The Battle of Good vs. Evil (Traitors Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Podcast Information:

• Title: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Description: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge team up to Tell All. Listen each week as they watch and rehash as only they can. Who knows housewives better than housewives?! Right?! Teddi and Tamra are Two Ts in a Pod. (Telling All).
• Episode: The Battle of Good vs. Evil (Traitors Recap)
• Release Date: March 7, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod, hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, alongside guest Dylan, delve into a detailed recap and analysis of the finale episode titled "The Battle of Good vs. Evil (Traitors Recap)." The trio explores the intricate dynamics, strategic maneuvers, and emotional confrontations that defined the season's climax.

Show Finale Recap

The conversation kicks off with a summary of the finale's pivotal moments. The hosts discuss the intense voting process where Brittany casts the deciding vote for Danielle, leading to Danielle's surprising elimination. Initially perceived as the traitor, Danielle's farewell speech subtly hints at deeper betrayals and unspoken resentments within the group.

Notable Quote:

• Dylan [03:07]: "No, I didn't know anything. I did. I had, like, kind of a guess, but the ending kind of shocked me."

Analysis of Key Characters and Strategies

Teddi, Tamra, and Dylan dissect the motivations and strategies of the main players:

• Brittany and Danielle: The hosts explore Brittany's decision to vote out Danielle, questioning whether it was a strategic move to avoid being on the losing side or a calculated betrayal. Tamra highlights, “Danielle’s farewell speech was very telling. She thanks everyone besides Brittany, and I think that was her way of letting everybody know” [04:49].

• Dolores and Ivar: Dolores’ strategic missteps are scrutinized, especially her tendency to trust dubious alliances. Dylan remarks, “Eight out of ten times... I never felt that way about Dolores. I thought she was so smart” [06:12], emphasizing her inconsistent voting patterns.

• Final Mission Execution: The trio discusses the high-stakes final mission involving the retrieval of gold and classic cars via helicopter. Concerns about the mission's safety and execution are voiced, with Tamra expressing her anxiety: “I would have done it, but I wouldn't have liked it” [16:02].

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra Judge [04:36]: “This is not a game. Game about friendship. This is a, you know, this is a game about murder.”
• Dylan [08:05]: “It was very awkward. I would have just been happy that I had a full bottle of champagne.”

Reunion Reflections

The conversation transitions to the aftermath of the finale and the subsequent reunion episode hosted by Andy Cohen. The hosts reflect on the emotional exchanges and confrontations that took place:

• Contestant Dynamics: Tamra and Dylan express their thoughts on interactions between former contestants like Bob the Drag Queen, Carolyn, and Danielle. Tamra notes, “Danielle has taken on the title of messy trader” [24:00], while Dylan discusses the impact of Danielle’s villain persona.

• Emotional Reactions: Dolores’ threat towards Dylan, “I’m gonna kill you” [18:49], is highlighted as a key moment, demonstrating the intense emotions and fractured relationships post-game.

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra Judge [22:38]: “Scholars love to do that.”
• Dylan [24:07]: “I did not blink twice about that because I've seen people do a lot worse on competition shows.”

Future Predictions and Thoughts

Looking ahead, the hosts speculate on potential future contestants and formats for upcoming seasons:

• Potential Contestants: Tamra suggests bringing in personalities from other reality shows like Mary Cosby or Jeff Lewis, envisioning intriguing dynamics and fresh storylines. “Snooki would be good. Amorosa. She would be fabulous” [37:42].

• Show Format Innovations: They propose ideas such as disguising traitors’ voices or identities to add layers of mystery and strategy. Tamra muses, “They could show them from behind and everything and do all that, but maybe wear a mask and disguise their voice” [35:32].

Notable Quotes:

• Dylan [35:26]: “I would love to see you and Dorinda together in a castle. I think that would be really fun.”
• Tamra Judge [35:32]: “I agree. That would be so good.”

Conclusion

Teddi, Tamra, and Dylan wrap up the episode by sharing personal reflections and emphasizing the importance of resilience and strategic thinking within competitive environments. They acknowledge the emotional toll of such shows while appreciating the entertainment and analysis they provide to their listeners.

