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Tamara Judge
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Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Jud.
Teddi Mellencamp
Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's In a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. Good morning.
Tamara Judge
Good morning.
Teddi Mellencamp
Hey, Tamara Judge, what are you doing?
Tamara Judge
I'm just kicking back. Just went on a four mile walk to go see my friend Shelly. I'm here with my friend Jackie and we had breakfast and came back and it's raining and smoky.
Teddi Mellencamp
Because you're in New York.
Tamara Judge
Oh, yeah. I'm like, every time I'm here, guess what? It rains.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, but Sophia comes tomorrow.
Tamara Judge
No, today she lands in three hours, so.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, that's perfect.
Tamara Judge
And then I don't know what the problem is, but every time I get to New York, the first night, I never sleep. I even took a gummy, which is the weirdest thing. Like, I take a gummy at home, it will knock me out. It's. I don't know what it is.
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't know what it is. Time change. Time change. Got you.
Tamara Judge
I know. I went. I fell asleep like at three in the morning.
Teddi Mellencamp
No.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. And my friend Shelly, she lives right by Central Park. She's like, let's just go walk, you know, park. And I'm like, okay. And I'm like, no. I had like three hours sleep. I'm like, okay, let's just change the time.
Teddi Mellencamp
But yeah, let's go for it.
Tamara Judge
I think it's because I worry about Sophia, like traveling. And like, she's like, oh, God, Mom. I'm like, because she's never really traveled by herself. She's got a boyfriend with her. But you know, when you fly with somebody else. Even Jackie here. She's like, well, what do I do next? Well, where do I go? She's like, everybody, my husband does everything for me. Oh, my God. So, like, I'm like, walk into the airport. I'm okay. Sophia, you're not checking back. So you go in the door, then you go up the escalator, then you go through security. I videotaped it for. She's like, oh, my God.
Teddi Mellencamp
She's like, you've lost it. I pretty sure I can figure it out, Mom.
Tamara Judge
I'm like. And if they. You're in. You're in section A. So if they ask you if you want to check your. Your luggage, your. Your carry on, because it's crowded, say no. Tell them no. You can tell them no.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, yeah. But you're ready for her to move to New York. I know, right?
Tamara Judge
I know, I know. Great.
Teddi Mellencamp
So we are recapping today, this season finale.
Tamara Judge
Your sister come today?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, she comes today.
Tamara Judge
Oh, yay. What time?
Teddi Mellencamp
She lands at 1:30.
Tamara Judge
Oh, exciting.
Teddi Mellencamp
She's only here for a couple days. I haven't been feeling that good today. So I'm like, hopefully seeing her will give me a little jolt back into excitement.
Tamara Judge
It will.
Teddi Mellencamp
It will.
Tamara Judge
So Miami.
Teddi Mellencamp
Miami. It starts with Marisol and Alexia have Christmas parties at the same time due to lack of communication. I find this hard to believe.
Tamara Judge
Well, production knows. It's weird. It's also weird that the season finale, they have four different parties in one day. Yeah. I mean, so I wouldn't say one day, one episode. Four parties in one episode.
Teddi Mellencamp
That's why I felt like it was weird. I felt like it was because they wanted to keep them away from each other. Not everybody there at one time.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
I mean, I don't know. I feel like they could have just whatever. It is what it is, but. And not seeing. I mean, the jump scare, seeing Jill Zarin.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, my gosh. I fully was like. I was like, between this and the Blair Witch project on Salt Lake City, they're all about jump scares on Bravo right now.
Tamara Judge
Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, that was a lot.
Tamara Judge
I thought this was a classy party. And then I saw Jill Zarin. I'm just kidding.
Teddi Mellencamp
Wearing her pajamas over her clothes. But Marisol's party, it's Stephanie, Gertie, Larsa, and Adriana who go. I was a little bit taken aback by how Gertie was to one of the vendors.
Tamara Judge
I was just going to ask you, what were your thoughts on that? I just. When somebody treats anybody like that, like if it's, you know, a restaurant worker or who, anybody in life, like, and this is a woman that is giving her free jewelry. And the way that she talks to this woman was gross.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. I think she thought she was being funny and over the top. But I was like, this is too.
Tamara Judge
It was rude. It was so rude. I don't want that. No, no, I wouldn't even.
Teddi Mellencamp
Larsa called her on it.
Tamara Judge
If I was that late. I'd be like, I'm not giving you anything. Yeah, well, then go ahead and find.
