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Tamara Judge
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Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tama.
Teddy Mellencamp
Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. I'm never going to be able to say that again without thinking about Miguel.
Lisa Rinna
Why?
Teddy Mellencamp
What did he say when he was.
Tamara Judge
Like, hi, we've reached another episode of two T's in a Pod with Teddy Vo.
Teddy Mellencamp
Now I'm like, I gotta have a little bit more pep in my step.
Tamara Judge
When I say it.
Lisa Rinna
He is booked and busy.
Teddy Mellencamp
I know.
Lisa Rinna
I just saw him at some event. I know.
Teddy Mellencamp
He was dancing with Lisa Rinna.
Lisa Rinna
I know. Remember he were at lunch and he's like, so you guys going to Lisa Rinna's party? And we both get. We weren't invited, But we didn't make it. And he's like, oh, oh. It's not really her party. It's a brand party. We're like, don't try to soften the blow.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, don't. Yeah, we don't.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, we don't know. We didn't know about it.
Lisa Rinna
No, no, it's okay, Lisa.
Tamara Judge
I can't make it out past 5pm anyway, so.
Lisa Rinna
I know. Real Housewives of Miami season 7 reunion part 3. Do you think we needed a part 3?
Teddy Mellencamp
Absolutely not.
Lisa Rinna
I didn't think so either.
Tamara Judge
I didn't think so either.
Teddy Mellencamp
I mean, I think it was good in the way that, like, yes, we.
Tamara Judge
Got conflict and resolution everywhere. Like, everybody made up, everybody's in a good place.
Teddy Mellencamp
But I'm not sure we needed it.
Lisa Rinna
I'm not sure we needed it either. But I did like that we. I felt like Lisa did a good job. Like when she starts talking about getting emotional, saying no one knows what she went through with her dad, and she felt no one asked her how she was doing, I kind of related to that, you know, and it's a tough situation when you're going through something hard and none of your cast members give a shit.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, because everybody's thinking about what they're gonna say next instead of asking how you're doing.
Lisa Rinna
Do you think they were hard on Lisa this year?
Teddy Mellencamp
I think they were hard on Lisa this year, but I also think that she did some things, you know, with.
Tamara Judge
The being late and those types of things that kind of pissed everybody off.
Lisa Rinna
Who on your cast was always late?
Teddy Mellencamp
Who on my cast? Dorit.
Tamara Judge
Remember the. The scene?
Lisa Rinna
Yes, yes.
Teddy Mellencamp
But she wasn't always late. She was just late sometimes. I mean, most of the time everybody.
Tamara Judge
Was pretty prompt because we. Everybody gets annoyed when people are late. You know, there was one time Erica was late and we were all, like, sitting in the Sprinter and waiting and waiting and waiting.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. We have one person in our cast that's always late. I think it was a storyline to share. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Being late bugs. But, you know, it happens to everybody. But I think that Lisa says she had a party to honor Alexia's mom when she passed. Kiki says under her breath. So now we are comparing grief. Yeah. I thought it was a fair point.
Tamara Judge
For Lisa to make.
Teddy Mellencamp
If nobody asked me about a parent.
Tamara Judge
Passing, I'd be a little upset too, right? Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
And to know that your cast members had a party for, you know, somebody else but not for you, and they're not really acknowledging it. And she's kind of getting some. She got some this season. Like, why are you going to do this if your dad's so sick?
Tamara Judge
Yeah. And then Larsa, which is made feel.
Lisa Rinna
Bad, by the way. It's a valid question.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, it is.
Lisa Rinna
And I think her answer was something along the lines where my dad wanted me to do what I do best.
Tamara Judge
He wanted me to shine and I did. Or something like that.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
But Larsa tells Lisa she made her feel bad. Lisa gets mad that Larsa isn't letting her talk.
Tamara Judge
And then Alexia chimes in, enough is enough.
Lisa Rinna
Enough is enough.
Teddy Mellencamp
Enough is enough.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
But, yeah, so, I mean, I think that part was good, though, because we.
Tamara Judge
Get where kind of Lisa was coming from, and we do see a lot of growth throughout Lisa. This reunion, this third part of the reunion, you see that she's.
Lisa Rinna
And even Andy made a comment like he's seen growth.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. Which Jody is probably seeing growth too, which is probably good for getting that ring.
Lisa Rinna
Can I ask you a question?
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Why do the guys show up to the reunion but they're not on the reunion? Eddie would rather poke his eyeballs out with nails than sit in my dressing room for 10 hours.
Tamara Judge
Sit in your dressing room for 10 hours and watch you talk about things that you probably talk about already all the time.
