Rumor Has It (RHOSLC Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod: "Rumor Has It" (RHOSLC Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Episode: Rumor Has It (RHOSLC Recap)
Date: September 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge dive into the premiere of Season 6 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC). The duo—both Housewives alums themselves—share their candid, humorous, and sometimes brutally honest takes on the episode’s drama, cast dynamics, and production choices. They also touch on personal updates, answer fan questions, and discuss the ever-present rumors swirling around castmates.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Personal Updates: Tamra’s Breast Surgery Reveal

• Tamra opens up about her recent breast surgery after initially keeping it private (05:15).
  • She describes undergoing surgery for an "animation deformity" after removing implants years ago, now opting for much smaller high-profile “gummy bear” implants.
  • Tamra shares details of her recovery, praising her surgeon Dr. Molds for multiple procedures.
• Notable quote:

  "So there I did it. Don't say, like, oh, she got a boob job. She didn't tell anybody. Yes, I did and I told you. So there it is." — Tamra (10:51)

• Teddi jokes and reassures Tamra about how great she looks now:

  "Your titties look hot, Tam." — Teddi (10:49)

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RHOSLC Season 6 Premiere Recap

Praise for Production

• Both are impressed by the season’s “cinematic” style with voiceovers and “Blair Witch Project” vibes (16:52–17:38).
• Tamra:

  "The production on this show is so good. Like from the introduction to the first episode, to the voiceovers, to the found footage, like a horror film." (16:52)

Angie K. and the RV Adventure

• Angie K. gifts them her new tequila and hats, leading to friendly banter (03:56).
• The women discuss the logistics (and realism) of the cast's RV trip, poking fun at “luxurious” claims and quirky packing instructions: “bikinis, boots, and blessings” (19:03).
• Both question if the women really camped overnight or if it was more of a day trip (31:11, 51:21).

Cast Dynamics: Exclusions and Social Media Drama

• Lisa Barlow is absent from the trip, allegedly due to contract negotiations—creating speculation and making her the focus of much off-screen drama (20:13, 21:56).
• Heather Gay does a “great job” narrating ongoing disputes but the women note how Salt Lake City’s Housewives keep drama current rather than dredging up years-old issues (21:50–21:56).
• Lisa’s absence fuels conversation, with Teddi relating to being talked about despite not being present (21:56).

Standout Fashion Moments

• Angie’s confessional dress ($6,000 Oscar de la Renta) becomes a point of practicality vs. extravagance debate (22:10).
  • Tamra quips:

    "I need a six thousand dollar dress like I need a hole in the head." (22:21)

Brittany’s (Britney) “Try Hard” Energy

• Tamra and Teddi agree Brittany is over-trying to be TV-worthy, orchestrating toasts and inserting herself into drama—a possible ploy for a full-time “snowflake” role (26:06, 54:22).
  • "The only thing that I can say about Britney so far, the first episode, she seems like she's trying a little too hard." — Teddi (26:04)

Rumors and Lawsuits: The Juice of Housewives

• The topic of Lisa’s rumored lawsuits and financial issues gets dissected—“wrong analogy” jokes abounding as Angie compares Lisa’s situation to Jen Shah’s legal woes (31:21).
• The hosts agree the RHOSLC cast leaves nothing off limits, contrasting with other franchises (31:51).

Whitney’s Business Failure: An Honest Moment

• Whitney brings up her failed business, prompting genuine empathy and a discussion on the realities of entrepreneurship and failure on reality TV (43:47, 45:10).
  • "I just love the fact that she was open and honest and said, I failed." — Teddi (45:18)
• The conversation pivots to the pressure of performing for TV and being honest about the highs and lows.

The Blair Witch Prank & Camcorders

• Brittany’s stunt giving everyone camcorders (a reference to her recording last season) gets mixed reviews—amusing, but feels producer-driven (29:32).

Jen Shah: Will She Return?

• Both think Jen Shah will eventually return after serving her sentence and joke about the Housewife jail pipeline (24:27).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Lisa’s “sisterly” relationship with Brittany:

  "Calm your tits down, girl." — Teddi (27:44)

• On Whitney’s failed business:

  "We all talk about our wins, but not our failures." — Tamra (45:50)

• On casting:

  "Would you rather see Monica or Jen Shah back?" — Tamra (55:38)
  "Probably Monica." — Both (55:44)

• On Housewives dynamics:

  "I don't like when cast members decide somebody needs to go and they ice them out." — Teddy (56:14)

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Segments & Timestamps

• Tamra’s Surgery Reveal: 05:15–11:27
• Salt Lake City Premiere Impressions: 16:52–20:13
• RV Trip and Angie K’s Tequila: 03:56, 17:44, 19:03
• Lisa Barlow Absent & Rumor Mill: 20:13, 21:56, 31:21
• Brittany’s Try-Hard Antics & Toasts: 26:04, 37:15, 54:22
• Business Failures and Honesty: 43:47, 45:10
• Cast Fashion and Planning: 22:10, 23:08
• Blair Witch Prank & Camcorders: 29:32, 51:16
• Fan Questions Segment: 53:02, 54:22
• Who Should Return: Monica or Jen Shah?: 55:38
• Housewife “Icing Out” Practice: 56:14
• Vicki Gunvalson as Guest/Housewife Discussion: 59:21–61:47

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Listener Q&A Highlights

• Should people watch RHOSLC? Both: “It’s one of the best franchises.” (53:12)
• Is Brittany trying too hard for a snowflake? “I don’t know if it’s about getting a snowflake, but she’s definitely trying to do more than she should.” — Teddi (54:31)
• Is RHOSLC possible without Lisa Barlow? Most agree she’s central for drama (55:04)
• Who would they rather see back: Monica or Jen Shah? Both prefer Monica (55:44)
• Vicki Gunvalson in the “twat seat”? Hosts are open and suggest a pod swap (59:21)

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Final Thoughts

• Teddi and Tamra love the drama and high production value of RHOSLC’s new season, calling it one of the franchise’s strongest.
• They appreciate cast honesty around business failures, and poke fun at over-the-top attempts by certain cast members to stand out.
• There’s genuine excitement for the rest of the season, speculating on cast returns, new battles, and who will really “show up” for the group.
• Both hosts keep their trademark irreverence and candidness, with plenty of insider observations and comic banter.

