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because you're like, I can yell.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I can yell. But also, everybody yells at everybody on these ships. Everybody yells.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I. I've had certain people speak to me in a way that I've felt uncomfortable about. I've talked about it before with Erica. Like Aaron, Denise's ex.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well, there was like a certain time. That's gross.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, but, like, then I heard. So I was expecting that kind of tone. And the flashbacks. No, didn't give me that.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He was like, no, no, you got to get out of here. I'm done with this.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, what do we want, guys, on a reality show, we want everybody to be proper and not raise their voice and never tell anybody off. And then they complain that it's boring. It's boring. So raise your voice.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What about Sally?

[Tamara Judge]

Just on out women. Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Sally says that Craig looks good, but she is a huge girls girl with Vanita, so she doesn't want anything to happen. She's a girl's girl for half an episode.

[Tamara Judge]

Sally's like. Like, Craig is hot and he is single, and I am moving on in. So the love we hear later that there's a love triangle. So is that Sally and the new girl?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think it's Sally and the new girl who we haven't officially met yet. Who know who she kind of looks like. Remember the girl from Summer House that came in for one season?

[Tamara Judge]

What season was that last?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Lexi. Lexi Wood.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It kind of reminds me of Lexi Wood.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, she does. She's really pretty.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, she's really pretty.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God, I can't wait for this. I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Also, do we kind of see Austin making out with somebody in the season?

[Tamara Judge]

So is that his new. His girl? I don't know how. How long he's been dating this girl. You said three years.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I. I made up three years.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you made up three years. But we didn't see her last season, so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, we did.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that's the same girl. Oh, okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She came in and, like, had us met with his family. I mean, I think that's last season. It could have been two seasons ago. Because if I watched last season, because I might have been in the. We're, like, at the reunion time of when I started to really go crazy with my tumors. At like, a year.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

When I was all tuned up like, this is We're. I started looking back like, thanks a lot, phone, for reminding me of this date. Last year.

[Tamara Judge]

I was like, whoa, where were you last year?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's just a lot. God, I can't live in Las Vegas.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you were. I can't believe that. It's been, what, like 10 months now?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. Almost 11 months.

[Tamara Judge]

Months. But look at you now. I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, doing all right. Doing all right.

[Tamara Judge]

Writing books, doing documentaries. Like you're gonna be on Dance with the Stars. It's all coming for you, girl. Oh, yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can feel it. Could you imagine?

[Tamara Judge]

Can you feel it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

There's never a year I've been happier not to be on Dancing with the Stars than this year. They are so good. I just looked at it. I just watched them and I'm like, if me or Tam was on the show, we would. It would be a humiliating feat.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, not to mention that it's also popularity, so people have to vote for you. Like those twats. No, sorry, I'll pass.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

One, they're not talented at dancing, and two, they bug us. We're not voting for them. Oh, God.

[Tamara Judge]

We'd be gone first. First episode.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, God. I watched Special Forces too, where Britney quit first episode.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, she did?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She didn't even make it hard. First day. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Did she get hurt or is she just like. Nope, sorry. Not for me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She couldn't do it. She said she physically couldn't do it. And then second to quit. This is going to be surprising. Teresa.

[Tamara Judge]

Teresa quit?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't know. I haven't watched the show. I just know. I know. Thank you. I don't want to do that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I watch with Cruise. We love it. We're obsessed. But, I mean, I know we're late to it, but that'd be a good.

[Tamara Judge]

One for Eddie to do. He likes that stuff, that military spartan.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Couple do it together. You could do it with him.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, I. Yes, sure. I'd probably break all my bones in my new boobs. They pop.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, didn't Denise's pop? Oh, my God. Yeah. Boob popping show. Well, anyway, Craig. Well, Madison kind of looks at Craig and she's like, well, you wouldn't be into Sally, would you? And he's like, she is beautiful.

[Tamara Judge]

And she's like, yeah, yeah. The way she did it.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

She was so proud of herself when.

[Tamara Judge]

Madison was talking to Patricia and she goes, you know, he did a good job with your son. And she's like, yeah, but now, number two, I'm, you know, I'm hearing that it's like tougher or something like that. She goes, I'm hoping this girl is nothing like me. And Ms. Patricia goes, I was thinking the same thing.

[Honey German]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well then, Molly says Corey Craig's friend is a huge flirt in a boy way and they spend a long time talking with each other.

[Tamara Judge]

No, he's a no for me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He's a no for me too. I'm not into that kind of hair.

[Tamara Judge]

That. I was going to say the same thing. If he could just maybe change the hair. I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I can't get past it. He's trying to give Benson boom vibes, but it didn't work.

[Honey German]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

And then him talking about his snake and his tight pants. And I mean, she clearly. Molly clearly knows she said it. He's a boy. He's a boy. Run, Molly, run. And then walk to your snake body.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Home bursting when she says, I'm gonna. I need to leave in 15 minutes to go to my thing. And then she doesn't actually leave because she.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe she was into him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She was into it, but then she starts crying to him.

[Tamara Judge]

Is it because she got text messages? Where are you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, she texted them that she wasn't coming, and then they were like. She's like, are they gonna hate me? And the one person said yes or something like that.

[Tamara Judge]

She's a sweet little nerd. She knows herself. He's a little nerd. She's like, big nerd.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then Madison gets emotional over Rodrigo's gift, which was a painting of a teddy bear. Her baby will be named Teddy after her father.

