QVC Training 101 (RHOP Recap)

Summary

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Episode Overview

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: QVC Training 101 (RHOP Recap)
Date: November 25, 2025

In this lively episode, Teddi (Dolores) and Tamra reunite to break down the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Potomac (Season 10, Episode 8). They kick off with Bravo and Housewives headlines, weighing in on recent legal drama, family turmoil, and cast changes, before moving into a meticulous, scene-by-scene recap of RHOP. The duo delivers their signature blend of humor, candor, and personal insight as they analyze Housewives behavior, highlight standout moments from Potomac, and debate the art of dodging questions—QVC-style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: BravoCon Aftermath and Personal Updates

• Both hosts are still recovering from BravoCon—Tamra notes feeling run down and losing five pounds, while Dolores shares that her husband, Eddie, is still sick post-event. (03:51)
• Dolores describes a cozy holiday scene in Big Bear: “It’s so beautiful up here during the holidays, with the village all lit up with Christmas trees.” (04:44)

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2. Headlines: Legal Drama & Housewife Headlines (05:28–15:18)

• Dr. Wendy in the Headlines
  Dolores: "So Dr. Wendy's back in headlines again. They're saying they had 40 credit cards and aliases. That's a big deal." (05:28)
  Both express concern and disbelief over the allegations and discuss the importance of due process and skepticism regarding media reports.

• Mia Thornton’s Arrest
  Tamra jokes: "You're gonna learn all the legal terms from the amount of housewives getting arrested." (08:36)
  They speculate humorously about Mia’s alleged $11,000 larceny involving furniture.

• Meghan King Custody Loss
  Dolores: “Meghan King loses custody...to ex Jim Edmonds after child protective services calls...her family is devastated.” (10:20)
  Empathy for Meghan, discussion of the challenges of public family drama, and the emotional toll on children.

• Kandi Burruss and Todd Tucker Split
  Dolores admires Kandi’s privacy and poise: “I think Kandi is a class act. I don’t think she’s going to open her mouth.” (12:58)

• Jen Shah’s Early Prison Release
  Discussion on Jen’s possible return to RHOSLC.
  Tamra: “You don’t bring back Monica, but you’ll bring back Jen Shah? Come on.” (13:56)

• Jenna Lyons Leaving RHONY
  Dolores: “Once a housewife, always a housewife...maybe a cameo would be nice.” (14:12)
  They reminisce about the cast and discuss who should (or shouldn't) be brought back.

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3. RHOP Recap: Season 10, Episode 8 (20:18–45:12)

Pride Event & Ashley’s Sexuality

• Tamra is surprised about Ashley’s bisexuality: “Wait, but no, I didn’t know that Ashley dipped in the lady pond.” (20:50)
• Both appreciate Ashley’s candidness and highlight the support she received from her grandmother at a young age: “She came out to her grandmother...and she was fine with it. I love that for her.” (21:18)

Monique’s Return and Openness

• The duo praises Monique’s transparency about her marriage:
  • “Her happy marriage was an image she held up for the show.” (22:47)
  • “When a woman’s done, she is done.” (23:14)
• They discuss the differences between Potomac and other franchises in depicting marital relationships on screen.

Bobby & Angel: Relationship Dynamics

• Dolores likes Bobby's relaxed presence: “He is lovely. Most guys don’t want to have cameras on them...he’s very comfortable.” (24:41)
• They note the ongoing "catfish" drama and advise Angel to focus less on outside opinions.

Giselle’s Podcast Milestone

• Giselle’s “Reasonably Shady” podcast hits 10 million downloads.
  • Tamra: “Now that is a reason to throw a party...I’m hoping next season me and Teddy can have an 80 million download party.” (26:21)

Robin’s Absence & Integrity

• Both respect Robin for “standing on her principles” and not appearing without a full-time role:
  • “She doesn't want to be...on the couch. She has some pride.” (27:28)
  • “She’s a good person. If she was on your show, she would be enough for you.” (27:31)

Stacy’s Storylines: Evasions, Questions, and QVC Training

• The hosts analyze Stacy’s inability to answer questions directly, likening it to “QVC training 101”—sidestepping direct answers for rhetorical distancing:
  • Dolores: “She never ever answers a question with an answer...Is this QVC training?” (31:21)
  • Tamra: “There's a really much easier way of life. Just be upfront...it’s hard to tell the truth, but she’s entertaining.” (32:05)
• Tia’s skepticism grows, and the group dynamic shifts as the women begin to confront Stacy’s shifting stories.

