Summer House Schoolyard (Summer House Recap)

Summary

Two Ts in a Pod with Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge

Episode: Summer House Schoolyard (Summer House Recap)
Date: March 11, 2026
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp and Dolores Catania (subbing for Tamra Judge)
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

This episode, featuring Teddi Mellencamp and guest co-host Dolores Catania, delivers a lively, unfiltered recap of Summer House Season 10, Episode 6. The pair break down the episode's most dramatic moments, dissect relationship drama, and share their insider housewife perspectives on reality television etiquette, conflict, and strategy. The conversation also opens with the latest Real Housewives of New York (RHONY) influencer drama, setting the stage for insights into both Bravo universes.

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1. Real Housewives of New York Influencer Drama

[02:32 – 09:34]

Key Discussion Points

• Hailey Glassman vs. Claudia Oshry Feud:
  The hosts unpack the ongoing conflict where Claudia (Girl With No Job) accused Hailey Glassman of trolling her since 2017 via hostile DMs, body comments, and more.

• Public Statements and Reactions:
  Teddi reads Hailey’s representative’s statement, focusing on defending Hailey and calling out Claudia’s past controversies. Both hosts find the response unnecessarily incendiary.

  "With that said, Haley stands by her comment regarding her distaste for Claudia’s voice. Why are you so angry?"
  — Teddy Mellencamp quoting Glassman's rep ([05:23])

• Casting Speculation:
  Debate over whether Hailey Glassman will now join RHONY, and whether she’ll bring the "disaster" energy needed.

• Dolores’ Take on Reality TV Responses:

  “You don't have to respond to everything, because now this is a thing.”
  — Dolores Catania ([05:50])

• PR Lessons & Reality TV:
  Both hosts agree it’s best to sometimes let drama go instead of escalating it with public statements.

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2. Summer House Season 10, Episode 6 Recap

A. Sierra, Jesse, and Wes Triangle

[13:41 – 18:18]

• Sierra and Jesse's Non-Romance:
  Dolores is unimpressed with Jesse’s advances on Sierra and finds his approach immature.

  “He’s a horn dog. He was humping her on the raft last year.”
  — Dolores ([14:28])

  Teddi questions why Sierra tolerates his actions ("If you’re not interested, don’t cuddle."). Dolores points out Sierra once liked Jesse but Wes stepped up first.

• Reality TV Relationship Politics:
  Teddi: “Is it worth losing a friendship over a house makeout?”
  Both reflect on when it's appropriate to risk friendships for romantic interests.

• Underlying Double Standards:
  The women mock how male house members treat Sierra, lamenting the lack of straight talk.

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B. Dara and KJ's Low-Key Romance

[18:18 – 19:19 & 49:08 – 49:41]

• KJ’s quiet commitment to Dara is discussed. She’s notably absent, leading to speculation about her priorities and a possible job outside the house.
• The hosts appreciate KJ’s sincere, "hopeless romantic" attitude but poke fun at his claim “I had her first.”

  “Hey Ben, just so you know, I know you can bring in her coffee. Don’t be bringing her coffee.”
  — Dolores ([49:58])

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C. Money, Guilt, and Awkward Table Talk

[19:23 – 26:24]

• Carl vs. Kyle Side Business Drama:
  The group pressures Kyle for not investing in Carl’s non-alcoholic Softbar after Carl invested in Loverboy. Dolores and Teddi agree such money discussions are tricky amongst friends.

  “I was told a long time ago if you loan someone money, don’t expect to get it back.”
  — Dolores ([22:34])

• Product Placement Irony:
  Both hosts remark on Loverboy’s omnipresence despite claims it’s not prospering.

• Gift Distractions:
  Kyle gives Amanda a Cartier watch right after the money drama, which feels poorly timed to both hosts but classic reality TV.

  “You’re not buying Cartier if you’re broke, unless you borrowed the money.”
  — Dolores ([26:01])

• Kyle & Amanda’s Rocky Marriage:
  The hosts highlight Amanda’s not-so-subtle cracks about “getting a watch out of it,” predicting further relationship trouble.

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D. The Bailey/Ben Table Scandal

[27:12 – 43:09]

• Bailey’s Risky Joke:
  Bailey out-of-nowhere blurts that Ben wants to sleep with Amanda, while Amanda’s husband Kyle is right there. The room freezes; nobody defuses the tension.

  “You just made him look like a scumbag at the table.”
  — Teddy Mellencamp ([30:09])

• Jersey Girl Reactions:
  Dolores imagines how different the reaction would be in her circle:

  “If this was Jersey Shore... someone would do something about it!”
  ([38:20])

• Bailey’s Apology:
  Ben confronts Bailey in private, explaining the harm and discomfort. Bailey gets emotional, referencing her past in an abusive relationship, but the hosts agree Ben handles the confrontation with maturity.

  “He accepted her apology. He did it alone. He didn’t do it in front of people. He was a gentleman about it.”
  — Dolores ([39:35])

• Camaraderie:
  The other women rally to comfort Bailey afterward, underscoring the group’s supportive side.

