The Eds: unEDited Wife Swap Edition: Joe Gorga

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod: The Eds unEDited Wife Swap Edition – Joe Gorga (Oct 14, 2025)

Main Theme & Overview

This episode of "The Eds" (a special spin-off within Two Ts In A Pod) features hosts Eddie Judge and Edwin Arroyave in a lively, unfiltered conversation with returning guest Joe Gorga, famed husband from Real Housewives of New Jersey. The centerpiece: Joe and his wife Melissa’s experience filming the new celebrity version of “Wife Swap.” The episode dives deep into Joe's openness to the experiment, the couple's strong marriage, behind-the-scenes realities of the swap, and wider themes of trust, family values, and personal growth. Along the way, they riff on fame, fatherhood, love, and, yes, hypotheticals about swapping spouses for millions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Welcoming Joe & Setting the Scene

• Eddie introduces Joe Gorga as one of the show’s top favorite house husbands, noting his “do anything and everything” personality. (03:03)
• Joe jokes: “I want to be your favorite... I want to be top favorite.” (04:02)

Why Do Wife Swap?

• Joe reveals it was Melissa who was initially hesitant, not him:

  "When Melissa first told me about the show, I was all for it... Melissa is very jealous... I’m a little jealous, but she’s super jealous." (04:47–05:58)

• He convinced Melissa, not the other way around:

  “She had to get security... For the first three weeks she was saying no. I had to convince her.” (06:09–06:39)

How Real Was the Swap?

• The experience was 100% blind:

  “They don’t tell you anything—nothing. No pictures, nothing about them, nothing.” (08:16)

• No contact with Melissa during the swap:

  “When she was gone... no talking to the wife, they monitored everything.” (08:36)

• Cameras everywhere, 24/7:

  “Even in your bedroom when you were sleeping, they wanted to hear everything.” (09:02)

Personal Revelations & Relationship Growth

• Joe on learning about himself:

  “You kind of become each other, right?... So now when you get somebody new and they got their different ways... with our significant others... they’re on top of us at all times... Somebody new in the house was kind of, it was nice.” (09:40–10:27)

• On missing Melissa versus appreciating “the new”

  “I wasn’t getting yelled at... We’re not even doing anything wrong, we get yelled at!” (10:31)

Fears, Jealousy, and Hypotheticals

• Was Joe worried about Melissa being with a billionaire?

  “Did I have a little concern?... I said, ‘Babe, if you’re going to a billionaire’s house...’ That’s what we heard.” (13:29–14:44)

• The "Indecent Proposal" game:
  Joe and hosts joke about how much money it would take for them to swap wives for a night:

  “My brother... I’m gonna pay you $2 million. He goes, absolutely... Would I do it? I don’t know. Maybe the first five years, ten years, absolutely not. 21 years, you gotta pay me a lot of money.” (17:05–18:10)
  Eddie: “Today it would be like a billion dollars, you know. I need a billion dollars.” (18:35)

Family Dynamics and Parenting

• Joe on his kids’ reactions:

  “They thought, they’re like, I’m not doing it, I’m not doing it... Their friends bust their balls cause their parents are on a reality show.” (26:22–26:53)

• On being a generous but boundaries-setting dad:

  “I almost give them everything. Because they’re good kids... Their job is their sports.” (29:04, 29:57)

• On modern risks for teens:
  Edwin brings up sextortion and catfishing dangers for athletes and affluent kids. Joe: "My boys are hip to that... they’re very chill, very cool, respectful, but they’re boys." (31:43–32:15)

Specifics of the Wife Swap

• Length of the swap:

  “Four days. That’s it.” (32:34–32:37)

• Biggest challenges:
  • Joe struggled with the “all day, every day” presence of Michelle, his swapped wife, who followed him everywhere, vs. his usual routine:

    “I leave at 4:35 a.m. I go to work... I’m gone all day... I don’t want my wife on top of me, next to me in a truck, in a car, in meetings.” (33:19–33:41)

• Melissa’s ocd and Michelle’s disorganization:

  "Melissa’s crazy ocd... I’m used to everything so clean and neat, and as soon as you put the cup down, you turn around, it’s gone... With Michelle, it just wasn’t the same.” (34:52–35:10)

• Joe’s daughter helping during the swap:

  "She kind of took over the household. Yes. Cleaning and organizing... she really impressed me.” (34:30–34:43)

Reflections & Takeaways From the Swap

• Did Joe appreciate Melissa more?

  “Oh yeah, of course... But there’s some things that you like... you kind of appreciate the other one in a way, you’re like, oh, wow... You’re gonna have to watch the show.” (36:25–36:50)

Housewives, Fame, & Friendships

• BravoCon, stand-up, and more:
  Joe invites the guys to his comedy shows in Vegas during BravoCon, and shares mutual admiration with Michelle and her husband from the swap. (37:33–39:14)
• Who would Joe swap with in the franchise?

  “I was really gonna say you [Eddie/Edwin]... Most in Beverly Hills aren’t married anymore... Maybe I’ll go to Dubai because I want to go to Dubai.” (42:29–44:04)

Family Healing & Relationship With Teresa

• On making up with his sister Teresa:

  “She did text me... she reached out. She would like to sit down and meet... If I sit down with her and I hear her out, it has to be very humble, very real... If not… I’m a good brother. I never wanted to argue.” (46:27–47:01)

• Forgiveness and moving on:

  “If no one made up, there’d be no ceasefire ever. You have to make up, you have to move on or everybody would be dead... You could hurt me, as long as you apologize to me, I accept it. I’m kind of a pushover. I got a good heart.” (47:19–48:04)

  • On raising kids without grudges:

    “She [Melissa] has forgiven my sister so many times and in a good way... She listens to me, loves our family... Our kids, we never say anything bad ever. That’s your aunt. Go say hi.” (49:48–50:23)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On routine and marriage:

  “For 21 years I’ve been eating at the same restaurant… Sometimes you gotta change it up. You know, get some dirty dogs in… gravy and cheese… No, but listen, true story.” — Joe Gorga (04:47)

• On jealousy & trust:

  “All my friends are like, ‘You’re letting your wife go to another man’s house?’... I go, ‘Listen, guys... When you got this, she can go anywhere.’” (11:31–12:02)

• On the realities of being a public family:

