The Twot Seat: ALEX BASKIN

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge Episode: The Two Seat: ALEX BASKIN
Release Date: February 18, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod, hosted by Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, the discussion centers around Denise Richards' latest ventures in the true crime genre, her experiences producing reality TV shows, and updates on upcoming projects within the Real Housewives universe. The episode delves deep into Denise's new podcast series, "Once Upon a Con", exploring her journey from being a victim of fraud to becoming a crusader against con artists.

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Denise Richards' New True Crime Series: "Once Upon a Con"

Denise Richards introduces her groundbreaking true crime podcast, "Once Upon a Con," which premiered on February 12, 2025, on the iHeartRadio app. The series chronicles her personal experience with David Blum, a notorious con artist, and her transformation from being defrauded to spearheading a campaign against his fraudulent activities.

Denise Richards [03:38]: "This is our moment to take control of our health and reproductive journeys."

The Story Behind the Story

Denise recounts how she became aware of David Blum's extensive history of fraud, including his deceptive activities since the 1980s, where he defrauded high-profile individuals like the Rockefellers. The catalyst for the podcast was Denise's discovery that Caroline D'Amore, a television personality and founder of an organic Italian food company, had also been conned by Blum.

Denise Richards [04:30]: "What a real charmer."

Denise emphasizes the significance of giving a face to the story by featuring Caroline, who not only fell victim to Blum but also took active steps to expose his schemes. This personal touch adds depth and authenticity to the narrative, making it both gripping and empowering for listeners.

Denise Richards [05:54]: "These are not infrequent stories. There are cons out there. A lot of victims don't come forward because there's a shame associated with it."

Production Insights and Impact

Denise discusses the production process, highlighting the exclusive interviews with Blum's victims, including those from his fraudulent endeavors in Manhattan during the 80s and 90s. The podcast aims to unearth Blum's tactics and shed light on his long trail of deceit.

Denise Richards [08:33]: "He's been featured in, I think, a bunch of one-offs and anthologies, so I don't know that there's a full series about him."

Denise underscores the importance of combating the stigma associated with being scammed, encouraging victims to come forward and share their stories without shame.

Denise Richards [07:27]: "I think if we can bring any awareness to this, I think that's great."

Legal Proceedings and Future Aspirations

David Blum is currently incarcerated, awaiting the resolution of his case, which Denise hopes will serve as a deterrent for other would-be con artists.

Denise Richards [09:34]: "He is. And we're waiting for resolution of the case. And the DA takes this really seriously, which is great."

Denise envisions the podcast not only as a recounting of past events but also as a catalyst for empowering others to fight back against fraud.

Denise Richards [10:02]: "If you live in hope, you die in shit."

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Producing Reality TV: Insights from Denise Richards

Beyond her true crime endeavors, Denise shares her experiences in producing reality TV shows, particularly within the Real Housewives franchise.

Challenges and Evolution of Reality TV

Denise reflects on the demanding nature of producing shows like "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills", "Vanderpump Rules", and "The Valley." She acknowledges the increasing difficulty with each successive season, citing the challenges of keeping content fresh and engaging.

Denise Richards [17:02]: "Yes, and it's. And I think the challenging thing is, like, when it's not exhausting, sometimes that means that there's nothing happening and it's boring."

Upcoming Projects: "Denise Richards and Her Wild Things"

Denise introduces her new show, "Denise Richards and Her Wild Things," set to air on March 4th. The show promises a blend of comedy and drama, focusing on Denise's life post-divorce and her relationships with her daughters.

Denise Richards [27:10]: "It's really fun. I like the fact that it's a blend of comedy and drama and so it's not one of those over the top reality sitcoms."

She highlights the show's authenticity, featuring cameos from notable personalities like Paris Hilton, Garcelle Beauvais, and Charlie's ex-wife, adding star power and relatability.

Denise Richards [29:12]: "There are appearances from everyone from Hathi Hilton to Garcelle and Sutton to Camille Grammer to Charlie..."

Updates on "Vanderpump Rules" and "The Valley"

Denise provides teasers for upcoming seasons of "Vanderpump Rules" and "The Valley," hinting at fresh storylines and new cast dynamics. She assures listeners that while maintaining the essence of the original shows, these new series will offer a unique take without being mere reboots.

Denise Richards [30:26]: "All things are possible. I, you know, there's nothing to announce, obviously."

Reflections on Longevity in Reality TV

Discussing the longevity of the Real Housewives franchise, Denise muses on its potential to continue for decades, likening it humorously to the legendary "Golden Girls" as the show ages.

