← Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
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Teddi Mellencamp
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Teddi Mellencamp
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Tamra Judge
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Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Two T's in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
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Tamra Judge
Hi guys.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. You know what? I didn't even change it even all this time I still said what you didn't want me to say.
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Tamra Judge
What?
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Teddi Mellencamp
Hi. Another episode of Two T's in a Pod. And Teddy Mellicamp and Tamara Judge.
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Tamra Judge
You could say it all you want. I miss hearing you say it.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I'm going to say something before we get into all my shit. What are you doing, Tamra? I go, I get some brain tumors, and then you decide to quit the show. Oh, God. So embarrassing.
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Tamra Judge
Listen, listen, listen. I'm doing the best I can do. I'm just at a situation.
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Teddi Mellencamp
By quitting, I'm just having a quitter.
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Tamra Judge
I know. And it's hard for me to say this to you because you're going through something extremely hard, and you're giving me such motivation. But right now, all the things I'm going through, and then on top of you, I'm just struggling. Well, I'm struggling.
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Teddi Mellencamp
We're gonna unstruggle pretty soon because I can't be, you know, I can't be the one fighting here all the time, doing all the things, and then not be able to make fun of you when I recap OC next season. Like, this is not fair. This is rude. Of all the times to quit. Like, so me and Erica are gonna recap the show without you on it, and I'm gonna have to say she's a quitter.
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Tamra Judge
Well, I don't ever want to be a quitter, but sometimes your mental health is a little bit more important than the dollar.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Well, weird, because I'm here right now.
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Tamra Judge
But you push through things and you continue to act like everything's okay on when you do your stories and you tend to poke fun and joke of your situation and act like I'm okay. And that's good, because I think that's the journey, drive, and desire you need moving forward. For sure.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. I mean, I think I can say I've had some of my darkest, saddest days since the 12th when this happened. But leading up to it, it's so wild. What kind of transpired to kind of get us here. Because, I mean, I was at a horse show. I remember going to my friend Nicole. I'm like, I have the worst migraine I've ever had in my entire life.
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Tamra Judge
This is before we went to New Orleans, right? Yeah.
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Teddi Mellencamp
This is before we went to New Orleans. We had just done a pod where I was kind of, like, all over the place, and I remember not being able to remember how to say certain words, and I was like, that's weird. You know, Like, I just kind of Got to that place, and then I went to my friend Nicole. I'm like, I must have a migraine. I've never had one. And she was like, oh, sometimes that happens to people when they're going through menopause. And I was like, how dare her? I was like, well, you might be right. I'm like, but either way, do you have any? Because she always has migraines. I'm like, do you have any migraine medication? And she's like, yes. So then I took it, and then I started, like, shaking really bad at the horse show. And then when I was at the show, I was riding and I didn't know where. I was like, I would. Like, when you're going to. Like, part of riding is finding the distance and, like, picking exactly where you want your horse to lead, which, by.
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Tamra Judge
The way, is very dangerous that you were riding and weren't stable.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I didn't know I wasn't stable. And now it's not dangerous because I'm in a good place. But I just felt this weird way. I mean, I still. I remember being so pissed that I was second and third. I was like, ugh. I rode like crap. Like, what is wrong with me? And so that was kind of the start of it. And the next day, I felt the same. And then I came and met you, and we went to New Orleans.
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Tamra Judge
Yes.
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Teddi Mellencamp
We got in a fight.
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Tamra Judge
Yes. Yes. We got a little argument. I've noticed a change in you in the past six months. I feel you have pulled away a little bit. I thought you were mad at me. I noticed when we were doing podcasts together, you were very short. You wanted to get through the rundown really quick. You didn't really want to chat about it. And I called you and I asked you, and you literally weren't even aware. You're like, what?
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. No, I wasn't. No, I. I remember it's always very, like, patchy in my memory at this point. And then I was in such extreme. I remember being in such extreme pain when we left for New Orleans.
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Tamra Judge
I don't know how you pushed through that.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Like, I could barely walk. I couldn't see every second that we weren't, you know, filming. I was. I would have to lay in the bed. I remember you were like, why don't you want to go out? Why don't you want to do this? I didn't want to do anything. Like, I was in extreme, excruciating pain in my head.