Notable Quote:

• Tamra Judge [40:26]: “She's gonna beat this. Yeah.”

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Dylan [03:07]: "No, I didn't know anything. I did. I had, like, kind of a guess, but the ending kind of shocked me."
• Tamra Judge [04:49]: “Danielle’s farewell speech was very telling. She thanks everyone besides Brittany, and I think that was her way of letting everybody know.”
• Dylan [06:12]: “Eight out of ten times... I never felt that way about Dolores. I thought she was so smart.”
• Tamra Judge [16:02]: “I would have done it, but I wouldn't have liked it.”
• Dylan [24:07]: “I did not blink twice about that because I've seen people do a lot worse on competition shows.”
• Tamra Judge [35:32]: “I agree. That would be so good.”

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Final Thoughts: This episode of Two Ts In A Pod offers a comprehensive and engaging analysis of the finale of "The Battle of Good vs. Evil (Traitors Recap)." Teddi, Tamra, and Dylan provide insightful commentary on contestant strategies, emotional confrontations, and the overall dynamics that led to the season's outcome. Their balanced perspectives and inclusion of notable quotes enrich the listener’s understanding, making it a valuable recap for both avid viewers and newcomers alike.

Transcript

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[Dylan]

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[Tamara Judge]

Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Trishell. We are going to recap the Traitors finale. Now, I'm gonna need your expertise on this. Then we also have. We'll touch a little bit on the reunion and it. Did it surprise you? Did it shock you? Did you know who won, like, give it to me.

[Dylan]

No, I didn't know anything. I did. I had, like, kind of a. A guess, but the ending kind of shocked me. I will tell you. It also really shocked me. The first two seconds of the episode, whenever Brittany said Danielle' I was shocked.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't know that I was shocked. But then I thought, oh, you know what? It's got to be her name, because that's why it was. To be continued. They knew it was such a good cliffhanger. So it starts out where they're back at the roundtable where Brittany is the deciding vote, and she voted for Danielle. And I, like, everybody was like, yes, like, okay, she's out. Everybody thought that Danielle was the traitor. Brittany voted for her because she didn't think she could ever. She could save her. Danielle can't believe she did this to her again. So what's the backstory on that? So they were on another game together.

[Dylan]

And Big brother and Britney sort of, like, backstabbed Danielle and voted her out, kind of blindsided her. And so Danielle, with reason, had, you know, she was a little worried about Britney. But I don't think Brittany did the vote to be malicious. I think that she just didn't want to be on the wrong side of the vote. She thought for sure everyone was going to vote Danielle out. But I do also understand why I see both sides. I understand why Danielle was pissed at her because it's second time it's happening.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, this is not a game. Game about friendship. This is a, you know, this is a game about murder.

[Dylan]

Yeah. But you know what? Danielle's right. She should have murdered Britney and she should have taken someone else as a traitor. That's what should have happened. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

In hindsight, Danielle's farewell speech was very telling. She thanks everyone besides Brittany, and I think that was her way of, like, letting Everybody know.

[Dylan]

Yeah, 100%. And Britney is devastated and she's, like, shaking. And the exchange between her and Danielle would have sent complete, like, Spidey senses up for me if I were faithful over there.

[Tamara Judge]

In Danielle's confessional, she realizes, like you said, she should have killed Britney when she had the chance. In Brittany's confessional, she Says she wants. Wanted to win the game with Danielle, but people were too suspicious of her. Danielle not thinking Brittany was the nail in Brittany's coffin for sure. Alan reveals that there will be no more murders tonight, and that is the last time they will learn somebody's true identity. However, the Seer will learn somebody's true identity tonight. The player that will hold that title is Britney. In the meantime, the rest of the faithfuls are recapping the insanity of the round table tonight. Dolores thinks Danielle should win an Oscar for her performance, but she's ashamed of herself for not realizing Danielle's true identity. And Dolores was off a lot for somebody that won. She. Her. She was off a lot. And she. Even at the first two minutes of the reunion, Andy brings it up.