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Episode Summary by your podcast recap expert — keeping you primed on all things Housewives, even if you missed the show!

Transcript

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Two T's in a pod with Teddy.

[Tamara and Teddy Joint]

Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Foreign.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi, guys.

[Tamara Judge]

Welcome to another episode of two Te's in a pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp, and Tamara Judge.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What an exciting night. City is back. Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

Of course, we have to say thank.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You to Angie K. Oh, I was gonna say to bravo to Angie K.

[Tamara Judge]

To all of our listeners.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Angie K. Sent us her beautiful. This bottle is beautiful. It came in, like, the most beautiful box package, too. Yes. With a bow. And they came to the doorstep, and Eddie brought it. He's like, there's a big box view downstairs, and it's her new tequila. And I don't know how to pronounce it.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know how to pronounce it either, but I think it's codeigo code.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, code 1530. It's a rose blanco. It has a little snowflake on the front of it.

[Tamara Judge]

So cute bottle.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We have her hats on right now. And I. I did see that this caused a little bit of a rift between her and Lisa.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You think Lisa has a tequila company as well, right?

[Tamara Judge]

Mm.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But this is very cool. I've never had rose tequila.

[Tamara Judge]

I haven't either. Maybe we should start drinking it right this second. No. Maybe we should now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't, because mine isn't even. I get to work out. I didn't get to work out today. So I'm going to get to the gym after this, and I can't go with the shots of tequila. I can tell you my day would.

[Tamara Judge]

Be over if I did a shot at tequila right now. Are you?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

I'd be worse off than Brittany with her ding, ding. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I have an announcement.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, by the way, I do, I do have an announcement to make. What you know about it. But the general public does not know about it. But they are starting to figure it out.

[Tamara Judge]

You're finally gonna talk about it. I was wondering.

[Tamara and Teddy Joint]

So.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I had surgery on July 14th and I wasn't really gonna say anything, but one of my producers kind of outed me on my confessional. I don't know if it's gonna air or not. So I thought that I should just come forward and let you know what I have done. So I have had my 100th breast surgery. So I did it for a couple reasons. Now I text my doctor, Dr. Donny Molds, and asked him if he can explain because I had what was called a animation deformity. And so I did it because I couldn't wear low cut shirts because I had a line, a crease that went through both sides of my boobs. So it started to look like I had two boobs on each side, if that makes sense. Like a double boobs. Who doesn't want a double bubble on each side? Now, I didn't have implants. I had my implants removed five years ago. And I'll get into the reason for that, but. So I text my doctor and said, I'm gonna talk about it. Can you just let me know, like the, you know, the medical terms and all this. I don't want to screw this up. But he says it's. I had a. Okay. He says this is what you can say. It's a normal part of the original surgery. Your. My pec muscle detached from my, my chest and was up towards my shoulder. So it did it. But I'll tell you, it didn't hurt. But this is something that happens sometimes when you have, you know, the kind of breast implants. I had one, like partially under the muscle. When my implant was removed, I had multiple implants removed. The. The muscle, which is still attached to the skin, was creating a pull or what you can call a animation deformity. This can happen in active women. Like I bench chest, I do a lot of chest exercises and it was starting to get worse. The treatment that I had was to sew the muscle back to my chest. Then carefully. Yes, I did it, guys. I put a 150cc implant to give me a little bit of.

[Tamara Judge]

You can't say implant like it was just one. You got two implants.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I vowed never to do implants again again. Now these are new implants because I had. Had Mine originally removed five years ago.

[Tamara Judge]

After those in Andy's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes, yes. Because I felt like I was getting breast implant illness. I was having autoimmune issues and all kinds of things.

[Tamara Judge]

I had.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I was on. I still am on it, but thyroid Hashimoto's. And I don't know if it was a placebo effect or my mind or whatever, but I took them out and I felt like I was so much better and. And then I think it was just a lot of stress that I was dealing with. It was around the time I was getting fired and, you know, I got fired and all that stuff. But totally different implant. These are a high profile, like gummy bear ones. Yeah. So totally different. So I said, okay, I'll try it. He originally, he's like, you know, I'll put 250. And I said, okay, good luck. And he's like, oh, my God, because your rib cage is so narrow. He goes, I started 250, then I went to 200. Then I went to 1 5175. Because I ended up with 150. Which are. He's like, I've never put that small of implants in anybody.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that's what size mine are.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, very, very small. Just perky. A little bit perkiness on top. They are not under my muscle. They are on top of my muscle. They look beautiful.

[Tamara Judge]

Beautiful production tell. Because they could tell I had a.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Low cut dress on in my next confessional look. And my. And I'm doing a group confessional with Sophia and we're talking about plastic surgery now. They added Sophia last minute. I already had my dress that I was gonna wear and it's very low cut. And I'm like, okay, I'm just, you know, gonna be like this or, you know, because I didn't tell her. I did not tell her. And the. Yeah. The producer goes, so what do you think about your mom's new? And she's like, what? What? And I didn't know what to say. I'm like, oh. I just. I felt so flat chested. I just kind of felt like a boy. And then, then that sparked. Oh, really, Mom? Because she's pretty flat chested. Like, I don't know. I was like, got all flustered because I could. I couldn't go into these great details about what really was the issue. But I am glad I had it done. I think they look beautiful. They're not.

[Tamara Judge]

They look really good. They look really good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, they're full. I can wear low cut shirts now. It makes me want to wear low cut shirts. I don't have this gaping hole. Before. If I flexed my. Because the muscle is up here, my boobs would go to the right. I mean, right and the left. Like they would go to the.