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Tamra Judge
And you were taking Advil.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
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Tamra Judge
And was working. We, you know, after we. We had a tight schedule. Like, we landed, we got there, we started podcasting, we had guests. Then we got glammed. And during glam, you hit a wall, and you're like, I don't wanna do this. I don't wanna do. And I'm like, what?
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. I'm like, I don't wanna go to the party.
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Tamra Judge
I don't wanna do this. I wanna do this. And. And I said, yeah, come on. You're gonna do that?
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
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Tamra Judge
And I was like, something's not right.
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Teddi Mellencamp
I was so. I would say I was so edgy. And what ended up coming out was we got through. We got through the weekend, we had fun. And then I got home, and I went and had plans with a friend. And that night, I was like, I feel terrible. I don't know what to do. And then the next day, I came. We did the podcast together. And then the next day, as we're starting the podcast, like, I start crying to you guys, and I'm like, I can't do it today. I'm sorry.
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Tamra Judge
I told you, I go, you need to go to the hospital. You need to go to the hospital.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
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Tamra Judge
And then Edwin took you to the hospital.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. So then I. I honestly didn't know what to do because clearly, you know, everything in my life is upside down. And so I called my friend Val, actually, and I started, like, sobbing to her, and I'm like, I need you to take me to the hospital right now. I think I'm dying. I can't see. I can't walk. I can't even get out of bed. And she was like, I'm with another friend at a doctor's appointment. So then I called Edwin, and Edwin took me to the hospital. At this point, I still thought they were gonna tell me, you have migraines. Like, you have severe migraines. Edwin had thought because one of his best friends had had a brain hemorrhage, he thought that might have been what it is. Because the part that's confusing to everybody is I didn't complain about a headache to anybody. But my friend Nicole in New Orleans.
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Tamra Judge
You were telling me your head was hurting, but prior to that, I never heard a word about your head hurting.
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Teddi Mellencamp
But my head had been hurting for, like, six months. But I was like, why did you ignore it? I think because so much. So much bad stuff was going on right then that I didn't want to face any of it. And I was like, I just need to keep moving forward, and if I keep moving forward, then everything's going to be fine anywhere in you.
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Tamra Judge
Did you think that something was really, like, the cancer had come back, or.
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Teddi Mellencamp
No, because I had just gone from my checkup, and so I had gone for my checkup already, and. And I was cleared, and it was the first time in three years that I didn't have any melanoma. Skin melanoma.
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Tamra Judge
Yeah. Right.
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Teddi Mellencamp
So my skin check went well. Then I. Edwin takes me to the emergency room. He thinks it's a brain hemorrhage. We.
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Tamra Judge
Wait, that makes sense, because you kept telling me while you're in the hospital that your brain was bleeding.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
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Tamra Judge
Like, I. I'm like, where is she getting this from?
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yes. And then I think Edwin pushed for me to have a CT scan right away, and that's when they realized I have over seven tumors. There was four.
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Tamra Judge
Four that were removed.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Four, but they weren't removed there. So there was four really large tumors that essentially. They said it's been happening for at least six months, and I didn't really understand what it meant. So we left. They took out my IVs, we left. We went to Cedars and then in Beverly Hills, and then it was all really a blur. Like, I.
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Tamra Judge
Well, it happened so fast. Yeah, it really did. Like, the way you told me and the group, I think it was. Yeah, it was just me. I don't know if it was just me or I was in the group text. But you. You said to me, you all thought I was mental, but actually, I'm on my deathbed.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Like, I remember feeling like this is actually it.
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Tamra Judge
Yeah. And I remember texting you back and said, no, you're not, because if you're on yours, then I'm on mine, because I can't live without you.
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Teddi Mellencamp
I mean, it was really, really hard at Cedars, and I got there, and the doctors immediately were able. I mean, this is incredible. But there was a doctor immediately able to give me. I had a craniotomy with tumor resection, which is where they removed four tumors from my brain. But what. The hardest part is that nobody wanted to tell me what was really happening because they were scared. And so I didn't know what was happening. Like, I thought I was fine. Like, I thought I could go home the next day. And, like, once the tumors are out, I thought I would be done. I. I can't even tell you guys. Like, I really didn't understand anything, and it was such a bummer. And then, honestly, it was like gangbusters. Every friend that I've had over the last 20 years, I know.
