The Twot Seat: DOLORES CATANIA (RHONJ & Traitors)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: The Twot Seat: DOLORES CATANIA (RHONJ & Traitors)
Release Date: March 8, 2025

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Introduction

In this captivating episode of Two Ts In A Pod, hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge welcome Dolores Catania, a familiar face from The Real Housewives of New Jersey (RHONJ), who recently emerged victorious on the competitive reality show The Traitors. This special episode delves deep into Dolores's journey, her strategic maneuvers on The Traitors, and the emotional aftermath of her win.

Dolores Catania's Victory: Experience and Emotions

The episode kicks off with Tamra exuberantly announcing Dolores's win:

Tamra Judge [03:16]: "Oh, my God. You won. You fucking won."

Dolores shares her elation and relief upon winning, highlighting a sense of accomplishment she rarely feels:

Dolores Catania [03:25]: "What do you think? It feels really good. Since, like, I don't ever feel like I win anything, but..."

Navigating The Traitors: Key Moments and Interactions

Dolores recounts her time on The Traitors, emphasizing the challenges and alliances formed:

Dolores Catania [08:22]: "Sam Ashkari, gentleman, Absolute gentleman."

She praises her fellow contestants, particularly noting the kindness of individuals like Dylan and Gabby, while candidly discussing the less favorable interactions with others, such as Tom Sandoval and Sandoval.

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the dynamics of voting and betrayal within the game. Dolores expresses frustration with certain strategies employed by other players:

Dolores Catania [17:24]: "Listen, that's a stupid fucking traitor move. Traitors. You're supposed to be gamers, okay? Why are you killing people that don't know how to play the game?"

Strategy and Alliances: The Role of Traitors and Faithful

Dolores delves into the intricate strategies of The Traitors, distinguishing between traitors and the faithful participants. She emphasizes the importance of maintaining integrity and avoiding deceitful tactics:

Dolores Catania [23:07]: "You don't have to play like that to win. That's what we proved. You don't have to lose your soul..."

Tamra adds her observations on strategic eliminations and the impact of social media influence:

Tamra Judge [18:02]: "Not to mention the Housewives probably have more following on Instagram than anybody there. So we can promote the show better than anyone."

Comparing 'The Traitors' and RHONJ

The hosts and Dolores draw parallels between the competitive nature of The Traitors and the drama inherent in RHONJ. They discuss how different environments and strategies influence participant behavior and outcomes.

Tamra Judge [20:26]: "That's insane. That's double me."

Behind the Scenes: Reunion and Aftermath

Dolores shares insightful moments from the reunion, addressing conflicts and resolutions:

Dolores Catania [37:12]: "I will not vote for you because you said that. And I, I can't."

She candidly discusses the emotional toll of participating in the show and the support she received post-win:

Tamra Judge [41:39]: "It's different."

Dolores Catania [41:44]: "Bravo fans, fuck your family and fuck your mother. Yes."

Lifestyle and Personal Insights

Beyond the screens, the conversation shifts to personal lives and routines. Tamra speaks about her structured daily routine, while Dolores contrasts it with her more spontaneous lifestyle:

Tamra Judge [32:10]: "I very much have a routine. I'm very much a homebody."

Dolores Catania [32:33]: "I get my son. I relax, do a little shopping, maybe a spa day, and I'm good."

They also share light-hearted moments, discussing favorite beverages and daily habits, adding a relatable touch to the episode.

Conclusion: Reflections and Future Topics

As the episode wraps up, Dolores reflects on her growth and the lessons learned from participating in The Traitors. Tamra expresses her admiration and support, hinting at future discussions and potential guest appearances.

Tamra Judge [42:25]: "Let's talk about on the pod next week."

Dolores Catania [42:26]: "I'm gonna wait on that."

The hosts close with heartfelt congratulations to Dolores, celebrating her achievements and looking forward to more engaging conversations in upcoming episodes.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tamra Judge [03:16]: "Oh, my God. You won. You fucking won."
• Dolores Catania [17:24]: "Listen, that's a stupid fucking traitor move. Traitors. You're supposed to be gamers, okay?"
• Tamra Judge [18:02]: "Not to mention the Housewives probably have more following on Instagram than anybody there."
• Dolores Catania [23:07]: "You don't have to play like that to win. That's what we proved. You don't have to lose your soul..."
• Dolores Catania [37:12]: "I will not vote for you because you said that. And I, I can't."
• Dolores Catania [41:44]: "Bravo fans, fuck your family and fuck your mother. Yes."