Lisa Rinna
Right.
Tamara Judge
Like, I don't get that.
Lisa Rinna
I thought. I thought for sure that the guys were going to be on stage.
Tamara Judge
No, no.
Lisa Rinna
I mean, if they're already there. Put their asses on stage.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. If they're already there.
Teddy Mellencamp
I know.
Tamara Judge
The fact that they just sit there.
Teddy Mellencamp
And they don't even sit together.
Lisa Rinna
No.
Tamara Judge
The way we're seeing it.
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Teddy Mellencamp
But then Lisa brings up Larsa insinuating.
Tamara Judge
Jody was on drugs. She and Jody had nights where she admits. And she gets emotional as she's saying this.
Teddy Mellencamp
They almost broke up because of his.
Tamara Judge
Reputation being on the line. I mean, this also makes sense.
Lisa Rinna
Well, I'll tell you what. If they were doing that to Eddie, he would be like, f off.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, F off.
Lisa Rinna
And, you know, that happened with him one season where they're insinuating he's gay and some jerk comes on and says he saw him make out with a guy and all this stuff. And that's what. That's when he's like, no, this is so toxic.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Like, people can't just. I just hate when people just make up blatant lies. Yeah. It's not cool.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. Then.
Lisa Rinna
Especially for the guys.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
So, I mean, but you can kind of tell that even at this point that Lisa and Larsa are starting to.
Tamara Judge
Get softer towards one another and realize, like, what good friends they are and that they want to kind of patch things up.
Lisa Rinna
But also, if you're like, we're going in my room to do A.C. you're not going in there to do Anderson Cooper. You're not in there to do Andy Cohen. So I see where the girls. But just certain lines, like, maybe you shouldn't cross. I mean, that's. But ac, that's rich coming from me.
Teddy Mellencamp
But I think saying ac, like, we're gonna.
Tamara Judge
They didn't say we're doing ac. They said, we're gonna go get some AC because, like, you know how sometimes when you're filming, they make you turn off the AC because it makes noise?
Lisa Rinna
Well, also, they. I had talked to Jody and Lisa because they called me after this aired and they said all the doors were open in the house.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
So even with the air conditioning on, the humidity in the. You know how hot it is in Miami was just going through the house and they're like, we've had it. Let's go somewhere where the door is shut, where we have some A.C. yeah.
Tamara Judge
So I think that makes sense. I think that's a valid. A valid thing because I wouldn't want to be sitting there sweating while the girls are fighting out in the sweat box.
Lisa Rinna
They're like, we're sweating our balls off. We're not the people that are, you know, here. The cameras aren't in front of us.
Teddy Mellencamp
Like, let's go have a drink and.
Tamara Judge
Have some air conditioning.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. Or let's just get away from the cameras.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. Why? We have the time.
Teddy Mellencamp
Julia and Lisa are going back and forth about the Marbella trip, and Stephanie asked the rules on her plane were that bad. Stephanie says, what were the rules?
Lisa Rinna
No shoes.
Tamara Judge
No, it was no shoes. Put your toilet paper in the trash can and no scratching anything.
Lisa Rinna
No scratching anything?
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
Like, try to.
Lisa Rinna
What if your butt itches?
Teddy Mellencamp
No, they. She means her seats and stuff.
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Teddy Mellencamp
Like, nobody wants to do that. But I don't think that that was actually. I mean, Lisa was making very clear.
Tamara Judge
Points at this reunion.
Teddy Mellencamp
I don't think that.
Tamara Judge
I don't think Stephanie, when she said those things, realized that she made it seem like people were going to be separated on the plane, but that's really what it felt like.
Lisa Rinna
Okay.
Tamara Judge
That's my guess. But I don't know. I don't really know.
Teddy Mellencamp
Then Andy brings up the cake equation.
Tamara Judge
Mm.
Teddy Mellencamp
Kiki says, looking back, it does look mean. Adriana cries about her age. Marisol says she called her knees wrinkled and that she's having a knee procedure now.
Lisa Rinna
I want that knee procedure.
Tamara Judge
I don't. I want something, but I don't want that yet.
Lisa Rinna
You don't need it yet. You're not old enough. But as you get older, your knees. The skin on your knees start to sag. The skin on your arms start to sag.
Tamara Judge
My arms are a whole doozy of a sitch. No, they are, because I used to have muscles and now I don't. So they're just.
Lisa Rinna
So the skin sags.
Tamara Judge
The skin sags?