[Tamara Judge]

Now you're making me flex my boobs.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I could flex it all I want and they don't go anywhere, so.

[Tamara Judge]

Mind you, I just saw them in the camera.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If you go back and look at pictures of wherever I had a lower cut dress on you, you'll be able to see it. I was very self conscious about it, but I thought, whatever. And then finally I'm like, I had, you know, I've lost weight and so I'm like, it just looks worse. It looked like the part of it was just like kind of hanging. So I'm like, let's just do this.

[Tamara Judge]

Your titties look hot, Tam. Thank you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So there I did it. Don't say, like, oh, she got a boob job. She didn't tell anybody. Yes, I did and I told you. So there it is. Thank you, Dr. Molds. He's the same one that did my forehead lift. Oh, and he's the same one that did my, you know, the blue peel on my face and the CO2 laser and, and reconstructive surgery on my stomach, you know, because I had that emergency surgery on my stomach. He's like, not. Pain is easy on you. 5 hours he had to put mesh in my, you know, chest and sew back everything. And I. Two months of pain. Two months. It was a. It was kind of a big ordeal.

[Tamara Judge]

But now you're good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm good. Until I take them out again.

[Tamara Judge]

Until you decide that you've got breast implant illness again and you decide to take it out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

All right, well, getting into Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We are on episode one. It was so good. The production on this show is so good. Like from the introduction to the first episode, to the voiceovers, to the found footage, like, like a horror film.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, so some people like it and some people feel like it's too, like, staged or too scripted for reality tv. Yeah, I don't. I don't mind it at all. I think that their music is good. Their music is great. The camera work is great. Yeah, I mean, they had a whole Blair Witch Project going on there.

[Tamara Judge]

And I mean, whoever's idea was to do this in an rv, an RV trip with these ladies, like right off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The bat, like, here comes Angie And I'm like, I want to know if Angie really camps in that rv. Now, when you see her on horse shows, does she roll up in that rv and it's like, hey, Teddy, come in here. Let's make asparagus over the bonfire.

[Tamara Judge]

We're not normally cooking when we're in our campers at the horse show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Does she bring her camper?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay. So she does use it. I figured that's why they probably.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that's why she has it for the horse shows. I mean, I don't know if that's why she has it, but she has it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I mean, that's got to be like a 40 foot plus RV.

[Tamara Judge]

I couldn't believe she was driving it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I could. I would never do that ever. Eddie always drives. We haven't camped in a while, but we usually try to get a big RV to camp with because you always want to have, like, in the group, one big one when we go dirt bike riding, because then everybody goes into that one and you can play games and kids can run around and all.

[Tamara Judge]

That stuff, no matter how big it was. I would have appreciated knowing how they slept.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And next time, latch the damn refrigerator. There is a latch on those refrigerators so the chip doesn't fall out.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Angie picks up Mary and her IV and Angie told the girls it was going to be a luxurious vacation, but they are all really sleeping in the rv. The invite said, bikinis, boots, and blessings.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why bikinis? Why boots?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, boots, Because, I mean, snow boots.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I thought it would look like cowboy boots or something like bikinis.

[Tamara Judge]

I would have been ticked if I came with a bunch of stuff, thinking I was going somewhere warm and I had not enough warm clothes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I have a question. Would you have worn your bikini under your outfit?

[Tamara Judge]

Obviously, I would do everything that Brittany does.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, you wouldn't.

[Tamara Judge]

She could push me right over the edge. Why did she have her bikini on?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

She's just gonna rip off her. Her fur.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then between the bikini and Mary looking at Angie like, why are you dressed like that?

[Tamara Judge]

I know. She's like, why are you going like you're to a business meeting?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She is. It was kind of like a safari business meeting. She had like, yeah, she was cargo trousers on.

[Tamara Judge]

But she starts off driving because, you know, she's got to show us that she can drive. But then once they get to pick up the rest of the group. I was shocked. I was shocked that we didn't see Lisa.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. Well, there was rumors now, okay. Sheena, this is what's called rumors that she was negotiating her contract. Contract.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she had not fully negotiated it. And that's why. I don't know if it's true. But that's what this is, what it's called. That's what the gram was saying at the time.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So that could easily be true or untrue.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now, what do you think about Heather Gay kind of narrating the five ongoing disputes within the group? She does a good job.

[Tamara Judge]

She does do a good job. Did you see that Heather Gay's comment the other day about. On Lisa's post?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. I don't have my phone next to me.

[Tamara Judge]

But yeah, like, it wasn't Lisa's. It was on Meredith's post. So Meredith is like doing a thing about what she's learned in her years of being a housewife. And she's like, you know, this and that and blah, blah, blah. It doesn't even really matter what she said.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But heather gay response 100%.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know, those girls do it well. Like, they will go after each other on social media. Like, if that happens on our show, it's like, how could you do that?

[Tamara Judge]

That'd be half a season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. I love the show. Like, they just go at it and then they figure it out and they.

[Tamara Judge]

Go at it again.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And they don't talk about from five years ago, two years ago, 15 years ago. Like, they are, they're. They're just. They know these girls know the assignment. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

They really do. And also, even the fact that Lisa Barlow wasn't on this trip, but her presence was still known.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Girl. That's all they talked about with Lisa the entire time. I feel her pain. I feel like that's a whole season of Orange county right now. Even if I'm not there, they're talking about me.

[Tamara Judge]

They're gonna give it a little talking to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can we talk about Angie's confessional dress?

[Tamara Judge]

The purple one with a big giant bow? I thought I liked it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Oscar de la Renta.

[Tamara Judge]

Of course.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was six thousand dollars.

[Tamara Judge]

I need a six thousand dollar dress. Like I need a hole in the head. I just have the holes in the heads.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I am. Julissa. We don't. You don't need more holes in your head. I am just too practical to spend $6,000 on a dress. I just am. Like, I. Could I afford it?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do I want to do it? No.

