The Lady of the Manor w/ Dorinda Medley

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode Title: The Lady of the Manor w/ Dorinda Medley
Date: December 5, 2025
Guest: Dorinda Medley (Real Housewives of New York, Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, The Traitors)
Hosts: Wells Adams (guest co-hosting), Tamra Judge

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into Dorinda Medley’s reality TV journey, her return to The Traitors for Season 4, the challenges and behind-the-scenes realities of reality TV filming, and memorable stories from both her Housewives days and life at Bluestone Manor. The discussion is candid, witty, and full of industry insights, especially about the evolution of reality TV and what makes shows like The Traitors so addictive.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Alcohol on Reality TV Sets

Starts ~03:11

• The hosts and Dorinda lament the absence of alcohol on The Traitors set and discuss its role in fueling drama and inhibitions on other reality shows.
  • Quote (Tamra Judge): “We did not go there to go to rehab.” [05:52]
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “It would lower the fear and inhibitions. Like, can you imagine what people would really say with a couple of Mercedes?” [06:12]
• Recalling fun and wild filming stories, the group jokes that some of the most memorable reality TV moments happen thanks to a few cocktails.

2. The Traitors: Season 3 Exit & Season 4 Return

Deep dive from 04:43, main topic at 12:43, revisit at 17:00

• Dorinda recalls being the first one eliminated on The Traitors Season 3 and reveals how isolated and unfulfilled she felt.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “I would have left completely devastated and broken heart and feeling very lonely. But when you walked into that room... it almost made me feel better. Like, I was like, oh, wait a second.” [13:26]
• Returns for Season 4, eager to have a chance at the full experience and determined not to take things so personally this time.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “I went back to season four just not taking it so personally.” [14:05]
• She expresses resentment that production eliminated big personalities early, noting it damages the entertainment value.
  • Quote (Wells Adams): "You cannot get rid of the biggest TV star on your TV show.” [05:28]

3. Reality TV Game Strategies & Personal Growth

From 17:00 on

• Dorinda shares her approach for Season 4: not over-preparing, not over-thinking, and letting events unfold naturally, unlike the first attempt where she was highly prepared.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “Clearly what I did before doesn’t work ... I’m just gonna go back.” [18:54]
• Discussion of the intense isolation contestants face before and during filming, including confiscated phones and limited contact with the outside world.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “Even just having your phone taken away is something that was ... I think so good.” [16:29]
  • Quote (Tamra Judge): “No—it was horrible!” [16:31]

4. Challenges and Ethics in The Traitors Gameplay

19:16 and again at 21:08

• Dorinda reveals she doesn’t regret her outspoken behavior, especially defending other contestants (e.g., Dolores), and criticizes contestants who “won by being silent.”
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “Let me double down. I think it was disgusting the way none of those men got off that path.” [17:32]
• Hosts discuss the challenge of being sent home early and missing opportunities for camaraderie—a key emotional component for reality stars.

5. The Castle & Bluestone Manor Parallels

20:01 and 24:13

• Dorinda shares anecdotes about the actual Scottish castle used in The Traitors, its haunted reputation, and the economic transformation since being used for TV filming.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “Now it’s a ... huge tourist attraction ... people come to see two things now. The Loch Ness Monster. And the Trader’s Castle.” [22:20]
• Draws connections to her famous Bluestone Manor, including its lineage, personal meaning, and quirks.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “My husband, my late husband, bought me this property before we were married ... my great grandfather built this house.” [24:14]
• Jokes about not knowing how many acres she owns, and about never paying a bill while married—adding her typical sharp wit.

6. Season 4 Teasers & Dream Casts for The Traitors

Starts 27:51 and again at 28:09

• Dorinda teases that Season 4 is “an incredible cast...much more filled with antics and, dare I say, a little housewifery.”
• Talks possible future contestants, mentioning Lisa Rinna, Carole Radziwill, Luanne, celebrity chefs, Sarah Paulson, politicians, and even Elon Musk.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “You know who I think would be great on Traders is Carole Radziwill. ... She’s constantly playing Clue.” [28:57]
• Discusses the challenges of getting big-name celebrities to participate due to fees and time commitments.
  • Quote (Tamra Judge): “It would be great to have like A-list celebrities doing this as well...but none of them...it'd be so expensive to hire them.” [30:57]

7. What Makes The Traitors Compelling Reality TV?

37:06 to 39:09

• Dorinda highlights the “thick veil of secrecy,” high production value, and the show’s study of human behavior and conformity.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “The way they create it is such an incredible exercise in human behavior ... you never thought you would do. It’s such an exercise in human nature. ... It’s like Lord of the Flies.” [37:06–37:53]
• Hosts debate possible show format changes, like hiding traitor identities from the audience, to further increase suspense.
  • Quote (Tamra Judge): “I thought it'd be really cool if they didn't let the audience know who the traitors were.” [38:36]
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “I don't even think they should announce the cast so early on.” [39:36]

8. Dorinda’s Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade Story & Final Laughs

41:03 to end

• Dorinda shares an anecdote from participating in New York’s Thanksgiving Parade—mistakenly assuming a cheering crowd was for her, when actually for the Grinch walking behind her.
  • Quote (Dorinda Medley): “So I start waving to the crowd ... the Grinch was walking behind me!” [41:46]
• Quick reflection on never hosting Thanksgiving at Bluestone Manor again: “I’ll never host again at Bluestone Manor Thanksgiving, I am staying in New York City.” [41:13]

