Post BravoCon Hangover

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Post BravoCon Hangover

Date: November 19, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this lively “Post BravoCon Hangover” episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, both Real Housewives alumni, dish on everything BravoCon 2025: the highs, the surprises, the reunions, and the fan interactions (plus, plenty of candid behind-the-scenes stories and Housewife gossip). Still recovering from the exhausting convention and the “BravoCon plague” that swept through attendees, the duo share everything from reunions to feuds, touching fan moments, reality TV reflections, and exclusive insider scoop on cast changes—including Vicki Gunvalson’s dramatic return. The conversation is candid, tongue-in-cheek, and seriously unfiltered.

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Episode Highlights

1. Surviving BravoCon – The “BravoCon Plague”

Timestamps: 03:35–05:23

• Both hosts complain about catching an illness post-BravoCon, with nearly everyone "feeling like death" after days of “going, going, going.”
  • Teddi: "We are back from Covidcon—I mean, BravoCon—and so many of us are sick. I feel like death." (03:35)
  • Tamra: "My throat's killing me...I really hope I get something. I need a reason to stay in bed." (04:04)
• Humorous reflection on housewives and podcasters being mobbed by enthusiastic fans—and being recognized more for the podcast than their TV roles.

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2. Best (and Worst?) Encounters at BravoCon

Timestamps: 05:23–07:24

• Tamra’s favorite encounter: Bronwyn, who was genuinely kind and went out of her way for Tamra’s friends.
• Teddi is impressed by Dr. Contessa (Married to Medicine), admires her fitness and her insistence on supporting Teddi’s products.
• They dispel rumors about Sai De Silva not being nice: both say she was lovely and "so fashionable."
  • Teddi: "She was so kind to me. So sweet, so fashionable. She just has the best fashion ever." (06:45)
• They agree that nobody left a negative impression.

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3. On-Screen Feuds vs. Real-Life Interactions

Timestamps: 07:24–08:25

• The hosts discuss occasionally being anxious to meet cast members they've critiqued on the podcast but were pleasantly surprised by the maturity and graciousness of those stars.

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4. Vicki Gunvalson Gets Her Orange Back

Timestamps: 08:25–09:26, 30:47–35:54

• Vicki’s Return: The hosts spill that Vicki’s reinstatement on Real Housewives of Orange County (RHOC) was a secret kept even from the closest friends.
  • Teddi: "Vicki got her orange back. That was quite a moment, right." (08:25)
  • Tamra: "Everyone was so happy for her." (08:27)
  • Tamra: "You could have knocked her over. Like she had no, like my engagement. I had no idea, you know." (32:14)
• Teddi describes championing Vicki’s return for season 20, reminiscing about the show’s early, less “dark” days.
  • Teddi: "I want to go back to the early days of Orange County where, you know, Vicki was peeing on my bed and we're running through Mexico..." (08:42)
• Vicki’s Slow-Mo Fall: After getting her orange back, Vicki face-plants during a recording, still protecting her freshly-operated-on chest and her orange prop.
  • “She landed protecting her orange. ...She was holding her orange. ...These titties. I’m gonna hold my orange. I don’t want to make orange juice right here.” —Teddi (35:07)
  • Tamra: "Why did she get her boobs done four days before BravoCon?" (37:34)
• The hosts detail the behind-the-scenes medical drama—Vicki recently had surgery, and Bravo’s Dr. Terry Dubrow was on hand to check her out.

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5. BravoCon Drama and Housewife Gossip

Timestamps: 15:23–20:23, 38:11–44:11

• Sheena Shay “Psychotic Break” Feud:
  • Sheena claims Teddi is acting erratically; Teddi denies it, says she was being sarcastic with a “love you” in passing.
  • Teddi: "Do you not understand sarcasm or social cues? And I'm not having a psychotic break. I'm actually good." (16:16)
• Beverly Hills Break-Ins:
  • Kathy Hilton and Sutton Stracke’s homes targeted by burglars while they were at BravoCon. The hosts discuss security and the dangers of being so publicly scheduled.
• Sutton’s Missing Kitten: Amusing side story about a missing cat at the hotel, found hiding behind furniture.
• Chanel Ayan’s Kitten Dress: Hilarious explanation of Chanel from Dubai wearing a dress with a giant kitten head as an inside joke referencing another housewife’s now-public sexuality.
  • “She was amazing...She puts herself down because she comes...from a village...She had to kill her own chickens for food. And look where she is now.” —Tamra (20:55)
• Stacy from Potomac and the “Thirsty” Housewife Moment:
  • Teddi owns up to shading Stacy as the “thirstiest housewife,” albeit based purely on a split-second decision.

