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Sorority Life with your hosts Me, Gia.
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Welcome back to part two of our.
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The story that no one was ever.
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Supposed to talk about.
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Sorority Member 1
So for my sorority initiation, it was something that I never thought was a big deal at all. There was nothing to prepare for in my eyes. It was just on the calendar. And we had no acceptable excuses for missing this event. And I do know that some people missed and nothing happened to them. But when people on the board of my sorority would speak about things being unexcusable or you can't miss, it just.
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Felt like life or death.
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Sorority Member 1
Like if you couldn't make initiation, you were not going to see the next day. I don't know why. I think ever since being in the sorority, I just. It was really fun and bubbles and butterflies until at times it felt very culty. Which this initiation that I did is what really made me feel like it was very culty being a part of a sorority. I feel like the school and the sorority that I was in was very chill and relaxed and didn't really have that strict of rules. And. But then, you know, for this initiation, I was reminded that it was a sorority and that there's, you know, alumni and boards with people that are in their later ages that still create the rules for sorority. So it was just kind of like a. A realization moment for me for sure about like, what it means to be in a sorority. So our sorority initiation was on a Sunday, and I can't remember the timing of it, but I do remember they kind of gave us a list of things that we couldn't do the night before. We weren't allowed to go out, we were not allowed to go to the frat houses, we were not allowed to go on to the campus bars. So I think no one followed that because no one really took it seriously. Which, you know, ended up with some people having a pretty bad hangover the next day. And so essentially we were told to meet at the hotel of the town that our college was at, which was very bizarre. And we got there, we were instructed to wear nude undergarments and no makeup, hair down socks, which completely sealed in, like this is just weird. And so we arrived at the hotel, which felt really bizarre because it was a hotel that my family would stay at for family weekend or anytime they came to visit. And we were directed down to the basement of the hotel. And it was a pretty like old fashioned place, really cool. Definitely some ghost stories and people having weird stories from the rooms of the hotel. So we go down to the basement and it's just a room full of these white robes, which I've talked to my friends at other schools and they, you know, we were all kind of weirded out about it. So we see all these robes, very weird. And then we put them on. And we were instructed by our supervisors that we weren't allowed to speak. Once we arrived into the basement, which, I mean, we didn't really know what we were doing. We were kind of just following hands. Everyone was just shuffling around, trying to be quiet. Everyone was very hungover. And then we were led into this dark room with candles. And the older girls in our sorority were singing. And they were stand. They were standing in a line waiting for us to walk in. So we all sheepishly walked in. And for the actual ceremony part, which began with my president speaking in front of this designed. This plastic designed looking arch with a book in her hand. And to me I remember it as gibberish. I'm not sure if she was speaking English or Greek words, but she was reading passages while the older girls were singing. And I remember being really freaked out. Kind of like people were snickering around me. Everyone was kind of like looking all around. And then something kind of unusual happened. But a gal in my sorority had a service dog and her service dog was in there with us. And the dog actually was a little bit freaked out for some reason. I think it was on the younger side of being a service animal. And the dog got out of the collar and ran around the room and knocked over a couple of the candles. And so all of the girls had to stop singing and. And we had to, you know, contain the fire that the cute service dog wagged its tail on. So that was just kind of like rattled things up and brought the ceremony back to life, that it was just a sorority and nothing too culty or crazy. But then finished, our bigs were seated by us, which was cool. And then some people had their moms in there, which I was like, wow, everyone's in on it. And then we finished. Everyone went outside, kind of gathered with my friends, and we were all like wondering how much longer we were going to be a part of sorority life. And then realized that the initiation part was kind of the only thing that was bizarre and that being in a sorority can be fun, except being initiated is so weird. So that's my initiation story.
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Sorority Member 2
I was rushing during in 2020 during COVID at a pretty big school. And so going into it, I knew I wanted to rush because everything was enclosure and I wanted to meet new friends and girls, obviously. So I remember, at least during the summer, me going into it, I wasn't really, like, keeping up with what the top sororities were, what their reps were. I kind of was just going with the flow. But I remember over the summer, like, the top sorority, like, followed me on Instagram, and I didn't really think much of it. And at least now looking back, I know that's like, definitely not what you're supposed to do. Like, you're not supposed to interact with any of the PNM's, especially, like, before Rush. So they started following me, and they even, like, followed me on Think, like vsco. And that was, like, in my Instagram bio at the time. And so I signed up for Rush. Everything was, like I said on Zoom during quarantine, which in a way, looking back at it, I'm glad it was that way because I don't think I could ever do the 12 hours a day in heels and dresses. But it was definitely interesting. At least over Zoom did that. And I remember, like, every time I would get called back for said sorority that reached out to me on Instagram, the president would always join the Zoom call. And that definitely, like, put me on edge, for better or for worse. Because if the president's listening in on every time that you're joining the house, it was clear that they wanted me to join. And so I actually put said sorority as my second pref, not my first pref. And I got them. So I was part of the sorority immediately. It was very forced. At least with quarantine, it's kind of hard to make everything feel natural. No one really knows what they're doing. But I remember one of our first sisterhood events was like a sleepover. So we didn't actually sleep over, which was very contradictory to the name. But what the sleepover entailed was we all sat in a giant circle upstairs and we passed around.