Confrontations & Housewife Moves

• Wendy’s tactical phone call: “Wendy pulls a great housewife move and calls Stacy...she never saw it coming.” (34:31)
• The group discusses the pitfalls of Stacey’s evasions, repeating that on Housewives, things always come out.
• Dolores: “This episode’s definitely proven that the other girls are right about Stacy. The girl isn’t able to keep her story straight...although it makes for good TV.” (35:24)

The Reasonably Shady Party—The Blowup

• Robin skips the party; hosts defend her decision:
  • “She’s like, nope...this girl stands on her principles, she does not play.” (40:58)
• Stacy tries to have a private conversation but is quickly surrounded by the group, leading to a “pile-on” confrontation:
  • “All the women join in...it made Stacy look like a victim when she wasn’t.” (41:20)
  • Tamra: “Coming over and ganging up on one person like that made me really feel like bullies at school.” (42:45)
• Memorable zinger: When accused of not being trustworthy, Stacey says to another housewife, “You don’t have a husband.” (42:06)
• Dolores and Tamra debate the ethics of group confrontations and lament production choices that enhanced the sense of “bullying.”

Final Thoughts on Stacy

• Both note that while Stacy is entertaining, her inability to answer questions is glaring for both cast and viewers:
  • Dolores: “She didn’t answer one question. No one question.” (44:22)
  • Tamra: “They're handling it all wrong. One girl sitting in front of her—answer my question. Nope, you didn’t answer it yet.” (44:56)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Bravo rumors:
  Tamra: “There’s so many speculations, so many lies, so many of these fake accounts...I don’t even know if, like, all the dog videos are AI.” (07:35)

• On housewife legal drama:
  Dolores: “You’re going to learn all the legal terms from the amount of housewives getting arrested.” (08:36)

• On Ashley’s openness:
  Tamra: “She came out to her grandmother and she said she had a crush on a girl and the grandmother was fine with it. I love that for her. I really love that for her.” (21:18)

• On QVC-style evasion:
  Tamra: “Is this QVC training? ...they don’t ask questions on QVC, you just explain things.” (31:55)

• On group confrontation:
  Tamra: “Coming over and ganging up on one person like that made me really feel like bullies at school.” (42:45)

• On holding Stacy accountable:
  Dolores: “These girls can’t even hold her feet to the fire. She’s got six or seven girls (against her) and even (they couldn’t) hold her feet to the fire.” (44:50)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• BravoCon recovery and holiday chat: 03:36–05:28
• Bravo legal headlines and marriage news: 05:28–15:18
• RHOP Recap begins: 20:18
  • Pride event & Ashley’s sexuality: 20:50–21:53
  • Monique marriage revelations: 22:44–24:27
  • Bobby & Angel’s partnership: 24:40–25:58
  • Giselle's podcast milestone: 25:58–26:35
  • Robin’s integrity and absence: 26:35–27:42
  • Stacy’s evasions and group skepticism: 29:56–35:55
  • Confrontation at Reasonably Shady party: 40:38–44:22
  • Aftermath and lessons learned: 44:22–45:12

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Conclusion

Dolores: "It was a great episode. I really enjoyed it...until next week, guys, can’t wait to see what happens." (45:12)

Fans of Housewives drama, behind-the-scenes insight, and sharp-tongued banter will find plenty to love in this episode. Teddi and Tamra leave listeners with much to chew on—about fame, truth-telling, and the art of housewifery, both on and off camera.

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[Tamara T]

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[Dolores]

Two T's in a pod with Teddy.

[Host or Narrator]

Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Dolores]

Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Today we're going to be recapping Potomac. Before we do that, we're going to do a little headlines. Dolores, have you fully recovered from Bravocon?

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Dolores]

You haven't?

[Tamara T]

No, I am not. Okay. I am.

[Dolores]

Did you get sick after Bravocon?

[Tamara T]

I got like a sore throat for a little bit, but my body's very run down. I lost five pounds.

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[Dolores]

Oh.

[Tamara T]

You know, Be a lot for you. Not for me. But I lost weight. I came home, I'm like, oh, God, I ate junk all weekend. I must have it lost weight, but I'm like. My body feels like I got hit by a truck.

[Dolores]

Yeah, I bet that's how I felt. Eddie's still super sick. He's been coughing like crazy non stop. Not like him to be sick this long after Bravo Con.

[Tamara T]

Keep an eye on him. You know, we're not getting any younger.

[Dolores]

When he gets sick.

[Tamara T]

It's kind of.

[Dolores]

He doesn't like doctors and all that stuff. So we are in Big Bear right now. We came out is the first snowfall of the season.

[Tamara T]

I saw it so it's just a.

[Dolores]

Couple days of snowing. It was just nice to see it. A nice change. It's so beautiful up here during the holidays with the village all lit up with Christmas trees.

[Tamara T]

Now I know why, you know?

[Dolores]

Yeah. Kind of like a little Hallmark movie. It really came down the Village.

[Tamara T]

So we're.

[Dolores]

We're gonna leave today. We got to go home. I have Thanksgiving at my house with the kids and. And my mom's coming into town. So I gotta. You know, I haven't even shopped for Thanksgiving yet. I'm gonna do it tomorrow.

[Tamara T]

Order online.

[Dolores]

I know, I know, I know.

