The Birds & The Bees (Southern Charm Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: The Birds & The Bees (Southern Charm Recap)
Release Date: February 7, 2025

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Introduction

In the episode titled "The Birds & The Bees," hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge delve into the latest happenings of Southern Charm Season 10, Episode 9. Bringing their unique perspectives as former cast members, Teddi and Tamra offer candid insights, humorous anecdotes, and critical assessments of the show's current dynamics.

Recap of Southern Charm Season 10, Episode 9

Teddi and Tamra begin by discussing the overall developments in the episode, expressing curiosity about the ongoing reunion and the expansion of episodes in the season. They focus on key characters and their evolving storylines, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of the episode's major events.

Character Dynamics and Relationship Updates

Madison and Austin

The hosts express excitement over Madison's pregnancy, with Tamra stating, "I'm so happy, but I love her." Teddi adds, "I need more Madison on this show. I feel like it's all about the guys." They highlight Madison's increased presence in the episode, noting her interactions with Austin and the introduction of new romantic interests.

• Notable Quote:
  Teddi Mellencamp at [05:11]: "Is that what that was? Yeah."
  (Referring to a pivotal scene involving Madison and Austin.)

Chad and Craig

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Chad, Teddy's new love interest, and Craig's turbulent relationship with Paige. Tamra questions the authenticity of Chad's character, while Teddi critiques Craig's behavior, labeling his actions as "entertaining" but not necessarily endearing.

• Notable Quote:
  Tamra Judge at [05:09]: "I need to figure this one out."
  (Expressing confusion over Craig's intentions and actions.)

Sienna and Shep

Teddi and Tamra analyze the rocky relationship between Sienna and Shep, emphasizing Shep's emotional vulnerability and Sienna's lack of interest. They discuss the public's perception of their relationship and question the genuineness of Shep's feelings towards Sienna.

• Notable Quote:
  Tamra Judge at [27:35]: "If this isn't a good friend, I don't know what is."
  (Commenting on Whitney's blunt assessment of Shep's suitability with Sienna.)

The Bee Scene and Its Implications

A highlight of the episode is the controversial "bee scene," which Teddi refers to as a potential turning point for Craig and Paige's relationship. The hosts dissect the scene's symbolism and its impact on the characters' futures, debating whether it's a creative storytelling device or a forced plotline.

• Notable Quote:
  Teddi Mellencamp at [09:19]: "Know that bee scene. I'm like, are you guys running out of things to do on that show?"
  (Critiquing the inclusion of the bee scene in the narrative.)

Reflections on Modeling and Personal Anecdotes

Interspersed with their recap, Teddi and Tamra share personal stories related to modeling and self-image. They humorously recount past experiences with headshots and discuss the pressures of maintaining appearances both on and off camera.

• Notable Quote:
  Tamra Judge at [14:00]: "I have zero interest in having sex with Shep, but I would rather have sex with Shep 5 million times more than I would want to have sex with Whitney."
  (Expressing personal preferences and feelings towards fellow cast members.)

Fashion and Style Critiques

The hosts offer critiques on the fashion choices showcased in the episode, including comments on popped collars and specific character styles. They debate the practicality and aesthetics of certain outfits, blending humor with genuine fashion insights.

• Notable Quote:
  Teddi Mellencamp at [24:09]: "I hate a popped collar more than anything in the world."
  (Sharing her personal disdain for a particular fashion trend featured on the show.)

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Teddi and Tamra wrap up the episode by reflecting on the season's trajectory and the potential directions Southern Charm may take in future episodes. They express desires for more balanced character interactions and hope for authentic relationship developments, leaving listeners eager for what's to come.

• Notable Quote:
  Tamra Judge at [29:40]: "I could have done with having some Olivia this season."
  (Wishing for the return of a beloved character to enrich the show's dynamics.)

Insights and Takeaways

Throughout the episode, Teddi and Tamra emphasize the importance of genuine connections and character authenticity within reality TV. Their insider perspectives provide depth to their critiques, offering listeners an enriched understanding of Southern Charm's evolving landscape.

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Transcript

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Two T's in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi, guys.

[Tamara Judge]

Welcome to another episode of Two T's in a Pod. We are recapping Southern Charm, Season 10, Episode 9.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How many episodes do they have? Because I saw that they're doing the reunion.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know how many episodes they have. I do know that is Leva paid solely for just doing phone calls.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's not really on it that much, you know?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I know she has the news.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Madison's pregnant.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I'm so happy, but I love her.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I need more Madison on this show. I feel like it's all about the guys.

