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Tamara Judge
Two T's in a pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
Teddi Mellencamp
Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Dolores Catania.
Tamara Judge
Hello, everyone.
Teddi Mellencamp
Hello. Hello. We're getting it started. We are going to recap Real Housewives of Atlanta. But before we do that, we have some fan questions and we also have some housewife headlines. So I did a little Instagram poll this morning, and these are the top questions for you, Dolores. And I would love you to open, open up and answer them as freely and as openly as you can, considering I know.
Tamara Judge
I love authenticity.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. I mean, so the first one is.
Tamara Judge
You probably already have the answers before you ask me if I know you, Teddi, but go ahead. I'm here.
Teddi Mellencamp
Okay, well, let's start with a funny one that you wouldn't expect. Who would you rather film with? Danielle Staub or Jackie G?
Tamara Judge
Jackie. Who's Jackie G?
Teddi Mellencamp
Goldenschlo.
Tamara Judge
Oh, Jackie. Jackie. Jackie. Yeah. You'll kill me for not knowing that off the bat.
Teddi Mellencamp
Like, oh, my God, this is so good.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, yeah. No, no, Jackie G. I mean, I'm thinking of my. You know what threw me off? Kim G. Remember Kim G. Oh, yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
Keep digging. Keep on digging. Jackie G. Okay, Jackie G. Okay. What is your relationship with Teresa like, currently?
Tamara Judge
It's good. I spoke to her the other day. We text. She's traveling. I was traveling. I actually spoke to her when I was in California.
Teddi Mellencamp
So speaking and spending time together are two different things for me. So when was the last time you guys hung out?
Tamara Judge
Was a few months ago. When was it? We have a friend group, so it was one of the girls birthdays. So it was two months ago and I'll be seeing her. We're celebrating her birthday. We have like this mad group chat with all the girls off the show. Like, we have a whole group of girls we've been friends with for years. High school.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, and what is your. So what's your astrological sign. And what's hers?
Tamara Judge
I'm a Capricorn. And she is her birthday. April.
Teddi Mellencamp
April. What is. What's April, Matt.
Tamara Judge
Aries.
Teddi Mellencamp
She's not a Virgo.
Tamara Judge
No, no, that's September. That's all. Like, August. September. I know that because my kids are Libras, which is after that.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I was just curious. Sometimes she gives me a little bit of Virgo energy. Yeah. Teresa.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
She's a Taurus, which I don't know much about, but. Okay, so. Well, true. It's a ball. The next question is, have.
Tamara Judge
Do you know her birthday is May 18? So why did I think it passed? And I felt like I just posted for her.
Teddi Mellencamp
Listen, I'm not good with birth dates, so we could pretend.
Tamara Judge
I'm confused. Okay. So her birthday is May 18th, and we'll be going out for her birthday with the girls group soon.
Teddi Mellencamp
Perfect. Have Teresa and Joe, her brother, not her ex. Have they spoken since the show's not coming back?
Tamara Judge
No. She vows to ever speak to him again.
Teddi Mellencamp
Do you think you could change that?
Tamara Judge
No. And I think anyone who tries to change it is then going to be not spoken to at all. Oh, like, it's. Yeah. Like, don't. Like, just don't. If that was.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's got to be so tough.
Tamara Judge
Other at events. So what? We'll go to events or there's, like. I'm not like, a person. If I'm invited. I try to make it, but, like, the dinners, like, the double date stuff, you won't see me do too much of that just for the fact that my.
Teddi Mellencamp
It starts late.
Tamara Judge
Yes. My time, my downtime is. I like being alone a little bit.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, me too. Me too.
Tamara Judge
I'm always included. I'm always asked if I can go. I make it on both sides.
Teddi Mellencamp
Do you know any of the girls from the Real Housewives of Rhode Island?
Tamara Judge
I do.
Teddi Mellencamp
You do what? Can you give us an idea of what the vibe of that show is going to be based on? Who you know?
Tamara Judge
I feel like. I don't want to say. Like, a lot of people are going old New Jersey. Old New Jersey. I don't think anything is old New Jersey. I think that nothing will compare to that. I'd like to see people. Because if you try to compare it to anything or anything, you usually. You'll get disappointed. Like, you're not, like, don't put it up against anything. Let it be. It's. Let Rhode island be its own thing.
Teddi Mellencamp
Because I kind of thought Rhode island was Going to be like kind of summer housey vibes. Because there's places in Rhode island that are, like, super bougie and. But it's not going to be that. No, no.
Tamara Judge
They have some. The. The people over there, you know, the streets are. Are painted in the Italian flag.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, that's.
Tamara Judge
Need I say anymore?
Teddi Mellencamp
What do I need to know about Italian men?