[Tamara T]

Just do it. Don't go to the stores like a cuckoo. No one.

[Dolores]

Go to Costco like a zoo, man.

[Tamara T]

Forget it. Forget it. I'm not doing that.

[Dolores]

So let's get into headlines. So Dr. Wendy's back in headlines again. So they're saying that they had 40 credit cards and aliases. That's a big deal.

[Tamara T]

I've been looking. I'm looking at things differently now. I'm looking at how she dresses. I'm looking at.

[Dolores]

So am I. It's hard for me to watch a show now. You have 40 credit cards and debit cards, some of which are believed to be in a company's name. They also supposedly use the alias Pam Oliver and Eddie Hennessy. Like, if this is all true. Like, I'm all for innocent until proven guilty if this is all true. I'm, like, freaking out because why would you come on a reality show and do this?

[Tamara T]

What I think is, though, Tamara, I sent it to Paul, read it, and he's like, but this says it's not true. This. The statement from the attorney said that this is all not true. So I want something on that.

[Dolores]

We do have the statement, but the FBI don't. They don't mess around when there's a federal. Like, it took them 18 months to, you know, dive in deep on this.

[Tamara T]

I know, but listen, let's be careful.

[Dolores]

No, I know, I know. I mean, they're allegedly. This has happened, but there was a joint statement from their team, their legal team, and they basically said that they failed to properly investigate the initial burglary despite clear indications of a break in. So they're. They're saying that, you know what, they didn't do this properly. So can we get them off on a technicality? Is kind of how I read it. So I think that more is going to come out soon. I feel bad for them if this is absolutely.

[Tamara T]

I gave them a lot of credit. They showed up to Bravo Con.

[Dolores]

Yeah, I didn't see them at Bravo Con. I didn't, didn't.

[Tamara T]

I did, but then there was stuff about. Then they might get divorced. All this stuff. Listen, there's so many. Here's the problem.

[Dolores]

Speculations.

[Tamara T]

And there's so many speculations, so many lies, so many of these fake accounts putting stuff out. Somebody had a picture of a sonogram saying I was pregnant. Another one just put something out about Frank Catania. Last week. There was no truth to it at all. So that's why, like, I don't know what I'm reading anymore. I don't even know if, like, all the dog videos are. AI. I get.

[Dolores]

Like, I know. Well, this was put in the Baltimore Banner, so it wasn't necessarily a Bravo account. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't a blogger that did this. And this was an actual real.

[Tamara T]

I know.

[Dolores]

News.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, it was a credible, credible source.

[Dolores]

And it's like you just don't want to believe it. And then we're moving on now where there's this former real house of Potomac star Mia Thornton was arrested in Atlanta and charged with Lars larceny. I thought that was fire.

[Tamara T]

See, it's so funny. You're going to learn all the legal terms from the amount of housewives getting arrested.

[Dolores]

So it's getting crazy.

[Tamara T]

Since we've been doing this, you've questioned like, you've thought different things. You're learning a lot. You're really learning a lot. And yeah, $11,000. So what do you steal $11,000 worth of furniture?

[Dolores]

Do you go in the middle of the night.

[Tamara T]

You did the midnight run. Like, you move into a furnished condo and then you call the moving storage company and you take the furniture that didn't belong to you. Then what? Like, I mean, come on, guys.

[Dolores]

Did she get, like, did they reach out to her and said, hey, this is a furnished, you know, rental. Rented my, my furniture back. And she's like, no, sue me. Like, how did this come about? It's crazy.

[Tamara T]

What makes people think they could take things that aren't theirs? I would.

[Dolores]

I don't get it at all.

[Tamara T]

I have a conscience that, like, I think that I'm more afraid of. I'm a God fearing woman and I am not going to do something. I do enough. Okay. I don't need to actually add to it. So no, I'm not going to take something that's not mine. And by the way, I don't get away with anything. I get blamed for shit. I didn't.

[Dolores]

Oh, hello. Have you met me?

[Tamara T]

Yeah, I have.

[Dolores]

And I am, I am the same way.

[Tamara T]

Like, we're friends for a reason.

[Dolores]

I don't break laws. Like, I'm like, no, I'm like parent. I've always been like that. Like, no matter where I'm at, Like, if I'm. You're not supposed to go in that room. I am not going in that room.

[Tamara T]

1. I don't break the rule that I've.

[Dolores]

Always Been like that.

[Tamara T]

My. Listen, my dad was. Was a cop. If I crossed the street wrong, it got back to him. Now I'm not doing that.

[Dolores]

So this, this next story really breaks my heart.

[Tamara T]

This is horrible.