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. As soon as you start working out, it'll come back. It's. But when you get older, it's the actual skin texture.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
So you can build your muscle all you want. You're still going to have a little bit of a sagginess in your knees.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
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Teddy Mellencamp
Adriana, I thought was being hypocritical here because I think in her mind, since she and Marisa are close in age and have a long history, her knee comments are the same.
Tamara Judge
As Kiki calling her old.
Teddy Mellencamp
But I mean, Adriana has to realize But I had kind of forgotten that.
Tamara Judge
The reason that Adriana was so pissed off was because Marisol was like not was kind of refusing to be with her on the same yacht. Yeah, I forgot about that part.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah, but she didn't have to say that. She was an old and her knees are saggy.
Tamara Judge
No, she didn't need that.
Lisa Rinna
I mean, there could have been some. But you know what? When you're in the heat of it and you're mad, you say things you don't mean and you know that's where the reunion comes in. You can be like, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that.
Tamara Judge
But I did.
Teddy Mellencamp
But did Adriana say that she was sorry.
Lisa Rinna
I don't remember if she did or not. I don't know. I guess I'm just not sensitive to it. Don't really care.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Hard for me to wrap my brain around that.
Teddy Mellencamp
But I do think, you know, all of the knee comments and all of.
Tamara Judge
Those types of things, I do think that they do end up. Even if you don't care about your age or you're not thinking about something, if somebody points it out, then all of a sudden you are thinking about it. And that's why, you know, Marisol.
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Lisa Rinna
I mean, one. Or went in for the procedure one time. I did. I think last year I did a confessional and the skin on my arms looked saggy. And it's like sometimes those lights are. And I'm not saying they're not, but not as bad as those bright lights you've ever gone into like a Nordstrom.
Tamara Judge
Oh, yes.
Lisa Rinna
Dressing room. And I'm like, what the. I look like I have cellulite over my entire body. Like, I didn't know you can have cellulite on your fingertips.
Teddy Mellencamp
You know.
Lisa Rinna
And I think it can be. Sometimes the lights are really harsh. But that has, like caused me to be like, you know what? I'm not wearing short sleeves or sleeveless dresses at the, you know, at my confessional. I even like before the reunion was like really hitting the weights really hard because I knew I was wearing a, a sleeveless dress and I really looked for one with sleeves.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
And couldn't find one. But you know what I did find?
Tamara Judge
What?
Lisa Rinna
Westmore Beauty.
Tamara Judge
I know. I love Westmore guys.
Lisa Rinna
If you've never tried Westmore Beauty, it is like a body makeup. You put it on with a brush. It makes your skin look flawless.
Teddy Mellencamp
It looks like silk.
Lisa Rinna
Yes. So I Especially in pictures. So I used to use Sally Hansen's like the leg spray and all that. But sometimes it looks a little mannequiny.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
I still like it, but this just gives you a shimmer. It's beautiful.
Tamara Judge
It's perfection. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Then they take a little five minute break and Larsa goes into Lisa's dressing.
Tamara Judge
Room to talk to Jody. At first it starts to almost get heated again.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
And then Larsa apologizes for bringing him into this. Jody says the last time he saw.
Teddy Mellencamp
Marcus was a year ago.
Tamara Judge
They hug and make up. Larsa's pretty much like, this is what I've been saying the entire time. You know? You know, all you had to do was that. And Lisa apologizes.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. No, I thought that was a very good scene. I think that Lisa was purposely not unfollowing him because she was annoyed with Larsa.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, I agree.
Lisa Rinna
I mean, I talked to Larsa when this aired, and I go, oh, my gosh. Like, I still follow him from Trader Days. Do you want me to unfollow? And she said, yes, and I did.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Like, it doesn't mean that much to me. I'm not that close to him.
Teddy Mellencamp
I have a question. When we interviewed Larsa, was that before.
Tamara Judge
Or after she had filmed the reunion? Before. That was before.
Lisa Rinna
I think it was before because I.
Tamara Judge
Remember she still was having issues with Lisa when we did that interview. So that's why I was trying to.
Lisa Rinna
Remember the time it was before it was before. So hopefully things are better with them. How long do you think this truce between Lisa and Larsa is going to last?
Tamara Judge
I think it's going to last. I think it's going to last, and I think it's going to rotate to some of the other women because this was a lot about them this season, and I think people are over it.
Lisa Rinna
We need for it to last. There's nothing worse on housewife shows where the same fights happen.
Teddy Mellencamp
You mean we need it not to last.
Lisa Rinna
No, we.
Teddy Mellencamp
We.
Lisa Rinna
What I'm saying is we need their truce to last.
Tamara Judge
Yes.
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Lisa Rinna
Because there's nothing worse than hearing the same damn fight year after year after year. Like, nobody wants to hear it.