Final Thoughts

This episode of Two Ts In A Pod offers an in-depth look into the competitive and emotional landscape of The Traitors through the lens of a seasoned reality television star. Dolores Catania's candid revelations and strategic insights provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of what it takes to navigate such high-stakes reality competitions. Whether you're a fan of RHONJ, The Traitors, or interested in the dynamics of reality TV, this episode delivers engaging content that resonates beyond the screen.

Transcript

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[Dolores Catania]

Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hey guys. Welcome to a special episode of the Tuatsi. Today we have the winner. One of the winners of Traders Dolores. Our girl did it. Like Dolores, I'm like I am so excited to talk to her about this because you know what? As close as we are, she didn't give it away. She did not. You know Dolores just kind of has it all on Jersey. She has Been. She won Traders first Housewife, so she super excited to bring her in and talk about her time on Traders, and if there's any little tidbit she can tell us. Dolores.

[Dolores Catania]

Hi.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi. Oh, my God. You won. You fucking won.

[Dolores Catania]

I did. Thank you.

[Tamara Judge]

How does it feel?

[Dolores Catania]

What do you think? It feels really good. Since, like, I don't ever feel like I win anything, but.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, Well, I kind of felt it in my gut that you won.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you?

[Tamara Judge]

I was psychic there, my little. Yeah, yeah, I felt it that you did win.

[Dolores Catania]

And.

[Tamara Judge]

And I'm telling you, like I said, when I did the intro, you never said a word. Not a word. And I'm like, she won. I just. I. I could feel it. She won.

[Dolores Catania]

You know why? I'm. I. I'm a vault.

[Tamara Judge]

You are a vault. You're winning at life.

[Dolores Catania]

I just. It's in me. And, you know, the leaks destroyed our show.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't notice the leaks. Maybe I just didn't pay attention.

[Dolores Catania]

No, not this show. Housewives of New Jersey.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, those.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, the leaks. I. I hate leaks. And, you know, why ruin it for someone?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's why I never understood that, like, you know, when you leak the show, it just takes away from your show, so why would you do that?

[Dolores Catania]

So Jersey's always had that problem.

[Tamara Judge]

We had a leak already.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, you did?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we had a leak already. We had a leak already. And it's. It really takes away from the show.

[Dolores Catania]

And it takes away from your hard work. All the produce just takes away from it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. No, I agree. But, yes. It was so great to see that you.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you like it?

[Tamara Judge]

Hold.

[Dolores Catania]

I. I can't see you. I have to put my glasses on.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, you put.

[Tamara Judge]

I put your. Mine on too.

[Dolores Catania]

You look so sexy.

[Tamara Judge]

I haven't even had a shower today.

[Dolores Catania]

You do. No, you look good dirty.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I know. I see dirt. A little dirt doesn't hurt.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Never heard.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I. We're having work done in the house, and they turn the water off, and then I just forgot about taking a shower. I did brush my teeth, though, so.

[Dolores Catania]

That we have to do. Yeah, I do that before I even pick up the phone.

[Tamara Judge]

Really? You're good at that.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So. Oh, my. I'm just so excited that you won. I am so happy for you. This is.

[Dolores Catania]

I can tell that you are. It's really nice to see somebody that's happy for me.

[Tamara Judge]

I am.

[Dolores Catania]

I am.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, this is the first housewife in three seasons, has actually made it all the way to the end. And you Guys stuck together. Nobody tried to fuck anybody. It's not like, you know, the season I was on, like, MJ got screwed. Like, nobody.

[Dolores Catania]

That was disgusting. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Nobody wanted to share the pot. They're like, it's all for me. And you guys were like, you know what? We're so happy that we ended together where you guys believe that you were all faithful together. Let's share this pot and call it a day.

[Dolores Catania]

And that's. That was such a good feeling. And, you know, I forgot what it's like to film something. We were excited. I came home, I felt really accomplished, and I was proud of myself. And then, you know, it's so long before it airs, and then it's so long before the season's over and you get to the finale and then you relive it again. So good or bad, you relive it. Right. Like, when you're going to watch your show, you're going to be in a bad mood.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Now, were you. Were you nervous that any of them were traitors?

