Play Your Cards Right (RHOSLC Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: “Play Your Cards Right (RHOSLC Recap)”

Two Ts in a Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Release Date: November 6, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Two Ts in a Pod" dives into a recap and spirited discussion of the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC), along with a breakdown of the just-released Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) season 15 trailer. Teddi and Tamra, both Bravo veterans, bring their signature candor and shade, providing inside perspectives on housewives casting, season drama, and cast dynamics. The recap is punctuated with personal stories, pop culture references, and plenty of witty banter.

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Major Themes & Discussion Points

1. Life Updates, Recasting, and Pop Culture (03:53–16:08)

• The episode kicks off with the hosts exchanging personal updates—Teddi’s dog care mishap and Tamra’s excitement at attending a Ferragamo sample sale.
• Tamra discusses her recent appearance on a Desperate Housewives recap podcast, reflecting on the influence of the show and nostalgia for scripted drama vs. reality TV.
• Discussion shifts to the release of the RHOBH season 15 trailer, exploring casting changes, anticipated drama, and new cast members.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi: “They walked so we could run. Is that how they say it? Yes, we're running, baby.” (06:55)

2. RHOBH Trailer Breakdown – New Faces, Old Drama (07:12–17:11)

• Tamra and Teddi dissect the RHOBH trailer’s highlights: Kyle’s relationship saga, the addition of Rachel Zoe and Amanda Francis, big destinations (The Hamptons, Sedona, Florence), and hints of new rivalries.
• They analyze the risks and rewards of recasting, referencing the failed attempt with RHONY and how Bravo handles casting challenges.
• Discussion of Amanda Francis—a new housewife with a large social following and a finance background—proves intriguing and skeptical.

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra: "You really have to be careful when you recast a show or when you add people and get rid of people because we saw what happened with New York and that was not good.” (11:34)
• Teddi: “Casting is not easy. It's probably one of the hardest things to do.” (11:54)
• Tamra: “Rachel Zoe was a good choice because she has been on Bravo before, and she knows how to do reality TV. And of course, she's fabulous.” (15:53)

3. RHOSLC Recap: Yacht Drama, Allegiances, and Fart Jokes (17:40–51:28)

Boat Trip Fallout & Accusations (17:40–26:27)

• The Salt Lake City cast continues their drama-filled yacht trip. Lingering accusations about leaked stories create a tense breakfast, with Heather confronting Lisa as the supposed source.
• Teddi and Tamra question the logic of the accusations and the difficulty of proving who leaks information in the housewives universe.
• The power of social media in stirring drama and fan theories is highlighted.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi: “No one's going to admit it unless they're caught in red handed and black and white.” (19:10)
• Tamra: "Why is it so hard to believe that maybe the fans are the reason for the digging in the dirt, not Lisa? Social media brings up so much stuff…” (25:43)

Loyalty Battles: Lisa, Meredith, and the Power of Friendship (26:28–38:16)

• Lisa feels unsupported by Meredith; Tamra points out Lisa’s hypocrisy in expecting allegiance she doesn’t reciprocate.
• Meredith’s measured support is discussed; both hosts appreciate friends who call out bad behavior rather than blindly defend.
• Mary’s candid, sometimes cutting, commentary wins laughs and controversy.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi: “Lisa, why don't you give us an example of what you would like her to do for you by doing it for her.” (27:52)
• Tamra: “You can't... I have friends on the show, I'm going to defend them. But if they're doing something wrong... I would expect the same for me.” (37:23)

Housewife “Game Play”: Strategic Apologies, Siding, and Social Survival (38:17–39:23, 40:15–46:19)

• Angie’s strategic game play is highlighted, with Teddi calling her "a chess player," emphasizing how every housewife works angles behind the scenes.
• Teddi and Tamra note that housewives alliances are driven by both true friendships and pragmatic survival instincts, with apologies sometimes being more performative than sincere.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi: “Angie's a chess player... She has no bones about throwing somebody under the bus that she doesn't like and that the public doesn't like.” (34:32)
• Tamra: “You can't tell me not one housewife on any show is not a chess player.” (34:52)

Comic Relief and Costume Chaos (39:23–40:17, 47:12–48:08)

• The episode’s few light-hearted moments include Bronwyn and Angie dressing up in inflatable costumes, providing comic relief amid drama.
• Props, costumes, and party themes are celebrated (in true RHOSLC fashion), though Teddi admits she's “not into the costumes and props.”

