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Emily Tish Sussman
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Emily Tish Sussman
Hi, it's Emily Tish Sussman, host of the podcast. She Pivots. In honor of Mother's Day, we have some very special guests. I'm Elaine Welteroth.
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Caitlin Murray
And I'm Caitlin Murray.
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Emily Tish Sussman
Both women pivoted out of their careers after having their kids, proving that motherhood is just another chapter in our journey, not the end. We come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to she pivots on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Eds with Eddie Judge and Edwin Arroyave.
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Eddie Judge
All right, welcome to another podcast of the Eds. My name is Eddie Judge.
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Edwin Arroyave
My co host and my name is Edwin Ariave.
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Eddie Judge
And we have a special guest today that shares the same first name as I, Eddie Osefo. Eddie Oseffo is married to Real Housewives of Potomac star since 2011 and they share three kids. Wendy joined the Bravo universe in 2020 and is a current cast member of the show. I I hear you guys are just Starting to film this next season.
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Eddie Osefo
Just kicking off. Yep.
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Eddie Judge
Awesome. Well, welcome, Eddie. We're really excited to get to know you.
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Eddie Osefo
Thanks for having me, guys. It's a pleasure to be in a room for the Eddies, you know. So, yeah, the universe has aligned properly, so I'm glad. Glad to be here.
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Eddie Judge
Awesome. So let's get to know you, Eddie. There's so many things I want to ask you. There's so many things we have in common, too. The first and foremost is we're on a housewife show together, essentially. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Where did you grow up, Eddie?
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Eddie Osefo
Sure. So a little background on me. I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland. I have four siblings. I went to school locally. University of Maryland, College Park. Computer engineering, actually. I met my wife while we were in high school. We were just friends. Her family had moved to the area, so I've known her actually since we were about 17 years old. We went away to college, remained friends, stayed in touch, but then upon graduating from college, she went off to temple. I stayed local at University of Maryland, College Park. We got together after we graduated. And so that's kind of where our love story began in the D.C. metro area, together, getting married in 2011. Yeah. And that's kind of like where our love story began.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, that sounds great. Tell us a little bit about what it was like growing up as a kid. You know, those are the details that are left out when we really get to know you. You have siblings?
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah, So I have four siblings. I'm the second oldest. I have an older sister. I was two years older, younger brother, two years younger than me, and then sister who was two years younger than him. And then we have our junior youngest sister who is four years younger than my. My youngest sister. So we're all two years apart, except for my youngest sister. And so, yeah, just growing up in Maryland, you know, we're the. My parents were immigrant parents from Nigeria. They came here, you know, raised us as best they could. A lot of my siblings, you know, they use education as a tool to advance in life, and so that's why they placed a heavy emphasis on education. So, you know, in our household, it was either you're going to be a doctor, lawyer, or an engineer. And so it kind of got the best of all worlds. And my older sister's a doctor. I'm a lawyer. My younger brother's a computer engineer. And then my two younger sisters are doctors. So they kind of like, really pushed education in our household, and we kind of had to follow through. Otherwise, we'd be failures if we didn't follow. Follow through on that. Ask for my parents. But, I mean, it was. It was a good. It was a good childhood. You know, I had fun. Had a lot of fun. Growing up. I played a lot of sports. You know, I was. I would say I'm a smart jock, you know. Cause I play, you know, football, basketball, baseball. But also, you know, excelled in the classroom. So I wasn't the jock jock. But, you know, I try to balance it. Popular kid. A lot of kids, you know, were friends with me. You know, I smiled a lot growing up, so it was easy to attract friends and just, you know, build that community. So it was. It was good. It was good growing up, you know, in our neighborhood.
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Eddie Judge
It sounds like the, you know, atypical American dream. Immigrant parents coming here and then raising amazing children and becoming really good citizens and providing, you know, value to the American dream. I love it. I did notice you are. You have two degrees, you're a lawyer, and you do something else.