[Dolores]

I mean it's just. Meghan King loses custody. Temporary custody of her kids to ex Jim Edmonds after child Protective services calls. They called child protective server like that's the school did. The school is the one that called the Child Protective Services. So Megan was in an active lawsuit with her ex husband. And then on top of this, Megan was granted supervised visitation while Edmonds was sole physical custody per the source. The decision is temporary and a hearing will be held. I did text with her. She did not want to talk. She is so devastated. Her family is devastated. It's just to have your children taken away from you by a third party, it's. I couldn't even imagine, you know, let.

[Tamara T]

Me tell you something. Those kids looked very well cared for, very well kept. I don't know Megan. I don't know.

[Dolores]

I've always known her as a good mom and a good person. And she's got an amazing family. And I always look at the mom and dad have been married forever. She's close, close with her brothers and her sister and her dad's an attorney. Like it's just I would die on.

[Tamara T]

The floor be dead.

[Dolores]

She is.

[Tamara T]

That's how she happen to innocent moms. And then I've seen mothers who deserve to lose their kids and don't I.

[Dolores]

Know which is crazy. Well, her poor children have to be totally confused because from what I heard from Megan, like he now lives in Tennessee or something. He's in Nashville, so. And she's in Missouri. So that means her kids are far away away. If that's. If he's still in Tennessee. The kids are very confused. They don't fully understand, you know, things.

[Tamara T]

They're young. They're young.

[Dolores]

Oh, they're really young. So I just hope everything gets back to normal before the holidays for her.

[Tamara T]

Come on, guys. Please stop.

[Dolores]

Another really I know everybody pray for. And another sad story is Candy Burris and Todd Tucker split after 11 years. Now, there was a lot of chatter on social media about it and they denied it or they maybe even didn't even address it in the past. In the past couple of months. But Candy waited until after Bravo Con. And there was an announcement. After deep thought and a lot of prayer, I've made the decision to move forward with a divorce. This is difficult, emotional time. But my focus remains on protecting my peace, being the best mother I can and co parenting with love and respect.

[Tamara T]

Okay, so do we know why did.

[Dolores]

No, no. I think Candy is a class act. I don't think she's going to open her mouth. I don't think she's going to give away family, you know, stories. So sad. It's sad. I hate to see any family break up.

[Tamara T]

Her mom gave him such a hard time.

[Dolores]

Well, I'm like his mama. Joy's happy now. Jen Shaw early prison release date revealed that is just crazy. So she is getting out before the holidays. December 10th is when she leaves prison. She serves 33 months after multiple sentence reductions for good behavior. She is now going to be released. So. Well, do you think that she should return to Salt Lake City? I know that Andy has been very vocal and said that no, he won't have her back on. I don't think she will. But let's see if she actually returns in some capacity. There's going to be a sit down. There's going. Gonna be something done.

[Tamara T]

You know, you don't bring back Monica, but you'll bring back Jen Shaw. Come on.

[Dolores]

I don't know. I don't know. Jenna Lyons announces departure from Real Housewives of New York. And we'll definitely miss her, that's for sure. But once a housewife, always a housewife.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, maybe I saw a side wrote. Maybe a cameo would be nice.

[Dolores]

Yeah, I saw that. Did she respond? Did you respond?

[Tamara T]

Here, let me see. Hold on one second. No. Bravo. Andy, though, underneath was very upset. He put a little cry emoji. Aaron, Leechy put love you. Oh, it's sad. You know, I hate to see that.

[Dolores]

So the cast so far is very Aaron Sai. And who else?

[Tamara T]

Aaron Sai. Jessel.

[Dolores]

Jessel, that's right. So they're going to be casting around those three.

[Tamara T]

Okay, let's see what you bring.

[Dolores]

I still think you should bring back.

[Tamara T]

And Sonia.

[Dolores]

But Andy said no, ain't gonna happen.

[Tamara T]

I don't understand. They were TV gold. Oh, my God. And still I enjoy them so much. I'll be with Sonia next week. We do a Q A. We'll be in Washington D.C. and then New Hampshire. So she's, she's funny, she's fun. She stopped drinking. Said she hasn't drank since June.

[Dolores]

Oh, really?

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[Dolores]

Bring your A game and talk to your doctor. Learn [e-mail] or call 1-888-240-0340. Okay, so we're gonna move on to Real House of Potomac Season 10 Episode 8 Now We're we are back at the Pride event. We're at the Pride event we have there. What are your thoughts about this Pride event? Actually calling out Stacy's brand, having a Nigerian name.

[Tamara T]

Wait, but no, I didn't know that. Ashley. Ashley dipped in the lady pond.

[Host or Narrator]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara T]

How come I didn't know that?

[Dolores]

I don't know. I think she came out last year and talked about it.

[Tamara T]

A lot.

[Dolores]

A lot of her conversation is very sexual in the past couple years. And I think it since she got divorced and is finding herself more and I think didn't that. Isn't that what they did, her and her husband, when they were married? Well, no, she was around threesomes. They had threesomes?

