Same Storyline, Different Season (RHOBH)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Same Storyline, Different Season (RHOBH)
Release Date: March 4, 2026
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge

Episode Overview

In this vibrant and candid episode, Teddi and Tamra catch up after Teddi’s recent health scare and dive into the latest Real Housewives headlines—focusing on the evolving casts of RHONY and RHOA, plus the latest episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15 (Episode 11). They unpack casting dramas, real-life medical emergencies, social media trolling, and dig into the undercurrents of friendship, divorce, and personal growth with their signature mix of sass and housewives-level insight.

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Teddi’s Health Emergency & Recovery

(03:24–06:29)

• Medical Crisis: Teddi shares a harrowing experience after developing a severe allergic reaction to a new medication, culminating in a hospital stay with Stevens-Johnson Syndrome.
  • Teddi: “I woke up one day and my whole body was just covered... it’s almost like sores, like, I know, like all over my entire body. And they hurt... and they burned.” (04:04)
  • Immediate Action: Urgent care directed her to the ER, leading to emergency treatment with steroids and antibiotics.
• Determination: Teddi was determined to recover in time for her daughter Dove’s birthday.
  • “Please just... I need to leave by 11am on Sunday.” (05:57)
• Reflection: She points out the uncanny fact that she spent her last birthday in the hospital too.

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Housewives Headlines: RHONY, RHOA, and New Faces

(06:29–12:37)

RHONY Season 16 Shake-Up

• New Cast: Sai, Aaron, and Jessel return. Three new members: Haley Glassman (PR pro famously linked to Jon Gosselin), Daisy (Martha Stewart's makeup artist), and Erica (ex-WWE diva, fitness entrepreneur, and billionaire’s wife).
• OG Drama: Carole Radziwill returns after 8 years, prompting mixed feelings about OGs being excluded after some went to E!
  • Tamra: “I think it’s going to backfire now.” (07:25)
  • Teddi: “Do you just wait around till you get that call? Because these calls can come 10 years later.” (07:33)

Haley Glassman Controversy

• Past Online Behavior: Claudia Oshry reveals that Haley trolled her in DMs for years.
  • “Oh, my God, your voice is so annoying. Like Janice from Friends.” (08:22)
• Hosts’ Reactions: Both are blown away by the irony of someone so snarky online now starring on Housewives.

Atlanta Newbie’s Bankruptcy

• Pinky Cole: The owner of Slutty Vegan joins Atlanta but is already embroiled in bankruptcy drama ($1.4 million in debt).
  • Teddi: “Starting out with a storyline and starting out with something to give everybody to talk about.” (10:53)

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BravoCon Theories & Cast Analysis

(11:08–12:37)

• Carole’s Return: Tamra speculates whether Carole’s BravoCon appearance signaled her return or was orchestrated to needle OGs.
  • “Is Bravo that petty? ... Yes.” (11:35)
• Who’s Out: Ubah, Brynn, Rachel, Raquel, and Jenna Lyons are all confirmed as gone from the cast.

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RHOBH S15E11 Recap

(13:25–48:37)

General Impressions

• Mood: Both hosts found the episode “depressing and embarrassing all at once.” (13:45)
• Info Drop: Praised the episode for revealing lots of personal and emotional info from the cast.

Fashion & Shopping in the Hamptons (14:06–16:38)

• Morning Mellowness: The women recover from hangovers with retail therapy.
  • Tamra pokes fun at bed-heads and lack of glam.
• Dorit’s Card Drama: Dorit’s credit card gets declined during a lavish shopping spree (~$5k at Love Shack Fancy).
  • Tamra: “I went to London and spent $10,000 on a bracelet, and my card didn’t decline.” (15:30)

Dorit & PK Mediation, and Kyle’s Critique (20:48–24:03)

• FaceTime with PK: Dorit and PK resolve a custody arrangement with surprising speed.
  • “They went to mediation and just within that day, they figured out their custody arrangement.” (21:03)
• Kyle’s Commentary: Kyle is critical of Dorit, calling her “scattered” and suggesting she may be manic or have OCD.
  • Tamra: “Is this something that’s been admitted by Dorit?... I worry that might bite Kyle in the ass.” (21:43)
• Friendship Facade: The hosts doubt the depth of the on-screen friendship between Dorit and Boz.

Sutton’s Divorce, Annulment, and Betrayal (24:03–25:18)

• Lunch with Jennifer Tilly: Sutton discusses her painful annulment and learns her ex-husband is marrying a mutual friend—news she got from her son.
  • Teddi: “Even if you’re over the person... you find out that news, it relights things up.” (25:12)

Erika Jayne’s Vulnerability (25:34–29:24)

• Therapist Visit: Erika is deeply emotional about her ongoing lawsuits and past abuse.
  • Tamra: “It is the most draining, exhausting, expensive thing you’ve ever been through. Not to mention, this is a 25 million dollar lawsuit.” (26:17)
• Dr. Jenn Mann’s Reality TV Roots: Discussion of recurring reality TV therapists and the unique dynamic of televised therapy sessions.
• Private Suffering: Hosts believe Erika is much more vulnerable off camera than she lets on.