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E. Afterparty Drama & "Schoolyard" Vibes

[43:09 – 48:54]

• The Sierra/Wes Will-They-Won’t-They:
  After a late night, Wes sits on Sierra. Dolores is exasperated by the ongoing ambiguity, warning against emotional string-along.

• Sierra's Emotional Intelligence:
  The hosts note Sierra’s openness about feelings, contrasting her candor with Wes’ non-committal attitude.

• Vineyard Outings and Social Dynamics:
  Playful power struggles come up, as when Sierra and Wes fight for the front seat, and the ladies gently mock the "schoolyard" antics among the cast.

• Ben’s Relationship Exposed:
  Sierra and Ben discover common ground—both struggling with new relationships and ex drama.

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F. Wrapping Up and Looking Ahead

[50:07 – 51:00]

• Wes admits he misses Sierra, but doubt remains over whether he’ll act on it.
• Both hosts predict more drama and unresolved feelings in episodes to come, teasing next week's trailer.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Reality TV Drama:

  “Talk about me bad. Talk about me good. But talk about me. That’s what Mae West said. One of my idols.”
  — Dolores ([09:06])

• On Money and Friendship:

  “If you loan someone money, don’t expect to get it back.”
  — Dolores ([22:34])

• On Table Talk Tension:

  “I would have got blamed. He would have got blamed. She would have got in trouble for saying it. It would have been a tsunami.”
  — Dolores ([28:42])

• Dolores on Schoolyard Vibes:

  "Between Bailey and Wes, this is like summer house schoolyard where you pick people..."
  ([46:17])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |----------------------------------------------|--------------| | RHONY Influencer Drama | 02:32 – 09:34 | | Summer House Recap Starts | 13:41 | | Sierra / Jesse / Wes Triangle | 13:41 – 18:18 | | Dara & KJ Relationship | 18:18 – 19:19, 49:08 – 49:41 | | Carl / Kyle Financial Drama | 19:23 – 26:24 | | Bailey Table Scandal | 27:12 – 43:09 | | Ben & Bailey Aftermath | 35:57 – 43:09 | | Sierra / Wes Dynamic | 43:09 – 48:54 | | Ben Talks About His Ex | 47:47 – 48:54 | | Wes Admits Missing Sierra | 50:08 – 50:56 | | Looking Ahead / Wrap-Up | 51:00 – 51:21 |

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Final Thoughts

Dolores' Jersey perspective and Teddi’s Bravo-insider lens make for an unfiltered, fast-paced recap:

• They cover drama, mess, and soft moments with humor and candor.
• Listeners get both tactical housewife wisdom and playful reality TV gossip.
• The pair wind down looking forward to escalating tension and the tangled romance to come.

This episode is an entertaining, in-depth play-by-play of Summer House’s latest, with plenty of cross-franchise spice for die-hard Bravo fans.

Transcript

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

Hi guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Dolores Catania.

[Dolores Catania]

Who has food poisoning. That's why I'm dressed like this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She has food poisoning and I'm straight out of immunotherapy. So we're real.

[Dolores Catania]

This is going to be a good one. I got a pastrami sandwich. I was in the mood for a pastrami sandwich from a Jewish deli. And it just went wrong yesterday.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Everything went wrong. Yeah. No, the thought. Did you eat the whole thing?

[Dolores Catania]

No, only half.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, great. So you saved the other half.

[Dolores Catania]

I did. I woke up this morning after being sick all night and all morning I woke up and saw it on and I threw it in the garbage like I was beating it up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I'm glad that you made it. Thank you so much. Before we get into Summer House, we need to talk a little bit about this Real Housewives of New York drama is continuing because we've got a response now. So we were. Yes.

[Dolores Catania]

So originally Glassman, right? Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hailey Glassman. So originally Claudia from Girl with no Job. She said that Hailey Glassman has been trolling her for years, since 2017. She has messages of from her saying, OMG, your voice is so annoying. Like Janice from Friends. Another one. Damn, you were thin, skinny, mini. Now we got to own you're on wovi when you need skin tightening, I will set you up with a plastic surgeon. And you know, her dad's a plastic surgeon.

[Dolores Catania]

Thanks, guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, so she's just awesome.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm not offended. Tell me where to be.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I thought they were just going to leave it be. Like, let it just be, you know, Claudia talking about it. But no. Her reps responded to the Daily Mail

[Dolores Catania]

and also Page Six.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, on Page Six. And it says Glassman's representative, Adrienne Schwartz, exclusively told Daily Mail for an influencer speaking about Claudia who had to apologize for her bullying and racist comments. Even losing her podcast for racism. It's unfortunate she feels the need to attack Ms. Glassman. In 2018, Hashri's podcast, the Morning Breath was canceled after her past anti Muslim tweets were surfaced. Ms. Glassman responded to her posts appropriately, even sending a sweet mazel tov for her birth of her child, offering sound advice to be respectful of her young followers when she seemed to be dishonest regarding using the weight loss drugs, which is legitimate, relevant issue. Let's face it, bullying Ms. Glassman, all while playing the victim after openly having to apologize for your own past bullying is a bad look. Ms. Glassman is in the support of all people. She has expressed, women are beautiful. Every shape, every size. They are sexy. But she says the sexiest of all is her authenticity and respect to all people. With that said, Haley stands by her comment regarding her distaste for Claudia's voice. Why are you so angry?

