Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy (RHOM Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy" (RHOM Recap)

Date: August 7, 2025

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Overview

In this lively episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge recap Season 7, Episode 9 of The Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM)—a self-described “filler episode,” but one that still sparks plenty of commentary, tangents, and trademark Two Ts candor. The duo weaves in candid health updates, TV obsessions (hello, Yellowstone), and their signature behind-the-scenes housewife perspective. They discuss key RHOM storylines—ranging from friendship feuds and apologies to private jet drama—while seamlessly mixing in personal anecdotes, pop culture chatter, and cheeky humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tamra’s Health Update and Coping with Uncertainty

• 00:44–06:00
  • Tamra opens up about feeling unwell and being on edge awaiting results to determine if she can receive another round of immunotherapy.
  • Teddi offers encouragement, and they discuss the challenge of waiting for significant health news.
  • Tamra seeks pillow recommendations for comfort due to neck and back pain.
  • Quote:
    • Tamra: “Yeah, I think it's nervous energy... that waiting around feeling, you know, when you're just—” (04:00)

2. TV Tangents: Entering the World of Yellowstone

• 06:06–07:00
  • Tamra started Yellowstone for the first time, and Teddi predicts Tamra is about to become "obsessed."
    • Quote:
      • Teddi: “You're gonna save a horse and ride a cowboy.” (06:18)
  • They swoon over the show's characters—especially Casey and Beth—and discuss favorite one-liners.

3. RHOM Recap: Season 7, Episode 9

• 07:04–44:12

A. Filler Episode Vibe

• Both note it was “very much a filler episode" with less drama than usual and a slower pace to the storyline.
  • Quote:
    • Tamra: “Very much a filler episode. Starts off... not much going on.” (07:12)

B. Marisol & Adriana: Body Shaming and Apologies

• Marisol and Julia lunch; Adriana tension:
  • Conflict over past body-shaming accusations resurfaces.
  • Teddi reflects on her own remarks being misconstrued as fat-shaming and clarifies intent.
    • Quote:
      • Teddi: “I was simply saying I feel like she's obsessed… with being on the show.” (07:44)
    • Tamra: “Transforming herself by doing the things that involve you so she could get on the show?” (08:52)
• Adriana attends Marisol’s party to apologize, admitting she was wrong—a rare moment of resolution in the group.
  • Teddi: “I was happy that Adriana could admit she was wrong and apologize. I mean, these are. This is what the show's about.” (18:24)

C. Alexia’s Heartbreak & Spain Trip Plotline

• Marisol tries to plan a supportive trip for Alexia to Spain amid Alexia's breakup with Todd.
• Tamra jokingly dubs the episode “F. Todd,” expressing her frustration with Todd’s presence in the story.
  • Quote:
    • Tamra: “I want to call this episode F. Todd… F. Todd and his birthday.” (17:44)

D. Doggy Brothel & Lighthearted Moments

• Adriana and Lisa bring a dog to a “doggy brothel” before neutering, sparking amusement and confusion.
  • Tamra: “Is a doggy brothel like a real thing? There was a lot of humping going on.” (18:03)

E. Gertie’s Cancer Journey & Intimacy Struggles

• Gertie calls Dr. Jackie Walters for advice on navigating intimacy with her husband during cancer treatment.
• Tamra personally relates, discussing changes in sex drive, energy, and self-image during health struggles. The conversation turns candid and humorous, involving stories about sex toys and vibrators.
  • Tamra: “When you're not feeling your best… your sex drive changes. Plus, you know, once we—” (19:04)
  • Memorable moment: Teddi’s sex shop story, buying “three things,” all rose gold (20:27–21:33)

F. Julia’s Relationship Drama & Self-Centered Demeanor

• Speculation about Julia having an affair with Captain Sandy; hosts doubt the rumor’s credibility, instead characterizing Julia as self-absorbed—especially given her strained relationship with her daughters and failing to communicate her adoption plans.
  • Teddi: “She did open up about her daughters not having a good relationship with them… they’re not happy about the adoption.” (24:48)
  • Tamra: “I think that Julia might just be a little self Consumed.” (25:05)

G. Gertie vs. Julia: Water-Throwing & Group Dynamics

• Rehashing the infamous water-throwing scene; post-cancer empathy for Gertie.
  • Tamra: “Gertie's just come through cancer… they throw water in her face. And then she just sits there and takes it… Imagine that.” (26:57)
• No one in the group stood up for Gertie, which the hosts found troubling.

H. Marisol’s “Preppy” Lunch, Clique Drama, and Regifting

• Discussion about Marisol’s “preppy lunch” party theme.
• Kiki told Marisol that Gertie called her and Alexia “a cult”—the hosts note it was probably meant as “clique.”
• Jokes about regifting.
  • Teddi: “Don’t we all regift at some point?” (30:34)

I. Private Jet Mind Games & Beverly Hills Comparisons

• Stephanie’s private jet antics: She can only bring four people to Spain, leading to competitive “jet seat” drama and mind games, which the hosts call out as classic “housewifery.”
  • Tamra: “She plays like a mind game… seeing if one of them will pick the jet over their friendship… which I thought was weird.” (39:17)
• They compare it to similar scenarios on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Orange County.
• Practical reflections on private jet travel vs. flying first class or JSX.