[Dolores Catania]

I. In that moment, I could see my face, and I'm. I. I kind of was. I was like. But I was at the point where. Let the cards fall, where it is. Like, yes, I'm done. I've been here over a month.

[Tamara Judge]

You're, like, there for four weeks, and then it's like you're at the. The. The tail end of it, and you're like, just.

[Dolores Catania]

Can I just listen? Either way, I'm tired.

[Tamara Judge]

Either way, I want to go home. I want to go home.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm tired of fighting. I want spaghetti and meatballs, Right. I want to see my family. I want to go home now.

[Tamara Judge]

After the. After, you know, find out who wins and it's over with. When did you actually get to go home?

[Dolores Catania]

Because you got to do press.

[Tamara Judge]

You got to do press, right? I had to do press. I had to do a podcast press.

[Dolores Catania]

We had to do Mavs and things like that. So the next day, we did whatever we did, and. And then we. I left and went to a hotel by. Where I was flying out of because it was three hours away.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So you. You had to stay an extra day.

[Dolores Catania]

I stayed an extra day.

[Tamara Judge]

So what are some of the greatest friendships you built on the show?

[Dolores Catania]

Dylan? He's such a nice kid. He's just a good human being. What a really good person, I have to say. And then I like Gabby. Chrishell was beautiful. Chrishell is so nice. She really is. I really have to say. Everybody, Sam Ashkari, gentleman, Absolute gentleman.

[Tamara Judge]

He's very Hot.

[Dolores Catania]

What did Bob Harper call him? Wall of Man.

[Tamara Judge]

He's just a beautiful man.

[Dolores Catania]

He's just a beautiful man. But a good past. His looks. Yeah, he's so nice. He's a gentleman.

[Tamara Judge]

He didn't talk much, but he did.

[Dolores Catania]

And then they killed him as soon as he opened his mouth. He got sent home.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. What about Sandoval? Where do you stand with Sandoval?

[Dolores Catania]

I, you know, he's not a mean person. He does stupid things. I think, you know, what you didn't see. And this is why I was so angry, and this is why I had to vote for him. He probably took 15 minutes at one roundtable to try to convince everybody to vote me out. So me and him went at it. You didn't see that. So people have to understand that I just didn't feel like voting for him every night because I felt like it. He was spending his days and a lot of wasted time at the roundtable trying to convince people that I was a traitor to cover for Carolyn. He knew Carolyn was a traitor. There was only a few roundtables left. He knew Carolyn was a traitor, but she had a little crushy on him.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, we hear about that at the reunion. What we also hear about the reunion was Andy laid it on really thick when it came to Tom. Oh, my God, Tom. People are saying, like, I love to see Tom in this light, and I want to see him on my TV all the time. And I'm looking at and going, what are you talking about, Andy? Nobody wants to see him. And all I can think. And all I can think about is, is he getting a new show?

[Dolores Catania]

No, no, listen, it wasn't that good. And I wish for him. I'm sure we all need jobs, but I'm not taking that away. But I'm just saying, like, he thought he was great. Like, his confess, his last confessional was like, I was so good at the game and I was so great. To work with everybody else is like, it was a great experience. I made friends here. And all Tom could talk about what is was himself. It was hysterical.

[Tamara Judge]

It was hysterical. It was actually horrible. It was horrible to listen to him say. I mean, it was very narcissistic for him to be like, you know, God, I just proved so good. So good. I'm so good.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, a lor Anita. But no, like, oh, my God. The best was when he was singing. He actually asked to lube up his throat. He asked for if anyone had a lozenger. He was practicing singing with the Dolls. It was. But it was something all the time. It was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm like, no, dude, stop.

[Dolores Catania]

And then he would sing louder when we couldn't understand him on the other end.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, going into the show, did you ever expect that you'd be one of the winners?

[Dolores Catania]

Never. Every day. It was one day at a time there. So every day was like survival. But then, I'll tell you this, it got very eerie at the end when the castle's full. You start with 23 people and then it gets less, and then it gets less and then it's visibly almost vacant. And you're walking from room to room looking at your friends. And I thought to myself, this must be what it feels like when you get older. Like you're in your. When you're elderly and all your friends are gone.