[Dolores Catania]

She says, See, see, that's. I don't know. That I would have responded.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's what I think.

[Dolores Catania]

She didn't. Here's the thing. She didn't lose her spot on the show if she is, in fact, on the show. See, everybody has to learn every. You don't have to respond to everything.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You don't have to respond to everything, because now this is a thing.

[Dolores Catania]

Now it's a thing. Let's. I think they're gonna like her on the show, and I think they need Haley Glassman on the show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she's gonna be a disaster, which we need.

[Dolores Catania]

Something on that show needs to be done. But, hey, Haley, you know, be yourself. Be yourself. If it's a disaster, let it be.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, clearly, her and Adrian both. I mean, they thought this was a brilliant response.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So that's not a great response. But you know what? I want to give Haley a chance. And also, I saw Evan make an apology. Evan Real from Page Six.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, you did?

[Dolores Catania]

I saw. He made an apology, said she deserves a chance as well.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Everyone deserves a chance.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. And I'd like to. I selfishly want to see her on the show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I want to see her, too. And I want to. I wonder if she's going to be come in, like, hot and messy or she's going to come in reserve.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I hope that this didn't put a damper on. Which she's going to do for all of us.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what I was thinking. I was watching that Netflix show, like, the Con Influencer. She became friends with all these, like, elite New Yorkers and then would steal their credit card information. And I was like, oh, my gosh. I feel like this is all just. We need to get her on next.

[Dolores Catania]

Wait, listen to this. I mean, get her on then, too. Yeah, but Haley doesn't need to steal anybody's money. Her dad's a very famous plastic surgeon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, she's made sure that we know that.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And that Claudia knows that.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, Claudia knows it. Claudia, if you don't want that spot on that table, I'll take it. Claudia. You don't need it, sweetheart. I love. I love Claudia.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love Claudia, too. But, like, can. We'll both take that plastic surgery spot, that opening.

[Dolores Catania]

Listen, I'm all for. I'd be like, yeah, thank you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I was impressed she remembered that that person had been DMing her for years. Would you not remember that? Something like that? I don't think I would.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes, I would. Especially if, like, that's what was said. I did not see the Tweets. I didn't see the. You know, all the back and forths. I've been really busy and sick, so I didn't get to look into it, but I knew it was quite the buzz.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

But, you know, I mean, I. Listen, let's put it behind us and move forward, and let's see what Halle got, because apparently Halle. It did not affect her. Her spot on the show. Do people want Hailey Glassman on the show?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now they're saying no. She's a fan. Like, she's a troll.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, so now she's off to a rough start. Like, she already has to go into this and now do. So people don't want her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she's going into it similar to how Amanda's coming into the season. You know, like, there's so much rumor about her right now, and everybody. There's like, this buzz talking about. Like, remember how everybody was talking about Amanda was in a cold, and Amanda's. This has all this money and.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I think it's. She's being talked about, which they say in reality television that's being talked about as a win.

[Dolores Catania]

Talk about me bad. Talk about me good. But talk about me. That's what Mae west said. One of my idols.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So, yeah, I mean, we're talking about her. And you know who we're not talking about? Anybody else that's coming back on New York.

[Dolores Catania]

There you go. Haley, if you're listening, definitely refer to Teddy if you want to know if you should respond to something, because we'll tell you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, come to us. Come to us. Send me a dm. Haley.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Getting Into Summer House Season 10 Episode 6 It starts off with Sierra and Jesse having a conversation and ending with a side hug. Okay, what are your thoughts on these two in general?

[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

No.

[Dolores Catania]

A big fat no. So I mean like no, Sierra, if I see you even have this conversation with one other boy in this house. Did you happen to see what this girl looks like? Like, I love Jesse, I love Wes. I just saw him on. On a shoe. He's the cutest ever. But Ciara, come talk to aunt Dolores. There's no reason to be talking to these boys in the house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I have a. Would you ever cuddle and do those types of things with Jesse? Like to me, I don't.

[Dolores Catania]

He's a horn dog. He was humping her on the raft last year. But if you're not humping Ciara, something's wrong with you. I need to speak to you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I could do. Maybe I shouldn't have followed him on Instagram. I think that's where I went wrong because now I'm seeing all the singing videos and I like, you know, I

[Dolores Catania]

really like these kids. To me they're kids and I like them all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But Jesse going to west after and tells him he feels bad for upsetting Ciara.

[Dolores Catania]

Lindsay always is good for. She's like a girl's girl and she always is good for telling people what was said behind their back. I love that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But what she said which kind of pissed Sierra off the most was she said west didn't. Said he didn't give a shit. Which that never happened.

[Dolores Catania]

No, that didn't happen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

West from the beginning made it clear he wouldn't like it.

