The Two T*ts (RHOP Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge Episode: The Two T*ts (RHOP Recap)
Release Date: December 24, 2024
Host/Authors: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Presented by: iHeartPodcasts

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1. Holiday Plans and Personal Updates (03:36 – 05:02)

Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge kick off the episode by sharing their personal holiday plans. Teddi mentions spending Christmas Eve at home and heading to Big Bear with family members, including her husband, Eddie. Tamra adds that she might join the family trip, highlighting the festive spirit among the hosts.

Notable Quote:

• Teddi Mellencamp [04:03]: "We're doing Christmas Eve at the house and then Christmas morning, we're headed to Big Bear."

2. Introducing the High Fives and Group Dynamics (07:18 – 11:28)

The hosts discuss a holiday lunch arranged by Heather for their close-knit group, affectionately named the "High Fives." This group includes Heather, Shannon, Emily, Gina, and themselves. They reflect on the strong bonds and support system within the group, contrasting it with their rival, Vicki Gumbelson.

Notable Quote:

• Tamra Judge [07:43]: "Perfect holiday lunch celebrating all the history we have together and all the successes we have brought each other through."

3. Rivalry with Vicki Gumbelson (10:58 – 17:07)

A significant portion of the discussion centers around their rivalry with Vicki Gumbelson. Teddi expresses frustration over Vicki's attempts to undermine their podcast's success, highlighting the competitive nature of the Real Housewives community. They mention Vicki's recent live podcast where she criticized them, portraying her as desperate and unprofessional.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp [10:58]: "She wasn't invited, so I don't know what she's doing lately, but she's really making herself look desperate."
• Tamra Judge [12:35]: "We have a group text that's called Smash the Two Tits and the Twat."

4. Alexis Bellino’s Exit from RHOC (11:31 – 16:31)

The hosts delve into Alexis Bellino's departure from "The Real Housewives of Orange County" (RHOC). They recount how Alexis announced her exit during a guest-hosted episode of the "Going Rogue" podcast with Carlos King. Teddi and Tamra share their personal interactions with Alexis, emphasizing that despite their support, Alexis's actions led to her removal from the show.

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra Judge [14:32]: "She is a very sweet girl."
• Teddi Mellencamp [15:15]: "I have supported you through, even when you shouldn't have."

5. Social Media Harassment and Crisis PR (16:31 – 26:00)

Teddi and Tamra discuss the pervasive issue of social media harassment and the role of crisis PR teams in manipulating public perception. They highlight how negative comments and organized attacks can significantly impact individuals' mental health and reputations. The hosts express their disdain for these practices, advocating for legal reforms to address online harassment.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp [22:10]: "They should go to jail. That happened to me on a smaller level this season."
• Tamra Judge [25:59]: "It's disgusting. Karma's a."

6. Recap of RHOC Season Highlights (35:07 – 58:35)

The conversation shifts to recapping recent episodes of RHOC, focusing on dramatic moments and conflicts among cast members. Key highlights include:

• Karen's Confrontation with Jacqueline: Karen ejects Jacqueline from her property, symbolized by the release of eight pink balloons representing citations. Tamra criticizes Jacqueline's attempt to find symbolism in the act.

  Notable Quote:

  • Tamra Judge [55:38]: "And she's just a shitty friend. I would have..."

• Stacy and TJ's Dynamic: The hosts discuss the seemingly lackluster chemistry between Stacy and TJ, expressing skepticism about their relationship.

  Notable Quote:

  • Tamra Judge [51:09]: "What exactly does that mean?"

• Giselle and Mia’s Tensions: Giselle and Mia clash over personal issues, with Giselle accusing Mia of lashing out and bringing up each other's children.

  Notable Quote:

  • Tamra Judge [57:09]: "They all start speculating and all the stories."

7. Addressing Bronwyn’s Appearance on Watch What Happens Live (58:35 – 64:05)

Bronwyn appears on "Watch What Happens Live," where she clarifies her stance on an alleged affair with Todd. Teddi and Tamra question the consistency of her statements, pondering whether she is lying or merely clarifying misconceptions. They anticipate further discussions about this at the upcoming reunion episode.

Notable Quote:

• Tamra Judge [62:53]: "I actually think it was the first time we saw Mia legitimately, like, panicked about a situation."

8. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks (64:05 – 66:37)

As the episode wraps up, Teddi and Tamra share light-hearted banter about their holiday indulgences and tease upcoming content. They encourage listeners to stay tuned for flashbacks and future episodes, promising more insightful and entertaining discussions upon their return from vacation.

Notable Quote:

• Tamra Judge [66:37]: "Keep tuning in to all of our different drops that we'll have throughout the week."

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Conclusion

In this engaging episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge provide a candid and comprehensive recap of the latest happenings in the "Real Housewives of Orange County" universe. They blend personal anecdotes with sharp critiques of rival cast members and delve into broader issues like social media harassment. Their dynamic chemistry and insightful commentary make the podcast a must-listen for fans seeking both entertainment and thoughtful analysis.

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Notable Quotes Summary:

• Teddi Mellencamp [04:03]: "We're doing Christmas Eve at the house and then Christmas morning, we're headed to Big Bear."
• Tamra Judge [07:43]: "Perfect holiday lunch celebrating all the history we have together and all the successes we have brought each other through."
• Teddi Mellencamp [10:58]: "She wasn't invited, so I don't know what she's doing lately, but she's really making herself look desperate."
• Tamra Judge [12:35]: "We have a group text that's called Smash the Two Tits and the Twat."
• Tamra Judge [14:32]: "She is a very sweet girl."
• Teddi Mellencamp [15:15]: "I have supported you through, even when you shouldn't have."
• Teddi Mellencamp [22:10]: "They should go to jail. That happened to me on a smaller level this season."
• Tamra Judge [25:59]: "It's disgusting. Karma's a."
• Tamra Judge [51:09]: "What exactly does that mean?"
• Tamra Judge [55:38]: "And she's just a shitty friend. I would have..."
• Tamra Judge [62:53]: "I actually think it was the first time we saw Mia legitimately, like, panicked about a situation."
• Tamra Judge [66:37]: "Keep tuning in to all of our different drops that we'll have throughout the week."

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This detailed summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting key discussions, insights, and the hosts' perspectives on various topics related to "The Real Housewives of Orange County."

Transcript

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Two teas in a Pod with Teddy.

[Tamara Judge]

Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi, guys.