[Tamara T]

Yeah. So I would always felt bad for her that, that she. I felt like that was something she did for him, but more like it was more for her. Girl, all the power to you. But she did say, what I loved most about this was her grandmother accepted her at 11 years old. She came out to her grandmother and she said she had a crush on a girl and the grandmother was fine with it. And I love that for her. I really love that for her. So, Ashley, one thing I will tell you about Ashley, always very nice. Always, always a sweetheart when you see her. She's honest.

[Dolores]

She is honest. And that's what we like in a housewife now. Kay. She did her best effort trying to get Stacy and Monique to fight about this whole Chris dating situation. He didn't give a about it.

[Tamara T]

I know.

[Dolores]

I love her. I love her.

[Tamara T]

Very pretty.

[Dolores]

She's gorgeous. You know, she's a ex fitness competitor too.

[Tamara T]

Oh, she is? Yeah.

[Dolores]

She's got a rocking body.

[Tamara T]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

But she did not care. She's like, I'm divorced from him. I don't care who he's dating. Do I think he's not gonna date somebody two years later? Like, come on, when you're done with someone, you're done.

[Tamara T]

Yeah. However, as long as it's not like your friend. She's not friends with Stacy. She doesn't care.

[Dolores]

Yeah. But just. We'll get to Stacy. Oh, so after the parade, the girls go to lunch and we get Monique update.

[Tamara T]

I.

[Dolores]

She just. Why was she ever gone?

[Tamara T]

I don't know. Good. She's so good. She's so pretty. She's housewife material. And she's basically saying her happy marriage was an image she held up for the show.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara T]

And she really got into how degrading she felt as his wife.

[Dolores]

Well, did you hear her talk about the final straw? Oh, I like, it's like, you will never enter me again. All right then.

[Tamara T]

Okay. And listen, when a woman's done, she is done.

[Dolores]

This woman's done.

[Tamara T]

She was done. That's why she don't care who he's with. And. And quite honestly, she shouldn't care who he's with. When you're done with someone, what do you care? So you know Giselle calls back to a previous season when she said Chris would resent Monique becoming successful on her own. And, I mean, I can understand that, but maybe not. Maybe he doesn't care. Yeah.

[Dolores]

I don't know. What. I don't remember what their relationship was like way back then.

[Tamara T]

Well, you wouldn't see it, but she did say her marriage lasted longer than. Because she was on the show, and a lot of her, like, fighting and her anger was more focused to the show than her marriage.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Do you remember, did he film a lot back then, or was he kind of stayed out in and out?

[Tamara T]

I mean, nobody films as much as. Even, like, on your show. The guys don't film as much as they do in New Jersey. New Jersey, the guys are such an intricate part of the show. So, you know, I don't think anybody really picked up on what was going on behind closed doors or how she really felt about him.

[Dolores]

Well, she seems absolutely fine without him.

[Tamara T]

Oh, she's doing just fine. Even better.

[Dolores]

She's too pretty for him. I'm sorry. I'm gonna say it. Yes. Now we go house hunting with angel and Bobby. I really like Bobby. Like, for.

[Tamara T]

He's lovely.

[Dolores]

He is lovely. Just for. Most guys don't get involved. Most guys don't want to even have cameras on them. And he is very comfortable around the camera. He talks to his. You know, Angel's like, this is a great place for stalls. Sit. We can sit down. I can download you, you know, on the girls and what's going on. And he's like, bring it on.

[Tamara T]

He. He listens to her.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara T]

He's very supportive to her when she doesn't feel good about herself. He makes her. He, like, builds her up. Listen, this is what we're seeing, though, Tamara. Yeah. Go back to the conversation we just had. What goes on behind closed doors?

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara T]

No one ever knows what we see. But I can tell you, for this girl to be still so upset about this catfish comment from Giselle is getting on my nerves a little.

[Dolores]

Let me ask you a question.

[Tamara T]

Stop.

[Dolores]

Why is she more mad at Wendy than Giselle? Isn't Giselle the one that brought it up? Make that make sense.

[Tamara T]

I don't know. I don't know. But she needs to drop it real quick because maybe. Because what? This housewife world, we don't like stupid shit getting dragged on. We don't even like big shit getting dragged on. Yeah. So this needs to. You wanted my end. This here. And I'm sure even though your husband's being nice about. If I was him, I'd be sick of hearing it by now.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara T]

Hear about what he thinks of you, not what these girls think of you. You don't like them that much.

[Dolores]

Yeah. So this is exciting. Giselle tells Tia Kyana Ashley at lunch that her podcast, reasonably shady, hit 10 million downloads. Now that is a reason to throw a party. I'm hoping, like, next season, me and Teddy can have a 80 million download party. 75 million.

[Tamara T]

That's amazing. I thought about that when they showed it. So, you know, Kiana lets them know, well, it's a reason to throw a party. But wait, are we getting to the fact that Robin wasn't there yet? Was Robin not at the party?