Tamara Judge
They're tough. They're. They're really. Italian men. Are they make you feel like you're with a man? They're protective. Not that easy to get along with as far as they're stubborn. Italian men are stubborn.
Teddi Mellencamp
But do they realize that they're stubborn?
Tamara Judge
No. They don't know any other way. It's like, kind of like in their DNA. Like, it's just the way they are. The Italian guys. I know I'm speaking like, but I know a lot of Italians, but they're. But there's a soft side to them, and there's a charisma to them that's different. So next turn, Daddy, because I don't get to talk to you, and I wanted to know this. How's your treatment going?
Teddi Mellencamp
Treatment is going okay. You know, the. The. I was supposed to have my last immunotherapy last Wednesday. And I say last, which I have no idea if it's my last, but my final one of this phase was supposed to be last Wednesday. They wanted to kind of cram them together closer, and then insurance wouldn't cover it because it was not three weeks out. So now my next immunotherapy is on Wednesday, and that's when they do my cats, my PET scan, my everything, and.
Tamara Judge
See how I'm doing.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, everything. My dad's coming into town.
Tamara Judge
Okay.
Teddi Mellencamp
We're kind of. My dad's also being honored at something. I guess it's the Grammys. So he's being honored for something. He's playing a couple songs. But it all kind of worked out that he would be here for it, because the last set of things, I got good news that the tumors are shrinking. But now I haven't seen anybody for three weeks, so I have to kind of figure out where I am and then kind of go from there.
Tamara Judge
Good news is coming.
Teddi Mellencamp
I hope so. I really hope so.
Tamara Judge
It is. I can feel it. All good. Thank you. All good. And you look beautiful. All I can think about every time I see is, how does she do it? You're so pretty and you're so. Your face is so beautiful. And you have a good body. Like, you just work out all the time you make me a little bit mad. But, yeah, like, I hold it together. You hold it together.
Teddi Mellencamp
But I think that I can hold it together because I can also be very honest. Like, when I first, you know, I sat down. We have, you know, filmed multiple pods in one day, and I have paid posts and all kinds of stuff. When I woke up this morning, I was like, today is an absolute no. Like, I can't do any of the things. But then I kind of just like. I'm like, you can do this. You can do it. And then I can be honest. Like I told our producers, I told you when we first got on the phone, I'm like, sorry, guys, if I'm not 100%, it's just because I feel a little yucky. And once I say that, everything feels lighter. But if I just try to, like, grin and bear it and pretend I'm amazing, then I'm not. Then I'm.
Tamara Judge
Well, I think that. I think in life, people should follow that.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
I think it really was just a burden off you. Honesty is just being honest and being forthright about things. It's just a burden. Like, I have to have a conversation with someone today I'm not looking forward to. And instead of me just not caring and just being like, wait, you know, waking up today and going, yeah, I'm going to have this conversation like you did, or I'm going to just do this. I'm going to tell everybody. But I look to you for things I'm learning. You're teaching me a lot. Anything fun happen backstage at Wango Tango?
Teddi Mellencamp
I have to say, the fun part.
Tamara Judge
Feels like something did.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yes. The fun part that happened at Wango Tango was Meghan Trainor is incredibly sweet and kind and loving. Like, came up, ran up to me, and the kids gave them big hugs.
Tamara Judge
I love that.
Teddi Mellencamp
Like, went above and beyond. So that part was pretty cool. And then also, as we're walking out after we.
Tamara Judge
Well, you're kind of a big deal, too. I don't know if you know that, but.
Teddi Mellencamp
Okay, well, she's a pretty big deal, and she was. Anybody that's nice to my kids, I like her.
Tamara Judge
I like her.
Teddi Mellencamp
Anybody that's nice to my kids. But, like, after that, we went, you know, because we went on stage and we announced her, and it was so fun. But as we're walking out, we see Cruz is already, like, you know, he's already puffed up. He's like, meghan Trainer gave me a hug. All's good. And then this boy comes up to Cruz. And I recognize him on the corner of my eye. And they're like, bro, Bro. And they're like, hey. And it's Gwen Stefani's son that they play football together.
Tamara Judge
Oh, how cute.
Teddi Mellencamp
So they, like, had a moment, and I was just like, this is such a fun way to celebrate Mother's Day with my kids. And, like, they all got to, like, it filled their cups. And the fact that I could be there with my stepdaughter and her mom just shows how much growth we've had and how we could all kind of support each other and be there for each other.
Tamara Judge
That's the way it should be.
Teddi Mellencamp
I want to be very clear. It was very hard work to get to the part where me and Bella's mother could 1 million percent connect the way that we have.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. We were talking about this at the table. Not you and Bella's mom, but, um, you know, trouble with former women.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
That were involved. I don't think it's easy to be around us and where we come from, what we have going on, or even just the way you look, you know, it can't be easy for another woman always. Or.