Teddi Mellencamp
All the other stuff that you want and then come back here at the end.
Tamara Judge
I couldn't imagine being gifted something and being like, I don't want that charm on there and I don't want that and I want that. I'm like. I'd be like, oh, my God. I couldn't imagine doing that to somebody.
Teddi Mellencamp
The phrasing was not good.
Tamara Judge
No, it was extremely hard.
Teddi Mellencamp
The phrasing and the tone was not good.
Tamara Judge
I didn't like it at all. Didn't like it all.
Teddi Mellencamp
Nope. Then Adriana voices her frustration with Kiki because of the birthday cake joke.
Tamara Judge
First of all, I think Adriana is making a mountain out of molehill with Kiki. Adriana looks great for her age. Who gives a shit? Like her. Starting with that. It's like, move on. Do you guys have nothing else to talk about? Didn't we already talk about this, like, on the trip three weeks ago?
Teddi Mellencamp
Kiki's trying to have it moved right along anyway, and Adriana's just sticking to it. Adriana is starting to seem a little bit miserable.
Tamara Judge
There's something just came out on social media. I think I saw it this morning and I was browsing. But was it Marisol that said that she just is miserable? She seems miserable on the show and everybody. You know how we were asking Alexia yesterday, like.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
And she there. That's basically what Maris. Marisol was saying. It's like she's just kind of. She doesn't want to be there. She said she doesn't like filming. And then the. Whoever she was talking to, the host goes, then why is she on? Like, you have a choice not to sign that contract.
Teddi Mellencamp
And then when she does want to come on, then when she does want to start participating, then it's like so over dramatic. Yeah.
Tamara Judge
It's more than overdramatic. It's mean.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. And it's the same thing over and over and over again.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. I didn't like it.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Then. Over at Alexia's parties, it's Julia, Kiki, and Lisa. That goes. This part surprised me a little bit. Peter is upset because Alexia didn't tell him about Todd and he had to find out for himself on Page Six.
Tamara Judge
She doesn't want to bother him with it. I gotta believe, like, her family's like, no, absolutely not.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
What did he find out on page 6? That they were together.
Teddi Mellencamp
Still, at this point, I don't know, because the timing is all askew. Yeah, I wanted to ask her yesterday, but we were limited to how many Todd questions we asked. I wanted to ask her, like, okay, at this point in time, how many months were left before he was going to make the decision if he was going to leave again or.
Tamara Judge
You mean continue with the divorce? Yes, because they weren't living together, but they weren't. They weren't hooking up. And I think that that's what maybe her son saw and just was like, oh, my gosh.
Teddi Mellencamp
She was very protective over him yesterday, though, too. Did you notice that?
Tamara Judge
Yeah, I. I'm.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. It kind of makes me wonder if they're still together.
Tamara Judge
They still.
Teddi Mellencamp
She said. She even said Marisol owes him an apology.
Tamara Judge
I know.
Teddi Mellencamp
So I don't know. But they. You know, it's nice seeing both of these events. They're both nice events that gets you kind of into the holiday season. It's exciting. But which party would you have rather attended?
Tamara Judge
I don't know. Oh, probably the gifting one, because you get a lot of nice gifts.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, the gifting one seemed fun. Everybody seemed pretty happy.
Tamara Judge
Wait, isn't there another party, too, where Julia opera sings or something?
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, yeah, don't you worry. There's 17 parties this episode.
Tamara Judge
17 parties in one episode. I wonder why they chose to do that.
Teddi Mellencamp
Just to keep the women away from each other and create more fights. Because other people aren't showing up to things. Maybe.
Tamara Judge
I don't know.
Teddi Mellencamp
Because then after we finish the first two parties, then we have Julia's opera and foster care event. Kiki, Marisol and Alexia show up. Kiki. Kiki says she has a crush on Martina. She's, like, kind of flirtatious with her. Adriana says she couldn't make it, which disappointed Julia. Adrianna says she already had rehearsal planned for Stephanie's event at the same time. And then, as a surprise, Julia sings opera again, this time with backup.
Tamara Judge
Backup. I mean, I didn't know who I was listening to, but she sounded good, I thought.
Teddi Mellencamp
I do find it kind of curious that Julia isn't upset at all the other women who didn't want to hear her sing and didn't come. But she's upset at Adriana, who she hasn't really spoken to this entire season.