[Dylan]

I couldn't believe it. Eight out of ten times. You know, sometimes we're looking at someone like Sandoval, and we're like, God, he's such an idiot. I never felt that way about Dolores. I thought she was so smart. I was shocked to learn that she had been off 80% of the time.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. And Dolores says, I'm surrounded by liars. Dolores, I love you, but you've been on Housewives for a very long time, so you should be used to it.

[Dylan]

Bad.

[Tamara Judge]

But Dylan predicts that Brittany will use the seer advantage to pretend like someone else is a traitor to keep the heat off of her. He noticed how betrayed Danielle was by Brittany specifically, and he thinks that means something. Yeah, I think everybody. I mean, Dylan's a smart guy.

[Dylan]

He's so smart. He is just thinking 10 times ahead of everyone else with strategy. And I agree he's trying to see all sides, but no matter what Brittany does, it's gonna look suspicious. She already has heat on her from that roundtable.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, Danielle's performance to us was obviously cringy, and because we knew she was a traitor.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But for, you know, the faithful sitting there at the round table, she had them fooled. I mean, she was the last original traitor standing, right?

[Dylan]

She was. And so as much as we can critique her game and say that she was like a bad trader, she was there the whole time.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Only because us as viewers knew she was a traitor. We're like, oh, God, the performances, the crying, stop. But Britney chose to use her Seer advantage against Gabby tonight. Of course, Gabby's envelope read faithful. And Britney pretended to be relieved. Oh, and she had a little. Little acting going on there, too. This whole little date they had with the champagne and all that was. It was a little Bit painful to watch.

[Dylan]

It was very awkward. I would have just been happy that I had a full bottle of champagne. Because they didn't give you any alcohol at the castle. Hardly.

[Tamara Judge]

I. That's what I thought, too. I'm like, is that real champagne?

[Dylan]

Yeah, I think it was. And I was like, oh, my God, they're gonna be drunk after two glasses.

[Tamara Judge]

Because, like, yeah, I know you don't drink. And the alcohol they do give you.

[Dylan]

This is not good.

[Tamara Judge]

The wine tastes like vinegar. I'm like, nope, exactly.

[Dylan]

Same. So I was pretty much sober for four weeks. But, yeah, they. I thought that was weird. I thought that Brittany could have done a little bit better of a job with Gabby being like, oh, my God. So when she opened up the envelope, like, oh, you're faithful. So let's talk about who's a traitor. Brittany was just kind of like, oh, okay, you're faithful. Good.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, if you were, Britney would have you framed Gabby as a traitor?

[Dylan]

Yeah, because I think it would have. At that point, I would have been like, go big or go home. Like, we're at the. We're at the end as well.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

Yeah. I thought it would have made a good show because how awkward when it's just like, five people. At the breakfast, Brittany would have had to look straight at Gabby and be like, and she said she's a traitor. That would have been such good television.

[Tamara Judge]

That would have been so good.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

The next morning, all the players arrive at breakfast. Dylan tells Dolores and Ivar his plan. If Brittany says Gabby's a traitor, they'll have to take both of them out to be safe. But if Britney says she's a faithful, it's likely that she is. Britney and Gabby show up to the breakfast together. Britney reveals Gabby is a faithful. Dylan, surprised to hear this, and starts second guessing whether Britney is a traitor like he originally thought. Gabby also surprised and thinks Britney is likely a faithful as well. Since she told the truth, Britney knew it would only create suspicion on her. If she were to say Gabby was a traitor. She's hoping this move will gain her some trust in the group. Do you think it would have had a different outcome?

[Dylan]

It would have stirred the pot. And you know what? Confusion in the castle at this point is only a good thing. I think that just getting everyone talking and confused can shake up the roundtable in a good way. Instead of just everyone going with their gut, it just makes you question, but I would have either said that Gabby was a traitor, or I would have pulled someone like Ivar, who was clearly a faithful and just been like convincing Ivar of someone else. Like use the entire dinner to talk about someone else being a traitor.