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Tamra Judge
Even high school friends.
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Teddi Mellencamp
My high school friends.
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Tamra Judge
I'm like, hey, I never heard about them.
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Teddi Mellencamp
My dad, my sister, my brother.
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Tamra Judge
I got to meet your dad.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Gosh, he was. He was a real gem.
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Tamra Judge
He was looking at me, he's like, who are you?
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Teddi Mellencamp
He. He wouldn't. He pretended he didn't know anybody's name. But he was really a godsend during this because I was wretched in the hospital. Wretched.
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Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
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Teddi Mellencamp
No sere quira di card.
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Tamra Judge
I think some of my favorite lines were when your sister said, can you see me, Teddy? Can you see me? This is after your surgery. I wasn't there. She just told me about it. And you said you opened your eyes and you go, unfortunately.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Well, guys, there was one day where I went, deep down, I think I might have been with my friend Kelly, where I went deep down the rabbit hole where I was telling everybody Heath Ledger is stalking me. He's here.
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Tamra Judge
You did.
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Teddi Mellencamp
And he is after me. I'm seeing him every single night. And it's just getting to be too much.
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Tamra Judge
Which, by the way, was scaring the shit out of all of us. Okay.
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Teddi Mellencamp
So. Got transferred into the neuro ICU after.
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Tamra Judge
So I guess after your drain was bent.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, so after I had my brain surgery, I guess. And they took out the tumors, what they wanted to happen didn't happen. So then they had to transfer me into the icu.
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Tamra Judge
They took out some of the tumors.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. But then I was put on all this medication and it. Honestly, I couldn't freaking tell you who came, who I spoke to, what happened.
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Tamra Judge
I think it's also the trauma of, you know, digging around in your brain. Like you mess around in there and you get done with brain surgery, it takes a while for your brain to heal. And you were having swelling problems and fluid problems. So they went in and they were going. They put a drain in. And then in icu, your last day in icu, we all got the call, which was really hard, that we were all in a group text message, I should say. And it was. They were going to put, I think a shunt or something in because of the swelling in your brain. And so you kept seeming like you're going backwards and not forward. And so we were all like, 4:00 in the morning, we all knew you were going to get a scan. 7:00, you're going to go into surgery. And I woke up to the best news of my life that day. When they said, she's turned a corner. Like, she's not having the surgery, she's not having a shunt. The swelling's starting to go down. And I'm like, thank you, Jesus. Like, we're finally. Because for, I don't know, a week and a half, it was just all so scary and touchy. And sometimes we, you know, I'd see you and you would be completely out, and you. Every once in a while, you'd hear conversations going around, and you jump into the conversation, or you were funny, or you're like, you know, Kyle was there one day, and you say, kyle goes. You hated the question. What year is it?
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Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, my gosh.
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Tamra Judge
Guys hated it.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Every single. I swear, this was like torture. Every single day. She'd come in and she'd go, hi, Teddi. What's the date today? And I'd be like, ask me things. I know.
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Tamra Judge
Yes. Ask me Angelina Jolie's kids names.
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Teddi Mellencamp
I said, ask me Angelina's kids names.
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Tamra Judge
And then anything, pop culture or housewives. I'm on it. I was like, I don't know how old I am.
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Teddi Mellencamp
I may not know how old I am or what year. And then I kept thinking it was 1995. And then I started cheating. And I would write down the date on the wall.
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Tamra Judge
They wrote it down. You would not write it down. But they sabotage me.
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Teddi Mellencamp
And they wouldn't update it. So then I couldn't get the date again. So then I was like. And in my mind, even though I was wrong because nobody was telling me, I thought that I could get out once I knew the date. And I would tell Kelly, I'd be like, once I get the date, they're going to let me out. And the only day that I got the date right was Dove's birthday. And then this one day, I looked at whoever. I mean, every day there was a friend with me. I didn't spend one second alone.
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Tamra Judge
You have a great group of girls that are surrounded by. You really do.