Teddi Mellencamp
But if you work on it and you talk about it, then it's such an amazing feeling. But it does take work. It's not just effortless. And so if you're going through divorce or if you have step kids or if you have whatever, just make, you know, like, we're a couple years into this now where, like, she is one of my closest friends, and I'm so lucky for that because, you know, Bella's 16 years old. We're going through a lot, and, like, I needed her. I needed her at that event, and she was there for me, and it really meant a lot. It.
Tamara Judge
It does. Because essentially, that's family.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
When you love a child, when you're with someone and they have a child and you love that kid, the mother is a part of that kid, and it should all work. You know, I'm an advocate of that, a huge advocate of everybody coming together. And the same thing for Michelle and Jesse at this point. Let leave it behind before things get so bad you can't come back from it.
Danielle Fishel
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Tamara Judge
Don't say things that you're gonna crazy. Don't say things. And she's not wrong when she says, I'm the mother of your child. Like, there's something to be said for that. So, you know, let's all. Let's all get along.
Teddi Mellencamp
Let's all learn from that.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. Life. It doesn't need to be that hard. Yeah. But, you know, there's another question I have.
Teddi Mellencamp
What?
Tamara Judge
Are you coming back to Beverly Hills next season?
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, my gosh, I have no idea. I have no idea. No clue.
Tamara Judge
I don't know. Well, first of all, I think they could use you.
Teddi Mellencamp
I mean, I. I really don't know. I plead the fifth.
Tamara Judge
Teddy, timing is everything. You do know that. And I think it's your time.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I am just so boring. And I'm all.
Tamara Judge
You're not, though. You're not. I put your.
Teddi Mellencamp
Nothing's going on with me, so I have no idea what I would.
Tamara Judge
I know, but like. Yeah, yeah. Well, maybe if you're lucky, something will happen that'll be worth talking about.
Teddi Mellencamp
Maybe if I'm lucky, more of what's happening right now can happen to me and then, you know, you guys can all see it play out. But truly, I have no idea. But before we get in, because if.
Tamara Judge
I have to watch it, I'd really like for you to be on.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, then. And I'd like you to recap me if that was the case. Please, please and thank you.
Tamara Judge
Oh, you've had your. You've had your share with recapping me, so, yeah, I would be.
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Yeah. So I don't have an invitation yet. Let me know how it goes.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, the good news for you is even when you don't have invitations and you can still come for two teas in a pod.
Tamara Judge
One of your tickets. I know you get like two tickets and we can.
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Tamara Judge
I did. I.
Teddi Mellencamp
But me and Tamara always have a suite set up there and we do interviews, so we'll do that again.
Tamara Judge
Oh, thanks for including me.
Teddi Mellencamp
You know what?
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I have to get there some way.
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I got to keep the couple Bravo friends that I got after these recaps. So.
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Teddi Mellencamp
So now let's get into Real Housewives of Atlanta. So I don't think that I've recapped Atlanta with you before, so I don't know who your favorites are and who you kind of have the with.
Tamara Judge
You know, it's hard because each episode is very different. Like, they do take turns being the wrong one here.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, they do.
Tamara Judge
They do. I Mean, and I. Like I said. And I say it all the time. I. My opinion can change with information. You're only as good as your last episode. Sorry.
Will Friedel
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Teddi Mellencamp
That's true. It's very, very true.
Tamara Judge
So I don't have any favorites and I don't have any dislikes, but this was. This was a good episode as far as clearing Drew. But we'll get to that.
Teddi Mellencamp
They talk about sex a lot in this. There's a lot of sex talk in Atlanta.
Tamara Judge
There's a lot of talk, period. Like, sometimes I have to Google the word, but yeah, yeah, they.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, it starts out there at Kelly's house. Kelly has a great relationship with the father of her eldest daughter, which confused me because earlier she was wondering if her. Her recent ex husband was going to adopt her.
Tamara Judge
Was confused about that. That really threw me off.
Teddi Mellencamp
So then it makes me. I noticed those little nuances, and I'm like, that's not little.
Tamara Judge
There was a whole scene on that.
Teddi Mellencamp
A whole scene. So then I'm like, are you just looking for things to talk about sitting in the backyard?
Tamara Judge
And the kid was sitting on the little st. And I mean, I remember it clear as day. So, yeah, that threw me off.
Teddi Mellencamp
It threw me off. But then Kelly's looking for a new house. She's been in a townhouse since her divorce. That can be tricky. But then they pan to what her house looked like before.
Tamara Judge
7,000 square feet. She has, like, a castle. Her house is beautiful.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. So who has the biggest house? Angela Shamia.
Tamara Judge
I think Shamia of all the housewives, period.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, then Shamia isn't messing around because she's got big house energy. She gets dinner with Ralph.