[Tamara Judge]

Do I want someone to loan it to me? Yes. Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If somebody wants to loan it to me, I'll Wear it. But even then I feel like such a poser. Like wearing something that I didn't buy. I don't know why, but yeah. I mean, some of these girls spend a lot of money on clothes. Now I am just too cheap. I'm gonna throw that out there. I don't care. I don't care.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm too cheap. And I. My planning skills are so shit these days. I can't even imagine pre planning something so dramatical in my looks.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, you got to start planning your Bravocon looks.

[Tamara Judge]

We have time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's two months. It goes by so fast.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, but I can't. I don't. I just. My size switches so much. I can't be doing that right now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It doesn't switch that drastic.

[Tamara Judge]

It does.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It doesn't.

[Tamara Judge]

It switches the full size. So I don't know, get the bigger.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Size and alter it. Buy two sizes and then take the other one back.

[Tamara Judge]

That's true. What were your thoughts on the prank where the. When they get to beauty lab.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was cute. It was cute.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you believe it for a second?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

At first I'm like, what the hell's going on?

[Tamara Judge]

And I was like, I'm such an idiot that I just fell for this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I did. Like, at first, I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, I would say, yeah, I did. I fell for it. And I mean, it was pretty funny for Whitney to do that.

[Tamara Judge]

They're like, just like, what happened with Jen Shaw?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know what? The one thing is. Is like, was it at that point where Heather goes in on Jen Shaw or was it. No, it was later on in the episode. I'm like, girl, stop going in on Jen Shaw. Because you know that girl's coming back.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, she's gonna be back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's gonna be back.

[Tamara Judge]

And we don't actually. She was like, we should just saying this. No, we.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, we don't know for a fact. But I. If I was a betting person, I would say she's going to be back.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, she's got, what, a year left? And she's going to be blessing the, you know, her presence with the girls at Salt Lake City. Could you imagine people wanting to tune in just to see that shit show?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I mean, I tune in just to see when she's going to be walking out of prison.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

So I can't even imagine when she's on another television show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, we've had a few housewives that have gone to jail. Yeah, that's one place.

[Tamara Judge]

Thankfully not us.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I am not Doing that.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's not do that this year.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I do not want to do that ever. Ever. I do not.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's try not to get arrested.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, but, you know, they, you know, she pulled this prank, and then, you know, no federal charges were really. You know, nobody was charged with anything like Jen Shaw. However, Mary wanted to charge Brittany. Like, she is so over this. She's like, oh, we're gonna be driving. Brittany's like, we're gonna be driving by my house and. And Mary's like, can we just drop her off? Like, we don't even have to slow down. Let's just throw her out of the rv.

[Tamara Judge]

She can't even be bothered.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She can't even be bothered. It's like, oh, my God. She can't pretend Brittany.

[Tamara Judge]

To me, it's so. The way that she's lacking awareness is so confusing to me. I thought she was gonna come back and, like, have figured it out a little bit more. Like, this is your second season. Come on, figure it out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The only thing that I can say about Britney so far, the first episode, she seems like she's trying a little too hard.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you think?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I do think so. I feel like she's just throwing in her two cents when most the time it doesn't make any sense. She's going after girls like, you know, we'll talk about that in a minute. But it's like, what are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing? And she's a friend of.

[Tamara Judge]

She's a friend of. Yeah. But then they get into talking about. About. Whitney says she doesn't think Lisa is actually working. And Brittany says, you're one to talk. And Brittany says Whitney's business is getting targeted on social media. Whitney asked if Britney makes money from sucking dick. And then Brittany is defending Lisa and won't let someone throw shade.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

When did Brittany and Lisa become best friends? Do you think she's exaggerating her relationship? And that wasn't Mary. That was somebody else. Meredith, Meredith, Meredith. Do you think she's exaggerating her friendship?

[Tamara Judge]

I think she just knows, like, she needs someone, and it's not going to be one of these ladies.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So it's going to be the girl that's not there.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's the girl that's not there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's not there.

[Tamara Judge]

We can figure that out when she shows up. But at least she has one episode where she can claim that she's close with someone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, they started talking about her within minutes of the show. Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, Lisa. Like, no, no, that's all they can talk about. And then Brittany's like, Lisa's like a sister to me. Really? Really. Like. Like you've known her, like, just met her and.

[Tamara Judge]

And we haven't seen you guys get along yet, so calm down on the. Just like a sister.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Calm your tits down, girl.

[Tamara Judge]

Calm your tits. Put your tits away. Put Tamara's new tits away.

[Tamara and Teddy Joint]

And.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but then Heather brings up if someone plans a girls trip. If you don't, it makes a statement. What are your thoughts? I've.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I haven't talked to Brittany in over a year. She had sent some, like, we had dmed back and forth. Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

So I should be offended. Like, we're not even close anymore.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I wouldn't say we're best friends at all. Like, I haven't talked to her in a year. I think she recently sent me a DM or something. But no, like, I don't like. I like her. Like, I like everybody on the show. I just don't know her. I don't think we've ever met. Right. We've never met her.

[Tamara Judge]

No. We had her on the show, I bet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, we haven't had so many people on the show at this point, it's hard to even remember.

[Tamara Judge]

I wouldn't forget that one.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You wouldn't forget it? Okay. You have a better memory than I do.

[Tamara Judge]

I do not. But that one is. Wouldn't forget it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, yes, if you're not going. Well, you know, if she's negotiating her contract and she's playing hardball, she's not gonna go. I don't even know if that's really true.

[Tamara Judge]

Dropping celebrities names, who she was going to be with.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, that's Lisa. Isn't that Lisa? That's all. These are all. She's like, I'm not gonna drop names. So her, like, she's like, I'm not gonna name drop, but I'm gonna be with Blake and Ben. It's like, girl, don't admit you're gonna be like, I. I don't think I admit.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't. Don't admit that. That if she is going to be with Blake, it makes sense why she's so tight with Britney these days. Yeah, she's got questionable taste. Friendships. Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes. So, yeah, I mean, I think it's a statement not to show up to the very first trip.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think it was a funny idea that Brittany gave everybody camcorders to make fun of herself for recording them on the Sprinter last season?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do I think she did it or do I think that a Producer handed them to her.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that both. Both could be true. But I didn't hate. I didn't hate it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I thought it was a cute little thing. And they used it a lot, you know, the whole Blair Rich project. They're running through the forest, which I would not do, by the way, ever.