[Dolores]

Robin didn't want to film, I think. Robin who? I have to tell you, I love Robin. I interviewed her at BravoCon. So lovely, so fun.

[Tamara T]

She's amazing.

[Dolores]

She is amazing. Like, I'm like, I want to hang out with her all the time.

[Tamara T]

I'll tell you why. She is no joke woman. She will tell you even if you're friends with her, Tamara. She'll tell you right to your face. I don't know why she's not on anymore.

[Dolores]

Well, she doesn't. Since she got fired. She ain't coming back without a full time role. And she. I pretty much. Giselle said it like, I wanted Robin here, but what went down last year, she doesn't really want to film. And I totally understand that.

[Tamara T]

I give her credit. She's not folding, but the girls were kind of, like, dissing her. They're like, oh, what, she didn't want to get off the couch?

[Dolores]

I didn't like that.

[Tamara T]

I think she has some pride.

[Dolores]

Yeah, she has some pride.

[Tamara T]

She doesn't want to be very principled. Principled person. I would trust her. She's trustworthy and she's a good friend. If she was on your show, she would be enough for you.

[Dolores]

Yeah, no, I adore her and I don't blame her. Yeah. So Wendy and Monique are both shocked. They're actually sitting down together for a meal. So Wendy feels Monique and telling her Giselle is now her friend and that Karen thanked every housewife but Wendy at the reunion.

[Tamara T]

I remember that Wendy almost fell off the couch. She's like, oh, okay.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara T]

Why was that, though?

[Dolores]

I don't know. I don't know why Karen didn't thank her. I mean, she pretty much singled her out as somebody she wasn't thankful for. So I don't know. Well, we're gonna find out, though. She thought she was Karen's gonna be filming, I'm sure for the next season. So we will find out.

[Tamara T]

She got a standing ovation. Bravo. Con.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. There was mixed feelings about that. Now Cookie comes up in conversation and we see Cookie later on and she's a force to reckon with, that's for sure.

[Tamara T]

I want to talk about that.

[Dolores]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Tamara T]

I don't want to mess with her.

[Dolores]

Cookies involved, it seems like, in everyone's business.

[Tamara T]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

Don't you think?

[Tamara T]

I do. I do. Yep.

[Dolores]

Will Candace and Monique ever bury the hatchet, do you think?

[Tamara T]

No, No, I don't think. I know. I don't see.

[Dolores]

Well. And it ain't gonna happen.

[Tamara T]

Candace is not gonna do it. Never. I don't see. That is.

[Dolores]

And I miss Candace on this show. But hey, look, look.

[Tamara T]

We thought other people would never make up too. They said never. Never.

[Dolores]

Well, that's the thing in this industry. You just never know what's going to happen. So who knows? And if it comes to, hey, you have to come back, but you have to make up with this person. Some people will do it just for the sake of being on tv. And other people have more pride.

[Tamara T]

They're like, nah, like Robin. Robin is a principled person. She's. Let me tell you. But don't think that if you said something to Robin and she would call you out if you said you didn't say it.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Oh, for sure. So over at swim practice, we have Stacy and her ex husband.

[Tamara T]

That's not awkward to you?

[Dolores]

It was a very awkward.

[Tamara T]

He looked very Stacey not having an. Like I. There was something about it, Tamara, that made me feel like, is she paying him too?

[Dolores]

That's how I felt too. There was like a lack of chemistry. And I never can. I never know if it's possibly the guy just doesn't want to film because a lot of men don't want to film.

[Tamara T]

We have to give the benefit of the doubt.

[Dolores]

Yes. Yes. And we.

[Tamara T]

To do we like to say benefit of the doubt.

[Dolores]

Yep. But he's not really ready to meet the other woman. That's for sure. And the inconsistencies in Stacy's stories, like, I can understand why the girls are annoyed with her because her story changes all the time.

[Tamara T]

Well, she spoke for him. Timo said wouldn't be going instead of just saying right there, I don't want to meet the girls. I don't really like what's going on. I'm not ready to meet them. Yeah. And you know, they. They started saying, well, he'll be back tomorrow. He's leaving next week, then he's leaving tomorrow. Well, just be up.

[Dolores]

Honest. Geez. Tia's bullshit meter is going off. It is going off. She's not believing one ounce of this.

[Tamara T]

No, but then to say. And why did Tia say she Woke up at 5:30 in the morning to go see them? Do they live far away?

[Dolores]

I don't know.

[Tamara T]

Did you hear her say that?

[Dolores]

I think a lot of these sports things are probably like, it was probably 8 in the morning or something there, so she probably had to get up early. But I. But honestly, the more we get to know Stacy on the show, the more I'm seeing Stacy Never ever answers a question with an answer. It's almost with a question. You know what I mean? Like, you ask her a question and she throws it back at you and it's a question for you and it's not an answer. I mean, it's like politician training 101. Is this QVC training?

[Tamara T]

Well, listen. No, no, because they don't ask questions on qvc. You just explain things.