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah. So it's funny because I. My undergrad was in engineering, computer engineering. But then I went to law school, so I got my jd Then it was a dual program, so I got my J.D. mBA, but then I went back to law school to get an LLM. So I got an LLM focused in state and local tax. And that's kind of where I began my career in state and local tax practice. So I've done that for probably the past 13, 14 years. But then most recently, I kind of pivoted to. It's funny because you don't know what Housewives will do to you until Housewives does something to you. But it was like. I forget what season it was, but one of the women on the show were coining me Happy Eddie because I smiled at her. So she took it as, like, a reference that I tried to hit on her. And then I was smiling. And the name kind of took a life of its own and went viral online. People were like, oh, this woman is crazy. So now you can't smile at someone, otherwise you're hitting on them and trying to be nefarious in your actions. So, you know, I took that name that was Happy Yeti, and Maryland went legal in terms of recreational use for marijuana. So I started a Cannabis brand in 2023, and I launched a cannabis brand in Maryland. It's been doing really well. Took the name Happy Yeti, ran with it. I have a lot of products in the market, and most recently, you know, we're expanding into the new Jersey market and the Missouri market. So I kind of turned those lemons that happened as a result of housewives and turn it into lemonade and kind of made, you know, the entrepreneurial business push.
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Edwin Arroyave
Well, I love the name Happy Eddie. I think, you know, I tell my sales guys all the time, even people that think they're not salespeople. I'm like, if you could just smile when you spe think, you just automatically have this charisma that comes out where people, at the end of the day, people like you and trust you, they're going to want to do business with you. And you'd be, you'd be amazed what a smile can do. And from the get go from, even though I didn't know you prior to you coming on the show, immediately when you came in, you just had this big old smile on your face and I'm like, man, I like this guy. I can't wait to interview him and. But anyway, so I love the name and how you're an all around type of guy. You mentioned, you know, you were a smart, you know, jock and, you know, you played a lot of sports. How do you contribute, you know, your success in business as an entrepreneur, but also in school? How did sports sort of get you ready for that?
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah, I think sports is actually a key component of, you know, any kind of, I guess, thing you want to do in life because it teaches you when you face adversity, when you lose, you can come back and have a good game, you know, if you will, you can learn from your mistakes and then apply them on your next, your next project. And I think in business, you know, you're gonna hit pitfalls, you're gonna hit obstacles, you're gonna hit hurdles. And it's all about how you react to those hurdles. It's not about how you dwell in the mistakes that you made, but about how you take that as a learning lesson and you apply it to your next, you know, project. And I think I've used that in sports. Just, you know, you're not gonna win every game. So just losing. What did I do wrong? Okay, What I do wrong? Let's fix it for the next game. And so applying that in the business world, it's just like it was kind of, you know, you didn't really have to think about it, you just have to do it. And I think that's what's been very advantageous and helpful in the business realm because you're able to just apply your learnings and say, all right, I'm not going to go with this type of vendor, because I know what happened last time. Let's do this due diligence first. And, you know, things like that, you apply going forward.
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Edwin Arroyave
Yeah. And then with the. Obviously very smart. You got all these degrees. And typically, some people that go that route get stuck working in the corporate world. What finally made you say, you know what? I'm going to try this entrepreneur thing.
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Eddie Osefo
It's funny because, you know, I thought, you know, in my small world, I thought, you know, the corporate ladder was the way to go. That was the, you know, you just work your way up the corporate ladder. You'll find happiness once you get to the top.
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Eddie Judge
And.
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Eddie Osefo
And then once you get to the top, you really realize, like, no, it's just more ladders to climb. You know what I mean? It's not really like you're going to get to the top. And so I think at that point, you know, social media kind of took a life of its own, and you start seeing people really living life and really enjoying life, and they weren't necessarily doing the traditional jobs and careers that you would imagine. I think that kind of opened my eyes to what else is out there. You know, can. You could apply, you know, I can go solo practitioner and, you know, be an attorney, but there's also other entrepreneurial pursuits that you could do. And I kind of took that baton and I ran with it and I said, okay, what else can I do in the realm of entrepreneurship that I like to do that I could achieve, you know, leverage my, you know, learnings and leverage my career and what I've done and really succeed in that. And I think that, you know, in the cannabis industry, I never thought I would be in the cannabis industry first and foremost. It just kind of like, it was an opportunity that I saw it opening and I kind of ran with it. But I think I was able to leverage that legal background and. And apply it to the cannabis industry.
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Edwin Arroyave
I'm curious what your parents said, right? You're either a doctor, engineer, or lawyer, and here you are saying, I'm gonna go sell cannabis. How did they take it?
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah, you know, like I said, they were immigrant parents. So they really, no matter how much you frame it, the conversation still, you're selling weed, you know, you're selling weed, and people were locked up for selling weed. I don't know what you're talking about. So I think it's a work in progress. It's a lot of massaging that goes on, but it's really. I think the more and more they see it in the public's realm, the more and more they understand that it's legal, it's a business as an industry, it's a growing industry. It's like pharmaceutical drugs, you know, it's like an industry within the, you know, society that is growing and it's that taking a life of its own. And so I think the more and more they see it as a legal business, the more they're like, okay, he's just doing business and that's just part of the business that he's doing. So I think maybe more accepting of it.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, sure, as long as we don't use our own supply.