Denise Richards [22:13]: "Yeah. Then you have to rename it the Golden Girls."

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Conclusion

This episode of Two Ts In A Pod offers an in-depth look into Denise Richards' multifaceted career, from her resilience in overcoming personal fraud to her strategic role in shaping influential reality TV narratives. Denise's candid discussions provide valuable insights into the challenges and triumphs of producing compelling true crime content and sustaining long-running television projects. Her commitment to empowering victims and creating authentic entertainment resonates throughout the episode, leaving listeners inspired and informed.

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Notable Quotes

• Denise Richards [05:54]: "These are not infrequent stories. There are cons out there..."
• Denise Richards [07:27]: "I think if we can bring any awareness to this, I think that's great."
• Denise Richards [10:02]: "If you live in hope, you die in shit."
• Denise Richards [17:02]: "Yes, and it's. And I think the challenging thing is..."
• Denise Richards [22:13]: "Yeah. Then you have to rename it the Golden Girls."
• Denise Richards [27:10]: "It's really fun. I like the fact that it's a blend of comedy and drama..."
• Denise Richards [30:26]: "All things are possible. I, you know, there's nothing to announce, obviously."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the episode, providing valuable information for listeners and those interested in the behind-the-scenes aspects of reality TV production and true crime storytelling.

Transcript

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[Alex Baskin]

Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of the Twat Seat. I'm doing this one solo with one of my dear friends, Alex Baskin, CEO and the newly launched 32 Flavors Entertainment is the Executive producer of long running hit shows including the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Orange County, Vanderpump Rules and Botch, as well as forthcoming series for, among others, Netflix, Hulu and Paramount plus, as well as a feature film. As the president of Evolution Media, he oversaw more than four dozen series during his tenure. And he, along with his business partner, sold the company to MGM in 2017. But to our surprise, this year on Orange county In Beverly Hills, 32 Flavors, Alex Baskin's company has taken over. So let's get them on. Mr. Baskin.

[Denise Richards]

Tamara Judge. How are you?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm good, I'm good. You know I have to film right after this, right?

[Denise Richards]

Oh, I know, I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah, let's get you to your other job.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Right. So we'll make this quick. Right, so, okay, so I was up at three in the morning and I watch. I listened to Once Upon a Con. I listened to the first episode and half of the second, and I was hooked.

[Denise Richards]

Good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So, basically, television personality and founder of LA based organic Italian food and accessory company, pizza girl Caroline D'Amore is taking back control with her powerful new crime series with iHeart podcast premiering February 12, 2025 on the iHeartradio app. And everywhere, the podcast, anywhere you can hear them. The series chronicles Damore's transformation from victim to relentless crusader as she exposes David Blum, the notorious asshole.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Does that sum him up?

[Denise Richards]

That is. That's a very fair summary. And you know, this came to be because. Because I had read an article in the LA Times about this really prolific con man that since the 80s, had stolen tens of millions of dollars. He was known as the whiz kid of Wall street in the 80s because he stole money from people, including the Rockefellers and even his own grandparents.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So what a real charmer.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah, I mean, this guy is a special breed of asshole. So fascinating story. And then I saw on Instagram that Caroline had been conned by him. And I thought, here's an opportunity to put a face on this story. And so basically, we chronicle his bilking a bunch of people out of money in this apartment complex in which Caroline lived and sort of how they all put together what he was doing. And then Caroline decided, like you sort of read in the summary, that she was not going to be a victim and that she was going to take the fight to him and that she was going to bring justice to him. And so it's a story that is gripping because it's true crime, and we're all interested in true crime, but it also is empowering. And that's why it's one that I'm happy to bring to life and that I think people are going to be super interested in hearing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now, you're producing this podcast, correct?

[Denise Richards]

Right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So Once Upon a Time features exclusive interviews with Bloom's victims, including survivors from his earlier multimillion dollar bus in Manhattan in the 80s and the 90s. Like you said, uncovering his long trail of fraud across Hollywood and Manhattan and delivering shocking revelations about his tactics. Now in episode one, I listened to, like I said early this morning, touches on Caroline's upbringing. The death of her mother, her TV career, drug addiction, famous friends like the Kardashians, Paris Hilton. I mean, this is packed full of interesting information and the scary encounter she had with Jeffrey, Jeffrey Epstein at only 17 years old. And also covers how she met David Blume during COVID at her apartment building.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah, and I, and I think what's. So this is a very Hollywood story, obviously, and, you know, which you just touched on. But what I like about this too is Caroline is of Hollywood, but always had been looking for her big break. So I worked with her on the Hills, and she was known for a number of different things, was like, friend of Paris Hilton, the whole thing. And when she was really vulnerable, and this was during the pandemic, and this was coming off of being on the Hills and a divorce, this asshole took advantage of her. And so she. Right. When she was, you know, sort of most susceptible to someone offering up an edge and to connect her to powerful people so that her business would break through, then he took money from her, and she did not have any money at that time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And a single mom as well, right?