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Timestamped Notable Quotes

• On the need for alcohol in filming:
  “We did not go there to go to rehab.”
  — Tamra Judge [05:52]

• Dorinda on leaving too soon in Season 3:
  “You really feel so isolated…you just think that you're just the big old loser. You don't realize that other people that are good people are going to be killed off as well.”
  — Dorinda Medley [13:26]

• On returning for Season 4:
  “I went back to season four just not taking it so personally.”
  — Dorinda Medley [14:05]

• On reality TV game strategies:
  “Clearly what I did before doesn’t work ... I’m just gonna go back.”
  — Dorinda Medley [18:54]

• On unfair eliminations:
  “You cannot get rid of the biggest TV star on your TV show.”
  — Wells Adams [05:28]

• On her Manor’s legacy:
  “My husband, my late husband bought me this property before we were married...my great grandfather built this house.”
  — Dorinda Medley [24:14]

• On the Trader’s Castle transformation:
  “Now it’s a ... huge tourist attraction ... people come to see two things now. The Loch Ness Monster. And the Trader’s Castle.”
  — Dorinda Medley [22:20]

• On the essence of The Traitors:
  “The way they create it is such an incredible exercise in human behavior...It’s like Lord of the Flies.”
  — Dorinda Medley [37:06–37:53]

• Parade story punchline:
  “The crowd went crazy...the Grinch was walking behind me!”
  — Dorinda Medley [41:46]

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Memorable Moments

• The recurring plea for letting contestants drink on The Traitors, with much laughter and empathy for the stress of reality TV filming.
• Dorinda’s pride in standing up for fellow contestants and not following the “silent” strategy.
• Insider scoop about the castle’s history and renovations, complete with haunting rumors.
• Candid discussions about female agency, money, and learning to never pay a bill during marriage.
• Dorinda’s hilarious parade mishap, keeping the conversation light and on-brand until the end.

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Additional Highlights

• Hosts and Dorinda speculate on future Traitors casting, dropping names both realistic and fun.
• Frequent industry meta-commentary on production decisions, cast leaks, and show evolution.
• The podcast’s easy, breezy tone is filled with good-natured ribbing, self-deprecation, and the sense that, for these Housewives, reality TV is both art and survival game.

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Key Segment Timestamps

• [03:11] — Alcohol & filming realities
• [04:43] — Dorinda’s Season 3 Traitors exit/return overview
• [12:43] — Season 4 teasers & strategy differences
• [17:00] — Isolation & contestant mental toll; first task regrets
• [21:08] — Bluestone Manor & castle backstory
• [24:14] — Dorinda’s personal connection and inheritance story
• [28:09] — Season 4 cast teasers & reality TV casting wishlist
• [37:06] — What makes The Traitors great TV
• [38:36] — Debate on format tweaks (hiding Traitor identities, announcement leaks)
• [41:13] — Dorinda’s Thanksgiving Parade story & Bluestone Manor swan song
• [43:12] — Final reflections & banter

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By the end, listeners feel both the wildness and depth of the world these reality stars inhabit, with major takeaways on game strategy, TV production, personal growth, and the value of a good story. Dorinda’s blend of humor and honesty keeps the episode lively, informative, and very much “in the manor.”

Transcript

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[Wells Adams]

All right, welcome in all you faithfuls and traders out there for another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wells Adams and I'm alongside Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Today we are missing Dolores. I know she's traveling. Where are you at, Wells?

[Wells Adams]

I'm in New York right now. I spent the. The holiday here because my wife's doing this Broadway show. And then I worked the. The parade, which was very fun.

[Tamara Judge]

What'd you do last night?

[Wells Adams]

I went out for some of my. My good buddy's birthday. She's giving me. She's giving me crap because I've got whiskey and.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, you got a little hair of the dog.

[Wells Adams]

You know, this is one thing that I needed when I was on Traders, which they wouldn't give us. They did not let us drink, by the way.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't you think it'd be a better show if they let us drink 100%?

[Wells Adams]

You give me. You give me two cocktails and you put me in that interview room.

[Tamara Judge]

So entertaining when I'm drunk. Yes, yes. I just. I understand, like the mission. You can't do that. But as soon as the missions are done, start pumping people with alcohol.

[Wells Adams]

Yes. What are we doing here? We're making a reality TV show. Let's make a. Let's make a good one.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, this is sad to say, but I find it hard to even make good reality TV when I'm not drunk. I become an alcoholic three months out of the year.

[Wells Adams]

My entire job on reality TV is getting people drunk on reality tv. Everyone needs a bartender.

[Tamara Judge]

They do. And I think that they need. And I think that Dorinda is going to agree with us on that. We'll have to ask her when we bring her in.