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Sorority Member 3
And we each.
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Sorority Member 2
Had to share a really traumatic story. And this was part of the, I guess, bonding. And keep in mind, we don't know any of the anyone else in our pledge class because we don't get interactions at least, like, outside of Zoom. I think this was one of the first, like, in person events, and everyone was passing around this teddy bear and staring like a really sad story. And it took, like, three hours. And after that, I was like, I don't want to go to another sisterhood event. This was not only depressing, but don't really feel any closer to anyone in my sorority whatsoever. So I just didn't go. And my exec really did not like that, which makes sense. My exec did not like me because I didn't go to the sisterhood events or a lot of the exchange events. But this was because also at the exchange events, we would sing really, really outrageous songs. I even have some of them, like, saved. I don't know if I can read them, because it does give away the name of the sorority. But we'd sing these really raunchy songs, essentially. And I was so comfortable, like, singing the song. It was basically like, I remember one of the lines was like. It was like me and put it in my mouth, like. And we had to stand there and, like, sing it in front of all these frat guys. So I didn't go to any of the exchanges or much of the sistered events. And I remember when I would go to the chapter meetings, the rules would.
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Be.
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Sorority Member 2
Boobs or butt, not both. And that's they're talking about when you go to a party, you can't show nothing, but you can't show both. So some girls would choose to flaunt their boobs, and the other girls chose to flaunt their butt, but you can't show both. And immediately, it just felt very, like, sexualized and uncomfortable. And along with the fact that I didn't know any of these girls, it was just essentially like the exec board who are girls a year or two older than us, barking at us, telling us what to sing about our bodies and, like, what to wear to these parties. And I remember one of the even first chapter events was we don't call them frat boys. We call them fraternity men. Like, we was correcting our verbiage on, like, the smallest things. Okay, so our initiation ceremony was over Zoom. And I remember it was, like, during. I want to say, like, winter or Thanksgiving break. So I was at home doing this break, this zoom from my room from home. And at least during the initiation, you know, you have the candles, you have the robes. That was all on zoom. So I'm pretty sure it was just, like, a candle background and just pressing through slideshows. And this actually is helping me remember what the pref and bid process was. It was through an Email and like it was just congrats, confetti across your screen. So it was very anti climactic and you didn't like meet anyone that was. I didn't know anyone in my pledge class until come the next year when we did recruitment and I was on the other end. We had to stalk every girl, come up with a list of like top ones, middle ones that we wanted to recruit for the sorority over the summer. So that definitely coincides with at least my experience coming in as a freshman over the summer, the sorority following me. So they do. It's already like curated having a list of like their top choices and they would really go for girls with like big following or like girls that had a really good Instagram. It wasn't necessarily based on like values obviously because you can't really depict someone's values from the Instagram. So it was very materialistic and like 2D, in a way it was very shallow. And I think that just goes back to the fact that we all had to pass around this and tell a sad story. We could opt to pass, but it was only like max 5 passes, I'm pretty sure.