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Teddi Mellencamp
But one day I was like, hey, I don't know why it feels so important, but I need to call my friend Brooke from third grade. I think it's her birthday today.
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Tamra Judge
What?
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Teddi Mellencamp
And at this point, I couldn't even die on my phone. Remember, I couldn't pick. I couldn't call people.
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Tamra Judge
Well, we. They purposely tried to keep your phone Away from you.
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Teddi Mellencamp
They tried to keep my phone away from.
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Tamra Judge
I will tell you this. You didn't know what day it was. You know, what date it was. You were kind of in and out, but you wanted so badly to post on social media.
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Teddi Mellencamp
But I. The weird part was I knew that I was like, I got to call Brooke. So I called Brooke. I'm like, hey, I don't know if I'm right because I haven't been right in 15 days, but I think today's your birthday. And she started crying, and she was like, it is.
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Tamra Judge
Wow.
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Teddi Mellencamp
She's like, you are the one person that has always remembered it.
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Tamra Judge
That is crazy.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
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Tamra Judge
That is just crazy.
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Teddi Mellencamp
And then what happened? I'm trying to think. Then a bunch of other shit went down. And then there was also. Which I still have. There's like. I had. I spray painted it today. But, like, there's a big hole right here from your drain from one of the surgeries. And, like, the back of my head right here, there's a big, huge, long scar.
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Tamra Judge
Two of them.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. And I kept wanting to touch them. So then they put me in fricking restraints. Hand restraints. And I got to tell you, me and hand restraints, we're not friends. I didn't take the hand restraints. Well, I would try to rip my hands out of them, and then I would. I mean, there. Guys, I know that I make everything seem pretty good and peachy, but it was a bad 17 days for everyone in my life. Um, and the fact that my. My dad helped me and that he's still helping me.
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Tamra Judge
Yeah.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Has really been a game changer. And then.
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Tamra Judge
You graduated from restraints, though.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
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Tamra Judge
Then to boxing gloves thing.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Then after I got the restraints off, then I got little boxing gloves, which were little, like, white things, so that I could just kept, like, little mittens.
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Tamra Judge
They weren't little. They were big.
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Teddi Mellencamp
They were big.
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Tamra Judge
They were big. Looked like big old boxing gloves, but they were white. I mean, they could have come in a color at least.
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Teddi Mellencamp
They could have, like, tie dyed them.
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Tamra Judge
I know.
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Teddi Mellencamp
I mean, then they told me I was getting out. So according to one of my nurses, what I was being told and what I thought was gonna happen wasn't the same thing. So then I got really upset. I kept thinking I was gonna be able to leave. I was really upset that I wasn't gonna be home for Dev's birthday. I was really sick of being in the hospital. And this isn't a complaint. It's just like, there's things you don't even think about that are happening in the hospital. Like, there was a guy next to me, and every night he would scream, help me. And I'd be like, I can't even help myself. I can't even help myself.
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Tamra Judge
That's why maybe ICU wasn't that bad because you had your own room, your own nurse, and you had the, you know, 24 hour eyes on you.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, but I was still had rage in the ICU because I couldn't figure out how to use the TV or the phone. So I just laid there. And then every day I'd be like, do I get to go? And I would harass the doctor because I had a cell number. Every day I'd be like, can I go? And people would say, if you pass this test, then you can go. But I never passed the test. I was on a sodium drip. They made me take these disgusting sodium pills that I throw up every day when I chuck.
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Tamra Judge
Then it got to the point where the nurse says, we'd like to get you up to go to the bathroom. No, thank you. Scared. No, thank you. Scared. And I went, okay. So then four hours go by, I'm still there. Then you go, you start ripping things off. And I go, what are you doing? You go. The nurse said I have to get up. And I'm like, okay, but wait for her. You can't just get up. I have to go to the bathroom. And I'm like, okay, hold on, hold on. So everybody leaves. Shut the door. And you yell, I pooped.
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Teddi Mellencamp
I pooped.
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Tamra Judge
And you start yelling that. And I'm like, great. But you go, but I can't pee.
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Teddi Mellencamp
I couldn't pee, guys. I do not know why I could not pee. So finally I just had to look at them and I'm like, just put a catheter in. I'm fine with it.