[Dolores Catania]

He's like, is this. Well, he didn't make it clear enough in a Jersey guy kind of way. He's like, is this happening now?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Is this in the war? Is this something in the works?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I'm sorry, but that isn't like. Oh really? You jerk off. Like I compare. They need another Jersey shore house because they need to throw some Jersey people in here because they really handle things differently. And I'm gonna get to Kyle sitting at the table with his wife while somebody's saying that the other guy at the table wants to bang your wife and you just sit there and go, okay guys, let's on to the next. No, no, I need to talk about all of this, Teddy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I need to really break it down. I need to understand why Jesse thinks that he needs to even go and ask if he can make out with

[Dolores Catania]

Ciara because they were an item. If you were dating and we have this going on in Southern Charm with Charlie and Sally, like is it worth, is that move worth losing a friendship? Is what you have to think.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But also it's different to say I really like this person. I agree with Ciara here when she says, you know, if you would have asked to actually date me.

[Dolores Catania]

And yeah, she was absolutely right. She's very smart.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But she's like, no, you know, he

[Dolores Catania]

just asked to make out with me. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And so you think you had a chance. I would feel so embarrassed if I was Jesse.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't think he's embarrassed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think he's a little bit embarrassed because when he walked in the room and he had his.

[Dolores Catania]

He was hiding for two seconds. For two seconds he felt bad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

For two seconds he felt bad until he had a lover boy drink and then forgot about it.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, that's not really feeling bad. But I'm glad that they kind of. I think she handled it well. But what she, she didn't say to him, like, I would have loved to hear Sierra say, bro, no chance. Like, I'm not interested in you. I didn't hear her say that because

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she was a little bit. I mean I wouldn't push my butt up into somebody's cuddling if I wasn't interested a little bit. You know the back cuddles when you like push yourself in.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. You spoon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So listen. But there was something. And you know, she did think of him before Wes. They had a talk last season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And the talk was, you could have. I liked you. She told Jesse I liked you. But you know, Wes came first. You didn't try to go out with me or like, or do anything or make a move towards me. So that's how I wound up with Wes. But you were the first interest.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she did say that. So I mean either way she's so stunning and these guys are such a. That like, I mean, I love girl.

[Dolores Catania]

What I wouldn't do with that, I'd be on a yacht in Monaco. I would be the Princess of Monaco by now. Just get out of here.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You mean you wouldn't be looking for every guy with dad bod. And well then we get to the next thing which I'm also confused about. So then we get to know who doesn't want to just play the field? Kj. KJ is into Dara.

[Dolores Catania]

What a lovely guy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, where is Dara?

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know. He gave her a nice send off

[Teddy Mellencamp]

but like, so they boned and then she like, does she, is she on the show or not on the show.

[Dolores Catania]

He likes her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know he likes her. I mean, they. Flashbacks of all their phone calls and stuff like that. But I expected her. Like, maybe she was just not going to be there on Fridays. Maybe she has a real job and she has to work Monday through Friday, and then we'll see her Saturday at summer house. But she never came.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know. I mean, I don't know. She's just, like, on the phone, but

[Teddy Mellencamp]

she's on the phone a lot. Even though I still think she had a little flirtation with Ben.

[Dolores Catania]

We're getting to bed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We gotta get to bed.

[Dolores Catania]

Teddy, is it me or am I delirious because I'm dehydrated at this moment? But can you just tell me what's going on with Ben?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Ben is worked up. Ben is taking no jokes. And I think when. When somebody isn't willing to take any joke. Granted, I don't think these were the funniest jokes about him wanting to sleep

[Dolores Catania]

with Amanda while she's sitting next to her husband. Yeah, that wouldn't. Paul Connell. Okay, if this guy Ben came up to me in the pool with the towel, I'd be. Me and Ben would be both at the bottom of the pool. Now, until I saw those things, we're getting ahead of ourselves, and we will get there. But until I saw those things, I was kind of like. I don't think that was nice of her to say at the table, because it really wasn't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It wasn't. It wasn't nice.

[Dolores Catania]

But let's get back to the most awkward conversation that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You mean about Carl?

[Dolores Catania]

Carl. Oh, my God. He's like, I don't have the money to put into that right now. Maybe I wouldn't anyway. But they all, like, kind of like,

[Teddy Mellencamp]

said they went in on him.

[Dolores Catania]

They went in on him, and that wasn't even there. That's a very personal thing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And the fact that they all are throwing around how much money each person is making and what's happening. So, you know, it's Carl. Softbar comes up, and Kyle explains he wasn't financially able to invest in the soft bar since he just sunk 5.

[Dolores Catania]

500,000. We heard 500,000 a lot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But the whole rest of the table was quiet. And then it was like, producers must have poked west or something. And then he was like, yeah, I mean, but didn't you. Didn't he donate 15,000 to you?

[Dolores Catania]

So give him back to 15 then.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That what, he's making 15,000.

[Dolores Catania]

Let lover boy go away. Don't put $500,000 of your own money back into a business that maybe isn't doing well.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I don't know how it's not doing well. It's seen like the best product placement I've ever seen of any kind of.