4. Bonus Tangents & Behind-the-Scenes

• 44:12–50:01

A. Housewife Gossip: Denise Richards & Brandi Glanville

• Rumor mill: Denise Richards is spotted filming again, possibly for a cast trip. Tamra shares anecdotes about Aaron, Denise’s husband, being “uncomfortable” to film with.
  • Tamra: “I don't want to use the word hostile, but it was definitely to the point where I was like, hey, uncomfortable. Don’t talk to me that way.” (46:16)
• Brandi Glanville’s ongoing health saga: Her attempt to cure “face parasites” with Nair, leading to a chemical burn. Both hosts express sadness and concern.
  • Tamra: “It just seems like self-diagnosing yourself by adding Nair to your face… is not the smartest plan.” (48:10)
  • Teddi: “Watching it makes me feel sad… her face is like disfigured now... that’d be—” (48:46)

B. Wrap-up Banter

• Tamra heads to a doctor’s appointment; closing with some raunchy jokes about where one should use Nair.
  • Teddi: “Can I put it on my cooch?”
  • Tamra: “Sure. Burn that bush.” (50:01)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You’re gonna save a horse and ride a cowboy.” – Teddi (06:18)
• “I want to call this episode F. Todd. I’m done with F. Todd. F. Todd.” – Tamra (17:44)
• “Gertie’s just come through cancer… they throw water in her face. And then she just sits there and takes it...” – Tamra (26:57)
• “It just seems like self-diagnosing yourself by adding Nair to your face… is not the smartest plan.” – Tamra (48:10)
• [On being recognized at the sex shop] “Teddy, you need to concentrate on your children and your health. You shouldn't be masturbating.” – Teddi, imagining tabloids (21:48)
• “Can I put it [Nair] on my cooch?” – Teddi
  “Sure. Burn that bush.” – Tamra (50:01)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Health Update & Coping: 03:42–06:00
• Yellowstone Tangent: 06:06–07:00
• RHOM Recap Opens: 07:04
• Body Shaming / Adriana-Marisol: 07:14–08:58
• Alexia’s Spain Trip/Todd: 17:00–17:53
• Doggy Brothel: 18:03–18:10
• Gertie, Dr. Jackie, and Sex Post-Cancer: 18:49–22:29
• Julia’s Self-Absorption & Family Drama: 24:48–26:32
• Water-Throwing Scene: 26:57–28:04
• Preppy Lunch & Clique Drama: 28:48–30:34
• Jet Drama: 38:52–42:49
• Beverly Hills/Air Travel Comparison: 43:38–44:12
• Denise Richards/Brandi Glanville Gossip: 44:40–49:20

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Final Tone

Upbeat, unfiltered, and irreverent—true to Teddi and Tamra’s “Housewives, recapping Housewives” style. Their blend of gossip, real-life vulnerability, and industry savvy makes even a “filler” episode sparkle with wit and relatability.

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Takeaway

Even when the Bravo drama is light, Teddi and Tamra bring the personality, honesty, and inside scoop—offering plenty for Housewives fans and reality TV newcomers alike.

Transcript

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Two teas in a Pod with Teddy.

[Honey German]

Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hey, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two Te's in a Pod with myself and Teddy Mellencamp. Hi, Teds.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi.

[Sponsor Voice (Josh Cellars)]

Looking a little down today.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not down. I just don't feel. Feel great. I'm back on one of the medications, but today I go in to find out if I get another round of immunotherapy. So I'm just. I'm ready to power through this episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you. Are you nervous right now? Is this like, are you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I think it's nervous energy. And so then when I. It's like that anxiety that comes out. So it's. It's more just like the. That waiting around feeling, you know, when you're just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I haven't been in your position, but waiting around for anything. Good news, bad news, anything. It's like, it's the worst feeling in the world for me.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because you can't control it. You can't control it. Just tell me right now. So a scan is going to be able to tell you if you have to do immunotherapy.

[Tamara Judge]

It's going to tell me. They're doing blood work and scans, but it's going to tell me if I need. If my. If I'm strong enough to get another round of immunotherapy. I know in general, I'm going to need more immunotherapy. I just don't know if I'm going to need it today.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I'm sure you're hoping, like, hopefully maybe next month. Like, I'm. You're feeling better and you're. I see you doing your walks, and you're out on your walk this morning with your little boy, and it just like, I. I love seeing that. And I know that you're like, I don't want to go back to.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't want to go back to feeling yucky. But I also, you know, I want to. I want to get Better, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But you want to get through this.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So it's like. Okay, well, let's.

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[Tamara Judge]

I need a new fancy pillow, so, you guys, can you send some recommendations? I need, like, something that, like, really cups the neck and is, like, soft and, like. I don't know if it's a body pillow. What it is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is your neck hurting or your back hurting?

