She Ain’t a Friend (RHOBH Recap)

Summary

Podcast Episode Summary: "She Ain’t a Friend (RHOBH Recap)"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Episode: She Ain’t a Friend (RHOBH Recap)
• Release Date: April 17, 2025

Overview: In the episode titled "She Ain’t a Friend (RHOBH Recap)," hosts Tamra Judge and Teddi Mellencamp delve deep into the latest reunion of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH). They explore the intricate dynamics, heated confrontations, and underlying tensions that unfolded during the season's third reunion. This comprehensive recap offers listeners insightful analysis, memorable quotes, and thoughtful commentary on the cast's interactions and personal challenges.

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1. Opening Reflections on the Reunion (02:47 - 05:04)

Tamra and Teddi kick off the discussion by expressing their surprise at the extended length of the third reunion, which Tamra describes as "like an hour, 18 minutes or something like that" (03:04). They acknowledge the emotional investment viewers have in the show, noting how extended episodes can become both engaging and, at times, dragging.

Notable Quote:

• Tamra: "Beverly Hills is officially done for the season. The third reunion came out last night, and oh my gosh, I didn't think it needed to be supersized." (02:47)

2. Conflict Between Bose and Sutton (03:40 - 05:15)

A significant portion of the episode centers around the friction between cast members Bose and Sutton. Tamra recounts Bose's accusation towards Sutton for labeling her as an "angry black woman," a claim Sutton counters by stating Bose's strong demeanor was misinterpreted (04:02). The hosts debate the inevitability of conflicts in high-pressure environments like RHOBH, with Teddi predicting that Bose will have moments of frustration: "If you don't yell now that you're a housewife, there's going to be a time where you're going to yell" (04:15).

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi: "Bose, I'm gonna make a bet with you. If you don't yell now that you're a housewife, there's going to be a time where you're going to yell." (04:15)
• Tamra: "It's not just a housewife thing. Yelling. It's a human thing." (04:27)

3. Accusations of Substance Abuse (05:56 - 08:44)

The conversation shifts to allegations regarding Sutton's drinking habits. Tamra mentions comments made by Dorit about Sutton's potential drinking problem, which Sutton vehemently denies. They discuss the lack of accountability Dorit exhibits, especially when dealing with sensitive issues like substance abuse.

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra: "Andy also noted that Dorit had agreed with a comment on Instagram calling Sutton a drunk." (06:08)
• Teddi: "She didn't come out and Call her an alcoholic. Right. But she has poked the bear about it." (07:50)

4. Loyalty and Support Among Cast Members (08:44 - 10:46)

Tamra and Teddi analyze the loyalty dynamics within the group, particularly focusing on Erica and Sutton's interactions. They discuss how Erica feels unsupported during her personal struggles and how Sutton's inconsistent support has led to strained relationships. The hosts highlight Erica's resilience and her ability to move on from conflicts without playing the victim.

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra: "Erica has got a lot more going on as far as jobs and producing and things like that. But, you know, like you just said, echoing what you just said and going back to what you just said, there is still a degree of what can you, you know, humanly, like, when you're hurt, just can't even." (48:00)
• Teddi: "She. She's resilience." (23:14)

5. Garcelle’s Departure and Feelings of Isolation (15:36 - 45:42)

A significant highlight of the episode is the discussion about Garcelle Beauvais' departure from the show. Tamra theorizes that Garcelle felt isolated and unsupported, leading her to walk out of the reunion abruptly. They critique Sutton's lack of loyalty and Dorit's confrontational approach, which they believe contributed to Garcelle's decision to leave.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi: "I think that everyone runs after everybody when they walk off or run off. I think the nail in the coffin was getting her kind of her ass handed to her a little bit by Bose." (43:09)
• Tamra: "I think, Sudden should have stuck up for Garcelle because Garcelle has stuck up for so many years." (47:21)

6. Insights on Cast Dynamics and Future Predictions (45:42 - 49:08)

The hosts reflect on the overall group dynamics, emphasizing the importance of support and authenticity. They predict potential shifts in alliances and speculate on how current tensions might influence future seasons. Tamra and Teddi stress the necessity for conflict resolution and genuine relationships within the show to maintain its appeal.

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra: "Where you don't have a lot of friends in a group and your one friend is not being there for you, you're like, why am I here? What am I doing?" (18:40)
• Teddi: "If you don't want to make up with somebody, you don't want to be friends with somebody or try your best to be friend somebody." (21:38)

7. Personal Reflections and Emotional Support (26:35 - 29:31)

Tamra and Teddi share personal stories and reflections on dealing with stress and emotional turmoil, drawing parallels between the cast's experiences and their own lives. They offer words of support to cast members like Erica, acknowledging her tough journey and resilience.