[Wells Adams]

Yes. Speaking of our guest today is Dorinda Medley, a TV personality best known for appearance on the Bravo series the Real Housewives of New York Diddy. In 2015, she joined the cast and remained until season 12. In 2020, she went on to star in season two and four of the Real Housewives, the Ultimate Girls Trip, and appeared on season three of the Traitors, although she was the first one to be eliminated. But fear not, everyone out there. It's been revealed that Dorinda will be making her second appearance in Traders Season 4, airing in January. I imagine she'll do better than she did on season three.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Because they're to get rid of somebody the first time again.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Also stupid on Productions part. You cannot get rid of the biggest TV star on your TV show.

[Tamara Judge]

Not smart.

[Wells Adams]

Not smart. We need booze, and we need not to get rid of Dorindom Headley. Those are the two things we need, Peacock.

[Tamara Judge]

Yep, I agree with that.

[Wells Adams]

All right, without further ado, welcome onto by order. The Faithfuls. They're in the medley.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. Welcome, welcome. We were just talking about drinking on Traders. That the big mistake. I feel like they need to give us alcohol. I understand when the mission's going on, too dangerous to give alcohol, but as soon as that mission's over, start giving us alcohol. We did not go there to go to rehab.

[Dorinda Medley]

Not only that, I think it would. It would take away a lot of the. It would lower the fear and inhibitions. Like, can you imagine what people would really say with a couple of Mercedes?

[Tamara Judge]

Exactly, exactly. I was just telling Wells, like, it's hard for me nowadays to even film without. Without having some liquid courage.

[Dorinda Medley]

Well, I get.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah, I was having withdrawals there. I was like, guys, you got to let me drink or I'm going to absolutely have a stroke out here. That's when I realized I might have a problem.

[Dorinda Medley]

Because here. No, it's that. Because there. There's so little outside. Like, anything to relax your nerves. So, like, after a 14 hour day, you just want to sit down.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

Even if they limited it to two or three. Nothing. Like maybe one before the round table.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, maybe two after I say three before the table. That, to me was the most stressful part is that round table.

[Dorinda Medley]

I never made it to a round table the first round.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, well, we know you. You're coming back, though, so.

[Dorinda Medley]

Did I make it to a round table? I can't remember. No, I just made it to where they got. Where they got the pick.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Dorinda, did you do better than you did on season three and season four?

[Dorinda Medley]

I can't answer that. I've already been called 92 times, you know? Yeah, of course. I can't find by the. By the traders people. No, by. By the worlds that be. No, they. They really are like, yeah, no, I'm not gonna do any of that. I'm not gonna. For once in my life, I'm gonna.

[Tamara Judge]

Try not keep my mouth shut.

[Dorinda Medley]

Yeah. Try not to up.

[Tamara Judge]

They're very strict, too. Like, I remember after I got murdered, they literally put me in a car, right? Somebody ran to my car with a piece of paper saying, sign here right now. Meaning you can't say a word.

[Dorinda Medley]

Not only that, then you go home and you realize Especially because I got murdered so easily. People thought I was right. So I had to like, you can't go to a restaurant. Yeah. Because if they see you, then they put two and two together. So I went to the Berkshires. Didn't go on Instagram. You're in isolation.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yep. And it's hard because I had the podcast and I thought, oh, I can go home and start doing the podcast. No, I couldn't even tell anybody I was home.

[Dorinda Medley]

I couldn't do the radio show. Yeah. No. Tam, I heard that you were sick as well. You know, I'm just getting done with being sick. From Bravo Con.

[Tamara Judge]

Just Eddie had to go to urgent care on Thanksgiving Day morning because he has bronchitis. From Bravo Con.

[Dorinda Medley]

I went to Solace on. I did the Macy's Day parade on Friday with Macy's. And I came back and I was so cold. I went to sleep for two hours. I woke up, I thought I couldn't breathe. I ended up at Solis. I was like, no, I'm. I think I have Covid. I have something. Like, I was almost hoping it was covet. Otherwise I was like, I'm dying here. Because I wasn't. I wasn't progress. Usually with these things, you progressively get better every day. And I wasn't. I was.

[Tamara Judge]

That's how Eddie was. And he's like, it's almost over. It's going to be gone. It's going be gone.

[Dorinda Medley]

I'm like, we're going on two steroid. And it did this.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. They put him on one of those Z packs or what? Something like that.

[Dorinda Medley]

It's the B. And I don't like to do that, but I'm like, I'm getting too run down.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Co.

[Dorinda Medley]

They got to do something about that. That's. That's not much.

[Wells Adams]

It's go. It's going around for.

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[Wells Adams]

In season three. Dorinda, you were a faithful. So what was it like being a traitor in season four?

[Dorinda Medley]

Oh my God, this is not going to be a good podcast. I literally, when I saw this on my schedule two days ago, I'm like, what? I almost called Courtney and said because, you know, they kibosh this. But I'm like, now Tamara would do that.

[Tamara Judge]

No, we're not doing. You have a tipsy Wells over there. He's drinking whiskey right now because he's hungover from last night.

[Wells Adams]

I am. It's okay. But so can you say what season did you have more Fun on? Season 3 or Season 4?