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Sorority Member 3
Okay. From what I remember of my initiation ceremony story, it was a long time ago, but I remember we spent the night at the sorority house. Kind of everybody who was in the house left and so we were all in rooms. I remember us being. Trying to be silly and like trying to make pranks so they couldn't wake us up so early. Because they were waking us up at. I think they got rid of all the clocks so we couldn't see. But I think it felt like 4am we were getting woken up at. And so we like set like water cups all up the stairs. So like it took the, the active members longer to get to us, which didn't end up working out super well, but we thought it was funny anyways. I remember waking up super early. I think we all probably got an hour or two of sleep. And so you just feel like you're in a haze and have no idea what kind of what's happening on they. And this is where I kind of remember some things, but I remember putting on a robe, kind of being either blindfolded or my eyes were closed something and I went into a room and I joined a sorority that I was a legacy at. So my older sister was in the same sorority at the same school. And so I remember just like opening my eyes to her being there. She was super emotional and I kind of was just like, what is happening? Like this is Almost a little, like, creepy seance. Like, what is happening? I was just like, had no idea. I didn't know she was gonna be there. But also being off, lack of sleep. And I'm a contagious crier. So I saw her crying. So I started crying, and I was just like. There was so much which I didn't understand at the time. Just very, like, all these, like, rituals and things being said that I just was like, I don't know what's happening later. Leave that room. So at that point, it was just me and anybody else who was a legacy. So there was a small group of people in this one room being revealed with whoever their legacy was, our family member that was a part of the same sorority. And then later being brought into a different room that was much bigger where my big sister was. And this is where things aren't super clear. It just was, like, really dark. Everyone was in robes. And I don't even remember the traditional things that happened. I remember my big being behind me and then my blood sister, who I'm a legacy of being behind her to initiate us. But the one thing I actually really remember the most from this is that college game day from ESPN was at our school this week for our big football game. And all of our friends were going at, like, 5am to stand out for college game day. And we could not go because it was initiation. So I just honestly remember wanting it to be over so that I could go get dressed and go to the football game and be with all the friends partying for college game day. So looking back now, I'm like, I wish I would have thought a little bit more of it as sentimental, but I was. I was just ready for a good time. And so it was emotional, especially, I think more so because my sister was there, and she was just so happy and excited that I had chosen the exact same house that she had gone through. And that honestly was, like, the most memorable and biggest surprise to me because I did not know she was going to be there. So that was super special to have them that with her. And then I. I mean, I don't remember. I think we all just, like, after the ritual, things happen that I cannot for the life of me remember. For some reason, I think we were just so tired. I was like, let's get to this football game. And me and so many of our. My initiation class at that point just left or, like, went and got ready together and went to the game. And so it was. It was really fun, and it was. It had memorable parts but it was also a little, I don't want to say creepy, but it was a little creepy and kind of trying to be like what is this? It's so early. Where are we? So it was a lot of emotions all over the place. I remember that.
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Sorority Member 4
I was in a sorority. I had a choice. There were five sororities in my college, and for me, it was between two, but I decided just to pick one, and I matched there. So that was my choice. And so it was called a suicide bid, where you just pick one. If you don't get in that one, you're not in a sorority. So I just picked one. Really excited about it. And we had a really beautiful mascot that I really loved and appreciated. Just the. The sweet gals that I was with. The initiation, the main thing I remember is we walked in, we had candles. It's kind of candles that you hold with a little thing under it. And we had white robes and walked into a dark room with just some candles around the sides and very quiet, very solemn, like a ritual. And then we all went into a circle, and we had our pledge moms behind us. So they were, like, supporting us, holding, you know, holding on, holding on to us in the circle, in the dark with our candles. And then. They all started singing around us because they were all around us, too. So we felt really safe in this room. And they all sang the song, the main song, which was for the sorority. And then the president of the sorority started speaking about the importance of getting together and the importance of our group and importance of our sorority, and that we were basically in this, you know, for our lives. And it just. It meant a lot to me.
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Sorority Member 4
Details because it was so long ago. It was in the 1970s, so it was years and years ago. And I've had a whole life since, since then, and a whole career and family. But I do remember the solemnness of it and the importance. And I did feel like this was something I was going to do for my life, that this was. This was a group of women that I was going to be with for my life. And so I'm still in my alumni group. I still. We still have meetings. And it has continued to be an important thing. Not just the one thing, but an important part of my life. And at my school, because I was in a department that was more creative, I was the only person that was even interested in being in a sorority. My roommates were not in sororities. They used to just kind of joke with me about that I wanted to do it, and I knew I wanted to do it. There wasn't going to be anything that was going to stop me from being in this group because I wanted to have a full college experience. And so once we went through the initiation and once we ended that beautiful circle and we sang the songs, and it was just joining a sisterhood, a sisterhood that for me has lasted my whole life with different women. And we've all been through the same experience together. We all know our ritual. We all know the reason that we're in this group and the beginnings of the sorority and the importance of sisterhood and being supportive of each other.
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So what I do remember is they locked us all in a basement, all of the pledges in a basement. It was like an overnight thing. And we had to take a quiz on the history of our sorority, and we couldn't come out of the basement until we passed the test. And then I remember the initiation was just like a full, like, all overnight thing. And then in the morning, they. We came upstairs and all of the, you know, like, the sorority sisters were dressed in, like, all these, like, white, like, long gowns, but they weren't like dresses. They were like sheets almost. It was kind of strange.
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Sorority Member 1
And.
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We had to go in three at a time to this room. And then they closed the door once everybody was in, and you sat, like, face to face with your big. What wound up being your big sis. I remember we kneeled face to face and there was a bunch of, like, Latin kind of like chanting things, like songy sort of chants. And then the president got up and spoke and gave us the password. And then we learned the handshake. And then we kind of like, it was very somber and serious. And then we all filed out after that. And then I really don't remember much else after that. I also think it was a long night, so I was probably tired.
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