[Tamara Judge]

Like me, right now, I'm home alone.

[Dolores Catania]

No, I'm like, alone. God bless. That's so nice. I'm so happy for you.

[Tamara Judge]

I know Eddie's out of town. My daughter's in San Diego. I'm home alone with Rugby the dog.

[Dolores Catania]

And I'm like, I love rugby. Rugby is my looking.

[Tamara Judge]

We're looking for to rescue another rugby.

[Dolores Catania]

There's so many. There's so many. But there's only one rugby. But they say they find you, so.

[Tamara Judge]

He found us, that's for sure. But. Oh, my God.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So it was like an eerie feeling.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I never really thought about that. But now thinking about it, just even seeing like the five of you on the round table, however many there was, it was just like, whoa. That's got to be a different feeling.

[Dolores Catania]

It's different and it's not a good feeling.

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[Tamara Judge]

Did you ever go upstairs in the castle?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, we, we did our, our, our confessionals.

[Tamara Judge]

But did you ever, you know how like you walk in and there's all these doors and you open a door? Did you ever open a door and look in?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Well, there's nothing. It's got it.

[Tamara Judge]

There's nothing in it. Nothing in it?

[Dolores Catania]

No. And it's cold. It's cold, old, and it's drafty.

[Tamara Judge]

When I was there, this. I opened up a door and the ceiling was falling through.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So lots of construction upstairs.

[Dolores Catania]

Ivor said that. I said, that's like a 600 year old castle. He said, no, it's only 200 years old. Which is young for something in Europe, I guess.

[Tamara Judge]

I hear that there's a Greek couple that owned that castle.

[Dolores Catania]

That bought it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that bought it. Yeah. Yeah. Now did. Did you guys get glam this year at all?

[Dolores Catania]

No. You were in the way.

[Tamara Judge]

No way, right? No way.

[Dolores Catania]

Did I look like I got glam? Did you see what I looked like? I look like I should be cleaning the castle.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Chrishell had like little rhinestones on her face.

[Dolores Catania]

She's a little Barbie doll. She's a Barbie doll. She is so cute.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you ever take it personally that you were going after that? They were going after Housewives so hard.

[Dolores Catania]

I did.

[Tamara Judge]

So Andy brought that up at the reunion. Like, why do you go after the housewives?

[Dolores Catania]

Listen, that's a stupid fucking traitor move. Traitors. You're supposed to be gamers, okay? Why are you killing people that don't know how to play the game? Use them for shields at the round table. And I think, don't waste a murder on them. Don't waste a murder on a housewife. We're not gamers. We don't know how to play. Try to get people to turn on us because everyone thinks we're part, like we're. We're a trader. So why didn't use that? I'm sorry, I'm not a gamer, but I think I would have done been a better trader.

[Tamara Judge]

And not to mention the Housewives probably have more following on Instagram than anybody there. So we can promote the show better than anyone.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes, we can. But not Nikki Bella. Nikki Bella's got like 15 million.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I know, right? She's got like a crazy following. Crazy. Now you had mentioned that Carolyn has the biggest, like, was it cameo?

[Dolores Catania]

Like she's number seven in the world. Look on your cameo.

[Tamara Judge]

How much do you think she makes?

[Dolores Catania]

She lives off it. She does cameos all day long.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I didn't know who she was until she was on the show.

[Dolores Catania]

But I don't think she charges a lot.

[Tamara Judge]

$199.

[Dolores Catania]

Since when? They told me that she. She. They told me it was like, cheaper.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, no. Now she's up to 200 bucks a cameo.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay, good for her. But I wonder how long it's been like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe she's upped it since the show.

[Dolores Catania]

I feel like that happened.

[Tamara Judge]

So when I had mine up higher, I got less. Now I put mine down to like $100. And I get them all the time. All the time. But I. I didn't even know who she was. It just goes to show how I didn't either.

[Dolores Catania]

There's a whole. We are the. A pimple on the ass of humanity, by the way. We are a big. Not a big deal.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I. I thought we were the. But we're obviously not.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, I knew we're not for a long time. I actually said it. I actually said it on the episode this week. I mean, the last time I was talking to one of the girls and I said, you. There's a whole world outside of this. We are not a big deal.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, I know.

[Dolores Catania]

It's hard to think of that, though, since it consumes us all the time.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it's been 17 years since I started Housewives.