Tamara Judge
See? Whoa. That was a little bit, like, hit below the belt.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, I agree. And then to have Portia show up.
Tamara Judge
That was like, yeah, well, hey, listen, good tv.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Well, Ralph pitches a podcast idea, which I wish he would have left not pitching. He calls it Family Feud meets Battle.
Tamara Judge
The second Queensland.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Shamaya couldn't even pretend that it was a good idea. She's like, yeah, well, you know, keep me posted.
Tamara Judge
She said, yeah, no, no, she did. She said, well, you can, like, make money on that, and it's all about.
Teddi Mellencamp
Making money, but you're kind of pigeon holding yourself. But also, why would you call it. What was the name supposed to be, but King and Queens? But you're in the middle of a divorce. Quit trying to involve Drew when you're getting a divorce. Like, call it something fresh. It's not King and Queens anymore. You're not the king of her castle.
Tamara Judge
Apparently he had a podcast with Shamia at one time that drew another thing Red Flag didn't know about. So he also. He also spoke about their very fast and furious relationship. Now how do you feel on, like, you know, he met her four months later. They're. They're engaged. Married.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, so he said. He said three months later. Proposed, then, then engaged, then married, then have a baby. I think she's pregnant after eight months. I think it's really hard to get to know somebody to that level, to know that you could live with them.
Tamara Judge
Um, I'm not all about rushing into things.
Teddi Mellencamp
Divorced twice, so I'm not sure I'm the best at relationship advice, but I.
Tamara Judge
Know you would be because you've made your mistakes, and you.
Teddi Mellencamp
Even with either one of those. I didn't rush into it. And I had a pretty good run, you know, like Edwin and I had a pretty good run, you know, 16 years together. That's a good run.
Tamara Judge
That's a really good run. And I think there's. That someone who's been through two divorces can definitely speak. I don't want to really talk to someone who's been married for 30 years and dating since high school about relationship advice. I don't think you can tell me what it's like to date.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, I don't want to hear it. I want to hear the truth. I want to hear the good and the bad and the ugly. I want to hear about how hard it is to date. I want to hear about the perks. I want to hear about what the status of people are that get back together. Because I think there's a point. Ralph and Drew are a little bit like Jesse and Michelle. Michelle to me, 100%. They carry a lot with the other person.
Tamara Judge
And they're very. They're too mad at each other.
Teddi Mellencamp
You.
Tamara Judge
There's no reason to still be mad like that. But they're in the thick of it.
Teddi Mellencamp
And I think there's financial stuff involved, which leads me to question. I'm confused. Who has the money, Ralph or Drew? Are they even? Because they were talking about hoops paying the exterminator.
Tamara Judge
But like $100, $150. And he got mad.
Teddi Mellencamp
See, here's his basement's fancier looking than her main part of the house.
Tamara Judge
I know, but here's the thing. When you're getting divorced and you're leaving for the weekend so that he could come out of the basement and hang around the house, which is the dumbest shit I ever Fucking saw you got your mom waiting in the car because she's got to go, too. Mom has got to go.
Teddi Mellencamp
What was the mom doing?
Tamara Judge
I think she lives there. She got to go, too.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, she got to get out of the house. Because I was like, we never saw her again.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, yeah. So it's just like, come on, enough, guys. So anyway, they're still fighting. Like, she's leaving the courthouse going, you're a big jerk. You're a big jerk off. I don't know what the hell she said to him. Like, come on. Oh, it was. Shamia asked why you filed for divorce, and he said, because she allegedly cheated with Ty.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. I mean, and he didn't use the word alleged. But we have to.
Tamara Judge
We have to. But then they flash back to her saying, well, she listens to me. She's nice to me. She makes me laugh.
Teddi Mellencamp
She makes me feel good. She's there for me. And, I mean, I've spent a good amount of time with Ralph and Drew where. Because Drew helped fill in for the podcast a couple of times, and we went to Vegas together.
Tamara Judge
Oh, you're kidding.
Teddi Mellencamp
So I like both of them.
Tamara Judge
Them.
Teddi Mellencamp
But I could tell they were still together when this was happening. But I could immediately tell this relationship isn't going to last. Like, I thought separately, they were amazing, but I was like, this is not going to work out.
Tamara Judge
You know, there's so much turmoil amongst couples in. In the Bravo world right now, or just what we're seeing. You're looking at, you know, this relationship, Michelle and Jesse, Brittany and Jax. I mean, it goes on across the board.
Will Friedel
Well, I think.