[Tamara Judge]

My neck and my lower back from.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Laying down a lot.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know this sounds creepy, but maybe get one of those old lady recliners.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you mean like the one you have?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't have it. I gave it to my mom. I gave it to the older lady.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, maybe I need to get one of those recliners.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They're actually so comfortable. Okay, maybe I will, because I have bad lower back. So when I had surgery, I was. I had to get that because my back hurt so bad all the time that. At least you're kind of propped up and it's comfy. You can even rent them.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, know what? I. I saw the rental place, and I was tempted to do it, but know what I started last night?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What?

[Tamara Judge]

Yellowstone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

From the beginning.

[Tamara Judge]

From the beginning.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You've never seen Yellowstone.

[Tamara Judge]

I've never seen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. You're gonna be obsessed, and you're gonna.

[Tamara Judge]

Want a cowboy, but how long?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You're gonna save a horse and ride a cowboy.

[Tamara Judge]

How long until I get obsessed? Everybody's saying I have to wait till episode four. Yeah, I think the main. Like, the guy. The sun is so hot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Casey. No. Is it Casey?

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[Tamara Judge]

Casey? Yes. Not that you know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, not that I know. Casey is hot. And then Beth.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I love her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I. I just idolize her. Like the effortlessly, the. The one liners that come out of her mouth.

[Tamara Judge]

Even in the first episode when she's kind of coming at the people in the board meeting, I was like, oh, oh, just wait.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It gets good. I would. That's one show that I will re. Watch. I will watch it again.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, well, maybe you need to come over and we need to have just a watch day, and we'll start.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, let's just talk about real houses in Miami. Season seven, Episode nine, Very Much a filler episode.

[Tamara Judge]

Very much a filler episode starts off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not much going on.

[Tamara Judge]

Not much going on. Marisol gets lunch with Julia. Marisol feels that Adriana can't keep picking at her, both with the flags at the narcissist party and the body shaming on the boat. And then Maricel calls her not the body shaman.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not the fatty picture.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can we just talk about this just a minute? Never did I ever. Did I ever say it was a fatty photo. Ever did I ever.

[Tamara Judge]

Every single person called it that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, we'll find out eventually who decided to reference it as a fatty photo. I was just simply saying I feel like she's obsessed. What I. What I meant was, because I didn't. Couldn't break the fourth wall. Obsessed with being on the show. Yeah, obsessed with being on the show to where she was going to all these things, you know, DMing me back in 2013 and all, you know, like, wanted to be in my life and do all these things. And I said she was. She looked totally different. And Heather made a comment like, oh, like that. And I go, she was heavier then. I was. I was heavier at that time.

[Tamara Judge]

I have been too. A million.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I've been heavier.

[Tamara Judge]

Didn't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I've never been. Like. I wouldn't say I was fat, but.

[Tamara Judge]

You mean, like, say fat. No one can say fat.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I didn't say that. But let's find out who's saying it. But I'm. What I'm saying is, like, I'm. I'm lighter right now. I was heavier last year. Like, to me, that's not saying somebody's fat. Especially when someone's thin. Like 5, 10 pounds on someone that's relatively thin is not fat shaming. Like, our weights go up and down. But it was more about transforming herself. So it's like, oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

Transforming herself by doing the things that. Yeah. Involve you so that she could get on the show. That's what you're trying to imply.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes, exactly.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And guys, catch me on.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Make sure you go, listen to Tam. She's. Oh, my. I. Now my new phrase is going to be, I'd rather deep throw the cactus.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. We get a little glimpse of Sophia, who just cut her own hair into a pixie cut. I know.

[Tamara Judge]

We're twinning.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Why won't she go pink so we can fully be twins and then we can really drive you nuts.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she wanted something, you know, she's like you. She changes her hair all the time, colors it different colors, bleaches it. It's dark, it's pink, it's red. And it was so dead from doing it for so many. But it looks adorable.

[Tamara Judge]

My mom looks so cute. I love how, like, out and out and about she is these days.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's talking about moving to New York to go to School now. I mean, she's got this amazing boyfriend that she does.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't even know about.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Nico. Nico.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, I need to meet Nico.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's so cute. And he's like, you know, she's very vintage and her style. And she, like, she wanted to be Wynonna writer in the 90s with that little pixie cut.

[Tamara Judge]

It looks. I think it looks great.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it does looks cute.

[Tamara Judge]

She.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Her boyfriend is very. He dresses very seventies.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And he's artsy. He's a photographer. He act. They met, actually. She was doing some gig. She was singing at some place, and he was the photographer there, and that's how they met.

[Tamara Judge]

Can you have her send me some of her songs, please?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I will. And then she told me the other day.

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know if I told you this. I think my frontal lobe is developing. I said, what the hell are you talking about?

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

She goes, I looked at a kid the other day and I thought, God, he's so cute.

[Tamara Judge]

Look how cute.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because she's always, I don't want kids, I don't want to get married. None of that. Right. And now all of a sudden, she's like, oh, kids are so cute. I go, that's because you're in love.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's because.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Go back to thinking they're. They're nasty. I don't want any.