[Dolores Catania]

That's ins. Tamara.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

That's insane. That's double me.

[Tamara Judge]

That's cr. I mean, it's crazy. It's like, it's. It's crazy. I know.

[Dolores Catania]

What was. What was your worst year?

[Tamara Judge]

1, 2, 3, 4. In our show. Like, if I was in your show, if I was on Salt Lake City, I would very much blend in. But our show is different. You say one thing and it's like. Like I'm gonna cry. Don't say that.

[Dolores Catania]

You're hurting. You know, and that wouldn't happen on Earth, like, halfway, like, prob. 75% of what you say wouldn't even be.

[Tamara Judge]

No. And. And quite honestly, I don't get offended. I don't give a. What people say. Like, I. I can fight right back. And our show, it's like, don't do that. You hurt my feelings. I gotta sue you. Like, so it's like it. You know, it's. It's tough, but whatever. But let's get back to Traders. As Andy said at the reunion, you voted wrong 8 out of 10 times on traders. But then you still won.

[Dolores Catania]

But I still won. And you know what? You're only as good as your last vote.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, the. Obviously the Traders had you confused, which I totally understand. Was it their elimination strategy that confused you the most?

[Dolores Catania]

It was so one thing. Danielle sworn her kids to me. And as you. I'm a religious person.

[Tamara Judge]

I was going to ask you about that.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay, so Danielle cleared it up. She vindicated me at the reunion on why I didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

Why.

[Dolores Catania]

Why vote for her?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but why did she swear on.

[Dolores Catania]

Her grandkids and lie? She lied. So what happened was this is. We were all sitting around and I said, listen, I swear. I swear on everything. I swear on my kids, I swear my job, I am a faithful. And she volunteered to lie. But that's what they do. But in my world, that's bad.

[Tamara Judge]

That's a bad energy. Like, that's like.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I don't think God would hurt kids or her grandchildren. But I do think that you have to have a conscience. Yeah, the gamers don't have any type of conscience. Like, the thing that got me at the reunion was Boston Rob said, I'll take a kid like Dylan who looks up to me, who has watched me his whole life, I'll bring him through a game and I'll stab him in the back at the end. I thought that makes me actually physically sick, the thought of that. Like, and then you'll find some yoke of a kid who'll be like, yeah, getting killed by Bob. Boston Rob is like an honor. Like, I'm not there yet. I'm not a gamer.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not. Yeah, no, like, no, but I, but.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, you don't have to play like that to win. That's what you can. That's what we, we proved. You don't have to lose your soul, Danielle, to be a good trader. Because Carolyn didn't. Carolyn played, right.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I just didn't know how to fight.

[Tamara Judge]

I find it rough. You said, I swear, my kids or my. Whatever it was, but you were being honest. She sworn her grandchildren and she was lying. So to me, that's. I don't like.

[Dolores Catania]

That's why I said to her, I don't like that. I will not vote for you because you said that. And I, I can't. She's like, I did what I had to do. But you didn't win. Was it worth it?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I don't like it. But if, okay, so if the traitors would have tried to recruit you, which I thought they were going to. I really thought you were going to get recruited last minute. Would you.

[Dolores Catania]

Worst recruitment ever. By the way, you do know Brittany stabbed Danielle in the back big time. In another show before they got there. There was bad.

[Tamara Judge]

Stabbed her in the back twice.

[Dolores Catania]

So, yeah. And I said to Dan, you know, you deserved it. You recruited someone who stabbed you in the back. Who does that? Gabby would have been an amazing pick. Dylan would have been the top Pick. He had Ivor following him around like a puppy dog. He had me, who trusted him because he was so kind to me. There's no way I don't even think I could have brought myself to vote for him out of loyalty because he was so nice to me. Unlike Tom Sandoval, he just gives up, like good energy.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I'm very interested in his personal life. He did just announce that he has a girlfriend.

[Dolores Catania]

She's sweet.

[Tamara Judge]

I met her since like high school or something like that.

[Dolores Catania]

Does that surprise? Well, after you speak to him, you'll understand.

[Tamara Judge]

And he lives in a van?

[Dolores Catania]

No, he got a three bedroom apartment now. He had a one bedroom apartment. But he lives. He likes the land, he likes to be outside. He's an explorer.