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Eddie Osefo
There you go. Well, it's legal, so you know, you get hired or abuse it. There you go. There you go.
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Eddie Judge
So let me ask, I forgot to ask earlier, are you still practicing law part time at all or have you given that up?
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Eddie Osefo
So I'm still legally licensed to practice law, but I've done more consulting. I'd call it more consulting because I'm able to manage my schedule more and take on clients as I have capacity to do that. And so I would say that right now I'm really trying to put full force effort into the entrepreneurship of the cannabis brand and growing that brand as much as I can and getting into a position where it's self sufficient. But then, you know, I'm in a position to now have the freedom to do what I want to do, but definitely don't want to lose that legal training on that legal side. But it does take time and so you can't kind of serve all masters, so you kind of got to pick and choose what you do with your time.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, I'm sure that legal mind has helped you in a lot of the decisions you're making for your new venture.
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Chelsea Handler
This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Connie Britton is here. I think you should encourage your friend to go ahead and not be holding out for any man to have her baby. If she is passionate about becoming a mother and she has her eggs frozen and she has her life together, go for it. She could be waiting another 10 years before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what, 50, Connie, how long have you guys been together?
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Caitlin Murray
Yeah. No, 52.
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Eddie Judge
52.
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Caitlin Murray
I adopted my son as a single mom because I kept thinking, oh, I'm gonna meet the guy. I'm gonna meet the guy. I'm gonna meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did. And I want to change the narrative about single parents and also help to create a community for single parents so that they can not feel alone in it. One of the big things is it's so hard, especially for women to ask for help.
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Chelsea Handler
Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Emily Tish Sussman
Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job or a place or a relationship or. Join me, Emily Tish Sussman over on she Pivots, where I explore the inspiring pivots of women, dig deeper into the personal reasons behind them, and leave you with the inspiration you need to make your next pivot. In honor of Mother's Day, we have some very special guests. I'm Elaine Welteroth.
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Caitlin Murray
And I'm Caitlin Murray.
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Emily Tish Sussman
Both women pivoted out of Their careers after having their kids, proving that motherhood is just another chapter in our journey, not the end. Like, it's kind of like, will you have more babies? Yes. Will I always be me? Yeah. And will I continue growing? Yes.
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Caitlin Murray
Because I was really in the trenches and I knew my worth and my value as a mom.
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Emily Tish Sussman
Come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to she pivots on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Edwin Arroyave
How did you and your wife reconnect, by the way?
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Eddie Osefo
So it's funny because we. So we went away to school, but we always stayed in touch through, you know, instant messenger. So we stayed in touch and I actually, I joined. Well, she joined her sorority first, and so then I was joining a fraternity in Maryland, and I invited her to our introduction show and I said, hey, you should come down. You know, your friends, your sorority sisters will be here. You should come. And so she ended up not making it to that show, but she ended up making it to other events that I had for my fraternity. And that's kind of like where we. I wouldn't say we fell apart, but we were, you know, we're in different schools, so we have our own group of friends. But we kind of reconnected when she came to my fraternity's events and then, you know, saw that we shared commonalities, share common friends. And then we kind of got back together, friendship wise. And then afterwards, you know, we kind of tried the romantic, you know, journey. And here we are today.
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Edwin Arroyave
Nice. Who's got more degrees, you or your wife?
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Eddie Osefo
You know, that's a great question if you ask the audience, you know, because she, her first season, she was four degrees, Wendy. Four degrees, Dr. Wendy. We have the same four degrees when you do the math. So it's funny, but she was missed four degrees, Wendy.
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Edwin Arroyave
Now, was that coincidence that if she didn't have the degrees, do you think you would have married? Or was that like, a part of it? Or was that like, ah, you know, I like an. I like a woman that's got an education, that's independent. Did that play into her being the one, or did it really not matter? She could have just not had any degrees and you still would have gone with her.
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah, I think she could have not had any degrees. I still probably would have went with her. I like an ambitious, intelligent woman, but I, I don't really like, honestly, until she started, she said on the show that season, I didn't realize she had that many degrees. Like, I mean, we were just like, you know, serial school, you know, attendees, if you will.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, I think that's a very interesting question, Edwin, because if I was to put myself in that situation, I'd say I'd need a woman that has to be smart in order to have a conversation after, you know, having sex, you know, because that's the number one thing, you know, us men think about. And then after that, what do you do? I'm really happy for you guys that you found each other. And I understand you have three children.