Tamara Judge
No. We want to move on.
Lisa Rinna
I don't want to hear. That's why I will always apologize. Even if I'm right. Let's move on.
Teddy Mellencamp
So you're like, I'm just always gonna apologize.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
No matter what.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
I mean, sometimes other people should apologize and they don't. And then you're stuck with the same shit over and over and over.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. And it's.
Lisa Rinna
I think housewives that can't move on should be fired.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, then Andy asked Gertie for the latest health update. She says she's doing great and finding her groove back.
Tamara Judge
She decided not to do multiple reconstructive surgeries. She gets emotional during this part. She.
Teddy Mellencamp
You can tell, I think during this.
Tamara Judge
Reunion, she doesn't feel connected to really anybody.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. That's a hard position to be in.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Been there, done that. Now when she says she needs reconstructive surgeries, did she have a double mastectomy? Did she? I'm not quite sure.
Teddy Mellencamp
I think she had a double mastectomy.
Tamara Judge
And then she had her boobs done. And then, like, something was still. Like there was a ripple or something, and she had when she was filming the show, when we had seen a scene where she said she was going to get another surgery and her husband had not wanted her to get it. And then she's saying she didn't end up getting it.
Lisa Rinna
He's a solid guy.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. He seems like a really nice guy.
Lisa Rinna
He is an angel. Like, he's like, no, I don't. You know, it doesn't bother me.
Tamara Judge
Like, and when he showed the scene, like, when they showed the, like, flashback of him just saying, like, you know, I just love you and I'm so impressed by you and I'm so proud of you and.
Lisa Rinna
But I know. But then also on the flip side, as a woman, if you don't feel secure in yourself, it does affect you in other ways, you know, like, that's why I ended up having reconstructive surgery myself, because I had a big crease that went right through my boob. It looked like I had two boobs on one side.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
So I get it either way.
Teddy Mellencamp
But she decided not to go through.
Tamara Judge
With it, probably because she said she's like, I'm starting to feel better. I'm starting to work out. I'm starting to do those things and I'm starting to feel more like myself again. Which that gave me some hope. I was like, oh, I can't wait till I'm like, at that stage.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah, for sure. And maybe two years down the line, maybe two years down the line, maybe she might go, okay, I'm ready for it.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. And that's okay if she makes that decision.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah, exactly.
Tamara Judge
Totally fine.
Teddy Mellencamp
Then she. Andy asks Gertie if she felt a.
Tamara Judge
Connection between being abandoned by a child and by Julia.
Teddy Mellencamp
Gertie says it felt degrading and traumatic.
Tamara Judge
But it wasn't necessarily that she was feeling abandoned. It's just that it was degrading. What are your thoughts on Julia?
Lisa Rinna
Confusing. I think she's confusing, like, with the apology.
Teddy Mellencamp
She's like, you know, I'm just so.
Tamara Judge
Sorry that bringing her back to pain and blah, blah, blah. Like, well, I hope.
Lisa Rinna
I don't know, to be. I don't know. I. You know, sometimes housewives are persuaded to do things from the comment section on Instagram.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Now, she did admit that Emma hasn't met Julia's boys, but has FaceTime. Why do you think your daughters have an issue with the boys?
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, especially when she kind of explained.
Tamara Judge
It and said, you know, the timing wise, this is what happened, blah, blah, blah.
Teddy Mellencamp
I think they probably feel like, you.
Tamara Judge
Know, I mean, I hate to speak for them, but I probably would feel like, you know, I want more of you. And now all of a sudden you have these two babies and, you know, you've just gone through so many things, you know, like with. With Martinez cancer, all of these different things. They're traveling all the time, and now all of a sudden there's these two new babies. And I think that they're probably, you know, scared, you know, and then we go back to the flashback of her saying, you know, one of the daughters saying, you don't even know where I go to college.
Lisa Rinna
So I'm just speculating. Do you think it's because she felt like the kids felt like you were never really around? As I grew up and I lived in. They lived in a different country.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
And now you're adopting boys, but you weren't there for me. I think it's a natural thing. And it happens a lot when parents divorce.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
The other parent doesn't really see the. The kid and then gets remarried and then has this new family. I mean, I feel like they make movies about this.
Tamara Judge
I think it happens all the time. I think, you know, even as a kid, I remember when my dad got remarried and he had my brothers, like, of course, whether I wanted to or not. I definitely felt some, like, jealousy.
Lisa Rinna
It reminds me of. Do you ever watch the Elton John movie?