[Tamara Judge]

But they. It seemed like they'd only taken, like, 11 steps.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. It did. It did.

[Tamara Judge]

I was like, take us on a little bit more of a walk, because right now it seems like you just passed where Mary was eating a raw bagel.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

By the way, I have a house in Big Bear. There is no way in hell I'm walking through the woods in the dark. It's just not happening. There are bears, there's coyotes, there's wild animals.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, no, no, why did they do us this way? And I'm going to keep obsessing about it and not show us the sleeping arrangements. Why do you think they all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think maybe we haven't gotten there yet.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe you do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think it's maybe, like, to be continued maybe. Don't you think, like, they were going to see. Maybe they just did it for the day and pretend. I don't know. I. I don't know that there's enough beds in that rv.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Because when we. When we went on Beverly Hills, when we went camping, we went to a campground that had, like. Like, tents already set up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, you did a little glamping.

[Tamara Judge]

We did a little glamping. So the RV was just really to get us there and to keep our food.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Someplace to sit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Maybe they're. You know, I don't know if this is it for this RV trip. And next week they come back and they're at home, but as of right now, they're still in the woods.

[Tamara Judge]

They're still in the woods. Well, Brittany brings up how she's reading a lot online about Lisa Bronwyn. Says there's at least five lawsuits against Lisa, her business, or John and Lisa. It was in the Salt Lake City Tribune that Lisa was sued for not paying back more than $400,000 in loans. Angie says one might say it's similar to what Jen Shaw did. The girls think that that was the wrong analogy. She admits it was the wrong analogy. I mean, the way they brought Angie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We love you, but, you know, that was the wrong analogy. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's kind of like the worst thing you can. That group, you know, that it was Jen Shaw, but, you know, Whitney, Britney just went after Your business. And now you're talking about Lisa having lawsuits. That's why I love this show. Nothing's off limits.

[Tamara Judge]

Nothing's off limits. But Heather says what she has on Bronwyn isn't great either. Bronwyn lied about a $4 million necklace. And then Bronwyn says she made the girls believe she owned it and acted immature to be cool. Did this give you more respect for Bronwyn that she actually owned up to it? Me too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what you know. And anytime I talk to a new housewife that's coming in, I'm like, if you up, just own it. Just own it. Because if you own something, like we see Whitney do, you know, on this episode, nobody can say to you. But you know what? One thing that I was laughing at, why did everybody, Most of the girls act like they have not seen all this information about Lisa because they're trying.

[Tamara Judge]

To make it not a story. They're trying to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So, I mean, but. But come on, just. Heather, okay, we know that you've seen it on social media. It was in the Salt Lake. I mean, I don't know who read the newspaper, but, you know, I don't know what any of these lawsuits. I actually didn't know anything about this.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I mean, but at least say, yeah, I read it, but I don't. You know, we don't know the truth to it. And she's not here. I don't want to talk about it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, is nobody there talking to Lisa off season? Does she not have friends here where they're like, hey, what's going on?

[Tamara Judge]

You're like, like, but what are they gonna do then? Gossip about it behind your back?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Isn't that the whole purpose of Housewives? Isn't that what we do? We talk behind their back? I mean, that's. The whole season's about people talking behind my back, but I just thought, oh, come on.

[Tamara Judge]

Come on. But then not as much as it come on as when we get another toast. Brittany stands up to toast and tells the group that she and Jared got engaged. And then she got. Got unengaged two weeks after. She still sees Jared every day, though. And Whitney says that Jared has introduced her when he is on dates at Lifetime Fitness.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. Lifetime's a nice gym. It's a nice gym.

[Tamara Judge]

It is a nice gym, but not where I want to go on dates. Let's get a hard boiled egg after we work out. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

A little protein shake. Yeah, get the little farts going. Okay. Can we. I want to talk About Ron went a little bit deeper with this necklace. So she acted like he bought her a four million dollar necklace. They did a flashback to the reunion. She's acting like she's not saying she didn't get it. She's like, oh, I should have worn it. And I mean, it's a blatant lie. Yeah, that's a blatant lie. And Lisa Barlow's already called her a pathological liar. I don't like that. That at all. And then she said, I should have never been cutesy about it. That's not cutesy. That's just lying.

[Tamara Judge]

No, but she. But then she does say, I'm embarrassed that I did that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, because she got called out.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

A season later. It's not like she did that at.

[Tamara Judge]

The reunion, but at least she did it. Some people double down and found that freaking necklace knockoff and worn it and pretended and imagine like. Like the depths of some other people and what they would have done to keep up that lie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. I know girls on our show right now that all their jewelry is fake. Oh, their outfits are fake. It's like, it's embarrassing, but to say it's cutesy. But she did like you said, she fell on the sword and she confessed to everything. And she basically said she was embarrassed. What was she thinking doing that? And I don't know if it's one of those situations. Last year was her first year, right?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She was like, maybe, like, she already has money. We know she has money. We can tell by the way she dresses in her house and all this stuff. Like, she wanted to be richer than she already is.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she wanted to kind of promote the jeweler in a way that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Made it look like she bought a four million dollar necklace, which.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Which maybe she should have chosen something like a pair of studs.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wait, didn't the jeweler come out and say something?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. And a reunion.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Just don't lie about things.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, would you pick to go fly fishing or kayaking activity? And they split everybody up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, okay, okay. Fly fishing's not something I want to do. Kayaking.