[Tamara Judge]

Welcome to another episode of Two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp, and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Mrs. Claus.

[Tamara Judge]

Mrs. Claus reporting for duty, miss.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We're doing Christmas Eve at the house.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then Christmas morning, we're headed to Big Bear, and Ryan's coming up with Ava for a few days. My mom's coming up for a few.

[Tamara Judge]

Days, and I may be coming up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And you may be coming up for a few days. So it's gonna be fun. And we'll be there through New Year's. There's always kind of like a group of people that are up there and we do a little help house party or something like that. And Eddie, this is my husband. Can't we just sleep on New Year's Eve? Why do we have to have people over? Why do we have to have a part? I go, shut up. You're like, 110.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, and I'm a little bit with Eddie in the way that, like, I'm fine to ring in the New year at nine. New York. So it's, you know, midnight New York. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That is him. I'm like, oh, my God. You were just a bundle of fucking fun.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what? It's hard to be this big bag of uppers that me and Eddie are. I know it's hard. It's hard.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's.

[Tamara Judge]

But someone's got to do it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And he's like, well, I'm not drinking. I go, I get it, babe. I get it.

[Tamara Judge]

Sure.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Nobody's. Nobody's going to make you drink.

[Tamara Judge]

Nobody's forcing you to drink. And you know what, Eddie? You probably will have a drink or two. I'm just saying.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He'll take gummies. Yeah, he'll have. He'll take gummies, and then he'll have, like, One drink and he'll be like. Then he'll be the life of the party.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then all of a sudden he'll be like, he was at Bravicon. Remember when he wasn't going to drink a Bravo Con?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And then he's like, where's the funnel?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And then all of a sudden, like his shirts off. Yeah. That's my husband. Doesn't happen often, but when it happens, he does it with a bang.

[Tamara Judge]

He doesn't make any mistakes. I know. So today. So I've been going non stop for.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, you did some Christmas stuff. You did the Costa Mesa.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. So if you guys live in the Los Angeles, Orange county area, even San Diego, this is really worth it. This is not an ad. It's called Winterfest. O.C. it goes from. I mean, it's been going on for a while, but it ends on January 5th, so you still have plenty of time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I need to.

[Tamara Judge]

Ava. It was so fun because it start. If you get there right when it starts at 4pm there's not a ton of people there. There's no lines, there's no nothing. You get your Santa Claus picture. You get to ice skate.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You get ice skating.

[Tamara Judge]

There's carnival rides. We did that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's at the Orange County Fairgrounds, right?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So I. I don't know if this is the same thing, but during COVID years, it was a drive through situation where they had everything and you just drove through and you saw the lights and the snow and all. That was very cool. I took the kids and Ava a few years ago. Yeah, but that looked more.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, it was, it was more interactive. Yeah, it was really fun and the kids had a blast. And then last night we, we went to Cirque du Soleil.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Where's. Where was that at?

[Tamara Judge]

That was on, like right next to Santa Monica Pier.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, okay. Was it like holiday one?

[Tamara Judge]

It wasn't a holiday one, but I mean, it's been going on this entire month. But it was. I mean, Cruz, you know, he gets a little anxious about certain things. So he thought we were going to like get shut in and it was going to be like a circus and like scary and so, like, I saw his little like, body moving all back and forth, like, and I'm like, are you nervous for what this? And he's like, yeah. And then within three minutes he's like, oh my God. Like, it was. It was a. And I got to be home in bed by nine. Starts at 5:30.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fun.

[Tamara Judge]

Bam. Thank you. Ma'am. So both of those things are fun.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Heather arranged a lunch for the cast. The. We call them the High. We call in our group text. It's called the High Fives.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. It's a knockoff of Fox Force Five.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, kind of. It's the High Fives, and it's me, Heather, Shannon, Emily, Gina. So we went for a holiday lunch, which was really nice. And we went to the new Restoration Hardware over in Fashion Island.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that's fun. But this leads me to a question. Sorry. And I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sure you're not.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I may be a little bit. A little baby. Micro. Penis.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Micropenis. Okay. Like Justin Timberlake's. Oh, the poor boy. Bless his heart. Thank God he's got a good personality.

[Tamara Judge]

Does he?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm just throwing him a bone. A much bigger bone than what he has.

[Tamara Judge]

He needs a bone. If you guys haven't seen the video of him with, like, the.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It could be just like a little, you know, a little chunk of it. Maybe it was wrapped around the back or something.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that seems comfortable when you're on wires flying through the air. Maybe he's a grower, not a shower. I mean, you never know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You can't judge. It's. It's not the size of the. The boat. What is it called? It's not the size of.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, I'm not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The motion of the ocean. Did I just make that up or did I hear that before?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I don't know. But also, you guys, Tamara is a wealth of information right now because she texted. Yes, maybe it was yesterday. And she goes, did you know the saying was not. It's cold as hell in here. That it's cold as hail.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hail. Okay, so if you haven't watched Landman yet, guys, you have to watch it. And there was a saying in there that said, you're long toothed. And I had no idea what that meant. It was Billy. Billy Bob Thornton and Ali Larder.

[Tamara Judge]

Long in the tooth.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You're long in the tooth.

[Tamara Judge]

That means you're old.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You're old. I didn't know that long.

[Tamara Judge]

You want to know why? The saying is why?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because your gums are receding.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it's. For us. It's like a horse saying. So, you know you can tell the age of your horse by lifting up the side of their mouth.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, okay, so this show takes place in Texas. So this is a Texan horse situation.

[Tamara Judge]

So if a horse is long in the tooth. It means, like, it's old. It's getting up there because their teeth are small when they start, and then by the time, you know, they're like 15, 15, 16 for a horse is getting up there, then their teeth are all long.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, that's why I went to Smile Texas to get my new teeth, because I was long in the tooth or whatever it's called.