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6. Neighborhood Rumors: Teresa, Joe, and Melissa’s Reconciliation

Timestamps: 22:41–25:45

• Discussion of the recent reconciliation between Teresa Giudice and brother Joe Gorga, and his wife Melissa. The hosts argue the reconciliation is real, not staged, and commend them for handling it off-camera.
  • Tamra: "It is definitely real. Joe missed his sister, and I'm sure she missed her brother… I was in their life long before this all existed. And I do know they love each other a lot." (23:43)
  • Teddi: "I'm glad they did it off camera...If they are both back together, it would look like they're doing it on camera. Just to do it." (25:12)
  • Conversation turns to how the show became too focused on family drama.

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7. DMs, Shade, and Social Media Feuds

Timestamps: 38:11–40:11

• Madison LeCroy vs. Sai De Silva: Madison leaks alleged DMs with Sai, sparking social media drama. Hosts frown upon posting private messages publicly.
  • Tamra: "You'll never, never see me do that. First of all, I won't argue with someone in writing. I'm not." (38:36)
  • Teddi: "You're smart. I'm learning that." (38:44)
• Shep Rose Caught on Camera: Video surfaces of Shep Rose calling Craig and Paige’s relationship a “sham,” with Tamra cautioning that “people record everything now.” (40:26)

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8. Airport Shenanigans and Federal Attention

Timestamps: 41:05–41:53

• Porsha Williams Incident: FBI investigates after an on-flight altercation involving Porsha, based on allegations she was verbally assaulted by a fellow passenger.

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9. New Franchise: Real Housewives of Rhode Island

Timestamps: 41:54–44:11

• Tamra introduces listeners to the “raw” cast of Rhode Island, highlighting her friend Liz McGraw (“the cannabis queen”) as a likely breakout star.
  • Tamra: “These girls are absolutely themselves…reminded me of Jersey before things got crazy.” (42:30)
  • Teddi: "Liz is the cannabis queen. Another cannabis queen. I'm so glad that I pioneer..." (43:36)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Vicki's return:

  • "She held onto her orange and the next day she took it with her wherever she went. ...Like a trophy." —Teddi (33:41)

• On social media feuds:

  • "First of all, I won't argue with someone in writing. ...I'm not doing it." —Tamra (38:36)

• On the realities of reality TV:

  • "I want to go back to the early days of Orange County...I feel like our show is a little too dark." —Teddi (08:42)

• On Teresa and Joe's reconciliation:

  • "How do you take something slow when you’ve been in each other’s lives for so long? ...They need to make up for a lot of lost time. And I know that they truly do love each other." —Tamra (25:45)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:35: Hosts discuss their post-BravoCon illnesses
• 05:37: Favorite BravoCon cast encounters
• 08:25: Vicki gets her orange back—RHOC nostalgia
• 15:23: Sheena Shay feud and BravoCon saracasm
• 16:59: Break-ins at the Hiltons' and Sutton's homes
• 20:34: Chanel Ayan’s kitten dress—backstory
• 22:41: Teresa, Joe, and Melissa’s family reconciliation
• 30:47: Vicki's dramatic slow-mo fall and medical scare
• 38:11: Madison vs. Sai: Leaked DMs and etiquette
• 40:26: Shep Rose’s “sham” relationship comments caught on tape
• 41:05: Porsha Williams incident with FBI
• 42:30: RHODE ISLAND Housewives preview

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Tone and Takeaways

The hosts’ banter is witty, self-deprecating, and mix deep Bravo knowledge with irreverence. They balance genuine behind-the-scenes insights ("everyone wants the early days back," “these girls are absolutely themselves”) with good-natured shade and playful confessionals. BravoCon stories flow into broader observations about the evolution (and occasional excesses) of housewives culture and reality TV drama.