[Tamara Judge]

And the freezing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And the freezing. I'm not a big kayaker. Only because I have a shoulder issue and to, like, paddle, like, it really irritates my shoulder. If somebody was paddling for me, I'd be all for the kayak.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, essentially, then you would have just had to go with Heather, because I don't think Bronwyn was doing much paddling.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, she wasn't. I mean. I mean, but even Like Whitney, like her boat is like, that's probably would be me. I'd be like swirling around and this.

[Tamara Judge]

Trip does not look like a trip that I was sad to miss.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no. So back to like, I'm going. I keep going up, forward and backwards. But the whole Britney toast and all that, and I got proposed to, then I'm not proposed to. Would you call that performative? Is she doing that just to try to make good tv?

[Tamara Judge]

I think she's doing it because I think this is now like her shtick. Like to do these toasts that no one cares about and that don't even like. I think she thinks it's cute. I think she thinks it's cutesy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

My eyes couldn't roll back farther in my head when that happened. I'm like, oh, come on. No, no, no, no, no. Do you think we're gonna see Jared? Yes, Yes. A hundred percent yes. Jared likes the cameras.

[Tamara Judge]

I think we'll see Jared for sure. I think we'll see Jared.

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[Tamara Judge]

And then we get to Whitney saying after the reunion Lisa called her a liar. Online. They get kind of into this Britney chimes and saying it's hypocritical after what she said about doing Jared for money. Her timing is so bad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know it's terrible. But why couldn't she say sucking dick?

[Tamara Judge]

What? Because she.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The baloney? Smoking the baloney pony or what? There's a lot.

[Richard Sherman]

Of.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think I heard that years ago. I'm not sure but I don't know, I just feel like. Come on.

[Tamara Judge]

But then Whitney kind of got defensive about her business because she said it failed now and she and Justin have nothing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, wait, can I ask you a question?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What business is she talking about? I know that she started a jewelry one and I know that she started a skin care one. Is it the skin care she's talking about or is it.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it. Because they were saying it was in the press everywhere. My guess is it was the jewelry one because that, remember they said that, that you could buy this. Somebody online said that you could buy the same jewelry. Like she was buying it from somewhere and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But, but this is where I got confused. As somebody that has a rather large company. Veena, she said she had 30 employees.

[Tamara Judge]

I know that's maybe it is the skin care.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's why I'm like, that is a lot of employees to have for some jewelry for a jewelry business. But the jewelry business, I, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't that that she just started that last year.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I was. That's what I heard too. So I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then there was like talk and I don't know if it was a rumor that she tried to make it into a multi level marketing business. I don't know. Anybody out there know what business we're talking about?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but I'm sure we'll dig more into it. But she was very like open and honest and like it was the best thing, we put everything into it, and the business failed. And then, you know, Brittany couldn't even help herself but run over and try to give her hugs and say she's sorry.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. Her face.

[Tamara Judge]

Too little, too late.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Whitney's like, I'm not ready for a hug.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't want hugs from you. I don't want a hug from you. No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I totally understood because when we closed Cut. When we closed Cut Fitness down, you know, you feel like you're letting your. Your customers, your members, your employees down. It's a very, very hard thing to do because it's not just affecting you. It's affecting a lot of other lives and livelihoods. So I just love the fact that she was open and honest and said, I failed. Like, you know, and then it really got the rest of the group to say. I think it was Heather that started it. We should talk about our failures.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we all talk about our wins, but not our failures. Yeah. And I think that's something that's so true to life, and that's where it's like, okay, this is. This feels like a real show and people actually sharing their lives, because that's what happens happens. You have wins and you have losses.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Especially, you know, being an entrepreneur, starting different businesses. Not all of them make it.

[Tamara Judge]

And when you're on a show, you think, you know, okay, well, yeah, I'm on the show, and it's going to get all this extra press, and then they don't. Most of the time, you don't even see much of it. So, like, the fact that we don't even know what business she's talking about.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's the part that I'm a little bit confused. Do you think Lisa will do the same thing about what's going on? Do you think that she will. She won't.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think so. Do you?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I don't. I think she's a little bit more. She wants everybody to think things are perfect.

[Tamara Judge]

Perfect. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And that's okay. Some people are like that, and they don't want to expose, you know, what.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think they're happening thing with her and Meredith being so tight again? Did I miss that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, there wasn't a lot that was leaked while they were filming. Thank God, because I hate when that happens. Oh, so I'm hearing it's her beauty business. So that would be her skin care. Skin care, which anytime you have a product like that, it is hundreds of thousands of dollars. Close to a million to, you know, production. I mean, I think we spent a million dollars in just advertising. Like, it. It's very. You know, it takes a lot of money. You have to have a lot of money. And they.

[Tamara Judge]

You have to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

A lot of money in reserves, too.

[Tamara Judge]

They invested at all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And it takes, like, you know, a good. Good amount of time to start making money.

[Tamara and Teddy Joint]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

On most businesses. And you just put it back into the business. Back into the business to grow it, so. Well, that's a bummer. You know, I hope it is a.

[Tamara Judge]

Bummer, but I'm glad that she shared. Yeah. Because if she would have been like, what do you mean? My businesses are doing great. I have nothing. You know, of course I can talk about somebody else, but everything's perfect with me. I would have been like, well, that's rude.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So do you think we're gonna see Lisa next week?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, if they're back from camping, then.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, maybe she'll show up to the campground. Didn't they do a campground last year, too? Like, they're all around a campfire. They're all dressed in.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, there's probably not. I mean, not Temecula. Tamara, wait.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I also have to ask you a question. That the area that they went camping in, isn't that where the secret lives and Mormon lives? They live Pro. Provo.

[Tamara Judge]

Nearby, maybe. But.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But, I mean, not in the woods, but they live. And don't they live in. In that Provo, Utah?

[Tamara Judge]

I think so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I want to live in Salt Lake City. I think that'd be fun.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Let's go.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Eddie talked about the other day, he's like. Because, you know, Sophia maybe has a year left, and then she's gonna, you know, either go to a state college or she's gonna go to New York. We'll figure it out. And then we're like, well, what keeps us to this house? Like, we can go somewhere else? And he's like, let's go. Let's go into Salt Lake City.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that would be. You would be really good on Salt Lake City.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I'm not saying I'm going on the show. I'm just saying it's just such a beautiful place to live. But.