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah. Yeah. So we have a 12 year old, a boy, 10 year old boy, and a 5 year old girl who runs the house.
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Eddie Judge
Oh, and she's got two older brothers and she runs the house.
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah, it's like something that would her.
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Eddie Judge
Are you guys going to instill the same motto of education to be a doctor, lawyer or engineer?
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Eddie Osefo
You know, I don't think so, because, I mean, we know better, so we should definitely do better. We know that there's more out there. You got to pursue happiness. It's not all about going to school. And that may not be what your happiness is. You know, you could be the worst student, but if your parents are pushing school on you, think that's the only way. And so I think that we definitely want to be more open minded, give them more of a sense of the opportunities out in the world. You know, you can be entrepreneur, you could be, you know, you could go to school, you could be a doctor if you want. You could be whatever you want to be. But you have to find out what your passion is and fulfill that and chase that passion, that dream. So I think that's something that I didn't get growing up, but I think that we're definitely going to instill in our kids that, you know, follow your dream, follow your passions, and it'll lead to work that doesn't feel like work.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, I always tell our kids, like, you can do whatever you want. Sometimes they're not doing anything and it's frustrating. But as long as they have a foundation of some sort of education, some sort of subject, they can go left or right. I've. I've known a lot of people who've had, you know, an education in botany and opened up restaurants and even lawyers who got their degree and ended up practicing or quitting the practice of law and doing something in business in general. So I think we are, if we see the opportunity, we can do anything we want. But if you get stuck in that, you know, same regimen, like, I have an engineering degree and that's all I'm going to do. That's where I think eventually you wake up, you know, 40, 50 years later and you realize, I could have done so much more.
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Eddie Osefo
Exactly.
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Edwin Arroyave
Are the kids more into sports right now? Are they more into school right now?
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Eddie Osefo
They are more. Well, it's funny because if they don't do well in school, they can't play sports, but they actually do well in sports, which is. I'm living vicariously through them because, you know, they, they enjoy football, basketball, my daughter is into dance, gymnastics, and so they enjoy sports, but they also do well in school, which I'm happy about. So I'm trying to push sports. You know, I'm trying to really push sports, but they're not, you know, they're kind of waning. They're kind of wanting to play video games more.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, yeah, yeah. During that age, video sports games, that's true.
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Eddie Osefo
NBA, 2K and Maddie. I'm like, that's not the real thing. Go out and touch grass.
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Eddie Judge
Although, you know, I wouldn't knock it too much because it's a big world of online gaming. I don't know how familiar you are with it. I had an entrepreneur friend of mine who was part of that world in our EO group, and he introduced me to that. And it's a huge, huge. It's almost bigger than our real sports game worlds. The E sports, like the video game sports. Are you guys familiar with that?
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah, I've heard about it, yeah.
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Eddie Judge
Oh, it's huge. It's enormous. It's its own world and it's worldwide.
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah.
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Edwin Arroyave
I think anything that makes you compete is good because I haven't met a successful person that's not competitive. If you're not competitive, you're not going to go past your own capacity, you know, so it's why I asked about sports. That's what sports taught me is, is that, you know, to be competitive and if you work hard enough, even though you might not start off on the, you know, at the top, you can, you can very well get there if you, if you have the hard work ethic and, and you're just consistent.
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Eddie Judge
But the other thing that sports teaches you is you win some, you lose some. I think that was Eddie's point earlier. You know, that's, that's a, that's a really good lesson. I think it helps with any level of success at any level of life, from relationships to friends to business, you know, you. You're going to lose some and you're going to have to get back up and try it again.
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah, failure is the best teacher. It really is.
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Edwin Arroyave
So, Eddie, when you first heard about the Housewives, did you know about the show? And I guess that's the first part. And second, were you. Was it an automatic yes or did you, like, have to marinate on it that for a bit?
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Eddie Osefo
You know, it's funny. I feel like I heard about the Housewives, but I. To me, it was one of those things where you could turn it on, turn it off. I wasn't really invested in the Housewives, so kind of when the opportunity presented itself, my wife brought the opportunity. I'm like, oh, you should do it. You know, yolo. You only live once. You know, why not? I wasn't thinking about what it takes to be on the show. I was just thinking about, wow, you get to be on tv, you get to go to fancy events and have fun. You know, I didn't think that someone can really just say whatever the hell they want to say on national TV and that's it. But, yeah, I just thought it was an opportunity, and I thought it was a great opportunity to leverage a platform to go and continue to pursue your dreams. And I didn't think about everything that it entails. And I think over. I think this is our sixth year. I've kind of gotten to a sweet spot where I understand, like, you know, there's no reward without risk. You gotta go through the fire to get to the green pasture. And so anytime I have to talk my wife off the ledge a lot. Cause she's oftentimes ready to go scorching earth and blow the whole establishment up.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah.