[Tamara Judge]

We had a good amount of Madison this ep. I mean, we had more Madison than we had Taylor. Taylor wasn't even on this episode. I mean, not even once. We didn't even get a Gaston shade. Nothing. Well, it starts where Lev. Huh?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Chad. I don't know why Chad. I just think about it. Teddy's new man, Chad.

[Tamara Judge]

Chad. If only that was actually his name. Oh, Chad.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Does he have a good name?

[Tamara Judge]

It's similar to Chad, which is why I picked Chad. It's not. It doesn't start with the same letter, but it's a. A standard enough name. Okay, It's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm gonna try to figure this one out.

[Tamara Judge]

Text me. I mean, it's probably.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Are you following him on Instagram?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Good luck. Happy hunting.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'll look to those million followers.

[Tamara Judge]

Leva calls Vanita to get the scoop on her evening with jt. They're both in disbelief that he has a girlfriend. Why is he openly calling Vanita when he's taken? JT texted Vanita saying he didn't mean to make her look like a home wrecker.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Homewrecker.

[Tamara Judge]

But that's exactly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Easy on those words.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, jt, I just got, you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Know, news for jt. Vanita is way too pretty for you.

[Tamara Judge]

Nice. Like she cooked for him, but it's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Pretty up for him to put her in this situation. I like JT on the show because he does. Because the shit that he does, I think it's entertaining. Do I think he's a great guy?

[Tamara Judge]

No, but hold on. Are we seeing that? Like, Vanita shows up to his hotel room.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is that what that was?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Vanita, you could tell she's in love with him.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Vanita, your picker needs Help.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Your picker's off.

[Tamara Judge]

Your picker's off. Then I kind of love. I'm sad that I didn't watch Southern Charm back in the day because I love Madison and Austin together.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Grabbing them. Grabbing lunch is really, really cute.

[Tamara Judge]

Like there was. There's no sexual chemistry left or anything like that. I'm not trying to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't understand why people say that Madison was mean.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she would like to go crazy on him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think that she was mean in previous seasons?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, this season I don't think she is, but I think in previous seasons, no, I think she's been very. I mean, but I mean, I'm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I like when. I like when Austin says Madison treats me like her gay best friend.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, also, how much would you charge to drink an oyster shooter?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What's in it?

[Tamara Judge]

An oyster. Is it alcohol and tequila?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, no.

[Tamara Judge]

Couldn't. Couldn't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And they both took the shot and was like, oh, let's get another.

[Tamara Judge]

Also, then why did they need to order champagne and then separate drinks and that? Like, then he's like, actually. And a rose. And she's like. And an apparel spritz and a bottle of champagne. I was like, do you think the shit.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And. And tequila, like, okay, that's a disaster hangover.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. But he, you know, Austin can't even help himself. While they're grabbing lunch, he blurts out, this is why I miss you when she mentions that she ordered them shots. But then in Austin's confessional, he admits that Madison put him through hell when they were dating. But now Madison treats Austin like his gbf, which I've never heard. Gbf. I don't, I don't know that that's going to catch on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Never heard that before. But for Austin to even say that my. Her gay best friend.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, she kind of does, though.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He's all, if we took the relationship out of it, we could have been hanging out for years.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You be friends with somebody. Used to date.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I wasn't into him. If I ended it. Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

If they ended it and I was still in love with them, probably not. But then they talk about how Craig is making Austin feel like a 13 year old girl because he's dying to hang out with him. Madison tells Austin to lift the middle finger up to Craig and move on with his life. Austin's going to treat Craig as if he were a girl. And Madison likes that idea, telling him he needs to play hard to get. I mean, First Austin. Austin is the gay best friend, and then now he's talking about his relationship with Craig like it's his girlfriend. I'm slightly confused.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I really don't understand why people are like, all the guys are saying so many things about Craig. Craig is in love. Craig is changing his life. Craig is not the party boy anymore. And it's like he's not doing anything horrible.

[Tamara Judge]

Know what he did get himself into? Paige not being into him anymore.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, we're showing. They are showing the demise of their relationship.

[Tamara Judge]

One, I gotta say, I don't want anyone calling me chicken where I don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Even know where that came from.

[Tamara Judge]

They call each other chicken. Two, I don't want bees. I'm gonna tell you right now, I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Know that bee scene. I'm like, are you guys running out of things to do on that show?

[Tamara Judge]

I couldn't want anything less than a beehive. I don't care who the queen bees.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you want bees in your backyard so you can have fresh honey?

[Tamara Judge]

No. Absolutely. I would be afraid.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'd rather just go to the farmer's market and buy it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they put the beekeeper suits on and follow the expert out to the hives. Who. Also weird. Did you notice that the beekeeper may or may not have been the same person as the person running the photo shoot?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Was it stop.