  “I buy my kids… I give them, I almost give them everything. Because they’re good kids… They work hard. Their job is their sports.” — Joe Gorga (29:04, 29:57)

• On reunification with Teresa:

  “She did text me... If I sit with her, it has to be humble, real… I don’t want to argue or hold a grudge... I got a good heart.” (46:27–48:04)

• On closure and forgiveness:

  “You could hurt me, as long as you apologize... I accept it… I’m kind of a pushover; I got a good heart.” — Joe Gorga (48:04)

• Parenting wisdom:

  “Our kids, we never say anything bad ever... Because we don’t want to raise our children like that. What kind of parents will we be to put them in our argument?” (50:23–50:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:03 – Joe joins and conversation opens on Wife Swap
• 04:47–06:39 – How the Wife Swap idea came up and Melissa’s initial reaction
• 08:16–09:02 – Swap logistics: total secrecy, 24/7 cameras, no contact
• 09:19–10:31 – Joe on marriage routines and how the swap changed his perspective
• 12:34–14:44 – Fears of what a “billionaire swap” would mean
• 17:05–18:35 – The “Indecent Proposal” game: would you swap for $2 million?
• 26:22–29:04 – Joe’s kids’ reactions and family philosophy
• 32:34–34:43 – Duration of the swap and daughter stepping up
• 34:52–35:10 – Comparing OCD Melissa to swapped wife Michelle’s style
• 36:25–36:50 – Did the swap make Joe appreciate Melissa more?
• 42:29–44:04 – Which other housewife would Joe swap with?
• 46:27–50:44 – Reconciliation prospects with Teresa; teaching forgiveness in family

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Final Thoughts

This episode is fast, funny, and revealing—an all-access look at what happens when reality TV’s strongest marriages stress-test their trust. Joe’s candor about his marriage, family, and personal growth shines. The hosts add plenty of honest, relatable humor and vulnerability, particularly around modern fatherhood and relationship challenges. If you love behind-the-scenes real-life drama with a sprinkle of househusband swagger, this one’s unmissable.

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[Podcast Host]

This is the Eds with Eddie Judge and Edwin Arroyave.

[Eddie Judge]

All right, welcome Back to the Eds. I'm Eddie Judge. I got my co host, and I'm Edwin Ariabe. And we have our. One of our favorite house husband guests back on our show. Everybody knows him as Joe Gorga from the New Jersey Housewives. And we have him on because he did something that probably none of us would ever do, and that's swap. His wife, like, literally gave his wife to some other guy for his wife. Holy hell, man.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I can't wait to hear all about this.

[Eddie Judge]

I mean, I don't know how he could do that. So anyways, Wife Swap is premiering, I think next week, right? Yeah, next week. Yeah. So go ahead, get out there and watch it and let's hear all about it. Joe, welcome to the show.

[Joe Gorga]

What's up, guys? Hey, but let me ask you something. Am I really your favorite? Am I the favorite? Are you just saying that because I'm on the show?

[Eddie Judge]

You're one of my favorites. You're literally one of my favorites.

[Joe Gorga]

One of the favorites. I want to be top favorite. I want to be your favorite.

[Eddie Judge]

You're definitely on the top. We've had some amazing guests on the show, but you are definitely the top favorite because you're everywhere, Joe. You do everything and anything.

[Joe Gorga]

I love it a little bit. Everything. Got it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Very entertaining.

[Joe Gorga]

Yourself. You got to constantly reinvent yourself.

[Eddie Judge]

Well, first off, let me. Let me ask you this because I. There's one thing you and Melissa have in common with my wife and I, and that's we're inseparable. I can't imagine one night without her, let alone having another woman in my house living with me. Not necessarily sleeping with me, but, you know, in the same household playing, you know, housewife. How the hell did they talk you into this?

[Joe Gorga]

I tell you, really, for me, when, when they first told me, I was like. When my wife first told me she. She was the One that really gave the problem. I wasn't the one. When they told me, I was like, yeah, I already. Right thing. I was like, yeah, you know, like, listen, you're looking at the same menu. Think about. You live, wherever you live, there's only one restaurant, right? And it's. You go to that one restaurant, there's no other restaurant. Everything's closed now. For 21 years, I've been eating at the same restaurants. You go up in the menu and there's one thing on the menu. That's it. You know, so sometimes you got to change it up. You need to know, get some dirty dogs in, French fries or gravy and cheese. A hamburger, cheeseburger. Gotta switch it up. No, no, but listen, true story. When, when, when Melissa first told me about the. The show, I was all for it. I'm like, okay, let's try it. I'm. I'm into that. It was. I was. No, no big deal. And I mean that a hundred percent. Where Melissa was the one that she was. She was unsure. You know, Melissa is very jealous. More very. She's more jealous. And I'm a little jealous, but she's super jealous.

[Eddie Judge]

And she's the one that came to you.

[Joe Gorga]

She. Oh, yeah, because she obviously got the offer. They called her. They got the offer. She's one of.

[Eddie Judge]

How does she present it to you?

[Joe Gorga]

She said, listen, you know, they, they. Would you believe? She goes, they want to do this wipe swap. Like, you know, you. That means I gotta go sleep with the guy at his house and you gotta. The girl. I go, let's do. Took it. Took. Let me tell you something. She was. She wasn't happy. She was very confused. I mean, she was going through it. She's like, I don't know. She had to get security. I mean, she. I had to convince her, basically.

[Eddie Judge]

She.

[Joe Gorga]

For the first three weeks a month, she was saying no. Yeah, I was the one convinced. I'm like, are you nuts? We're doing this? I mean, let's do it. What could happen? I mean, come on.

[Eddie Judge]

Well, take us through the nitty gritty of what they told you. Like, what's going to happen. I got to put it out there. Obviously, you're not going to sleep with this woman, right? So that's off the table. But what were the things that were presented to you that were like, yeah, I could do that. Yeah, I could do that. I don't know about that.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, I'm assuming it was. I'm assuming it's like a blind date. You don't see a picture. You don't see anything. You don't know anything about the person.

[Joe Gorga]

You're right.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I assume you're not sleeping in the same bed, or do they make you at least sleep in the same bed?