[Tamara Judge]

Whatever. I need my updates, by the way. You got to give me that girl's number.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah, we should do a. We should go to Texas to Smile Texas and do a podcast. Like, a live podcast. They have a beautiful office there.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm getting my teeth done redone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, we'll do it the day after you get them done. Because it's not pretty. Well, it's not pretty, but you were. You were saying you didn't want to be shady.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah. Back to my. My cross grow penis shade.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Why? Okay, so you guys posted the high. What do you call each other? The high Fives.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The High Fives, Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so the high Fives post a picture. It's a collab post, which really shows y'all are getting along. It's Gina, Emily, Tamara, Heather, and Shannon. Gina captioned Perfect holiday lunch celebrating all the history we have together and all the successes we have brought each other through. The ups and the downs. Laughs were had, gifts were exchanged, and Shannon's clearly still Shannon. Happy holidays to all of our loyal, amazing fans who stick us, stick through us. We love and appreciate you. But then Victoria Gumbelson commented. Hope you all had a great time. Sorry I couldn't make it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She wasn't invited, so I don't know what she's doing lately, but she's really making herself look desperate. I don't really like to comment on things that she says and does, but it's getting to the point that it's, you know, it's. It's ridiculous and it's embarrassing for her. I don't know if you're aware of this, but she did a live recently.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

For the podcast. And she really. She really went off on us. And it was me and you or.

[Tamara Judge]

The fox or the Walmart 5.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Walmart. She just. She, you know, like, we live rent free in her head. And it's really sad because in the podcast world, there's a. There's room for everybody. But she said something, like, to the crowd, and they were cheering her on, of course, talking about us as, I think, the tits and the twats, the two tits.

[Tamara Judge]

Acting like she doesn't know, the name of the pod is getting old.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's kind of like play Evander Pump. Not knowing that.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, Kristen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Kristen's pregnant. Yeah. But you know who I mean, right? We're going to squash the two tits, if you don't know what I mean. It's Tamara and Teddy. Two tits and a twat. Whatever saying is we. I have a group text that's called Smash the Two Tits and the Twat. And it's just.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought she was like, a very Christian woman that would never say inappropriate things, but yet here we go.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Evidently, that's her goal is to. To squash us. And it's actually a really good goal.

[Tamara Judge]

Because we're 148 spots below us.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's. Yeah, she's 183 on the charts, and we're usually in the top three, so, you know, that's a good goal. I don't blame her.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't blame her. I mean, we've officially already hit 55 million downloads, so I can see why.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think it's more than that, but it's just. It's. It's embarrassing. She's embarrassing herself. Her constant having podcasts where she has to. Emergency podcast. Let's go after Tamra. It's like, you know, don't do that. That's what makes. That's what keeps you at 183 or 200, because it's the same thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen, we should talk all the time. And we have a group text called Shit Talkers, but you want to know the last person we're talking about? Yeah, Vicki.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, I know. It's just. It's really sad that she's gone to this level and she's starting to remind me of somebody else that used to be on the show, and look how well that worked out for her.

[Tamara Judge]

Can we talk about somebody else that used to be on the show that made an announcement?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Alexis Bellino.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes. Alexis Molino announced her exit from the Real Housewives of Orange County. I was not asked back, obviously. I knew that I wasn't obviously allowed to say anything. Alexis will not be part of the Real Houses of Orange county upcoming 19th season. She announced her exit from the franchise while guest hosting Going Rogue podcast. In the episode that dropped early on Friday, she did a podcast co hosting with Carlos King, I believe.

[Tamara Judge]

And we love Carlos.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We love Carlos. He did say a lot. He got a lot out of her. And he, in fact, told her, you know, what you did was not the right way to go.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And it wasn't. And me And Heather both tried to warn her. The thing is, she is a very sweet girl.

[Tamara Judge]

Know what else she said? I saw a clip of this. She said that she's still really close with Katie and Jen, and she's working on things with you and Heather.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Which. I mean, Heather talked about that the other day. I'm like. We had a conversation after Alexis and I had a conversation after the final, you know, episode.

[Tamara Judge]

Same, whatever. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I had met with Alexis probably three weeks prior to that. Might have been sooner. I can't remember the date, but I went to her house to see how she was doing. We hung out for a little bit. And for some strange reason, she goes, are you my friend or my TV friend? And I said, alexis, I think I've proven to you that I am your friend. I have supported you through.

[Tamara Judge]

Even when you shouldn't have.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Even when I shouldn't have. I actually, you know, threw my own self under the bus and got ran over this season because I was friends with her. Heather was friends with her as well. Jen and Katie were friends with her as well. But it didn't. Like, if you notice, Jen and Katie won't show pictures with Alexis. Like, they're too afraid, you know, when they hang out a lot, from what I understand. But. Oh, she said that we met a few days before the reunion. I can't. I honestly.

[Tamara Judge]

Before the final scene airs. So she's saying after the.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She was very upset about that. And I had a conversation with her on the phone. I said, listen, we were strictly told not to tell you. We're told that all the time. What we film, especially if it's about somebody else, we are not allowed to tell that other person because nobody wants.

[Tamara Judge]

To see shit that doesn't happen on camera. Then it ruins the entire.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There would have been a big chance that they would have went to the press and got ahead of it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you mean John Jansen would go and do his same scripted speech that he did on every single press outlet that he could?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, that's what they were afraid of.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I'm so. You know, I don't. I don't. You know, I. It's not that I can't stand Alexis, but I'm not upset to not have to recap her next year.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But we do have to give her credit. Part of the reason why we had over 3 million view viewers. Is that what they're called? I was gonna say subscribers, but that's podcast world. We, you know, our ratings were high. She had a lot to do with it. She really did. So, you know, I. I don't know what her future is on the show, if she'll ever be back, who knows? But we could not keep going the way we were going.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but I have one other question that I forgot to ask about the Vicki comment. Originally, Gina responded to it with hearts and then she deleted it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Tamara Judge]

So does somebody else run Gina's social media or she was trying to be nice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. I know her dad. Her dad does. Her dad helps her out.

[Tamara Judge]

Her dad does.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Her dad is so sweet. Her dad's an attorney, like a really smart man. And I don't know if he's still practicing or if he's retired now or what, but he's super sweet. Her parents are the sweetest. And I think he just kind of helps her out because let's be honest, nobody wants to see mean Comments.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