[Dolores Catania]

It's everywhere. Product, it's everywhere. I know I feel bad maybe. I don't know. I don't want to see anybody. I think the scariest thing is to open a business, have all these dreams and I give people so much credit who open a business because it's so. It's just scary to me. I've never done it. I wanted to do it over the years and I always chicken it out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I have my business and it's hard. It's like it takes up a lot of time and you know, from payroll to all of these things, it's like it's no joke. And like there's some months that it does great and there's some months where you're breaking even and there's some months where you're, you know, you're having to work it. And so I think that, you know, clearly this is what's happening. And I wonder who's advising him. But I do think this is why I always have a hard time with like loaning people money or something like that. Because then it's always expected in return.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, well, I mean, I was told a long time ago if you loan someone money, don't expect to get it back.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I wonder if Kyle also doesn't really believe in this. You have to think he, he's running an alcohol company and Carl's opening a non alcoholic bar.

[Dolores Catania]

Right. Well, I think he should if he can get back. This is what I would do. Give back the money.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Give back the money. Or like, I'm. I'm just guessing for one dj, like, how much do you get when you go on like these boat trips?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, that's what they said. Said, wow. You know, he sees you're making money, but you can't count somebody else's money.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, you can't. But I could kind of like put it aside and say, okay, I'll do one paid post worth. And whatever it was, let's say it was $10,000 or $15,000 or $5,000 or whatever it was and just put it right to his.

[Dolores Catania]

You mean like allocate the money? Yeah, I agree with you. Problem solved.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Add in one extra job and you don't have to worry about it.

[Dolores Catania]

Exactly. So that way you could say we're even. Bro.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because everybody was kind of on him

[Dolores Catania]

and did anybody else invest in car?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, Jesse invested, and I think Ben invested.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I think he said Jesse invested 15,000. And this is Jesse's only. You know, what is it? Second or third year on tv? It is.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, that's true. Wait, I have Carl's book. Did you see Carl's book is out?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. They were saying they kind of miss Carl this week.

[Dolores Catania]

I always miss him. He's so kind.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He is really kind. We haven't seen him be an asshole.

[Dolores Catania]

I've seen him get ripped by Lindsay. I've seen him get totally eviscerated. And, oh, it's because he's from Pittsburgh. I heard.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know if that makes it because. Yeah, but then in the worst, most awkward timing, then of course they have him bring out. They have Kyle bring out his present for Amanda and.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my God, that's so right. The Cartier watch. The timing just really broke right now and. But this poor girl doesn't usually get gifts, so even, like, I don't even care that she got it. When he's saying he's broke, I'm like, All I kept thinking is, I hope Paul doesn't watch this and think it's okay to not buy me anything because other guys do that. Don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no, no, no. All gifts.

[Dolores Catania]

Not a gift giver.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I don't want flowers and I don't want baby's breath ever. Never. But I thought the timing. I was like, they had to do this to him because he's saying he didn't have money. And then for the first time ever, posing him. He was even embarrassed to bring it out in the original Cartier bag. Did you see he put it in another white bag?

[Dolores Catania]

He's trying to hide that he might have some stash on the side. Like, dude, you're just saying you're broke and now you're coming out with like a $14,000 watch. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what it was. I didn't really see it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So, I mean, it's cardi. So it's. It's up there.

[Dolores Catania]

It's up there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Listen, you're not buying Cartier if you're broke, but unless you borrowed the money.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I mean, and clearly if you have that money to. To buy Cartier, you can. You can help your friend out. But also, what about how Amanda said, now I can leave him, but got a watch out of it. But like, then Amanda, why are we even pretending here?

[Dolores Catania]

Listen, I could have told you last season this was coming. Yeah, I kind of told you she didn't want to kiss him when he came back into bed at 2 o' clock in the morning. She sleep with her back to him. I mean, I wonder if they're like

[Teddy Mellencamp]

the southern charm guys that smoke cigs once they get drunk.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, I don't know. I don't even think it matters at that point. You're coming home with blonde hair and it's not yours. All over your friggin shirt.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Lipstick for your dinger.

[Dolores Catania]

You smell like perfume and alcohol. I don't give a. At that point, smoke, who cares? That's the better part of it all. True.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But it's. Then they decide to go around the table. We're getting to your favorite part. They decide to go around the table and say one nice thing about Amanda. And did you notice they skipped over Kyle.

[Dolores Catania]

Of all the things. I really wish I could have heard that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like I really wanted to know that one. But they just brushed right over him and went right to the next person. And I was like, hold on.

[Dolores Catania]

That was after she actually chimed in on the fact that. Did you see? She didn't know. Let's get back to this for one second because this is a very key point. She said he invested in your business and you didn't invest in his.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

He's embarrassed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She didn't even know. That's. That shows how much they're communicating.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I mean, yeah, guys never tell you everything, girls. So, you know, but.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But if you're on a show and you know it's probably going to come up.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, the thing is she was sticking it to him with everybody else.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she didn't care. She was like, I look hot tonight. I'm gonna stick it to you.

[Dolores Catania]

She's so cute with her dog.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's really cute. But they say, you know, everyone say one nice thing. When it gets to Ben, he starts by saying he's a big eyes and smile guy. But Bailey then jumps in saying Ben is going to talk about how he wants to definitely sleep with you. And then it's dead. Silen that jaws are dropped.

[Dolores Catania]

Me, I would have been waiting for Paul to flip the tape. Like, I'm not talking. Like, I've never been with a man who would have sat and listened to that. And I had a big problem with it. I would have got blamed. He would have got blamed. She would have got in trouble for saying it. It would have been a tsunami.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. And Kyle's not even involved in this. He doesn't even say anything.