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra: “Bronwyn and Angie dressing up in the inflatable costumes was a light hearted moment that this episode really needed, don't you think?” (39:23)

Relationship Referees, Fights & Fragile Friendships (45:31–51:28)

• Captain Jason, the multitasking “yacht medic,” avoids the women’s arguments, humorously refusing to play therapist or referee.
• RHOSLC is described as teetering on the edge of too much fighting, with apologies issued almost out of obligation.
• Teddi and Tamra worry the show’s friendships are reaching a point of no return, echoing troubles they've seen on their own franchises.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi: “It's getting to the point where it's too much fighting and separation, that they are not looking like friends at all.” (46:19)
• Tamra: “This is what's pissing me off right now. It's like… you're going to go too far to come back. And that's a scary thing.” (46:27)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• “They walked so we could run. Is that how they say it? Yes, we're running, baby.” — Teddi (06:55)
• “You really have to be careful when you recast a show… we saw what happened with New York and that was not good.” — Tamra (11:34)
• “No one's going to admit it unless they're caught in red handed and black and white.” — Teddi (19:10)
• “Lisa, why don't you give us an example of what you would like her to do for you by doing it for her.” — Teddi (27:52)
• “Angie’s a chess player... She has no bones about throwing somebody under the bus that she doesn't like.” — Teddi (34:32)
• “Lisa, now tell us, show us how you want someone to stick up for you in this moment because you didn't do it a thing.” — Teddi (49:18)
• “It's getting to the point where it's too much fighting and separation, that they are not looking like friends at all.” — Teddi (46:19)
• “This is what's pissing me off right now. It's like… you're going to go too far to come back. And that's a scary thing.” — Tamra (46:27)

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Episode Flow & Structure (Selected Timestamps)

• 03:53–07:11 | Life updates, Desperate Housewives podcast experience
• 07:12–16:08 | RHOBH trailer breakdown and casting analysis
• 17:40–26:27 | RHOSLC yacht trip fallout: leaks, breakfast drama
• 26:28–38:16 | Housewife loyalty, Lisa vs. Meredith, Mary’s interventions
• 38:17–40:17, 47:12–48:08 | Comic relief: costume moments, party props
• 45:31–51:28 | Captain Jason, fighting's escalation, apologies, Bravocon talk

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Tone and Style

The conversation is direct, unfiltered, and playful—full of Bravo-insider wisdom (“chess play,” friendships-as-tactics), shade, and authentic housewife banter. Teddi and Tamra don’t hold back on calling out housewives' hypocrisy or failed strategies but balance critique with humor and understanding.

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Final Thoughts

This episode provides a thorough, entertaining lens on both RHOBH’s new season and RHOSLC’s fraught yacht trip—with Teddi and Tamra serving up hot takes for Bravo fans and casual listeners alike. The podcast is rich with housewives lore, relatable industry struggles, and hilariously specific observations you won't find elsewhere.

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Two t's in a pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tama.

[F]

Hey guys. Welcome to another episode of two Teas in a Pod with myself into Loris. Good morning.

[D]

Beautiful morning.

[A]

How are you? You look great. Makeup. You look fresh. Beautiful.

[F]

This hair was from yesterday. It's a little photo shoot thingy. Majiggy. And so I just kind of.

[A]

Worker girl.

[F]

Oh God, I'm so tired. I'm so exhausted. Where are, where are you off to today? Because you're always off somewhere. I am seeing you everywhere.

[A]

Well, I'm off to 8 Fergamo sample sale after this. Like, it's insane. Last time I got a six thousand dollar purse for like three hundred number one.

[F]

Stop it.

[A]

Yes, I did. Friend and family friend of mine has taken me as a guest. Yes. And all morning I was worried because like a bad mother, I did not realize I was over medicating my dog. And now she can't eat with antibiotics and I'm so worried about dog.

[F]

Where is she?

[A]

She hasn't eaten in a couple days.

[F]

How old is your dog?

[A]

She's 11. And yeah. And. But she's a chihuahua and I was giving her antibiotics and she won't even eat prime rib. Like it's. I am so upset. So I spoke to Gabby and she's like, well, let's go down this road. What are you giving her and what's the dosage? She goes, well, you're giving her triple the dos that she's supposed to be getting. Dolores. Yeah.

[F]

Oh my God.

[A]

Yeah. So it's just. It's just terrible.

[F]

Oh my God. So I did the Desperate Housewives podcast. Was it desperately devoted? I'm not sure when it's going to be out. A lot of people have reached out to me to ask me. It was so much fun. It was definitely a pinch me moment because I remember watching, watching Desperate Housewives. It came out a couple Years prior to Real Housewives.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

I remember just watching it and loving it and. And it was really fun. I was. To recap one of their episodes with them. I actually this weekend just like laid in bed and watched a ton. Like, almost. Not all of season, out of all seasons, season one. But let me tell you, I want to go back and watch the entire franchise.

[A]

That sounds brilliant and I may do that. It's kind of like I'm done. I've been watching Sex in the City. You know, that's the airplane show that we always do. I think I'll do Desperate Housewives.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Because, you know, like, I'm looking at their cup that Terry gave me. They're holding apples. I mean, it was.

[A]

We copied off that.

[F]

Well, it's more referencing, like Adam and Eve and all the scandalous stuff going.

[A]

On, scenes in there and things.

[F]

But they. If you think about it, there's so much like us. I mean, they definitely gave us what we have today because of what they did. Theirs was just scripted so they don't have to worry about the backlash like we do.

[A]

And the lucky ones, there was no.

[F]

Social media back then, so, yeah, they.

[A]

Walked so we could run. Is that how they say it? Yes. We're running, baby.