Teddi Mellencamp
But I think divorce has now become something that people talk about. You remember, for a while, people wouldn't talk about miscarriages or people wouldn't talk about if they couldn't get pregnant. And then now that's been more common talk. Like, more open. I think that people struggling in their marriage has also become more open because it's so common. But somebody did an interview, and I'm not even going to mention her name, but she talked about how she blamed reality television on why certain people have gotten divorced. And I don't. I think sometimes it can be a cause. But I think Ralph and Drew or myself and Edwin wouldn't have worked out in the end, regardless if we were ever on television shows.
Tamara Judge
Correct. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that. We can only blame so much on Bravo and NBC.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, you can't.
Tamara Judge
I mean, I don't like blaming where it doesn't belong.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, it's Like, I don't do that for the show. And I also think if you're choosing to do the show, if you're choosing to put your life on reality television, something is missing in your life and you're wanting to fill that void with either financial or the attention. There is something that somebody crazy enough to do.
Tamara Judge
People want to be famous sometimes.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
You know, but.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, but either way, then Portia walks in. They are so excited that they know this meal is covered. And then they all are kind of talk. At this point I realized, ralph, stop being such a star fucker. Stop it. Well, stop it right now.
Tamara Judge
But then what does he do for a living?
Teddi Mellencamp
I guess he's going to be a podcaster.
Tamara Judge
It's not very manly to me. I thought he was a producer and then want to be part of what she's doing. And that's how Portia felt rightfully so about. What's his name?
Teddi Mellencamp
Dennis.
Tamara Judge
Dennis. Sorry.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. And Dennis is still doing the same thing. Dennis sent a Porsche text and said, I told Drew I wouldn't F her. Dennis was trying to clarify that he was only asking Drew to run him his money. Ralph thinks Drew is seeing someone else. Ralph says he filed for divorce because of the cheating, blah, blah, blah. Shamaya thinks it's ludicrous that Portia and Angela made up, but she and Angela haven't.
Tamara Judge
I agree with Shamir.
Teddi Mellencamp
I know.
Tamara Judge
Why is Angela and I. I typically stick up for Angela.
Teddi Mellencamp
You do? Yeah.
Tamara Judge
I like.
Teddi Mellencamp
I like Angela.
Tamara Judge
I think she's a lady. I like the way she carries herself. I think she's screwed with those fucking houses. Big time.
Teddi Mellencamp
Big time. That closet.
Tamara Judge
I. I think the way. I know, I think the way that she handles things when it happens and a very. Like they've come for her. She's had to hold her own with not a lot of help. Like, I've never seen Drew come to the rescue when she's even fighting for her or sticking up for her. So Angela. Yeah, I mean, what I appreciate about.
Teddi Mellencamp
Angela is she lets it marinade and lets the fight happen and then gives us the truth. So even as we're watching Atlanta and we hear that, you know, Portia says that she's gonna, you know, she should hook up with fuck her husband or that there's a child that we don't know about. That Angela in the moment doesn't just scream out the information. She waits until it's a one on one scene and then she provides it.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, well, listen, that takes maturity, intelligence, and I'm in favor of that I'm able to do that. A lot of people are not.
Teddi Mellencamp
You're lucky that you're able to do that because I really appreciate it. Because then we got the full story about Wendy Williams husband.
Tamara Judge
And people will sit down, listen then.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, Wendy Williams husband had an affair that produced a child. Angela commiserated about having gone through the same situation. So they just assumed it was her current relationship, but it wasn't. And then Wendy Williams went on the air and talked about it. And so all of these things that happened, but she just let it kind of flow through. And then she gave them information and then they still pushed at her and said, but isn't your husband a cheater? And she's like, I'm not going to lie to you guys. Like, we have had ups and downs in our relationship.
Tamara Judge
I married a ball player. I know what I signed up for.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. And you know, honest.
Tamara Judge
That's you. You like that?
Teddi Mellencamp
I liked it. It made me love her and I. Pretty much everything she's shown us, in my opinion is that she is honest. Like she's showing us these houses and she's like, shit, I got to get these on tv Because I got to try to. But like, let's just try to be nice about that. Small little area is a closet. And this is $3 million. Can you look up why we're on this? Have any of these homes sold?
Tamara Judge
Listen, she's got her hands full over there. I don't know how Charles is to live with. I don't know. I know he doesn't get along with her family. I think it might be a little bit on the fault of her family. By the way the family treated the daughter that one time.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Which is the daughter they were referring to, not his blood daughter.
Tamara Judge
No, they were talking to. Oh, is that who it was?
Teddi Mellencamp
I think so.
Tamara Judge
No one said. I didn't even think he was the blood daughter. I think she's much older than as long as they've been together.
Teddi Mellencamp
But that's who they're talking about. I believe the one that got married without telling anybody.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. No, I don't think that's who they're talking about.
Teddi Mellencamp
I think it might be she's older.
Tamara Judge
Than her saying how long.