[Dolores Catania]

He's like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, he was like, well, she gets hers.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. He's like, you can have her at this point. He's like, I know. You guys go take a skinny dip for old time's sake. I gotta go. I gotta. I gotta set.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I. Bailey is so awkward when she says it. Like, it's not even. There's not even a. I know I'm monotone. I'm not, like, delusional on how I speak, how my cadence is. But, like, hers didn't. She. There was zero inflection. So you didn't know it was a joke.

[Dolores Catania]

It wasn't a joke. And I would have killed her. I got to get to know Bailey because this is a very risky thing to say.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Bailey thought she was going to hook up with Ben this weekend. Remember when she said it in the room at the beginning?

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's a real.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, Billy, you just made him look like a scumbag at the table.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. You made him look like a scumbag. And then the rest of the table, nobody, not one person, was like, yeah, you know, it's okay.

[Dolores Catania]

I would have ran away. Like, I'm telling you, Jersey, there would have been a war. Can you imagine, Teddy?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can you imagine seeing the flashbacks of somebody else reaching down, giving you a towel when you're in your bra and underwear? And then when I saw scenes from next week when he's jumping in again butt naked.

[Dolores Catania]

No. No. What about he brings her the coffee in the morning. Kyle's sitting there like a big cuckold.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. Brings the coffee in the morning. I mean, we all see it. He's got eyes for her. That's why it didn't hit. That's why it's not funny.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know what it is. In my world, I'm looking at the Hudson. I'm saying, we'd be floating in the Hudson. I can't fathom this from where I come from. Does anybody agree with me?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But then why did her friend played both sides. I love that. I don't even know the friend's name because she's on it. So little Levi. When Bailey ran up to the room, and first she was changing into her going out outfit, she was ready. She was putting.

[Dolores Catania]

Bailey was ready. She's like, I just. I just nailed it. He's gonna come for me now because I just put the nail in the coffin that they can't bang because I just caused so much trouble in that relationship. And now she's not gonna be allowed to get her coffee or her towel handed to her anymore. So is that. Is that was like. Is that like, was that the mentality. Help me, help me, Teddy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she's socially awkward and I think she's trying to flirt with Ben. But you know, like when you're a little kid and you're trying to flirt with somebody and you just keep striking

[Dolores Catania]

out, just put a target on him. See, if these guys in that house were like, bro bros. Yeah. They would have been like, thinking, how are we gonna beat the out of him later when he's drunk and he's not going to know where it's at? Like, I'm thinking like a guy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Or they would have been like, had a conversation right there and then. Like at that point, Kyle could have said, hey, I don't actually feel that way about Ben. Let's drop this joke,

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then they're in bed, because where else would they be? And Amanda, Levi, and Ciara. I know Bailey likes Ben, but they agree that she needs to find another way to flirt. So they're talking about it. But then when Levi actually goes to talk to Bailey about it, she's just like, I can't believe this.

[Dolores Catania]

You guys are like 30 years old. 20 something. 20. Late 30s. Early 30s. Late 20s. What are you doing in bed? What does in bed mean?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Get up. We're paying to watch you on a show. Get up.

[Dolores Catania]

And I mean, how are you gonna meet a guy outside of that house if you don't go the out? Yeah, but you're in the Hamptons.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it's like, come on. Bailey is getting ready to go out, and then Ben decides he's gonna walk in.

[Dolores Catania]

And of course I have questions. I have questions. And I want to hear your opinion because I value your opinion so much.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, thank you so much. But he walks in and the room is one a disaster, which gives me anxiety. Like he's having step through clothes while

[Dolores Catania]

he's standing on her dirty clothes. And you could tell he's like, repulsed by it because he's like, should I sit on the bed? There's snail trails everywhere and dirty Underwear.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There's, like, skin marks. Like. Yeah, it's not. And in my mind, I'm thinking she really thinks she's gonna make out with him. Like, remember when she was flirting with Wes? Like, she just doesn't have that chip.

[Dolores Catania]

He's the Sally of summer house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Except at least Sally. At least, like, is very sexually sexual.

[Dolores Catania]

Sally. Sexual?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Yeah, Sally's sexual. Like, she has, like, she puts on, like, the. She gives you the move. Even though sometimes it seems a little desperado, I think it's almost hard to tell her no.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, she's a seductress.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she's in it. So Ben comes in. He's like, listen, you know, I need to confront you about this. I don't think the jokes are not funny. He.

[Dolores Catania]

She said it more than once. Yeah, she's alluded to it more than once.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then they showed us flashbacks of it.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, no, what they showed flashbacks of is her points to her point. Then I was like, well, she's not wrong for thinking that. Why is no one else in the house talking about it? You know what? Those other guys.

[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

If they.

[Dolores Catania]

If this was Jersey Shore. Let me. Let me do a Jersey Shore rendition of this. Hey, bro, see him give this howl to your girl. You gonna let that go? Hey, bro, she's trying to tell you something. He wants to bang your girl. He wants to bang your wife. You're gonna do something about it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Coffee. See the coffee she brings?