Fashionable Parents, Tardiness, and Social Etiquette (29:27–32:59)

• Rachel Zoe’s Parents: Both hosts rave about their style and presence.
  • Teddi: “I couldn’t even imagine having to be dolled up all the time...” (30:16)
• Dorit’s Chronic Lateness: Both find Dorit’s unreliable timing infuriating but consistent with her character through the years.

Divorce Discussions & Shock Revelations (32:07–34:05)

• Rachel’s Family Dinner: Tensions arise as divorce and separation are openly discussed, with emotion peaking when Rachel’s past indiscretion and Roger’s infidelity come to light.
  • Tamra: “They didn’t look at Roger as a son-in-law, they looked at him as a son.” (32:30)
  • Teddi: “What happened on August 3rd, 4th?” (33:40)

Boz and Keely’s Relationship & Parenting Dynamics (34:20–36:05)

• Marriage & Money: Boz’s partner Keely discusses fertility issues and finances; Boz’s daughter is maturely engaged in these adult conversations.
  • Teddi: “She grew up a little bit faster, and I think she’s just part of the conversation at this point.” (35:58)

Plane Storytelling – “Airplane Man” (40:16–41:50)

• Kyle’s Encounter: Kyle recounts a bizarre airplane pickup attempt via cocktail napkin—a man asks her to shower with him at the airport.
  • “I mean, I don’t even want to shower with my husband.” (40:35, Tamra)
  • “I don’t even want to shower by myself at the airport.” (40:37, Teddi)
• Dinner Debrief: The women laugh about never experiencing such blatant advances.

More Marriage Woes and Amanda’s Low Visibility (43:03–47:59)

• Rachel and Roger: The cast is left wondering about the timeline and meaning of infidelities in Rachel Zoe’s marriage.
• Amanda’s Absence: The hosts joke about Amanda’s near-total absence from the episode (just a nail appointment!) but note her recent Watch What Happens Live appearance where she doubled down on her on-show choices.
  • Teddi: “She goes on and on about why her husband is actually turned on by the fact that she is a breadwinner. So it doesn’t emasculate him.” (45:41)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Returning Housewives:
  • Tamra: “Is Bravo that petty? ... Yes.” (11:35)
• On Haley Glassman’s trolls-to-cast-arc:
  • “Could you imagine trolling somebody… and then you’re on a reality show and then you get outed for it?” (12:52, Tamra)
• On reality TV therapy:
  • Teddi: “It’s not that easy to have a therapist on camera. Not all of them will do it.” (28:12)
• On late housewives:
  • “Dorit lives on Dorit standard time. She’ll show up when she shows up, but she doesn’t care if you’re on a plane and a private jet, and they have to wait. She don’t care.” (31:32, Tamra)
• On Housewives finances:
  • Tamra (re: Amanda): “She says she worked hard for her money, and she’s proud to share that she made it. Well, you’re sharing it, honey.” (46:34)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Teddi’s Medical Emergency: 03:24–06:29
• RHONY & RHOA News + Haley Glassman: 06:29–12:37
• BravoCon & OGs Discussion: 11:08–12:37
• RHOBH S15E11 Recap Start: 13:25
• Shopping/Lateness Drama: 14:06–16:38, 29:27–32:59
• Dorit’s Custody Mediation: 20:48–24:03
• Sutton’s Divorce Woes: 24:03–25:18
• Erika Jayne’s Therapy: 25:34–29:24
• Rachel’s Family Dinner: 32:07–34:05
• Boz & Keely Parenting: 34:20–36:05
• Kyle’s Airplane Story: 40:16–41:50
• Amanda’s Absence & WWHL Comments: 43:03–47:59

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Summary Takeaways

• The hosts blend insider knowledge, humor, and housewives lore, making the episode both gossipy and surprisingly heartfelt.
• The episode’s discussion toggles from the serious (health scares, lawsuits, betrayals) to the ridiculous (DM trolls, airplane come-ons), capturing the full spectrum of Housewives life.
• They set the stage for upcoming housewives drama while giving unsparing, first-hand commentary on what it’s like both in front and behind the Bravo cameras.

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If you missed this episode, you’ll leave this summary feeling like you got the tea, the shade, and a healthy dose of housewives wisdom—served with laughs and realness, courtesy of Teddi and Tamra.

Transcript

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[A]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.

[B]

Good morning, Teddy.

[A]

Good morning. How are you?

[B]

I'm good. The bigger question is, how are you feeling? Can you give us an update on what you've been going through? People have been DMing me. They want to know why you're in the emergency room and then admitted into the hospital. I.

[A]

Well, so I've woken up and I'd. I hadn't felt good for a couple days. I told you guys, like, I was like, I'm feeling a little sick.

[B]

The flu?