[Dolores]

Well, who taught her this? Because it's not an easy thing to do.

[Tamara T]

It's not. And it's constant. It's every. I mean, listen, we all do that sometimes. Tamara, all of us. I mean, it's a way of life. But I don't know why she does it in almost every conversation. Now, Stacy, there's a really much easier way of life. Just be upfront. I don't care. It's hard to tell the truth, but she's entertaining.

[Dolores]

I'm going to give her that. She's entertaining. She's a fan favorite. But if as a human being, she doesn't answer any questions, I mean, here's the thing.

[Tamara T]

I think she's a fan favorite because people are mean to her and they all gang up on her. And lately the fans have been siding with the person that's ganged up on.

[Dolores]

They always do that. It's been like that for years. Stacy says she'll introduce Timo to the group when Giselle introduces her man. And Tia says, so we're waiting for pigs to fly.

[Tamara T]

So I was surprised how Tia did really turn on Stacy, though she went for it.

[Dolores]

I think she. Tia is sweet until she's not sweet. She's one of those girls, she's probably like me. Like, I'm nice to everyone, but you cross me, you lie to me. I will double down.

[Tamara T]

I will.

[Dolores]

I can't handle that. I hate. I hate. I would have a hard time filming with Stacy.

[Tamara T]

Yes, you would.

[Dolores]

I Would have a very difficult time with my personality.

[Tamara T]

I think all the girls are having a hard time.

[Dolores]

Well, I'm. Yeah, Giselle's having a hard time, and I think that she's censoring herself and trying to pull back a little bit from when, you know, not having her name on the robe and all the things that she's done in the past. I think now she's kind of like, just let her burn herself. Giselle's very smart. She gets it.

[Tamara T]

She's smart. She's an og. She's been around a long time. And she knows that eventually, if somebody will hang themselves and if you don't pick on them so much, then you actually. If you let them do it on their own, then they'll do it, and it doesn't put you at risk. I know you could start the ball rolling, but then let them finish it.

[Dolores]

So now we have a double date with Wendy and Tia and their spouses. Tia tells Wendy that Stacy said that Tia was the safest to introduce to Timo.

[Tamara T]

Talk about Wendy picking up the phone to call that shit right out of the way.

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[Dolores]

I mean, Wendy pulls a great housewife move and calls Stacy. That was so smart. I love this move. Like, it was just.

[Tamara T]

We're not playing Tamara. And it was totally Stacy. Never saw it coming. However, another time. This is now the second time Wendy's being called out for not being a good friend. It was the same when Karen said. Thanked everybody but her. Now Stacey saying, but Stacy only.

[Dolores]

I mean, Wendy says a lot of nice things about Stacy.

[Tamara T]

That's why. Once again, Wende's like, what the did I do? I'm gonna call her right now. So sometimes it's. Why is that, though? Why do people do that? That's now the second time. Why is someone doing that to Wendy when she was their friend?

[Dolores]

I don't know.

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[Tamara T]

And it's. And it's a shock to her. She's like, me like that.

[Dolores]

I know. I mean, this episode's definitely proven that the other girls are right about Stacy. The girl isn't able to keep her story straight. And although it makes for good TV and entertaining for the cast, it makes it very. It's frustrating to be around someone like that that just can't answer a question. Her story changes all the time. It's like, who are you? And now I'm really getting why Giselle leaned in at the very beginning of the season. Like, I don't know you. Who are you? I'm not putting your character flaw.

[Tamara T]

So it's not like Stacy. You're filming. Just tell the truth when you're filming. That's something she's going to have to learn to do. Because in life, yeah, Foreign.

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This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jewels. For the second season in a row, I partnered with T Mobile's Friday night 5G lights, powering up hometown football across America. This year, T mobile invested over $4 million in prizes to help schools take their Friday nights to the next level. The votes are in. And now it's time to crown our $1 million grand prize winner. Congratulations to Derrick's high school and Derrick's Arkansas, home of the outlaws and your 2020 5T mobile Friday night 5G lights champion. The Outlaws and their community rallied to help them score a game changing home field upgrade, a Gronk fitness weight room makeover, an epic 2026 tailgate party, and a VIP trip to the SEC championship game. To every school that competed posted and rallied your communities. Thank you and to T Mobile for making it all possible. This season may be over, but the story isn't. Stay tuned for season three in 2026. Congratulations again to Derek's high school outl.

[Dolores]

So we're at the party, the reasonably shady party and to congratulate and party for the 10 million downloads, which is absolutely amazing. But Robin sadly choses not to attend. I don't think. Like, do you think Robin should have went? I don't think. No, I don't.

[Tamara T]

No. She's like, now, I told you. This girl stands on her principles. She does not play.

[Dolores]

And that's a good person. Not reality person, just person. She's a good person.

[Tamara T]

She really is.