[Dorinda Medley]

Again? Can't answer that. Because. Okay, I didn't have any. I wasn't there. Wells. The best part of season three was really the most thing that really. Because I would have left completely devastated and broken heart and feeling very lonely. But when you walked into that room and you sat down and you were like. And I would have never guessed you were the second. It almost made me feel better. Like, I was like. I was like, oh, wait a second. Because you really feel so isolated. You think that you're just the big old loser. You don't realize that other people that are good people are going to be killed off as well. That's the thing. It's such a. It's such a mind game, Right?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

I think I went back. I did. I will say this. I went back to season four. Just not taking it so personally. And I really had to, in my mind, like, not think like you. There's nothing like Housewives.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you have any hesitation going back or did you, like, immediately go, yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

Let'S do this immediately. Because I felt so jipped and so, so Like I never got to even have the experience. I was. I was almost more when I. When we were at the Also too. I just hated that feeling. You know, we. Camera, I think you can relate to this. We come from a generation where we just don't fail.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

Like, you know, especially. And if we do, it's a worthy fail. Like, it's something that you can really just say, okay, get it. Now I know how to. This one I couldn't get my head around. I really. And I really missed out on the camaraderie. I was very jealous how everybody had this secret I didn't have at the reunion. Like, everybody had formed this bond that I was like. Like you do on. If you're lucky. I won't say it for your season, but like you do on Housewives, like you used to do on Housewives, right?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, used to.

[Dorinda Medley]

So I really felt like I didn't. It was an incomplete task. Check in my psyche. To me, it was just a real big, like, incomplete.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you weren't there that long, were you?

[Dorinda Medley]

I mean, I know, but it's Just who I am, you know.

[Tamara Judge]

How many days were you actually there? Because I know for me, I don't know if it's the same for you guys. We had to come in three days early. We were isolated.

[Dorinda Medley]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

We sat in that room like we were in jail. We had to ask for food. We had to ask for medication. And then if you're lucky, you got a walk. And that was about it. So how many days were you there?

[Dorinda Medley]

But, you know, I just. I just was like. I just. I went in too prepared last time, and I was too. I thought I could figure it out. The thing about. I always say to everyone, everybody should try Traders once. It's almost like a rehab, you know, and not just a light way. Like, you know, you come back from it there one day, five days, 20 days, you come back from it. Like the first time they put. Even in season three when they put their phone. Because no matter what, you still have to do stuff. It's not like you're there overnight and come back. You get there a little early, then you stay and do your final stuff and pack up. Even just having your phone taken away is something that was. I think so good.

[Tamara Judge]

No, it was horrible.

[Dorinda Medley]

No, I liked it.

[Tamara Judge]

I hated it.

[Dorinda Medley]

But, you know, I don't. I'm not into the phone anymore.

[Tamara Judge]

I. I'm less into the phone, but I just feel like being that far away. But I still have, like, kids at.

[Dorinda Medley]

Home, and I don't have that. And Hannah had, like, they had Hannah's number and they had my. And my parent. Like, when Hannah knew, if anything happened to my parents, you know, they would call Hannah and Hannah would call whoever her contact was there.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, your first. The. For your first mission, would you have done that differently?

[Dorinda Medley]

Now, looking back, my first mission. No, I don't do that kind of stuff. No. I really wish I could. No.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you wish you weren't so vocal?

[Wells Adams]

You did. You would not get back on that pontoon if you had a chance, because.

[Dorinda Medley]

A hundred percent, I would have. I wasn't really. I saw. When I saw Dolores there by herself, there was no way that I was gonna just. I thought it was terrible the way to this day, not only do I not regret it. Let me just double down like I did on the house.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

Let me double down. I think it was disgusting the way none of those men got off that path.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

Gonna leave her there.

[Wells Adams]

We had. We had Ivar on recently. And that was someone who you were very upset with in Season.

[Dorinda Medley]

Well, Ivar was just very Bloated about everything.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

You know, and he's someone that won by being silent. Like, there's no skill in that. Like, anybody can hide under a rock. Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Let's talk about, you know, you had. You have now hindsight. Right. Like, you did season three. It didn't work out well. Then you. You've gotten to go on season four. You filmed the entire thing. You said earlier that one of the things, you try to not take it so personal the second time around. What are some other things that you employed in the second time around that you didn't do the first time?

[Dorinda Medley]

Well, going into it, I think it's all about going into it. Once you're there, it's kind of like, you know, you have to. It's. There's just a lot of control factors. It's not a. It's not a thing that you can control. But I think the preparation, it was totally different. The going the first time on. I was totally prepared. I was. I hired a trainer. I had read every book Hannah had written me, every philosopher. I had my clothes on point. I like.

[Tamara Judge]

You were ready.

[Dorinda Medley]

I was ready. This time. I didn't pack till like, a week before. They kept writing, writing me and writing me. I didn't even work out. I'm like, okay. I just, you know, I did my usual workout routine. Not that kind of. And I just thought, let it be. Like, I just was like, you know what? Clearly what I did before doesn't work. And. And that's it. I'm just gonna go back.

[Tamara Judge]

And what did Hannah say when you said, I'm going back?

[Dorinda Medley]

Good. You know? She did, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

She's always such a voice of reason, like, mom.

[Dorinda Medley]

Yeah, good. She's like, you. It's good for you, Mom. You should go back and do it. You were, you know, and see if, you know, because you feel. I did. That's what she used the word. I felt unfulfilled. I felt unfinished. Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, I think it's. It's a good idea that they bring back the. The person that is murdered first and you know what?