[F]

Yeah. But Teri Hatcher is absolutely lovely in person. She seems a lot like her character on the show. I met her real life daughter.

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And.

[F]

Then her on screen daughter. So there was a few. There was four of us. But it's gonna drop soon, so I'll let you guys know when. But you know what else dropped was the trailer for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season 15. And it was good.

[A]

Yeah, it did seem good. I mean, you know, I'm ready for it to be good, to be honest. Yeah, we got to be shady, but I'm ready for something.

[F]

They had a couple of stale years, but I think that this looks so good. I feel like Kyle was good then. Kyle looks like she got her groove back. She looks like, you know, going through a divorce. Not a divorce, but I don't even know if they're divorced or whatever. But the separation the last few years, she feels like she's back, she's stronger. We got a couple new faces on the show. It opens with Bose telling Kyle if they're going to be friends, she needs all the info. Kyle says to just ask what you want to ask, what do you want? And then Kyle goes, I could go Brad or I can go Angelina.

[A]

Okay, all right. Okay. I'll accept that. At least it's something.

[F]

Well, I think the girls have been on her for years about her dating life and who she's dating, who she's not dating. And I think that she's just, like, ready to say, like, screw all of you.

[A]

Well, no one else gets away with not.

[F]

I know.

[A]

I'm just saying, you know, Kyle has diplomatic immunity over here in the Bravo world, and she's gotten away with so much of not talking about what's going on that Bose held her hand to the fire and rightfully so. So, yeah. Yeah. So we get to meet.

[F]

We get to re. Meet Rachel Zo. Did you ever watch her show back in the day?

[A]

I did. I like her. I actually like her.

[F]

I remember meeting her way back in the early days of Bravo when we used to have, like, the A list, awards and all these things. I'm talking 17 years ago. So Rachel comes on and says basically she's lived in the Bravo world before. So here I am. She's looking to have a hot girl summer, which ends with her saying, this is not a hot girl summer. Later, she.

[A]

She says, there are hot girl summers at our age.

[C]

Right.

[F]

I was thinking the same thing. Like, even if you're hot, it's called menopause summer. We're hot because it's hot, but not the hot.

[A]

You're thinking sis, but okay. Welcome back.

[F]

Later, she says about one of the women that she thinks she's fake and plays both sides well. Welcome to Housewives, Rachel. Welcome to Housewives. The women are going to listen to this. The Hamptons, Sedona and Florence, Italy this season.

[A]

Oh, just like. Just like New Jersey.

[F]

I know, right?

[A]

Oh, my God. You know, I was really. When I was watching the episode last night, I was really kind of disgusted at their trip, and I am really over it.

[F]

I was very jealous of that trip.

[A]

Except for all.

[F]

All the barfing, though.

[A]

We got that. I know, but I'd rather take the barfing than the Jersey Shore because the Jersey Shore makes barf sometimes so. Or all the time. But yeah, so.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Well, Denise shows up to talk about her divorce with Aaron, who she says, release naked photos of her.

[A]

She said, sometimes that makes you more famous, Denise. No worries.

[F]

I haven't. I don't know where these naked pictures are. I thought they were only fans.

[A]

I'm sorry. If we get them for free, then I guess that ruins her only fans. Maybe that's how he tries.

[F]

Well, nobody, I think. I think you can get in big trouble for releasing naked pictures like that.

[A]

Oh, well, we found that out. Question. Big question. Is There anyone that didn't come back?

[F]

Yeah, Garcelle. It's not back.

[A]

Okay. But anyone else that we didn't know about?

[F]

Well, yeah, there's an Amanda Francis. So I looked her up on social media. She has a pretty good following on social media already. I looked through it this morning. She's. She talks about God a lot and she talks about money. She's got three kids. It looks like she. She looks really interesting on her social media. How to give you that?

[A]

She's older.

[F]

I don't know. She doesn't look very old because she's got little kids. Kids and a fiance and she's a self made. Whatever. So interesting.

[A]

Okay. You know, you really have to be careful when you recast a show or when you add people and get rid of people because we saw what happened with New York and that was not good. That was a big mess.

[F]

Well, I think it's really difficult and I don't. I wonder if they'll ever do it again. But to recast the entire cast.

[A]

Casting is not easy. It's probably one of the hardest things to do.

[F]

Yeah. Because people don't, you know, I think when they go through casting, they get in front of a camera and they try to shoot scenes so they can see if because people get camera shy, people want to self produce.

[A]

Sometimes they fall flat on camera.

[F]

Yeah. Yeah. And they could be so exciting off camera. Like my husband's the funniest guy in the entire world, but then he gets on camera and he's just like. It's just not his thing. So Jarita sitting down with Mauricio to discuss her relationship with PK Later, Kyle is seen crying to Mauricio. Rachel's dealing with her divorce. I didn't know her divorce was new. I thought they had already gone through the divorce and all that. Bose is having some medical issues. Don't know what that's about. Erica says something is off about the new housewife, Amanda. Bose tells Amanda she is not being clear about her life. And Amanda says to her fiance Eddie that someone is intimidated by her. Because I'm young and I'm successful and I'm financially dependent. I'm not financially dependent on a man. And she's outsourced her financial well being to a man and it didn't go well. So I'm. Yeah. So they're not going to get along.