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Do yourself a favor, try them at home for 90 days and if you don't love them, send them back, no questions asked. But I'm sure you'll love them as much as we do and buy more. Can we talk about something that's not Housewives is the Blake Lively stuff that's going on. And when I saw that and they have P crisis PR people that go out and they have it all in writing that go out and try to destroy people, hire bots and do all these things. This should be illegal.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, people think it's harassment.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They should go to jail. That happened to me on a smaller level this season. Somebody hired bots. I think I know who it is and went after me to a degree That I was depressed.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, mine wasn't bots, but mine was press related. If you noticed. When all of these things came out in the press, it was very one sided. Correct, correct. And there's a lot. Even though they're saying, you know, they're just mentioning Johnny Depp's name and Drake. That's that certain crisis PR team. But there's another one that was the same that Brad Pitt hired, that Joe Jonas hired. And remember how shitty people felt about Angelina Jolie and how bad they were thinking about Sophie Turner. But it was kind of like the same story for both of them. That's all crisis PR teams and like, to put things in perspective, crisis pr, like a regular PR agent. So, like I've had one since before housewives. They're like $2,000 a month to hire a crisis management team. We're talking 20,000 ton of fucking money.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's important that I was so relieved when this came out because it's, it's something that, you know, I've been talking to Eddie and I wanted to actually talk to my attorney about it. And we've talked about before, like, laws have to change. I don't care what we have to do. We need to figure out a way to change the laws on social media. Because this doesn't just affect celebrities, it affects children. Like, they're on social media and they're, they're committing suicide and things like that. Like, it's not. And what kind of person gets behind a keyboard and says, it's horrible, Horrible things. Those people.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, we also can say horrible things and be. So it's hard for me to say.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about the people that get behind the keyboard on social media and tell people they should die and they don't even know them. It's one thing to recap a show and say, oh, Angie was being an. That's. That's totally different. That's talking about a show. That's our opinion as a viewer. These are mean, horrible things about.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, even my most recent post, somebody commented something like, I wish you stopped existing in life. Yeah. And then there's like, honestly, I think like 35 comments back and forth of people fighting with this person, like, who has fun doing that? But the, the part that we do need to talk about when it comes to Blake Lively is if this wouldn't have come out. I had a real distaste in my mouth for Blake Lively because of all the stuff that. That press manager.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. See, I don't buy any of that stuff. But you know who else did is Donna from Daily Dose of Donna. She said the same thing. She's like, wow, I didn't realize that the press can be so manipulated.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I think it also was because I had read Colleen Hoover. I love. And so I read all of her books. So I had read. You know, it ends with us. And it's so much about. It was about DV and the fact that, like, it was brushed over in the prep, like, I really took. I was like, what. I don't get it. You know, like, what. What's happening here. But then once you start to see what's all playing out, it's. I. My heart goes out to Blake Lively. I'm glad she's fighting for herself. And, you know, Justin Baldoni's agent already dropped him. Allegedly. That's what the press is saying. But something Anybody that uses.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, these. These crisis PR managers, companies that are doing this to other people is. It's disgusting.

[Tamara Judge]

What about the subpoena? And you see all of the messages, like, we're going out. Like, this is the plan for today. This is how we're taking this person down. Like, I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's just gross.

[Tamara Judge]

And to make it clear, a regular PR agent is someone who, like, manages, like, let's say Tamara had a new Venus cbd, something coming out. They, like, pitch. Or the. Or the show's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They pitch it to, like, People magazine and all these different things. Hey, it's like.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Or like, Teddy's new All in by Teddy cookbook is dropping on Christmas.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Granted, this is not. That doesn't actually happen. It's not happening. It's a hypothetical if I could cook, but that's the type of thing that they do. Justin sent a Twitter thread that was negative about Hailey Bieber to his crisis team and said, we need this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, it's just. It's a bully. It's bad karma. And this is his karma. When you purposely go after somebody, if it's on social media or in real life, whatever. You're disgusting.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Karma's a. Doing things like that is gross, because.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And it speaks a lot of truth that not only did Colleen Hoover step forward and speak on behalf of Blake Lively, but her entire cast of Sisterhood of the Traveling.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I just saw that today.

[Tamara Judge]

They also did. So it's. It's clear that this is a woman that is not difficult and problematic to work with.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Lisa Vanderpump questions Paternity a pregnant Kristen's baby with fiance Luke. On an episode of Access Hollywood podcast, the host brought up Kristen's pregnancy to lvp and she responded, I hadn't heard that. The restaurant. Restaurant owner, 64, claimed, how on earth did that happen? Who's the father? Do we know? It's just so disgusting. So basically, Sheena went after her, and I don't blame her. Sheena.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, but it's like, we have.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's a producer on the Valley.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And so how unprofessional is that? That you're a producer on the Valley and you're acting like you don't even know. I lost all respect at this point.

[Tamara Judge]

And also, I know. I know that I'm not. I know I have my only Savannah pump issues, but I need to be very clear about something. There is not a moment in time where she does not have her iPad out scanning Twitter. I don't know anything about every single thing said and done about her with her, with the people involved. Like, she is not.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But she's a producer on this show if she is. Come on.

[Tamara Judge]

So she says, oh, she getting married?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Are she getting married? She asked. I'm really not very involved in the Valley, even though I'm a producer. Well, that makes you very unprofessional and not a good producer.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that. They probably were just throwing her a bone by giving her producer credit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, but she's still. I mean, if she's a good businesswoman, she's going to at least watch the show and see what's working and what's not working. You would? I would.

[Tamara Judge]

Of course. She's. It's like, she probably says she never watched Beverly Hills either. I don't know if she said that. That's my guess.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, on the Shenanigans podcast, Sheena slammed Lisa, saying, with all due respect, it was kind of shady. Super shady. That's also unprofessional. Like what we're saying. Especially because Lisa is a producer on the Valley. You know who Luke is? She continued. He's a cast member on the show. This season. They get engaged. Knowing the struggle that Kristen has shared about her path to becoming a mother, even if you don't like someone, it's distasteful. How hard is it to wish her the best?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, even freaking Nick Val made a comment about it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, he did. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

He's like, I don't get it. And I mean, the same thing go. This is the same thing goes for James Kennedy. Lisa Vanderpump.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is she gonna Stand up for him next. Or her.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, she already did an entire season prior. We. We were called liars when we said everything that we said.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We didn't say it all and we.

[Tamara Judge]

Did not even say a fraction of what happened. But she knows who that man is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Well, Kristen did respond by posting the Page Six article to her Instagram story with a big clown emoji. Kristin, we wish you all the best. We are so happy for you. And we. We stand with you because this was pretty disgusting.

[Tamara Judge]

It was pretty bad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It had struggles to get pregnant.

[Tamara Judge]

And honestly, the clown is like the ultimate shade. That's one of my blocked things from Instagram. People can't write clown on my comments. Cause it really upsets me more than I hope you do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I always, you know, I, I've always thought of Lisa Vanderpump as somebody that has a dry sense of humor and always looking for the jo.

[Tamara Judge]

I've always been a joke every time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I just wish at this point she would come out and say I was, you know, I was just poking. I was joking and.