[A]

You thought you had the flu? Yeah, I thought I had the flu. And then I woke up one day and my whole body was just covered and like this terrible rat. Like, it's. You can't even say it's a rash because it's like, almost like sores, like, I know, like all over my entire body. And I was like, what? And they hurt. And they hurt and they burned. And so I went to the urgent care first hoping, like, they would just be like, oh, you're having an allergic reaction.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the urgent care doctor immediately was like, no, you need to go to the ER right now. So I went to Tarzana Hospital, and essentially what happened was I was given a medication and like, a new medication, and I was allergic to it.

[B]

Hmm.

[A]

And it caused something that's called Stevens Johnson syndrome, a rare life threatening medical emergency causing severe painful blisters of the skin and mucous membranes.

[B]

And then you said it went into your mouth, right?

[A]

Yeah, it went into my mouth.

[B]

Did it go into your eyes? It.

[A]

Like around my eyes a little bit, but, like, it was just everywhere. And then I couldn't. Then I couldn't swallow, and it just

[B]

was like, so what did they do for you?

[A]

So I went in and they immediately started me on steroids and antibiotics.

[B]

I know how much you love steroids.

[A]

Yeah. So injectable steroids and antibiotics. And then it just. After a couple of days, it just thankfully got better because I guess with these. With these things with. They can. The reason they were like, you have to stay in is because they can start to get better and then shift right back up.

[B]

Oh, that sounds horrible. Well, I'm glad you're better. You got out of the hospital just in time for Dovey's birthday.

[A]

I was so concerned because the doctor hadn't come in that day yet. And I was Like, I had already asked like a thousand times. I'm like, please just. I need to leave by 11am on Sunday.

[B]

Well, how did you feel when you went to her party? Are you still feeling a little.

[A]

It wasn't feeling great, but it just like the adrenaline from just being in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was so happy. I just.

[B]

Because you were in the hospital last year on her birthday.

[A]

Yeah, I was in the hospital last year for her birthday and I. There was no way they were last year.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I'm glad you're better and you're back. So we have some headlines to get into now. The real houses in New York. Season 16 cast has been revealed. Three new ladies join Sai, Aaron and Jessel. So it sounds like they're rebooting the orig.

[A]

The reboot, right? The reboot has been rebooted.

[B]

Yeah. So with Aaron, Jessel and Sai returning, I was shocked when they said Carol would be returning to the show eight years after she last appeared. I thought it was longer than that. Eight years. I thought it was over a decade. I know she is a friend of. I mean, how do you think this is going to make the other OGs feel? Because all they wanted was to come back and that's what everybody's been asking for, but they ended up going to E. I know.

[A]

I think it's going to backfire now.

[B]

Well, it's going to backfire in the sense that Bravo's not ever going to hire him, I would imagine.

[A]

Right? Yeah, that's.

[B]

I mean, but then again, do you just wait around till you get that call? Because these calls can come 10 years later.

[A]

Yeah, it's true. I know, but. And then do you think that it's going to. Do you think people are going to watch both shows at the same time?

[B]

Yeah, I'm curious to see if they air around the same time. That would be weird.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like they're going to. Aren't they both starting up right now?

[B]

Yep. Yep.

[A]

So.

[B]

Well, we have a few newbies and Haley Glassman is one of. A PR professional with over 10 years experience. She made headlines for her relationship with former reality show star Jon Gosselin.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

He's like from Kate plus eight, right?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Is that what it was?

[A]

I mean, not only did she date Jon Goslin yesterday, we found out from Claudia Ashrif, who we love, fellow podcaster, that she starts by saying Erica Hammond is great casting. Claudia went to her message and saw Haley Glassman has been a troll of hers since 2017. First message from her. Oh, my God, your voice is so annoying. Like Janice from Friends. Another one. Damn, you are thin. Another one. Skinny mini. Now you got it. You got to own your Arnold Govy. And the next one, when you need skin. Skin tightening, I'll set you up with a plastic surgeon.

[B]

It's just kind of like, whoa. Like, who does that? Yeah.

[A]

And now they're on.

[B]

And she's in pr. Like, who does that? So then. And then another one. Daisy. She is a makeup artist to Martha. Well, celebrity, but mostly known for Martha Stewart. She's Martha Stewart's makeup artist. We see little. She shares little, you know, things about her work on Instagram. But I'm like, really? And then we have Erica. She's a former WWE diva who co created Rumble Boxing, which I've heard of. Rumble boxing.

[A]

I've done Rumble boxing. It's really great.

[B]

As well as several fitness programs at Equinox. In 2024, she married Billionaire. The founder and CEO of Built in a lavish ceremony. They got married in this lavish ceremony in Egypt. So we got a billionaire.

[A]

She's got money.

[B]

We got a billionaire, a makeup artist, and then we have somebody that was married to John Gosselin. And I will never get that out of my head.

[A]

I don't even think they are married.

[B]

Girls are dated. Okay. Dated.

[A]

Dated.

[B]

They just dated.