[Tamara Judge]

You know. No. Like, we don't need to have kids right now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We don't need to have kids right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's figure. You don't need to be a Grandma. Point. How many? Point? Zero? 2.0. I'm already a grandma. I know. That's what I meant. Yeah. Here's the thing about being a great gift giver. When you find something truly perfect for everyone on your list, you almost don't want to give it away.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what happened with my quince order. Everything's so soft and well made. I'm seriously tempted to keep all of it for myself.

[Tamara Judge]

Quince pretty much has your whole list covered. Mongolian cashmere sweaters for $50 when you'd normally pay $200 or more than the kind you'll wear on repeat.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then there's the denim that goes with everything.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

Then. You know, Marisol, we getting back. We, we, we like to go on tangent. Guys, we can't help.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We gotta add to this episode. We really do. And let me just tell you, people have reaching out to me because our, our episode dropped and they're like, no, I love to hear you guys talk about your personal stuff.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, good. Yeah, good. Well, because we don't have much.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Same shit. Marisol wants to do something for Alexia and plans a trip for her. During this tumultuous time with Todd, they call Alexia about going to Spain. She says yes on the condition and this, the timing. It was like to dent it out. As long as she can be back for Todd's birthday, she's just at this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Point, not over him, you know, you remember when we saw her in San Francisco, she was like, she was very hurt and upset. I think she is now because I just spent time with her. She is now over him.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I mean, at this point, once she said that, I would have been like, I'm gonna book the trip directly during birthday.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, you know, there's nothing you can do when someone's not over someone. There's nothing you can do. You can't force it. Just let her go through.

[Tamara Judge]

But I. This is. I want to call this episode F. Todd. I'm done with F. Todd. F. Todd.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Todd and his birthday.

[Tamara Judge]

Yep. Then Adriana and Lisa bring Adriana's dog to a doggy brothel before he gets neutered.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is a doggy brothel like, a real thing?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. There was a lot of humping going on.

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[Tamara Judge]

But Adriana will be attending Marisol's party because she regrets what she said to Marisol. And then Adriana respects Julia's relationship, but doesn't like the division she has created by becoming close with Marisol.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I was happy that Adriana could admit she was wrong and apologize. I mean, these are. This is what the show's about.

[Tamara Judge]

It's not something they're really good at. These girls are good at, like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, that helps move storyline along. If you don't do that, then you're fighting about the same stupid thing over and over again. You know, it's just.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, they're gonna all fight again, probably about the same thing, but at least we get a second of resolution.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Just have go fight about some. Find something new to fight about.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then Gertie calls Dr. Jackie Walters and asks for advice about intimacy with Russell during her cancer journey. This part kind of, like, hit with me a little bit, because I was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Going to ask you about that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Because when you're not feeling your best or when you're on all these different medications, your sex drive changes. Plus, you know, once we.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I didn't know if it was physical appearance or sex drive declines.

[Tamara Judge]

For me, it's sex drive. But physical appearance was hard for me at the. I don't know at what point, how long ago this was for her. So what she was. You know, everybody's different. But for me, you know, at the beginning, I remember being really down on the way that my looks had changed, but then now it kind of shifted to how my body physically feels. And, like, do I even have the energy to do such a thing? Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then. Plus, you know, I've read and I'm not a doctor, but, like, chemotherapy and immunotherapy can put you into menopause.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, I still haven't had a.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Pee oh, then, yeah. So you. Which is sometimes a blessing, right? One less thing to worry about right now. But menopause, like, you know, I've gone through it. Your sex drive declines. That's why women go on, you know.

[Tamara Judge]

Hormone replacement, which I'm not allowed to go on, but I ever. I have to say that I. I don't know, I feel like I'm pretty horned up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, really?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Okay. So.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Should I send you a vibrator?

[Tamara Judge]

No. I went to the Pleasure Chest the other day.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You did?

[Tamara Judge]

I did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You didn't even like order it online. You went in and you're like, give me a dildo.

[Tamara Judge]

I. Well, I didn't really get a dildo. I got. Well, I got three things. I made Jen go with me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

And then. But you have to imagine it's on. Like it's in like West Hollywood. I don't. We went after a cancer appointment. I was like, I really seriously feel like I'm Michelle Williams and dying for sex. And then.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you watch that?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I watched it. It was good. But then the lady at the Pleasure Chest, I bought something and I didn't even realize I had done it, but everything I bought was rose gold coloring. And she goes, oh, I love this to match your hair.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did she recognize you?

[Tamara Judge]

I have no idea. She doesn't appear to be somebody who watches Real Housewives or listen tattoos in a pod. But I could be wrong. But she didn't seem like she recognized me. But I left with three things.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You weren't incognito. There was no sun.

[Tamara Judge]

No, this wasn't a pre plan.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Dark brown wig down to your waist. Nothing.

[Tamara Judge]

Nothing. Not one. So I'm like, I'm just waiting for that to drop. Teddy buying. And then the, the bags, I thought they at least would have had like incognito bags. No, it's like a bunch of body shapes, like bony.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, stop it. Could you imagine the headlines? This is the headlines. Teddy caught in a sex shop. In the comments would be, teddy, you need to concentrate on your children and your. In your health. You shouldn't be masturbating.