Teddi Mellencamp
I know, but that's why I'm saying this is such a ludicrous story.
Tamara Judge
No, I think this is like a love child from a one night stand.
Teddi Mellencamp
I thought, well, maybe one of her.it's one of her daughters. Yes. It's not one of his. I don't Think? I don't know. But this is where we need to get deeper down the rabbit hole. But I think it's one of her daughters. I don't know if it's the one we saw, but that's what I think she was saying, because Angela clarifies.
Tamara Judge
Oh. She said, it happened to me with.
Teddi Mellencamp
Her daughter's father, not with Charles.
Tamara Judge
Right.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh. Oh.
Tamara Judge
So what I'm saying is that's her daughter, but the daughter's father had a child with someone else, so now her daughter from another man has a half sister from an affair.
Teddi Mellencamp
Okay, see, this is why I need you, because you're gonna help me stay on track. Cause I got a little lost there. Okay.
Tamara Judge
It's, like, confusing.
Teddi Mellencamp
There's a lot of kids. A lot of kids. So according to online, we can't find anything about the houses. We can't find if they're for sale still. We can't find if they're sold. So I don't know if they weren't fully.
Tamara Judge
Well, I wish her luck with that, because that is stress. Yeah, that'll put wrinkles around your mouth.
Teddi Mellencamp
Then we get more. So will smoking. Then Drew still can't tell her kids that she and Ralph are divorcing. I've never heard of this. That you go to court and that a court can tell you that you can't tell your kids that you're getting a divorce if you're getting a divorce. I didn't know that was bad.
Tamara Judge
I don't think that a court should tell you, as long as it's not badmouthing the other parent. How to handle the situation with your.
Teddi Mellencamp
Children, especially when one person is living in the basement and the other is living upstairs, and then they rotate in and out of the house.
Tamara Judge
Kids aren't that young.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, my kids. I mean, I'm in the middle of. Granted, now everything's on a stop. But, like, we nest, which is similar to what they're doing, except Edwin's not living in a basement. Edwin has another house, and he comes. When he comes here to be with the kids, I leave. And it's so the kids can stay.
Tamara Judge
That's the new thing?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, that's the new thing. So the kids can stay in a constant house, or if I. If I feel like it, I stay. Because this is my room. And, you know, I stay here. And it is what it is. But there's no animosity, and we're not fighting. So because of that, it doesn't make it weird. But no court and no lawyer or no. Anyone has told us what we can and can't say to our children. I've never heard of that.
Tamara Judge
Nothing against Drew, but a lot of things just don't always add up with the two of them. Yeah, that's sad. But I remember going through a divorce. And I mean, I. You know, Frank was a divorce attorney. And the thing was, and I remember somebody said to us, you can all be together. You could go on vacations together. You can have your visitation together, whatever it is. As long as you don't fight in front of them.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, you don't want to fight in front of them.
Tamara Judge
And I think that's what destroys kids.
Teddi Mellencamp
Fighting. But also seeing a fight, Seeing a fight start and not seeing a resolution.
Tamara Judge
That too. I mean, we're all human. We're going to fight in front of the kids, but they need to end with it being okay.
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Tamara Judge
So is Edwin dating?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. I mean, I think that we're both in a place where we know that, you know, we will always have love.
Tamara Judge
We're not getting back. Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. We're not getting back together. He's, you know, with somebody I'm dating. Like, it is what it is. It's not our massive priority at this moment. Our main priority is making sure that our kids are happy and that we're healthy. But, like, no, there's no. There's no fighting in front of the kids. And the kids are all very aware of what's going on. What's age appropriate.
Tamara Judge
Right. Like, they need to. Kids. Here's the thing. Kids are smarter than we think they are, and they know more than we want them to know. I've been through divorce with kids, so, you know, I've been through all this.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
Kids know more than we're telling them. So instead of making them come to their own conclusions about things and make them think you never know what's going on in their head, sit down with them and ask them if they have any questions for you. And they're very honest.
Teddi Mellencamp
They're very honest, and they're thrilled to do it. Like, my kids are like, does it hurt our feelings if we talk to you about. And I'm like, absolutely not. It doesn't hurt my feelings. And you shouldn't. I don't ask. Ask certain questions because I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable or make you feel like you can't share with me. But I'm here for whatever you want to share with. And if you have any questions for me, too, ask. And I'm happy to tell you, you know, And I think that's what makes it work. And I think that's what the problem is with Drew and Ralph and pretty much all of these divorces in here. There's so much secrecy.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
There's so an animosity.
Tamara Judge
And it's the animosity. But. But here's the thing that I see and I. And I learned this when I was going through my divorce. Everyone is still emotional, and emotions do not travel in rational channels. So why. While people are emotional, they are also very irrational. So there's not a lot that's going to get done. And that's why, even when filming Teddi, I would wait for things to calm down. I wouldn't try to make a scene or get into a fight. I'd break it up or whatever. But when things are calm, I'll sit with you and talk to you about anything.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Chaos. It's not.