[Tamara Judge]

But maybe.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sorry, that was somebody that disrespectful.

[Tamara Judge]

How old is Kristen?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, 41.

[Tamara Judge]

She's 41 years old. Clearly she's talked about it for years that she wants to have a baby. Like, I don't care what your issues are with this woman. She has made you television gold multiple years in a row, no matter what show she has been on. So like Kristen. And if I'm not dislike Kristen, if.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm not mistaken, I did read somewhere on Instagram and you never know if it's true, but she had some health scares during this pregnancy too. So that's always, you know, I had health scares for the first, I don't know, four plus months with one of my. My children. And it's. It's scary.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. But I'm glad that Sheena spoke up because I think that I know I love her. There's always been a moment where I think that Sheena has had a little bit of fear to. I mean, not just Sheena, everybody.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The whole cast.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. To ever speak out against Lisa Vanderpump because they're worried, you know, she's going to give them the boot, but it's. She does the same shit to everybody.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I always thought that she was just her dry sense of humor, but this kind of crossed the line.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, can we talk about another Vanderpump rules thing really quick? I know this isn't on our rundown, but Katie and Stassi did a podcast Together. And they were talking about how they first met and it's because they both dated Peter. I want to understand how everybody has dated Peter. Do you know who Peter is?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, but he must have a big Peter, maybe.

[Tamara Judge]

No, you don't even understand. He's like the manager at Sir. But now. I mean, I think we're Kelly Long hair. Yes, yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yes, yes, yes. I know who he is.

[Tamara Judge]

But it made me want to, like, go back into the archives and try to watch this next one is there won't be a Real Housewives of New Jersey update for a year. Stop asking. Andy Cohen pleads to Us Weekly, you're not going to get it for like a year, so everyone stop asking. And I keep saying you're going to get nothing, so stop asking. Cohen previously said that the network and production company is taking our time when comes to planning what's next. Also, Dolores said on her Traders little talking head, the one like, if she could pick anybody not to see in Traders, it would be anybody from her Real Housewives of New Jersey cast.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, well, yeah, she probably just wants to do it by herself.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, yeah, but still. Yeah, still steal. I don't want to take a little Karen Huger.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Karen Huger. Oh, Karen, Karen, Karen. Evidently, Karen's future is in jeopardy with Bravo following her dui. She needs to clean up her act as Page Six. I don't know that I totally believe this because I don't think that Bravo would put something out there like that. The word on the street is Karen's future at Bravo is up in the air. If she doesn't get herself together, she would need to clean up her act for Bravo to move forward with her, a source says. However, we're also told no official casting conversations have taken place. I.

[Tamara Judge]

To be honest, I don't really believe this because if this was true, I truly don't believe this to be fact, because if that was the case, it would be have to be across the board for all Bravo shows. And to me, being arrested for, like, domestic violence is also pretty shitty. And it'd be have to be across the board for anybody who got a dui.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, we've had a lot of Bravo liberties that have been arrested for many different things throughout the years. It has not stopped them or looked made anybody look at them as an executive for Bravo. Like that I know of that. They're like, nope, they're not coming back.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I mean, Luann would have been done years ago. She threatened to kill a cop.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, like, they waited for Theresa to come back. She was in jail and they waited for her to come back. They held the show. So I don't, I don't believe this.

[Tamara Judge]

But you know what? You can get you off in a show running a troll account.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, but if you run a troll account, you're done.

[Tamara Judge]

You're done. Okay, this next one you can take as well.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay. Kyle, Marisa were spotted according to tmz, walking through the streets of Aspen on Saturday alongside with their dog. From the looks of it, they're doing some last minute shopping before the big holiday. At one point, Mauricio wrapped his arms around Kyle's waist. Sources with direct knowledge tell us that Kyle Mauricio have been very cool with each other. And they. And that's underscored by the new footage, of course. Miso has been out with a couple different women while in Aspen. We've seen it all over Instagram, including a model. However, we're told it's strictly business between Mauricio and Earl. Is that how you say your name is Earl?

[Tamara Judge]

Who even talking about. I thought the girl's name was like Carly K. Or something. Or Carlene. Who's Earl?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, okay. Well, there's other girl than Earl. There's another one. Claudia, I think her name is. And he was a little bit more than chummy with her. He was kissing her and his arms were around her. I don't know who this Earl is, but she was attending an event along with Mauricio's real estate company. So maybe he's just doing work with, with her.

[Tamara Judge]

I think regardless of what we're seeing him, you know, it's not ideal when you see pictures of other people in the press. I mean, it was very annoying to me to see pictures of myself at my daughter's horse show standing next to Slate's trainer and them pretending that I'm making a video of myself. Clearly I'm videoing my daughter in the ring like. And I know it's just another fricking person at the horse show, but like that's where when you're a mom and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You'Re watching your kids, person at the horse show sits there, sees you, takes a video and gives it to an outlet. You are a piece of shit.

[Tamara Judge]

But also so I standing near another human being. There was no canoodling. There was nothing. It's two human beings.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know that like that.

[Tamara Judge]

It just bugs me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I want to buy into this shit too. It's just like people put your head out of your asses. But who guess who pulled his head out of his ass.

[Tamara Judge]

Who?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Jared Osmond.

[Tamara Judge]

No, hold on. Before we get into this. I think it does. I don't think. I think he put his head.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it does show what excellent parents and communicators, Kyle and Mauricio.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, now your head's up her ass, so let me know.

[Tamara Judge]

You got to tell me, how many times have you gone and spent the holidays with Simon? No, I would never have a united front.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I would, but he wouldn't. Right. So I would want to do like family dinners. He would refuse to do it. But let me ask you a question. I am assuming that the whole family is going to be in Aspen for Christmas and that's why they're together. They are still a family.

[Tamara Judge]

Correct. They're a family that love and care about each other. And like to me, it just like goals.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think that it's just doesn't look right when the day before he's, you know, hugging a model and then he's with his wife. I think that's where people start speculating and all the stories.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, yeah. I mean, do I. What I have been. I haven't talked to Kyle about when I was my last nesting over at Kyle's, where you guys say I'm Kyle's roommate. She'd already left for Aspen. So it was like we haven't had this conversation. But I think it's when you're married that long.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And you've built so much together, I think you have a mutual respect for one another. I'm sure that probably stung regardless of what their future holds. Because seeing that regardless is hard. But I think. I think they love their kids and they get along. And I could only hope that a lot of people that are in separation can do the same.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You want to take this next one? Because I might throw up the. I feel these words come out of my mouth. I might vomit.