[Tamara Judge]

If there was ever a time I was going to do a vibrator post, it's now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I.

[Tamara Judge]

Here's the thing. I mean, that's the whole thing in itself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I.

[Tamara Judge]

One of my three.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We were all doing them, I don't know, a couple years ago. And it's great. I still have it.

[Tamara Judge]

You do? Which one is it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's like the sucker.

[Tamara Judge]

See, I don't like those.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, Well, I don't like the ones they do. There's a lot of different types.

[Tamara Judge]

I think I like an outer one better.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That is an outer one, but I.

[Tamara Judge]

Think it goes in, too. That's what that thing goes like this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You mean the clamp? No, I don't use that other side.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't use that other side. You just bend it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Bend it out. Bend that out. Rub it out.

[Tamara Judge]

My gosh. But anyways, I love how much Gertie is sharing and how easy she has been about, like, just, you know, she shows her emotions so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I've met Dr. Jackie. Have you? Did you meet her?

[Tamara Judge]

I have met her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I met her at the. I think it was the upfronts this year. She's one of the OGs to married to Medicine.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what Gertie told me when she was on the pod last week. But I haven't seen that show. I need to see that show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I never got into it. I never got into it.

[Tamara Judge]

And then we get Stephanie and Massoud going to dinner with Julia and Martina. The lack of how interested Martina. So when Martin. No, Martina was more interested in this conversation than Julia. All Julia wanted to do in any part of this conversation was talk about herself. Well, I mean, even when Stephanie was wanting to share her story, Julia was like, nope, not gonna.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Maybe she was thinking about Captain Sandy. I saw something go around. Did you read it?

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't read the whole thing. I just saw the clip and I'm like, that would be.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So there's some rumor that's going around that Julia had an affair with Captain Sandy. Is that what it was?

[Tamara Judge]

But remember, they were the ones on the yacht.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But Captain Sandy and her wife are so in love. I just don't see that happening.

[Tamara Judge]

Unless I doubt it's true. But it's. You know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But where'd it come from?

[Tamara Judge]

Because that's where all the drama was on the yacht between the two of them, so. And they're saying that that's why she didn't want Gertie there at that dinner. Oh, God. I mean, come on, give it a rest, girl. Give it a rest.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I.

[Tamara Judge]

She.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Julia did open up about her daughters not. Not having a good relationship with them. And they're not happy about the adoption.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, not to dog out Julia again, but, like, she didn't even remember where her daughters went to school.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. I. Do you think that there's always been kind of a strained relationship?

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe. I don't know. I think that Julia might just be a little self Consumed. And we got so obsessed with the fact that she, you know, at the beginning she seemed like she was nice, so we just kind of ignored it. But I think she's so self consumed and, and I mean, if she didn't tell her kids, her other kids that this was happening, I could see why they'd be upset. Not because, you know, they're having more kids, but like, that's a conversation that you normally have with your children.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, but her girls are grown. Right, right.

[Tamara Judge]

But still, you still. Could you imagine even if it was me and you and I just all of a sudden, if we have a kid. Hey, Tamara, I adopted a kid and I didn't tell you, but it, you know, here we go. You'd be like, what the Teddy? You're not going to mention it? Prior. Yeah. And you're just my friend. Imagine being my child.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I. That would be very. I mean, did she not tell her at all? She didn't tell her kids at all.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what she implied.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That is weird.

[Tamara Judge]

It's. I'm sorry, it's bizarre to me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And don't her kids live like, in a different country?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I think they go to college in New York. Now. I could be wrong, but I think.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because we don't just hear a lot about her kids, her girls. I mean, we have in the past, but I think the past few seasons we haven't heard much.

[Tamara Judge]

No, they, they came out on like the first season I was watching, but I don't know. Julia is not on my favorites list.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, she's not. I went back and forth with Julia and Gertie with the, you know, throwing the water and then the public humiliation. And, you know, I'm that person that we flip when the flip flop, when the water is being thrown in Gertie's face. Then I feel bad for Gertie, like, how could you do that? And then next scene, like, Gertie's publicly humiliating. That is so wrong.

[Tamara Judge]

See, I have a whole new viewing on this after my Gertie interview because, you know, I didn't even even truly think about it. Gertie's just come through cancer, she's sitting at a restaurant, they throw water in her face. And then she just sits there and takes it while they continue hammering at her. Imagine that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I want to rewatch that scene again because a lot of people have said, like, nobody stuck up for her.

[Tamara Judge]

No one did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Nobody said a word. I just. What All I remember in that scene is like, Alexia's face, like in everybody's face. But I do kind of remember. Didn't Marisol have a talk with Julia and say, like, what you did was wrong?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, she did, but none of it was in front of you at the moment. I got at the moment. Nobody was at the moment.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I wonder why.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I feel like Julie had gotten in their heads prior about whatever this drama was that was ensuing between the two of them. But then Marisol has a preppy lunch, which I thought was a really cute idea. I want you guys to do one. I think.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't copy.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I'm sorry. There's never been any redos on any of these shows. Everybody's fresh. I mean, the dog jumping event was new.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This episode, that was new, too. And you know what? For a friend, Marisol really is very involved. They show her wedding. They show scenes in her house. She's having parties. Like, why is she a friend? I don't get it.