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[Tamara Judge]

So then there's a mission. And all I could think is, I don't want to watch another mission. I just want to get to the end. I just don't. I don't want to watch this again. Like, get me to the and it was a super sized episode. So it was like, oh. So before the mission, everyone is strategizing. Dylan pulls Brittany aside to have a conversation with her. Dylan says if he's learned one thing from his big brother, it's how a good actor operates. He knows Britney's acting. And the only person you need to act in this game is if you are a traitor. That's the only reason you need to act. Right?

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Brittany knows that Dylan's onto her so she's going to try and rally the girl so they can banish him tonight.

[Dylan]

She's gonna need evidence. That's what I kept saying. It's like I felt like an what.

[Tamara Judge]

Would be your evidence?

[Dylan]

You have to make something up. At that point, if you don't have anything solid, you completely make something up. I feel like on our season people had receipts and they don't really do that. They're like, oh, this person's acting funny. At this point. It you need more things like their votes are were weird. Why this person got murdered because of this reason. I mean. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, for the final mission, the players will have to track down $25,000 worth of gold and a collection of classic cars. The players manage to secure 25,000 for the prize pot. But Alan gives them an opportunity to double their money. They each need to take two bags of gold and fly above the castle. And a helicopter. That would have scared the shit out of me.

[Dylan]

But you would have done it.

[Tamara Judge]

I would have done it, but I wouldn't have liked it.

[Dylan]

I was getting texts from so many people saying I wouldn't do this final mission.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, accidents happen, like, especially with helicopters.

[Dylan]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

And I'm like, if that thing goes down, is going down right on top of me or this cable breaks, like.

[Dylan]

Oh, you'd never survive.

[Tamara Judge]

You'd never survive.

[Dylan]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

So I'm actually shocked that they did that. Something so dangerous, like the liability on that.

[Dylan]

You know what this was? This feels like. Because our mission, our season, the final one was all day long, Tamra. It was like over 12 hours from start to finish. I feel like maybe they had something planned and the weather didn't cooperate or something, and they kind of changed because it was a very short mission and it was all around the house.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, the mission, your final mission, was it shot in one day? Like, with the. Was the final. That final, like, shot in a couple days? And the mission was just one solid day.

[Dylan]

It was one solid day for us, but, like, we took a helicopter, like, 45 minutes away to, like, the ocean. We filmed this whole thing. It lasted so long. And then we got on a boat. We didn't get home till, like, late at night.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it is exhausting doing that show.

[Dylan]

It was.

[Tamara Judge]

It was really exhausting. I was talking to Gina and our cast. I'm like, you should do traders. And I explain everything to her. She goes, why? Why would I go? After everything you just told me? I go. My experience is a little bit different because sick. But I'm sure that you. You can handle it. So they're dangling from this helicopter. Dolores and Brittany go first. They're able to land two bags into the fire. Ivar goes next.

[Dylan]

But also, I want to say that Dolores is a true badass, because I know that in her everyday life, she's not doing crazy stuff like this. And for her to smile and just do it. I mean, Britney's kind of. But she's a reality person.

[Tamara Judge]

Dolores is a bad ass. She's badass. She'll. She'll do anything. But I'm like, nope. Ivar goes next all by himself. He gets one bag in. Gabby and Dylan go last, and they managed to get two bags in. The prize pot now is $204,000. I like, okay, let's just get to where we need to get. I don't want to. I don't want to see the mission anymore. I don't want to see it. So everybody's strategizing again. Before the roundtable. Britney pushed hard for Dylan and Gabby and Danielle are belie leaving some of her points. But Dylan and Ivar are set on voting for Britney. Britney riles Dolores up and reminds her how money driven Dylan has been throughout the game. She tells Dolores he won't stop eliminating people until it's just him and Gabby left. Dolores approaches Dylan and threatens him if he tells her he's not a traitor. Her exact words were, I'm gonna kill you.

[Dylan]

She was livid. But you know what? That was very smart of Brittany. She did great. That's exactly what she needs to do. Get. Get something to piss off Dolores to make her question and not want to take Dylan to the end.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, Dolores was. Her jersey popped out right there.