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Clearly.

[F]

Kathy. We get a little Kathy Hilton, which is always good. Kathy Hilton says to someone to read the room and know your place. Dorit is late.

[A]

Typically talk like that. To someone. She's usually very nice.

[F]

See what happens. We're all sweet girls and we get on when we cast. Get cast. Right. And then all of a sudden, we turn into these.

[A]

A sweetheart.

[F]

Yeah. Well, something must have made her really mad.

[A]

I'm curious what would make her mad because she doesn't usually. She's not usually reactive. I know.

[F]

Drit is later telling Kathy the days of her grinning and burying it are fucking over. It's not happening. Well, she. I don't think she grinned and buried anything last season. I think Dorit. She. She carried the season on her back last year because she was so outspoken and. And Beverly Hills doesn't really. Since Lisa Ren has been gone, we've never had that cast member do that.

[A]

Somebody was talking about me to me about Lisa Rena yesterday and how good she's done off. Off the show and. Yeah, I don't think she wants to come back ever. No.

[F]

I think.

[A]

I don't know that they wouldn't have her back. I think they want her back, but she don't want it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. I can't speak for her.

[F]

Yeah, no. She's made it very vocal. She won't come back. Kyle calls out someone for lying, especially because the camera doesn't lie. And I always say that the camera doesn't lie. You can see right through it. You can see when somebody's lying. Sutton shuts down Jennifer Tilly, who then gets up and is caught saying, this is why Garcelle left, because it's always about Sutton.

[A]

And there goes another friendship that was. They were friends before they started and now they're not.

[F]

We don't see a lot of Sutton in this.

[A]

It's the grip of friend that doesn't mean anything.

[F]

I know it doesn't.

[A]

It's not indicative of somebody's involvement on the show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Ever. So, yeah, it just means it's just the trailer and it happens.

[F]

Yeah. Well, it looks like Kyle and Jerry are fighting again. And this time Erica gets involved, which pisses Dorit off. So, overall, I thought that it looked like a very juicy, good trailer. Their artwork is stunning.

[D]

A little.

[F]

Little too photoshopped, but very, very beautiful. I reached out to Alex Baskin and I said, wow, that looks amazing. He said, yep, it's a good, solid season.

[A]

Good. I love to hear it. I like. I think the newbies sound like they are going to do well, and that's always a very big. It's a really big component when you bring in the new girls. They need to Perform.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I think take the weight off the. Off the people that have been busting their ass all these years.

[F]

I think that Rachel Zoe was a good choice because she has been on Bravo before, and she knows how to do reality tv. And of course, she's fabulous and always has the outfits on and rich.

[A]

Fabulous.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And she has a following, so it's good.

[F]

The new girl, I don't know who she's connected to. I did see some pictures of her with Kathy Hilton on her Instagram, so I don't know if those were before, you know, she started filming.

[A]

I'm gonna Google her now, and I'm gonna go look for her.

[F]

I want to know she's written a book. It's about being like, fine. I think it's.

[A]

Guess what? Anyone can write a book.

[F]

I. I know.

[A]

I know when I hear people, I.

[F]

Don'T know what it's like.

[A]

I wrote a book about my life, and I'm like.

[F]

So I'm not sure what her book was about. I don't know if it's about finances. I think the word God was in the title. I'm not sure.

[A]

Okay, so she's a finance person. She's a what?

[F]

She kind of looks like. Almost like a little bit of a motivational speaker. On her Instagram, it's called rich, as is the name of her book.

[A]

Well, God isn't in that.

[F]

God is wrong about the time. No, I was wrong with the title. But I'm just saying there's a lot of references to God in on her Instagram.

[A]

A lot. Okay, all right, fine.

[F]

Well, have to thank for something.

[A]

Don't.

[F]

And she. She. We know she's religious and she's rich as. And that's all we know.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

We see her in the trailer taking a bath and money.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

For a photo shoot. So she's. She's going to annoy Teddy. I already know that because she hates when people, like, brag about.

[A]

Well, that. But I. I know. We know you don't, because you didn't feel that way about Miami.

[F]

So Stephanie. No, because I just love Stephanie's snarkiness. But if I had to film with it, I probably would get annoyed.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

You know, well, let's get into Salt Lake City. This is episode eight. And we are. They are still on that yacht, right? They are still with.

[A]

It feels like forever ever. Because it's like, what, in between a week since we've seen them last?

[F]

Yeah, well, the girls are. The girls all wake up on the yacht. Heather is upset that Lisa could not admit to being the source of the leaks.

[A]

Okay, well, who's gonna admit that? Yeah, I did it.