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Eddie Osefo
And I'm like, hey, it's a show, you know, everyone's doing their job, you know.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah.
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Edwin Arroyave
Do you feel like you. After five years, do you think you finally have the hang of it? I saw this clip of you being on the. What do you call it? What's the season finale thing called?
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Eddie Osefo
Reunion.
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Edwin Arroyave
The Reunion. And I was. And I honestly thought, man, that's ballsy. I would never go on a reunion. They freaking paid me because it's. There's so much drama that happens. And you were so calm. You were just.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, man.
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Edwin Arroyave
It was like you were made for it. And that's like the hot seat of all hot seats.
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Eddie Osefo
So. Yeah.
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Edwin Arroyave
What was that experience like?
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Eddie Osefo
You know, it's good when you're not actually in the hot seat. Meaning it's not my drama that's being talked about, but it's still. You know, these women, they. They're in a different level different league. And so I can't keep up. And so I really, I don't try to keep up. Like, I try to, you know, simple, do my time and then. And then roll out because they will eat you up and spit you out if you try to get involved in the women drama, you know. So I try to, you know, I really just try to stay out the way. I really try to be pleasant, don't get in the drama, give advice and then go, you know, and go, go, go to my separate corner because you can really get caught up in the women's drama. And then you now, in this day and age, you have not just what you film, but you have social media, you have the blogs, you have the bloggers, you have. You have all these different people weighing in with opinions. And it's like, you know, you lived it, it's your truth. But everyone has their opinion, and people want to believe lies or believe untruths more than they want to believe the truth. So you got to really keep everything in perspective when you own these shows.
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Eddie Judge
It definitely has evolved tremendously from the beginning where I remember they used to have a rule where the women could not even talk outside of filming. They couldn't, you know, have a conversation. They couldn't go to lunch, they couldn't go. Not that they would, but it was really strict about not making it as not or not conversing about what's going on unless the cameras were there. And then as social media came to light and everybody's posting pictures and everything, and then blogging came to light, just like the real world, right? Like, even in business, what I noticed growing up and wrapping my head around the big companies that promote their product is better than B product, right? And they're saying all these horrible things. It happens in politics, you know, one politician putting out this ugly story about another politician sleeping with a dog or something like that, you know, just, can you do that? Why are you doing that? It just seems so dirty. And that's how I kind of seen the show evolve into getting really dirty. What has been some of the things that. Negative things that you've experienced on the show personally?
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Eddie Osefo
I remember one year, I think it was probably the second year, maybe six season, where there was a rumor that was totally made up by the blogs about extramarital affair, about having a baby, about. I think that maybe that was extended. Maybe there was even more. I don't. I don't even recall. But it was all lies. Yeah, and it was all lies that started in the blogs because I think it was one of those things to get attention, to get clicks. And then because it's in the blogs, you know, the women are the women, and they do what they do, so they bring it on the platform. So now it's on the platform. So now the world sees it, and so you kind of relive it over and over again because you film it, then it. Now it runs, and it airs. And so that was probably the toughest season because, like, wait, so they really can say whatever they want to say, and till this day, no one circles back and says, you know what? That was a lie or that was untrue. They just. We just move on. But, you know, the articles and the footage is still last forever. And just having to live through that and just knowing that, you know, I wasn't one of those people that went on social media to try to campaign for, you know, the validity of what I'm saying. I just say, hey, man, you guys are gonna believe what you want to believe. I know what the truth is, and I'm gonna proceed with the truth. But it could have. I could have taken that route, and then I would have just been on every website, every blog, saying, no, this is untrue. This is untrue. And I didn't choose that path. But it's really. It can go. It depends on how you take it. It can really go back, you know, bad for you. Like, you know, I remember at a time, I think HR had called me into a meeting to talk about. Well, we. If. You know, because I was in a position of superiority, if. Is there someone who you've been with at the firm? Because we would need to know that, you know, going forward. And it's like, wow, this is all. There's a woman who just made this stuff up. It's totally lies and fabricated. But I had to have that conversation. And they don't know that when they're doing this online and, you know, on tv. But this is real life. It's not just reality tv. It's really real life.