[Dylan]

Oh, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, Jersey. So the. It's the final roundtable. Dylan talks about how upset Danielle was when Brittany voted her out. But Brittany pointed out that Danielle's response to Dylan's vote seemed just as personal. Dylan thinks Brittany could have been a recruit. But Britney asked who would be better recruited than the most faithful of the faithfuls. Dylan wasn't prepared for the attack and he's worried he didn't defend himself well enough. Brittany wasn't going down without a fight, that's for sure.

[Dylan]

I thought she was. I think she did great. She did not give up. That's a really hard place to be at the final because you want to probably give up at this point. She's like, God, I'm a traitor. But Dylan, it just shocked me how offended he was that anyone was even saying that he could be a traitor. I'm like, everyone will have their moment over here. Like, yeah, everyone should be questioned.

[Tamara Judge]

Yep. So every single person votes for Brittany and she is banished. She obviously can't say if she's a faithful or traitor, so she leaves the castle immediately. Next they will meet at the fire of truth. Brittany went way too hard on Dylan. I felt it was like watching somebody kick a golden retriever.

[Dylan]

I don't know. Dylan said assault. I was like, stop. Like, she didn't. Maybe with words.

[Tamara Judge]

Did he say assault? I missed that.

[Dylan]

Literally quote, use the word assault. He's like, I didn't deserve this assault or something like that. I was like, stop it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

I mean, like, that's the game. Yeah, she did go hard, but she had to. She had to defend herself. I liked it. I like to see a fight assault.

[Tamara Judge]

That's equivalent to somebody on Housewives saying, you're a bully. You're such a bully.

[Dylan]

They love to do that.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Dylan]

Enough.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. So the players arrive at the fire of truth. Dylan, Ivar, Gabby and Dolores all vote to end the game. Of course, the remaining players are all Faithfuls. Alan reveals Brittany's identity as a traitor, which makes the group even happier. The Faithfuls had beat the traitors and they will all split $200,000. Would you have done that?

[Dylan]

No, I would have at least gotten rid of Ivar.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, you have four. What, four people at the end. Or was it five?

[Dylan]

Four, four, four.

[Tamara Judge]

And you got to split $200,000 and pay taxes on that. I'm like, you know what? Let's just. Let's go.

[Dylan]

Yeah. I mean, I like the fact that everyone's heart was pure, but I'm a gamer at heart. I kind of like a little bit of a mess. I wish the ending was a little bit more surprising and messy and less lovey dovey. I don't think that Ivar was needed. He just plucks right out. Maybe the three of them should have just plucked out.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought that you would have gotten rid. You wouldn't have thrown in.

[Dylan]

No, I would not.

[Tamara Judge]

I might have because you got that far. I just wanna get the hell home. And I just don't. I just. I just. Come on. If I'm gonna make some money, I'm gonna make it and get out of here.

[Dylan]

It's just crazy though, because whenever we were at the fire pit, Alan kept on saying over and over, like, are you sure? Are you a hundred percent, without a doubt, positive that everyone here is a faithful? And that's when I started doubting and thinking that CT was a traitor. And that's why I wrote his name down, because I was just so spiraling.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

But also I have a paranoid personality because I've done challenges and people are liars on that show. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So. So that's how it ends. Season three was great. Now there was the reunion aired right after that. And it's on Peacock if you haven't seen it. So Andy Cohen is hosting the Traders reunion again this year. There is actually a frame picture of Andy in the cast. They. I think they showed it this year on the show.

[Dylan]

I used to wave to him and blow kisses every time I walk by.

[Tamara Judge]

So first he brings out the winners. Dylan, Dolores, Gabby and Ivar. All of the other Players were watching backstage, and they didn't do that with ours, did they?

[Dylan]

No, they did. They did. But everyone was so pissed at me and c. T. That people, like, didn't even want to watch.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, Andy was, you know, very open that he didn't understand Dolores. Strategy. Strategy. She voted incorrectly 8 out of 10 times, but she is the first housewife to be a winner on this game, so yay.