[Tamara Judge]

Was like, if I would have had the time, I would have rewinded. But I was like, well, I didn't notice her. Wasn't she the beat?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What I did, what I did notice was the underlying tension between Craig and. And Paige.

[Tamara Judge]

So do we think production saying, like, okay, you guys need to talk about your relationship, and Paige is coming unhinged? Not unhinged, but like, she's just like, enough already. I've already told you this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But, I mean, I think the reason why Paige broke up with them is because he wants his own bees. She's like, nope, sorry, can't do that. And he's like, I'd love to have a farm. She's like, no, no. I like, no.

[Tamara Judge]

It's very confusing because if I were Paige, I would start to think while watching this. If I were Paige, I would think, is he really into me or is he into just, like, wanting to be and have a family right now?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, he just wants to be lovey dovey. And she's like, I love making up fake fantasies in my head, but I have more realistic bones in my body than you do. Craig's like, I just want to be lovey doy. And Talk about our family.

[Tamara Judge]

Please don't say lovey dovey either. Disgust.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, he's. He's in it. I think that he would be a really good boyfriend, our husband.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Paige. Paige made a good point, which I appreciated her saying this. She's like, um, you know, when you were 31, imagine somebody putting the pressure on you that you're putting on me. It's not fair. And he makes her feel like she's 75.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, here's the thing. They. They're going on three years of dating. It is not uncommon to talk about the future in your 30s. He's what, 36? She's 31.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That is. I don't see anything wrong with it. It's just that she's not into him like he's into her. If she had the right guy. And he's like, there are three years in and he's like, I want to get married. She's like, yes, let's do it.

[Tamara Judge]

But I have a question. Do you think she was more into bad boy Craig? Because, like, when they met, it was like he was partying with Austin and Shep all the time. It was kind of like a loose cannon. And then now he's completely changed his life.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, probably. I think that for me personally, I couldn't be with somebody that was so sensitive and then makes pillows. So it was not. It's just. It wouldn't work for me.

[Tamara Judge]

And wants to harvest bees.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes. Yes. Take the girl out of New York City and put her on a farm with bees and goats and chickens.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I hate to even make a be metaphor, but it feels like Craig's about to get stung.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know he's going to get stung. But listen, I. Right now, I'd want chickens in my backyard if I could because it's $20 for eggs right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Honestly, I'm so hungry right now. I don't appreciate you talking about food.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm hungry, too.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm so hungry.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, you're doing great. You're doing great.

[Tamara Judge]

Thanks. Thanks. Then Molly's getting ready for her modeling shoot. I watching Molly, like, I love her. She's so self deprecating, though. I sometimes realize that I do that myself. And it's making me be like, teddy, you have to stop doing that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Am I as self deprecating as Molly?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't think so.

[Tamara Judge]

Your voice went up an octave when.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You said no, no, no.

[Tamara Judge]

Because it's like kind of making. It's like, ho hum. Like, I don't want. I got what do you think the.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Modeling convention would tell us to work on everything? Yeah, get a waste, get away.

[Tamara Judge]

Get a waist, grow some inches, Cut your extensions out. Like, I don't think that we have.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wear less makeup.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I mean, wear more makeup than you wear on the pod.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Get your ankles lipoed.

[Tamara Judge]

But she is beautiful. And like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, the pictures are beautiful.

[Tamara Judge]

The pictures are beautiful. There was like a model convention at one of our horse shows when we were like 12, early 90s. We're staying at like a Ramada. We get home from the horse show and there's a Barbizon convention. And I, me, my friend Callie, my friend Liza, we're like, we should go. We didn't make it to the first round of cuts.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, you should hear my modeling story. Other than the waterbed commercial I did Water bed. Yeah, that was in the 80s. You know how you used to get approached at the mall?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. So someone's like, oh, we would love to do headshots with you. And I'm like, I'm like, here I am, five foot three. What am I thinking? I'm like, yeah, sure, drive my ass to la, have these modeling shots done and then paid for them. And. Yeah, and then the place was gone missing. Never got my pictures. Never. Like it was a scam.

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[Tamara Judge]

Of course it was. I love that you paid for your pictures after being scouted. No, when I go back to like the early 90s or the late 90s headshots of mine, like, I have a belly button piercing showing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You do?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. That I think was photoshopped on. I don't even think I had a belly button.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think everybody, a lot of people have had the. Eddie has headshots, Edwin has headshots. Right? Everybody's. Oh my God, who did we think we were?

[Tamara Judge]

Can you find one of your headshots, Tam?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't have them, remember?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, you never got it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Never got them. They closed shop. It was in some alleyway in la.