- [28:25]
Eddie Judge
Yeah.
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Eddie Osefo
So having to deal with that, that was probably the toughest year that year.
- [28:29]
Eddie Judge
I think for me, it's really just been two things that they've been trying to, you know, push on us. And I'm as confident as you, Eddie, where, you know, if you want to believe the lie, believe the lie. If the worst thing you can say is that I'm gay and my marriage is a sham or that my wife and I are getting divorced, if that's the worst thing you can Say I got no reason to go out and defend it. But if you're calling me a criminal and I'm getting investigated by the FBI or I, you know, I hit and run and a DUI or do something really bad and illegal, those are the people that are going on there trying to defend themselves. Like, no, it didn't. It happened this way.
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Eddie Osefo
Right, right, right.
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Eddie Judge
So guilty. It's so obvious, right? Yeah. Yeah.
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Edwin Arroyave
Eddie, I loved what you said earlier in regards to just the girls being at another level. I often tell people, like, you don't understand how witty you have to be to be on this show. Like, how quick the girls are. Like, if you try to get into it, they will e alive. Right. Is there a person on the show that you're like, man, I don't want to mess with that one. Other than your wife, of course.
- [29:39]
Eddie Osefo
Right? Other than my wife, because I got to mess with her on a daily basis, you know, like I said, I mean, they're all. It's. It's weird because I think I. I pride myself on being quick and being quick on my feet. But these women, like, they will wrap you up in your words, and you're like, wait, what was I trying to say? You just want to exit the conversation quickly. So I wouldn't. There's not one that I would want to talk, you know, with or have a verbal dispute with, because they all have it. And I don't, you know, I don't want to test it. I've seen it in action, and I'm like, man, okay. I've actually seen guys try to interact with. With one of the ladies, and I'm like, yeah, it's not going to end well for you.
- [30:16]
Eddie Judge
Oh, yeah.
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Edwin Arroyave
Shout out to whoever does the casting, right? It's like, they know what they're doing because these girls are just quick. Man, I'm. I'm amazed. And, you know, a lot of times people think of like, well, what do they do? They're just going on the show and talking. Like, they are very smart.
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Eddie Osefo
Yes, yes.
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Edwin Arroyave
Yeah, yeah.
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Eddie Osefo
If you're not quick, you're not going to last long. They're going to eat you alive as a woman, as a new wife, as any. Yeah, you're not going to last very long.
- [30:41]
Eddie Judge
Now, a real serious question, and I'm sure the viewers will want to hear the truth and honest answer, and that's. Have you and your wife ever, like, had fights, stupid fights over what happened on the show or what's going on on the show? And you're like, what? The hell are we fighting about?
- [31:00]
Eddie Osefo
Yes. Short answer. Yes. And it's. It happened a lot in the beginning as well, because it's like, you know, it's reality tv, but then you have your own reality. And it's like, maybe subconsciously, I would say something that maybe happened online or happened. One of the women called her on the show, and I'll say it at home, and she's like, see, you're using the show against me. And at home. And I'm like, I didn't even realize it. It's just, you know, still a word, but I didn't realize it. But it's like those type of things are triggers when she's going through, you know, filming the show or just not seeing eye to eye on, okay, there's a dispute on the show, and I'm giving you my honest opinion. And you don't like modest opinion because, you know, you feel like I'm siding with someone else. Like disputes about the show. They happened in the beginning. And I had to just realize, like, okay, give my wife some time to decompress from filming. Don't ask her about filming. Don't ask her about the show. You know, ask her about how her day went. And then try not to get too invested in this show because inevitably, you know, we end up being the sounding board when they come back from, you know, these cast events or filming or what have you. We end up being the. The sounding board of. The voice of reason, the calm voice. And so I think that, you know, we have gotten. Fights begin. We haven't gotten into them lately because it's really like, oh, okay. Oh, that's going on. Oh, wow.
- [32:20]
Eddie Judge
Wow. Yeah, you kind of figured out, you know, like, it's just a TV show. And, yeah. As long as they don't do or say anything that will really hurt our career or our livelihood, I think it's just a TV show. But when they start really affecting the other things that are important, like even your relationship with your kids or business partners or whatnot, I. I don't really see that happening because my. My truth is, as long as I'm not doing anything illegal, immoral, or, you know, criminal, I'm fine. Yeah, you know, I'm just me just having a good time in life. So I'm not breaking the law and going to jail and, you know, becoming a yoga instructor because I was in jail for a year. You know, I just not. I'm just not doing like that.