[Dylan]

Yeah. Congratulations.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then Andy brings out the traders from the seas from the season. Bob, Rob, Danielle, and Carolyn. Carolyn starts to cry because she felt like Danielle did not respect her. Boston Rob takes full responsibility for all of the traders turning on each other. Danielle has taken on the title of messy trader. She said she put it or Andy said it, she put it in her bio on her Instagram that she's a messy traitor.

[Dylan]

Right. I mean, I think she's just embracing the villain Persona that everyone gave her.

[Tamara Judge]

How do you feel about Danielle saying that she swears on her grandchildren's lives?

[Dylan]

I did not blink twice about that because I've seen people do a lot worse on competition shows. Oh, God. Johnny Banana took $200,000 away from this girl, Sarah, who really worked hard and deserved it and needed it. I have seen people do horrible things, so that was just not. She's on a game called traders. You can't believe her. You can't believe anybody.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, but I just feel like that's just a terrible thing to do as a person.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Even if you're doing a game.

[Dylan]

I know. And you have, you know, kids and family and.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, I have a granddaughter.

[Dylan]

I would have a granddaughter.

[Tamara Judge]

I would never even try to, like, jinx that or, you know, like, oh, yeah.

[Dylan]

I mean, it's.

[Tamara Judge]

It's seen.

[Dylan]

I mean, there was a guy that I was friends with on survivor, Johnny Fairplay, and he lied and said told everyone that his grandmother had died so that they would keep him around another week, and, oh, my God, his grandmother was alive.

[Tamara Judge]

That is crazy.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

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Brittany comes out to join the group. Brittany and Danielle have their first ever Traders deja feud. Danielle and Brittany both attest that Danielle never said she was a traitor. So there was some rumors out there that said that she told her that she was a traitor. And I guess it wasn't true.

[Dylan]

I believe it now after seeing everybody talk about it. I think that that's not true. I think that Britney just knew that she was. She just felt it.

[Tamara Judge]

So some of the faithfuls come out next. Many fans think Sandoval's Sandoval redeemed himself after his appearance on Traders. Now, Andy went on a little thick on this. I'm like, okay, Andy, you can stop now. We've seen Tom in a different light and we just love him and we want to see him on every show. I'm like, no, you know what? That leads me to believe that Mr. Andy Cohen is putting Tom on a new show.

[Dylan]

I kind of feel like there might be a guy show coming with Tom and Tom. Two Toms or something. Can't you see it? But I will say Tom Sandoval was funny, but I don't know if he was funny or if we were just making fun of him and he was kind of making fun of himself. So it made him, I mean, I tolerable.

[Tamara Judge]

It is time to move on from the, you know, what happened on Vanderpump Rules and all that. It is like the guy screwed up. But to say that everybody wants them on their TV now. Okay, Andy, no, no, we don't.

[Dylan]

I did want to ask you this. What did you think of everyone's reunion looks like? Who were your favorites?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, wow. Let's see now. I do, I love. I'm going to be biased here, but I do love Dolores. I really kind of liked most of them. I thought that.

[Dylan]

I thought Bob's was really good.

[Tamara Judge]

Which one?

[Dylan]

Bob the drag queen.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. I thought both the Bobs were good.

[Dylan]

That was just.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought there was a lot of boob showing with the Carolyn dress. Like, I was, I'm like, is that a nipple that's coming out? Chrishell is always dressed amazing.

[Dylan]

She has a great stylist.

[Tamara Judge]

She does. And I think that Chanel ion, she is always dressed to the nines like that girl, but she dresses like that to go to the grocery store.

[Dylan]

Exactly. Those are my three faves, actually. Ion Chrishell and Bob the Drag Queen. Those, like, stood out to me so much.

[Tamara Judge]

But Bob Drag Queen, did you see, like, he had, like, blood on the bottom?

[Dylan]

Oh, my God. So iconic. But also I. Ayaan and Bob the Drag Queen are hysterical together.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Dylan]

Like, she was just. She was so, like, they had a really good banter back and forth. She's a really funny girl.