Tamara Judge
Because I have to find. I feel like Julia has to find some reason to be mad about something at all times.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, it's impossible to not be upset about something.
Tamara Judge
And also, it's like the season finale. So everybody's looking for some kind of crumb to jump on. Like, we gotta go out with a bang.
Teddi Mellencamp
So give me a nibble.
Tamara Judge
Give me something.
Teddi Mellencamp
Give me a little nibble, nibble, nibble.
Tamara Judge
But Kiki. Kiki waving and blowing kisses at Martina was cracking me up.
Teddi Mellencamp
And the Martina's like, she's always flirting with me. Kiki makes me laugh.
Tamara Judge
She does, honestly.
Teddi Mellencamp
Then we, you know, we get through this party of Julia's, and then we go right into another party.
Tamara Judge
So here we are at party number four, Stephanie's party. I would have loved just to see one big party. Yeah, one big party. I don't know. I felt like there was too much going on. It was just a lot of shifting around. They could have cut out some of those parties.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, we.
Tamara Judge
Why? Why? Maybe it's the end of the season. Like, let's see a little bit of home life, you know, let's see, like, these girls are getting ready for parties and home life and all that kind of stuff. But, nope, we did the mostest.
Teddi Mellencamp
We did the mostest. We had so many parties. Also, I didn't even realize, even though they told us, I still didn't realize that Adriana was performing at Stephanie's.
Tamara Judge
Oh, yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
I didn't realize that till later.
Tamara Judge
She had quite a bit of an attitude, too, before she got out there to perform. We'll get to that. I'm like, what is wrong with these girls? Nasty. Nasty.
Teddi Mellencamp
Of course, Stephanie's party is, like, so over the top in the best way possible, though, I have to say, like, walking in with the snow. Everybody looks beautiful. Everybody's in the best looks. Like I appreciated that. That gives me that, like, housewife feel that I like.
Tamara Judge
Yes. And I mean, I hate to say it, but I think the first part of the show is kind of boring. It didn't really get Good. Until the end of the party.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Until. Until the final party. Yeah.
Tamara Judge
To the final party. Not 1, 2, and 3, but number 4.
Teddi Mellencamp
Number 4.
Tamara Judge
It was good.
Teddi Mellencamp
1, 2, and 3. They were trying to give us a little bit more backstory, I think. But then fourth party is when it started happening. At the fourth party, Kiki immediately pulls Adriana aside, talk about the cake. Kiki explained that she was upset over the ratchet wretched thing because they had originally decided they weren't going to bring it up after that night.
Tamara Judge
Oh, my God. What we find out about this on this episode is crazy.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, it's kind of Kiki. Kiki apologizing for the cake and then telling Adriana she is beautiful for her age is like, peak Kiki.
Tamara Judge
But I also think, like, knowing what we know now, like, this would have been a perfect opportunity for Adriana to come clean about Marisol telling her what to say.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
And I. It wasn't it Marisol that brought it out?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, Marisol brought it up. Marisol.
Tamara Judge
Which honestly didn't make Marisol look great.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, I didn't think so either. I thought it made her.
Tamara Judge
I'm like, why are you bringing this up like this does. This is not a good look for you. This makes you look like you manipulated and you're a manipulator to say to somebody, I'm gonna give you this, but.
Teddi Mellencamp
You have to leave me alone. For two years?
Tamara Judge
Yeah. For two years.
Teddi Mellencamp
Please. Could you imagine if that's actually how it worked out?
Tamara Judge
I mean, if you say that to someone, you're giving them full permission to ream you and bring it up. And why only two years? I don't know.
Teddi Mellencamp
Why two years? Why put that amount on there? I don't know. Why not just a year? Why not one season?
Tamara Judge
How about not saying it at all? Because you never know what's going to happen on these shows, and you can't. That's kind of like self producing. Like, oh, I can't go after so and so because she has something on me.
Teddi Mellencamp
But also, I didn't think it was good that she even did it.
Tamara Judge
I don't. I didn't either. And I don't know why she helped her out. She doesn't like her.
Teddi Mellencamp
But to get two years of immunity.
Tamara Judge
I mean, it's not the FBI, but come on. Like, it's not. I don't know. I. Why would she want to help out a girl that. All Adriana does is make fun of her, call her names. They don't get along. She's had her block for years. Didn't she say? Yeah, it's like, why are you doing that? Why are you helping her out?