[Joe Gorga]

No, she tried to. She knocked on my door. She knocked on my door. She's like, you know, I, this, this woman, which I loved her. I, I'm gonna be honest. I loved her. She's inseparable with her husband. They do everything together. I mean, everything. And like you, you guys, we go to work, we separate. This woman did not separate from her husband. They don't. They do everything together.

[Eddie Judge]

That's awesome.

[Joe Gorga]

She knocked on my door one night. She's like, I can't sleep alone, can I? No, no, I'm only kidding. But no, no. When you, when you.

[Eddie Judge]

I don't believe that, Joe, because I know that she doesn't like, you know, Italian sausage because she's a vegan, so there's no way she could have knocked out.

[Joe Gorga]

How did you know that?

[Eddie Judge]

I saw the clip. That was the funniest freaking clip. I've been vegan for two days. I can't wait to give you the steak or the sausage.

[Joe Gorga]

Sausage. Edward. They don't tell you anything? Nothing.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Wow.

[Joe Gorga]

It was very hush hush. No pictures, nothing about them, nothing. It was very. Yeah, I couldn't even call Melissa when, When it really went down, everything went down. Phones were shut down.

[Eddie Judge]

So you couldn't talk to your wife the whole time?

[Joe Gorga]

I talked to my wife. No, when she was gone, soon as she left, no talking to the wife, they monitored everything. So I couldn't tell her what was going on. She couldn't tell me what was going on.

[Eddie Judge]

That's interesting.

[Joe Gorga]

Cameras, everywhere, they, they put. It was. Yeah, it was.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, they took it to back in the day where they would just have cameras everywhere.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

24 7.

[Joe Gorga]

Listen to everything. Even in your bedroom when you were sleeping, they, they wanted to hear everything.

[Eddie Judge]

Really? Wow.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was like, I want to watch this. Yeah, it was good. It was good. It was, it was, it was, it was. It was definitely a great experience, I could tell you that.

[Eddie Judge]

Okay.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, it was awesome. It really was.

[Eddie Judge]

What, what changed you? I'm assuming you're saying great experience because something inside you changed or you learned something really valuable about it. What, what, what, what was so valuable about it?

[Joe Gorga]

I mean, I, I can't tell you much, but I've learned. I did learn a lot. Like, you know, we're all stuck in our ways.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

Like you know, you guys were your wives. What happens is you kind of become each other, right?

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

You know, my wife drinks Pellegrino. I drink Pellegrino. We both, we just, that's all we drink. You kind of become, you know, the same person. So now when you get somebody new and they got their different ways and the way they do things, it's kind of, it's, it's kind of, you know, it's nice, it's fun. And then you with, with our significant others, it becomes more like, yeah, they love us, they adore us, but we're with them every day, so they're on top of us at all times. Right. If we do something, they're yelling at us. They're always bitching. Tell the truth.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

Somebody new in the house was kind of, it was nice.

[Eddie Judge]

Get it? You don't get called out every five minutes.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, no, it's all nice stuff. I wasn't getting yelled at. You know, we're not even doing anything wrong. We get yelled at. I know. We walk in the room from work. We didn't even do anything. We're yelling again. What are you doing? Go get the boxes from Amazon. Bring them inside, you know, which is like, how do you dare come in the house? Did you see the box? I'm like, yeah, no, I didn't see the box. Yeah.

[Eddie Judge]

That's funny.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, but it was.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So you, were you, were you concerned? Was there any concern that they might just send you, like, a 10 supermodel type wife? That Melissa was just going to be like, wait a minute. This girl, this girl cannot be in my house.

[Joe Gorga]

I tell you, I wasn't concerned. I, I, you know, I, I, you know, I was hoping, you know, she was great.

[Eddie Judge]

That thought did cross my mind. I was gonna ask that.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, it's just like when you get a nanny, like, do you get a Nanny that's a 10? Do you.

[Joe Gorga]

No, no.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Do you know that's not really gonna happen.

[Eddie Judge]

Right.

[Joe Gorga]

I had some nannies that were tens, and I was shocked that my wife picked them. I'm like, holy. I'm like, what's going on with you? You know, I didn't have some tens, which was great. So, and, but all my friends are like, listen, you're letting your wife go to another man's house and think that they were losing it? You know, like, dude, what's going on with you? I go, listen, guys, guys, guys. When you're got this, she can go anywhere.

[Eddie Judge]

She's not gonna get the same thing.

[Joe Gorga]

Anywhere, you know, My father said, I didn't make them like this. I made them like this. I'm vertically challenged.

[Eddie Judge]

That's funny.

[Joe Gorga]

But no, it was, it was, it was, it was good. Obviously, I trust my wife. There was no concerns. I mean, you know, you don't hear from her for four days, you know, you know, anything can happen, you know. Yeah, we've heard. You know, she could have fell in love with this man. Right. And you're like, what the hell? You never know. I could have fell over this woman.

[Eddie Judge]

Not, not in four days. No way. It takes longer than that.

[Joe Gorga]

I don't know about that things.

[Eddie Judge]

Well, if you got a 10 or 11 or a 15, maybe I could, I could see the potential in that. But when you're so connected, like you and Melissa are, I just can't see anything like that penetrating that love, that, that, that loyalty and that, that, you know, that just connection with each other. And as you're talking, I'm like, if I was to be in the same situation as you, I trust my wife 100%. And the only, you know, the only insecurity would be if this guy that looks like Rico Suave or something flies in a G5 and lands in my front yard and takes her away, then, yeah, maybe I might lose her to that. But generally speaking, I'm very confident that our connection is so strong that there's no way that she would not come back. Right.

[Joe Gorga]

Well, I, I, we thought, we thought that they were sending us or sending Melissa to some billionaire's house.

[Eddie Judge]

Okay, that's.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, because that takes a lot of.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Confidence on your end.

[Eddie Judge]

Yes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I mean, you did pretty well for yourself. But imagine these. Send her out to like some bachelor type guy from like the early seasons where they used to be just loaded, good looking, had everything going for them.

[Eddie Judge]

Right.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's a, that's a big risk there. And you still went with it because.

[Joe Gorga]

That'S what we were hearing. There was some billionaire that they were filming with some billionaire, that's what we heard. And some billionaire husband and wife. And we thought, because where we were, we weren't when they gave her the clothes that she was gonna wear, because they do say you can, you're not gonna be in like the wilderness. You're not gonna be. Because some of them went to some, like the wilderness and you're not going to be here. So we kind of thought we were heading to like la.