[Tamara Judge]

What did you think about Dorinda going at it?

[Dylan]

Oh, Dorinda got personally offended. I think that. And it does suck. She is such a huge personality. I know she really wanted to be there. She said she called Andy crying.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

That makes me sad.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm close to her and she never told me what happened. Been like that. She got let go first.

[Dylan]

I know. And I think that's really crappy that Bob did away with all the Housewives. But you know what? He. He was a star. He wanted to be the star, and that's fine.

[Tamara Judge]

He's got. He's such. Got a good personality. Like, he really. He talked a lot during the reunion. He was a big, hysterical.

[Dylan]

Is he a comedian too? Because I think he's.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I heard him say. Come to my comedy show.

[Dylan]

Okay. I would go to see him in comedy. He. I think he's really funny.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then Zac Efron did see Bob the Drag Queen's comment about him being a bad actor. Should have seen Baywatch. I didn't understand that. Was Zach on Baywatch?

[Dylan]

Yes. He was one of the actors on Baywatch and he was. Yes. So, like, running around with, like, no shirt, looking hot and. Yes. The movie. Not the. Not the TV show. The movie.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my. I had no idea that Zac Efron was on Baywatch. Movie.

[Dylan]

Yeah, they had.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think I ever saw it. I don't think I ever saw it. That's probably why you just. Or I just have bad memory. Who knows? It was out like 2019. I can't.

[Dylan]

I don't think it was an Oscar nominee.

[Tamara Judge]

So the rest of the cast joined them. Dorinda and Ian went after Bob the Drag Queen and he remained very unbothered, unaffected. Dorinda is pissed, though. Bob didn't know who she was. I know Ion claims that she was the funniest person in the castle and Bob was jealous of her.

[Dylan]

I'm kind of surprised, though, that Dorinda went that hard at Bob the Drag Queen. I mean, like, I really am. She was talking over him. She was just like, and you don't know who I am. I mean, it was just, like, really? Really.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she was mad that she was the first one to go. And he's the one that did it. But remember bananas?

[Dylan]

Yes. He was pissed, too. I mean, there are two huge personalities.

[Tamara Judge]

But when you are sent home, you know, you're. You're gone. After flying all the way over to Scotland, you know, being quarantined for three days.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Doing all the things you have to do, and you get there, and the very first time you film, you're gone. Like, I'm like, oh, my God. That would be. I mean, I think that's everybody's biggest fear when they're. They get cast for the show. I do not want to be the first one gone.

[Dylan]

Yeah. I think that they should bring Dorinda back, to be honest.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, maybe they should bring all the people that got kicked off early.

[Dylan]

Yeah, you too, Tamara, Would you do it again?

[Tamara Judge]

I will not answer that question. I'm not sure, but I. I think, like, you know, Yvette, they're gonna get. They're gonna run out of people. They're gonna run out of people.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I guess when you're looking at 20 people at a time and you're doing, like, reality. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know.

[Dylan]

I know. But I think the whole thing is the dynamics of who they put together. Like, I would love to see you and Dorinda together in a castle. I think that would be really fun. It just changes by the people that they put.

[Tamara Judge]

So, yeah, I would love for them to do a season where we don't know who the traitors are. They disguise their voice.

[Dylan]

I agree. That would be so good.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, they could show, like, not show them, like, show them from behind and everything and do all that, but maybe wear a mask and disguise their voice.

[Dylan]

Mike Cotton from production, make it happen. Looking back at some of the whole things that. The torrent and everything, it was a lot worse than I remembered with Bob and Danielle and Carolyn in there. Like, when they were doing all the.

[Tamara Judge]

Playbacks, it's like, well, they hated each other, and they. They didn't stick together.

[Dylan]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, they were, like, the worst traitor team ever, I will say.

[Dylan]

Like, Danielle, when I first saw her, I was like, oh, she's terrible. Like, whenever she was doing her bad acting and stuff. But looking back on it the second time, seeing her shaking and everything, I had to laugh. I thought it was kind of funny. And I was like, this show is so camp and ridiculous.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, it was funny girl. An Oscar.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

She did the most for sure. It's gonna be interesting to see who the next 20 players are.