Tamara Judge
No. I did. Oh, yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Rocket Man. Was it Rocket Man? Yeah. Where his dad never gave him a lot of attention. And then one day when he becomes famous, he goes to visit him and he's got two siblings and sees his dad hugging them and all this stuff and the pain he went through watching that. And I'm wondering if it's a situation like that.
Teddy Mellencamp
I thought that the.
Tamara Judge
The amount of time that Gertie probably spoke on this reunion wasn't much either.
Lisa Rinna
I don't think that Larsa spoke hardly at all.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, that's true.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. It was very far. Few between comments.
Teddy Mellencamp
And I also noticed that we don't have much conversation, even though she did speak a lot.
Tamara Judge
There's not a lot about Stephanie. No, but she yelled and she had. First she yelled and she yelled loud, loudly.
Lisa Rinna
What'd she say? I forgot.
Tamara Judge
I forget to. Maybe we'll get to it.
Lisa Rinna
Was it shut up or something like that or let me talk or. I don't know. I was here for it.
Tamara Judge
I. You didn't mind the yelling?
Lisa Rinna
Stop talking and let me speak. Is that it?
Tamara Judge
I think so. Stopped. Yeah, stop.
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Teddy Mellencamp
But then.
Lisa Rinna
Do you think she's the first newbie that got first chair.
Tamara Judge
No.
Lisa Rinna
Have there been more others?
Tamara Judge
I think there's been others that have.
Lisa Rinna
Had the first chair. Okay.
Teddy Mellencamp
Am I wrong in thinking that Angie got first chair?
Lisa Rinna
I can't remember.
Tamara Judge
Or she's just middle snowflake.
Lisa Rinna
I can't even remember what I had for breakfast. I actually, I don't think I've had breakfast yet.
Teddy Mellencamp
Kenya. Kenya got had first seat.
Lisa Rinna
Oh, really?
Tamara Judge
Monica had first seat.
Lisa Rinna
I miss Monica.
Tamara Judge
And Shannon had first seat.
Lisa Rinna
Her first year.
Tamara Judge
Her first year.
Lisa Rinna
That's a big deal.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, it's a pretty big deal.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. We, we've had people on our show for years that have never had a first date.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
So first and I never know, like, what does that mean? They've never come out? There's no rule book.
Tamara Judge
No, we just assume.
Lisa Rinna
We just assume. Is it seniority? Is it the people that are most, you know, controversial that season? I don't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
And plus, it's having to match the.
Tamara Judge
Other side of the couch, too.
Lisa Rinna
And it's also a color thing with the dresses.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
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Tamara Judge
Max. Oh my gosh. Julia actually got first seat her first season.
Lisa Rinna
What? What?
Tamara Judge
I know.
Lisa Rinna
I feel like Julie's been a slow roll.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, I feel like she's been a slow roll and she.
Lisa Rinna
We went with like goats with diapers on to I ate somebody's.
Tamara Judge
Right.
Lisa Rinna
Right. I can't. I mean, am I wrong?
Teddy Mellencamp
I mean, pretty much Julia for me has been a difficult one. She's my most difficult.
Lisa Rinna
I agree.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. But anyway, Andy Then says, recently on Dr. Nicole's podcast, she accused an unnamed friend of. Of hiring a private investigator to dig up information on her hopes of getting a mojito. Maricel says, prove it or go to court. Prove it or go to court.
Lisa Rinna
I would say the same thing. I would absolutely say the same thing. If somebody's bringing out a private investigator to dig up or whatever they do. Show me the proof. Show me the proof or I'm gonna sue your ass. Yeah, I think that's what she said. Right? We'll go to court. Prove it.
Teddy Mellencamp
Prove it.
Lisa Rinna
I'll go to court. I mean, I find it hard to believe that Marisol hired a private investigator.
Teddy Mellencamp
No, I think Marisol is just. You know, when we even found out.
Tamara Judge
That Marisol's been sending Stephanie all of her press, I think Marisol is just online and looks at stuff.
Lisa Rinna
Okay. By the way, we all do that.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
If there's a story that breaks out and you have certain friends on the show, you send it to them. Yeah, you send it to them. And it's not like, go do my dirty work. Here, let me send this to you.
Teddy Mellencamp
No, it's like, here's a heads up.
Lisa Rinna
I mean, I'll never forget. Me and Gina filmed a scene before we went. I think this is two years ago, before we went on a trip. We're at a luggage store. Okay, whatever. Very fitting. And as cameras went down and we're walking out, it comes up, Heather Debrow sold her house for $55 million.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
And I sent it to Gina. I'm like, oh, my God. We could have talked about that.