[A]

Dated. I don't know. And that's been trolling people online.

[B]

Yeah. And then on other news, there's a newbie in Atlanta. Her name is Pinky. Pinky Cole. She owns Slutty Vegan. They. I feel bad for her. She just started. And she has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy over nearly 1.4 million in debt. They have the court filings. They have everything. Yeah. Like, that's not like, oh, man. Like, you're starting out with a storyline.

[A]

Yeah, starting out with a storyline and starting out with something to give everybody to talk about.

[B]

To give it. Yeah, exactly. So a lot of newbies out there, excited to meet them.

[A]

Well, do you think that Carol. It was writing on the wall when we interviewed her at Bravo Con.

[B]

Trust me, Teddy, I've gone down a rabbit hole. I've been thinking about it, and two things came to my mind. She knew back then that's why she was at BravoCon, that she was gonna be joining the cast. Or they're like, hey, all these OGs going to E. Let's bring Carolyn to piss them off. But I'm like, is Bravo that petty?

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

So I'm like, I don't know which one it is. I Gotta believe she knew because she hasn't been in the game for quite a while and she was invited to Bravo Con. I just don't know where she fits in in this group. Unless. Because a lot of the. The housewives on this show are little kids.

[A]

I know, because. Let's talk about who. So now who's gone?

[B]

So we've got everybody pretty much.

[A]

Yeah. So we've got.

[B]

Uba's gone.

[A]

Bren's gone.

[B]

Bren's gone. And there is Rachel. Raquel. Raquel and Jenna Lions.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, we have quite a few gone. I think Jenna didn't want to come back.

[A]

That's my guess.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think Jenna was done.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, yeah, I mean, I think it'll be good. It's. Change it up. It sounds like these girls are going to cause some drama.

[B]

Well, let's hope so.

[A]

I mean, if you're willing to date John Goslin, you're willing to stir it up a bit. Could you imagine.

[B]

I'm scared for her.

[A]

If that was your one celebrity hookup,

[B]

could you imagine, Imagine trolling somebody, like, literally trying somebody and being so, like, rude and mean, and then you're on

[A]

a reality show and then you get outed for it.

[B]

Oh, my God. She, like, read those dms.

[A]

I'm like, oh, she them. She showed them.

[B]

Maybe we should go to our DMs and see if they were. She was saying nasty things about us.

[A]

I'm sure she was. Who doesn't, right?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, that was. That's.

[B]

That's a doozy.

[A]

That's a real doozy of a sitch.

[B]

Speaking of doozies, we're going to go on to recap. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15 Episode 11 I know we're behind on this, but Teddy was in the hospital, so we couldn't do it. Wow. This episode, I mean, it was depressing at times, wouldn't you say?

[A]

Yeah, I would say it was really hard to watch at times.

[B]

Yeah. So I. I feel like this episode was depressing and embarrassing all. All at once.

[A]

And we got a lot of information.

[B]

We did.

[A]

We did. We got a lot of information from everyone. It starts out in the morning in the Hamptons, and Rachel is trying to cure her hangover.

[B]

I mean, nothing cures a hangover like retail therapy. That is, like, the last thing I want to do if I have a hangover. I. I'm dead to the world. Like, I'm laying in that bed. I'm taking Al. Sir. I'm not going shopping because I'm not even going to brush my hair.

[A]

Well, Dorit didn't.

[B]

There was a few people on that show that didn't brush their hair. Rachel's hair looked like it was bed. Head in the back, Dorit. I don't even know what was going on. It was like, curly underneath, straight. I'm like, what are we doing here?

[A]

You could tell they didn't have glam there for sure.

[B]

I mean, but saying you went shopping with Rachel Zoe, that's kind of a flexible. I love that. That. Kyle comes out, immediately goes, this is Zara. Like, don't you judge me.

[A]

Well, I love Rachel. Pretending that she loves Zara and then telling Kyle her earrings were vintage Chanel had me laughing out loud.

[B]

She's like, oh. And she does this look. She goes, zara's doing some wonderful things. Or something like that. Oh, my God. But Dorit's spending $5,000 and Love Shack, Fancy a store I've never been into. And her car, Dec. Now she says it's a fraud alert, and not because of her spending, but because she's 3,000 miles away. I've gone to New York a million times. I know all credit cards are different, but I've never had anything decline.

[A]

I mean, I think if it's over a certain limit.

[B]

I. I went to London and spent $10,000 on a bracelet, and my card didn't decline.

[A]

Huh.

[B]

Do your bank usually text you right away?

[A]

Yeah, your bank texts you right away. But the thing I also didn't really understand wasn't even her style.

[B]

I know. Did she. I didn't see exactly everything she got, but it's a very kind of florally.

[A]

She loved one outfit enough that she wore it out of the store.

[B]

I'm sh. Shocked they let her do that.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Just because they want you to be. Be cohesive. And if they ever have to jump from one scene, you have to be in the same outfit. Do you think it was. It humbled her? Do you have the cameras in front of her? I'd be devastated.