[Tamara Judge]

It doesn't make any sense. But yesterday, Kiki told Marisol that Gertie said Marisol and Alexia are like a cult. But then I think. I think, what's a cult?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, it's a cult. I think it was more like a click. Like, she meant to say, like, they're a clique. Like, they're staying together like the Three Stooges. On my show, they're staying together to try to, you know, take me down.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Were you ever a preppy dresser?

[Tamara Judge]

Was there ever a time I went to a prep school, Hilton Head Prep.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And did you. So did you had uniforms?

[Tamara Judge]

We did not have uniforms. So we. I think we had to dress shirts, collared shirts. And I mean, every outfit that I see a picture of from high school, I'm in an Abercrombie shirt and some.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Different era than me.

[Tamara Judge]

So.

[Honey German]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So high school, I would say 84, 85. When I was in high school, prep look was really in. So I would wear Levi's. Like, the 501 Levi's, but I'd have my mom take them in, so they were pegged at the bottom.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Or you could barely get your. And then I wore the top ciders, the brown topsiders. And then I wore, like, a Izod, I thought it's called. I remember I had this pale yellow Izod.

[Tamara Judge]

Went out of business.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They did. Oh, no. And then I pop the collar up.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then I had, like, the Olivia Newton John hairdo. I slicked the sides back and had to pop a door. Oh, God, I wish I had a picture of that.

[Tamara Judge]

I need pictures of this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'd have to dig deep in storage.

[Tamara Judge]

I lied. Sorry. I thought is still in business. Sorry, Izod. I just. I guess we haven't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Look at you starting rumors. Shocker.

[Tamara Judge]

Shocker. Then Gertie explains as she was referring to everyone, she agrees she doesn't feel like her voice is being heard. And then Gertie brings back I feel you, girl.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel you. Just watch this week's episode of Orange County.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, gosh. Then Gertie brings Marisol a belated wedding gift, which Marisol thinks is a re gift of something Lisa gave to Gertie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I need more information on this.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, don't we all regift at some point? But I tell people gifting, I say like, I'll go because my friends and I, a bunch of like my like mom crew, it's always somebody's freaking birthday and so everybody's like, no gifts. And then I'm like, what if I just bring stuff to regift from paid posts and stuff like that that I know that you guys will like. So like some reason I've gotten a bunch of these different skin masks that like melt into your skin. And I brought all these different things and like. Yeah, but the hard part for me is to sleep in it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I just got these things that they're like almost like fabric but they're sticky and you put them like on your smile lines here.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Your eye and you sleep in it. And I thought, oh, they're not going to stay in my face. And they do.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that's the same thing from. And then I touch myself. Not, not like we already know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You got the vibrator. You're touching yourself a lot lately.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't like. I touch. I can't help but touch it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Touch it. I like to rub it. Like I like the feeling of it.

[Tamara Judge]

And then I like start to peel it off. Oh my gosh.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

Then Adriana apologized to Marisol for what was said on the boat, but adds that Marisol says mean things to they decide to make up for the time being and move on. Adriana claims she's doing a master's in psychology at Harvard. Say what you want about Adriana, but she understands how to create drama and then move on from it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, isn't Adriana the one that can speak like five different languages?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I don't know the housewifery of her going to Harvard. I need to know more details about that too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I mean, they were all making fun of her and saying like, it's an online class, anybody could take it.

[Tamara Judge]

I haven't taken one.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She made me either. Nor do I desire. She made it sound like it was a really big deal. And anybody, anybody that's continuing their education, if it's online, hybrid, whatever it is good for them. I don't think anybody should make fun of them.

[Tamara Judge]

And, and if it is, if she is in full blown, like a big portion of her and the fact that all of the girls just kind of laugh it off and make jokes about it, it. That kind of bums me out. Like, I get why she has a. A little jerk reflex when things happen because nobody's asked her about that. They just kind of make fun of her about it. And I'm like, I couldn't even get into a Harvard online class, nor would I show up to classes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Reject. Sorry.

[Tamara Judge]

They're like, sorry. Even though this is a class for everyone, it's not for you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But then Gertie pulls Julia to talk. Gertie apologizes for expressing her hurt in the wrong way, but maintains that Julia hurt her the entire Conflict blew up very fast. And Gertie acknowledges how close of friends they were before. And then they try to move forward and be cordial.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sorry. Did you notice that Gertie apologized and Julia didn't?

[Tamara Judge]

Julia can't apologize. Julia is the one we have to remember. Julia, when it comes down to it, one of them, yes. At some point did Gertie do this and say all these things in public forum and whatever, but Julia started this. Julia threw a water.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But also not only that, she lied about the whole boating situation.

[Tamara Judge]

And we got the proof where we know that they would have added an extra seat for Gertie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We got it straight from the horse's mouth. Ship. What is it?

[Tamara Judge]

Ship's mouth.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The ship's mouth.