Teddi Mellencamp
But also, Kiki stopped bringing it up. It was. It keeps being Adriana who brings it up.
Tamara Judge
And that even makes me even matter because Adriana did say it, and now she's lying and saying she didn't say it because she had Marisol to help her out with that one. And now knowing that you said that to her, then accusing Kiki of calling her a racist. Like, what?
Teddi Mellencamp
And Kiki didn't do that. Kiki never said that.
Tamara Judge
And she knows she called her that.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
So that's just. Oh, there's so many things to get mad about right there.
Teddi Mellencamp
There's so many things as I'm watching this. But one of the things that also made me mad is, you know, Adriana's late to her performance. She's getting annoyed that the girls are taking pictures. She's getting annoyed that the girls are enjoying themselves. They're chanting her name. They're looking forward to hearing her sing. And then she comes out and sings about a dog.
Tamara Judge
I mean, she's singing about her dog. Why isn't she singing a Christmas song? Why isn't she singing? First it's hot, hot, hot. It's hot in Miami. And then it's like, what was the song? What were the lyrics?
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't know. Something like, this is my dog.
Tamara Judge
I love my dog or something.
Teddi Mellencamp
I love my. I love my dog.
Tamara Judge
I love my dog. And everyone's, like, looking at each other like, wait, is this a joke?
Teddi Mellencamp
I thought something was going to happen. Or like, there was going to be a dog that pops out that she was gifting to somebody or something.
Tamara Judge
Well, I will say this. I think Julia's performance was better than Adriana's.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, I do, too.
Tamara Judge
By the landslide. So much better.
Teddi Mellencamp
But I don't think Julia is performing to take anything away from Adriana, do you? No, I think the performances are completely different types of.
Tamara Judge
Oh, totally. But I'm just saying, like, she.
Teddi Mellencamp
I know, but that's something that Adriana was saying, like, you're performing knowing that that's my thing.
Tamara Judge
Well, you lost.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Podcast Host
You don't.
Tamara Judge
You don't win this one.
Teddi Mellencamp
I'm sorry. Wasn't great. Wasn't great at all. And I couldn't hear her.
Tamara Judge
It's probably a blessing.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, after the performances, Julia pulls Adriana to talk. Julia thinks Adriana is punishing her for getting close to the other women in the group. Adriana thinks Julia is trying to compete with her by singing. And Adriana tells Julia she has been performing for way longer than her. So there's multiple things to break down here. One, Adriana said she didn't come to the event because she didn't realize that Julia was going to be performing. So she would have been able to come if she would have known that.
Tamara Judge
No, I think it's just an excuse, but I think Adriana feels like she doesn't belong in the group anymore. Yeah, it's like she's not. She's not her bestie anymore. Julia's not her bestie anymore. She went from being the center mojito full time housewife to a friend that her castmates don't even want her in the group anymore. Like she's just. She's slowly getting pushed out. I think she feels uncomfortable.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, I agree. But Adriana says it was mischievous and fake that Julia didn't tell her that she was going to be singing. She says Julia is toxic and the mask is off. She is like very heated when she says these things. And I'm confused about what she's even saying.
Tamara Judge
I'm. I know. I mean, I'd rather hear somebody scream and yell and say, you have gout dick than this.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, I would too.
Tamara Judge
I would do dick sucking. Gout dick.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, then Julia yells if Adriana has even checked in on her children.
Tamara Judge
Oh, don't bring the kids into this.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
I mean, it just don't. Yeah, she should sing the song I love my gout dick. That would have been better for Christmas than I love my dog.
Teddi Mellencamp
It for sure would have. Then Adriana says Julia used her to get in the group. In her confessional, Adriana says Julia doesn't know who she is or what she likes. That Julia goes from one shitty object to the next, questioning the fact that Julia got engaged nine times until she found the champion player. And then she even said something like, you lived in a shithole and I brought you out.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. And this is something that is grosses me out. And I've had this happen to me. And it's when you were friends with somebody and you're close to somebody for a long time and they know a lot about you. And as soon as you have like a mishap or something goes down between the two of you, they now are going to bring out stuff that they know about you. Like that to me is gross. Or try to use it in your face or make up shit about you. Like, it's just. It's gross. Like if you ever hate me one day, like, don't do that to me.
Teddi Mellencamp
I'm not going to do that to you. I know there's not a point, but that's how.