[F]

Yeah. And it's like. And they're like, they won't leave it alone. First of all, we see Bronwyn waking up in the morning with a face mask laying out on the deck. She slept on the deck.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

So Bronwyn did not want to sleep in the same room as Brittany, obviously, so bad that she would sleep out on the deck in the middle of the ocean. You know what? At a certain point, I started to feel nauseous just watching the boat rock and rock. And I'm like, I. I don't know that I would do great. I've never gotten seasick before. But Angie seems like she's doing better. She's got all the patches and taking all the shit. So she.

[A]

Oh, it's a terrible feeling. Terrible, terrible.

[F]

What do you think if somebody said to Heather G, I admit that you're leaking all the stories about these girls?

[A]

What do I think?

[F]

What would you think she would say?

[A]

What?

[F]

What would Heather Gay say? Admit you're leaking it. Just admit it.

[A]

She would say the same thing. No, I didn't.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

So no one's gonna. No one's going to admit it unless they are. No one's going to admit it unless they're caught in red handed and black and white.

[F]

Seriously, why do they think that it's Lisa?

[A]

Because it's. They always do. It's. They. I think it's been Lisa in the past.

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Why is it so hard to believe that maybe the fans are the reason for the digging in the dirt, not Lisa? The social media brings up so much stuff and then what happens is you see it. We see Brittany looking at Tik Tok and you know, bringing that up later in the episode.

[A]

There's so many.

[F]

So they think Lisa is the one that is call digging up the dirt, calling bloggers and exposing the dirt.

[A]

Yeah. And they will not let it go there. It could be so many different people. There could be so many. They don't have proof. This is all like a legend. So Unless you're showing me this in black and white. And that's how I feel about it. Credible black and white. Don't show it to me.

[C]

Don't.

[F]

There was a little moment where Heather says to Lisa, well, you're always the source of everything. Like you know, everything first.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, a lot of people tell her things that could be true. A lot of people tell all of us things. Yeah, but it doesn't mean you have to repeat it. Right now I'm going to talk about something I didn't like Lisa did moving forward. Okay. Episode. But we'll get. We'll get to that.

[F]

Well, Lisa gets upset with Meredith for not sticking up for her.

[A]

I'm getting sick of that too. Yeah.

[F]

Do you think that Meredith should stick up for Lisa more or is Lisa overreacting on this?

[A]

I've never seen Lisa jump a non Meredith fight once with Britney. Not once. Not once. I am so sick of people getting on Meredith because she's the only one sticking up for Lisa, and quite frankly, she's getting shit on for it. And Lisa wants her to do more. Well, I think Lisa could do more for her.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

When she was fighting with Britney at the zombie breakfast or dinner, whatever it was, and Brittany brought up her husband's maybe indiscretions that were on TikTok, Lisa just sat there. She didn't even utter a word. Lisa, why did you.

[F]

Oh, my God, you're so right about that. She didn't stick up for her.

[A]

Why don't you?

[F]

If she did, we didn't see it.

[A]

Lisa. She didn't. Lisa, why don't you give us an example of what you would like her to do for you by doing it for her. That's what I want to say because I haven't even seen the slightest bit of Lisa jumping in on any single one of Meredith's problems.

[F]

You're actually right about that. So at breakfast, Prominent makes a comment about Britney trying to get one of the crew members in her bed. Now they do have this little flashback and it's basically that Captain Jason fixing the ac. Here we go with the AC again. Another show talking about ac.

[A]

Okay, so he fixed the ac. He came in and he came out. Not a big deal. They've been trying to say she was trying to hump this guy since she got on the boat. She asked him for a tour. Okay. They just want to pin this on her. I'm not. I don't think it was really that. I'm not saying she would have threw him out of bed.

[F]

But it's just like, it's such a reach. And the mayor says she heard that Captain Jason was in Britney's room last night.

[A]

Right.

[F]

And Brittany confirmed fixing the AC for three minutes. Captain Jason, what do you think? What do you think Jason's thinking right.

[A]

Now as he's watching Jason's like, I hope these bitches never come near me again.

[F]

Why am I involved? I know Bronwyn starts yelling at Lisa, telling her that she heard Lisa talking shit to Brittany about her.

[A]

That was, like, such a gift. Like I. And you know what was funny? When Angie went up to Bronwyn, who was Angie with when they went upstairs? And was it Heather?

[F]

No, I think it was Heather.

[A]

I forget. Anyway, then when Bronwyn sitting there with her little book and she's hearing what everyone. I never get that lucky. I never personally hear anyone talking about me. So I was like, that is so cool. And she's like, yeah, let's get up and walk away. Like, she didn't even want to hear it. Yeah, I would have been, like, excited.

[F]

Was it that she didn't want to hear it, or she wanted to talk shit about them and didn't want them to hear her?

[A]

Well, that. That. Actually, Tamara, you're right. That was. That was it. And. Yeah. So then. Then, anyway, Lisa explains that she doesn't want her to say anything about anyone's kids and always tries to do the right thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, Lisa.

[F]

Lisa was telling Brittany how Bronwyn asked her to contact Gwen's parents, but then was saying something different on camera. So they're. They're not doing Lisa any favors. Lisa's not doing herself any favors.

[A]

But Lisa had the text that Bronwyn did ask her to reach out. She showed the text, so.