[Eddie Judge]

Okay.

[Joe Gorga]

She was headed to LA and she was going to be with some billionaires. So, you know, did I have a little Concern. And I'm like, I said to her, I said, babe, I was always playing with it because I'm always joking.

[Edwin Arroyave]

What was that, what was that movie from the 80s with Demi Moore, Decent Proposal? Yeah. That just reminded me of that with Robert Redford right now.

[Joe Gorga]

Let me ask you guys something like, like be honest now, all right, if, if, if that ever happened to you right now. How long you guys been married? How long you been married?

[Eddie Judge]

I've been married 12 years.

[Joe Gorga]

12 years. And you, Ed?

[Edwin Arroyave]

I'm on 13 years, but working on a separation, so. But 13 years.

[Joe Gorga]

See, we all, it all ends once in a while, so it doesn't last forever. You're from her cancer?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Eddie Judge]

Yes, yes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

We just got some great news on that.

[Joe Gorga]

I've been out of the loop, man. That's good. God bless.

[Eddie Judge]

Thank you. Definitely a miracle.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's been a crazy year for us.

[Joe Gorga]

I'm sorry that you're going through that, man. You know. You're okay?

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

Everything okay?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, day by day. So first came to separation, then we found out about the, the cancer about five months, four months after that, five months after that also.

[Joe Gorga]

First with the separate, you know, I'm here. See, I've been out of the loop and I apologize about that.

[Eddie Judge]

But.

[Joe Gorga]

Wow. So first she, first she separated and then, yeah, the cancer came and then.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And now we put a stop to it until, you know, we figure that, that part out. You know, for her health comes first.

[Joe Gorga]

Are you together in a house?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yes, I'll live here like 90% of the time and just make sure that she's, you know, she's taken care of and the kids are taken care of and. And then I go back at the end of the night to my other house.

[Joe Gorga]

Okay.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So we're going through it, but yeah, we just got some great news this week. So last week I should say, wow, that sucks.

[Joe Gorga]

I apologize.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, no, no, no worries. But ask us the question you were going to ask us.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You were going to ask us some question about being married for a long time. So we got 13 years, I think. Eddie, you were, you're working on what?

[Eddie Judge]

13?

[Edwin Arroyave]

13, 12.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, well, I, you know, we, we always played his game and we were playing it with my brother in laws, my, my two brother in laws and my sister in laws. And this, the show was being, it was on the tv, we were all hanging out and the show was on, you know, lady, what was that? Indecent proposal.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

And we all start talking and we're saying, listen. So they asked me, you know, well, we asked my brother. I go, my brother to my woman. I go, would you. Would if somebody came to you like a billionaire came and said they want to take Lisa away, would you.

[Podcast Host]

Would you do it?

[Joe Gorga]

And he goes, well, how much? I go, everybody's got a price.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

I go, I'm gonna pay you $2 million. He goes, tax free. Two million cash. He goes, absolutely. And he loves her, adores it. A lovely. Have the best relationship. And now she's thinking, I go, would you. She goes, well, Scott, would you let me. She goes, absolutely. She's like, okay, $2 million. She's like, that's a lot of money.

[Eddie Judge]

So they were one night, just one.

[Joe Gorga]

Night, they were talking about this all night. They talked about it the next day, the following day, like, well, if we got the $2 million, we would do this with the money. We would do. Say they were all for it, you know, So I, Yeah, I asked myself, and I have to been married 21 years, and I love. I adore my wife. Would I do it? I don't know. Maybe the first five years, 10 years. Absolutely not. Yeah, 21 years, you got. But you do it. They got to pay me a lot of money. I need a lot of money. How much is a lot of money? Would you guys do it? How much. How much would you guys do it for?

[Eddie Judge]

I, I. You know, while you're asking that question, I was thinking, I think now that I'm in my 50s, I think a lot. I think I'm a lot smarter. But I would say that when I was younger, knowing myself, I wouldn't do it. But the smart thing would have been to do it then, because then you'll have a lot of money to get ahead of life, right? So 2 million, 3 million. I don't know.

[Joe Gorga]

No, that's not enough. That's not enough.

[Eddie Judge]

When I was young, right? Today, it would be like a billion dollars, you know, I need a billion dollars. Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

You love her, boy?

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, I love her.

[Joe Gorga]

He's in love with her. Tamra got you hooked?

[Eddie Judge]

Totally hooked.

[Joe Gorga]

Oh, these days. These days, it's crazy. Life is so expensive. Things are changing, right? So, you know, you got maybe 10 million.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah, that's your number.

[Edwin Arroyave]

10. Okay.

[Joe Gorga]

Oh, you want to know my number?

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

2000. No.

[Eddie Judge]

Gas money. Give me some gas, man. I'm good.

[Joe Gorga]

No, I'd have to be some good numbers, you know? I don't know. I mean, you know, but that's what. Not what I do it. Absolutely not. You know, I love my wife. We have children. And all that together. But that's when we were doing a wife swap. We thought she was going to that billionaire. So think about that as a man. Yeah, right.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

Because I was going to get his wife. I'm not a billionaire. We thought there was going to be private planes, jets, she's jumping on helicopters, going there and I'm sitting here. So. Yeah, it was. It was.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You know, the flip side of that is billionaires typically have hot wives, I would think, right?

[Joe Gorga]

Green.

[Eddie Judge]

Yes. Yes. And their hot wives are usually with them for their money, not because they love them.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's true.

[Joe Gorga]

And billionaires are always looking for the next thing. You know that.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Joe Gorga]

It's the fight.

[Eddie Judge]

And.

[Joe Gorga]

And can I get it? And can I get that I got all this money. So guys like us, we're more. We're more good, we're faithful, we're loyal.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah. We're about love. I mean, love is important for us. Yeah.

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[Podcast Host]

10 athletes will face the toughest job.

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Interview in fitness that will push past.

[Joe Gorga]

Physical and mental breaking points.

[Commercial Announcer]

You are the fittest of the fit.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Only one of you will leave here.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Eddie Judge]

This is where mindset comes in.

[Joe Gorga]

Someone will be eliminated.