[Tamara Judge]

But I mean, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone that Gertie is taking the blame for most of this. At this point, I think she just wants to get along with people and have some peace. So she's like, fine, I'm going to take it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel your pain, Gertie. I feel your pain.

[Tamara Judge]

Feel it. Then Stephanie continues talking about the jet. Okay, this. I could just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How much are you fed up?

[Tamara Judge]

My level of fed up. Okay, so let's. Let's break it down. Stephanie is going to bring her jet to Spain. She says there's only four people allowed on it. She plays like a mind game with Alexia and Marisol by like seeing if one of them will pick the jet over their friendship, which I thought was weird thing to do anyway. Then she doesn't. Let's talk about that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because I was confused. Did she not want them both on the plane or there was only one more seat.

[Tamara Judge]

There was only one more seat.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then why. Okay, that. That was very housewifery of her to do that. Right?

[Tamara Judge]

And then she did it to Kiki and Adriana, where she goes, I don't know who I should have. Should I have Kiki because I'm closer with Kiki, or should I have Adriana because I don't know her very well? We don't care either. Give us the jet spot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she has Larsa, Julia, Julia herself. And there's room for one more.

[Tamara Judge]

One more and it's going to be Adriana.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Would you. If somebody picked you and it was to say you're on Beverly Hills and you and Kyle are always travel buddies, right? And they said you can go, but Kyle couldn't, what would you do?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it didn't go down that way. If I would have just sat down. I was the first Person to sit down with her. And the way that Julia sat down with her and she just said, hey, can I invite you on my jet? I probably. If I didn't know any better, I probably would have been like, is everybody going? And then if they would have said, well, no, Kyle can't go, then I would have said, no. But if I just would have been like, we get to go on my jet, I probably would have done the same thing and been like, yeah. Yay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, so let me tell you my. Our experience on jets and whip production, how on our cast production feels about private jets. We had, you know, Heather and I flew private to Mexico one year. It depends on the size of the private jet. Heather wanted everyone to go, but they film us on the jets. They film this at the airport. They want these little things that they can throw into the show. So if you have people on private, there's not enough. There's no room for production unless it's a bigger jet. And so she was told she could take one person and she chose me. Well, that pissed off everybody else, you know, like, oh, why? Why can't you just fly commercial? It's not that far, you know, and this is part of the show. So they. They. On our show, they kind of frown upon it because they want us all together. They want to get that dynamic. Is there going to be an argument on the plane? Is there going to be. Let's get them with the iPhone, cameras? Because they can't bring usually big cameras into the airport. So it's like, it causes problems.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it causes problems. But also, like, the only person this was upsetting, I think, because everybody else is finding her so obnoxious for continuing to talk about the private jet is Lisa. Lisa is so pissed that she is not on this private jet because then they keep flashing back to like, I just want friends with yachts and private jets, private jets. And same, Lisa, same. But just play it cool.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't even care about that. I'm not like, oh, I have to fly private.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't either. But if I had the opportunity to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I get scared because the smaller plans, you know, I'm a little bit of a nervous flyer.

[Tamara Judge]

So there's a plan airport.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, lately, even going to New York or anywhere east coast is like, delay, a delay, delay, delay. It is very frustrating. I hope I don't have to travel anywhere soon. But I mean, I. I do like jsx.

[Tamara Judge]

I like, they don't fly everywhere. When you fly overseas and they're flying you first class or business or whatever. It's so nice. Anyway, it's probably even as good as a private jet. Like, it really doesn't make a difference. And I, I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's how I feel. Especially if you have your pod. You can shut your door, nobody has to bother you, you can sleep.

[Tamara Judge]

Sleep, lay down, food is being.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sir. I mean, I know they do that on, on private jets as well, but it's a, It's. I don't know. I think it. It's an experience.

[Tamara Judge]

Both are good.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't mind.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, between that and Stephanie bringing out the Rottweiler prop and her confessional, I was like, both of these things are a flop to me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I didn't like that either.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't like it. You went and bought that dog just for. But that stuff dog just for that one second that I, the producer or me or no one laughed at.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Mm. That fell flat. So you'd rather fly private.

[Tamara Judge]

I wouldn't ditch my friend if they said, Kyle, if I got. If I just was invited right from the beginning. And they said, hey, you can fly on my private jet. And I didn't think to ask, is everybody invited? Maybe I would have made a mistake and said, yeah, sure, great. But if they would have said, hey, Teddy, you can fly on the private jet, but Kyle can't, I would have been, no, I'd say, no play with Kyle.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, exactly. Okay, question. They're going to Spain.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is it Seville or is it Sevilla?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. Because each individual one of them, they said it different both times. It's like they'd been corrected by different producers, and then they would say whatever they were told. But then they.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I've been. I've been to Seville, Sevilla, whatever you.

[Tamara Judge]

Want to call it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Marbella, when you go to Marbella from there. And it's beautiful. Like, I'm jealous of that, that trip.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that the trip's going to be good. I think it's going to pick because even though this was a filler episode, I still enjoyed watching it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So there's some rumblings that Beverly Hills is going to Australia. I saw it on the Gram, and.