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra: "And it's one of those situations where you go into every filming just being so anxious and, you know, am I going to get yelled at today? What's going to happen?" (18:40)
• Teddi: "I am that person who reaches out, who worries, who tries to do my best." (29:43)

8. Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up (49:08 - 52:34)

As the episode wraps up, Tamra and Teddi express their appreciation for the discussion and the insights gained from the reunion recap. They hint at future episodes, discussing upcoming reality shows and the evolving landscape of reality television.

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra: "For some of us, personal finances aren't just personal. They include a lot more people than ourselves, loved ones, neighbors, the communities we." (52:19)
• Teddi: "Because even though our business is helping guide your finances, our ambition is to make it mean so much more." (52:34)

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Conclusion: In "She Ain’t a Friend (RHOBH Recap)," Tamra Judge and Teddi Mellencamp provide a thorough and engaging analysis of the latest RHOBH reunion. They dissect the complex relationships, highlight pivotal moments, and offer heartfelt commentary on the personal struggles of the cast members. Through their insightful discussion, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the show's dynamics and the human emotions driving the cast's interactions. This episode serves as both a recap and a thoughtful examination of the challenges and triumphs faced by the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Transcript

[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Hey, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two Cheese in the pod with myself and Dolores.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hello.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh. So let's get into it. Beverly Hills is officially done for the season. The third reunion came out last night, and oh my gosh, I didn't think it needed to be supersized.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

When you say supersized, was it longer than usual?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, it was like an hour, 18 minutes or something like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm like, seriously, Sarah, I didn't know that. And I'm like, geez, this is going on forever. However, I'm not saying it was boring because I hate to see all the shows go when they go. You get attached to watching something, right? And then you have to fill that spot. But I was like, this is dragging out. Thank you for letting me in on that. I didn't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Starts out where Bose calls out Sutton for labeling her as an angry black woman. On the after show. Sutton claim she only said Bose was angry because she was yelling. Bo, shut that down real quick. She says, don't say I was yelling because I don't yell. Sutton said Bose came in strong and Bose responded, I am strong.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Bose, I'm gonna make a bet with you. If you don't yell now that you're a housewife, there's going to be a time where you're going to yell. Just so you know.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, but tell me one that doesn't yell.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I bet you five bucks, Bose, I.

[Tamara Judge]

Mean, we all yell one time or another.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's in you. It's in you.

[Tamara Judge]

It's in me. Because we know that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, no, Tamara, we know that you can do it. But Bose, as a rule, she's a professional woman. She handles things differently. You know, she comes from a world where there's HR and there's all these. These, you know.

[Tamara Judge]

Good point.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There's all these different things. But guess what? That doesn't. That's not in this world.

[Tamara Judge]

So not housewife world. And guess what? It's not just a housewife thing. Yelling. It's a human thing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's a human thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Uh huh. And. And this is, you know, the. The grounds for some yelling. So it's coming. Yeah, so it's coming. Bose, I promise you, you will yell at some point.

[Tamara Judge]

Question. Somebody on that couch said that Sutton buys people. I can't remember who it was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was Dorit Do.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so Dorit says that Sutton buys people. Kathy's like, she's frugal. I think she's cheap. I would have to say Kathy gave us some comedy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she did say that to her. And I have to say it was funny. I don't know that she's cheap. And then here comes Garcelle to the rescue, as always. She's not cheap.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think she buys people. I have a lot to say about this, so keep. I, I, I don't know if you're on the same page with me as this.

[Tamara Judge]

There's a lot to talk about. There's a lot of factors that went into it. So then let's move on to jury denied implying that Sutton has a drinking problem, which is a total lie. She absolutely has said Sutton has a drinking problem.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's the one who said, was it her or was it Kyle who said it? Well, no, she went over when she was by Kyle's house, I think, one morning, and she walked in and she was like, well, she drinks baka in the morning or whatever.

[Tamara Judge]

I think, I think everybody has made a comment about it. I mean, when you have a mixer that you carry in your purse, yeah, that to me, is a little bit of a red flag, but that's just me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I don't drink. Right. So I don't see the joy in it. I don't, I don't comment on people who do drink a lot. I happen to be nervous around people who drink. As I've said before, it makes me nervous. It's not my thing. But, hey, all the power to you if you could get the edge off by a drink, I guess. I mean, but yeah, any too much of anything is no good.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But that's not for us to say, Tamara.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I, well, not me and you. I mean, I mean, I might have said it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

But she denies it, if you put it. Andy also noted that Dorit had agreed with a comment on Instagram calling Sutton a drunk. Commenting facts. Dorit instantly turned that around just like this, and, and directed the blame on her. Like, she didn't even address it. She didn't even be like, yeah, I did say that. Yeah, I did call her. Like, whatever. She turned it around. And it was like, well, you say it. You say it. It was because of COVID and da, da, da. And. And then she also insisted. Also insisted if she wanted to paint Sutton as an alcoholic, she would have done a hell of a lot more than what she's done.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she basically, she, she said it in so many words. She didn't come out and Call her an alcoholic. Right. But she has poked the bear about it. And, you know, Sutton's not stupid, but, you know, I don't like the lack of accountability that Dory is taking here.