[Dolores Catania]

You want me to do something about it, or are you gonna do something about it? Somebody's gonna do something about it. See, everybody's sitting there like, oh, he gave her a towel. No big deal. Always bringing her coffee in the morning. No big deal. That would not fly here.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. And I think. But I think she's really. She doesn't really apologize for it. Do you think she does? Like, she's like, you know, I was trying to be in on the joke. And then.

[Dolores Catania]

Am I wrong to say that? She said she got yelled at, but he really didn't yell at her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I didn't think he yelled at gentlemen about.

[Dolores Catania]

And then she goes back to. She was in an abusive relationship, and she was kind of triggered by him going to her and speaking like that. However, I think that that talk needed to be had with her from him. I think he. He was very cordial about it. I think that he.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He did it alone.

[Dolores Catania]

He accepted her apology. He did it alone. He didn't do it in front of people. He didn't call her out in front of people. He was A gentleman about it. I am sorry that she got triggered by what she's been through in the past, but I didn't think that he was really being yell, like, okay, again, that's not my idea of yelling. I didn't hear him raise his voice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she cried because she was embarrassed.

[Dolores Catania]

You think?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I would be like, I'm kind of like that. If I say something that I really regret, and then afterwards I'm thinking about it and I go over and over and over in my head, oh, and

[Dolores Catania]

then she was crying, and then she was too embarrassed to go out because she felt stupid because at the awkwardness of the table. But everybody was so nice to her about it. Amanda came in the room and said whatever. When all the girls came and rallied around her. They were very nice, I have to say.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she was really emotional. And I don't think that she's, like, you know, trying to be problematic. I don't think she's trying to. No, I think that's just. She's trying to find a connection with Ben. Like, you know, when you're little and somebody's like, I don't like you. I don't like you either. You know, like that whole thing. That's what she's doing.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, but we're not little.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

And I don't think that that was the way to go about it at all. I think she's jealous. Here's what I think. Okay. I think that she is jealous of how he is with her because he wants wish that he was like that with her.

[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I think Bailey. And you're right. Going back to little kids, when little girls are jealous or they have a crush on someone, they're mean to them. Yeah. And I think in Bailey's own way, she was trying to get that to stop.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And she wanted the attention on her. She had already planned with her friend that she was going to make out with him this weekend. And then now here he is pouring his heart out about Amanda again.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, when you make a plan card. Laughs I'm just gonna throw it out there

[Teddy Mellencamp]

then. So we both agree that I think Ben was straightforward. I don't think he was super aggressive. I do think he just was like, I'm not doing this again.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, let's just stop. And she said, listen, she did say she apologized. He accepted. She said, I won't speak like that anymore. And then he looked down and realized he was standing on a pair of dirty underwear. So then he decided to leave.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then she still wanted to talk to him and he's like trying to get out without stepping on all of her underwear and bras. And he's like, I, I can't do this. But then, you know, everybody goes out.

[Dolores Catania]

But Bailey, Levi stayed in with her. That's a good friend.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's a good friend.

[Dolores Catania]

And then you know what I liked about Bailey? She was considerate of Levi. She said, now you gotta stay in here. Thanks for staying with me, but now you have to stay in here next to my miserable ass. Like she wasn't being a selfish friend about saying, well good you're here, you're my friend. That's what you're supposed to do. Which I've seen. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Which we've seen. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Like I like that about Bailey. I like that because she kind of redeemed herself here with me. I like that she said to her, I feel bad that you're sitting next

[Teddy Mellencamp]

to this miserable and you could be out and you know, I would have been fine with you being out. Like, I'm just upset for a multitude of reasons. But the party crew gets back to the house around 3am and that's when west sits on Sierra.

[Dolores Catania]

Everybody likes to sit on Sierra, but nobody wants to be the full time boyfriend. If you're not going to be a full time boyfriend to Ciara. Stop sitting on.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't want to be sat on. Her leg.

[Dolores Catania]

No, me neither. I can't breathe. I have claustrophobia. But no one's sitting on me. Nobody wants to sit on me. I'm not asking, I wouldn't even, I don't have to ask anyone not to sit on me these days. But I, I have to say, like if you, you know, you guys, you all know Sierra's looking for a serious relationship. Keep your hands to yourself. Do not play into somebody's emotions like that. I don't like it. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And in the, you know, in the kitchen, Ciara admits to Wes that she isn't sure if she trusts him. And she pretty much says like I've designed it this way so that when we're out and having fun, we can have fun. But it's not gonna pass that.

[Dolores Catania]

What? Yeah, right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But then I'm help me with this. I'm confused why it took Jesse Solomon writing Ciara a love song and to try to kiss her for Wes to come around.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I was going there too. I was gonna say because that is the male human nature. They don't want you, but they don't want anyone else to have you. Yeah, it's hard to let go of that person who maybe you don't like as much or even if he does, but that. That you're gonna lose that some. That one person that's like, so into you or loves you or is hurt by you but still around you don't like. You should let it go. But it's hard to lose. Do you know what I'm trying to say? It's hard, but it's not fair to that person.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's like if you love them, set them free.

[Dolores Catania]

Leading. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because I think they're both still in love with each other.

[Dolores Catania]

So then why are they not?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because west isn't willing to fully. He knows he's not ready to fully commit.