[Dorinda Medley]

I really.

[Wells Adams]

And second, and.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they both. It's not. Not. We're not there yet.

[Dorinda Medley]

Almost didn't matter. Once I got there, what happened? I was like, yeah, I'm back again. You know what I mean? It's almost like. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Did it remind you a little bit of Bluestone Manor?

[Dorinda Medley]

A little bit, yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, me too.

[Dorinda Medley]

Very much. You know, obviously, it's the extreme form. It's. It's sort of like older Cat. Now, here's a funny story about the castle, which you probably don't know. I been in that castle before because when I lived in London, my friend Donald McTaggart, who still owns it.

[Tamara Judge]

Do they live in Greece?

[Dorinda Medley]

Yes, yes. He was married to. My friend, said, you know everything, Tam, which you don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I ask questions.

[Dorinda Medley]

My very good still friend, Sabina McTaggar, who's German, and we'd gone up there one weekend. Now, it wasn't fixed up inside and you didn't actually stay there, but we had had like a lunch on the grounds and it's. It was called Banniston Castle or something.

[Tamara Judge]

Why did they buy it?

[Dorinda Medley]

Well, it was a family castle. Right. So Donald McTaggart, who is Greek now, but obviously has Scottish heritage. You know how they inherit everything over there? And. And it was really like. Here's the thing. I lived in London for 10 years and I. And I.

[Wells Adams]

So.

[Dorinda Medley]

And I would go to Scotland every weekend because my husband, my first husband was Scottish. And we spent every weekend in Scotland because he was part owner of the Celtic football team. We have soccer teams. Football, whatever. But we used to wander a lot. And then his brother owned a little mini castle. So, like, I know it sounds crazy, but it was kind of like you see in one castle you're seeing them all because, you know, they're kind of so many rundown castles in England and that people go and have lunches on that. When I went the first time, and then it all happened so fast. I thought, God, it just seems so familiar to me. How weird, right? And then Donald called me and said, you know, I can't believe you were at the. I said, I knew it.

[Tamara Judge]

So now the family just rented out to. I heard they had weddings there.

[Dorinda Medley]

Well, now it's up.

[Tamara Judge]

They're contracted to traders.

[Wells Adams]

Right.

[Dorinda Medley]

That one place. And the economics of that place have been a game changer because what once was for Donald, a complete money suck. And sort of this place that. What do you do, just pay the taxes and keep it remotely. Now it's a. It's not only a huge tourist attraction, the place. And for weddings and events.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

Now for the people come to the town, I mean, it's like they go to see two things now. The Loch Ness Monster. Monster. And the Trader's Castle.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, the Trader's Castle, for people that have not been in it, the whole downstairs is pretty staged.

[Dorinda Medley]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It staged with like a set, like the kitchen.

[Dorinda Medley]

You're not afraid?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't think so. I think, like, I don't think there's like a working oven or anything like that in there. And upstairs, I had ventured upstairs and it's all being renovated. At least it was in season two.

[Dorinda Medley]

Well, even, you know, you could see from season three to when I went season four, like the bathrooms are being done what they've done, which is clever and they should, they're obviously as, as the show wins more and more Emmys and it gets more and more. Now they're doing the civilian one and they're, they're running with this and obviously people are obsessed. And I really think it's the way of where reality is going is into these kind of wacky shows. They have money, so you're gonna watch. They're gonna end up doing that whole entire castle. I wouldn't be surprised at some point if they finish the whole thing. They have some people stay there because. Yeah, they're moving fast and getting that. But I'll tell you a fun fact about it, you know, it's very haunted.

[Tamara Judge]

I could imagine.

[Dorinda Medley]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Well, so many people have been murdered there and banished. I imagine that.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, is it you haunting it?

[Wells Adams]

Well, just rattling chains late at night.

[Dorinda Medley]

It did remind me of an extreme form of blue stone man. Because blue stone man is not like, well, you, you know, it's not like a regular house. It's sort of like an old fashioned house that's got, you know, obviously it has modern day. Although Vicki wouldn't say it. Vicki would say it's like barely got electricity, but it is all modernized. Right.

[Tamara Judge]

It is, it's beautiful.

[Dorinda Medley]

But it's run like in the same fashion in a lot of ways. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And then you're on how many acres?

[Dorinda Medley]

21.

[Tamara Judge]

That's all.

[Dorinda Medley]

But I'm selling some of it. So I, I'm, I made a decision. I. So here's an interesting story, Wells. I, I, My husband, my late husband bought me this property before we were married. So as a wedding present, because I love the house growing up because I grew up down the road and my great grandfather built this house.

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[Tamara Judge]

I didn't know your great grandfather, I didn't know that.

[Dorinda Medley]

My great grandfather was brought over from Italy as the team to be one of the, the masons. My grandfather, my uncle and then my grandfather worked at it. So it was kind of like my grandfather, my Italian sign were all masons and all that. You can imagine those boy cement people. Okay. Very Italian.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

So I always grew up in the house over the years was owned and then not owned. And we Used to wander the grounds with my brother and go with these old crazy houses that were all over the Berkshires from the Gilded Age. And I would say to them, I'm going to own the house today. I told Ralph the story, and we were dating. We got engaged. He then bought me the house. But the house had never been renovated, so, you know, it's it. So he bought it for me six months before we got married, which was very fortuitous and so lucky, because when he died, it wasn't part of the merit. It wasn't part of the estate. So when it was, it was such a. Like. Not that I'm happy he had to pass to learn, but it's almost like it was predictive, because if I remember going to Proskauer's, the law firm, and. And we were doing assets, and he came back to me, like, a week later, he said, by the way, this isn't an asset in your state because it's only. It's only in your name. And it was purchased six months before you were married. How bizarre is that?