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Edwin Arroyave
Yeah.
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah.
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Eddie Judge
I'm just being me, so.
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Eddie Osefo
And you can tell when they make when they make up those lies and they don't stick, they just go away miraculously.
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Eddie Judge
And the ones that stick are the ones that are going, no, no, it's not true. It's this way.
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Caitlin Murray
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Eddie Judge
52.
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Caitlin Murray
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Edwin Arroyave
What's the best thing that's come out of being on Housewives for you?
- [37:03]
Eddie Judge
Great question.
- [37:04]
Eddie Osefo
That's a great question. I think, you know, it's funny. I think actually being on Housewives has strengthened our relationship. My wife Wendy and I strengthened our relationship because it's forced us. Not forced us, but it allowed us to get closer when you feel like it's us against the world. So I think that's one thing. I think also my kids have actually, I've been able to maintain a sense of normalcy for them, but also build them up in a way that I wasn't, you know, I wasn't raised. So in a sense of, you know, they're growing up in the spotlight, you know, like, I have two boys, they walked on in New York Fashion Week one year. And, like, those opportunities, like, I've never had those opportunities growing up. So being able to give them those type of opportunities is one of those things where it's once in a lifetime. And so I'm really appreciative of the Housewives universe for allowing them that. That space and that opportunity to go that way. And then also just starting businesses like this cannabis business, you know, that I started. It's happy Eddie. Wouldn't be happy Eddie if I wasn't on this platform, you know, and so I think that the opportunity to meet the people I've met, to be in the rooms that I've been in and I've been able to. I've been one of those people that said, if I'm going to be talked about on this show, I'm going to leverage this platform to my benefit. I'm not going to be talked about. And then I'll go in the corner and I'll cry and I'll say, oh, man, they're talking about me. No, I'm going to take full advantage of the opportunity. And so that's what I've done. Kind of pride in myself on trying to do and not just sitting on the sidelines and just, you know, eating popcorn and watching the show go on.
- [38:29]
Eddie Judge
It's definitely a springboard to anything you want to do. We've been very successful with our CBD company as well, and I don't think we'd be where we're at without the platform, although we launched our company in 2018 or 2019, but towards the beginning of the farm bill, so. But Bravo wasn't very inclined to show anything cannabis. And we did a. We did a whole, you know, one of those parties and all the housewives were there, and you got to make sure there's a bitch fight, otherwise it's not going to air.
- [39:03]
Eddie Osefo
Yeah.
- [39:04]
Eddie Judge
And there was. And they just decided not to show it. And that really pissed me off and made me really think twice about what am I doing on the show if they're not going to, you know, do their part. So.
- [39:14]
Eddie Osefo
Right.
- [39:14]
Eddie Judge
Fortunately, we were true to our brand and built it up, you know, like just a regular business. And fortunately, the brand and the products spoke for themselves because in this industry, when we started, you couldn't advertise anything cannabis. Not on social media, nowhere. So we were like, how are we supposed to sell you something? We can't tell you it's good for you, how. How it works for you. You know, it's very challenging. So, yeah, I'm really. I mean, it's. It's a tough business, but it's very rewarding because it is. It is a med plant, and a lot of customers have benefited from it, definitely.
- [39:52]
Eddie Osefo
I would love to try some of your products, too.
- [39:54]
Edwin Arroyave
What's the one thing that you would, you know, for any entrepreneur that's listening to the show or that's maybe wanting to get into, into a new business. What's the number one advice you would give them coming from the corporate world? Because I'm sure a lot of fans of the show are probably nine to five corporate people that maybe dream of jumping into that entrepreneurship. And Eddie, maybe you could answer that as well. What is the number one advice that you would give someone that's thinking about maybe getting into entrepreneurship?
- [40:25]
Eddie Osefo
Yeah, I would say the number one advice I would, I would give is to seek out, I guess you call them mentors or seek out a board of advisees who are doing what you want to do and really educate yourself on what it is you're trying to get yourself into. Because, you know, people believe it or not, they love to talk and they love, especially when they're expert in their field, they love to share knowledge and love to be the go to person of the knowledge base. And so I think seeking out folks who can give you that information transfer and can give you that quick Cliff Notes into the industry and then you take that learning and you apply it to, you know, what you're trying to do. I think that's invaluable. And that's kind of advice that you won't be able to realize until you are fully entrenched and facing obstacles in the industry and you'll be able to call upon those people or call upon that advice that you were given, you know, initially. And so I think that's probably the number one advice that I would give to anyone who is venturing out and, and don't think because you, you're leaving corporate America, you're going to leave all that learning behind because you're going to apply all those characteristics, you know, setting meetings, setting an agenda, you know, running through your, you know, your outcomes and what your to do list. Like you have to utilize those things in entrepreneurship every single day. If you don't like, you're going to flounder and waste time and it's not going to be good for you. So I think that's number one advice I would give.