Fans tuning in for Bravo insider gossip, real friendship, and quick-witted hot takes will not be disappointed.
If you missed BravoCon—or just want the real scoop—you’ll get the unvarnished, hilarious highlights in this episode.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself and Dolores. We are back from Covidcon. I mean, Bravo Con, and so many of us are sick. I feel like death. I actually thought I was just losing my voice on Saturday or, Yeah, I think it was Saturday, but it ended up to be like, a whole thing. Now Eddie's sick. I know. Kaden's sick. And I heard you woke up not feeling so good.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I was. My throat's killing me. But I did in the group chat, I said, I really hope I get something. I need a reason to stay in bed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

And Paul feels like he got hit by a truck, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, it's a lot of. It's a lot of work. And I think for us, especially, because in between doing BravoCon, the breaks that we had, we go and do the podcast, which was so much fun, and I think it was just going, going, going, and then there's so many people there. Someone's touching you, and so funny. I had so many people in my photo op say, I listened to the podcast. I won't put my sweaty armpit on you.

[Tamara Judge]

Ah, it's so fun. You know, a lot of people really love this podcast. They go crazy for.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. I had so many people. So many. It's more like talking about the podcast than they actually talk about Housewives.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, yeah, I, I, it's funny. Well, they can't talk about us on Housewives because I haven't been on in a while.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Except for I will be coming on.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So what day did you get home? We ended on Sunday.

[Tamara Judge]

I got home last night.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I got, we drove home. So we got in last night as well. Or not last night. Like 2 o', clock, something like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Not a lot of drama at this one.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not too much drama. There was a little bit of drama. And we'll get into that. But who was your favorite Bravo Lab that you met for the first time. Was there any Bronwyn? Bronwyn. She's lovely.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. So nice. So went out of her way to be nice to the guests that I were with. You know, I brought the fashionable couple along with me and she went out of her way to take pictures with them and couldn't have been any. Any nicer.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel like everybody was really nice. Nobody gave me any bad impression. I was afraid know Dr. Contessa from married to Medicine. Oh, my God, what a bod she has. Like, she was a fitness competitor as well. And she's just so sweet. So nice. Was telling me how much she loves Vena and I said, give me your address, I'll send you some. No, nope, nope. I'm going to support you. I'm going to buy it. And I go, I'll send you some for free. And she's like, no, no. And then I met K from Potomac, which was. She was on the podcast. So beautiful. Absolutely beautiful and sweet and Tia and was from the newbies on Potomac. They were so nice. And then I saw that there was all this stuff going around that sai was not nice. And I have to tell you, she was so kind to me. So sweet, so fashionable. She just has the best fashion ever.

[Tamara Judge]

She always does. She's known for. That's what she's known for. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So they're getting. I think they're getting ready to film in the next couple months, so that's exciting. We don't know who the full cast is, but nobody gave you any bad impression.

[Tamara Judge]

No, not at all. And I was worried because, you know, sometimes we talk a little shit on here. But Bronwyn did say, you know, Dolores, sometimes I forget what she said, but it wasn't like, bad. I'm like, I only talk about what I see. Bronwyn.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I know that when I was in the suv, we get put into the. These little. Not even suv, it's like a shuttle, and we go to different events together. So I was in one with.

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And she says, we were going to like. You were going to, like, the Shade Room or whatever it was called, the girls that talk shit, basically watch what happens live. And she says, okay, Tamara, we're not talking about my husband, right? Not talking about that. I said, of course not. I love him. I'm like, oh, I must have said something on there.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we said he wasn't nice to her at first, but then he grew on us.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I told her, I said, I. I go, I Like him, I go, I just have a feeling he's not really into filming. And she agreed. And that sometimes comes off as, you know, don't want to be there, mean kind of attitude. But yeah, but everybody was super, super nice. Now Vicki got her orange back. That was quite a moment, right.

[Tamara Judge]

Everyone was so happy for her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now I have been talking to Vicki for a while now and I kept, I've been rallying for her to come back and I had talked to her about it and she goes, no, I haven't heard anything.