[Tamara Judge]

That is.

[Wells Adams]

Oh, man. One day I want to own a manor. That would be very.

[Dorinda Medley]

I don't know if you do. It's a lot of work. I mean, at this point, how often are you there? Why?

[Tamara Judge]

How often are you there?

[Dorinda Medley]

A lot, because my parents are still down the road, and my parents are old and faltering, and it's just kind of in my blood at this point. But it goes in spurts. Like, for instance, now I'm back. I came back last night. It's sort of. I won't go back up until closer to Christmas. Hannah's here. There's a lot going on.

[Tamara Judge]

Remind me how long the drive is.

[Dorinda Medley]

A little over two hours.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I thought. It's like me going to Big Bear. Takes two hours to get there.

[Dorinda Medley]

Beautiful drive. You know, up in Millbrook, I have. You know, I see some friends in Millbrook, and. Listen, I think there's. There's. But. But the funny thing is, I never knew how many acres I owned because Richard died. And I just was, like, trying to get through that and survive through that and think, what. How am I gonna. What am I. I didn't even. I would, to tell you the truth. When I was married to Richard, I never paid a bill. I know. I know you can't believe that about me, but I leaned into it. I leaned in. Mrs. Medley, Foley.

[Tamara Judge]

It's not a bad place to be. It's not a bad place to be.

[Wells Adams]

I. One day Dream of also never paying.

[Dorinda Medley]

Here. This woman, and she was great. All the bills. I didn't even barely get mail. They just got paid. And I was like, well, this is.

[Tamara Judge]

Funny how that happened because I grew.

[Dorinda Medley]

Up with no money. So all of a sudden I was.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, what do you mean?

[Dorinda Medley]

I. He goes, yeah, you know, she just. It all goes to the office, so that gets paid. So of course, I. You know, you can lean into rich people stuff very easily. It's. It's very easy.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

And we talk about Traders and not.

[Dorinda Medley]

Yes, go ahead.

[Wells Adams]

Not about your manner.

[Dorinda Medley]

Oh, yes, I know. I don't know how we did that. Sorry. That's how it happen with me.

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[Wells Adams]

You Housewives will just go on tangents.

[Dorinda Medley]

Terrible.

[Wells Adams]

Obviously, at BravoCon, they showed the trailer for season four. I know that you can't talk a whole lot about it, but what can you say about season four to get people excited? Allan said something like, it's the, you know, like, the craziest thing happens this season. What can you say about season four to get everyone pumped?

[Dorinda Medley]

Well, I think I can tell you right now, it's just an incredible cast. It's a very interesting, eclectic, colorful cast. It's a much more sort of. And I think there's. It's just a cast that's much more filled with antics and. And, dare I say, a little housewifery.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, dare you. Anybody you didn't care for in the cast?

[Dorinda Medley]

Yes. And I can't even. It's not that you care for me. Just did not take to me the. There were just certain people that, you know, I think you always lean towards the Housewives. I was very happy to see Lisa Rinna, but then there was.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm dying to see Lisa Rana because we haven't gotten any Lisa Rana for a few years since she left Beverly Hills. She's amazing tv.

[Dorinda Medley]

Like, it's such a shame she's not on TV to me.

[Tamara Judge]

What housewives would you like to see go on Traders next?

[Dorinda Medley]

You know who I think would be great on Traders is Carol Rossiwell.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dorinda Medley]

She's like a living. You know, even when she would come to Booster Manor, she's constantly playing Clue. Like, she's just. She would be great.

[Tamara Judge]

She's very intelligent.

[Dorinda Medley]

Very intelligent. I. I also said I think she would be great. I actually think Luanne would be great on Traders.

[Tamara Judge]

She'd be entertaining, that's for sure.

[Dorinda Medley]

You know what I mean? She's just wandering around the castle, you know, just because she's such a character. She's authentically sell herself that I would just. Just love to see that. Who else? You know, it takes a certain type of people. Not that person. Not all Housewives are transferable to traders. I don't think you've got a lot.

[Wells Adams]

Of celebrity friends outside of housewives. I get asked this question a lot, too, of, like, who do you think would be really good on the show? Who do you think would be really good on the show that's not part of the Housewives family that you are friends with?

[Dorinda Medley]

You know what? I think they should have. They should have on, like, a famous chef because chefs are such great thinkers. We were talking about this before on your show. They're such great, like, they, you know, people think that chefs are sort of like these happy, go lucky. They're not. They're like, they maneuver. They're great thinkers. They're a little dark. They're a little roll. They're a little sinister. Every chef, like Jean George to me, would be great on it.

[Wells Adams]

Gordon Ramsay would be scary. Oh, that would be so fun.