Tamara Judge
That's how I feel about all of my friends. Like, we, you know, all of us, we talk about things that maybe we don't want other people to know, but just because we get in a fight, you're going to go and throw that. Like, you're gross. You're a gross person to do that.
Teddi Mellencamp
But also, look, we've had somebody on one of these shows that was engaged 19 times. Julia's numbers, basically tame.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. What if hers is nine, nine, nine, nine times? Well, Julia did, I think, in my opinion, played it smart. And she didn't, like, overreact. No, she kind of kept it cool. And Adriana was making an ass out of herself. The more she yelled and screamed and the more somebody plays it cool, you know, the worse off the other person looks.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Because then Adriana's not playing it cool. She's saying, you know, you're a user. I helped you get out of the place that you lived in. Like, just going, going, going. And then Julia says behind closed doors, Adriana was controlling her and yelling at her for years. So Julia says, like, in her confessional, that Adriana was controlling her and yelling at her for years. Like, so I think that means that she was trying to manipulate.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
What she was, like, on camera.
Tamara Judge
Because Julia finally kind of found a voice in the last year or so, and she's kind of a little bit more annoying as she can be. She's a little bit more opinionated and speaks her mind. And I feel like before she wasn't like that.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, I think it's.
Tamara Judge
Adriana doesn't like that at all.
Teddi Mellencamp
All she kind of did was have Adriana's back.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
And now.
Tamara Judge
Now Adriana. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with Adriana. I'm wondering if she's going to be back.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I'm wondering what the hell's in that box.
Tamara Judge
I am dying. What can you speculate that's in that box?
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't know what's in the box, but I do want to know if what's in the box is this bombshell that they're talking about.
Tamara Judge
It has to be, Right?
Teddi Mellencamp
So Alexia says that what's in the box makes the bombshell look truthful. But then if that's the case, then why is Adriana walking off stage?
Tamara Judge
So this is a bombshell. We have we no idea? It's nothing that's been. That we saw in this week's episode, right?
Teddi Mellencamp
Not that we know of.
Tamara Judge
It's just. It's like new information. Like, they dug up information and like, I don't. I don't even know what it could be.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, apparently Julia drops a bomb on Adriana.
Tamara Judge
Oh, it's going to be dirty then, I think. Yeah, but isn't it Adrianna that walks over and hands Julia the box?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, but I think whatever it is that Adriana, whatever Julia says before or after that is what's going to create.
Tamara Judge
So you think she was prepared for this?
Teddi Mellencamp
I think she was. She came in prepared with receipts and was. Didn't care what gimmick Adriana was going to bring in.
Tamara Judge
Is it a small animal in the box? What is it? I need to know.
Teddi Mellencamp
Is. Is it some little.
Tamara Judge
Is it a used condom? What is it? I mean, like, can we speculate what could be in that box?
Teddi Mellencamp
It's not. Well, one of my surgeons always comes in and he has one of those little boxes, and it's for, like, his surgical knives. Do you think it's that?
Tamara Judge
Surgical knives? No. I don't know.
Teddi Mellencamp
What's in the box?
Tamara Judge
A goat head.
Teddi Mellencamp
Could it be a goat head?
Tamara Judge
I don't. It's. It's poop. I don't know. It's in a goat poop. It's gout dick. That's.
Teddi Mellencamp
It's definitely gout dick. It's a little piece of dick.
Tamara Judge
It's a little piece of gout dick.
Teddi Mellencamp
Must have a little touch of gout. I don't know.
Tamara Judge
But I want to know. But we find. We find out soon, right? Next week, like, who looks worse, Adriana or Julia?
Teddi Mellencamp
Adriana.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Teddi Mellencamp
Adriana for sure.
Tamara Judge
Because I know a lot of people on social media saw the clip, like, the preview of the clip, and everybody was on, like, Adriana's side.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. But then once it actually happened because Julia has shown some inconsistencies throughout this season. So I think people wanted to side with Adriana, but Julia didn't really react, which I think helped.
Tamara Judge
What helped her completely.
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Then Stephanie announces a drink dedicated to Kiki with all proceeds going to the Haitian Health Foundation. Kiki makes an announcement to the group of girls that Marisol told her that she had told Adriana that she said wretched instead of ratchet. Marisol admits she had given Adriana the idea of a truce to leave it alone for two years. Adriana says this is example of Marisol's manipulation. Adriana calls Marisol old and miserable. This is where she loses me. She could have just said, look, this shows Marisol's manipulation and then she would have had us. But then she has to call her old and miserable again when she's witching and complaining about being called.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. Being considered old. Marisol was trying to help her out. She was seriously trying to help her out. I don't know why Marisol came clean with that because.