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Lisa Rinna
You know, that's like. You know, because she didn't tell anybody that she was selling her house. We found out about it on, you know, right after filming.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. So it happens all the time. So I don't think that Marisol is doing anything horrible. Like, here you go. And plus, Marisol was in pr.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
So PR People are on top of that shit.
Tamara Judge
She sees it, she wants to send it.
Lisa Rinna
So you said you'd love to see Dr. Nicole back next season.
Teddy Mellencamp
I would, but this comment is a.
Tamara Judge
Little bit confusing to me and why she's doing it.
Lisa Rinna
Why? What do you mean?
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, Dr. Nicole saying that she accused.
Tamara Judge
Like, why she's accusing Marisol right now when she's not on the show.
Lisa Rinna
Because she has a podcast now.
Tamara Judge
True.
Lisa Rinna
And when you have a podcast, you know, you talk about.
Tamara Judge
Do you.
Teddy Mellencamp
Is that what people do on podcasts?
Lisa Rinna
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Tell me more, because I definitely never.
Tamara Judge
Accused anybody of anything.
Lisa Rinna
Well, I know. Well, evidently, I'm. I am in trouble, probably. By Wendy, that comment I said about somebody sliding into my dm, saying that and repeating it. I had no idea it was going to get so many head. It was on Page Six this morning, and I don't know if it's. I'm just saying this is whistling in my DMs. And then up in. Adam said on his podcast, he said, well, now that Tamara's mentioned it, he slid in. Somebody slid into my DMs and said the same thing. So I sent him a message, and I go, is it this person? He goes, yes. And he sent me what she sent him.
Teddy Mellencamp
So this person could either be telling.
Tamara Judge
The truth, or it could be a complete random stranger that has no idea what's going on.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, exactly. We have. No. It's not like we're checking sources here.
Lisa Rinna
No, no. That was one of my questions in my confessionals. Do you guys check sources? I know I'm not Anderson Cooper. No.
Teddy Mellencamp
Andy asks who manipulates who, and Alexia and Marisol's dynamic. I think Marisol is one of those.
Tamara Judge
People that always wants to help people behind the scenes.
Lisa Rinna
Well, she does come from a PR background, so the fact that she helped Adriana with the wretched ratchet situation.
Tamara Judge
I.
Lisa Rinna
Think that's how her mind works. I think that's how her mind programmed that. The thing that's confusing is they don't like each other. Why are you trying to help somebody? I don't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, I mean, because the ratchet combo comes up. It's brought up. Marisol apologizes to Kiki for trying to.
Tamara Judge
Help Adriana.
Lisa Rinna
Which was good.
Tamara Judge
Which was good that she apologized for that.
Lisa Rinna
But Adriana never admitted to saying that word.
Tamara Judge
I still couldn't understand what word Adriana was saying ratchet. Yeah. But when she was saying it on the couch, she still was saying it a little more like wretched.
Lisa Rinna
But Marisol, did you see Marisol is selling Mama Elsa's house?
Tamara Judge
I know.
Lisa Rinna
I know. It should be like a museum.
Tamara Judge
What about Stephanie's face when she was like, when Andy said, you know, I know you talk to your mom. Your mom. And Stephanie's like, what?
Teddy Mellencamp
What do you mean?
Lisa Rinna
How she goes Spiritually. Yeah, spiritually. I talked to my mom, but she.
Tamara Judge
Says her mom has no ties to the house anymore.
Lisa Rinna
Right, right. That would be hard to sell the house.
Tamara Judge
That would be hard to sell the house. But also, I. You know, at some point, you have to let go. You have to let it go.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Andy wants to end On a positive note, this part was like, okay, so Stephanie says she. After Stephanie is already in the past.
Tamara Judge
You know, said she doesn't trust anybody. She has no real friends. There's no, you know, there's no trust here.
Teddy Mellencamp
Then she says, Stephanie says this is the top five best experiences in her.
Tamara Judge
Life, that she has real friends, and that she hasn't, you know, hasn't replaced her relationship with her sisters. But she does feel more connected now.
Teddy Mellencamp
And I'm like, stephanie, which one is it?
Lisa Rinna
I think what she's trying to say, I. I think Stephanie is the type of girl that spends a lot of time with her husband and a lot of time working.
Tamara Judge
Right.
Lisa Rinna
I'm not saying she doesn't have girlfriends, but I. She's just one of those girls that maybe doesn't spend a lot of time with girls. And now she's placed on the show, and that's all we do for four months. Yeah, we go shopping, we go out to eat. We have parties. And you're spending a lot of time with girls. And I think that, like, opened her mind. Like, hey, I like this.