[Tamara Judge]

She didn't take any accountability. No, none. Zip. Zilch. We have a tweet, we have many comments like, she in this, just this season, it's like, is there alcohol in that? I mean, it's Sutton. Of course there's alcohol in it. So she insinuates a lot, but she doesn't actually come out and say the words. Erica Q. Sutton of kicking women when they are down. Now, Sutton asked if Kyle and Dorit had done the same to Erica. Erica said she. She cussed them out privately.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, so they did.

[Tamara Judge]

They did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So. So Erica, you're just saying. You're kind of like just saying that Sutton did it. And Sutton's like, wait a second, I'm not the only one who did it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Kyle insists they never kicked Erica when she was down ever. I think that there was an overall feeling within the group that Erica was doing something wrong. And I think that Sutton accused Erica of a lot of stuff. Stuff throughout the years about her legal issues. And she did. I mean, she went. She went really deep on those. That situation. So, I mean, I think there is Erica Hamster. Well, you could tell there is some sort.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can't stomach her. I got.

[Tamara Judge]

I think there's some truth to it. I honestly do. When Erica said it's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's warranted and, you know, Erica has moved on from it. You know, I don't think that they attacked Sutton when things were happening, because when she was fighting with them, they were down. Like, there's a lot of things they could have come back and said at those times, but they don't fight like New Jersey.

[Tamara Judge]

No, they don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So there's these. This underlying resentment amongst all of them, I think, and towards Sutton. But, you know, I'll say it again. I'll die on this hill. No one had Erica's back when she was going through that.

[Tamara Judge]

I think some of the girls did. I don't think that Kyle did, but I think there was a lot of conversations.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think. I wouldn't say they kicked her, but I wouldn't say they said, we believe that you didn't know because you're our friend and you're saying you didn't do it. So until you're somebody proves differently, we. We believe you. Nobody said that.

[Tamara Judge]

No one said that at all, ever.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And, you know, when she was sitting there and the tears were strolling down her face. Nobody said to Sutton, shut the up and get off her back. She's going through enough like, they just didn't. So, yeah, that's all I have to say about that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, a fan claims Sutton yells and throws tantrums when people confront her about her hypocrisy and bad behavior. Garcelle says sometimes the world of double standards. Standards that's also known as housewives. Garcelle said sometimes it seems that way. Depends on who's pushing her buttons. Garcelle is done at this point for sticking up for Sutton.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel, well, it's about time.

[Tamara Judge]

It's kind of like she's pissed off and you can see it all over her face.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know how. Like, she was fed up to hear, like, she just had enough. Yeah, she had enough. Wait, I want to ask you. So she came into the reunion saying, I hope we take a cast photo.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What happened from there to the end that made her, like, just enough? Like, it was just enough.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

You know I think it started with Bo's kind of reprimanding her. I think that really pushed her over the edge about the break in of the house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right? Right.

[Tamara Judge]

And Garcelle doubled down on that and Bose is like no, like you should not be doing that. And then I think it continued with Sutton. Sutton was didn't have her back like she had zero loyalty.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

1. Not one thing did Sutton say in her favor. And right until the end when they said, what did you take? What was your favorite part of the season? What did you. What was surprised you? What did you take? She said, I loved seeing Sutton and her mother, whatever it was that she said. But it had to do with, again, being a friend to Sutton. There's a lot of things she could have. She could have said. I'm surprised that maybe this girl sitting next to me really isn't that good of a friend to me. She could have said that.

[Tamara Judge]

She could have said that. She kept her mouth shut. She was clearly irritated from the get go.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He was.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think. Listen, I don't think it was her intention to go out there and quit. I think because she said from the very beginning, let's all finally take a cast photo. And the very end, she's like, peace out. I'm done. So I think that it's been something she's been thinking about. I think every housewife that's been on for quite a while is like, is this that long? Yeah. Is this it? Maybe this is it for me. Like, was she like four or five years?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Five years, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And she has a lot else going on. It's the housewives that have, like, nothing else going on that she doesn't want to get this. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Nobody here is my friend. Nobody really likes me. And then there's the. I feel like there's a little bit of an ego thing, you know, Here comes Bose.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Big boss Bose.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Kind of like reprimands her about how. What she thinks she said. But. And I feel like Garcelle saying, that's how I felt about it. But I think her ego was hurt a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, a thousand percent.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Once again. Once again, Sutton just sat there.