[Podcast Host]

Pressure is coming down.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Eddie Judge]

I was going to go back a little bit. Going back to the security thing. You had security at home or she had security with her? Did you both have security and what kind of security did you have?

[Joe Gorga]

So the first day we're filming and we're just about wrapped. You know, cameras are like, all right, it's a wrap. It's 11 o' clock at night and some big dude walks in. He's about 7 foot 2. He goes, I'm security. He goes, yeah, security. I go, for what? He goes, I was hired for security. I go, oh, that's my wife set the security up. So I go. I said, dude, you can go home.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

I go, buddy, you can go home. He goes, no, no, no. He goes, I gotta. He goes, I'm contracted. So I got. So he goes and sleeps in the basement. The guy was so big. So my wife had security, you know, at their house we had secure. Everybody had security because, you know, it's fair nation. So if one person asks for it, everybody else has to have security.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

So we had security for no reason for no. She was more like, listen, I'm going to sleep at some stranger's house. She didn't know what could happen.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

To her and I think, I think she's just super jealous.

[Eddie Judge]

She wanted, she wanted to protect you.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, that's what I. What am I gonna do? I'm Joe Gorgo. Where the hell or what? I can't do anything, you know, watched everywhere I go.

[Eddie Judge]

Joe, you are known for handing everybody in the party, shots after shots after shots of alcohol. So you know how to start a party.

[Joe Gorga]

I could party, but then I, you know, I go home like a good little boy.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah. And when you go home, there's trouble there. So if you, let's say you go home after having those party sessions and you have a tent waiting for you at home, what do you think Melissa's gonna think?

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, I know, but I, you know.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So is it like, is it like Big brother? So after 11 o', clock, everybody stops filming, but are the cameras still on after?

[Joe Gorga]

Yes.

[Eddie Judge]

Really?

[Joe Gorga]

24 hours listening to everywhere. Every little crack of the house has a camera. And they work wise.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Do you just not work? Because I'm sure there's some things about work that you just keep private that you have to keep private. Question.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So do you just.

[Joe Gorga]

I worked.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Okay. So you're like, I listen to. Listen to my entire life.

[Joe Gorga]

Listen to whatever you want to listen to.

[Eddie Judge]

Wow.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eddie Judge]

Now I know your daughter's off to college and you have the two boys still at home, right?

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah.

[Eddie Judge]

How did you, how did you present it to them?

[Joe Gorga]

Listen, the boys, you know, you got teenage boys, they're like, what the hell? You know, they're not into filming, they're not into this.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

You know, they just want to go do their thing, play their sports. So I mean, they're all right. At first they fought it. They thought, they're like, I'm not doing it, I'm not doing it. You know, Damn. They want to know part of it. Like if they're the type of kids, if you take a picture of them, you put, you post a video on social media, they get mad, take it down, you know, because they're friends, they bust their balls.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

Because their parents on a reality show, so when it goes out, it goes to so many people, so they get, they get their balls bust. I said, listen, I got. You gotta have confidence, man.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah, chill.

[Joe Gorga]

You got. Who cares what they say, you know? Yeah, but they were, they were totally not into it, but. And I said, oh, yeah. I go, you better doing it. You're doing it. And you're. You. Because I said, you, you like that car I bought you? You like all that you're doing?

[Eddie Judge]

You Got leverage.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So knowing who they're so knowing who their dad is, obviously a great entrepreneur. Are they like, how's their negotiation skills? Are they like, all right, I'll do this, dad, but I need a little money if you're. If I'm going to be doing this.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah. I don't give them anything. I don't give them any money. They gotta work just like I work. They gott.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's what I'm saying. But they're filming. If they do, they do. They come to you and say, all right, dad, I'm gonna film, but you got to give me some of this money.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, they try, but they get. They get everything they got. They got that, you know, what is that? E Pay? Whatever.

[Eddie Judge]

Apple Pay.

[Joe Gorga]

Apple pay. They got Apple pay. Do whatever they want. I mean, they got the life, right? How about when we were growing up, did we have Apple pay? No. Hell no. We didn't have anything. I think that's the worst thing you could possibly do. You know, I do it because all their friends have it. Yeah, I just started putting a limit on it now.

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, good. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

I mean, they don't get out of control. My boys eat a lot. They eat a lot. Constantly buying food. But the craziest thing is when they take themselves out, like their friends, they all go to a nice restaurant. They're like, drive to New York City. I go, who know what you think you are? No, that's a problem.

[Eddie Judge]

Now. It's not a problem, though. If I know you put them to work, I know they got your worth ethic. So I. It's. It's not hard to justify. If they are really good boys and they're just busting their ass like you did, and you see the potential in them and you're like, you know what? I'm gonna reward you. But if they're just taking advantage of it and not really doing anything and not really, you know, going anywhere in life, that's a problem.

[Joe Gorga]

Right, Right. Yeah. I buy my kids. I give them. I almost give them everything. Because they're good kids.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

Respectful. No matter where I go, teachers, coaches come up to me, they said, you have the most respectful, you know, kids. They always. I've not. Not one. Multiple people. Yeah, Constantly. So it makes me feel good. They work hard. Their job is their sports. They all played. They all played three different sports. All my kids, that was their job. I didn't want them to really work. I said, your job is to play sports, because that is a job. You have to listen to a Coach, you have to have responsibility, you have to be there at a certain time and it's all about respect and it teaches you the lesson. So I wanted them to enjoy school, high school to a certain level, and then once high school's done, they're going to college, you're going to college. If you're not going to college, coming to work.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So by the way, not to change the subject, but I just learned about this thing called sex, sextortion that I guess is happening a lot to teenage boys where, I mean, think about this is the different in the difference in times where we're at today versus when we grew up, right?

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So now there's girls sending you a pic of their boobs, whatever they want to send you. And of course, imagine being a 15, 16 year old getting that. And then the girl says, hey, well send me a pic back. But you're thinking it's a girl, but in reality it's some guy that's not going to extort you for money, but then says, hey, now that you send me this pic, I'm gonna, if you don't send me X amount of money, I'm gonna send this out to everyone you know, and they pretty much know who your friends are already. And most of the times they're targeting athletes and they're targeting people that are affluent because they have access to money. But I just thought like how crazy that would be. I mean, how crazy that is right? When we grew up, I mean, somebody sent me something that it's very easy to say, hey, I'm going to send you something back as being, you know, male. But yeah, not to change the subject, but it just reminded me of that, teenage boys, athletes.