Tamara Judge
I like this. Or these are things that maybe I should change or I should edit about the way.
Lisa Rinna
I mean, I'm like that. I'm very much a homebody. Spend most of my time with kids and my husband, and I'm trying to push myself out of that box to, like, go spend more time with the friends that I have and nourish those friendships that I have.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. No, that makes sense.
Teddy Mellencamp
Then Andy says he's impressed with Lisa's growth. Gertie pulls out her book to plug it, since it's about trauma and trophies.
Tamara Judge
And Andy goes, are you going to.
Teddy Mellencamp
Plug your book right now?
Lisa Rinna
Okay, what did you think about that?
Teddy Mellencamp
I mean, I wish it would have been different if Andy would have been like, hey, talk to me about your book. And she would have pulled it out.
Lisa Rinna
It was a little much. It would be like me, you know, pulling out a bottle of, you know, Vena cbd. Oh, I have these night gummies.
Tamara Judge
And.
Lisa Rinna
And by the way, get a microphone on. Two T's in a pod. Like, we're gonna. Yeah, we're gonna broadcast right now.
Teddy Mellencamp
Like, or just wearing your two teas.
Tamara Judge
In a pod bedazzled shirt to the reunion.
Lisa Rinna
Well, I thought about just getting a dress that said two teas in a pod in sequence.
Teddy Mellencamp
You'd have to get the right color, though.
Lisa Rinna
I know that would have been difficult. I know.
Teddy Mellencamp
Then Kiki says she feels like she has a group of husbands since they.
Tamara Judge
Are tough like men.
Lisa Rinna
She has a group of husbands.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
What does she mean, like the girls?
Tamara Judge
The girls are like her husbands.
Teddy Mellencamp
Marisol loves what she does, and Julia says this was the best and the worst season for her.
Lisa Rinna
Do you think Julia's back?
Tamara Judge
I don't know. Like, truthfully, I really don't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
I think that watching her, this reunion.
Tamara Judge
She kind of just melted back into who she was. Season one. Mm.
Lisa Rinna
Now, do you think there's any truth to the rumors of coming out about Martina being very upset with her about the reunion and there's divorce rumors and things like that?
Teddy Mellencamp
I mean, I don't know if there's.
Tamara Judge
Any divorce, anything like that, but I would imagine that Martina is upset. I would be upset.
Lisa Rinna
I know. I just. Do you think it was in her best interest to bring this up after just adopting two kids?
Tamara Judge
No.
Teddy Mellencamp
Especially because Adriana I don't think was.
Tamara Judge
Going to bring it up. No.
Lisa Rinna
I asked her when I saw her.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
In New York, and she's like, no.
Tamara Judge
She told me the same thing.
Lisa Rinna
And she also said that she wasn't holding it over her head at all.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. But do we trust Adriana?
Lisa Rinna
I really like her. Like, when I met her, she's extremely intelligent. You know, you never know. You know, like, you meet people on a show and it's not your own cast and you don't know them that deeply. You're like, they're lovely. Like every housewife I've ever met, I've always thought I. Oh, they're lovely.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
You know, but when you work with somebody, it's different. You get to know them. Like, the fight started, you know? But Larsa recently posted a story with Julia and Martina and Kiki. So it looks like they're doing okay.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, it must. They must be doing okay. And I would assume last time Martina came to BravoCon, so if Julia's coming, I bet Martina would be there.
Lisa Rinna
I really enjoyed Martina this season. I felt like she was on the show more often. You didn't.
Teddy Mellencamp
The things that she said, Tam, what part of the things that she said?
Tamara Judge
Well, one.
Teddy Mellencamp
The part about what she said, how she doesn't believe in surrogacy.
Lisa Rinna
Oh, that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What I'm saying, she was more in. I don't agree with that at all, but I'm. And she didn't say that on the show. She said that on Twitter or whatever. X. Whatever it's called. But I'm saying she was more engaged this season. Yeah, we saw more of her. I love seeing her with the boys. I mean, how would Martina feel if, you know, Andy Cohen put out there? I don't agree with adoption. How would. How would she feel? How would Martina feel about that?
Tamara Judge
I. I can't imagine she would.
Lisa Rinna
Knowing that Andy Cohen used a surrogate and so many other people have. Yeah.
Tamara Judge
I mean, it's such a. Off the. It. It's so hard to even fathom that she would say that for me. It's hard for me to move on from that.