[Tamara Judge]

Broke all the cameras and then there were done.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

All right, I like Molly. I like that. I'm pretty sure Molly and Shep are going to end up together. Shep's mad at me. We're on an insta fight right now.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

About what? Did you say something on the pod about him?

[Tamara Judge]

No. We were texting and I said, I think you're still in love with Taylor. And he was like, off Teddy. And I was like, well, I do. I'm just being I've known you forever and I, I think that you are. And I think that if you made like a proper effort. He's like, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm always going to have love for her. Of course. Like pulled one of those. And then I was like, why are you getting so mad then?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because he is. And Taylor don't want him.

[Tamara Judge]

I think Taylor would want him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's got Gaston.

[Tamara Judge]

We don't even see Taylor anymore. That tells me how.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because she's gone.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh gosh. Then we get to Ms. Patricia's house. I I wonder like how we do at a Miss Patricia dinner.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think that we would do just great. I think we'd hit it off. I really do. I don't think we'd hit it off with Whitney, though.

[Tamara Judge]

I He is the most punchable.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Was he wasted?

[Tamara Judge]

Hammered.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hammered.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. I mean, I think they tried to play off that the chair broke because it hadn't been.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, he was leaning back in it and it broke.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but then he was so mean to Shep.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He was just mean, period. And.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, I'm like anyone reaching out to you on Raya, that they're into you, they see that you're a producer on a television show. I'm. I have zero interest in having sex with Shep, but I would rather have sex with Shep 5 million times more than I would want to have sex with Whitney.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I will second that.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, Mary, kill Whitney, Shep and jt. Go.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Really?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I know. I was. I was going to give an easy Austin.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

And then I remember JT's in the mix, so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, God. So you're trying to make me pick who to kill between JT and Whitney. Thank you very much.

[Tamara Judge]

You're welcome. I can't be killing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think I'm gonna have to kill. I'm gonna have to kill Whitney.

[Tamara Judge]

You would marry jt?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, would I marry Whitney?

[Tamara Judge]

At least I think. I don't know. But would you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is he rich? I'm trying to find the silver lining here. Okay, so if he's rich, maybe I'll marry Whitney. For how long before I get. I mean, you could marry 10 years to get the full alimony. Because I don't got good 10 years left.

[Tamara Judge]

I hate to break it to you. If 26 year old supermodels are reaching out to Whitney, he may not be into us.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think I would marry Shep.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think Shep's gonna marry anyone. Probably ever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Probably you're right. He'll be a bachelor the rest of his life dating 20 year olds.

[Tamara Judge]

Ms. Patricia is getting everybody set up for dinner. All the men show up looking very dapper.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We need more girls on that show that are involved. I like Vanita, but I need somebody with a little bit more spunk, a little bit more charisma, a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

More sass, Southern charm. If you guys need some good southern spicy gals, I know a lot. I'm from there, so I could easily cast this for you guys.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You could always move there and be on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not really interested in doing that solely because of my options. I thought for a minute I could have a crush on Craig until I saw the bee scene. And now that's. Now that's done. So.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. But then we learn Miss Patty took the Rolls Royce out for a spin with Shep even though she hasn't driven in 40 years. She drove off a curb, almost ran over someone, and then hit the car.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you see that scene where she literally almost hit somebody?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I'm also. She gives me very, like. And I love her, so I'm not. This isn't shade. This is, like, in the positive way. But she gives me so much LVP.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Vibes a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

But Craig showing up looking like he just got out of Abercrombie and Fitch.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Not Abercrombie. Not as long as he didn't smell like the store.

[Tamara Judge]

No, he probably did. And this is probably one of the reasons that Paige couldn't make it. She had to end it then. Everyone eats their dinner. The topic of Craig and Paige gets brought up. They really went after Craig here, though, for a while. I want to pop my collar, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I hate a popped collar more than anything in the world.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't on a girl, though.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. A girl is different. Eddie has that one jacket that's like.

[Tamara Judge]

A really short popped collar.

[H]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Edwin has it, too, and so does.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But you said you liked it. And I go, no, I don't like it. Eddie said he'll never wear it again.

[Tamara Judge]

There's another person that starts with an R that has the same jacket. So now it's ruined for all of us.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. That's when he said, I'll no longer wear that jacket. No.