[Dolores Catania]

Then they should be exactly what they are. But Wes should be cognizant of the fact that do not play into her emotions.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I think he is. And then he's playing into arm.

[Dolores Catania]

And then he grabbed her leg. And who was saying, oh, you kept touching her leg. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then next week we see that he's, like, holding her. Her arm the whole time and, like, touching her. And. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Come on.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's. He's going for it.

[Dolores Catania]

I think they have unfinished business.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think we're going to see them back together. It just took a little Jesse Solomon to. To get us there.

[Dolores Catania]

Jesse, we took you somewhere.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Jesse. Then the house is heading to the vineyard. But as Sierra tries to take the front seat from West. But he insists on standing up for himself today and won't be handing it over. Wow.

[Dolores Catania]

Wow. I'm so impressed. You really stood up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, between Bailey and West, this is like summer house schoolyard where you pick people he calls shop secretly, like,

[Dolores Catania]

sits in the front. I'm really going to stick up for myself now. Those guys get eviscerated by those women in that house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They can't.

[Dolores Catania]

I actually feel like I watch it just for that because I come from such a different era. I love to see the women having the upper hand.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. But even, like, while they're at the vineyard and Sierra says to Kyle, will you come take my picture? I'm trying to think if I would do that to, like, your husband, could you, like, could you imagine?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, everybody. I make Paulie take everyone's picture because he's a very good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But you're. You're probably in it. But you would have him go take my picture by myself. And yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm like, paul, go take Teddy's picture. I know you know how to do your filters, and I share. But this is a different Story. Like. Yeah, I mean, they're just different. It's a different.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it's. You know what?

[Dolores Catania]

And let me tell you, she's not going for Kyle.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, she's definitely not. But then Sierra and Ben play cornhell. Why? Sierra gives Ben advice on not being so guarded on his situation with his ex girlfriend. So his situation with his ex girlfriend, shockingly, sounds very similar to her situation with west, which is why I think we're seeing this little nugget. Because why else would they need to tell us that information?

[Dolores Catania]

She's very well spoken, Sierra. Like, she's very good at talking about her emotions. I wonder if she's in therapy. She's making it look enticing. I know that I can. She knows how to articulate her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she does. And she's good at it. But that's where we find out that Ben was in, you know, a pretty serious relationship for six months for. I love it. For six months. And then he wanted.

[Dolores Catania]

Essentially, she said, I love you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She said I love you first. And then he was gonna come to summer house, and he was like. Wanted her just to wait.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know. Is he worth the wait? What's his story?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. I don't. He was on the Bachelor of, like, Australia.

[Dolores Catania]

That means nothing to me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You mean you're not tuning into the Bachelor in Australia? No, but it did make me laugh when all the guys couldn't even keep their tears in when he was like, I mean, she's trying to say, I'm sleeping with my mate. My mate's moment, you know, whatever it is. He said all the guys couldn't take it.

[Dolores Catania]

Wow. We see a pulse on the men. Amazing. Somebody's getting mad about something.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love that they're softies compared to Southern charm, they are. And then back at the house, the group plays games outside. Amanda and Sierra talk to KJ about his relationship with Dara.

[Dolores Catania]

And this is where we find out where he's, like, a little hopeless romantic.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. Like, they've been.

[Dolores Catania]

He's like. He's got ass all over the place there, and he's not interested in and out. And he's like, not interested. He's like, I really like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But Derek is filming the show and getting paid to film the show, and she can't even show up.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, like you said, maybe she has a real job,

[Teddy Mellencamp]

but the amount of times they talk on the phone, I mean, I think they're, like, in a relationship.

[Dolores Catania]

They're an item. That's very nice. And I love to see that. She's got a nice guy there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, he's a nice guy. He's into her then. But it's not that nice of a guy to say that. You had sex than I had before.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't like that. Yeah, I don't like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I didn't love that statement either.

[Dolores Catania]

Was he putting his mark on it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think he's trying to say

[Dolores Catania]

Ben peeing on his.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hey, Ben, just so you know, I know you can bring in her coffee. Don't be bringing her coffee. Don't be jumping in the pool with her naked.

[Dolores Catania]

Not happening.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then west admits to Ben that he misses Sierra and describes their time together as dreamy.

[Dolores Catania]

And then. And then he puts it. And then he rolls over and puts his little hood over his head, and he goes, do you miss her? And he goes, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then.

[Dolores Catania]

And then he goes, what are you gonna do? And he goes, I don't know. And he rolls over and he's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We both know he's probably not gonna do anything. He's gonna keep getting drunk and flirting with her, and then it's gonna backfire. I can. Let me.

[Dolores Catania]

You shuffle your feet, you lose your seat, bro.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But then, of course, the episode ends,

[Dolores Catania]

and it's like the hottest thing in the world.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm like, God, west, you know, he. He does have a lot of confidence. That's good. I mean, he's got to.

[Dolores Catania]

They're just cute to me. They're just all cute.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. I thought it was a good show. And it's. I think we're going to get into some of the reasons why we've been talking about what we've been talking about next week when I. By seeing the trailer. So thanks for tuning in, and we'll talk to you soon.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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