[Tamara Judge]

You thought she was coming back?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no, no, I didn't know. I kept saying, I said at the reunion as well that it's season 20. Like it should be like old times. Like out of respect, I felt like Vicki should come back and personal reasons too. I want to go back to the early days of Orange county where, you know, Vicki was peeing on my bed and we're running through Mexico, running to Andalay's, dancing on the bars. I want that back. I feel like our show is a little too dark.

[Tamara Judge]

Everyone wants that back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And everyone, you know, there's always a gang up and all these things and, you know, I don't know that's what I want. Let's see what happens.

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Now, Sheena Shay had a lot to say about me and she said that I was on the verge of a psychotic break. That on stage I was shady to her, but in the elevator I whispered to her, I love you. Did you?

[Tamara Judge]

I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, see, what happened was, is, you know, Sheena's had a lot to say about me and, and accused me of doing things I didn't do with the podcast and going out there and saying things and so we don't have the best friendship. I don't hate her by any means. And so we were. I hadn't seen her the entire time and I was walking from the elevator and she was. Her door opened up and I saw her and she was just giving me like the death stare. She was just like staring at me and I go, love you like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my contacts.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So it's like, do you not understand sarcasm or social cues? And I'm not having a psychotic break. I'm actually good But I was just being a little, you know, like, love you too. Because she was just like staring just with this look on her face. Now Brock was extremely nice. I saw him a few times without her and he was always, he's always very sweet. Yeah. Did you heard like a lot happened when people got home. Like are on their way home. So we had. Kathy Hilton and Sutton both got burglarized Saturday while they were away at Bravocon. Which is crazy. You know, it's in la. There's these people going around breaking into house that's been going on for a while.

[Tamara Judge]

When they know that we're not there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. When they know your way Now Kathy Hilton supposedly they tried to. What I've read. I don't know if this is accurate but I read that they didn't get anything because I think they were scared away. I think that the husband was home. Law enforcement sources tell TMZ. Around 2pm Saturday, Sutton's dog walker called 911 and said the kitchen window was broken. Cops came and took a police report. We don't know if anything was taken. I did hear, and I don't know if this is true again that purses and jewelry were stolen from Suttons. Yeah. And on Saturday night, rick Hilton called 911 and said there was three burglars inside his home.

[Tamara Judge]

Cops came, scary.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But the burglars escaped. So I mean, jeez, I'll tell you.

[Tamara Judge]

What scared our burglars away was our loud, our very, very loud alarm, like screaming at them. But if they break in when you're not home, your alarm's not on when you're home. And as I know in this being with my background in any and everything, if, if somebody breaks in and they know your home, that's called a home invasion. And they're going to hurt you like that. They're not in there to say, hi, I'm just going to take a water and be on my way. No, they know you're tying you up and well, the least of what they do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. I mean I couldn't imagine being in your own home and seeing people in there like that's got to be the worst, the scariest feeling in the entire world.

[Tamara Judge]

Well that. Didn't that happen to Dory?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it happened to read in a big way with guns and all kinds of stuff.

[Tamara Judge]

So that was scary. Well, my advice to everybody, unless it was stolen, don't put it in the report.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, a little shade there.

[Tamara Judge]

Not at all. A little words of wisdom because you will get caught. But we're targets. We're all targets. They know when we're not going to be home. They know that, you know, we're in and out. Bravo cons a big deal. People talk about it if these burglars watch housewives too. Burglars are fans, too. They know when we're not around. So my suggestion to housewives, if you're not home, if you have a big event coming up, have someone stay in your house that you trust.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah. And that's why I could imagine that Kathy Hilton has staff. I mean, she's got that feeling.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't believe somebody even got in, actually.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. I feel like.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, Sutton, too. How about Sutton's cat got lost. She brought her kitten with her. What? I was on my way to glam and Sutton's squad comes out and they're like, did you see a kitten? I'm like, what? And they couldn't find it. So I was like, I don't understand. I'm going all over. But why would they leave a little kitten in a room alone? The kitten sitter was sleeping.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But how does it get. It can't get out of the room.

[Tamara Judge]

You don't know. But. So I've been on Animal. Like, people have lost their dogs, and I'm part of somebody who will get in the car and go look. And the first thing, like the real dog tracker or the real lost dog animal prison says look in the house first. The kitten went up behind the dresser and hid behind the dresser.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, poor baby. Yeah. Did you happen. Speaking of cats, did you happen to see Chanel Ion's black dress with the big kitten head on it?