[Tamara Judge]

She just. That's all she's been doing. But Garcelle said she was pissed because she doesn't get any grace in this group and her accountability is not accepted. No. No one smiled. But let me ask you, are people supposed to be smiling at each other at the reunion? Like, to me, going to the union reunion is usually like, I'm dreading it. I don't want to do this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know, I think it was more of.

[Tamara Judge]

But I'm always in the hot seat.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I think that Garcelle felt that she was on an island 100%. There are people that say, I'm on an island. Meanwhile, they have the backing of everybody. People stand behind them and hold their hand through good and bad. Not this. I do feel like Garcelle felt very singled out. And you know, when, when you put all your eggs in that one basket of a friend and then you really. It's not reciprocal.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Where do you go from there?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I think you're right. I think that she felt like she was on an island. I've. I've had seasons where I felt like I was on an island.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You were.

[Tamara Judge]

And. And yes. And it's one of those situations where you go into every filming just being so anxious and, you know, am I going to get yelled at today? What's going to happen? And after a while when you're on that island, it's like, why am I on the show? And I really do feel like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you think that's what that was? Yeah, I don't think so.

[Tamara Judge]

And her, her real good friend was Sutton. And then Sutton, you know, she's flip flopping. She's not being there for her. She, Sutton so badly wants to be in the whole, like, group of girls, you know, being besties with them. Where it's always been Garcelle and Sutton, they've been that. They've been like the Fox Force Five. They're the two that always stick together. So now she doesn't have Sutton sticking up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Was it. Was it just Garcelle sticking for Sutton because Sutton's always getting in trouble.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Or was it. I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

No, it was. It was the two of them always like, you know, but did Sutton give.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Me a time where Sutton, please, like, give me a time where Sutton showed her her allegiance to Garcelle.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, not. Not in this reunion am I missing it and not in this reunion. There wasn't. But I do feel like in the past years, they do. They stick together and they back each other up. So that's why I think it was more of a shock to Garcelle. It's like, where's my friend? Where's my friend? When you don't have a lot of friends in a group and your one friend is not being there for you, you're like, why am I here? What am I doing?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know, Sutton branched out. She brought on Jennifer Tilly.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And now it just wasn't her and Garcelle. So now her and Jennifer are getting lunchtime and talk time and sitting on the couch together, you know, at the, at the cash trip. And, you know, here's Garcelle going off in her room to herself.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, and also, I feel like Sutton was so desperately wanting Kyle as her bestie. This Year. And I don't know where that changed because there's always been a little bit of bickering, friendship, but a little. A lot of bickering between the two of them.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, because I know why.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because Kyle gave her a little attention this season. That's what I saw.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that Kyle's a staple to the show. Everybody wants to be her friend in this group. Sutton has stuck to Garcelle for so many years, and now for some reason, she's pulling away and she's like, I need Kyle to be my bestie. And it was a little desperado. Yeah. Don't you think?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And. Yeah. Well, I mean. I mean, it's nice to make friends with other people and not to be just friends with. I mean, that's what I think. But you can never forget who is that one solid person for you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And I do believe, like, these shows are about conflict and resolution. And if you are. We've talked about this before. If you don't want to make up with somebody, you don't want to be friends with somebody or try your best to be friend somebody, and if they're not having it, then there's nothing you can do. But that's what the shows are about. When you try to isolate somebody, you're just making yourself look bad. You're not. And you're not showing yourself as, you know, a. A in a positive way when it comes to the network. Conflict resolution, conflict resolution. Like, if you're can't do that, then you shouldn't be on the show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Honestly, you have to drop things. Like. Like Erika Jane said, she's like, listen, yeah, yeah, I have. I have issues with you, but I decided to move on from them. And yeah, we. We did find a better place this season. And Sutton's like, but, you know, why are you bringing it up when you said you moved on from it? She said, I did move on for it, but doesn't mean I can't bring it up.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Eric is very good at moving on. She can get upsets.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She'll move on. She really, you know, she really got past how she was kind of like, when things went. Went down for her, she kind of got past. She never held anybody accountable for. Not really.

[Tamara Judge]

She never plays victim.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, never.

[Tamara Judge]

And that's what I love about her. She's one tough girl. She, you know, she takes care of herself now. And it's like, you don't. I don't give a shit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She. She's resilience.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I. Resilient. I Saw her. I saw her the other day and I was venting about some things and she's like, don't get in there and do it like. You know what I mean? Like, she's like, you don't worry about it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like her.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't like minute. Don't worry about it. Get over there and do it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

At Bravo Con, she had this tight lycra dress on. It was like plastic.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm, I'm. Here's me, short, fat Italian girl from New Jersey putting my, my lashes on, you know, fixing my makeup in the bathroom. And then I look up and there's the Barbie doll, Erika Jane standing behind me. And I'm like, Erica, look at, look at yourself in the mirror.