[Tamara Judge]

But then Craig reveals that he's going to propose. I don't. I wonder if this is true, all of this that's happening, because when we go back in history, Craig does kind of make up stuff. Like, Craig said he was. Went to law school and didn't like things like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. Who says stuff like that?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. So when he's saying, like, that the rings are picked and she picked rings, I'm like, she. To me, it doesn't seem like she's anywhere near picking rings.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. She's given him every red flag. Every red. And I think the more red flags and the more rejection that she gives him, the harder he's trying.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then you got shop with Sienna. It's like, dude, she. She's not.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm sorry, she's not calling you for five days? Yeah, I mean, I'm not, but, like, that is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We got some desperate boys on the show this year.

[Tamara Judge]

But, I mean, nothing to me says romance like a printout of a ring screenshot with a box that says, pick one.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's very romantic.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you remember. Did you pick out your ring?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I didn't Pick out my ring. But I did have it remade.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. See, I. So this is my original ring, but I had it remade. But this was not re. I didn't have it remade until I got my upgrade ring that now I don't wear anymore. But I love this ring. Like, I don't think I can ever. I love, love, love it, but it feels weird to wear to repurpose my. Engage my other ring.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I. Sometimes I think I want to get just a simple. Just one diamond ring.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now, you know, jewelry goes out of style.

[Tamara Judge]

I still need to get my knife tattoo. So until that happens, I can't be doing all the things. Oh, can we do it in New Orleans?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Knife tattoo.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh, Tam, you don't know. My sister and I wanted to do this at Christmas, but the guy couldn't come over. We want to get this cute little, like, letter opener knife right here so that whenever we're annoyed at somebody, we can just go.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

God, yeah, I'll pass on the knife tattoo.

[Tamara Judge]

You're gonna get it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I'm not getting a knife tattoo.

[Tamara Judge]

You're so full of. You said you were never getting a tattoo, and now.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, but I'm not getting a knife one.

[Tamara Judge]

No, we're gonna find a cute little.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Cute little baby. Oh, we'll get friendship tattoos.

[Tamara Judge]

Then I can do it to you on the pod whenever. You're pissing me off instead of holding up the white.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't piss you off. Take it back.

[Tamara Judge]

Then we get into the topic of Sienna and Shep some more. Shep says they both have said I love you to each other. And then Austin thinks she's only saying that to keep him hooked. And then when Shep admits he doesn't know where he stands with Sienna, Whitney decides to give him an answer. You're not good looking enough.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're not coming from Whitney. Coming from Whitney.

[H]

Hold on.

[Tamara Judge]

Let me read the exact quote. If this isn't a good friend, I don't know what is. You're not rich enough. You're boring. You're not famous enough. And that's the overriding issue. Sienna has zero interest in you. She's the one who reached out to me first.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I get the ick every time the camera pans to Whitney. He doesn't even have to say anything.

[Tamara Judge]

I think hair is so greasy. It's like on day six.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I have an issue with guys with ruby red lips. I do. I don't know what it's like. Oh, nope.

[Tamara Judge]

I have chai coming through my nose. You have to warn me. I. Ruby Red. I cannot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I just can't. I'm like, no. Nope. Sorry.

[Tamara Judge]

Who? I'm trying to think of past Southern charmers who have hooked up with Whitney, I think. Remember the pretty redhead that, like, got into some trouble? Yeah, Yeah. I think she used to hook up with Whitney. Do we miss Thomas Ravenel? Like, do we need him back?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I barely remember him. Oh, oh, Thomas, the old guy.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, he's probably your age, but.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, but for that group of people, he's, like, closer to Ms. Patricia's age.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but you are right. There needs to be more girl interaction. I leva calling in from Lowe's like, or Marshall's with her son to, like, be there for her friend when, like, I can't even visually understand what she looks like at this point because we haven't seen her so long. What? I miss the girl that used to be with Austin.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't remember her.

[Tamara Judge]

We had her on the pod. Olivia.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, Olivia. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I could have done with having some Olivia this season.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, Olivia's moved on. She got a boyfriend in Texas or something like that, doesn't she?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I'm sure she would come back to the show if we asked.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh. Because we have that power.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, talk soon.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Bye. This podcast is supported by BetterHelp, offering licensed therapists you can connect with via video phone or chat. Here's BetterHelp head of clinical operations, Hes Yu Jo discussing who can benefit from therapy.

[H]

I think a lot of people think that you're supposed to be going to therapy once you're, like, having panic attacks every day. But before you get to that point, I think once you start even noticing that, you feel a little bit off and you can't maintain this harmony that you once had in relationships, that could be a sign that maybe you want to go talk to somebody. There's always a benefit in talking to someone because we can all benefit from improved insight about ourselves and who we are and how we behave with other people. So if you're human, that's, like, a good indicator that you could benefit from talking to somebody.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Find out if therapy is right for you. Visit betterhelp.com today. That's betterhelp.com the Unshakeables podcast is kicking.

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