[Tamara Judge]

I like that.

[Dolores Catania]

He's like just so simple. He's a simple guy.

[Tamara Judge]

But you know what? Zach's kind of like that too. I've watched his show where he's out there just like living on the earth and, you know, talking about global warming and all these things. So it must have been something that they were raised that way.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know if the. Well, he could tell you. He could tell you all that, but he like being in the castle. He said that he was affected by the weather. There was no sunshine, it rained all the time. When he got home, he just wanted to be outside. Like, he just wanted to be in the sun. He just ran in the Pacific Ocean and went for a swim.

[Tamara Judge]

That's how my husband is. He would be like that if I would allow him. Like he said to me yesterday, he goes, when was the last time you went outside barefoot and stood in the grass? I'm like, why are you asking?

[Dolores Catania]

Never.

[Tamara Judge]

I go, never. He goes, you need to go. Just like stand outside and take in 15 minutes of sun. Plant your feet on the ground. And I'm like, okay, sure, I'll do that.

[Dolores Catania]

You guys are so alike. Oh my God. Compatibility is off the charts.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

I'm literally doing this right now. It's CoffeeMate.com Coldfoam My Drink. Yes.

[Dolores Catania]

Nailed it.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

Now. If you were asked to go on Traders again, would you.

[Dolores Catania]

If you asked me that last week, when I felt like a total asshole for not voting for Danielle, and I felt stupid that even my kids called me and yelled at me. Meanwhile, I didn't vote for her because I love them so much that I trusted somebody that sworn their children like, shut up, Gabby, my daughter. So they're like, what are you doing, Ma? So would I go on Traders again? Yeah. Especially now, because it all ended the way it should have. And I'm happy and I feel great. I loved Scotland. But then, you know, it's so funny. We were playing, like, when we were. They did this Traders experience. I don't know if you did it.

[Tamara Judge]

I did it.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

In la. Yep.

[Dolores Catania]

And I didn't want to play for three minutes. I am looks at me, she goes, I'm so over this.

[Tamara Judge]

We actually played. Eddie went with me. I was the. You do the whole mock thing of the show, and they made me the traitor. And I actually convinced everybody that Eddie was the traitor. And he's like, I'm not the traitor. He's like, I'm not the traitor. And I'm like, no. And everybody voted for him, and I was the traitor.

[Dolores Catania]

You would have been an amazing traitor.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I think for me, just going into the show, it was kind of confusing to me. I'm like, what. What are we doing? I don't understand what we're doing.

[Dolores Catania]

That's why. Don't kill the housewives now.

[Tamara Judge]

We don't know what's going on, people. We're not. Where our minds don't work like gamers. Like, we don't.

[Dolores Catania]

And that's what Carolyn tried to say. Carolyn. When they were picking off the housewives, Carolyn was like, they're not. Why? Why are you going after all the housewives? And. And when I did say to Carolyn, I feel so stupid, you know, I didn't vote for Danielle. I feel stupid. She goes, you're not supposed to. You're not a gamer. You don't think like we do. I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, guys, like, I do now.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm a gamer. I won. Would you go back?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I probably would go back for.

[Dolores Catania]

The faint of heart. I'll tell you.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm. I'm like, do you know what the hardest part for me was? Well, I obviously, I was super sick when I went, but I'm very into my routine. I like to wake up in the morning and have my coffee and go to the gym and then get on my podcast and When I'm out of routine for more than a few days, I don't like it. I don't like it.

[Dolores Catania]

Really. See, if I like a routine, I would miss it. I don't have a routine.

[Tamara Judge]

I very much have a routine. I'm very much a homebody.

[Dolores Catania]

Past my coffee, Paul's like, what's your plan? I'm like, don't ask me my plans.

[Tamara Judge]

So I'm very stuck in, you know, my normal routine. So taking me out of it and traveling. Even if Eddie and I travel together and we're gone for more than a week, I want to get home. I have to get home.

[Dolores Catania]

Why does anyone go away for more than a week?

[Ashley Echenetti]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, Eddie always wants. He wants to go to school, too. In two weeks, I'm like, four days.

[Dolores Catania]

Four days.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm. Four days is perfect.

[Dolores Catania]

I get my son. I relax, do a little shopping, maybe a spa day, and I'm good. I come home and I'm perfectly fine.