[Dolores]

Just morals. She's not. Yeah. Stacy tries to pull Wendy and Tia aside, but all the women join in.

[Tamara T]

Tia, I saw that. Like, I didn't love that. I honestly didn't. Because now Stacy's literally in a corner.

[Dolores]

Well, she held her own though. She did. I mean, Tia starts going after her, just calling her a liar. But Stacy was getting an all from every direction. She really was.

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[Dolores]

They gave it to her that's for sure. But she. I felt like she held her own.

[Tamara T]

I did not like it. I'm going to tell you right now.

[Dolores]

Gang up.

[Tamara T]

Yeah, they. They should not have entered that chat and they should have let them handle it on their own because it really made Stacy look like a victim when she wasn't.

[Dolores]

Well, she. She went right after K. After. She's saying, I wouldn't trust Stacy with my husband. She goes, you don't have a husband.

[Tamara T]

That's how it ended. But wait, what about the finger point? I thought she was gonna get her ass beat.

[Dolores]

I know. And she's not. She's like, I'm not gonna stop. I am not that.

[Tamara T]

Listen, the bouncer came and got her out of the way. The bouncer knew that was going to escalate real quick. They all their pants when she did it again.

[Dolores]

Well, do you think that Cookie getting involved as a looked a little thirsty?

[Tamara T]

It was wrong. All of it was wrong. I did not like. It made me uncomfortable. I didn't like where she was backed up literally in a corner and everybody was coming at her. I'm sorry. Not for me. I like that shit. We can't be there for that.

[Dolores]

I know, I know.

[Tamara T]

Whether it was all true or not, whether it was right, coming over and ganging up on one person like that made me really feel like bullies at school.

[Dolores]

Well, we got to see Wally from Love Hotel.

[Tamara T]

That was nice.

[Dolores]

Yeah. So he. Ashley doesn't really like him. Right? Was that the backstory? I didn't watch all of Love Hotel. Did you?

[Tamara T]

I. I didn't finish it. She said she had a good time. I spoke to her at Bravo. Conselle's funny. She's honest too though. Yeah, she might not be showing her boyfriend, but she's good. I like her. Giselle, I like.

[Dolores]

Oh, we didn't talk about this. Remember when Kiera steps in and calls Stacy out for telling Chris Samuels everything Monique said? Yeah, that was. That is crazy. If Stacy indeed called up Chris Samuels and said everything his ex wife was saying about him. That is not a girl. That's not a girl's girl.

[Tamara T]

Wrong. That is so wrong. After. She deserves that.

[Dolores]

Yeah, but she said like, oh, we're just an acquaintance where nothing happened. What you an acquaintance that you felt like you need to call up and talk shit about one of your cast members? Wrong move, Stacy. That is the worst move ever, Stacey.

[Tamara T]

And here I go again. And here's my point. Stacy would look so bad this season, this episode, had they not all ganged up on her, right?

[Dolores]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara T]

Stacey would be done. I would be done with her right now.

[Dolores]

We had.

[Tamara T]

I'm out.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Me and Teddy had Stacy on the podcast and she's very lovely, very beautiful.

[Tamara T]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

I mean, speaks so well. And. And then after we were done, me and Teddy looked each other and goes. She didn't answer one question. No. One question.

[Tamara T]

But why didn't you hold her to it?

[Dolores]

She has a way about her.

[Tamara T]

No, no, I asked you a question. Now answer me.

[Dolores]

I think Teddy did. She just skates around it.

[Tamara T]

Well, she can't then. Then you don't move on to the next question. Yeah, that's it. Hold her feet to the fire. Let's bring her on.

[Dolores]

These girls can't even hold her feet to the fire. She got six or seven girls here even hold their feet to fire.

[Tamara T]

Making them. They're making a mistake. One girl sitting in front of her. Answer my question. Nope, you didn't answer it yet. Now answer my question.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

[Tamara T]

Sorry, but they're handling it all wrong.

[Dolores]

It was. It was a great episode. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was really good. And until next week, guys, can't wait to see what happens. Thanks for tuning in to two Teas and a Pod with me and Dolores.

[Tamara T]

That was fun.

[Dolores]

That was so much fun.

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This is Bowen Yang from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers from the very same podcast. And guess what? It's the holiday season. And you know what that means. Holiday parties, Beau Holiday parties. They're the best. But there's always the stress of what to wear, what to bring. Easy solution. Okay, bring a bottle of Casamigos. Casamigos. Wow. That is the move you can make. Casamigos mules or Casamigos essentially Espresso martinis or Casamigos cram. And don't forget about Casamigos margaritas. A Casamigos margarita is the perfect cocktail all year round. Casamigos is just the perfect gift that keeps on giving. And as the saying goes, anything goes with my Casamigos. On second thought, a holiday party might be in order. That's a great idea. Please drink responsibly. Imported by Casamigos Spirits Company, White Plains, New York. Casamigos Tequila 40% alcohol by volume.

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