Tamara Judge
But not during the chaos. Not. Not while somebody's angry. I don't need to have the last word because no one's hearing your last word when they're upset. It doesn't matter.
Teddi Mellencamp
True. So before we even get to the event, which we have to talk about, because that event, that paid post event, was a lot. But Portia meets Angela at a rental property. Angela says she didn't invite Portia to her home because Portia said she would. F. Charles. But at this point, this is where we get to like, we've kind of already talked about all the other things, but Angela asked Portia if there are any issues in her friendship with Shamia, and she says Shamia doesn't want to be Portia's lapdog. Angela also says Shamia told her Portia didn't want Shamia on the show. And you visibly see Portia get upset at this moment. What are your thoughts?
Tamara Judge
Hold Angela, because I saw Portia cry with the fan on her face. Case. Shamia told Angela that Portia didn't want her. Where did Shamia say this?
Teddi Mellencamp
She said this at the rental property. Well, Shamia said this. We didn't hear her say this.
Tamara Judge
We didn't hear her see this, because.
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't remember, but I think it's clear. But also, it's not up to Portia who comes on the show and who doesn't come on the show. She's referred Shamia multiple times, I believe.
Tamara Judge
No, we know. First of all, we know nobody can get you really off the show, can they? Unless they want off.
Teddi Mellencamp
But I don't think nobody can really get you on either. You still.
Tamara Judge
They can't. No, they can't.
Teddi Mellencamp
If they want you, they want you. They want you. But I think she feels like Shamia feels like she always has Portia's back and Portia doesn't have hers. And this visibly upsets Portia. Portia's hurt by this. And I feel like there's going to be more to come on this because then we. We zip right on in to their event.
Tamara Judge
I heard they're not friends anymore. I saw on Instagram somewhere.
Teddi Mellencamp
You did? And you know, everything on Instagram's true.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. Well, this week on Instagram. Apparently Paul bought some girl a $25,000 Dior bag.
Teddi Mellencamp
I wanted to know what it looks like.
Tamara Judge
I mean, oh, and the fact that I saw it and I was arguing with him at a restaurant and what else did they say? There's this one that's right next to me holding a sonogram picture because I'm pregnant.
Teddi Mellencamp
Are you having a boy or a girl?
Tamara Judge
I'll let you know. It's too early to tell, but I don't want to. I just. It's hysterical because there's this one account that's absolutely a fucking loony bin. So, yeah, I'll send it to you. It's hysterical.
Teddi Mellencamp
Send it to me. But. So we don't know.
Tamara Judge
I was laughing so hard.
Teddi Mellencamp
But according to the Instagrams of the World Wide Web, they're not friends anymore. But during this event, it's the sister circle. Angela appreciates making up with Portia. Kelly admires Shamia and Portia's friendship and wants them to have a conversation. Shamia says she has never spoken about Portia behind her back and always shuts things down when things come up about Portia. However, Shamia doesn't think Portia does the same. Angela claims she feels like things have been bothering Shamia. And Portia clarifies that she attended. This is what. I was confused. She attended in Atlanta, but not the one in Kenya.
Tamara Judge
And then Porsche is like, well, you know, Kenya is not an easy ride. That's like an 18 hour plane ride.
Teddi Mellencamp
And. And especially if you're not zipping on over on jets or however. Then the girls all start to get a little petty. Like, is this photo not petty?
Tamara Judge
I mean, but I saw like, oh, oh, way to go. Paid photo shoot. Like, sometimes I feel there's a little jealousy.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
Because. Because why wouldn't I want to help out my friend with their product?
Teddi Mellencamp
Like, I wouldn't care like, if I saw. And you held up. But they did do good editing. Like, there's no real picture of what they're promoting. And then at the end, it's like she. They looks like she, like, sneaks in the bag. But they're saying Drew isn't cool with her, so why would Drew be okay doing it? Because you're all in a trash.
Tamara Judge
Wait. First of all, I feel like. Like this is on the heels of Drew finding out they filmed with Ralph and she had a bug up her ass. That's why she was saying it. Because if she's trying to make up with Portia after all this time, which Portia had the right to be upset with her.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, she did.
Tamara Judge
Then I have to say, like, you know, drew, here's your chance. Drop it.
Teddi Mellencamp
Drop it. Hold that bag and be excited.
Tamara Judge
Get the sheets. Put the sheets on the bed. Lay on the bed in your boudoir outfit and your lingerie and just be like, yeah, I'm going to support her. Women should support women. But that doesn't happen much in this.