[Dylan]

Do you have any people that you'd want to see?

[Tamara Judge]

Mary Cosby would be one because she wouldn't know what the hell she was doing.

[Dylan]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, why am I here? What is going on? I don't like you. Like, yes. I mean, I think that we're gonna see some Salt Lake City girls in there for sure. Housewife world. We always. The. The gamers are going to be out there. Heather Dubrow would be hilarious, but she would never do it. I think that there. There's still a lot of people out there, but I feel like they're gonna. They're gonna have to reuse some people. They're gonna run out of people pretty soon. Jeff Lewis was actually asked to do it once. He would be hilarious. But, you know, he's a single dad, and to put that kind of commitment in, to be gone for that long.

[Dylan]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Not easy.

[Dylan]

I. I do love Jeff Loose, and I think he'd be really good, but like, someone you. There's people that surprise you. Like, I never watched Jaws, but. And so I didn't really know mj, but she was so funny on our show. Like, she had some really good.

[Tamara Judge]

I know she's funny.

[Dylan]

I mean, so you never know.

[Tamara Judge]

Snooki would be good.

[Dylan]

Snooki would be good. Amorosa. She would be fabulous. Yeah, there's just.

[Tamara Judge]

There's a lot of people out there. I'm like, they're. They're. Gonna. I think eventually they're gonna have to recycle some of us.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Ms. Patricia. Ms. Patricia from Southern Charm would be hilarious.

[Dylan]

She would be really good.

[Tamara Judge]

She wouldn't like the accommodations, though. She wouldn't have a butler. She wouldn't have champagne.

[Dylan]

She would be like Max asking for a double room in a hotel with no double rooms.

[Tamara Judge]

And she would. Yeah. She wouldn't have glam, so it'd be a. Probably a hard pass for her.

[Dylan]

Yeah, that is hard. I wonder if they gave them glam this season. Probably still. Probably not.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think so. I mean, Trishell had freaking rhinestones glued to her face. So.

[Dylan]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Why do I call it Trishell, everybody? I know Chris Shell had rhinestones.

[Dylan]

What did you think about Boston Rob? I feel like he gets away with a lot.

[Tamara Judge]

I think he's amazing, and I think that, like, his little raspy voice and his kind of no nonsense, like, he's a gamer.

[Dylan]

He's A gamer. Love him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

The guys want to be him. The gays want to bone him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

I don't know. Absolutely is like, everybody loves Bob. You. He could do anything. I mean, I feel like if it was anyone else that went so hard on Bob the Drag Queen and got trader on trader out, that they would have been getting a lot of heat on social media. But Boston Rob, not so much. People are, like, iconic.

[Tamara Judge]

We also need my. Our girl Teddi on there. I know she would. She loves, like, true crime stuff, so she would. She would thrive in that situation.

[Dylan]

She is such a badass. I actually commented on her Instagram yesterday, and I was like, only you would go through a brain surgery, and the next week you're jogging on a damn treadmill. Like, I wouldn't do that right now.

[Tamara Judge]

I think I said to Dolores when we did a podcast, I go, teddi, it's three weeks since she had surgery to remove three, Four. Four large tumors. And three weeks later, she's in the cold plunge. She's walking on the treadmill. She's going to hot yoga. And I'm like, she is one strong girl.

[Dylan]

She's so tough. It's crazy, but I think that's amazing.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I think about when we were in New Orleans and she had such bad headaches, and we were at a concert.

[Dylan]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Concert. And it's like. I don't know. I mean, she's just strong. Bless her heart.

[Dylan]

He is. She is that. She's tough. She'll. She'll do.

[Tamara Judge]

She's gonna.

[Dylan]

She'll beat this. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So keep praying for Teddi, guys, please. She did just put a new update on her Instagram. If you haven't seen it, go look. Go follow her if you don't. And give our girl a lot of love. So thank you so much, and thank you, Tamara. I'll see you next week.

[Dylan]

All right. Bye, girl.

[Tamara Judge]

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