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Tamra Judge
And they were worried about doing that constantly because of UTI infections.
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Teddi Mellencamp
I was like, I don't care about a uti. I can't pee.
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Tamra Judge
Oh, yes, you do it last thing you'd want. On top of everything.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Listen, at least I would have readily ready medication to clear it up. But then we finally get out. Well, so then I get so upset that I started saying dramatic things about why I needed to get out. And it started concerning everybody, but nobody told me that they were concerned because everybody was scared of me.
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Tamra Judge
I wonder why.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Everyone was scared of me. And then one day, I remember I had just thrown up like 85 times from the stupid salt pills that I hate that I still had to take for two Weeks after I got out of the icu. But essentially what happened was I begged my dad. I'm like, dad, can you please let me go into, like, a post care center? Like, where they go when, like, people get plastic surgery? Like, I'm not doing well.
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Tamra Judge
The nurse full time.
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Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Like, I'm not doing well in here. I'm coming unhinged. I'm losing sense of.
- [26:56]
Tamra Judge
And you were in there, was it. It was over two weeks, right? Yeah, over two weeks. You were in there and I think.
- [27:01]
Teddi Mellencamp
Originally in the icu.
- [27:03]
Tamra Judge
And between the two. Yeah, between the two is over two weeks.
- [27:07]
Teddi Mellencamp
Yep. And then once I got out of Cedars, then I got to be with a nurse and, like, a little hotel, and things were a lot better. But I got really, really sad, I.
- [27:21]
Tamra Judge
Think, at that moment, because I've talked to you prior to that and, you know, and saw you in the hospital. But after you got to the hotel, we were able to talk on the phone. It was like, really the first time. And I think it was then when you. Your Everything, your memory's coming back a little bit better. You're really acknowledging what's going on. And that was the moment that I was dreading, because then you knew what was going on with you.
- [27:48]
Teddi Mellencamp
Once I understood, then I got really sad. And then, God bless all my friends. But everybody wanted to come visit me, and, like, I'm not somebody that likes people to visit me. Like, I want to just. So it was like every day, I don't be. Like, I booked so and so to come, and I was like, I will honestly get out of this bed somehow and kill you if you invite one more person over to visit me.
- [28:13]
Tamra Judge
I think everybody was afraid of you being alone.
- [28:16]
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. So then when I was in the hotel, I found out that I have two more tumors in my lungs, one in each lung, and then I had more in my. Three more, I think, in my brain, but they were too risky to remove. So then I was told that I was going to have immunotherapy. And then. So I went and had my immunotherapy yesterday, which I feel absolutely terrible today. Like, I have the worst headache, and I'm like, I feel back to how I felt at the beginning and. But what I learned, which I'm so grateful for, for one of my nurses, she told me, the fact that you're in pain right now is huge. It's great because it means that it's attacking the cancer.
- [29:10]
Tamra Judge
Yeah. I wanted you to cancel today. I didn't want you to do this. And you, you insisted on you were gonna be okay. Cause I knew that last night was tough on you. You didn't feel well at all. And I'm so worried because you don't know. You don't know how to say no. And you just keep going. You're the only person that I know that had brain surgery. And three weeks later, I was doing hot yoga and walking on the treadmill. I had a damn forehead lift. I couldn't do anything for two weeks. I'm like, you scare me because I want you to slow down and you so badly want to get back to normal life. And I, I get that completely. But we don't want you to feel like you have to do this. Like, your family is here. Your I heart family is here. And they are here for you. I am here for you as your friend. Like, you don't have to push through. It's all right.
- [30:04]
Teddi Mellencamp
I think what you guys don't understand about me in general is what gives me life is doing things that I love. Like, I love riding horses. I love doing the podcast. I love being able to be with you.
- [30:18]
Tamra Judge
You almost broke the damn Internet riding the horse.
- [30:20]
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. Like, I love working out. And I. Every single thing that I've done, I've asked my doctor permission. I know you know, but guess what I'm not allowed to do. Not bummed about this. Not allowed to drive.
- [30:35]
Tamra Judge
Oh, by the way, pre brain tumors, you shouldn't drive. Let's be honest, nobody wants to drive with you.