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I think he just started to bring it up.
Tamara Judge
Okay. Because it doesn't look good for either one of them. It does. It doesn't make her look a little bit conniving. Conniving.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Yeah.
Tamara Judge
And it's not realistic for you to tell somebody you can't. You can't do this. You can't talk about me. You can't be mean to me for the next two years on this show. Why she chose two years, I don't know. But. And then for it to be outed that she did say it like, it's just, oh, neither one of you look good in this situation at all.
Teddi Mellencamp
No, both of you look bad. And trying to cover for her, especially When Kiki's not even making a big deal about it. It's just. It's a lot. But then they h. They do all their gifts. There's hugging, there's. You know, they. All of a sudden, they all play happy once gifts come into play. I like Stephanie this episode. Maybe because she wasn't involved that much.
Tamara Judge
You'd like her if you got some of those gifts, too.
Teddi Mellencamp
I know, but. But I would have been grateful for the gifts. Not saying how much I needed another one to hurry it up and to take off the charms.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, yeah. And then they have their closing statements at the very end of the show. Should we. Should we say what they are?
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, you go ahead and do Adriana.
Tamara Judge
Okay. Adriana. Adriana is working on taking her show on the road, but with one less fan in the crowd. She is still not speaking to Julia.
Teddi Mellencamp
Kiki and her dad's relationship is still a work in progress. Meanwhile, she's getting ready to purchase her first condo in one of Stephanie's new buildings. Kiki living in Stephanie's building is the perfect reason to give her a mojito next season.
Tamara Judge
I would love for Kiki to be full time. I would love to see more of her life and her kids and all that kind of stuff. Julia co starred in Florida Grand Opera's Carmen. I don't even know what I just read. What does that mean?
Teddi Mellencamp
I don't even know what that is.
Tamara Judge
I don't even know what that is.
Teddi Mellencamp
Carmen's the name of the show. Carmen.
Tamara Judge
Okay, whatever.
Teddi Mellencamp
So she co starred in an opera.
Tamara Judge
Okay, good for her. Congratulations, Vika. One of her daughters has finally met the boys, but the other one, Emma, has not.
Teddi Mellencamp
Larsa. To add to her new house, Larsa is dating a new man. We see a clip of a news article talking about her relationship with Jeff Kobe, and then Jeff predicts that they'll be married by the end of the year, just in case Larsa plans on freezing more eggs.
Tamara Judge
She wants to have more kids, apparently. So Gertie continues to take solo therapy. She has no plans for additional reconstructive surgery.
Teddi Mellencamp
For now, Lisa is inspired by her tumultuous divorce, and she's developed an app called Split well with Jody. But his marriage proposal is still in development.
Tamara Judge
His marriage proposal is still in Split well, soon after Stephanie's dream came true. One twin sister started talking to her, but the other one has not. So one out of two ain't bad, girl.
Teddi Mellencamp
Yep, you're getting it then. Marisol, Marisol, and Steve are looking for their next Wedding location. Water will not be served. But cocky sure will be.
Tamara Judge
Of course, it will be. Well, with Alexia, Todd has officially. They have officially divorced. They tried dating, but broke it off. But, you know, for now, maybe not so much. They'll probably be dating soon. They'll probably be married again.
Teddi Mellencamp
By the way she was talking, I. I. In my gut, I feel like they're. They're still talking.
Tamara Judge
In my gut, too. I thought the same thing. I'm like, there. Something's going on. Because her tone has changed a little bit. It softened up. She even said that. Like you said, Marisol owes him an apology, so.
Teddi Mellencamp
I know. But all in all, I'm. What this season did has made us very excited for the reunion.
Tamara Judge
The reunion looks like it's going to be better than the whole season. Yeah, and sometimes that happens, and I.
Teddi Mellencamp
Appreciate when it does.
Tamara Judge
I just need to know what's in that box. And you know what? We're not going to find out till the third reunion.
Teddi Mellencamp
I bet you anything you don't think so.
Tamara Judge
Oh, they're going to make us. They're going to just string us along.
Teddi Mellencamp
String us along. It's annoying, I know, but still, I did appreciate watching it. Getting to know Stephanie. I give Stephanie a hard rap, but getting to know her.