[Tamara Judge]

Jared Osman makes it Instagram official with Brittany Bateman. Jared posted an Instagram reel on Sunday, December 22, that was multiple photos of Brittany with text overlay. That said, when an angel comes into your life, that brings you happiness, peace and love, you hold on with both hands. Introducing my beautiful girlfriend, Brittany Bateman. The caption on the post said, yes, life is good with Britney by my side. And then all the bloggers like they posted like, oh, now that I maybe I missed this part. But like now that Britney's a fan favorite, Jared is willing to say that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She'S a fan favorite.

[Tamara Judge]

That that's what I was like. I maybe we haven't gotten there yet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This is a 50 year old man. I mean, this is something a teenager would do. A 50 year old man is out there talking about, this is my girlfriend, we're going steady now. I love her.

[Tamara Judge]

It bugs. It reads, brit, let's get Britney back on the show for next season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I Britney did release a Christmas album or ep, whatever it's called.

[Tamara Judge]

Does it, does it say Mary Cosby's name in it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. I haven't. I listened to it. I don't think. I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

The video that I heard, I got.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

A good voice actually.

[Tamara Judge]

Great. Let's try it. On the first day of Christmas, my true love brought to me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You don't want to hear me sing? I'm sorry, it's not happening.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

So before we get into recapping Potomac, I want to let you guys know that I Heart Closes Down Shop. They give a nice, nice little vacation. But don't you worry, the twats still have episodes releasing tonight. This episode's airing Thursday 1226. We have flashback Real Housewives of Orange County Season 3, Episode 7 and 8. Then Friday on the Twat seat we have Shep Rose. Then Flashback Holiday Binge is the following week, which is so good. So make sure that you subscribe to that because you're one of gonna because you're really gonna wanna listen to that. And then we are back in action. January 6th. And anything that we've missed, that's your favorite day, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

January 6th.

[Tamara Judge]

Love January 6th. Especially when I'm on X or Twitter.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Especially when you're on a stage at Watch what happens live in Vegas.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, you know what? Especially anytime where I want to get hate, I bring up January 6th. So we're still going to keep our content flowing, but we are not back in the flat.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We get a vacation.

[Tamara Judge]

What. What are we going to do? I don't watch more shows.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. Hopefully I'll be good. And I haven't worked out, like in three weeks.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, my workouts haven't been.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I'm so. And I've been eating ice cream every night. It's like when I fall off the train, I fall off the train. I'm either 100 in, but it's weird when I don't work out, I just get like. Oh, I just.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what I've gotten obsessed with? I don't know why.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why?

[Tamara Judge]

Graham crackers.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Really? I love graham crackers, but I don't rarely eat them.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, me neither.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Last night and the night before. Yeah, Thrifty's ice cream. Mint chip.

[Tamara Judge]

Yum. Oh, traders also starts January 8, so get ready because.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I can't wait for that.

[Tamara Judge]

And that as well. Okay. Anywho, you'll still have plenty of content, but we are. We are on vacation. Yay. Okay, so now we're up to season nine. Episode 12 Karen tells Jacqueline to get off her property. Jacqueline brought eight balloons to represent Karen's eight citations.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Shady Karen.

[Tamara Judge]

Mia says Karen doesn't even own this property. She rents it. And Mia tells Karen not to feel disrespected. Karen tells me to get away from her. And then Mia says that Jacqueline mentioned to her that she'd stopped by.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you see Mia's face when she was sitting there? And. And Jacqueline showed up. She was smiling when she showed up with balloons. And she's just a shitty friend. I would have.

[Tamara Judge]

But I'm.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I would. Honestly, if I was Karen, I would have kicked them both out because Mia was behind this.

[Tamara Judge]

Also, I have a question. I'm confused why Mia thinks Karen renting a home is a dig.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

When I checked my notes, Mia rents her apartment.

[Tamara Judge]

It seems to be Mia's renting as well.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know I said the same thing.

[Tamara Judge]

And to me, I don't give a shit if you're renting or you're own it, as long as you're paying your bills.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And then there's Stacey being Very consistent in every scene. What is going on here? What is going on? I feel like Stacy really doesn't know what show she's on yet.

[Tamara Judge]

No, she's just playing. That's just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I just think that she's just so sweet. She's so sweet and innocent.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. You don't think so? Okay, well, we're.

[Tamara Judge]

I think we're going to get a completely on the bright side, season two. I think right now she's playing up what she thinks everybody wants to see. And I think season two. Oh, there's going to be a season two takedown.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I'm falling for her. Like a lot of people are falling for somebody on my show right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, what about when Karen cares about the environment so much? Except for trees, apparently, because isn't that what she ran?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God, now you're shady. Yes. She was worried about. Was it global warm warming?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I don't know, but we saw her release balloons like when her with her family when there was a passing. So I'm like, don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, she did. Oh, my God, how funny. But I was wondering balloon. How does. I mean, this is might be a stupid question, but releasing balloons in the air, isn't that more about landing in the ocean? And like, I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I got my ass handed to me as handed me when I had one balloon and we put dove's pacifier on it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I remember when that happened.

[Tamara Judge]

And she got to like, send it off into the world because I had like, read in like, some kid's book that that's the best way to do it. And granted, it worked. I mean, except now that she sucks her finger, but she never wanted the passy again because she, like, thought it went away. Yeah, but the releasing one balloon, I got my ass handed to me. So eight citation balloons.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. It was just a shady thing to do. And she knows exactly, you know, that it was shady. And let's talk about. Well, how does she know where I live?

[Tamara Judge]

Also, what about when.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she knows where you live because the production car drove you to her house. That's how be honest.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, I can't believe production didn't call out Giselle literally coming to Karen's conference with a shirt that said pay your taxes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, why didn't I see that?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh. Like, these all. All of these women are such hypocrites. It's so beautiful. Seasons ago.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I'm like, what are you talking about?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, no, it was seasons ago, but it's Just like, I wish they would have given us a flash.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That would have been a good flashback. A really good one.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Mia packs for Panama. Mia, arrange for the children to stay with a nanny. Then everyone arrives at the airport. Karen tells Giselle that things have gone too far and they need an OG check.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What exactly does that mean? Like, just the. The top dogs at the show or.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, they need to realize where they stand. They're the OGs.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So, like the high fives?