[F]

Oh, so was the text was in her favor?

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

I was thinking. Okay, I must have read it wrong. I must have read it wrong. Yeah. Angie calls BS on what Lisa says. Lisa explains she doesn't want anything to do with anyone's kids and always tries to do the right thing. Anytime. Any housewives, when they were trying to.

[A]

Do the right thing, when they were at the Tequila Lounge, they had came to a truce and an agreement that there would be no more talking about kids and husbands. And that was.

[F]

Well, that didn't last long.

[A]

That didn't last because then after Lisa's lunch, moving forward, Lisa has her dismissed. Lunch? Yeah. And they all, like, kind of made up and whatever. And then they went to Lisa's Tequila Lounge.

[F]

And was it off camera? It was off camera, Right.

[A]

It Was off camera.

[F]

Off camera.

[A]

But they had a picture and they were all sitting on the couch. And Bronwyn's at the end of the couch and Lisa leans over to Angie and goes like this with her hair over her mouth. Yeah. Todd was kissing somebody. I know. And farting and making out and farting at the same time. That doesn't seem right to me that she one did it. Said it. I was laughing so hard.

[F]

By the way, when was this? Was this, like, recent? Like she. Is she accusing him of cheating or just farting? I don't know what he's being accused of.

[A]

Everything. And the funny thing is, Mary's like, I don't know whether to be upset about him kissing someone or farting while he was doing it. Mary's like, is he okay? Mary? Nobody wants to. Nobody ever calls out Mary for the things she says or does, by the way, because they're afraid of her. They're afraid of the wrath that comes for years afterwards.

[F]

Yeah. What is with Angie always talking about farting this season?

[A]

I know.

[F]

Ms. Mary. Now Todd fart.

[A]

It's the fart season. But that it was embarrassing. I don't. I don't know how credible it is. Well, Bronwyn's pissed because it has every right to be. Yeah.

[F]

She's like, you're dead. You're dead, you're dead.

[A]

She should be. But Brian went on watch what happens live, explained why she answered Lisa. Because moving forward, Lisa apologizes.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And she's like, I know it's very rude to not respond to someone when they're speaking to you. So just because I responded to her doesn't mean that I'm in agreeance with anything she said or I believe anything she said. I responded to her because I'm not a rude person.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Listen, she's. Bronwyn is really growing on me, and I like her.

[F]

I think she's a great addition to the cast. Like one. Yes. But she is very upset. I'm not against Angie bringing this up, but I can't. But can you imagine if the roles were reversed and Lisa brought it up off camera? Lisa would be annihilated.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Totally. So, I mean, I think there's different rules for Lisa, but Lisa does it to herself.

[F]

Yeah, she. She does it herself a little bit. The girls are not being.

[A]

She's not very well liked. It is not her season. It makes you trying to get red.

[F]

I know the feeling.

[A]

You know, and there was another thing, too. When Lisa woke up in the morning and she came out with no makeup on at all. Not even lip gloss. Yeah. She had her big glasses on. She sits down and they all got up and walked away.

[F]

I saw that. That looks so bad.

[A]

I kind of did. I felt bad.

[F]

It's kind of the worst feeling. I. Trust me, I know what that feels like. It's not a good feeling. The girls arrive at the Topanga.

[A]

Don't worry, it's not the Jersey case. Whatever it is. It's like the billionaires playground thing. Yeah.

[F]

Angie apologized to Brahmin for not being supportive in the past. Do you think Angie's sorry? Saying sorry. Sincere. She trying to get closer to Bronwyn to piss off Lisa.

[A]

Angie's a chess player. Oh, and she's a hustler. Angie's a chess player. Angie is.

[F]

That's how you make it on the show. I'm sorry. You have to play cards.

[A]

Right. And she has no bones about throwing somebody under the bus that she doesn't like and. And that the public doesn't like. Angie is a chess player.

[F]

You can't tell me not one housewife on any show is not a chess player. There is people that do things that are maybe not so obvious. Maybe they become friends with somebody because they know if they don't, they're going to talk shit about them. You know, there's like, so many different angles. Or they say things behind the camera to other people and then deny, like, everybody.

[A]

I have a lot for Angie's intelligence in this game. Angeli. Angie is a game player. And then, you know, then after that, you see Lisa's talking to Mary because she has no one else to speak to at all. And Lisa's talks to Mary, who can't even believe she's even speaking. Mary can't even believe.

[F]

Mary can't even believe she's on this show.

[A]

Mary's like, why am I even talking to Lisa? But at this point, it's a little bit kooky. And Mary sides with Lisa. Mary sides with Lisa. She can't even believe. She's like, why am I siding with Lisa? And she's like, I do think Meredith can stick up for Lisa more. I disagree. I.

[F]

And then I was shocked that she went that route. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Because I do think Meredith is. I always say Meredith's kind of the Heather of, you know, on Orange county, that she is kind of the peacekeeper and tries to have people's backs and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, I. I disagree with that, too. Mary wonders why Meredith doesn't speak up for Lisa when they are such good friends. Meredith tells Lisa that she will only support her if she agrees with her. Mary tells Meredith she isn't a good friend and that she's boring.