[A]

No, I. I think she was. She just loved it. She loves to shop, and doesn't matter where she is. She's gonna find, you know, matching child and mom outfits. Yeah, but, like, it's like, she's never been in that store before. I. It's. They're all over la, girl.

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[A]

So, I mean, but I think it does show that, you know, sometimes you just have to have the conversation because apparently they went to mediation and just within that day, they figured out their custody arrangement.

[B]

Not that tough.

[A]

Yeah, it's, you know, every other week from Thursday through Sunday or something like that.

[B]

Yeah. Well, speaking of FaceTime, as we were on a FaceTime with Bose, Kyle explains that Dorit has seemed a little scattered.

[A]

Well, I love that. It made. They made it very clear that Bose called Kyle.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Just because to me, it's always in the details.

[B]

So what did you make of that,

[A]

like, later on when they're going to be like, well, Kyle told Bose it's going to be like Kyle was stirring it. But really, Bose called Kyle.

[B]

Yeah, she said, and I think this is something that might hurt Kyle a little bit. She explains that Dorit has seemed a little scattered and is spending way too much money and says maybe Dorit is manic and has ocd. Is this. Is this something that has been admitted by Dorit? He's throwing around manic and OCD is just afraid that it might bite Kyle in the house.

[A]

Well, I haven't heard that before, but I. What I think they're showing is just such change on. I think that's why we're getting a timestamp every single time they go anywhere. Like, and they're making jokes like, we're on Dorit time, and, you know, Dorit's at the airport. She forgets her real.

[B]

Has been like this forever. Yeah, we're always on Dorit time and she's always overspending. So I Don't like. I don't see a difference in that.

[A]

Yeah, except the difference is her life has significantly changed.

[B]

Well, how about when Bose thinks in her confessional that maybe Kyle needs to take her own advice?

[A]

Bose just has. Has it in for Kyle a little bit.

[B]

I wonder why. It seems like they're doing better this year.

[A]

I think Kyle criticizing Dorit to bows, of all people, was really a choice.

[B]

Oh, that wasn't smart. Yeah. Yeah, that was not smart. I just don't. Bose and Dorit. I just don't see that friendship for some reason. I don't know why.

[A]

And also, they never show them really together hanging out.

[B]

No. A couple times, maybe.

[A]

So it's like we're supposed to believe this tight friendship, but we never don't.

[B]

You feel sometimes, like on reality tv, like the closer you are sometimes they always want to separate you because they know nothing's going to go on there.

[A]

Yeah, they know.

[B]

Unless it's a little recap.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I know. But I still. I still want to know a little bit more about their relationship because Bose rides hard for Dorit.

[B]

He does. Yeah, she really does. Then we have Jennifer and Sutton meet for lunch.

[A]

And. Hi, I'm Jennifer Tilly, and I'm gonna bring a cat purse.

[B]

Was that a purse? I'm like, why is there a cat on the table?

[A]

It was like, ceramic.

[B]

Yes. It looks around like my child made. But Sutton talks about her conversation with Porter regarding. Regarding her endowment. I. Does Sutton really care about the annulment, do you think. Do you think it's really bothering her?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I think it is.

[B]

She had to be stripped of that last name or. Because her marriage didn't ever was existed when it's annulled.

[A]

Well, we learned new information today. Well, I learned new information this episode when Jennifer says, well, Sutton's, you know, ex husband is with her. One of her best friends.

[B]

Marrying one of her friends.

[A]

Yeah, Marrying one of her friends that's got. And the way she found out was through her son. So I'd imagine it's, you know, a multitude of things. Like if. Even if you're over the person that you were married to, you find out that news, it relights things up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because then it feels like, dirty.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, what friend would do that?

[A]

Yeah. Like she said, they raised their sons together.

[B]

Yikes. Ouch. Ouch.

[A]

So I think between that having to change her name, having to talk to her kids about it.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, her daughter was. Was supportive and didn't, you know, told

[A]

her, like, no, like, didn't even bat an eye.

[B]

No, no. She was just supportive of her mother. And then Erica has her therapist over and breaks down admitting how tired she is. I feel horrible for Erica. If you put yourself in her situation, it's a lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit. And then on top of this, this abuse she's talking about, all of it is horrible. If you've ever been in a lawsuit, it is the most draining, exhausting, expensive thing you've ever been. Not to mention, this is a 20, what? A 25 million dollar lawsuit.

[A]

And this is one of many.

[B]

One of many. And then after she leaves Tom, she gets in a relationship that is abusive. I mean, this girl has just been beat down physically and mentally.

[A]

Yeah, it's just been non stop. But I, I think she really showed her softer side with her therapist here. Like, I don't think.

[B]

Yes. And it's something she doesn't do a lot of.

[A]

Yeah. And I think it's, you know, her even hearing her being like, you know, this is just hard. You know, normally she's so strong and she's just like, it's fine, I'll get through it. You know, she just blows through it. But she's just like, this is hard. And what kind of life is this? And, you know, I liked the therapist in this moment when she kind of called her out on the good things that are happening in her life.