[Tamara Judge]

No, because you guys aren't og. Not everybody's an OG in the high fives. Yeah, true, but they're trying to say, like, don't. Don't f. With us because we're the OGs. But then the women arrive in Panama. They drive from the airport to the villa, which is two hours.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. I would die. I would die. It's like the worst thing when you have to fly somewhere and then get in a car and drive for two hours.

[Tamara Judge]

What about when every single video is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

In, like, because you're exhausted? We flew to Costa Rica and then drove three or four hours to get to where we were going.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then found out when we got there, there's an airport 30 minutes away.

[Tamara Judge]

But was it for private planes only? No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We're like, are you kidding me right now? Like, it's just. Because what you guys don't understand is as soon as we land, we gotta film.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, like those. There's cameras in the sprinter vans. You're coming in hot. Then that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, Ashley said what everyone was thinking in that sprinter van.

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Stacy, there's zero chemistry between you and tj.

[Tamara Judge]

She said it's her spidey senses.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's. Yeah, there's nothing.

[Tamara Judge]

There isn't any. There really isn't any.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like the Christian kiss that TJ gave Stacy.

[Tamara Judge]

The Christian kiss? I'm sorry. I wouldn't even say that was a Christian kiss. That was like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, it's like a best friend kissed. That's like, I've gotten better kisses from you.

[Tamara Judge]

I. It was honestly like this. They couldn't even be bothered to go.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm waiting for them to do butterfly kisses with their eyes next their eyelashes.

[Tamara Judge]

Ashley says she likes Josh and hasn't felt this way since Michael.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, how about Ashley giving up the goods? Panama, you don't get it.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not gonna lie. I. I don't have a problem with Josh. I think Josh is, like, cute and funny and, like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, but if I were her and I was coming, I don't think. Oh, well, anything is a Step up from him. But it didn't last because obviously she went on the dating show.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, maybe I doubt that she found love on the dating show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You don't think so?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, like, you think the same person that wants to date Shannon wants to date Ashley and they're gonna end up together?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know the concept of the show yet.

[Tamara Judge]

Me neither, but that's what I'm picturing in my head. A kiss with Shannon and then a kiss with Ashley and then a kiss with Luann. Yeah, it's just too much because I'm going to like, what? Like, the actual, like, bachelor's like. And I can't. I can't imagine it. But I do want to know what the driver of their sprinters thought when they saw they were driving a group of housewives for two hours. Well, like, do they ask for hazard pay? Like, how do they handle it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not well.

[Tamara Judge]

Not well. Well, I think that Ashley gives full tongue. I. I don't think she's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That she gave more than tongue.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, yeah. Even though she said, listen, I would never drive anybody to the airport ever. So the fact that he drove her to the airport, like, honestly, he could just the tip with me just for.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That because itself, they just bumped fuzzies.

[Tamara Judge]

Hopefully they're not fuzzy down there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Jenna, lion fuzzies.

[Tamara Judge]

No, hers isn't fuzzy either.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's straight hairs. Straight hairs.

[Tamara Judge]

She has that. Hold on. What's the product we always promote? The blow dry. That can blow dry your hair in two minutes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. She blow dries her. Okay, let's move on. This is getting raunchy.

[Tamara Judge]

Then the women arrived at the resort. They are splitting into three villas. Wendy put Karen and Jacqueline together. Wendy says she chose chaos.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I appreciate Wendy admitting that she chose chaos instead of pretending she wants to make things like Lisa Barlow, you know, open. Yeah, I. I thought it was good.

[Tamara Judge]

Giselle says no one wants to live with Stacy. Not even TJ Giselle.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why are you so shady? That was not nice.

[Tamara Judge]

But would you want to stay with Stacy?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I would. I think she's upbeat and sweet and nice. Yes, I would sleep in bunk beds with Stacy.

[Tamara Judge]

I love. There's no sweet. I love.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Would you rather be with a Debbie Downer or somebody that's causing havoc or something? I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so I would rather. Let me think of the people I'd rather share a room with. Ashley, Giselle, even Wendy, like, Wendy is good to me. This Wendy's back on the open this season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I just don't have a Problem with Stacy. She's so innocent and sweet.

[Tamara Judge]

Giselle didn't even want to share her toothpaste with her. It's not like she asked for the toothbrush. She just asked for the paste.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

And then she's like, where's your toothpaste?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Damn. Poor thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then the women sit down for dinner. Giselle tells Jacqueline that bringing the balloons was messed up. Jacqueline says the balloons symbolize the release of the citations, and she wanted to lift that weight from cancer. Karen's heart.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yes. Jacqueline releasing eight pink balloons is totally going to lift the weight off of possibly going to jail. Stop being condescending. This woman is delusional.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, Jacqueline, you would have been better just saying, like, I wanted to be an. Instead of spending, like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, to ride on chat. GPT Trying to come up with what's symbolism. How can I explain this? Like, it was embarrassing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was so embarrassing. And her trying to pull it off. Like, I was just being kind. No, you were being an. I don't have a problem with it, but lean into it. Don't act like you're gonna be like.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, you didn't invite me, so I came to be a dick. And I know I ruined your day, so I did a good job of it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Just at least be that way.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Just admit it.

[Tamara Judge]

When you do something up, don't try to. Oh, no. I actually really came with a good heart. No, you didn't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, you didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

You were pissed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You're being shady housewife, and we're here for it. But just.

[Tamara Judge]

We're fine. Yeah. Then Giselle tells Mia that she is lashing out and she is not allowed to bring up each other's children. I agree with this. Mia tells Giselle. She pretends her daughter's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, wait. We forgot something.

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We forgot something. Karen is pressing charges.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that's. I haven't seen anything about that. I think.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Pressing charges against Jacqueline. Could you imagine her? Officer, this is the grand arm. Would you press charges on Jacqueline for trespassing with pink balloons? Arrest her, you poor white person. Because.

[Tamara Judge]

And you all. And she's also brought a Chihuahua. In my yard.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, come on.

[Tamara Judge]

My rented yard. I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It.

[Tamara Judge]

But it scared Jacqueline. You could tell she, like, was like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. But then there was Stacy. I love hearing the sound of water. It's so tranquil. Like, she is in a world of her own.

[Tamara Judge]

She may need to take it down on her Venus CBD gummies before filming.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes, she.