[Tamara Judge]

Such a presence. Right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Insane. It is insane. Just. Everything is perfectly in. In. It's just where it belongs. I don't know what else to say. The legs.

[Tamara Judge]

I know everything.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Arms. The long legs.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The torso, everything.

[Tamara Judge]

The attitude. It's all top notch. So Erica hasn't finalized her divorce from Tom, but her lawyers wants her to move forward. Andy brought up Tom's conviction and his request to be moved to a hospital. Erica says she's only considered visiting him when he passes, explaining that he's no longer mentally present.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If I came there, you don't even know. Who cares?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that, that made me sad. You know, I. I'm sure that she wants to see him, but he's also put her through so much. She's 20 plus years with him. So even if you want to see.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Somebody, you're going to go see them whether they, they're coherent or not.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I just feel like I'm not saying.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know, you don't think so.

[Tamara Judge]

She's like, no, no, she doesn't want.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

To go see him. That was okay to save face, like them saying, are you going to see him? To support. She doesn't want to see him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, she had a very good response to Andy when he, when he asked, do you think Tom is guilty now? Erica responded, it doesn't really.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's not for me to know. Yeah. It's not my decision. The law. This is a great answer.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's the truth. But yeah, she, she gave both answers. Very. Enough to get her off the hook of going any further with him. Pushing her to answer.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, there's not much more.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He gave an answer without giving an answer.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but there's nothing left.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You want to go see him? He's not mentally there. Why would I go See him. Okay, that's enough. She was put in such a position from him.

[Tamara Judge]

Mm.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Almost homeless, I want to say. Like, she didn't know where her next meal was coming from.

[Tamara Judge]

I couldn't even imagine.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She got the whole. You know what, though, Tamra, being a single mom going through a divorce.

[Tamara Judge]

You.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You've been there before.

[Tamara Judge]

Just being in a lawsuit in my past.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, the lawsuit. Yeah. That.

[Tamara Judge]

Those are so draining and exhausting. Scary. It could kill you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Physically sick. Like. That's what I'm saying. It's like unhealthy stress. It's like you can get sick from it. It can years later manifest.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So that she's been good. I don't blame her a lot, and I get it. Hopefully on the other side, her closure is with herself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So it was very sweet for Andy. Acknowledge Teddy's, you know, being diagnosed with cancer. It was very sweet. You have to be. You have to remember at that time of the reunion, Teddy was still in the hospital, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. So I had seen Kyle at the hospital, and she had told me for the reunion, and I knew that had to been the hardest thing in the world for her to do because of this, because, you know, they're best friends, and she is. Was worried sick, and it was hard, for sure. And.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I think that it's a very unsure time.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Yes. And I do think Andy was being a little bit messy as, you know, talking about that, because I think there was a motivation behind it because he knew, I'm sure, from somebody, that Dorit hadn't reached out yet, and her response had not reached out to Teddy, and her response was she'd prefer to wait until Teddy was out of the thick of it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. That's what everyone does when they're worried about someone. They wait till they get better to see if they're okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Shut the up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't operate like that. I don't operate.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Actually, I was being sarcastic.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's actually what I said to the TV when she said that. And again, not taking accountability. Maybe that's something you should do. Like, you know what? I. I probably should have. And I'm going to do it now. Not. Oh, I'm just waiting for a better time.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, just to send a text message or to reach out to Kyle. Like, she. From what I understand, she didn't even reach out to Kyle, and here she is bitching because Kyle reached out to P.K. you know, she also reached Out. Reached out to dorit during the divorce. They weren't even speaking. And considering knowing what Kyle's going through with this, like, you can't even reach out and say, hey, you know, my heart is broken. You know, give her my love, whatever. Because a lot of people did. A lot of people did. Like, people that necessarily.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Strangers did.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, strangers, the whole world. But even people in the housewife world that wasn't, you know, maybe close with Teddy on the cast. I. I mean, I think almost the entire cast had reached out. You know, if Erica facetimed her set, an editor to her prayer chain, Bose, who I don't even think has ever met her, offered to send her food. Like, that's just what you do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Well, they've since reached out, and they're good now. Of course, this is a time not to worry or to hold a grudge. You know, Teddy has to worry about getting better. And, of course, Tamara. We all have to focus on the positive things. All we can for this.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But it says a lot to me.

[Tamara Judge]

It says a lot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm gonna say, yeah. I am that person who reaches out, who worries, who tries to do my best. If I. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So, I mean, my God, Vicki gunmeson reached out to Teddy and even sent to our present. And she's been doing a book, a color horrible things about her for years. And she said, listen, this ain't right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This is when things.