[Tamara Judge]

I think. Do you know why she had the kitten head?

[Dolores]

Why?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, well, she had that custom made in Dubai before she came. And she said it was because she was looking for Portia and she wanted her to pat the puss because she knows she likes pussy now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She did not say that, did she, dad? So she's funny. She's hilarious.

[Tamara Judge]

She has a job in this being. She was amazing. She's never done that before. She was. She was interviewing people on the red carpet dressed to the nines. I've seen people at the Grammys interviewing people that haven't been dressed as well as her. And every outfit was tens and thousands of dollars. She looked stunning. And she's very smart. She puts herself down because she comes. Look. Look at where this girl comes from. She didn't have shoes. She lived in, you know, a village. She had to steal food. She had to kill her own chickens for food. And look where she is now. I mean, this girl. So she's insecure about not having a formal education, but if I needed advice, I'm calling Chanel. I am. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And she did interviews from that blue carpet. And she also was at every night there was a Watch what Happens live or the Bravos. And she was interviewing there as well and just dressed so beautifully. So I have a funny story. People pay to take pictures, and there's this big tent, and there's just, like, a backdrop, and then different talent is in different spots. Well, she was in spot.

[Tamara Judge]

There's different lines.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

So that she was in the spot next to me, and I was with. Okay, so I was in line with Katie, and Chanel was next to me. And Chanel came over, and we're getting ready to take pics, and she got into, like, with us as a group. I go, no, no, sweetie, you have to go over there. And she didn't understand what I saw. She didn't understand what I was saying. But I'm like. And then I went to the red carpet, blue carpet, and she said to me, you shaded me and you. I go, no, no, you don't understand. There was people that paid just to get pictures with you. And there was.

[Tamara Judge]

She understood.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And I go, but you were in our line. So the line that you had, there was nobody there to take pictures with. They wanted you. They didn't want me, you know? And she's like, oh, I didn't understand. So she was cute about it. But Teresa claps back at rumors that reconciliation with Joe and Melissa is fake. A lot of people were saying that. While speaking with Page Six, virtual reality host, Teresa shared that Joe knows her so well and would be able to see through her if she wasn't being honest and genuine and his wife as well. So it goes on to say, my brother especially knows I hold grudges, so if I let this go, it's real. And I think Melissa, she's been in my life for 22 years. She knows me really well, too. She added. Some critics pointed out that the timing of reconciliation seems convenient. However, Theresa insisted that that's definitely not the case. Now, whatever the case is, I'm all for families.

[Tamara Judge]

You want me to talk about black Italian?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, you tell me.

[Tamara Judge]

So let me tell you. It is definitely real. Joe missed his sister, and I'm sure she missed her brother. They are very much. I think that they do want a reconciliation, and I think people feel like it's over the top so fast, so quick. I don't care. I don't care how it's done. I'm so happy it's done. My thing is, and I can speak for them as well. We don't want a whole show based around them to fighting or getting along. There's a lot of different. And that's what I said on my panel. There's been whatever people reaching out to me. Oh, you said I want to see them together. I've advocated for them always. I was in their life long before this all existed. And I do know they love each other a lot. But the thing is like I now that I'm watching all the Housewives the way I am because of tutes, I realized that the mistake I think that was made was it was just focused on their family life. I have three sisters and a brother who I am so close with. When's the last time you even saw my dad on camera who lives with me part time? You know, I just think that. And they don't want it. Teresa has always said I've never had a fun time on this show. It's always been about me and my life.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean. And nobody knows who's coming back at all. I think it was better that they did it off camera because if they are both back together, it would look like they're doing it on camera. Just to do it on camera. I'm glad they did it off camera.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen, I don't like. Right. And you're right. And I'm glad they did it off camera. And it is, it is sincere. And I'm sure that they're like, oh, we're taking it slow. Doesn't look that slow to me. But however they want to do it, however it works, how do you take.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's kind of their business.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah, it's their business. How do you take something slow when you've been in each other's lives for so long? Like, let's just listen. There's a lot of time that's been lost and they need to make up for a lot of loss time. And I know that they truly do love each other.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