Teddi Mellencamp
This doesn't happen much, but this is. It ends with. It looks like Porsche is kind of tricking them into doing this paid post thing. But let me be clear. No matter what you are slanging, if you invited me, even if you didn't tell me you were slanging a product, I would happily hold it because I care about you. I would put it on, I would wear it. I don't care what it looked like, if I loved it, if I used it, if it was for you, and you're somebody I care about, even if I was mad at you, I would still do it.
Tamara Judge
It Right. No, me too. Me too. And, you know, I have to say, Jersey's pretty good with that. I'm saying most of the people that I know, you, Tamara people, some. You know, the older cast, I think newer people coming in are more like business.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Which I think is harder for the show. But also, you have an option. You could do one or two things if you want to promote a product. You can either have it be on the show. And good for Portia that it got on the show. The amount of times I gave people stuff and it never actually aired was a lot. But you could also send people product, and then they're gonna post about it.
Tamara Judge
I'm gonna send you my beauty box soon. So, you know.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I've been waiting for it, but, you guys, thanks for tuning in to another episode of Tutties in a Pod. Feel free to send me product, and I will post about it for free.
Tamara Judge
If I like free products.
Teddi Mellencamp
Me too. And I just did a reorganization of all of my things, so I feel ready.
Tamara Judge
You got rid of a lot of stuff.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, I purged. I donated a bunch of stuff.
Tamara Judge
Everyone's purging right now.
Teddi Mellencamp
It's a purge time.
Tamara Judge
All right, well, this was great. I had a great afternoon with you. It's raining here, and New Jersey weather sucks. But what are you doing for the rest of the day?
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, in two days, I have my immunotherapy, but I've got to watch the Valley because you and I are recapping that tomorrow.
Tamara Judge
Oh, got it.
Teddi Mellencamp
But thanks guys for tuning in and we'll talk to you soon.
Tamara Judge
Bye. Ciao.
Teddi Mellencamp
Bye.
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Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: Run Me My Money (RHOA Recap)
Release Date: May 14, 2025
Host/Authors: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Platform: iHeartPodcasts
In the "Run Me My Money (RHOA Recap)" episode of Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge delve deep into the latest happenings of The Real Housewives of Atlanta (RHOA). The episode kicks off with a blend of personal anecdotes and community engagement before transitioning into a comprehensive recap and analysis of the latest RHOA episodes.
[03:23] The hosts begin by addressing fan questions sourced from an Instagram poll, setting an interactive tone for the episode. Teddi introduces the segment by stating, "We have some fan questions and we also have some housewife headlines," inviting listeners to engage with their content.
Notable Quote:
Tamra and Teddi share personal updates, emphasizing the importance of honesty and authenticity in their lives and on the podcast. Teddi opens up about her ongoing treatment, stating, "I was supposed to have my last immunotherapy last Wednesday," highlighting her vulnerability and strength. Tamra complements this by affirming the value of authenticity, "I love authenticity." [09:08] - [11:04]
Notable Quote:
The hosts recount their experience at Wango Tango, sharing heartwarming interactions and behind-the-scenes moments. Teddi praises Meghan Trainor's kindness, saying, "Meghan Trainor is incredibly sweet and kind and loving." They also describe a nostalgic moment involving Cruz playing football with Gwen Stefani's son, illustrating the camaraderie and positive experiences they encounter at events. [12:18] - [13:38]
Notable Quote:
BravoCon's return is a significant highlight of the episode. Teddi expresses her enthusiasm, "I do think that BravoCon is going to come back bigger and better than ever. And I'm excited for this." The discussion includes plans for attending and covering the event, reinforcing their commitment to engaging with the Bravo community. [16:34] - [17:55]
Notable Quote:
The core of the episode revolves around a detailed recap of the latest RHOA episodes. Teddi and Tamra dissect key moments, conflicts, and character developments with insightful commentary.
Kelly's Relationship and Housing Situation
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Ralph and Drew’s Turbulent Relationship
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Angela Shamia's Stability and Integrity
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Portia and Shamia’s Strained Friendship
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The hosts transition into a broader discussion about relationships, divorces, and co-parenting, drawing parallels between their personal experiences and those portrayed on RHOA.
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Wrapping up the episode, Teddi and Tamra reiterate the themes of honesty, support, and growth, both personally and within the RHOA landscape. They express gratitude to their listeners and hint at future episodes focusing on other shows like The Valley.
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The "Run Me My Money (RHOA Recap)" episode offers an in-depth and heartfelt exploration of The Real Housewives of Atlanta, enriched by the personal experiences and genuine insights of Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge. Through candid conversations, the hosts provide listeners with both entertaining recaps and meaningful life lessons, making it a must-listen for RHOA fans and those interested in authentic discussions about relationships and personal growth.
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