[Eddie Judge]

And you know, I think that's also called catfishing because when these social media first came to market, I had a lot of those sent, you know, boob shots, naked shots and, and they were asking for pictures of me. I'm like, I'm not stupid. I'm gonna send you pictures of me.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, I know, but imagine young 13, 12 year old boys. I had to have a talk with my son about it. I was like, hey, good, if, if anyone ever tries to ask you for a picture and it seems like it's a girl, do not send anything. This is what's probably happening, right?

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, my boys, my boys are hip to that. They're very, they're, they're, they're on top of the game. They, they already know. They're like, oh, look at this thing. They're, they're very how do I say it, man? They're just very chill. They're very cool. They're. They're so, like, respectful, but they're boys, you know what I mean?

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

They're nice. They're nice. Like, I was a little bit more tougher, meaning they're very tough. But I was more like, you know, but they're very, like, chill and, you know, I, I don't know. I did, I did a great job with them. I really did.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Job.

[Joe Gorga]

That's good, man. I'm so, you know, I'm proud of them. I. And I always say to them, I said, I always say I'm proud of you guys. I'm proud of, you know, because you guys, you make me happy, you know? Keep doing what you're doing.

[Eddie Judge]

So getting back to the show, how long were you guys separated? How long did you shoot the show for?

[Joe Gorga]

Oh, four days. That's it. Four.

[Eddie Judge]

Four days.

[Joe Gorga]

Four days? Yeah.

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, that's not long enough.

[Joe Gorga]

Not long. Not long.

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah. But four days is, you know, if you think about it, four days, I mean, for me, kind of like flew by. I was, I was all right because I was with filming. I was home.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

I'm home in my own house with my kids. She had to leave.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

Going to someone else's home, sleeping someone else's bed, you know, so it was harder for her where I was. It was easy for me.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So aside from being vegan, what was the first rule that she tried implementing that you didn't agree with?

[Joe Gorga]

Her major rule was that she spent a lot of time with me. And that's a lot of time.

[Eddie Judge]

Okay.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't, you know, I. In my house, I leave at 4:35 in the morning. I go to work.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

I don't get home till, you know, seven, eight o'. Clock, Sometimes a little later, sometimes a little earlier. But I'm gone all day and I'm working, you know, I'm not, you know, I want my wife on top of me, next to me in a truck, in a car, and I'm meetings, you know.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So she did that.

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So she'd go to the gym with you too?

[Joe Gorga]

She goes. She does everything with her.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

She came to the gym? Yes. I go, I'm going to the gym. She goes, well, me too.

[Eddie Judge]

Wow.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Did you give her a good workout?

[Joe Gorga]

She starts getting her gym stuff.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Did you give her a good workout? Did you make her throw up?

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, we did some. I think we did something. Oh, we followed my daughter that day. We kind of did some Pilates or something. I don't even know. Something I don't do, you know?

[Eddie Judge]

Wait, your daughter was filmed too?

[Joe Gorga]

Oh, yeah, my daughter came home from school.

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, how did she do?

[Joe Gorga]

Great.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah, great.

[Joe Gorga]

It's so she. Which was.

[Eddie Judge]

Did she take on Melissa's role while she was gone? Like, dad, you're gonn listen to me.

[Joe Gorga]

I mean, she was awesome. She kind of took over the household. Yes. They're cleaning and organizing and I tell you, man, she's, she's, she really impressed me. I really was so impressed.

[Eddie Judge]

Mentioning organizing, I understand that there was some level of disorganization from the lady that stayed with you. What was her name? Michelle.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Michelle.

[Joe Gorga]

Michelle.

[Eddie Judge]

Michelle. So she was a little bit disorganized compared to your wife?

[Joe Gorga]

Well, every. Yeah, a lot of people are disorganized compared to Melissa. Melissa's crazy ocd.

[Eddie Judge]

Give us an example of what, what she did that was so disorganized.

[Joe Gorga]

Who can you.

[Eddie Judge]

Who? Michelle.

[Joe Gorga]

Michelle?

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

You know, well, I'm used to everything so clean and neat and as soon as you put the cup down, you turn around, it's gone. Finish your drink, you're eating, you got half it.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

You have to go to the bathroom, you come back, food's gone. I'm not done. I'm not gone.

[Eddie Judge]

I'm very much looking forward to watching the show. Now, I do know that there's two other housewives. One of the housewives that I, I know from our franchise that did it, and she was telling us a little bit about it, so it's going to be interesting to watch. I'm really excited to watch it.

[Joe Gorga]

Oh, it's going to be great. And you know what's great is that, you know, I became friendly with her now. We, we, we were, we love each other with her and her husband. They're great people. So I brought.

[Eddie Judge]

Were they, were they coming?

[Joe Gorga]

Georgia. Atlanta.

[Commercial Announcer]

Georgia.

[Eddie Judge]

Georgia. Okay.

[Joe Gorga]

Oh, I don't know. Can I say that?

[Eddie Judge]

I think so, yeah, if you can say that.

[Joe Gorga]

I don't know. I don't, I don't think I can say that yet.

[Eddie Judge]

But I, I saw some of the clips and I think it was one of the housewives from Utah. She went to an actual farm.

[Joe Gorga]

She went to a farm? Yeah. She had a rough there. Yes.

[Eddie Judge]

Wow. So.

[Edwin Arroyave]

So by the end of the week or by the time you finished filming, did you appreciate Melissa a little more?

[Joe Gorga]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah. How could you not? Yeah, I did.

[Joe Gorga]

Listen, I appreciate her 100 and there's some things that you like. You kind of appreciate the other one in a way. You're like, oh, wow.

[Eddie Judge]

Give me an example. That's a good point. Give us an example, though, because they're.

[Joe Gorga]

There's some different things. And you're like, wow, yeah, no, you're gonna have to watch the show, and.

[Eddie Judge]

Then you're gonna realize.

[Joe Gorga]

No, you're gonna.

[Eddie Judge]

You're gonna realize.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You're gonna get him in trouble. Eddie, what are you doing?

[Joe Gorga]

I'm already in trouble. I always get in trouble. Problem.

[Eddie Judge]

It's always our fault. It's always our fault. Gotta know this.