There was a lot of talk, the same situation with me and Vicky and even me being accused by some, like on the reunion from some of my castmates saying that, oh, it's convenient that you're friendly with Vicki now. And I'm like, me and Vicki have been good for 20 years. We've had some bumps in the road and I've never done anything to her. And it was what, about a year or so ago, two years ago, where she basically just took Shannon's side and she was upset that I quit the Trace Amigas now. It was, I knew that it was nothing that we couldn't overcome. We still have a couple things we need to talk about that you know, we haven't talked about yet.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you even have to talk about it? Can you just like let it go if you're just. Yeah, that's what I do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah. There one thing that bothered me that had to do with my daughter. That's the only thing, but that's the only thing that really bothered me. But we started talking when Teddy got sick, you know, and. And then as soon as the whole talk about season 20 came up and I said, regardless, if I am close with Vicki, are not close with Vicki. And out of respect, I felt like Vicki should come back for season 20. She started this Show. So that's where I came from. And then, you know, we started talking more. Then we got a brand deal together. Vicki had no idea, no idea that she was going to come back. None. I've been talking to her days before.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh no, that was clear. Listen, it was very obvious. You could have knocked her over. Like she had no, like my engagement. I had no idea, you know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, they kept it under wraps.

[Tamara Judge]

Like surprise.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She told me, she's like, I asked her, I go, you going to come back? She's like, nobody's reaching out to me. So you know, I don't think so. I haven't heard.

[Tamara Judge]

And I go, when's the last time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She was on as a full time? It's been quite a while. It's probably been three or four years. She's come back and done a few cameos. But you know, Vicky, in order for her to do Vicky, she needs her orange. She wants full time. It's very hard blame her. Yeah. And that's what she wanted. So very happy about that. Now I was actually in the bathroom and me and Teddy had to go to the bathroom so bad during the bravas and they said, no, no, you got to sit down. I go, we have to go to the bathroom. We have to. They go, okay, okay. So they followed us the bathroom. They're like, get in your seat, get in your seat. We need you in your seat. And I'm like, what is going on? He's like, there's gonna be a camera on you, so we need you on your seat. And I go, okay. So I got in my seat and then that came out and then it was like, oh, I get it now. And it was just such an exciting moment. She's been on cloud nine now. Vicki, funny story. She held onto her orange and the next day she took it with her wherever she went. So we did.

[Tamara Judge]

I saw that. We're like, is she actually carrying that orange around with her?

[Dolores]

Oh yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No one's like a trophy. Yeah. So she, me, Vicki and Heather did that slow motion room where you do the walks and the turtles and all that stuff. It hasn't, they haven't posted yet. I'm like, where's ours? Everybody's got posted immediately. Ours has not been posted yet on the Broadway.

[Tamara Judge]

Not everybody's. I'm sure, I'm sure they're like doing it spurts. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did it get posted?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, it's uh huh.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. No, but I think they're probably just doing it in like ways.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

They don't want to do it all. They can't do it all at once, but they want to keep it going.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So we all. We. The three of us did it and we were all done. And Vicki had to do her solo one. And do you remember there was a camera that was on a track, like a railroad track.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And it went back and forth and it was. Was a trip hazard. And they kept saying, watch your, you know, watch your step. Watch your step. So Vicky, I know she goes to walk off. Both of her shoes get caught underneath the truck.

[Tamara Judge]

And that's how she fell.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she went toes under, face planted the ground.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. Didn't even die.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Her arms were like, to her side. She didn't even have her arms to break her. Her fall fell just face planted.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh. But we. Can we say what else?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she just had surgery.

[Tamara Judge]

She just had her boobs done four days ago.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And landed protecting her orange.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And she. She was. She was holding her orange. That's.

[Tamara Judge]

She.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

These titties. I'm gonna hold my orange. I don't want to make orange juice right here.

[Tamara Judge]

I heard the ambulance was called, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I didn't hear the ambulance was called, but Terri was there in Vicki fashion. She has a dress on. She starts pulling up her dress. And Terri was there, thank God. And she's like, I don't know what's wrong and all this stuff. And he's like, you're gonna be okay. Just relax. Just sit down. And told her if there was swelling that were to happen, then that could be an issue. That means internal bleeding and all that stuff. But she told me today she's going in for an ultrasound, but she hurt her. Her ankle and her hand when she fell.