[Tamara Judge]

I gotta ask you something.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Hanging from a helicopter is a big, fat no for me, and I'm a darejackle.

[Dolores Catania]

I loved it. I loved it. I felt like a bird. I felt so free.

[Tamara Judge]

It wasn't scary at all.

[Dolores Catania]

Not at all.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I'm.

[Dolores Catania]

I haven't. You know, I didn't watch it. I hate watching myself. And I was so busy, it expired by the time I got to watch it.

[Tamara Judge]

So. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought dangling from the helicopter looked a little bit scary. Being in the helicopter is one thing, but literally dangling from it, throwing that.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm like, so nice. So good.

[Tamara Judge]

Was there. Was there any being buried? There was no buried alive this season. Huh?

[Dolores Catania]

I hit that take. That takes my breath away. That's where I put. Where I. I draw the line.

[Tamara Judge]

Line.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm not getting in a coffin. I'm not getting buried alive. I'm very claustrophobic.

[Tamara Judge]

Me, too. Me, too. So when I got asked to do it and I said, I'll tell you one thing right now, there is no way in hell I'm being buried alive. It ain't no chance. I don't even like being in elevators.

[Dolores Catania]

No chance.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't do it. So let's. Let's talk about some reunion questions. Who do you think was best dressed? I loved your dress. I am.

[Dolores Catania]

My dress was beautiful.

[Tamara Judge]

Where. Who made your dress?

[Dolores Catania]

I'm gonna tell you her name. Yes, I did. What happened was I just wasn't. I wasn't really into getting dressed for this reunion.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, first of all, your boobs were so big. They were always in your mouth.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't dress like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Your boobs were way up here, remember?

[Dolores Catania]

I don't do that.

[Tamara Judge]

Earlier, you're like, I couldn't breathe. It was like, oh, my God.

[Dolores Catania]

It's not my way. It's not my thing. I didn't like.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you did it. It looked good.

[Dolores Catania]

It looked good. Yeah. So the person that made my dress is Diana Maroc Couture. It was beautiful. He came to my house two days before the reunion.

[Tamara Judge]

How did you find her? How did you find her?

[Dolores Catania]

My Style by Sonica. Sonica is a friend of mine, and she's a stylist. And I called her. I'm like, sonica, I'm. No, I'm calling you late. I need a dress. Can you find me a dress? I don't even know. So I was going to wear a kilt that had, like, a backstory. It was the kilt of world peace, and Gandhi's grandson made it. So we went. Sonica drove all the way to Long island to pick it up from the person's house who owns this kilt. It's a. Like a light blue kilt. And it was way too big on me, and I couldn't. Because it's a historical piece, I couldn't alter it. So poor Sonica, she was so upset. And then she's like, wait, I can do this. And she called this woman, Diana, came to my house, measured me, and showed up the next. Within the next two days with that dress.

[Tamara Judge]

Wow. It was stunning. Stunning.

[Dolores Catania]

So here's the thing, though. The corset was very tight. I don't know how the Housewives of Potomac dress like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Corsets are. They're. They hurt.

[Dolores Catania]

It hurt. But it was beautiful. It was dramatic. It looked amazing. And she had two days to make it.

[Tamara Judge]

How long was the reunion? How many. How many hours?

[Dolores Catania]

Longer than I was told it would be. So I had to probably sit there for five hours like that girl.

[Tamara Judge]

I couldn't do it. What do you think about Jirenda coming for Bob the Drag Queen?

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, I don't think he was affected at all by it, you know.

[Tamara Judge]

He was very unbothered.

[Dolores Catania]

He was so unbothered. They came out hot. They came out both barrels loaded. Dorinda needed to get that off her chest. But what I didn't understand, Dorinda was. He's not the only one that voted for you. He's not.

[Tamara Judge]

There were three people. Yeah, that's true.

[Dolores Catania]

There were three people there.

[Tamara Judge]

Why did she blame him?

[Dolores Catania]

He. He suggested Her. But they followed suit. It took three decisions to. And you know.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

With it.

[Tamara Judge]

She was very upset. I think it was because he said, I didn't know who she was.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, she doesn't like that. She's like, I was sad that I. I was voted out first, but, I mean, I was banished. I was murdered first. But she said what I didn't like was you saying, you don't know who I am. What. And this and that. He's like, I don't watch tv. I don't know anything about you. I don't totally believe that.