[Edwin Arroyave]

What surprised you the most about the experience?

[Joe Gorga]

Surprised me the most? Happy? Everything. The mo. A lot of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna see it. It was. It was fun. You know, I make everything fun. And she was. She was. She was very. She was cool. She was chill. So it wasn't like, you know, she was mean or none of that.

[Eddie Judge]

And that's cool.

[Joe Gorga]

Are you guys going to Bravo Con? Because I'm. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Joe, you'd have to sneak me in now, but we'll see. Maybe you can sneak me in.

[Joe Gorga]

You definitely come, because I invited her. I'm doing. I'm doing a comedy show. I'm doing three nights at Jimmy Kimmel's comedy club.

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, cool.

[Joe Gorga]

So I invited her. I said, you come. You come. You and your husband, you come to the show. They're gonna come to one of my shows.

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, awesome.

[Joe Gorga]

You guys should come, too. You got to give you tickets. Come.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah, for sure. I'd love.

[Joe Gorga]

Edwin. You only live.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I live pretty close.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eddie Judge]

Come on, Edwin. Let's make it a. Let's make it a date. Yeah, we'll record something while we're out.

[Joe Gorga]

There, then we'll do dinner. Yeah, we'll do it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

You know what?

[Edwin Arroyave]

We'll record something while we're out there. For sure.

[Joe Gorga]

Well, we'll do what you come to my show to do. Great. The Great.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I've been wanting to watch your show. I've been doing great things about it, so.

[Eddie Judge]

Frank told us about it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah, Frank told us about it. Have you let him. Have you open? Have you let him be the bat? The. He was saying that he only. He only is allowed to open.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You allowed him to close out yet?

[Joe Gorga]

No.

[Edwin Arroyave]

No. Is that ever going to happen? Are you finally going to allow him to close out?

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, I let him close. I let him close. You're right. Maybe I should do that. Maybe I should have him open up a little.

[Edwin Arroyave]

I think that might be A dream of him. A dream of his. To be able to close.

[Joe Gorga]

You'll be shocked. He's good. He's good. You've gotta remember he was an attorney used to speaking very well.

[Eddie Judge]

Yes.

[Joe Gorga]

In front of an audience, the jury. That is that. And, and he's, you know, I had to sit there and teach him a lot of, you know, what I know. And he's good. He just busts my balls the whole time. He really does. He roasts me the whole time.

[Eddie Judge]

That's hilarious.

[Commercial Announcer]

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Don'T know about you guys but I love to buy gifts. I love it so much. I love it so much more than getting gifts. But the one one thing that I do love, especially when it comes to my daughter is getting matching things. I know it's such a cliche, but I love it so much so I have the perfect brand for you. Pandora Jewelry can make their holiday unforgettable with the gift that says it all from Pandora Jewelry. A gift that tells a story and shows you know theirs that doesn't just sparkle but speaks. From new festive charms to forever rings and personal engravings, this season, give a gift that's perfectly theirs. Whether you're shopping for a shiny surprise for your significant other, matching bracelets to celebrate your friendship, or a heartfelt gift for a family member, say more this holiday season with Pandora. Shop [e-mail] or visit your closest Pandora store.

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[Eddie Judge]

If Bravo allowed you to wife swap with somebody you knew on the franchise, like any. Any other franchise, what housewives couple would you swap?

[Joe Gorga]

Wow.

[Eddie Judge]

Excluding us, because, you know, we're. We're actually interviewing you.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, I mean, I. I was. I was really gonna say you.

[Commercial Announcer]

Cool.

[Joe Gorga]

Let me see.

[Eddie Judge]

And nobody from your show also, right. It has to be some other show.

[Joe Gorga]

Have to be from another show, right?

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah. Do you watch them? Do you watch any of the other shows?

[Joe Gorga]

Once in a blue. Yeah, blue. I haven't been really, you know, here and there. If I'm sitting down, Melissa's watching the show. I'll jump in and. Yeah, let me think about that. I would like to swap.

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's narrow. To Beverly Hills. Who would you do it with in Beverly Hills?

[Joe Gorga]

Oh, well, I was gonna say Erica, but she's got no man, so I would. Do you know most of them?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, that's true. That's true.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah. None of them. Is anyone married. I don't know.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You know what? I think you're right. I don't think. I don't think there's. I think no one's married anymore.

[Joe Gorga]

No one's married.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Beverly Hills curse.

[Eddie Judge]

Oh, man, I wanted a housewife curse, man.

[Joe Gorga]

I just want to go. Maybe I'll go to Salt Lake City.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

I'd rather been to Dubai because I want to go to Dubai.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Eddie Judge]

That's a good one.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah. No, I don't know any. I know them. I know I've met them, obviously, but I don't really know them. Yeah, I know you guys, you know, so.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

But I don't But I like to go to Dubai. You guys ever been to Dubai?

[Eddie Judge]

I have. I. I went to go to, I think, 2008, when the economy was shit and all their buildings were half built and the economy of just stopped. And I went on a. It was an EO event, and it was. It was like, the opportunity. It was American Airlines. No, British Airlines, was flying a bunch of entrepreneurs from all over the world to London to do a presentation by the CEO. And then from there, you can choose anywhere you wanted to go. So I chose Dubai because that's the only time I would get to go. And it was a pretty cool experience. I wouldn't want to go back unless I had billions of dollars, because you need money there, like, to do anything. And it's impressive. It's impressive to see what they've done with that desert. It really is something to see. I would recommend it.

[Joe Gorga]

Definitely want to check it out.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Dubai, I would say Caroline and. And swap with. She lives.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

She seems like she lives a pretty good life with Sergio.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

And Sergio's traveling all over the damn place, and Serge is pretty cool.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

Hey, they got that money. They got that Cha Ching.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

I. Dubai money. Edwin, what are you doing? Are you dating anybody? Edwin?

[Edwin Arroyave]

I am dating someone, yes.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

How long? You're serious?

[Edwin Arroyave]

That's pretty serious.

[Joe Gorga]

Wow. Okay.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. It's pretty serious.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

It's good, man.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Joe Gorga]

Bring it. Bring her to Vegas. Bravo. Con.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Maybe. Maybe I will take her to Vegas. I was actually thinking about that.