[Tamara Judge]

First of all, they could not have been any more clear. Be careful.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, but they were literally.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. They don't know Vicki. So the crew that was there was so like, watch your step, watch your step. A million yes, yes times. I know they're going to probably feel like they're in trouble.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Horrible. They got a medic there. Terry was there talking with her. There was a doctor in the house. And. And she's. She's like, take me. I'm gonna go in the bathroom. Terry, go with me. He's like, I can't just go in the bathroom with you. There needs to be another girl. Like, he was like, so protective of everything. But I think she's fine. She's a little banged up, but that's Vicki. That's. Vicki falls all the time. And not like this fake fall, like Somebody else does.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know you know who I'm talking about.

[Tamara Judge]

I've seen it. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's not a shtick. This is Vicki. And it's so funny because Billy, her brother, was there, who I absolutely love.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I thought that was her boyfriend. Am I there with.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Her boyfriend was there, too, but her brother Billy was there, and I've always loved Billy. So I remember saying to Billy, billy, the band's back together.

[Dolores]

And he.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And he goes, and I'm back, too.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's ready for his. His cameo on the Housewives.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that's so nice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But Billy starts yelling, becky. Becky. Becky, get up, Becky.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, no.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She was not moving. She was face planted. And she was probably there for about a minute, just on the ground, not being able to move because, you know if you have your boobs down, you can't move your arms. And she had. She had an issue with Constellation. Yeah, it was funny. I know, I know, but it was. I'm like, where are the cameras now?

[Tamara Judge]

Why did she get her boobs done? Four days before BravoCon?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think it was, like. It was still very close, but I think it was, like, six days before Bravo Con. But she had just had her drains taken out. I had just had, like, that morning.

[Tamara Judge]

She had the drains out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. The day before she left. And I told her, I go, vicki, it's not a good idea. I don't think you should go. I mean, I think you should put your push off your surgery. I can't. I'm too busy. I'm working. I go, okay, just be careful.

[Tamara Judge]

We all do that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I thought I'd be, like, cleaning her drains out because I've done that at a reunion before. Vicki had surgery, and I had to go in between breaks at the reunion and. And dump her drains out of blood and fluid.

[Tamara Judge]

God. She does not plan her surgeries.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she does not. Okay, so moving on. Madison from Southern Charm leaked Psy dm. So they got into it a little bit, and she leaked the dm. You know me now, bitch about the Bravo Con feud. You remember me now, bitch? How do you feel about people leaking DMS like that?

[Tamara Judge]

You'll never, never see me do that. First of all, I won't argue with someone in writing. I won't. I'm not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You're smart.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not doing it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm learning that.

[Tamara Judge]

No, not doing it. So how do I feel about that? I wouldn't do it at all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, let's see what actually happened. Madison took to her Instagram story with screenshots of her DMs with Psych, who claimed once again that she doesn't know Madison. Oh, so that's how it started. Not everybody knows everybody though.

[Tamara Judge]

That's true.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right? So let's see. Madison took Instagram story with a screenshot of her DMs with Psy, who claim once again she know who Madison was. Listen girl, leave me alone. Leave me alone. Cy wrote. I don't know you and I don't remember sitting next to you two years ago. Madison clapped back. Well, you remember me now, bitch. I wow. I still couldn't pick up.

[Tamara Judge]

I wouldn't say that to size face.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I wouldn't either. I still couldn't pick you out of a lineup, Cy replied. You're extremely unmemorable. The tension became the tension began Sunday when Madison appeared at the Unexpected Duos panel during a game Madison called outside as the meanest girl I've ever met. I would have to say Psy was so lovely to me. I said it earlier. Just so sweet, so nice. So I don't know what's going on there, but it wasn't long before Psy clapped back. You must have me confused. Not all brown girls look alike, she wrote. I never met her before.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, I'm sorry that, that, you know that all that happened because it's actual. They should get an award. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So then Shep Rose was caught on video calling out Craig and Paige. He was sitting at the hotel bar.