[Tamara Judge]

This is when you. Yes, yes. And I know Vicki personally, and I know she's lost a few people to cancer, so I know that it's very. Something that's close to her heart, but you know, that that's somebody. This is somebody that she. Teddy worked with, you know, Dorit. Like, really. She went to dorit's house when she got robbed. And shemor. So I can go on and on because it's very frustrating for me, but let's just move on. So I don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We're gonna move on from that. But you know what? I don't think we have to say.

[Tamara Judge]

A lot about it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think it speaks a lot for itself.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Yeah. Some things don't have to. Yeah. So then we move on. Andy asked Kyle if mauricio had filed for divorce. Kyle said no. She got emotional, saying she regrets how their separation deteriorated. She didn't know he was dating anyone until she saw the airport photos, though she assumed Kyle admitted she used to check his messages while they were separated.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So if she checked his messages, she would have known exactly who that girl was. Was the girl just didn't show up without saying, hey, are you here? She didn't, like, wasn't a shot in the dark. So if Kyle was getting his messages, Kyle knew exactly what was going on.

[Tamara Judge]

But Kyle did say there was a point in the separation where she just stopped looking. And I. Do you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. But then when that picture comes out, she didn't go back and look. I know how she was finding, probably.

[Tamara Judge]

But how is she doing it? Did she have, like, computer.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Computer, iPad. His. His Apple ID was hooked up to something, so all his texts are going to the iPad or the computers in the house.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you have. Does Paulie have your phone? Like, can he get into it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He can have it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but, I mean, does it. Does he check it? Does he go through it? Do you go through his.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Never?

[Tamara Judge]

Never. No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I don't. But, you know, there's always that one day where you go, I got a little feeling, a little. A little gut feeling.

[Tamara Judge]

Let me look through this phone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I haven't had that with Paul. My. My phone is left. I hand pull my phone and go. Could you please, you know, put it over there? Whatever. Doesn't matter. So I.

[Tamara Judge]

He has my password. He give. He gave me his password, but I don't remember it. Like, it's not anything. I should have wrote it down just in case. You never know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, you can always. If you want to. You just watch him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. No, he just gives. If you. If I want to look at his phone, he'd give it to me, but I just. And I would give him mine, but I don't. I don't know. But.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But if we're not going through a breakup, so.

[Tamara Judge]

But.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So Kyle had. During this time. I'm sorry, but Kyle was getting all his messages.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Kyle is much like Teddy because they're investigators, so. She said she didn't know he's dating anybody until he saw the airport picture. Kyle admits she used to check his messages while they were separated. Now she stopped looking, and I'm sure he. Now, after seeing this, he's like, hell, no. I don't know how you're seeing him, but I'm taking this well.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So all he has to do is change his Apple id. Yeah. And I'm sure. Get it anymore.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm sure it's done now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But by the time he figured out that she was getting all these things because at one point, he goes, how does she know everything?

[Tamara Judge]

She's like, I know every crumb. This job right here is just a side hustle. I'm actually a Detective, every woman is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Every woman can do that. Sis, you had his Apple ID for many years, and you just never let on. You never gave up your source. But then you told him too much about what you knew, and he figured it out. Or maybe some other woman he was sitting across from when he picked up his phone and goes, how does she know everything? And the. The 20 year old goes, dumb, dumb. We have every code. We could break a code in three minutes.

[Tamara Judge]

I wonder, though, if she knew everything but she was telling. Because if she told him the things that she knew, then he'd be like, where are you getting that information? So she was probably very smart and kept it to herself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she shouldn't have told him anything. She knew the time I tell you everything I know will be the last time you see me.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So for the first time, first time ever, I feel like Kyle is acknowledging her potential feelings for Morgan Wade there. You know, she said it's the first time. Well, I mean, she's been very quiet about that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Last year, they got matching tattoos and things.

[Tamara Judge]

She said she's not coming out, but she has questions for her daughters and support, regardless of how she identifies. Kyle said that her kids were very supportive. So Kathy was over there laughing her. Laughing her ass off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did Kathy say, I'm going to be a lesbian just so you don't feel alone?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I was waiting for that next. But she did say, like I told my girls, and Andy said, wait, you told your girls you're a lesbian? And she's like, huh. But you know what? At this point, I just feel like, leave this alone. Whatever her feelings are for Morgan or not for Morgan, it. At this point, like, it. Just leave her alone. Leave her alone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Tamara, I know you guys are closed and your friends and I happen to think I'm Kyle's. I am a fan. I saw her stick up for that dog the other day. I would have fought that bitch if I was with Kyle. Kyle could have ran behind me. We would have been Duke and I would have went a couple rounds with that woman. I'm going to just tell you right.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, for those of you that haven't seen it, there is a video going around on social media where Kyle, Teddy, I think Jen and a few other people were walking with this lady, was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Dragging her little dogs across the street. And, you know, I looked at some of the comments, and they were like, kyle, stay out of it.