[Dorinda Medley]

I think that. I think someone like Sarah Paulson would be great.

[Wells Adams]

Ooh, what politician do you think would be good on the show? I mean, I think all of them would be good because they're great at lying.

[Dorinda Medley]

But I think any of the people that are in office now, because they're also. It's sort of like we're in the world of traders right now. Traders and the Hunger Games, take a pick. We, you know, we.

[Tamara Judge]

You're not wrong.

[Dorinda Medley]

Why don't we just play? You know, it'd be great on Elon Musk. See, imagine him wandering around the castle.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, how much money he'd want to do that. And the time commitment. That's because I'm always thinking, like, it would be great to have, like, a list celebrities doing this as well, to see a different side of them, but none of them. It'd be so expensive to hire them. And then the time commitments.

[Dorinda Medley]

I mean, they've got all these Emmys, and they must be getting tons of, like, making more and more money now. You would think. What about Lisa Vanderpump? I thought she'd be good.

[Tamara Judge]

I just don't think she'd do it. Like, I know. Like, I know for a fact, like, I. Heather Dubrow would never do it. She just wouldn't do it. I just don't see her doing that. She's like, no way. The time commitments.

[Dorinda Medley]

You know, you have to go pretty rogue. You have to kind of be really open to.

[Tamara Judge]

And not everybody wants to do that.

[Dorinda Medley]

No. Well, I think Nene leaks would be great. I think at some point she was.

[Tamara Judge]

Didn't they ask her. Didn't they ask Nene and she turned it down or something? Or is that a rumor?

[Dorinda Medley]

I. I can't remember. I. I thought I heard that too. You know, as you guys know, they don't tell you anything. I know that people think that we know a lot before we go into it. But you don't.

[Tamara Judge]

No, we know nothing.

[Dorinda Medley]

You know who I think would be good is Lala.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, Lala would be great. Lala. I'm a big Lala fan, so Lala could do no wrong in my eyes.

[Dorinda Medley]

She's good at. She's a good little thinker on her feet.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yeah.

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[Dorinda Medley]

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[Dorinda Medley]

Who'S.

[Wells Adams]

Going to be the breakout star of season four, do you think? Who's gonna be the Dylan Efron of season four?

[Dorinda Medley]

What does that mean?

[Tamara Judge]

The sexy guy? Is there gonna be like a sexy guy that's always dude taking the baths, the showers to open his body up?

[Dorinda Medley]

I mean when I, when I walk in in the first day and saw that Rob Ro. Yeah. People. I mean, who's that?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't even know who that is.

[Dorinda Medley]

He is one of the people from Love Island. He doesn't really.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, they're all beautiful people.

[Dorinda Medley]

He's. He doesn't really speak but he's got. He's beautiful but yeah, he's very quiet. But there's.

[Tamara Judge]

He's beautiful but dumb as a box of rocks.

[Dorinda Medley]

No, he's not. Strangely, he's not dumb. He's just very quiet.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm joking. It was like Britney Spears is ex.

[Dorinda Medley]

And I think I got to tell you something, he would have fooled me on Love Island. I mean all he had, he could have said anything to me and I would have fallen for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean as soon as everybody saw him and he's kind of like the, the guy that. The outdoors guy. Kind of like overalls but very good.

[Tamara Judge]

Looking look kind of like Sam. This is name Sam Britney Spears.

[Dorinda Medley]

More rugged. Like he wrangles snakes and stuff. Like oh wow. I know already. You fall in love with Them.

[Wells Adams]

I wanted to ask you, you know, like, obviously you've made such good TV for a long time on Real Housewives and then. And now doing Traders for a second time. What do you think about the show Traders specifically that makes it such a good reality TV show?

[Dorinda Medley]

I think a. Because of the secrecy. I think it's amazing the way they keep thick veil of secrecy. People love that the production value is off the charts. Alan Cummings is just brilliant. I mean I was. Every time we walked through the door, I was excited to see them. And the way that they, they. The way that they create it is such an incredible exercise in human behavior and how conformity and how, you know, people quickly change and are willing to do things you never thought you would do. It's such an exercise in human nature. It's like that book that we all read growing up. The ones they're all put on the island and they all turn against each other.

[Wells Adams]

Lord of the Flies.

[Dorinda Medley]

Lord of the Flies. It becomes like a living lord, you know, it's like Lord of the Flies. And, and it's, it's. The psychology behind it to me is brilliant. It's like it's writable.

[Wells Adams]

Every show can be better now. Whether they are or they aren't going forward, that remains to be seen. What's one thing that the show could do to make it better?

[Dorinda Medley]

I just want to watch tv.

[Wells Adams]

Let us drink when we're happy.

[Tamara Judge]

We talk about this in quite a few episodes.

[Dorinda Medley]

Want to watch television?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they do. They do change television.

[Dorinda Medley]

I'm at the point because I don't got a man in my bed. I got that TV on.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh my God. But you know, they do change it up just a little bit every new season. And we've talked about this before and thought it'd be really cool if they didn't let the audience know who the traitors were.