[A]

A lot of things come out of Mary's mouth and I'm not going to go against Mary because I don't want to fight with Mary ever because I like her and no one wants to fight with Mary. Yeah, of course she doesn't let things go. She'll go on forever. That'll be a ten year thing. But the thing with Mary is she, she's like, she. I don't think everyone sees what I'm seeing. Is it just me? Why should Meredith, why should Meredith throw herself on the sword? Because she does stand by her always. She's the only one that stands by her. But she, she said something and it was a very pivotal statement in this comment that she says during the. Her walking in on this conversation with Mary and Lisa and she goes, you know what, Lisa? I stick up for you when I agree with you sometimes. Lisa's not defendable.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And Meredith still stands by her.

[F]

But that's the point right there. You can't. Like, I have friends on the show. I'm going to defend them. But if they're doing something wrong, then you go. Then you're like, hey, no, that wasn't cool. I would expect the same for me.

[A]

You don't have to go against them.

[F]

And I don't really. Yeah, but I hate when there is a friendship on a show and no matter what they back up each other even if it's wrong or you know. And so I think when your friend says, listen, no, you're not being right. Like this season, Emily, Emily tells Gina, like, shut up, just stop.

[A]

But then does that make you Switzerland?

[F]

No, that doesn't. That makes a good friend combo.

[A]

What I'm saying like if you will.

[F]

Let your friend know, like, no, I'm not sticking up for you right now because I don't agree with what you're saying.

[A]

Thank you very much. Yeah, get it now. Does everybody get me now?

[F]

Yeah. So Mary is not, she's like not thrilled. Go jump in the ocean. I think you're boring. She's talking. I think you're go get an interesting story to tell because right now you're a snooze. Now Mary, you never know what's going to come out of her mouth.

[A]

You fucking never know. When she called Heather and inbreed. I fell. I rolled on the floor. I didn't fall off My chair. I rolled off my chair. But anyway.

[F]

Do you think that Meredith is boring this season? I mean, we haven't, we haven't seen much of Whitney. Not many peeps. We see her do a backflip last episode in her bikini.

[C]

Yep.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Hanging out. I mean, it's like the whole thing. And you're cute.

[F]

She's young and it's cute.

[A]

Yeah, she's not young and you're cute. Young is three years old. If you want to do a backflip in your bikini, like that's young to be doing that. Now, Bronwyn and Angie dressing up in the inflatable costumes was a light hearted moment that this episode really needed, don't you think?

[F]

Yeah, no, I thought it was cute. I think it was fun. I think the show's known for costumes and props and things like that.

[A]

I'm not into the costumes and props, but hey, why not?

[F]

There's a lot, a lot on this show brings these.

[A]

Okay, fine. But when she got her hand caught in the door, I was like, I think I'm getting weak in my old age because I mean, I actually used to be a surgical assistant and I've seen crazy in the or, but it made me cringe. Just this little thing. I know. Bleeding. She's.

[F]

By the way, those doors scare me. Those doors just close automatically. Right? They just.

[A]

I didn't know. But first your head. She's lucky she didn't need stitches. She's lucky she didn't break her finger. Well, if I was a trooper, if.

[F]

I was Angie, I would never go on a yacht again.

[A]

Yeah, it's just not for her.

[F]

Yep.

[A]

She's from Greece, isn't she? Ms. Greece. That's an island on the water. I mean, maybe it's not an island, but it's like surrounded by water. You're supposed to be inherently able to go on boat.

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Anything as perfectly dramatic and totally engrossing as reality tv, it might be the procedural shows on primetime TV right now.

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[F]

Well, I'm sure somewhere in the yacht Brittany is fuming because Angie's getting all this attention from Captain Jason. He is. He, he runs that ship. He's in the kitchen, he's driving it. Do you drive a yacht? I don't know what it's called. Anyways, and he's a doctor. We find out he's. He's a medic as well. He's doing it all on this yacht.

[A]

Listen, he's a man with. Wearing many hats on this cruise and, and, but I'll tell you what hat he's not wearing. He is not being the therapist and he is not being the referee because he runs when it comes to fighting. So here goes this zombie dinner now. And I mean, I'm scared because these girls are angry. They're really angry. And, and the show's borderline. Almost too much fighting right now for me.

[F]

Yeah, I was gonna say that it's getting to the point where it's too much fighting and separation, that they are not looking like friends at all.

[A]

Yeah, so this is what's pissing me off right now. It's like getting to be like you guys are reaching that place where I saw happening on my show where it's getting. You're going to go too far to come back. And that's a scary thing. I thought they were cute, but I even got nervous that they had actual like knives and stuff anywhere near them because at this point they want to all Kill each other. And then there we go again. Another apology at the table from Lisa saying, okay, here we go again. I'll apologize again. And promise you I'm never going to talk about your kid or your husband. Yeah. For maybe one episode, for the rest of this dinner.