[Tamara Judge]

No, no, Kyle. Kyle is an animal lover. And Kyle said something to the woman. We didn't hear the audio. At least I didn't. And basically, like, don't do that to your dogs. This woman ripped her scarf off and she was chasing Kyle around.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was so funny because Kyle was, like, trying to hide and like, she was running behind. Let me tell you, Kyle got behind.

[Tamara Judge]

Teddy and it was funny because Teddy's like, she's afraid of nothing. This. I'm telling you, I know this for a fact. Teddy is afraid of nothing. And she just stood there like, I'm not running from you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. No. So it would have been, I promise you, would have been an altercation if it was in New Jersey. But Kyle, so cute, Adorable Kyle. Thank you very much for that alone, for that act of that courageous act. I am not going to talk about you and wait at all. And if you don't want to talk about it, I'm good with that.

[Tamara Judge]

Foreign Pack your suitcase for a new season of the Hulu original reality series Vanderpump Villa. Let's do this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Ciao.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wait, let me take a sip of.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Have you heard of this?

[Tamara Judge]

One of my girlfriends told me all about it. Tell me more.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's like a party in your mouth. I've been living for the Italian sweet cream.

[Tamara Judge]

It is delish. Now that I can get into it, I'm thinking my next espresso martini could use a little French vanilla cold foam.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

I'm literally doing this right now. It's CoffeeMate.com Coldfoam My Drink. Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

So after filming wrapped, Andy said they were taking a cast photo. Garcelle declined. When asked why, she said, I don't want to be in the cast photo. In her dressing room, Garcelle said she's grateful for the opportunity, but done with the show. They're. She said before leaving, I don't think she needed to say that. I know she was mad. I probably would have done the same thing. Because I say that. I don't really mean. Yeah, yeah. We both said the group went ahead with the photo. Sutton tried to find Garcelle at.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

After the photo.

[Tamara Judge]

After the photo. And she's like, wait, what Can I. Can I just say to Supper?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Supper. Can I just say one thing?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

When Sutton went to leave, Garcelle was the first one to get up after her many a times. Okay. On the boat, when. When Sutton went outside, after the. Whatever you want to call it, the trial that they had on her or whatever you want to call it, she. Yeah, she went with Sutton. Jennifer Tilly went with Sutton. Last reunion, when Sutton went to pass out, Garcelle left with her. Garcelle caught some heat on that. She did. She caught heat for leaving with her friends. So now on Sutton. I'm only speaking this out loud, not because I don't like you, because I do like You. I've been. I've been to your apartment in the city, and you were kind. We've been in Bravo Con together. We've met several times. But I want you to just see what I'm saying here, Sutton, because I know you're a sensible woman. I just want to point out that when Garcelle walked away, you didn't follow her. You stood there and you talked to the girls. They weren't being that nice about her leaving.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I wish somebody would have followed her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, Sutton, you go after the picture, Sutton. What I would have done would have said, guys, give me a couple minutes. Let me go speak to her before we take this picture. You didn't do that. And then when you went to the room and saw that she had left, you said, oh, I thought we were going to supper again. It was about you, Sutton, and it wasn't about, oh, my God, I'm sick. Should I have come sooner? Should I have not let her go? No. You're worried about who you're going to sit and eat with.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I mean, let's play devil's advocate a little bit. Like, Garcelle said something nice about Sutton, and Sutton chose to suck up to Erica, the same person who Card called Garcelle uninteresting. She probably felt totally on her own after that. And I know a lot of people, like, on my social media, I asked questions like, what did you think? A lot of people were upset that Garcelle left and feels like she can dish it, but she can't take it. But you have to also understand somebody's, like, mentally where they're at at that moment, if they're very hurt and very sad. And I don't think she was. I think she was sad and upset, and she felt like she was pushed out on an island by herself. And so that's why she was reacting like that. I probably would have done the same thing. So you can't really judge until you're in that position, but.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then Dory yells at her. That was so unprofessional.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, please. Please. Dorit. Dorit was two hours late to the reunion last year because she was having that cape put over her head or whatever. It was like that outfit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So would never be allowed to be two hours late in trillion years.