[Dorinda Medley]

I agree with you. I think I don't understand that why they announced them so early. And not only just because why, but second of all because they know they're going to get murdered. So when people see you out, it's a way for people. The sluice and God knows the sleuths are so good now to figure it out. If they don't know, then they'll not know if you're back home or not.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[Wells Adams]

It would be so fun. I mean the editing would be hard, right. Because you have to choose what you want to use. And you could probably lead people down a path that was incorrect if you weren't exposing who the traders were to the audience. But I do think it would make for a really fun TV show, especially make it interactive. The. Well, the audience could then be like, voting. Like, I think it's so.

[Dorinda Medley]

I don't even think they should announce the cast so early on.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you know why they do that? They didn't do that in the very beginning, but it just leaks. Like, I started getting text messages while I was on the plane to Scotland saying, hey, I'm gonna let you know Dan is gonna be there. I heard Dan is there. Maybe it's a spotting. Maybe something on. Somebody saw him put on social media. Well, I don't know how people. But I'm like, who's Dan?

[Dorinda Medley]

I don't know who.

[Wells Adams]

Dan. Yeah. Dorinda, thank you so much for coming on. By order of the faithful.

[Tamara Judge]

Miss you.

[Wells Adams]

Will you promise to. Will you promise us right now that you'll come back on while the show's air.

[Dorinda Medley]

Absolutely. Then I can spill the beans.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I want that. Yeah.

[Dorinda Medley]

I wish you were in New York. We're gonna finally have dinner together. We've been promising each other we're gonna have dinner for years, and we haven't done it yet.

[Wells Adams]

We're gonna go to a Broadway show.

[Dorinda Medley]

He said New Yorker. Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

We're gonna go see my wife's show and then we're gonna go to dinner and we're gonna have a nice dancing.

[Dorinda Medley]

In front of me at the Macy's Day Parade. I'm like, wait a second.

[Wells Adams]

I know. I. She.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you get video? Did you get.

[Wells Adams]

Mary texted me and she was. Dorinda was there, and I was like, why didn't she go say hi to her guy? I just see it on my phone.

[Dorinda Medley]

I realized that it was going to be such a huge thing. When they were like, when Macy's invited me, I thought, okay, I'll go, I'll stop by. Meanwhile, they sent you that big, long itinerary and then breakfast and all these people were there. I was like, oh, this is like a real thing. Oh, yeah, like a real, real thing.

[Tamara Judge]

What this is cannot be the first time you were there.

[Dorinda Medley]

First time. I've never been in New York for Thanksgiving because I was. This is the first year I've never not hosted at Bluestone Manor. And I'm going to tell you something, folks. I'll never host again at Bluestone Manor. Thanksgiving, I am staying in New York City. But, Cameron, let me tell you a really funny story. Hannah left so hard, so I had to run to the bathroom, like, partway through. So I snuck out and, you know, said hi to people, but, you know, there's a lot. Everyone's focused on much bigger people than me. I thought, oh, okay. So it was gonna come out, and I. When I walked out, the crowd went crazy. So I start waving to the crowd to hold on, and the Grinch was walking behind me.

[Tamara Judge]

Hannah goes, oh, my God, mom, you're such a sucker.

[Dorinda Medley]

She goes, meanwhile, you're waving. Well, they're not excited about seeing me. Okay, now it's the Grinch.

[Tamara Judge]

You were upstage by the Grinch.

[Dorinda Medley]

Here he goes, mom, that is classic Durinda Methley.

[Wells Adams]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

Always a good story with you.

[Wells Adams]

All right, thank you, Dorinda. We love you.

[Tamara Judge]

We'll talk to you soon.

[Dorinda Medley]

I love you guys. Love you, too. Bye.

[Wells Adams]

Always fun to talk to Dorinda. I'm glad that she got to go back because I was so annoyed. Like, the television producer in me was very annoyed that I thought the biggest television star that we had on the show was kicked off of me.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you know. So you knew her before?

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. I mean, like, listen, I don't. No offense, I don't really watch Real Housewives shows. Like, that's more of my wife's bag. Yeah. But I knew who she was, you know? Like, it was almost like she is so big that she, like, kind of transcends that. That world. Lisa Renner is a good example of that as well. Like, I know that person. And I just remember thinking, you know, I watched season two, and Johnny Bananas got kicked out first, and I was like, it's so dumb. He makes such good tv. And then when she went out, I was like, it's so dumb. She makes such good tv. So I'm glad that she gets to go back.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

When I think that everybody that's gets let go the very first day should have a chance of going back. I like that they do that.

[Wells Adams]

They should have one season where it's just people kicked off first.

[Tamara Judge]

All the losers.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh.

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[Wells Adams]

Call it the. Yeah. They should. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they're gonna start getting creative. I mean, there's only so much talent out there when it comes to reality that they're going to be, like, resurfacing, recycling, you know, going back 50 years.

[Wells Adams]

And that's when I will make my triumphant return. Right? Yes. All right, everyone out there, thanks so much for listening to my order of the Faithfuls. If you're not following us on social media, please do. We're at by order. The Faithfuls on Instagram. Rate like comment, review if you can and tell your friends. And we are gearing closer to season four where we'll be doing the recap.

[Tamara Judge]

I cannot wait. Super excited for that.

[Wells Adams]

It's going to be super. So much fun. We'll be back again better than ever very, very soon. Thank you guys so much for listening and we'll see you soon.

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