[Tamara Judge]

It's just fucking with her.

[Dolores Catania]

But it was. It got her. That got her pissed. Yeah. The housewives made it, you know, a housewife moment. There was a lot of people that needed to get things off their chest and she was one of them.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, you did it. It's.

[Dolores Catania]

Thank you. I'm so excited. It's a really good feeling. It really, really is.

[Tamara Judge]

I. I wouldn't know, but. But I could only imagine one.

[Dolores Catania]

Because it's not easy. It's. Listen, whether I voted 10 people out or I voted two people out, I got up and I went to work every day. I left my family. I worked hard. I gave it 100% every single day. I left everything behind that I know. And I love to go be with a bunch of strangers in a castle in Scotland and the fact that I made it as far as I did, I do not feel any guilt in winning.

[Tamara Judge]

I have a question for you. I don't know if you're going to know it, but as a faithful, you're lucky if you get four to five hours of sleep at night.

[Dolores Catania]

As a traitor.

[Tamara Judge]

As a traitor. Do they sleep at all?

[Dolores Catania]

They hardly sleep. So I think the traitors, by the time they're getting voted out, they're so done. That's a big cross to bear, being a traitor. And they have to stay after. I mean, at the end of the day, I'm exhausted.

[Tamara Judge]

But you don't get to bed till after midnight for sure.

[Dolores Catania]

Every night we're not getting in bed till after midnight. And the traders are staying another two to three hours.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. I can't. No, thank you.

[Dolores Catania]

No, thank you.

[Tamara Judge]

No, thank you. Yeah. That was one of the things that was talked about in the castle. Look at the people that look really tired because that's a dead giveaway that they're a traitor. Because they're lucky if they get three hours of sleep at night.

[Dolores Catania]

And for four weeks, Phaedra's waking up with lashes and a Full face of makeup.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

You can't go by that.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

Chanel was sleeping under the breakfast table. She wasn't a trainer.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm used to, like.

[Dolores Catania]

She was the length of the table, by the way.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Oh, my God. I like my sleep. I like to go to sleep. I get up early, I do my shit. But over there, it's like, get up and sit.

[Dolores Catania]

Not for the faint of heart.

[Tamara Judge]

It is get your. Because you. There's no glam. You're getting your makeup done, you're getting your outfits on. You get to the breakfast room, and then you are lucky if you're done by midnight.

[Dolores Catania]

Lucky, lucky.

[Tamara Judge]

And then you have to unwind. When you go back to the room, you got to. I wrote notes. Did you write notes like, what happened that day? And who did. I did. It didn't help me, but I. I.

[Dolores Catania]

Did write notes on how to get Tom out at one point. Cause he was picking on me so much. He's the only person I ever wrote down and put in my little book. And the next day I went, and I'm like, I'm so ready. I have my speech. And then he was gone.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. Well, congratulations.

[Dolores Catania]

Thank you.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm so happy for you. I'm so glad that you won.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, everyone is so kind, and everyone is congratulating me and being so nice about it, and it's a good feeling, especially after I screwed up like last week, but it's just a nice feeling. And you know, the traitors fans, Tamara, they're civilized.

[Tamara Judge]

They are. It's different.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, you know what I mean? I was ready to lock myself in my house after last week, but you know what? I didn't see one person say I'm stupid or I'm ugly.

[Tamara Judge]

No, it's not like, Bravo fans.

[Dolores Catania]

Bravo fans, fuck your family and fuck your mother. Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Death threat.

[Dolores Catania]

And you should die. And making up stories about nothing.

[Tamara Judge]

Nothing. No Bravo traitor fans.

[Dolores Catania]

I want to tell you. Thank you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, we're all so proud of you. And congratulations. And now you get to rest.

[Dolores Catania]

I am. I had it last night. I had virtual tea. Page six. And I was with, by the way, Kyle and Carl.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh. Any tea?

[Dolores Catania]

No. Kyle was upset. Oh.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, let's talk about on the pod next week.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm gonna wait on that.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

I think you need to have him back.

[Tamara Judge]

He's talking. Oh, let's bring him back.

[Dolores Catania]

I think it's time you brought him back.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, girl. Have a good week.

[Dolores Catania]

Thank you, too.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Dolores Catania]

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