[Tamara Judge]

I, like, I'm making no facial, and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm like, damn, that's something that I've wanted for so many years. I think, like, next, what I would love to do for a cast trip is go to Japan.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I've been to Japan. I have a question. Do you think that they're gonna have Denise on the cast trip?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, did we talk about that at all? So she. She is now filming. We saw. It's all over social media.

[Tamara Judge]

We only know that she filmed once. That's all we know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We don't know the extent of what.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I talked to Erica about it, and she said that she filmed with her. Her. And sudden filmed with her. That by those.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you love how they put them in, like, front of a window on a street so everybody could take. I'm like, you purposely want this to come out, don't you?

[Tamara Judge]

You should have taken them to the pleasure chest right afterwards.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right. I mean, I think. I think that Denise would be perfect to come, like, come in throughout the rest of the season because of what's going on in her personal life.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I mean, I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There were some cops called or something to Aaron's house. I saw that, like, I think on Instagram, she went to go get a.

[Tamara Judge]

Pet or something like that. I don't know. All I know is I think, oh.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He called him on her.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't know. She showed up there to get a pet or something. I, I, I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's gonna get uglier.

[Tamara Judge]

It's gonna get so ugly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So ugly.

[Tamara Judge]

And that's unfortunate. Away from each other. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I just feel bad for, you know, her daughter that it's just.

[Tamara Judge]

It's all heartbreaking, and I can't imagine what she's going through, gone through it. Not gonna have to live it on television. Oh, gosh. Which I would think is gonna into more problems, because when she talks about it on television.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you know him before they got married?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, you did?

[Tamara Judge]

Because I filmed with them. Eric and I had, like, a situation with him while we were filming.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Really?

[Tamara Judge]

At the beginning of the season? Yeah, Like a hostile.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, he was.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't want to use the word hostile, but it was definitely to the point where I was like, hey, uncomfortable. Don't talk to me that way.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, this is inappropriate. You're one, like, you're the boyfriend. Like, go sit over there, or don't come to these events. And then he would show up after her. He didn't even come. You know, it's one thing to be a significant other and show up with your partner, but, like, no, he would show up because he couldn't be there on time, and he would, like, show up late just to make sure he could make it for filming. And then there was, like, one event where he was walking around, and it was, like, a huge, really beautiful event. The one where Brandy got super, super hammered. At Kyle's house. That was for Children's Hospital. And he was like walking around at the end of filming with like this huge bottle of like. I forget if it was tequila or jacked. I don't. It was a brown alcohol and whatever it was. And he was just walking around and I was like. And they never, I never saw that on the show. But he was like barking at everybody. I mean he was. There's no chance that anyone been like, oh, he's a good guy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Speaking of Brandy, did you see that post she did with. She put Nair on her face?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, she tried to get the parasites out by putting Naira. Now it looks really. Ouch.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She looks like she has a chemical burn on her face now.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know, but some I have used. I don't. Well, she said she left it on for over the minutes that it's supposed to be because she was trying to get the parasite out. And then she was pointing at the different spots the parasite was running to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But where is the parasite gonna come out of? And I know, I don't know anything about parasites. I hear they're horrible, but like they can't remove them. Terry debrow said it's not a parasite.

[Tamara Judge]

He believes what he thinks. It's just too much work done.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. I don't know. But she's saying like something's crawling in her face. I just. It just seems like some doctor can figure it out.

[Tamara Judge]

It seems like self diagnosing yourself by adding Nair to your face and leaving it on for longer than recommended when you already have facial issues is not the smartest plan.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well put hair. It's a hair removal. I just, I can't wrap my brain around about the. How she thinks that's going to work.

[Tamara Judge]

And I think you leave it on like three minutes so she put it all over her skin. I, I don't know. I don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Somebody tell her to do this.

[Tamara Judge]

I. I don't know if somebody told her. I don't. Haven't talked to her in ages, so I have no idea. But it made me feel really sad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Watching it makes me feel sad just to know that she. I mean she's such a beautiful girl to have to. I mean her face is like disfigured now and they can't figure it out. Like that's just. That'd be.

[Tamara Judge]

But also if you. Some people when they start doing, you know, different things to their face, they'll do certain things that doctors recommend and then they'll do things on their own and then it makes it worse. I wish you would just so solely do what the doctors recommended at this point in time. Because if not, I mean, she could permanently. Yeah, like she, that could really hurt her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But if there's a parasite that's going around your face, it's so close to like your brain. And like, I mean, she's been to.

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of doctors.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I thought, and I have no experience in this, but I, in my mind, I always thought parasites like, were in your gut.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't, I don't know. I haven't. I. I don't know the answer.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm gonna be googling this next.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh. Well, let us know what you call Dr. Tam, but I gotta get going to the doctors.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, will you let me know what is going on?

[Tamara Judge]

I'll keep you posted. I'll send some voice notes to drive everybody nuts. But I love you and thank you so much for everything. And don't put any Nair on your face and leave it for over eight minutes today while I'm gone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can I put it on my cooch?

[Tamara Judge]

Sure. Burn that burn, Burn that bush. Burn that bush. Everybody move to the.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Bye guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Bye.

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