[Tamara Judge]

How about Craig's present to her?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Craig's present? Well, it looked like it wasn't finished.

[Tamara Judge]

Quilted her a blanket, I think he.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Said, the night before.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it wasn't finished. Or was that the one last. Last baby?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I think this one was.

[Tamara Judge]

Whose baby shower was it that he gave the a blanket, too?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Or the girl who's no longer on.

[Tamara Judge]

The show, who I know, but who.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is a really pretty one. I'm blanking on her name.

[Tamara Judge]

They're all really pretty.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's married, has kids. It was before we started recapping the show, but I follow her on Instagram.

[Tamara Judge]

Because I'm like, was that Matt? Because I thought at first I goes that Madison when she was having her son. No, Madison's been on long enough, right. That she probably had her son Hudson on the show, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, she wasn't even on the show then. Oh, okay.

[Tamara Judge]

I've only seen, like, the last three years.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She was, like, from. She started, like, season one and, like, her husband never wanted to be on the show. Oh, gosh. I'll remember it.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I really need to. When I have the. When I have the down time. I'm just gonna go lay in bed and rot and watch all the. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What you're. Now you're a teenager. Bedrot.

[Tamara Judge]

Bedrot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah. You're like, soon you're gonna be like, six, seven.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, can you explain to me the six, seven? I saw people, even Gina dressed up like her and Travis. Six, seven. And I'm like, what is that? I asked Kayden, who's in mid-20s, and he's like, I really don't know. Like, it's like something new.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

All the kids know it, but nobody really knows what it is. But when they.

[Tamara Judge]

It's got to be little kids, because Gina has. Her kids are little.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like all kids.

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No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Then they're. Oh, well, I don't know. I went over to Kyle's house the other day, and she had balloons from one of her daughter's parties that said 6, 7 on it. Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't. What does it mean? I think it's a middle school thing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It has no specific meaning.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, most of what we say.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like this entire podcast, we'll start going.

[Tamara Judge]

Six, nine, six nine, six, nine. That's the only six anything I know from my era. Six, nine.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you remember when we were younger and we used to be able to do stars 6, 7 on the phone and then you could, like, add more people to the phone call? No phones.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I don't remember that. Wasn't there a star 9 or star something that you can recall somebody. You can call them back if they called you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that and I think there was a star 69 where you could get their phone numbers.

[Tamara Judge]

Was it? Yes. Do you have a landline in your house?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I haven't had one in 15.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

20 years, but I still remember mine from when I was a kid.

[Tamara Judge]

Remember those little bracelets? I don't know if the kids still get them. They're little ID bracelets. Silver with a chain and the weird little class on it. And it has like some kind of either Bible verse or something on the top, and you flip it over and it has all your information. Because God forbid, if you get lost back then, the only way you can get home is because of that bracelet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Bracelet's gonna get you there.

[Tamara Judge]

It's got your. Your address, it's got your phone number. It'.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's got your bad habits. Yep.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yep.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But anyways, then it get. The episode ends with Sally asked Vanita to talk to Craig. Venita says she doesn't want to at all. Vanita gets frustrated at Sally and says that she's only a girl's girl until a boy's involved. And then she kind of storms off, and she's pissed that Sally decides to stay at the party.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that was a little too much for me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I thought it was all friends.

[Tamara Judge]

They've all been on the show for a while. This is an ensemble cast, and I hate when people try to alienate other cast members from other people because they don't like them. Yes. I'm very stern about that because I'm speaking from personal experience, and if I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Add it in quotes, it makes it more serious.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. So I don't like that. I don't like that. When you start alienating and making a big division in the cast, it makes for a screwed up season.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yep.

[Tamara Judge]

So let her go. I mean, you could. You could say, hey, I don't like it. Not cool. But if that's what you want to do, that's what I'm going to do. But don't.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

You grow some balls and go in and have the conversation. Let's get it over with right at the beginning.

[Tamara Judge]

How many episodes are we going to watch before they get this conversation going?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, we got to wait until they have a big fight because Sally's made out with them.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, so you think, like episode three?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Fully made out. Because, you know, Craig, he's gonna wait now before he gets into now.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He's. He's being patient, being very, very patient.

[Tamara Judge]

But either way, he's looking for the one. But I think him and Sally are cute couple.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know that, but the other girl's.

[Tamara Judge]

Cute, too, and I don't know her yet, so I have to get to know her a little bit. I like Sally.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know we like Sally. Sally and Craig sitting in a tree.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, was Sally friends with Paige?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't think so. I think she just maybe met her once. Okay, I don't think so. I don't think she's breaking any girl.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, were they insinuating that Paige cheated on Craig when they showed, like, flashes of some article about her being with some other guy?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, but that was always the insinuation once they broke up. But they showed her some sporting event.

[Tamara Judge]

And I. I love Paige and I follow her, her podcasts and all that stuff. I've never seen her with another guy or talk about one or anything.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's why she. They said, I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, they said that?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I know.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think we have any real information on Paige. And because of that, now Craig can run with whatever story he wants.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I'm worried about. And she's going to get pissed off and then she's going to say something.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I don't think she will. I think she has a good amount of self, like she can stop herself from reacting. And I don't think Craig has that same ability. All right, well, thanks for. Clearly we like this episode. So thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Two T's in a pod where we recapped Southern Charm.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, guys, if you have not ever watched Southern Charm, you're missing out. You are missing out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Tune in.

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