Lisa Rinna
I know firsthand I have somebody that's extremely close to me. She's, you know, in her early 30s. She's married, been trying to have a baby for a long time, and has had two tubal pregnancies. She has lost both of her tubes, which means she cannot have a baby on her own.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
So now it's like, you know, now she's weighing her options out. She wants a baby more than anything in the world, so she's. She's really looking at all her options. Like, some people, you know, they want to be pregnant, they want to have children, and it's just not. Not going to work out for them.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
You know, and I don't think that you should. I don't think that you should knock anybody.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. No matter what their reasoning is. Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Then Larsa says she has good friendships with them. And then she goes, even Adriana.
Lisa Rinna
It's like, Britney. Even Britney.
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Lisa Rinna
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Teddy Mellencamp
Well, because she's a friend of.
Lisa Rinna
Oh, okay.
Tamara Judge
That's my. That's my reason.
Lisa Rinna
So you think because she was a friend of. She's. Okay.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, that. That's my guess. Because she's a friend of. She didn't get it.
Teddy Mellencamp
And then Alexia cries about how the girls were there for her. Who do you think should be the.
Tamara Judge
Most worried about coming back?
Lisa Rinna
Oh, that's a tough one, because I tell you, I never know what the network's thinking.
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Lisa Rinna
You know, after the season's over, they do focus groups. I don't know how much they look into social media anymore. I don't know what all goes into it. So it's really, really difficult.
Teddy Mellencamp
So let's go through the list. It's Alexia, Lisa, Julia, Gertie, Larsa, Marisol.
Tamara Judge
Adriana, Kiki, and Stephanie.
Teddy Mellencamp
So I would say Stephanie's definitely back.
Lisa Rinna
I say Julia's on the bottom of the list.
Teddy Mellencamp
You say Julia's on the bottom of the list?
Lisa Rinna
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Alexi is back. No doubt. Marisol is back. I would like to see Marisol as a housewife.
Tamara Judge
I think she'll stay a friend of, but not because she's not great. Just because I think she kind of.
Lisa Rinna
Likes it because she allows it.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
Like Brandi Glanville said, once a side, always a side.
Teddy Mellencamp
Remember that?
Lisa Rinna
But here's the thing with Marisol. She does family stuff. They film in her house. So she's basically a housewife. There's not much different. So I would imagine that her pay is right up there with housewives.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, me too.
Lisa Rinna
So does it really matter at that point? Because at the end of the day, it's all about the ching ching.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
I am fine with the entire cast coming back. Honestly, I think that the lowest on the totem pole would probably be Julia.
Tamara Judge
What a lot of people are saying Adriana.
Lisa Rinna
Adriana moves storylines and she's messy.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Lisa Rinna
And she's a friend of too. Right.
Teddy Mellencamp
But they don't really.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, she's a friend of, but they don't really show her home life at all, I don't think. Well, they're showing more.
Teddy Mellencamp
They're kikis originally.
Lisa Rinna
That's how housewife friends are. No home life, no boyfriend. Husbands really are seen. No life partners. So who knows?
Tamara Judge
Who knows?
Lisa Rinna
I'm fine. I'm fine with the cast.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, I'm fine with the cast, too.
Teddy Mellencamp
And I think that, you know, it was a good season.
Tamara Judge
It wasn't a great season. I think that it'll just keep getting better. I think there. I think Stephanie, as much as I've given her hell, I think she was a good addition.
Lisa Rinna
I told ya. Maybe we can get her on the pod at BravoCon.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, that would be fun.
Lisa Rinna
We need to come up with a list of who we want. Send us a list, guys, of who you want. And we're just going to get them on the fly. Get them in 15 minutes because I know everybody's so busy.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. Send us a list of who your favorites would be and we'll do our best in getting them. But thank you guys so much for tuning in to another episode of two T's in a Pod.
Teddy Mellencamp
We love y'.
Tamara Judge
All.
Lisa Rinna
Bye.
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Tamara Judge
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Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Episode Date: October 19, 2025
In this episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge dive deep into the third and final part of the Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM) Season 7 reunion. With trademark candor, they break down the personalities, drama, emotional moments, and evolving friendships that defined the reunion—particularly analyzing Lisa, Larsa, Stephanie, Gertie, Julia, and more. The pair reflect on authenticity, growth, and housewife archetypes, offering insights only former housewives can. This is a must-listen for Bravo fans craving sharp analysis and some unfiltered fun.
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The episode delivered a thorough postmortem on a bustling season finale, melding housewives insider commentary with laughs, empathy, and blunt observations. Teddi and Tamra deliver both behind-the-scenes scoops and heartfelt moments about loss, body image, and friendship. And with Stephanie’s explosive voice, Gertie’s vulnerability, and Julia’s complicated family, Miami’s housewives again prove why they’re reality TV gold.