[Denise Richards]

Single mom, exactly. So, you know, taking care of her little girl. And that's why I thought it was a story that needs to be told. And I think if we can bring any awareness to this, I think that's great. And these are not infrequent stories. There are cons out there. A lot of victims don't come forward because there's a shame associated with it because we like to think of ourselves as smart people who have for this. And so this happens. And so that's sort of where I thought, you know, it's also an important story to, to tell because I think it takes the stigma out of having been conned. And I think it's important that we talk about these things. And then I just think it's an interesting story because cons are so twisted, you know, and, and, and so I always think, like, when people do things like this, why not Just apply, you know, all of that zealous, all. All of that zealousness, you know, and. And sort of that passion toward doing something that is legitimate. But the truth is cons, con, like that is what they do. So they don't do that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Have they made a series about him yet?

[Denise Richards]

He's been featured in, I think, a bunch of one offs and anthologies, so I don't know that there's a full series about him. I find him really interesting is he's been doing it his entire life and he grew up relatively well off. So he grew up in Manhattan. He went to Duke. Like, this is not a guy who had to turn to a life of crime. He chose to turn to a life of crime.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What is wrong with people? I feel like you hear more nowadays that people are just turning to crime.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. And I think people can justify all sorts of things to themselves. But he was very blatant about it and he had his certain go to stories. And again, he did this to an entire apartment building full of people. You also hear in this exclusive confrontations between Caroline and him. And so she recorded a lot of their exchanges where she calls him out and then she present tapes to the da he has been charged, so that's the good thing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And is he in jail right now?

[Denise Richards]

He is. And we're waiting for resolution of the case. And the DA takes this really seriously, which is. Which is great. And you know, so hopefully that's a deterrent to other people who do this. But. Yeah, no, I think that. I think people are going to be super interested in hearing the story. And again, it isn't just sad. There is a part of it that is empowering because Caroline becomes a crusader in a way that I think is pretty inspiring.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And she has a co host on the podcast. I'm not quite sure who that is.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah, it's her friend. So it's her longtime friend. And so she sort of bounces all of this off of him. And he was supportive of her as she was going through this, you know, so that she wasn't. She wasn't alone during all of this. And look, she's doing really well on the other side of this. And so, you know, this con took advantage of her interest in getting her line of products in Whole Foods at all. And he sort of faked that he had a Whole Foods connection. He actually impersonated an executive from Whole Foods. And now we've come full circle and she actually is in Whole Foods, has a Real business and doing is doing well. So the point is, like, there can be life on the other side.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I'm glad. I was going to ask you, how is she doing now after this? Because this wasn't that long ago.

[Denise Richards]

No, it was only a couple years ago. She was really down in the dumps and she was going to go in one of two directions. This was either going to be the thing that broke her or the thing that she used as fuel to achieve everything that she wanted to. And she went the latter direction. And so I think that's the takeaway. I think that's possible. Not that it's easy. Some people are completely devastated by this and, and frankly just don't have any money left. So there's that, you know, But I think the point is, like, we have to take the, the fight to the, the wrongdoers and not let them ultimately win.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she doesn't seem like a girl that's just going to sit down and let this happen to her. She's very outspoken. I like her line in her second episode in the podcast, if you live in hope, you die in shit.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, he definitely took this to the wrong person. You know, she's not the person that, that you want to con because she's smart, capable, resourceful, resilient, and, and so ultimately she drew from those qualities and got her revenge in the best possible way.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So we're excited and I know Teddy's going to be super excited because true crime is like her passion.

[Denise Richards]

I hope people listen to it and love it and, you know, like I said, learn something from it potentially. And let's not let the assholes win.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, let's get into a few other things.

[Denise Richards]

Let's do it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Let's do it. Mr. Housewife. I feel like you probably can make a true crime podcast about some housewives as well.

[Denise Richards]

I have no idea what you mean.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is there anyone in particular?

[Denise Richards]

Well, I think, I think that obviously, like, our world in general is littered with these like, so crazy, you can't believe them stories. And I think that's the, the, the, you know, the power of non fiction, right, is the crazy stuff that happens and so it's happening all over the place.

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[Denise Richards]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So, Housewives, let's get back. Do you ever. Does it ever get exhausting being a producer of Housewives?