- [30:47]
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- [31:48]
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- [32:24]
Teddi Mellencamp
Una.
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Teddi Mellencamp
The.
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Tamra Judge
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- [33:24]
Teddi Mellencamp
Something a lot of people have been confused by when they hear like brain tumors or lung tumors or anything like that is they're thinking it's something other than melanoma. But what can actually happen is melanoma can metastasize and to other organs, to your other organs. And that's what happened to me. So all of my tumors and whatnot are melanoma. But yesterday is when I went and got my immunotherapy and as I'm sitting there, the doctor comes in and I'm like, you know, whatever, trying to be nice. And I hate having small talk with people about my illness because I just want to feel better and be back to normal. And he's like, so radiation starts on Monday. And I was like, come again? I thought I was just doing I.
- [34:19]
Tamra Judge
Think you've been told about the radiation many times. I think you just don't remember because I knew way back when that your treatment plan was going to be some kind of immunotherapy and radiation. So you also like in the conversations I've had with you in the past week, you've never once mentioned anything with your lungs. And I'm like, I don't know if she remember.
- [34:40]
Teddi Mellencamp
I'm not going to be the one.
- [34:40]
Tamra Judge
To ask her about it. But I don't know.
- [34:42]
Teddi Mellencamp
I think my memory about anything other than the surgery is completely on point. So where the tumors and everything were in my brain, it temporarily can cause, you know, lack of memory and those types of things. But where I'm completely blessed and very, very excited is that, like, sometimes this happens to people and they have to relearn to walk, they have to relearn to talk. None of that is the case with me. I'm back to working out. I'm back to being with the kids. I'm allowed to do everything but drive. So for me, that's huge. And I need. For me, I need to be doing these things. Going into the horse show with Slate was one of the first times I felt happy in a long time.
- [35:37]
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
- [35:38]
Teddi Mellencamp
And being able to do this makes me happy. I don't like not being able to, like, do my job, but something that we've really been on top of because we talk to the doctors every single day, and believe me, my dad is freaking on it like no other, is that we're gonna listen to the doctors on what's too much, what's enough, and.
- [36:02]
Tamra Judge
You'Re gonna listen to your body, and.
- [36:03]
Teddi Mellencamp
I'm going to listen to my body. I mean, I think the fact that, like, I can sit and have this conversation shows massive improvement.
- [36:13]
Tamra Judge
Oh, yeah. And you're getting better every day. Like, all that is temporary from surgery. Like, you're getting better. I'm like, you are loads better right now than you were a couple days ago. You know, we can sit on the phone and have normal conversations. On the phone?
- [36:28]
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah. I didn't want to talk on the phone to people. I did not want to talk on the phone to people. But, yeah, that's where we are. Guys, I'm feeling really positive. I have radiation starting Monday for a week, and then immunotherapy is every three weeks. That's just one day. They have to spread it out because immunotherapy. I didn't realize this, but immunotherapy can hit you a little harder than radiation. But, I mean, I know this has been a long podcast and it's been heavy topics, but the main point of this is I wish the second that I felt those headaches, I wish the second that I started not feeling like myself, I would have gone to the doctor and gotten checked.
- [37:19]
Tamra Judge
That's why you have to listen to your body. You have to.
- [37:22]
Teddi Mellencamp
But I think it's, you know, when you're going through a lot of different changes, you make a lot of justifications.
- [37:32]
Tamra Judge
Or your life gets busy and, you know, you don't want to take the time to go into the doctor or, you know, it's just, it's just life in general and going through divorce and moving from house to house and doing all those things. You didn't think about it. You thought you were just going to push through it and it was going to be okay.
- [37:50]
Teddi Mellencamp
I mean, I think it's pretty cool, though, that I figured it out. Like, I. If I would have waited any longer, God knows what would have happened. You know, Like, I knew that day I needed to go. And then I had surgery a day later. You know, like that.
- [38:08]
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
- [38:09]
Teddi Mellencamp
That was when I got to the point where I couldn't go anymore. I knew it. And so I'm really grateful. And I think that moving forward, you know, I've. I've changed a lot of things. And in my life, I think that's.
- [38:29]
Tamra Judge
A really big thing for you.