[B]

How do you feel the good things when things are so bad? That's. That's hard.

[A]

It's really hard. Yeah, it's really hard.

[B]

You would know.

[A]

Yeah. I think that Erica is incredibly strong, but I think that just this would get to anybody.

[B]

Oh, I think she's strong because she puts up, you know, that she said

[A]

she's been doing it since.

[B]

She's been doing it forever. And I have a feeling, you know, when she's alone, she's not that strong. So those of you that think Dr. Mann looks a little bit familiar, she's known for hosting VH1's Couple Therapy and Family Therapy. She's appeared on a bunch of reality shows.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How do you feel about a therapist on reality shows? One that's like, like over and over, different popping over, different shows. We saw that on Housewives too, remember? Was it like Atlanta Potomac?

[A]

Yeah. We saw like the same guy popping over from each one. Well, I think at first when we first saw her and Erica, which I believe it was like two or three years ago, I kind of thought, oh, gosh, a celebrity therapist. But now I think she actually sees her.

[B]

Yeah. Well, for those of you that don't know, it's not that easy to have a therapist on camera. Yeah, not all of them will do it.

[A]

So I think that she actually sees her. I think she knows her story because she was very good at multiple times saying things like, well, this is your life and this is what's not going to change, or these are the good things. And, you know, she knew right away what Erica was talking about when she brought up the abuse.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, I mean, that still breaks my heart just hearing that, like, going through all those things, looking for somebody for comfort, and then them being abused.

[B]

People are speculating on Instagram who it is.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I mean, yikes.

[A]

Do you think it is?

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Who do you think it is?

[B]

I don't have no idea. I don't know who she's dated. I mean, I haven't seen her other than with this new guy pictures. I mean, I know there was an attorney that was linked to her, but she said it was a friend, so who knows? She keeps her. Her dating life very private.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know who it is, but it's definitely very.

[B]

Yeah, that's sad.

[A]

It's sad.

[B]

Rachel's family arrives at her Hamptons home. But shocker, guess who's running late to read.

[A]

Is running late.

[B]

Yep. Which Kyle thinks is super rude, considering Rachel's parents were there and they're staying at the house now. Here's the thing. I've never seen more, like, fashionable parents than Rachel Zoe's parents.

[A]

I know. And when they showed the flashback photos,

[B]

would she call her Elizabeth Taylor? Yeah, I totally see it. Totally.

[A]

And you know those moms that, like, are never in sweats, always done out,

[B]

but I thought about myself. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm one of those moms. I'm always in sweats.

[A]

I'm always in sweats. Like, we're sweatpants moms.

[B]

Yes, I know.

[A]

I couldn't even imagine having to be dolled up all the time, but, I

[B]

mean, I don't know why they're shocked. Dorit's late. She's always late. I mean, it's one of my pet peeves. I can't stand it. It's so rude and inconsiderate.

[A]

I mean, do you remember when your friend Teddy made Drake being Dre being late a storyline?

[B]

Right? I know.

[A]

And it's now repeated every season.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't help it. Trendsetter.

[B]

I know, right? But I think we're both like that. Like, I cannot stand to be late.

[A]

No I cannot stand to be just sitting there wasting time.

[B]

Do you think that maybe Dorit runs. Her credit card was declined because she runs late on payments too. What about.

[A]

But also, I love that they're like. The problem is Dorit doesn't feel like her outfit is, you know, summer enough or fall enough or whatever. And then she came down in like a black love shack, fancy outfit that she just.

[B]

Was that one of them?

[A]

I think so. And I was just.

[B]

I don't think they have black. Everything's like flowers and pinks and blues and.

[A]

But it didn't even make sense, whatever it was that she was saying that she was missing.

[B]

I don't know. I think we just all know that Dorit lives on Dorit standard time. Yeah, she'll show up when she shows up, but she doesn't care if you're on a plane and a private jet and they have to wait. She don't care. She do not care.

[A]

She's under retime. But then. But then she's like, you know, so overly welcome. When she does get there, then it's almost forgotten.

[B]

Gotta love her. Yeah, you gotta love her. Rachel's family sits with the women for wine and discusses divorce and separation in the group. That's always like a icebreaker, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At one point, Rachel's mom makes a comment about how we. How good of a person Roger is, which leads to Rachel getting emotional in her confessional. And that's got to be hard because I was thinking as I was watching this, like, my family is so close to Eddie. Like, if something were to happen, they would be devastated. Yeah, devastated.

[A]

I mean, what about when she said they didn't look at Roger as a son in law, they looked at him as a son.

[B]

Rachel said that? Yeah. And that's kind of how my family is with Eddie. Like, they even said, something happens. We're getting ready. You. We're keeping Eddie. Yeah. Thanks, mom and dad.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, but I think that it really, you know, this scene kind of showed so much of, like, how long those two have been together and what they've gone through.