[Denise Richards]

Yes, and it's. And I think the. The challenging thing is, like, when it's not exhausting, sometimes that means that there's nothing happening and it's boring. But, yeah, it does. You know, I've always said I recognize how difficult it is to be on the show. And, you know, you've been on the show longer than anyone and longest running Housewife. And we got together a couple weeks ago, we were talking about this, and this was on the eve of season 19. And one of the things we were talking about is it isn't easier with every successive season. It's actually harder. And it's the same thing in making the show. It's a taxing show to do.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. I mean, I had a very lovely season. Thank you very much. Who would you say? How many Housewife calls do you get a day?

[Denise Richards]

I would say that it varies. And I'm better over the years of, like, I'm not the first person that everyone calls where I used to be, so I still get a number of them, but a lot of them are calls from the producers that have been talking to the Housewives or the Vanderpump cast or the Valley cast or whatever else. So I'm sort of. Usually I'm the second call, not the first call these days, by and large.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You'Re all, thank God. Right?

[Denise Richards]

Oh, God. Anything I can do to, you know, to, like, screen them out, it's great for my life.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. We're. Me and Teddy are actually how we Have a. Like, a flashback podcast for old housewife shows. And we just finished season three, I think it was, of OC which was my first season. I'm like, oh, my God, this is so painful to watch. I keep thinking, like, why did they bring me back? Like, I am like, what. What did you see in me?

[Denise Richards]

You changed the game, my friend. So I really. I think that the first two seasons, I don't even know that it was a very different show. And so it started as this, like, slice of suburban life, and the women didn't cross paths all that much. You know, it was, like, a big deal when, like, Gina and Joe would get together. It was like, oh, wow, they exist in the same dimension, you know? And then the show became about the relationships between the women, and it got louder, you know, And I think, really starting with season three, which just coincidentally happens to be your first season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So it's what one season. Wonder deserves a second chance. Kimberly Quinn, Peggy Tanos, Lizzie. Peggy Shalahian, the 100th housewife. Elizabeth Vargas. Noella or Dr. Jen.

[Denise Richards]

I'm gonna have to go with Elizabeth Vargas. I think that doing the. Having her first season in Covid was a challenge, and so. And I think we were in a transitional time. And as you know, we didn't have you on the show at that point.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Remind me.

[Denise Richards]

So that was just. That was. But I felt like you were on the show because I would just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She tried to replace me. Alex. You tried to replace me.

[Denise Richards]

You're one of a kind, it turns out. But I think that was, I think, a tough season to join because we started. Was transitional. You weren't a part of it. We were. We started to film, and then we had to stop down for Covid. And so I just think it was disjointed. So I'm not sure that was an entirely. But, you know, fair run for her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, for sure. And now looking back, do you wish she would have just put it on pause for one year.

[Denise Richards]

Maybe? Yeah, I hadn't even, like, thought about that, but. But I think that's possible. I think we did the best that we could, and I think the. The production worked, you know, really hard under the circumstances, but I. It was not really conducive to making the show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. I talked to Elizabeth on social media, and she's always so sweet, so supportive, so kind. I really like her. Now next season will be season 20. 20 years of Housewives. Like, who would have ever thought. Do you think that the network will have any, like, special plans? Bring back like all the oldies and just go for it.

[Denise Richards]

Well, I don't know that the show itself would change too much because I don't think you want to be too self conscious and I don't think you want to, you know, be. I think you have to, you know, sort of stick to documenting the reality. But I imagine that there'll be a celebration of 20 years because very few shows ever get 20 seasons and I can't think of any in the genre. I know the Real World ran for a long time, but that was different because it was a different cast every season. I think this is, you know, I would say unprecedented without overusing that. That term. And so I think that that that'll be, you know, memorialized and celebrated.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel like Housewives is a very well oiled machine at this point and I feel like it could just keep going. Obviously. Yeah, I'm not going to be, you know, throwing blows and insults at 60.

[Denise Richards]

I don't know about that. I could see you for. I could see you making it to season 40, you know, or even 60.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Then you have to rename it the Golden Girls.

[Denise Richards]

Maybe in the nursing home. I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, that's a. That's a thought. Are you going to miss Alexis this season?