[Tamara Judge]

But that's unprofessional. She's. She did the whole reunion. She. That's professional. She didn't want to take a picture. That's just being pissed off, I think. I don't think has.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You're not that's being a phony, because the cast picture shows that you're all moving on from whatever it was that you spoke about, that we're in a picture together. And she was like, I'm not. I'm getting up and I'm leaving. But at the same time, and I'm going to say Dory has the right to not like her for what she said about her home invasion. It's kind of like you can't come back from that. So I'm not going to be mad. I'm not mad at Dorit for saying that to her. I'm not. I can't be. But. But I think that everybody runs after everybody when they walk off or run off. I think the nail. That the nail in the coffin was getting. Getting her kind of her ass handed to her a little bit by Bose. And I think that there's like kind of a pecking order. Like, I was here before you.

[Tamara Judge]

I think so, too. I think so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You don't know how to really say it. It's just. That's what I mean.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that would bug me too. I think that I'm more mad at Sutton for not sticking by her side. I think Sudden should have stuck up for Garcelle because Garcelle has stuck up for so many years. You know, listen, I don't. Do you think. Let me ask you a question here. So there's two ways of looking at this. Garcelle said at the very beginning of this show this year, everyone can take a cast photo. Was it a pre planning her. Was she pre planning her walkout or was it like she did not? Because I don't think so. I think that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think so.

[Tamara Judge]

Got irritated as time went on for those hours you're sitting there and she's like, out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm not gonna say she didn't have one foot out the door and one on a banana peel. I'm not going to say that she wasn't on her last leg. There was still redemption there while she sat there. The fact that she stayed through the whole thing and never got up and walked off and left, the fact that she didn't do it until the end tells me that she sat there waiting for something different to happen. Yeah, she was giving it a chance.

[Tamara Judge]

She was. And she was getting more irritated as time went on, that's for sure.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I think if someone. Anybody there would have given her this much, maybe a smile, maybe. How about after she said, no one smiled at me and no one gave a. That she Said it really. They were like, well, yeah, we're not smiling at anybody. But they kind of were. There was a. You know, they do. Like, you sit next to someone, you talk to the person you're next to, or. Well, there was.

[Tamara Judge]

There was some information from the cast that said that Garcelle never got close to Nibidi. She checked in, she clocked in, she clocked out afterwards.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what you get. I mean, you had no friends.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Like, sometimes we will film like we filmed yesterday. And then afterwards you hang out for a little while and you talk and, you know, but if you're just go do your scene, you get out and you're gone. You know, you're putting that message out there that may potentially that's what it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is that you didn't put your time in.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Relationships aren't, you know, if you're going to be on the show, you really kind of form relationships with people outside of it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, the ping pock box said, I think Sutton was a catalyst for Garcelle leaving. Sutton has no loyalty. Then Trish the Dish 912 says, I wish Garcelle would have said everything on set stage that she said back in her dressing room to her team. And I agree with that. I wish she would have spoke her mind because it really was like, okay, I'm out. I don't want to do this anymore, you know, f all of you. But why? Why wouldn't you tell them why? Tell me why you don't, you know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, because again, when you're so hurt, like when I'm hurt or when I'm mad or when I'm upset set. It takes me a minute to articulate everything that I feel. I don't think that about her. She's very well spoken and, you know, she's got a lot more going on as far as jobs and producing and things like that. But, you know, I mean, like you just said, echoing what you just said and going back to what you just said, there is still a degree of what can you, you know, humanly, like, when you're hurt, just can't even. Sometimes you can't just.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, I get it. That's a good. That's a very good point. A very good point. I mean, at least she said how she felt backstage with her glam team and all that. So we did get kind of a button on that. I. I'm curious, has Garcelle talked to Sutton since the reunion's been over? And what is Sutton thinking? Because she is, like, I heard no, she's. It's. Sutton is going to drown without Garcelle by her side next year.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We'll see.

[Tamara Judge]

We'll see who's gonna be her best buddy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's gonna stick up and get Kyle some more practical crystals. I mean, she's holding a crystal that's the size of my.

[Tamara Judge]

How many times did she drop that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, enough. But, like, honestly.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, I know that was. I'm like, what is that? What is she throwing in this size, too?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They come in this size.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. She had this, like, big old amethyst or whatever hand.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's just this little thing. So those are my thoughts. Those are my thoughts.

[Tamara Judge]

So Beverly Hills is done. Miami is coming out next month.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They have a new.

[Tamara Judge]

Very excited about that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love Maristal and Mike, Gertie and Alexis. See?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I love them all. I really do. You know, it's always sad to say goodbye to another season of any show. Well, not all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I told you. Because then you have to fill that. That gap.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yep. So that all that means is we're going to be having some new shows come out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I enjoyed this very much.

[Tamara Judge]

This is very fun.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This is very fun. And. And I think we agree on a lot of things.

[Tamara Judge]

We agree that we're going to get ourselves into big trouble one day.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

100%. I'm waiting. Love you.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Thank you so much. Let's all get in trouble together.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Garcelle Beauvais]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Garcelle Beauvais]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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