[B]

A long time. I mean, they've been together, like close to 30 years or something. Yeah.

[A]

But also then I got confused when we heard the story about Rachel hooking up with somebody right before they got. The day before they got engaged.

[B]

I forgot about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They were together four years and Rachel had a thing with one of her models or something like that.

[A]

Yeah, one of the models.

[B]

And Roger found out and he proposed that day. And who was it? Somebody Goes, maybe it was Kyle. Well, that's a great way to start out a relationship. Or, you know, like, wow, that's.

[A]

I mean, that's intense.

[B]

I know. Wow, wow, wow, wow.

[A]

But I want to know what happened on August 3rd, 4th. Because that's what caused Rachel.

[B]

She wasn't. Yeah. I feel like something bad happened because she's not talking about it.

[A]

Yeah. So maybe he cheated. Maybe he. You know, something like that. Because, I mean, clearly, I'm just speculating, but what else happens that you can't come back from?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, something clearly bad happened, and she's keeping it quiet. I don't know. Then we see Bose Keely and her daughter meet for dinner. Now they are. Where were they? Were they in San Diego, too?

[A]

It seemed.

[B]

Well, there was everybody in San Diego.

[A]

I know what was like, they ever cast Trip that nobody met up at. Yeah, yeah. Because her daughter was driving to San Diego.

[B]

Yeah. And then. Or Keely tells Bose his intentions with marriage and their future and talks about fertility issues and all these things. And he actually advised her to, like, maybe take a break. Maybe her body needs a break. And then Keely said he. If he lost his job, would she still stick around? You see her go,

[A]

well, I thought it was a weird time to ask that question. And then at the end, he was like, well, you know, I'll. Don't worry, I'll still make my own money.

[B]

It's probably not the smartest thing to say on national tv because everybody knows that she's got a lot of money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So now it's like, well, if I quit my job, are you okay with that? Yeah. I mean, he cleaned it up with. I mean, I think in his mind, maybe he thought that's the worst thing that he could do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know.

[A]

I mean, but he is like, there are things that really got to me that happened, like when he pulled out the chairs and, you know, pushed them in and, like, Bose was like, you know, these are things that my daughter has missed because her dad passed away.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now she's able to see them for the first time.

[B]

Do you think this was an appropriate conversation to have around her daughter?

[A]

Well, I think because her daughter has been, you know, by her side this entire time through all of the. The good, the bad, the ugly.

[B]

Yeah. She grew up a little bit faster.

[A]

She grew up a little bit faster, and I think she's just part of the conversation at this point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think, you know, she didn't seem taken aback by it even, you know earlier on when Bose told her that the eggs didn't work, you know, she told her daughter and her daughter's like, I know this is. That's a bummer. You know, like did they were.

[B]

Yeah. Daughter's not young. Young.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

I've heard.

[B]

The storytelling napkin.

[A]

Yeah. Ew, I know. So Rachel, Dorit and Kyle are off to dinner. While in the car, Kyle tells them the story about her airplane man who hit on her with a cocktail napkin and asked her to shower with him in the airport.

[B]

I mean, I don't even want to shower with my husband.

[A]

I don't even want to shower by myself at the airport.

[B]

I didn't even know you could shower at the airport.

[A]

But also I want to know, like, what would she have done, gone in there that they supply towels?

[B]

I don't know, is it like a.

[A]

Are you drip dry and then you put your. Your outfit back on?

[B]

I mean, I don't know you, but would you like to take a shower?

[A]

I don't know you, but I mean, would you like to go home to your family or go take a shower?

[B]

Oh, yeah. I would love to take a shower with you. By the way, what's your name? So stupid.

[A]

By the way, at least you're sitting first class. But I need more info.

[B]

Right? Here's the question I have. Like, at what point did he write this? And how long did she have to sit there in first class with a guy that wants to shower her?

[A]

Well, I also want to know, were they right next to each other? Was he a couple seats back?

[B]

I would have to move.

[A]

I would be so embarrassed. And then what happens when you're getting off? You, like, make eyes if you want to shower together. If you don't want to shower together. You're just like, nice to meet you. Enjoy your shower with somebody else.

[B]

Oh, weird.

[A]

It's so weird. So weird.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

But at dinner, Rachel said it happens all the time. Oh, yeah. Rachel goes, this happens all the time.

[B]

Never happened to me. Should I be offended? I probably punch the guy off.

[A]

Yeah. Like, ew.

[B]

I probably would have got up on the aisle and read it in front of everybody. Does anybody want to take a shower with this man?

[A]

Yeah, he's interested. I mean, and how did he write it? Like, would you want to shower with me? Like, in. In between? Like, where it says united. Like, he's gonna have to write it there. I mean, I don't understand.

[B]

It's gross. It's gross.

[A]

I don't like it. But at.

[B]

At dinner, Rachel explains that today was the day of the anniversary when their relationship blew up. Roger straight up told her what he did when he was in Aspen. So obviously he cheated.