[Tamara Judge]

What do you mean, but?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If I could get myself. If I can get myself on that show, I would love to.

[Tamara Judge]

Those new titties. I'm sure you can't. God, I saw you just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Archer, you'll be seeing a lot of these titties.

[Tamara Judge]

Like we haven't already. We've seen them at.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They're new and improved.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you have new titties when you were in New Orleans?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no, I didn't show my titties. I think they blurted I had a grandma bra. And they actually believe me.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought it was beige.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. My. Even like, because I don't wear a bra normally, I do not wear a bra ever. And because I have to be miked, you have to. Have to hook onto something. I don't like it hooked onto my pants. It looks like I have, like, a growth coming out of my spine. So, like my butt. So I like my arch in my back. I don't want a big old pack sitting back there. So I have to wear a bra. And so I don't really have. I don't wear nice bras.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I mean, I wear, like, skims bras every day. The last. An underwire has not seen my body and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, so I've. The doctor, Dr. Moltz wants me in a underwire for three months. I'm now at two months. So I. I have two months I've been wearing one. And I will say, because of all, like, he said it. I have thousands of stitches in there. And of course, they're dissolved now. But even laying on my side with the bra on or without a bra, it is. Doesn't feel great. Doesn't feel great yet. So still healing.

[Tamara Judge]

Still healing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I have to wear that underwire bra.

[Tamara Judge]

I hate an underwire.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I will never wear it again. After the next month is up.

[Tamara Judge]

Nope. Then it kind of. As we're starting to, like, end the episode, it starts getting very Blair Witch. They're looking for Molly Sorensen's past. The girls get lost. They film it on their camcorders, and it ends with a scream.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I could have done without this. This was stupid. I'm sorry. It looked performative. It looked staged.

[Tamara Judge]

It looked like 11 steps from the camper.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it looked. It just. I. No.

[Tamara Judge]

Also, Andrew K. Doesn't seem like somebody to me who would forget food items, like, if you were camping.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I guarantee you they did not spend the night there. I mean, we will find out, but I just feel like it was just like a day trip. But I don't know. I might be wrong.

[Tamara Judge]

We might.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you notice Angie in her. In the camper? She was like this with her bottle the entire time.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, she was, like, going for it. She's like, listen, I'm either gonna get some press on this or I'm gonna get hammered. One or the other.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Either. I'M going belly up on this business or I am going to make it happen. Vita Tequila, whatever. This is a new Tequila. Not that Vita stuff. I can just see her, like, the way she was doing it, drinking the flashing it around. I'm gonna start doing that with my cbd.

[Tamara Judge]

We, I, maybe I should start doing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

With my salmon sperm.

[Tamara Judge]

The fact that you got salmon sperm and asked if we sent it to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You, I thought, like, maybe they were a advertiser on the podcast. But it's. It's called Y U R S L F yourself. I think it's like, it's salmon sperm. It says salmon DNA, but that salmon sperm's the thing.

[Tamara Judge]

So same term, little.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I like how they do it.

[Tamara Judge]

Looks like a little injectable.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So I, I'm trying it. I'm seeing that the sperm.

[Tamara Judge]

Where are you putting it on your face? Are you trying to get pregnant it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, God. Could you. Oh, yes. I'm, I'm doing this.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm doing it with a salmon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. I, I, that ship is sailed. That book is closed. Ain't nothing growing in this.

[Tamara Judge]

Ain't nothing at all except for fat. Oh, my gosh. We have some fan questions.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, we have fan questions.

[Tamara Judge]

Fan questions. Salt Lake City is the only franchise I don't watch. Should I? Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It is actually one of the best franchises.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't sleep on this. Watch this. And what are you watching if you're not watching Salt Lake City?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. I can't believe they're on season six already. I remember when they were announced at Bravo Con and we all kind of went. Really?

[Tamara Judge]

We're like Salt Lake City.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And it's. I think it's one of the best franchises.

[Tamara Judge]

It's so the girls deliver.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They know the assignment. They don't dwell on from years ago. It's not. They don't try to take one person down. And they all seem to come together. They fight, they come together. They fight, they come together.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like it's fresh, new drama. Everybody has their own hitting the fan at different times. Meredith for sure is going to walk off multiple times because that's what she always does.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I was a walker this year.

[Tamara Judge]

H, you know how I feel.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I, I've never like that. I'm. Oh, you know, I'm always. But I just, just if, if I didn't, I was going to burst into tears and just thought, I'm leaving. I quit.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't have to go home, but I can't stay here.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I hate you all.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Jordan asked, do you Think Brittany is doing the most to try and get a snowflake. I guess I didn't even think of that because for me, it's so far fetched.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know if it's about getting a snowflake, but she's definitely trying to do more than she should.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's. It's definitely coming off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I heard it gets worse. It gets worse.

[Tamara Judge]

No, it doesn't stop. No, we're gonna be dealing with this all season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

No, that's what.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what I heard. Little birdie.

[Tamara Judge]

Who'd you hear from? Sheena?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't never say. I will never say.

[Tamara Judge]

And Then pack underscore 20 says there's no Real Housewives of Salt Lake City without Lisa Barlow, period. Do we agree?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I agree. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I mean, there is one, but we want her on it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, yeah, I mean, they can do it. Anybody can do do it. But the fact is, all they did was talk about her. But that's what happens when you're not somewhere where you're supposed to be. If you leave a cast trip, evidently all they do is talk about you.

[Tamara Judge]

Rumor has it. Rumor has it that that happens.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Would you rather see Monica or Jen Shaw back?

[Tamara Judge]

Probably Monica.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Me too.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, probably Monica. Just because I think Monica would really get into it where I think Jen Shaw is going to come back and she's going to try to redo her image.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't mind seeing both of them back. For sure.