[Tamara Judge]

She may have had one.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's on Cloud nine. Yeah, Cloud nine.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, then Giselle tells Mia that she's lashing out and she's not allowed to bring up each other's children. Mia tells Giselle she pretends her daughters are perfect on social media when they're sneaking in with boys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, God, they're teenagers at the time. Who the hell cares?

[Tamara Judge]

And they're about to go to college, by the way.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who doesn't want their kids to look perfect on social media? Are you going to post a picture of your kid being the asshole and go, gee, what a dick this one is?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Fudge, this kid.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Fuck.

[Tamara Judge]

This is my least favorite.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There's always one bad one, and this fuckers him. Yeah, like. Like, seriously.

[Tamara Judge]

Wendy tells Giselle that she bit her head off when she thought she was making faces when talking about her daughter. Giselle tells Wendy they can't compare that because they weren't speaking last year. And then Mia gets emotional. I can't. I can barely. I can't even get these words out of my mouth. Mia gets emotional, saying she's doing the best she can. And she gets a different version of Gord every day. Giselle. I think we speak for all viewers when we say, please go lower. Like, bring back the dirtier Giselle. We need her back on the show. Someone needs to put me in her place.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Somebody. I'm hoping that Gordon, after the season, he either does a confessional, like, towards the end of the season, or he's at the reunion.

[Tamara Judge]

But.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I feel like it plays into her shit.

[Tamara Judge]

It was very different than, like, when we saw Bronwyn. Oh. Which we didn't discuss. We need to talk about this, too. But when we see Bronwyn sharing her story about Todd, like, none of those women really seem to believe her or care.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. We never talked about that.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. We'll get to that after this. But when Mia shares the stuff about Gordon, they're all like. Like, they all start to feel for her. So I don't know if they're good actors or they just have seen the, you know, the nastier side of Gordon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But we haven't really seen the nasty side of Gordon. We just hear about it in a way that he's. He's bipolar. That's all we hear.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, but then we. Then. I'm sorry. We did get a taste of the nasty side of Gordon at the end. Mia is on the phone with her mom, Veronica.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know that I believe all this.

[Tamara Judge]

I do. I actually think it was the first time we saw Mia Legitimately, like, panicked about a situation. Because I. I can imagine what that feeling would be like on a housewives trip where you, like, can't be making a billion calls about it. You're trying to keep it under wraps. But to find out that you're, you know, who you're co parenting with, takes away from the nanny, takes him to another state, which also, if you have any kind of, like, you know, proper separation, you can't take. At least in California, you can't take your children without a state, without consent from the other parent. Yep. But he then dropped them off four hours away with their old nanny without permission. Like, I get it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She had the kids, it sounded like, at Jacqueline's house with their.

[Tamara Judge]

And I think they all shared the name. I think they're all been besties forever, which I get it. You want to spend time with your kids, and then you text Jacqueline and say, actually, I'd rather be with the kids and then be with Jacqueline's nanny. Totally get it. But to pick up the kids, drive them four hours away, and drop them off with another nanny that no longer works with them. Yeah, I didn't like it. I didn't like it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, we don't know what side yet, so let's see. Maybe something happened.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, we'll see.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Maybe the kids called. By the way, why isn't he taking care of his kids?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's my point. He picked them up so one would think it was so he could spend time with them, but then he dropped them off to another nanny four hours away. So now it was the first time that I was like, gordon, is it Mia and Gordon be lying, or is it just Mia be lion?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know anymore.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. Do you want to talk a little bit about Bronwyn on Watch what Happens Live?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So Bronwyn was on Watch It Happens Live this week, I believe.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And. And Todd was in the audience, and she backtracked on what was said. And I'm just paraphrasing because I don't have it in front of me, but basically saying that he never touched the woman. There was no actual physical affair. They were just talking a lot on the phone. So she said the total opposite of what she said to the girls, which is she saying that because Todd is mad at her, or is she saying clearing it up because she lied?

[Tamara Judge]

My guess is she, you know, she had said when she was on the. That trip.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Infidelity. She said infidelity.

[Tamara Judge]

My guess is she overshared to what Todd would be comfortable hearing. And now she's. I. My concern is now she's trying to clean up the mess so Todd. Yeah. Doesn't flip out. And that also.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I'm sure they're gonna. They're gonna bring it up at the reunion. I'm sure.

[Tamara Judge]

And, like, agrees to come back. Because if not, if she doesn't clear that up and try to cover her basis, then maybe he wouldn't come back, and then maybe she wouldn't. But also, I have a question. Whether it's an emotional affair or a physical. Physical affair. Both are shitty.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

What would you say? Shittier.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I just don't. Don't lie. That's the other thing. Like, don't get on the TV and lie. Try to make it some big deal that maybe it possibly wasn't or.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know what she was saying. I don't think she was lying.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't. Yeah. I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I think she was lying on. Watch what happens live. I don't think she was lying in that moment.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. I don't know. I think that we're gonna hear about it at the reunion for sure.

[Tamara Judge]

But question for you, if it was Eddie, what do you think's worse? An emotional or a physical affair?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I think they're both bad. And if he's doing that, I'm done. I have zero tolerance. Zero.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, guys, thanks for another episode of Two T's in a Pod and joining us. We sounded so merry right at the end, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, can we just.

[Tamara Judge]

Happy holidays.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can we leave it with the best one liner of the show?

[Tamara Judge]

Sure.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And it was from Karen. And the award goes to Karen for the best one liner. Whenever she gets out of all that Fashion Nova, I'll be there for her.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. This selfie. I was dying. Died. I died. As I went on to Amazon to buy my dupe sunglasses because I've lost all my nice pairs.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, you have. Hey, I get some sunglasses from Fashion Nova, but also Jacqueline dragging the chair.

[Tamara Judge]

Who doesn't pick up the chair? It wasn't like 200.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know me.

[Tamara Judge]

It was a wicker chair.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

My sound situation, like, sounds like. Make me want to punch somebody in the throat, her dragging that chair. I would have probably had to get up and leave.

[Tamara Judge]

Not one person enjoyed her dragging the chair. Just saying. No one. Oh, God, no one even wanted her sitting there. That's why they used up all the chairs. I feel like one of the girls had one of their butt cheeks on one chair. And the other on the other just so they didn't have room for Jacqueline to sit. But just saying. Anyways, Happy holidays everyone. Keep tuning in to all of our different drops that we'll have throughout the week and then we will be back in real time January 6th. And maybe if I do end up going to Big Bear and hanging with Tam, we'll do a little live for you guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, that'll be fun.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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