[A]

Yeah, I think. I think it's got to be that.

[B]

And then. Yeah. I mean, it ended with little, like, what Kyle's face was like, wait a minute, What? You were hooking up with one of your models, and then he cheated? Like, what is going on in this relationship?

[A]

Yeah. And what is it? I think. And it left us all thinking, what is it that Roger did that. That. Because I didn't realize that they were reconciling getting back together. Reconciling getting back together until she.

[B]

I didn't either.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It sounds like there's some infidelity in this relationship and they had to get out of there.

[A]

I mean, it is so wild to think about that, because I would say, like, you know, throughout the years, I'd always see, you know, Rachel and Roger at, like, you know, coachella events and those types of things, and they were always hand in hand, like, seemed super happy. So I. I mean, it's just relationships, they can crack, and it's just when it happens, it's scary. It's scary. But the fact that all three of them are sitting there talking about it and then, like, you know, Dorit's, of course, adding in her 2 cents. And then they're like, what? Kyle's still in a good thing with her? You know, separation.

[B]

What is she.

[A]

I think so. I mean, she gets along with.

[B]

I know, but nobody wants to be separated. Nobody wants to go through a divorce. Like, no. I mean, at least they're on decent terms.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I know. I definitely don't want to be. It's not fun. It's not fun. At all. But, I mean, I thought it was a good episode. But then can we talk a little bit about Amanda?

[B]

I'm sorry, Amanda who? I didn't see her in this episode.

[A]

That's why I wanted to talk about her.

[B]

Because she got her nails done with her daughter, I think, or something like that. Her daughter got her nails done and. And that was it. Yeah. That's all you get, folks.

[A]

Well, I watched on Watch what Happens Live.

[B]

That's so funny that she was actually on Watch what Happens Live that night. Because she was non existent on the episode.

[A]

Yeah, we didn't see her at all in the episode. And then she's on Watch what Happens Live. Then apparently she's at the hotel, runs into Gold. Nessa has no idea who she is.

[B]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[A]

Has no idea who she is.

[B]

How do you know this?

[A]

Because it was on Watch what Happens Live.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And then she pretty much stands by everything that she's done so far. And, I mean, it made me like her a little bit more. But she goes on and on about why her husband is actually turned on by the fact that she is a breadwinner. So it doesn't emasculate him. He's turned on by what?

[B]

Is she gonna say? My husband hates it?

[A]

But also, I didn't even know they weren't married.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah, they're, like, planning a wedding.

[B]

Wait, they're not married? I guess not.

[A]

They're planning a wedding.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah. She said, it's the one time I'm ever gonna do this. And. Yeah.

[B]

They have three kids together.

[A]

I know. And then they were gonna. She. Because Andy asked her, how much are you gonna spend at the wedding? And she's like, well, I mean, I'm not gonna go through an exact number, but.

[B]

Oh, yes, she will.

[A]

Oh, yes, she will. I mean, he said, do you regret saying that you spent $10,000 on Crystal? And she's like, nope.

[B]

Hey, teach their own.

[A]

She's like, I worked hard for my money, and I'm proud to share that I. That I made it. I'm like, well, you're sharing it, honey. But Andy looked like he liked her a lot.

[B]

He said good things about her.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they couldn't even understand what the game was about. So I think that there's something amazing like they were playing a game. Like, it was almost like, never have I ever. Never. You know what? Never have I ever. Or something like that. And they could not get it. They could not get that it was

[B]

the audience who was she on with Gigi. Oh, she was on with Gigi.

[A]

Yeah. And then Gigi had two of her other cast members in the audience. In the audience, huh? And she had Tannen and Natasha on, and they were just like, every time Andy would ask them a question, they would put their heads down like, oh, no, I don't even want to hear this. Because, like, Gigi really went for it.

[B]

She said she always goes for it.

[A]

Yeah. Like, said things like, you know, double down on why. Why her ex should pay her for alimony even though they were married for seven days. She's already.

[B]

The girl believes in what she believes in.

[A]

Yeah. She's already had a falling out with sky again, and she threw water or

[B]

wine on her, so I'm. I don't see them making up anytime soon.

[A]

And then she says she thinks they're going to get a divorce.

[B]

Guy and her husband.

[A]

Yeah. She said, yeah, Scott. She goes, scott's husband is treated so poorly that I think.

[B]

But he puts up with it. And it's probably like, you know, some guys are very strong and some guys are just like. Like, let the woman do whatever and kind of weak and not saying he's weak, but it doesn't. He's like, whatever. This is her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love her for the good parts. She wants to be an ass. Yeah. I'll go to parties without her.

[A]

Yeah. Well, do you think Amanda get got paid for that episode? I mean, she just puts painting some nails for herself.

[B]

I would imagine she did whatever episode you're in.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. I thought it was a good episode. They're bringing it up. They're bringing it back.

[B]

Yeah. Thanks, guys, for tuning in to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod.

[A]

I will talk to you soon.

[B]

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