[Joe Gorga]

Put you in the front row at the show.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Okay, Front row. You got me. Now you're speaking my language.

[Joe Gorga]

Front row.

[Eddie Judge]

So he's gonna hackle us. You know he's gonna hackle us.

[Joe Gorga]

You guys gotta come. It's fun. It's fun.

[Eddie Judge]

I want to go. Joe, count me in, because you're Peter.

[Joe Gorga]

And we've got to get him.

[Commercial Announcer]

You.

[Joe Gorga]

You just drive in. What are you, three hours away?

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah, Yeah. I actually ride my Harley in, so it's gonna be fun.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah, but Edward, too, you're three hours away.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Edwin Arroyave]

45 minutes on a plane.

[Eddie Judge]

45 minutes on a plane. Super easy. There's a flight every hour out of John Wayne.

[Joe Gorga]

It's unbelievable.

[Edwin Arroyave]

It's great.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah. That's nice. All right.

[Joe Gorga]

All right, man. You guys.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Well, Yeah, I heard something about you and Teresa talking again. Oh, is that just one of, like, a. One of those fake rumors or fake news, or is that actually starting to happen?

[Joe Gorga]

No, she did text me. She. She reached out, you know.

[Eddie Judge]

Awesome.

[Joe Gorga]

And she would like to sit down and meet. So, you know, I, I am the guy who. I am. I'm a good brother. You know, I've never wanted to argue with her ever. It was not my intentions. So, you know, I hear her out. I, you know, I like to hear her out, see what she has to say. Because, you know, but if. If I sit down with her and I hear out, it has to be a lot of. A lot of. Has to be very humble.

[Eddie Judge]

Right?

[Joe Gorga]

Has to come from a humble place. It has to be real. It has to be, you know, I've made mistakes and, and we can move forward. If not think.

[Eddie Judge]

You think she's doing it so that she can get back on the show or to, you know, solidify that position on the show.

[Joe Gorga]

You know, Eddie, I don't know, man. I mean, listen, we're men, right?

[Eddie Judge]

Right? We.

[Joe Gorga]

We have been men our whole lives. And a man is, you know, I support my wife, I support my children, I've supported my parents, I support my siblings. Right. I support everybody. I can't. I'm not the guy that. I'm not the guy that's going to turn his back on anyone no matter what they did to me, you know, because, I mean, you know, we have to be examples for people because, right. Look at this society. Like, look at this war that's going on in life. What are we going to. If. If no one made up, there'd be no ceasefire, ever. You have to. Have to make up, you have to move on or everybody would be dead.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

This nonsense of, of arguing and fighting for what? For what? For, for, you know, there's no reasons. Listen, ratings, the ratings. There's two different type of people. I'm very, I'm really, I'm chill, I'm relaxed. You could hurt me. As long as you apologize to me, I accept it. I'm. Yeah, kind of a pushover. I'll be honest. I got a good heart, you know, and I just don't. I rather not argue or hold a grudge the rest of my life for what? You know, so we'll see. We'll see.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You know, you got great character with that, Joe. Yeah, good character with that. So, yeah, way to be an example on that. Wish you the best.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah. What am I gonna do? You know, so hopefully, you know, I'm. I'm here to help if I can help her. We have to help. We have to help and do what we do as who we are, as good people. Right. Right. Yeah, always. It's what we do. So it's hard to turn you back.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You know, one of my favorite sayings is your character will be revealed under pressure.

[Eddie Judge]

Yes.

[Edwin Arroyave]

You know, and it's a good example of you showing humility there, Joe, and. And just even taking that text and actually going to do something about it. So. That's great to hear.

[Joe Gorga]

Yeah. It took me a minute. It took me a minute. I'll be honest here. And I wasn't. I'm not the type that. I said, like, I never want to speak ever again. Because I've always said, well, like, you know, okay, I mean, trust me, she's done some horrific things to me, and I've, you know, and I. But it's okay. It's okay. We forgive. We.

[Eddie Judge]

How.

[Joe Gorga]

As long as it's how they do it, you know?

[Eddie Judge]

Right. How did Melissa take it?

[Joe Gorga]

Listen, you got, you know, she. She's taking her. Melissa has a heart of gold. When I met her, she comes from a family that is. The love is insane. You know, they love each other, respect each other. They. They bring each other up. So she. She has forgiven my sister so many times and in a good way. And that's why I respect. About her. So, you know, she's. She listens to me. She loves me, she loves our family. So. All about, you know, she's not here to teach our children to hate.

[Eddie Judge]

Right.

[Joe Gorga]

Are you. We know our kids to this day, you know, we never say anything bad ever. You know, that's your aunt. You know, go say hi. Go see her. Go do whatever. You see her. Always nice things. Because we don't want to raise our children like that. What kind of parents will we be to put them in our argument?

[Edwin Arroyave]

Right, Right, right.

[Joe Gorga]

It's our argument, you know, so.

[Eddie Judge]

Well, it's like teaching your kids to be prejudice, you know, that's just a terrible thing to do.

[Joe Gorga]

Can't do that. You know, it's. You know, listen, unfortunately, it has happened to me, but it's okay. I'm bigger.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

I'm stronger. I'm smarter. You know, I got a good heart. I got to worry about me being happy in life. Right, Exactly. In life. You know, you. Peace with everybody. I've always. I was a kid when I grew up. I had friends everywhere. No matter what, everybody was my friend.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

If. If. If the. If the kids. The bullies picked on the other kids, I protected those kids.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

You know, always. Always took care of bullies. You know, I. I was always with the other kids. I protected them.

[Eddie Judge]

Yeah.

[Joe Gorga]

You know, so that's how you got to be in life.

[Eddie Judge]

I love it.

[Edwin Arroyave]

Joe, as usual, entertaining man. So engaging. I again I love interviewing you man. You. You make it so easy for us.

[Joe Gorga]

Thanks.

[Eddie Judge]

Super fun.

[Joe Gorga]

You guys are the best.

[Eddie Judge]

Thank you again.

[Joe Gorga]

See you on 11-14-15.

[Eddie Judge]

I will be there.

[Edwin Arroyave]

All right.

[Eddie Judge]

All right brother. Have a good night.

[Edwin Arroyave]

We'll see you soon.

[Joe Gorga]

Respect. All right.

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