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Eddie Judge
I have to agree 100%. Yeah. With what you said. And the only thing I would piggyback on is, you know, it's the hardest. It's like finding a life partner. It's finding the right people that are going to be on the board, on the ship with you, you know, and have skin in the game. Because doing it on your own is one of the hardest things to do in business. You know, you're going to be wearing too many hats and it's going to be too difficult to succe. So find a partner or two or as many as you can get, that will help you improve your chances of success, you know, but again, make sure there are people you really trust. You really know they have a skin in the game and a real interest in the game, because doing it by yourself is too hard.
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Edwin Arroyave
Yep. No, I, I agree with that. And I. I love the answer, guys. What I would add to that, as far as, you know, the. The importance of association, the importance of mentorship, a lot of people say, well, I don't have access to those people. And the reality of it is you do. With all the YouTube stuff that's there, you could literally study people. And I can tell you that one. One of the ways you can connect with people is if you DM them and you tell them something back about a story that, that they told about their life. If you could tie that back to, like, if you can show them that you paid attention to their story, they will get back to you. It's got to be something specific that they know. Man, this person took the time.
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Eddie Osefo
Right.
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Edwin Arroyave
To study me. Yeah, Right. Versus just sending them a generic. I sent this to a thousand people. And let's say if you respond, if you could make it very unique, where they know it's specific to them, you'll be. You'd be amazed how many people will respond to you.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah. Or even if you're trying to work for a company, you do the research, you know, you look into the company, you find out everything about it. And don't send them a, hey, are you hiring? Hiring email. Say, hey, I'd love to work for you, and here's the reasons why.
- [43:41]
Eddie Osefo
Right. You got to do your due diligence, for sure.
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Eddie Judge
Got to do it. Yeah. That's awesome.
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Edwin Arroyave
And what's next for you, Eddie? What's. What do you got planned and what are you looking forward to in this new season?
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Eddie Osefo
So this new season, it's. It's just getting off the grounds. I don't know how. I don't want to be the. The leak, if you will, but the new season is getting off the ground. It's going really well. I think this next season is going to be a great season. There's also some other things in the pipeline for the. The Osepos. And so I think that, you know, we have some announcements coming up in terms of family announcements, and then we also, you know, like I said, I'm expanding the brand, so I'm going to be traveling a lot into different states and partnering with different folks that some people may know, some people may not know, a lot of people probably do know. And so just, just trying to make the most of, you know, the opportunities and really just trying to enjoy the ride while it's still a ride, if you will.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, Love that. I love it.
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Edwin Arroyave
Eddie, man, you. You're, again, very charismatic. Your business is obviously, I think, gonna do very well. I love the business you picked. I think it's especially as to your point, as more states get a little more, I guess. What's the word?
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Eddie Judge
Lenient.
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Edwin Arroyave
Lenient.
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Eddie Osefo
Yeah.
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Edwin Arroyave
I think it's a great business, especially with your platform as well. So very excited to see you continue to shine.
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Eddie Osefo
Thanks. Thanks, guys. The Eddies finally squeeze me right in the middle with the Eddie Oreos.
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Edwin Arroyave
Well, if you come down to la, hit us up, man.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah, please.
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Edwin Arroyave
We'd love to.
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Eddie Judge
And are you going to Bravicon this year?
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Eddie Osefo
Probably. Actually, I went the past years and I went to Bravo Fan.
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Eddie Judge
Oh, you did?
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Eddie Osefo
Okay, I'll attend.
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Eddie Judge
Yeah. Well, hopefully we'll see you there because I. I'm excited about it. I. I went to the one two years ago in Vegas and it was so awesome. I met so many, you know, other house husbands and, you know, not a lot of them I like, but a lot of them I really got to know and. And especially the Jersey Boys. They're a lot of fun. They're good.
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Eddie Osefo
They're. They're a hoot. They're a lot of fun.
- [45:51]
Eddie Judge
They are a lot of fun. So hopefully we'll get to see you then, if not before. And thank you so much for being on the eds.
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Eddie Osefo
Thanks for having me, guys. Appreciate it.
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