- [38:30]
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah.
- [38:31]
Tamra Judge
Is that you have to take time for yourself and you don't have to do everything. I know your schedule is the most important thing in your life and you want to be able to. I'm doing this, this, this, this, this, like right now, going through treatment like it's okay to lay in bed, it's okay not to feel good. I know you want to get back to normal life and that your drive right there. You'll be fine, girl. I have no doubt you are going to be fine because you just keep going. And you are probably the strongest person I've ever met in my life. In my life. I have not even been to the gym in four weeks and I can't eat. You know, and you're the one going through it. So I just admire you.
- [39:09]
Teddi Mellencamp
Thank you.
- [39:10]
Tamra Judge
So many levels. And I love you so much.
- [39:12]
Teddi Mellencamp
I love you too. And I really, really missed you. And I, I, I never freaking thought that I would be sad not to talk about Shep's jacked up relationship with the chick from Sienna. I cannot. Even from the hospital. I had to text Shep. I was like, what are you doing? This is embarrassing. This is embarrassing. And he's like, you don't know the full story. And I go, I don't need to know the full story because what I saw. No, but I need to get back into recapping. I'm excited. I still don't know the date today. Do you know, Tam, what's the date?
- [39:52]
Tamra Judge
11Th, maybe the 12th, I'm not sure. 12th? Yeah. Yeah, I know. And all in due time, you know, you just, you, you don't know how, you know, tomorrow is. So we are here for you. I am here for you. You can get on the pod. I'LL be more than happy again the pod with you. I can't wait till you're back full time. But just know that you don't have to push it. You don't.
- [40:13]
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, you have to push it.
- [40:15]
Tamra Judge
Oh, God.
- [40:16]
Teddi Mellencamp
Because I.
- [40:19]
Tamra Judge
Why? You gonna come film with me?
- [40:21]
Teddi Mellencamp
I am not saying that. I am saying that I. Personally, I already get shit for being biased. I don't want to have to go through a whole season of justifying why Tamara quit because of fricking lunatics like. No, no, no. You're gonna have to get that together, and I'll figure it out.
- [40:45]
Tamra Judge
I'm just. It's not about me right now. What I'm going through is what I'm going through. It's about you.
- [40:50]
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, no.
- [40:51]
Tamra Judge
Oh, geez.
- [40:52]
Teddi Mellencamp
No, no.
- [40:53]
Tamra Judge
Here we go.
- [40:54]
Teddi Mellencamp
Listen, this is to tease in a pod. And I talked a lot about me today, so I'm gonna mention.
- [41:00]
Tamra Judge
I mean, definitely you haven't helped my situation out a little bit, but. But it's not all you.
- [41:05]
Teddi Mellencamp
It's.
- [41:05]
Tamra Judge
It's a. A multitude of things that are going on in my life right now that Making it really hard for me to. Well, I'd like to. Housewife.
- [41:14]
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I'd like to see those things play out on camera, because that's actually what the housewives are about, is seeing things play out on camera when times are tough. So, Tam.
- [41:27]
Tamra Judge
Yes. Yes.
- [41:28]
Teddi Mellencamp
You guys, I don't think. I don't know what's going to end up happening, but if Tam goes back, everybody can send me flowers. You also need to get back on the horse.
- [41:38]
Tamra Judge
Yes. Well. Hey, wait a minute. How is this turning on me? Geez.
- [41:43]
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I told you I was feeling better.
- [41:45]
Tamra Judge
I know, I know, I know, I know. Can I ask you a serious question that we haven't really talked about too much, maybe. How are you really feeling? Like, mentally? Like, are you. I know you're so strong on the exterior. I know you are. I know that's who you are. I'm somebody that acts like that all the time. And I'm just in the past, you know, I don't know. Few weeks, I'm crumbling inside.
- [42:11]
Teddi Mellencamp
I would say that I'm doing significantly better. It was so. I can't. When I. When I didn't have, like, my wits about me, and I felt lost. I felt so alone and so sad and, like, I had moments of being, like. I don't know that anyone's, like, given me, like, a real hug, you know, like, there's. You know, I'm. I was really really sad. But I feel like right now I'm starting to see the light and I'm starting to think about the future. And I feel like for the first time I'm able to set goals. And for me, a lot of shitty things have happened in my life that I haven't talked about. You know, I'm not one to, like, stew and, like, the past, but this definitely was a wake up call. And, you know, there's certain things that I'm really grateful about, like, you know, me and Edwin being friends, being able to laugh, being able to have him there. But also, I would say, just living in general, you know?