Tamara Judge
I think I told you it would come around. I. I like her. No kind of way.
Teddi Mellencamp
Honestly, I think she's good for the show.
Tamara Judge
You like her? Just admit it. Admit it, Teddy.
Teddi Mellencamp
I like watching her.
Podcast Host
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Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I mean, I'm. I'll have ample amount of time to meet her and see in person. And as long as she doesn't brag to my face, I'll probably like her. So. You know, I'm easy. I'm easy to flop right over to liking someone if they're just nice to me.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, you're a pushover. Maybe we can get her on the pod after the reunion.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, that would be nice. Mm. What if she takes us on the plane?
Tamara Judge
Oh, come pick us up and we'll come to your house and do a podcast. She's all. She's all off.
Teddi Mellencamp
We can spend 80.
Tamara Judge
$80,000 in fuel. Jet. Jet fuel. And we're like.
Teddi Mellencamp
We promise we won't get in a fight, and we'll sit in assigned seats. We don't care. We'll do just about anything.
Tamara Judge
Oh, God.
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, my gosh. Well, thanks, you guys, for tuning in to another episode of Two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellen, and Tam Judd.
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Two Ts In A Pod: “Team Julia or Team Adriana” (RHOM Recap) — Episode Summary
Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: Team Julia or Team Adriana (RHOM Recap)
Release Date: September 29, 2025
Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge recap the season finale of The Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM), diving deep into the four-party chaos, the escalating feud between Julia and Adriana, and the notable behaviors, alliances, and drama among the cast. The hosts also reflect on which Housewives deliver, question production choices, analyze emotional moments, and tease the upcoming reunion and mysterious “box” bombshell. Their signature playful, candid style makes for a lively recap for fans seeking both humor and insight.
Tamra on Gertie’s Vendor Behavior:
“When somebody treats anybody like that ... and this is a woman that is giving her free jewelry. And the way that she talks to this woman was gross.” (07:23)
Teddi on Party Structure:
“I felt like it was because they wanted to keep them away from each other. Not everybody there at one time.” (06:31)
Tamra on Adriana/Julia Drama:
“When you were friends with somebody ... as soon as you have like a mishap... they are going to bring out stuff that they know about you. Like that to me is gross.” (27:30)
Teddi on Adriana’s Performance:
“She comes out and sings about a dog. I thought something was going to happen or like, there was going to be a dog that pops out...” (24:06)
Tamra on the Box Mystery:
“Is it a used condom? What is it? I mean, like, can we speculate what could be in that box?” (31:09)
Both on the Reunion:
“The reunion looks like it's going to be better than the whole season.” (41:44)
Teddi’s Closing Reflection:
“What this season did has made us very excited for the reunion.” (41:37)
| Segment | Time | Highlights | |--------------------------------|------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Welcome & Personal Banter | 03:34–06:05| Hosts catch up, set up RHOM finale | | Christmas Party Chaos | 06:08–08:43| Parallel parties spark debate over production strategies | | Gertie/Jewelry Vendor Incident | 07:23–08:14| Both hosts criticize Gertie's rudeness | | Kiki/Adriana “Cake” Conflict | 21:10–23:46| Kiki apologizes, Marisol’s “immunity deal” exposed; manipulation claims | | Julia’s Opera vs Adriana’s Song| 18:11–24:48| Hosts prefer Julia's opera to Adriana’s “dog” song | | Julia vs Adriana — Fallout | 25:22–29:46| Tension over “using” friendships, manipulation, and confessional shade | | Mysterious “Box” Speculation | 29:44–32:32| Playful speculation on contents and what bombshell awaits at reunion | | Cast Updates / Closing Remarks | 39:01–41:37| Snappy “where are they now” cast summaries; hosts pick favorites | | Reunion Hype | 41:44–42:46| Hosts look ahead to reunion with anticipation |
Teddi and Tamra bring their signature mix of humor, honesty, and Housewives insider knowledge to a season finale packed with petty drama and production quirks. The Adriana vs. Julia conflict dominates the discussion, both hosts ultimately siding more with Julia but lamenting the pettiness and personal attacks all around. They critique the four-party structure but are grateful for the drama it delivered at the end. Both are fired up for the reunion, with the podcast leaving listeners eager to see “what’s in the box,” who comes off worst, and which alliances will last.
Recommended for listeners who want an irreverent, thorough Housewives recap with true “Real Housewife” energy.