[Denise Richards]

Yeah, I thought, you know, look, obviously it was a very tough season for Alexis and she took a lot of blows and she wasn't well received and that was really hard for her. But, but I think that, you know, she added a lot to the show. Regardless of what people think of her, she certainly had a memorable turn this past season. And so I appreciate anyone who does the show and just sort of, you know, lets it all kind of hang out. And she did that. So I do appreciate it. I think that even for her greatest detractors, I think they'd have to say the season was more interesting because she was a part of it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It would be a totally different season if Alexis was not on it.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure other things would have happened and would have popped up and obviously it was hard to see how hurtful it was to Shannon. But at the same time, there's a reason that the audience, you know, enjoyed watching the season and it was really well received. And part of that means not everyone is going to be well liked.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, Alex, you keep reminding me. I got fired. Not everybody's well liked. What's next? You going to give me. You're going to fire me now?

[Denise Richards]

Well, I don't know. Let's see.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

And what are we drinking today?

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now let's move on to your other new show. Yeah, Denise Richards and her wild things. Now, what can we expect from this show? Are we gonna see Charlie?

[Denise Richards]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Denise Richards]

So, which is great. So you see him get together for a meal with Denise and Lola, one of their daughters, and it's really fun. I like the fact that it's a blend of comedy and drama and so it's not one of those over the top reality sitcoms. So, you know, it is, it's completely real, but it's through the wacky lens of Denise Richards.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And wacky is a good word to use when it comes to Denise because I was dying laughing when she, one of the daughters said something like, you're such a bitch, dude. And she's like, don't call your sister dude. I'm like, oh, my God.

[Denise Richards]

It's the wit and wisdom of Denise. And so she really is, she's been very strong and resilient, not just to survive in Hollywood all of this time and to continually remake herself, but also to have gone through that very public marriage and divorce and, and now this is, you know, sort of her on the other side of it. And it's her daughters as young adults. And, you know, sort of the way we frame it is, you know, she's now faces the greatest challenge she ever has in her entire life, you know, which is, which is them. And so I think it's kind of fun. We couldn't be more excited that it's on Bravo, which I think is fun. I think it has shades of early days Kardashians again with sort of, you know, the Denise Richards gloss on it. There's a ton of cameos. So there's appearances from everyone from Hathi Hilton to Garcelle and Sutton to Camille Grammer to Charlie, like and Erica and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Charlie's Charlie's ex wife as well.

[Denise Richards]

In kids, Brooke Mueller and, and, and their kids, you know, who Denise has been very involved with. She's a she's a nurturer and a, and a caretaker.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She is. She's like really big into animals and she's a very lovey person. Can't. When does it air?

[Denise Richards]

March 4th.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

March 4th. Okay.

[Denise Richards]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Any update on Vanderpump Rules?

[Denise Richards]

We are, we're getting set. We're. We're really excited about it. We are not endeavoring to make the same show we made before. So it's a new group, all of whom are very interconnected and live together, work together, kind of figuring things out together, which is, you know, really the, the premise of the original Vanderpump Rules, but this is a different expression of it and it's a lot of fun. And, and so we're trying to sort of embrace what was great about the original, but I don't really consider it a reboot. I think, you know, that's, that's sort of the word that's thrown around. My view is it's just a, it's a brand new group that work at the restaurant. And so, you know, it's a new series that carries on the legacy of the original.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can you give us any update? Is there any former Band of Pump Rules cast members that will potentially get a spin off?

[Denise Richards]

Well, I think all things are possible. I, you know, there's nothing to announce, obviously. We did that successfully on the Valley. And that second season is insane, by the way. So very excited about that. But that's what I would say. I mean, you know, obviously, you know, look, the, the, the Bravo universe is strong, you know, and, and sort of, as Denise proves out as well, there's always an appetite to, to revisit the lives of the people who inhabit it. And so, you know, all things are possible.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And how about the Valley? Any teaser?

[Denise Richards]

The only thing I can say is you will be absolutely gripped from the first minute. And it never lets off. And it is the craziest season two of any show I've ever made a positive sense. It is fast paced. It is fascinating. It's relentless. It's the story behind some of the headlines that you've read. And then I'm glad things haven't leaked, you know, but like, I'm not over promising it is. It's that good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What's the air date on that?

[Denise Richards]

It's soon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, so it's not announced yet, so. Well, great. So Teddy and I are going to recap that as well.

[Denise Richards]

Oh, you're going to. I can't wait to hear your recaps.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You guys are so super excited about that. But, yeah, that's all I have for you, Alex. Is there anything else you want to plug or tell us about?

[Denise Richards]

No. I thank you for. For highlighting Once upon a con. I really appreciate it. It's a project that means a. And then mostly I just want you to get to work.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, I got 30 minutes and actually I got 25 minutes until the camera crews get hair. So.

[Denise Richards]

Yes. You better get going.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I better get going. All right. Well, it was nice to see your face.

[Denise Richards]

Thank you. Bye.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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