- [43:35]
Tamra Judge
You're a fighter. You're gonna get through this.
- [43:37]
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, I think so, too. Oh, I need my hair to grow out.
- [43:42]
Tamra Judge
I think you're rocking the bald.
- [43:45]
Teddi Mellencamp
You're saying that as you.
- [43:47]
Tamra Judge
And by the way, I'm not gonna be that friend that's gonna shave my head just because you did. It ain't happening. Who knows?
- [43:52]
Teddi Mellencamp
You've been doing some crazy recently. You're my Britney Speaker Spears.
- [43:56]
Tamra Judge
Trust me, that's how I felt lately. No, I got. I have a square head. I have a square head and I have a lot of lumps and bumps and.
- [44:05]
Teddi Mellencamp
Oh, you have a lot of lumps and bumps. I have, like, 9 million stitches. I can't even feel this part of my head. But I'm so sorry about your lumps and bumps, Tam.
- [44:18]
Tamra Judge
And I think I have, like, horns that are trying to come out of the top of my head, but they won't come out.
- [44:22]
Teddi Mellencamp
Yeah, because you're the devil.
- [44:25]
Tamra Judge
I have facelift scar. Like. No, no. Well, I don't have that face. You have.
- [44:32]
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, I definitely don't feel like I have that face right now. That's the other thing that we don't really talk about is, like, when your body and all those things change, like trying to give yourself grace and being like, it's okay that these things change and you're going to. You're gonna go back to normal, but.
- [44:53]
Tamra Judge
You'Re on steroids right now, so those are naturally. You're complaining. Okay, but you. But you were complaining. I'm gaining weight. I'm gaining weight. I'm like, it's good. You need some weight on you. Okay, but you told me one of the things you said to me was, what is going on? I'm hearing all these things on the Internet. And I had a conversation with Alex. You are going to go back and you're going to do your job. If I have to gain weight and Be bald. You have to go and fight with bitches. And I have never laughed so hard in my life. Like, Eddie's. Like, we were actually out to dinner. I told him, me and Teddy been playing phone tag. If she calls, I'm answering. Deal with it. Because he hates for me being on the phone. He's like, cool, Yeah, I get it. So we're at dinner and I'm laughing so hard at the things you're saying to me. And he looked at me, goes, I haven't seen you laugh like that in so long.
- [45:45]
Teddi Mellencamp
Well, because someone needed to be honest with you that. No, I. I'm going to. I can't even tell you who I'm going to make you do the pod with if you don't go back the. The list of people that I have for you to pod with. You know what? I'm not ready anymore, guys. I'm going to need a little bit more of a break.
- [46:07]
Tamra Judge
Let me put torture Tam's going to.
- [46:10]
Teddi Mellencamp
Bod with blah, blah, blah. I also, I can't not say this how grateful I am for the care team that I had at Cedars. They put up a lot with me. I also had such an incredible oncologist and neurologist, and my surgeon was absolutely unbelievable and worked miracles. So I'm forever grateful. Oh, and you know, my nurses and my friends that put up with me through all of this.
- [46:47]
Tamra Judge
Yeah.
- [46:49]
Teddi Mellencamp
Thanks, guys, for listening to another episode of two T's in a Pod. It was very uplifting, I'm sure.
- [46:57]
Tamra Judge
Sorry about your drive home from work today.
- [47:00]
Teddi Mellencamp
So if you want to get depressed, ask your friends to tune in as well and give us five stars. And also slide into Tamara's DMs and ask why, when she quit, she decided to do it with a pink background. Even more embarrassing than all the other stuff she's done for Peter's sake. Even tumored up, I was like, pink background.
- [47:26]
Tamra Judge
It's the default one.
- [47:30]
Teddi Mellencamp
All right, thanks, guys. We'll talk to you next week. Foreign.
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