[F]

Can we talk about the squid or whatever it was that was on Bronwyn's head and on her shoulder? I was so distracted like that. I'm like, what octopus? How is that? Is that a zombie thing? An octopus?

[A]

It looked like, you know, well, she's dead. Maybe the octopus.

[F]

Those little things that kids, they throw against the wall and it used to splat.

[A]

I know.

[F]

It just was like.

[A]

And leave oil. Because we are. We're doing our job.

[F]

I didn't like that. Just kind of like, oh, I didn't like that very much.

[A]

Well, I was wondering, you know what I kept thinking? I'm like, did production bring these for them? Because they all looked great, by the way.

[F]

Well, it's like ultimate. It's like ultimate girls trip.

[A]

You know, it was really gory.

[F]

They're like, okay, on this day we're gonna have a theme party on this day, we're gonna have a relay race on this day. So you kind of know. So they probably were told, hey, we're going to have a zombie party. Probably. Heather set it up.

[A]

You know what's funny? And Andy did ask a very good question because he always does. He's a great interviewer. And, you know, I. Was it him that said it. You seemed more about the fact that it was repeated than the fact that it happened.

[F]

Isn't that the case all the time? A lot of times on this show, it's, you're gonna kill the messenger, but you're gonna let the person that actually did the crime off. Yeah, like, I hate that. I hate that mentality. I hate it. These shows are all about repeating, bringing things up. But when Brittany brings up the tick tock she saw about sass.

[C]

Possible.

[F]

Meredith denies. She stayed very calm, very cool. I think she has seen this before. She probably knew it was going to come up. She did not get overly, like, heated. I mean, she did, but not too bad. She denied it and doesn't know why. Yeah, but what? Like, I would have jumped over the table and like, she threw her.

[A]

Choked her out at her. Her saw. She threw the saw at her. Oh, boohoo.

[F]

She started plastic saw.

[A]

And this is where I say, okay.

[F]

Lisa, I guess my anger is just worse than that.

[A]

It is, but it's okay. So now this is where I want Lisa to step in. Okay, Lisa, now tell us, show us how you want someone to stick up for you in this moment because you didn't do it a thing. And there was another time she was fighting with Brittany and she sat there and then when Meredith at the dismissed lunch started sticking up for her and everybody jumped on her, Lisa sat back and didn't stick up for her.

[F]

Yeah, I, I feel like, I feel like Meredith is a good friend to Lisa. I do. I really, I think is a very good friend. Sometimes in the moment of feeling like you're being ganged up that your best friend, it's never enough. It's not like, like it's never like I need you to stick up for me more. So I don't know if, I don't know if that's the case. I mean I felt like that before. Meredith denies it, doesn't know why Britney is bringing it up. Captain Jason tries to sit down with the girls and then gets up to leave when Meredith and Brittany can't stop arguing.

[A]

So this is where this guy says okay, this is out of my scope of practice.

[F]

I am out of here. Fuck this, I am out of this.

[A]

These bitches are crazy. And I'm afraid the way that Britney.

[F]

Brought it up was. I don't, I didn't like it. It just seems so performative like I don't know, I feel like she does things and it just doesn't land right or doesn't come out of her mouth or.

[A]

No one's nice to Britney anyway by the way.

[F]

I mean I'm actually most of them do. I'm shocked they're not trying to blame Lisa for this TikTok at this point.

[A]

I know, right? Well it's the first thing they haven't blamed her for. So wait a second. So maybe the person that put this TikTok out is the person that's putting other things out. Anyway, I was very sad to see the unicorn thrown off the boat because the unicorn didn't bother anybody. I felt bad. It's like now this stuffed animals floating in the ocean and now I feel.

[F]

Like somebody fish is gonna turtle's gonna die because of it.

[A]

Yeah. But you know what? I hope they fished it out and I hope we see that unicorn at Bravocon.

[F]

By the way, it's only like a week away. Bravocon.

[A]

You have your clothes. I don't ish.

[F]

I'm not going over the top. I'm just for the watch what happened lives and the Bravos. I'm gonna wear dresses. But during the day. I want to be comfortable. It's a lot of walking, it's a lot of touching.

[A]

It's a lot of craziness. It is. So I'm gonna, that's my job to have by the end of this week and have everything all settled. So I've had so many people reach.

[F]

Out to say, is there any way you can get me Bravocon tickets? I guess people reselling them for like crazy amount of money, like four grand or something like that. And I've heard if you wait to the very end, the very last day or whatever that the prices go way down for resellers. I'm not sure I just heard that. But you know, nothing, nothing we can do. We get a few tickets and that's that.

[A]

We get going to my.

[F]

My glam. Yep, Going to my glam. My assistant, my husband.

[A]

We need them. Husband. The rules about your husband. Anyway, guys, I gotta get to my sale. I love you.

[F]

That was so much fun. And I will see you very soon.

[A]

Yes, have fun.

[F]

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Afterweightloss.Com this is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, or osa, in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing. If anyone has ever said you snored loudly, or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at. Don't sleep on osa.com this information is provided by Lilly, a medicine company. This is an I Heart Podcast.

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