[Tamara Judge]

They can't both be back together.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You don't think so? Why not? Think about how good TV that would be.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, who knows? They would. It would be epic.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it'd be epic.

[Tamara Judge]

See? Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Said it at the same time. It would be epic. I don't like when cast members decide somebody needs to go and they ice them out.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't like it either.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't like it even though I.

[Tamara Judge]

Think they're already trying.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Even if they do, they're trying to do it with me. I feel like. And look what happened to Katie.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what you have to stop doing?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Apologizing.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, no, it's not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm not doing that anymore.

[Tamara Judge]

What? Saying. Do you like me?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I was just teasing.

[Tamara Judge]

I know you were teasing, but you can't do it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I did everything I could. And if somebody can't move on now, just watching it, I'm like, I'm done.

[Tamara and Teddy Joint]

Done?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Done. I. I don't owe you anymore. I don't owe you an apology. I don't owe you anything.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, you did all the apologies. I also need to know, did Shannon cook anything?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she did. She's a great cook.

[Tamara Judge]

No, but did she cook anything while you were in Temecula?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she did. Oh, she did.

[Tamara Judge]

So, yeah, Erica and I were wrong. We thought the whole bringing all that stuff was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no, no. She. She. She makes skeevers. Evil skeevers or something like that. They're like, like kind of like donuts. They're really good.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's. She's actually a really good baker.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so she did that. That wasn't just for. See, this is. This is why sometimes you need to hear from somebody else. Because in my mind I thought, gosh, why. That was just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And here and here, people like Sheena think like, you call me and go, okay, give me the dirt. What happened? Yeah, give me. Let me. And I. I don't. I don't even listen to your guys. I don't listen to any of them. But your recap of Orange county. Only because I don't want to hear it. I don't want to get like. I like. I don't even like watching the episodes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yeah. It's. I don't know. People are so loony. Baloney's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But I don't know. I love you. We have you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I have a couple fan thoughts that were sent to me.

[Tamara Judge]

All right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So one is favorite moment was when Whitney admitted her business failed. Love seeing the woman be honest. And we, we talked about that. Dina Pete says it was honestly nice to get a break from Lisa.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay. Dina Pete's.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think Lisa would have done well on that trip.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. Max Hadid og said I didn't think it was possible, but Brittany is more annoying than last season.

[Tamara Judge]

It's possible.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's happening.

[Tamara Judge]

It's possible.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't even know how to say this. Amstegs. I love Lisa, but it's okay for a full time. Is it okay for a full time housewife to not show up to a cast trip?

[Tamara Judge]

I think, I guess if you're in negotiations and it's not done yet, your deal's not done, then you don't show up. But then you have to know that people are going to talk about you the whole time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right. And at the end of the day, this is your reality. So if you. Something's going on and you don't want to make it or whatever, then you're not going to make it. Do I think it is a great idea?

[Tamara Judge]

No, it's going to come bite you in the ass.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's going to bite you in the ass.

[Tamara Judge]

But I think, I think we're going to see her soon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now people have also sent me some messages about this. I don't know how you feel about it, but they would like to see Vicky Gundelson in the twat seat.

[Tamara Judge]

Great. We should have her on.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We should.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we. I would even do a swap with her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Should we do a pod swap?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, let's do a swap.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, let me.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm fine to have her on her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Christian is her co host and then me and you can be on hers.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that's good. I think we should do a swap because we haven't talked in a long time and I can feel that there's, you know, the way that she's been talking about you on her pod on. Well, on the clips that I've seen seem really positive and like she really misses. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, that's the one thing. Yeah. So that's me and, me and Vicki. We've had, you know, an up and down friendship but we've known each other 20 years and we have been good friends. I know, you know, everything about her kids and her divorces or divorce and her relationships and know so much about her and I just feel like there's that deep rooted friendship. And although I don't like what she said about me as a mom, I know she said it out of just being pissed off, but Vicky is somebody that can say something, go, you know what, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And that's why I love her so much. Because you know what, you can get mad, you can say to hold your feet to the fire because you said it. Okay, move on. You said it. You didn't mean it. Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, I'd be fine to. I'd be 100 fine to have her on. And although people thought that I was the one that was not interested in being friendly with her because I was jealous of you and her friendship. Like I want. I'm completely happy to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Let's just say we didn't start off on a good foot, but we are better. She sent you a present for a get well present, I guess. Is that what it was? And she has said some nice things and yeah, I think that she was.

[Tamara Judge]

One of our first guests on Tutti's. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now I would like to see her on season 20. I think as an, as an OG, as somebody that started the show, I think out of respect.

[Tamara Judge]

Would you want her to be a housewife or.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, a housewife. She needs to be full time because I know how her brain thinks. If she's a friend of. Could you imagine being somebody who started a show and then you're just a friend of. You're like, I ain't giving.

[Tamara Judge]

I think, like, I don't have to do that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't have to do this. I don't have to fight with people. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. But I think if she was full time, it'd be a totally different mindset.

[Tamara Judge]

Would you boot somebody else off or would you have everybody else stay on?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I would definitely boot a couple of people off. I'm not going to say who, but. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Beautiful. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh. Well, stay tuned. I cannot wait for more Orange County. I can't wait for more Salt Lake City. And then we've got an episode of Real Housewives of Miami coming up. And hopefully.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We'Re about to get busy.

[Tamara Judge]

Girl Adriana can get herself together and say some words. This episode we have Luann coming on Potomac starts soon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So we're about to get busy now, guys. There was a little bit of a. A lull, I guess you call it, with the podcast, because Bravo did us dirty. There was hardly any shows airing, hardly any housewives. We went from five days a week to like once a week. And so now we are back on track. And I'm excited about that. Bravo don't do that to us.

[Tamara Judge]

We can't handle it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no. We need all the shows. We need all of them.

[Tamara Judge]

We need it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So it's gonna be.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be juicy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. But thanks for tuning in and we'll.

[Tamara Judge]

Talk to you guys soon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, bye.

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