[Tamara Judge]

At the bar to be careful.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. At four season she Shep can be seen on camera telling a group that Craig and Paige's Craig and Paige made millions on their relationship and it was all a sham. She and Craig made millions on reality TV back then she broke up with him on a podcast. Do you understand how up that is? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you or ignoring the hand that feeds you basically. So Shep said that. So Shep was being a little shady and you have to be careful because you know, people record.

[Tamara Judge]

But what kind of people be so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What kind of shady shitty person records then sends it to a blog?

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of shitty people.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So Portia Williams lands on FBI's radar after incident on a Delta flight on the way home from Bravicon.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm dying to know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. A spokesperson for FBI Atlanta tells tmz. FBI Atlanta was is aware of an incident on a Delta flight on November 16th alleged involving Porsha Williams and or at least one other person. We are looking to see whether any federal Charges may be applied. Oh, my God. Her lawyer, Joe said, tells TMZ, Ms. Williams was verbally assaulted by an irate and unhinged passenger without provocation. The passenger then proceeded to make false allegations. So we don't know what's going on. Nobody's been charged. It sounds like there was a fight, kind of like what happened on Salt Lake City.

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of fights.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. The Real Housewives of Rhode Island Cast revealed and first look trailer. The cast. Dolores, can you tell us a little bit about each housewife? I want to know which one is.

[Tamara Judge]

Your good friend Liz McGraw.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Have you guys had a DNA test?

[Tamara Judge]

Can you imagine? It's uncanny. How should we look alike?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You guys look so alike, it's crazy. So there's Alicia, Rosie, Ashley, Liz, Rula. Is that how you pronounce that? Kelsey and Jo Ellen. And of course, you will be joining the cast. People are very excited about this.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm very excited. I need you to know that these girls are not going to try to emulate other housewives. They are themselves, and I love it. It's raw. They're not afraid of bloggers. They don't know much about bloggers. They. They are not, like, got big all over social media. I'm sure they're getting it now. But this first season, these girls are absolutely themselves. And it reminded me of Jersey before things got crazy. It's like, you know how you were talking about the Traders the other day and they said. And you were like, well, you know, it was the first season. You don't really get to know the game until things move on. Right. These girls don't know everything yet. So they were just all out, 100% themselves. Alicia Carmody is funny. She's pizza mama. They own a bunch of pizza places. She's very sweet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who do you think the breakout star is going to be?

[Tamara Judge]

Liz McGraw.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Liz. What's her. What's her story? Talk about her. Then we'll move on to Potomac.

[Tamara Judge]

Liz. Liz is the cannabis queen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Another cannabis queen. I. I'm so glad that I pioneer.

[Tamara Judge]

They are the pioneer.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

Pioneered it beginning number one. She is the realest person you'll ever meet. That's who. Liz is a very good friend to me. Somebody on the cast tried to say I said something that I absolutely did not because I don't repeat things. See, they don't know me yet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, they don't know that.

[Tamara Judge]

So they tried. Liz knows me. And Liz said, not her style. My friend didn't say that. Took her mic off, came to see me and told me what was that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So, okay, so you have it there. Now. I did Shade Shana Shay a little bit. And I also shaded Stacy from Potomac because I was put on the spot. They want to know who the thirstiest housewife was. And she was sitting right there across from me.

[Tamara Judge]

She was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Stacy was, Yep, she was in the Shade Assassin, whatever it was called, much like Heather did from Salt Lake City. I leaned over and they said, who? What was the question? I can't remember. It was a question about who do you think is going to tell a lie? And I leaned over and her and I locked eyes, which I regret now. And she goes, tamara. And afterwards I go, why'd you say my name? And she goes, because, you know, I just look. We looked at each other and I thought, ah, Tamara can take it. So Stacy had shaded Kyle Richards, who I love. And so earlier in the episode. So when they asked me who was the thirstiest and I said Stacy. And the crowd booed because they love her, but all I can think about was her pain. TJ or whatever his name is and, but she's lovely. And I told her, I'm sorry, I just saw you. And I thought about that. Then I, then I took it back and said, it's actually Sheena, but she's not a housewife. But there you guys have it. Bravocon was so much fun. Thank you. Bravo so much for all that you do for us housewives and talent. We had so much fun and I'm glad it's every other year.

[Tamara Judge]

Thanks for coming everyone.

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[Tamara Judge]

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